Alabama Papers To Roy Moore: Go Ahead, Sue Us

The company that owns Alabama’s three largest newspapers is openly daring Roy Moore to follow through on his threat to sue them. See their juicy letter below.

The Washington Post reports:

Not content to merely play defense against the threats from Moore, the AMG letter notes that litigation from the Senate candidate would “also reveal other important information about your clients.” In that spirit, it gives notice to Moore & Co. that they are to preserve all “materials, documents, writings, recordings, statements, notes, letters, journals, diaries, calendars, emails, videos, computers, cell phones, electronic data, and other information” related to these matters. Which is to say: Be careful what you wish for, Mr. Moore.

  • Mike Solo

    This is much more interesting than what I’m currently doing by sitting in a conference room learning about how Jaguar tailors the smells of the headliner to different markets. I really hope he sues… will be a brilliant popcorn court case

    I desperately need more coffee before I get a head injury when my forehead hits the desk….

    • Ernest Endevor

      I have no idea what that means but I am convinced by your authoritative tone.

      • Mike Solo

        Its because I have a British accent

        • Gustav2

          Sooooo, Weed in California?

          • Mike Solo

            US is actually more leather, less benzene… and I’m not kidding

          • canoebum

            Liver disease patients everywhere would like to thank Jaguar for the benzene. How thoughtful. Add a few drops of toluene and you’d have a headliner Martini.

          • Mike Solo

            I want a prosecco themed Jag

          • canoebum

            Now you’re talking.

          • Mike Solo

            Benzene is the primary component of new car smell…. but it can’t exceed a certain level before it becomes toxic

          • ZRAinSWVA

            That’s…fascinating. From a safety and health perspective, any exposure to a known carcinogen is to be avoided, and benzene has the added benefit of being a mutagen. Super!

          • Mike Solo

            Hence why every Jaguar Land Rover now has gone away from it and uses a substitute. But GM hasn’t….

          • Ernest Endevor

            Ahhhnnnnnnggg. Now I get it! (I don’t, but who gives a shit, amirite?)

          • Mike Solo

            Its all car speak… won’t matter when we go to autonomous cars…. but for now, it really matters to yummy mommies in the suburbs.

          • Dazzer

            With prosecco, you’d have to make do with a Fiat or – at a push – a second hand Ferrari.

        • Christopher

          Ah, that explains why I read it as Jag-Yoo-Ar. 😉

          • JCF

            Yeah, what’s w/ that? The animal (and therefore car) should clearly be pronounced Jag’-War. ;-p~~~

        • Ernest Endevor

          Me too. I still don’t know what it means.

          • Mike Solo

            We make the roof liner in Jaguar cars smell different basically… and they are teaching us engineers why.

          • Ernest Endevor

            Now i’ve read the whole thread and it’s fascinating. Thanks. Hope this is getting you through your meeting. How many other windows you got open? Plus, will you be doing a marketing push to try to teach Americans how to pronounce the name of the car?

          • Mike Solo

            Its a week long course on vehicle engineering…. we are now on “why do Jaguars break down”

            And JMG makes my day so much better, always!

          • Ernest Endevor

            “Why do Jaguars break down”? And you’ve only got a week? Why, you’ll barely scratch the surface!

          • David Walker

            Don’t confuse Jaguars with MGs. I’m sure Jaguars have many specific reasons for taking time off from being cars. For MGs, however, all the mechanic would ever need to say was, “It’s the electrical system.”

          • Ernest Endevor

            Please don’t ask me to make sense. I’m just a lonely man with a keyboard.

          • Menergy

            Ah yes, Lucas…….😉

          • trouble94114

            The British Prince of Darkness

          • Mike Solo

            Its actually a myth, Jaguar Land Rover is actually quite good now… but perceptions persist 🙁 But striving for Toyota levels of reliability, although Toyota is having significant problems lately

          • Ernest Endevor

            When I lived in London, whenever you passed a tow-truck you were supposed to say, “There goes another Jaguar.” But what do I know. Though wasn’t the XJE (the Bond jag?) notorious for breaking down? Or was that a rumor put about by Volvo?

          • Dazzer

            Oh good God! Jeremy Clarkson is asking the questions?

          • (((GC)))

            I’d have respect for an automaker that forgoes the “new car smell” treatments entirely.

      • perversatile

        My deeply flawed pre-caffeinated state of mind:
        Jaguar + tailor = headliner
        Headliner + jumper? = Fendi Jaguar Sweater
        https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/30b2a592ea052909f393aaff7be1348b6ed78688363f51474295dd2b20f919ed.png

        • Ernest Endevor

          Thanks for the link. I ordered two. It was the hideous, sullen model who put me over the top.

          • perversatile

            #NeedsMoreHeroin

        • Scott Carpenter

          It could be worse. As a devoted Trekkie, I read your post as “Ferengi Jaguar Sweater” and the visual was disturbing.

          • Steven Jaeger

            Quark in a jag sweater?

    • SkokieGuy [ChicagoAdjacentGuy]

      That is fascinating. Are you at liberty to disclose the various smells for each market?

      • Mike Solo

        For cars that have been released, US is leather intensive, China is the “new car smell”, Europe is scent free

        As a Jag Engineer, my job is to make sure that these headliners meet all the legal certifications for each market… China is the hardest, North America is the easiest.

        • SkokieGuy [ChicagoAdjacentGuy]

          China has more regulations than the US market? Us civilians woulda’ never thunk it…

          • clay

            “It’s so unfair. Americans need to be allowed to sell their products without hindrance everywhere in the world.”

            Excuse me, I think I’m coming down with a case of turmp.

          • SkokieGuy [ChicagoAdjacentGuy]

            It can be treated with an enema.

          • JaniceInToronto

            A large benzene enema.

          • pj

            we are all suffering from that.

          • Mike Solo

            US is a self-certification market, meaning if we say it complies, it does! Until you find out it doesn’t. The amount of things to get a car certified for sale is mind boggling, more than Russia, India, Brazil and Europe combined.

          • SkokieGuy [ChicagoAdjacentGuy]

            Wow, had no idea. And yet the auto industry (even before Trump) screams over-regulation is killing them and regulations must be reduced. I suppose less regulations means less to self-certify, so there’s that. LOL

          • Mike Solo

            The US is actually the weirdest market, and is actually very anti-new innovation. Hence no matrix LED headlamps, active safety features, and demands airbags that won’t kill someone if they are unbuckled. But its actually much more permissive than the EU. But the level of detail China wants to certify a car for market means its incredibly difficult and time consuming. We have to certify things like the leather dashboard, and demonstrate how its made, how many layers, how thick it is, each one is fire retardant, and other factors.

          • SkokieGuy [ChicagoAdjacentGuy]

            Does that help them also copy US technology? With international design, wouldn’t it be cheaper to make all cars to the highest standards to eliminate engineering, tooling and parts costs?

          • Mike Solo

            You would think, but the markets are so different in what they want that its nearly impossible to. India needs a raised ride height and smaller wheels for their horrible roads. And a more robust horn (standard ones wear out after 6 months). US has different suspension settings again from Europe. So you make them as similar as possible, but there are many design considerations for each market. So we break down to North America, Europe, India, China, Brazil, Japan, and Rest of the World. So coming out of the factory you have several slightly different models.

          • SkokieGuy [ChicagoAdjacentGuy]

            Thanks for explaining. I suppose in the US, there is the cost savings from eliminating turn signals on BMWs, so that increases profits.

          • Mike Solo

            And rear view mirrors for Mercedes-Benz

    • clay

      Gawd, for an entire minute I was like “Apple OS X can change the smell of the top ribbon menu? How can it do that? Does it make my exhaust fan overheat to a specific temperature, burning certain compounds in dust mites? And how can it change the smell of only the headliner; human smell isn’t a directional sense.”

    • Reality.Bites

      For those of us unfamiliar with the term headliner outside of a showbiz context, I googled and it’s what we call, “You know, that sort of padding stuck to the inside of the car roof.”

      • Mike Solo

        We do keep showbiz in consideration, Range Rovers need enough headroom for a normal person to wear a hat… or feather headdress.

        • SkokieGuy [ChicagoAdjacentGuy]

          Not to mention a center console large enough to rest your purse (with dog inside).

          • Mike Solo

            Believe it or not, that is a design feature in Range Rovers, but not Land Rovers…. there is a hook on the side console specifically for that.

      • SkokieGuy [ChicagoAdjacentGuy]

        Its what Mama Rose fought for on the Orpheum circuit for Baby June.

    • Joe in PA

      Well, I think that’s fascinating. I always wanted to be on the committee that got to name car colors. Ok, I’m weird like that. And I KNOW I could do a better job in picking the actual colors. So often I see cars and think: what were they thinking?? 🙂

      • Mike Solo

        The I-Pace hasn’t had its colors named, so right now we are calling the one we have in our tester paddock that I’m working on “dismal English grey”

        • Dazzer

          Looking out the window at the moment, that is a perfectly descriptive phrase.

        • Joe in PA

          I think most automobile manufactures use that color. 🙁 All these grey cars! Side bar: friends of ours got a[n] Pace earlier this year…I had no idea Jag offered an SUV. Everyone is getting in to that market apparently.

          • Stubenville

            Gray cars show less dirt.

          • Joe in PA

            Not helping Stubenville. 🙂 It really is amazing once you start noticing…but how nice: most manufacturers offer about 4 SHADES of grey. lol Arrrgh.

          • Steven Jaeger

            I like cars with strong colors, deep reds to purple to dark blues, forest green. Some of the bronzes are pretty hot. All of the pale washed out colors suck. Gray, whitish, black, ‘dusty colors also.

        • Stubenville

          I want to get in on the color naming gig with absolutely meaningless names like VW’s “tornado red” and “fresco green”.

    • Igby

      I own a 2017 BMW. Very unique smell, although I swear it comes from the ventilation.

  • Christopher
  • Bluto

    That’s called a “BOOM!, muthafucka!”
    & Thanks for the ditty, Betty.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXmPGrZDIAc&feature=youtu.be

  • netxtown

    How is that a good public smack-down of a belligerent asshole is almost as good as a morning woody?

    • Jeffg166

      How to deal with trump.

    • Caprice Goldberg

      Yeah, that was pretty good…. but nowhere near the level of morning wood…

    • Todd20036

      Nice but would you really want to post pics of your morning wood on a news site?

    • james1200

      A morning woody can be quite annoying, especially when ur running late but a good smackdown is forever!

  • DaddyRay

    Bluff Called – Put Up or Shut Up

    • Todd20036

      Right. Like Roy is even capable of shutting up

    • SilasMarner

      I’d love it if AMG drug this asshole into public court and shine the sunlight on this cockroach!

      • David L. Caster

        There is no lotion to prevent shunburn.

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  • netxtown

    In light of Roy – and the display of his little book in the pic – I say it is high time to remove ‘under god’ from the pledge, AND remove ‘in gawd we trust’ from our money. We know religion is a mental illness – so why would we want to promote such an obvious weakness?

  • Rebecca Gardner

    John G. Thompson, Jr’s letter is awesome. Turned the tables on them. Also love the Rule 11 threat.

    Oh yeah, he’s pretty cute too -> https://www.lightfootlaw.com/attorney/john-g-thompson-jr/

    • netxtown

      Does he make house calls…by any chance? 🙂

    • Rambie

      I see a fan club starting.

    • Reality.Bites

      It’s nice to see an Alabama lawyer who can write in grammatically correct sentences. I was beginning to think there weren’t any.

      • Rebecca Gardner

        Trenton Garmon vs John G. Thompson, Jr. in a court of law would be like Frito from Idiocracy vs. Clarence Darrow.

        • Reality.Bites

          Sadly though, Alabama state judges are definitely part of the idiocracy.

      • perversatile

        Although beautifully composed,
        I can’t help but think,
        ”We’uns double dawg dares ya”
        might have been more succinct.

    • Ron

      Pretty cute is an understatement.
      I want him to litigate me all night long

      • David Walker

        A probe is definitely in order.

    • David Walker

      Oh…you look after your boys so well. Thank you.

    • jerry

      He should probably have explained the Rule 11…don’t expect the ambulance chaser Moore hired to know these things.

  • Butch

    Mr. Moore, since you claim to be a judge, I’d look up Supreme Court cases like Gertz V. Welch and New York Times V. Sullivan and see if your lawsuits have any chance at all of succeeding.

  • Jack

    Rule 11! Now, that’s using both barrels. I think they had this in mind:

    “The signature of an attorney constitutes a certificate by the attorney that the attorney has read the pleading, motion, or other paper; that to the best of the attorney’s knowledge, information, and belief there is good ground to support it. . . .
    For a willful violation of this rule an attorney may be subjected to appropriate disciplinary action.”

  • Jonathan Smith
    • Jonathan Smith

      So far so good

    • JCF

      What am I missing here? [Best wishes, per always, to a human being experiencing health difficulties]

  • Galvestonian

    WHoooooo- Haaaaaaaa !!!!

  • Michael R
    • Stephen Elliot Phillips

      Usually its the opposite

  • BeaverTales

    “You silly journalistic watchdogs, once I appoint myself to the supreme court, you’ll pay for your insolence!”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnXAl1ntt_4

  • OdieDenCO

    The Return of the 1st Amendment! could be a good movie.

  • DaddyRay
  • Gregory B

    YES!! Good Monday morning Roy Moore and Trent Garmon – put that in your pipe and smoke it!

  • Jonathan Smith

    They just a)took him in and b)kicked me out……sigh

    • PickyPecker

      Stay strong and focus, JS. He’s going to need you fully functional as he moves into recovery. XO

    • DaddyRay

      What is the surgery for?

      • Jonathan Smith

        Nothing too important. Removing a bunch of cysts and testing for cancer.
        Doesn’t stop me from freaking

    • yes b’y
      • JCF

        In my front yard in Michigan, one time I saw a cat and a deer do this!

        • yes b’y

          awwww

  • DaddyRay
    • ZRAinSWVA

      I shouldn’t, but…hahahahahahaha

    • djcoastermark

      Giggles and snickers!

      • Gregory B

        Followed by thoughts and prayers!

    • Andymac3

      I guess divorce was too expensive in Tennessee.

    • djcoastermark

      My lard, the story reads like some slapstick movie. It got funnier as it went along.

      • ZRAinSWVA

        “It just slipped his mind that he recharged the weapon.” You just can’t make this stuff up. Seriously. And he’s carrying a gun. What’s next, “I didn’t realize I shouldn’t be smoking while I’m putting gas in my lawn mower?”

    • Rebecca Gardner

      Not even The Onion can compete with reality in ‘Merica!

    • Natty Enquirer

      Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition.

      • Bad Tom

        …and unchamber the fucking round.

        • (((GC)))

          As another commenter said: a gun is loaded. Always. Even when it’s not. And especially after you put a bullet back in!

    • Treant

      NOW they’re working on a program about gun safety? 🙂

    • Ninja0980

      No pity for stupid people.

    • The_Wretched

      Imagine that. It slipped the mind of a 81 year old that he’d reinserted the magazine. If someone is too old to drive, they are preemptively too old to handle firearms.

    • JCF

      I suspect that this being a UMC, their perspective re guns in church was probably strongly negative.

      And then this douche got trigger-stupid (feel sorry for his wife, who was much worse wounded).

  • Harveyrabbit

    Same reason tRump never follows through on any of his threats to sue anyone.

  • Joe in PA

    Well, Roy’s crackpot personal-injury-lawyer will certainly be ready for this!

    Tehehehehe.

  • JaniceInToronto

    Wow. Just like a punch to the face.

    I rejoice!

  • BartmanLA

    Moore obviously learned his tactics for threatening to sue from the master himself, Trump. That’s all The Donald has done year after year, intimidation by threatening lawsuits, if he does employ attorney’s all they end up doing is burying the plantiff in discovery and motions for years until they finally give up or give in and settle for a pitiful amount. And of course the times Trump has LOST a case, which ever “company” involved ends up declaring bankruptcy or conveniently get’s sold before he has to pay a single penny in damages.

  • SilasMarner

    SAAANAAP!

  • fuow

    There’s an old saying:
    And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
    Sure applies here, don’ it?!!!
    Good for AMG.

  • Tom Furgas

    What is Rule 11?

  • M Jackson

    Best let ADF and Liberty Council take over this case, they have much more experience in suffering humiliating defeats.

  • paganguy

    So… basically… FU.

  • Clive Johnson

    Stand by your convictions, Moore. Stick it to the “liberal media” and make them eat their “fake news.” Go ahead. Pursue legal action. Your self-dishonesty has taken you about as far as you can go without having to face the truth, if truth exists. Prove to any and all that the incessant charge of “fake news” is just that.

    If you’re innocent of all charges, then what’s the worry? Not only will a lawsuit sweep you clean but it will put you in an even better political position against McConnell and those dastardly liberals, those Bible mockers, and haters of the 10 commandments. It’s a wining proposition.

    Calling Liberty Council–you have a new client and another legal triumph in the making!

  • Jay George

    I think I might have just had a religious experience reading that. Hallelujah!

  • DesertSun59

    What? Is this news outlet independent? How are they able to defend their reporting like this in such a backward state? But it’s also interesting how Moore has been operating on an important fact. He’s quite aware that the vast vast vast majority of voters outside AL had never heard of him before.

    • Pete Wascher

      ah, the benefits of social media. harder and harder to be a backwater these days.

      • Ben in Oakland

        Talibama, the Mississippi of the south, will be a backwater until the day it sinks beneath the waves of nonexistent global warming.

  • tomfromthenews

    I wonder what a “Rule 11 motion” is?

    • Pete Wascher

      deals with court action against a filer of a frivolous lawsuit, as best i can tell. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frivolous_litigation

      • coram nobis

        Indeed it is, and state laws usually have something similar. The AL.com attorney is saying “before we make your client testify to every grope he ever made, we’ll ask the court to fine you and your firm personally for making frivolous threats and wasting their time. Cross-examine THAT, you barracuda.”

  • Pete Wascher

    mr moore, taking a page out of the trump manual, eh? (we’re still waiting for trump to follow thru on his threat to sue 13 women who claim sexual harassment. also, didn’t trump threaten to sue and never pursued those who filed against trump university–instead trump quietly paid a $25M fine?)

    reminiscent of a cornered animal’s last act of desperation.

  • Andreus

    “Mr. Moore, we know you’re stupid, but are you Let-Newspaper-Legal-Teams-Engage-In-Discovery stupid?”

  • coram nobis

    Wow, a Rule 11 threat. I assume that’s to Fed. R. of Civ. Proc. 11, and not to its equivalent in Alabama law. It’s also a clear threat, in the penultimate paragraph, to put ol’ Roy on the stand and ask him, in painful detail, about his past dalliances.

    (b) Representations to the Court. By presenting to the court a pleading, written motion, or other paper—whether by signing, filing, submitting, or later advocating it—an attorney or unrepresented party certifies that to the best of the person’s knowledge, information, and belief, formed after an inquiry reasonable under the circumstances:

    (1) it is not being presented for any improper purpose, such as to harass, cause unnecessary delay, or needlessly increase the cost of litigation;

    (2) the claims, defenses, and other legal contentions are warranted by existing law or by a nonfrivolous argument for extending, modifying, or reversing existing law or for establishing new law;

    (3) the factual contentions have evidentiary support or, if specifically so identified, will likely have evidentiary support after a reasonable opportunity for further investigation or discovery; and

    (4) the denials of factual contentions are warranted on the evidence or, if specifically so identified, are reasonably based on belief or a lack of information.

    (c) Sanctions.

    (1) In General. If, after notice and a reasonable opportunity to respond, the court determines that Rule 11(b) has been violated, the court may impose an appropriate sanction on any attorney, law firm, or party that violated the rule or is responsible for the violation. Absent exceptional circumstances, a law firm must be held jointly responsible for a violation committed by its partner, associate, or employee.
    — Fed. R. of Civ. P. 11

    • Ben in Oakland

      I don’t recall….

      I’m not sure that I can remember….

      Jesus forgave me for that….

      • coram nobis

        In all other professions in which men engage
        (Says I to meself, says I)
        The Army .. the Navy .. the Church … or the stage (alas, poor Yorick)
        (Says I to meself says I)
        Professional license, if carried too far,
        Your chance for promotion will certainly mar,
        And I fancy this rule might apply to the Bar
        (Says I to meself says I)
        — W.S. Gilbert, ex-barrister

        • Ben in Oakland

          Didn’t he also wrote…

          I am the very model of a modern major dickhead.

  • Bad Tom

    That letter from AMG is a delight!

  • Stubenville

    Ooh snap!

  • Jean-Marc in Canada
  • Kevin Andrews

    There is nothing that would make my little heart happier than seeing this scum-of-the-Earth, twice removed from the bench, malignant narcisist & pedophile served with a class action suit from all his accusers and then have the paper throw their weight behind making it happen in an amicus brief. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/4da53f86932ec5b35a94e96beecb154c63dc1ed1474d734adfa014a12cb7b810.png

  • Ninja0980

    Your move asshole.

  • Hank

    Nice to see an AL news organization with BALLS!!!!