Today In Trumpian Petty Assholery

The Week reports:

President Trump responded on Twitter Sunday to comments from LaVar Ball, the father of a UCLA basketball player, which downplayed the president’s role in getting his son, LiAngelo Ball, and two other student athletes, Cody Riley and Jalen Hill, released from shoplifting charges in China.

“Who?” the elder Ball said to ESPN Friday when asked about Trump’s actions. “What was he over there for? Don’t tell me nothing. Everybody wants to make it seem like he helped me out.” Trump reportedly spoke to Chinese President Xi Jinping about the players while visiting Beijing on his tour of Asia this month, and he did not appreciate Ball’s remarks.

Newsweek reports:

“I had a great conversation with President Xi,” Trump told reporters aboard Air Force One Tuesday. “He was terrific, and they’re working on it right now. And hopefully everything is going to work out.”

But shortly after the players were freed, the president took to Twitter to deride the lack of thanks he had received after intervening, commenting: “Do you think the three UCLA Basketball Players will say thank you President Trump? They were headed for 10 years in jail!”

The president’s Wednesday tweet prompted the three players to issue public thanks to the president, despite it being unlikely they would have faced a 10-year sentence even if they were found guilty.

  • boobert

    ” Worship me, dammit ! “

    • Treant

      “No.”

      “I need somebody to kill everybody who hates me..”

      • Lumpy Gaga

        “Who will rid me of this meddlesome 60+ percent?”

  • Daveed_WOW

    Stupid bigot says what?

  • TrueWords
    • Christopher

      That should read seconds, not days.

      • NZArtist

        And should read ‘global’ not ‘national’.

      • Mark

        nano-seconds…..

    • -M-

      Just have it engraved.

  • safari

    is unaccecpting

    I think he meant not grateful or not thankful. I suspect Donald doesn’t have either of those words in his vocabulary.

  • Bluto
  • Blake Jordan

    I know neither god nor the Devil wants him, which is why he is not dead yet, but permanent coma seems fair to all, right!?!?!?!?

    • Skeptical_Inquirer

      How about Limbo or Purgatory? There’s always him being a ghost perpetually haunt Mar-a-Lago.

    • bzrd

      I’m fine with a stroke which paralyzes him completely thus denying him the ability to eat or speak, stuck in a wheel chair in front of MSNBC with a feeding tube, and cognizant of his totally fcked life

      • BearEyes

        MSNBC is too good for him. Make it CNN.

        • Reality.Bites

          Oprah Winfrey Network.

          • BearEyes

            with “Dr” Phil

  • bkmn
    • David L. Caster

      That should be a 15 second spot on every national newscast.

  • Treant

    “They didn’t immediately buy me hookers to pee on me and rim me. They deserve to stay in jail.”

    Yeah, that would have been equally classy.

  • bkmn
  • Harveyrabbit
    • Todd20036

      That’s is actual tweet too, complete with hashtags, isn’t it?

  • TheGrandWazoo2

    In today’s installment of ‘That Fuckin’ Guy’…

    • AdamTh

      ‘That Fuckin’ Moron’….

  • Alternative Facts

    Imagine if Obama tweeted that while he was President.
    Teabagistan would be calling for the torches and pitchforks.
    But Trumpollini says it, and its all ok……

  • MikeBx2

    Racist.

  • Dreaming Vertebrate

    So cringe-worthy.
    Can’t wait until the White House is free of his vile taint.

    • canoebum

      We still have to live with the hateful scum who elected him.

    • Reality.Bites

      And the body surrounding it.

  • TrueWords

    My aunt and I were speaking about this and these young men’s actions and she summed it up oh so well…

    “Why would you do something SO stupid…why give that racist Trump a platform to first admonish you, then praise (himself of course) and lastly destroy you…why would you do anything to give the bigots and racists that support Trump a platform that YOU ALL should be grateful that a “white man” saved you”…

    • boobert

      Smart woman !

    • Hue-Man

      I don’t know the races of the players but I doubt they were Chinese; in other words, they were impossible to miss while shoplifting!

      • TrueWords

        My aunt and I chuckled about this VERY fact…

    • BearEyes

      your aunt is correct.

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    • I’d like to buy your aunt a drink 😉

      • TrueWords

        I will take her out for one on your behalf…

    • CJAS

      I said this exact thing to my mother last night.

    • rgravesBERSERKER

      Only racists see everything through the prism of race.

  • Dreaming Vertebrate

    It’s worth reflecting on the fact that Trump’s original tweet was sent with the hope of a follow-up tweet much like today’s. Gotta keep his Nazi and white-supremacist base happy!
    What a pathetic, fn’ MORON!

  • AdamTh

    The “Things a Real POTUS Would Never Do” list just keeps getting longer and longer…..

  • Skeptical_Inquirer

    OT: THIS is what TRUE morality looks like. This is something almost no GOPer can comprehend.

    https://www.buzzfeed.com/karlazabludovsky/these-children-want-their-fathers-to-be-punished-for-their?utm_term=.hvp7a7ord#.cwJD4Dv9Y

    “Lederer stood before the court to accuse a doctor of taking part in so-called “death flights” — when thousands of opponents of the military dictatorship that ran Argentina from 1976 to 1983 were thrown from planes into the Rio de la Plata, which separates it from Uruguay.

    What made Lederer’s accusations so extraordinary was that the doctor in question was her father, Ricardo Lederer.

    Lederer is one of dozens of children of human rights abusers from the period —
    known as the Dirty War — who are fighting to make sure their fathers pay for their crimes. Most began speaking out against them for the first time this year. Their objective is twofold: to gather evidence of the crimes committed by their parents, and to change a law that forbids children from testifying against their own families.”

  • Ninja0980

    So one of the parents (no surprise it was) acts like a dick and that means you act like one too?
    Got to love it.

  • Blake J Butler

    I;m watching Jared Polis’s live feed discussing his plans for governor.

    Eyes on the bigger prize than the rotting asshole in chief.

  • Blake J Butler
    • Ninja0980

      He’s being nominated to a seat that never should have been open in the first place.
      You want to see the failure of Democrats and the judicial branch, allowing Republicans to keep a seat open since 2005 is at the top of that list.

      • HoneyBoySmith

        I’ve come to the conclusion that Republicans, though individually stupid, are collectively smarter than liberals.

        I saw it in 2000 when a then friend of mine decided that Gore wasn’t ideologically pure enough and voted for Nader. When she whined about Bush, I reminded her that she could have cast a vote to stop Bush but deliberately chose not to.

        Fast forward to 2016: every person who voted for Stein or Johnson or opted not to vote shares responsibility for the Trump disaster that we’re not living through.

        And, Trump’s disaster isn’t going to stop when he is out of office. His tax cuts and his judicial appointments are going to oppress anyone who isn’t a straight white male for DECADES to come.

        People like Susan Sarandon, who pretended to care about things that matter to the ordinary people of this country are fucking garbage. She’s worse now than she was in 2000 when she shunned Al Gore.

        Susan Sarandon is the only person I’ve actually hated without having known him or her personally.

  • boobert

    He really is disturbed with some deep rejection issues.

  • shellback

    Hey, Dotard, speaking of jail, have you bought some soap on a rope yet?

  • TheGrandWazoo2
    • JAKvirginia

      Heckuva job… um… brownie?

  • Boreal
  • Boreal
  • IAMBOWLINGQUEEN
    • another_steve

      There’s that and there’s Fred Trump’s racist devastation of large swaths of New York City during his time as a criminal real estate developer.

      Like father, like son.

  • Ninja0980
    • NZArtist

      Y’know, I was raised on a farm. We drank milk practiclly straight from the cow. I can remember pouring milk from a jug in the fridge where mostly it was just cream from the top. I’m surprised I’m not 400 pounds, and dead from heart disease.

      • Skeptical_Inquirer

        Did it taste significantly better than pasteurized milk? Not that it would entice me to deregulate pasteurization.

        • Gil

          Wild onions or garlic ??? Yummy !!

        • NZArtist

          Actually I think it did. The taste of ice-cold mostly-cream milk on a hot summer’s day is fantastic.
          Note that I’m absolutely *not* advocating anyone else try this. I also have memories of wading through drains full of cow-shit, driving a tractor at 4:00am on a frosty morning (I was 12 years old…) to feed hay to cows, and swimming naked in the lake. (And all the things I used to get up to with my cousins…)
          That’s just farm life. Probably being exposed to so many horrible things at a very young age means you have some sort of resistance. And it’s also possible modern intense farming methods have led to more problems with raw milk. No idea.
          These days I’m quite content to drink homogenized milk. I absolutely wouldn’t drink raw milk now – it’d probably kill me.

        • Christopher Smith

          No comparison whatsoever, and I am disgusted to see so much Big Agra conventional fearmongering from JMG readers on this subject.

      • Tomcat

        You were playing with fire back then.

        • NZArtist

          Well that too… who told you about my pyromaniac past??

    • Boreal

      That’ll teach those libtards!

    • Skeptical_Inquirer

      I’d actually be cool with more of them drinking raw milk except that you and I know they’d feed their kids this stuff.

    • Tomcat

      The reason they homogenize and pasteurize it is kids were dying from drinking it years ago. Yes you can drink it and be fine IF you do not ingest bacteria which is very prevalent in raw milk.

      • thatotherjean

        Not to mention that bovine TB can be passed to humans in raw milk. There isn’t much around, because only 13 states (now including WV), permit it to be sold. Regulations generally exist for good reasons.

        • Lumpy Gaga

          “But, but… they’re REGULATIONS!”

        • Christopher Smith

          A very stupid and unfounded generalization about regulations AND about raw milk. Educate yourself, please.

          • thatotherjean

            I did read up on the subject before I commented. Bovine TB is much rarer than it used to be, certainly, but there’s still enough around to have been responsible for about 2% of human TB cases. Drink raw milk if you choose, but there is still a risk of disease, sometimes serious.

          • Christopher Smith

            Yes, from Big Agra farms, it might be serious. Just as every other risk of disease from the corrupt oligarchical shitshow that is Big Agra is potentially serious. Look at all the salmonella, shigella, ETC ETC ETC, outbreaks in the past couple of years alone 😀 😀 😀 I’m disappointed in you– I thought better of you from your past comments on other subjects.

      • Christopher Smith

        Ahhhh, another anti-natural-foods crusader. Let’s hear all about how good steroids, BGH, etc, are for you now, hmm?

      • Christopher Smith
    • PickyPecker

      Our neighbor will sell some raw milk if asked. I’ve had it several times. Not only is it loaded with fat, but really does reflect the flavor of what the cows have been fed. In this case, they are grazing grass…and there is a hint of that in the milk flavor. (the milk is great for baking!!)

      • djcoastermark

        When I was a kid, we would visit relatives in upstate NY where they had a cow farm. Every morning the cows had to be milked. Then, breakfast of cereal and fresh warm milk. Ugh. The most horrifying bowl of cereal I ever had.

        • TuuxKabin

          El HubCap likes a milk bath from time to time. Usually warm months. First time I helped him with it the doorbell rang. It was the cow farmer with milk. He had me ask, yell out towards the bathroom, “HONAY! DO YOU WANT IT PASTEURIZED??”

          “No. Up to my neck will do,” was his reply.

          Shove me out, ‘cuz I ain’t goin’.

          • djcoastermark

            Oh you’s a sly one there Mr. Tuux. 🙂

          • TuuxKabin

            Ah, thanks. For once it’s not a quote from here. Heard it on the radio long, long time ago.

          • djcoastermark

            Love it though. I am going to use use it this holiday season with hubs family. I hope you don’t mind. Hubs thinks it is hilarious ! ( he loves to take a bath and the family all knows that). I just hope we aint tarred and feathered after that.

        • stuckinthewoods

          When I was a kid our milk came from Denmark and it may have been pasteurized but it sure wasn’t homogenized. It had those gag inducing lard icebergs. Husband remarks that he’s never seen anyone else use beer on bran flakes.

      • Christopher Smith

        It is wonderful, and so vastly superior for baking/cooking that there is NO comparison whatsoever.

    • Lumpy Gaga

      Smells like freedom.

    • jerry

      No, that happened in February…but they were extremely stupid, nonetheless.

  • Stubenville

    Oh grow up Cheetolini. You did something nice for once; don’t expect people to fawn over you.

  • Natty Enquirer

    It’s long past time for a Constitutional amendment to take away Trump’s free speech.

  • JT

    What a disgusting piece of shit you are, Drumpf.

  • OdieDenCO

    no! the fact that they were shoplifting is bad. the fact that donny is claiming to have pulled strings to let the get away with it is worse. if they broke the law of the host country, they should face the consequences of their actions. being a celebrity does not mean “they let you do anything”!

    • Stubenville

      i don’t think it’s the way thing are done in China, but a very hefty fine (say $20,000 US) and the next flight home would have been appropriate IMO.

    • Treant

      Grab them by the pricetag! When you’re famous, they let you do anything. I did try to steal it, but it was chained down.

  • Gigi

    Trump thinks he’s God.

    “But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them–bring them here and kill them in front of me.” (Luke 19:27)

  • Lazycrockett
    • Skeptical_Inquirer

      He should have learned from watching Obama get tons of shit directed at him (and having been a major flinger of said shit) but no, he thought his experience would be different.

    • Bubba in TX

      I think she misspelled “human”.

  • MikeBx2
    • Blake J Butler

      Yeah i saw that when he had it all in caps.

      • Robincho

        But,,, but, no. You CAN’t mean that he couched it in MAJUSCULES, can you?…

    • safari

      Someone is worried about his advertisers bailing.

    • Skeptical_Inquirer

      The thing is the more he comes down hard on Bill Clinton, the more hypocritical he looks for not applying the same standards to Moore and Trump. Not that he cares, but yeah, I’m hoping for high blood pressure.

      • Friday

        Not to mention himself and his whole network. 🙂

      • Robincho

        Burnt steak and Mountain Dew’ll do that…

        • Todd Allis

          I wonder if he has old Trump steaks in a freezer somewhere.

    • Stubenville

      Dear Lard, what now? His Starbucks was cold?

      • safari

        The Media Matters president was on CNN. Media Matters is heading the advitiser boycott of Hannity’s show.

    • Treant

      Who? He’s dead to me. He could work out for the next year and appear before me needing some luvin’ and I’d be all like, “Who are you?”

      • Reality.Bites

        Seth or Sean?

        • Treant

          Seen Handily. I adore Seth and would make madcap bear love to him.

          • Robincho

            Slut…

          • Treant

            Thank you! What do you call a slightly agoraphobic slut?

            Frustrated.

          • Robincho

            At least you’re not afraid of sweaters, like Ed Wood, Jr., else I should have to refer to you as angoraphobic…

      • Todd20036

        Like Hannity would ever look like someone even Another Steve would look at twice.

    • Cuberly Deux

      Holy crap! He’s blown a gasket.

      And his grifter buddy Geraldo is more than willing to chime in in agreement.

  • another_steve

    “I should have left them in jail” is dog whistle code to his deplorables.

    Here’s what they hear:

    “They’re only nỉggers. They’re lucky not to have already been in jail. See? You do things for them and they’re still not completely grateful.”

    • MikeBx2

      As we recall, he questioned in a tweet whether or not the players would be grateful. Then all three thanked him, ruining his chance to yell at and degrade the black people. The father gave him back the opportunity.

      • another_steve

        Donald Trump’s rabid racism has been given a major major “pass” by most print and TV news media. Even on MSNBC and CNN, they pussyfoot around it.

        Why? Because they don’t want to lose large segments of their non-black viewing audience, i.e. people who purchase lots and lots of Cialis and reverse mortgages and arthritis medications – all of which are hawked by the stations’ commercial sponsors.

    • John30013

      The players were stupid and showed an astounding lack of judgment. I know the impulse control centers of the brain aren’t fully mature until age 25 or so, but these young men still should know right from wrong. I hope they are thrown off the basketball team (although I know they won’t be…).

      Having said that, Trump is his usual, bigoted, childish self. I’m sure the last thing those players were thinking about was how Trump might use this event against them (and by extension all people of color).

      • another_steve

        If they’re truly guilty of the shoplifting – yes, they should be thrown off the team.

        What signal would keeping them on the team send to other players and to their fans?

        • safari

          Right now I think we’re just trying to teach young athletes not to rape.

          • another_steve

            Don’t get me started on this, safari. I have major major issues with the mixing of athletics and academia. I really don’t think that “pay for” athletic stuff (e.g., commercial ticket sales) belongs on college campuses, for example.

            My husband is a graduate of Georgetown University and an avid follower of Georgetown basketball.

            We do not discuss this at the dinner table.

        • GeoffreyPS

          Unfortunately the same signal (though not quite as strong) that some repiblicans are giving Moore. It’s ok if you break the law as long as you do other things that we like. A horrible message and a standard based in quicksand.

      • Lantor

        Are we sure they actually did shoplifting? It would seem pretty stupid to do that in China. Have they admitted they did?

        • John30013

          I’m not sure, but I haven’t read about any denials of the charges from either the players or their school.

          I’m not sure what China would have to gain by making up the charges, either.

          • LaChatSayWha

            The Chinese government, that knows how to manipulate Donnie2Scoops, would benefit from causing a scandal while Dump was in the country. For one, it makes the US look bad, and then there is the entirely predictable Dump mishandling of the incident, which again, makes the US look bad.

            This incident is exactly the kind of thing the Party would pull. I have no idea if they did arrange it, but it would be characteristic of them & the timing was perfect.

        • Bubba in TX

          Each apologized for it in their press conference…before or after dutifully thanking Trump. So I guess they did it.

          BTW, I believe that Trump included a “You’re welcome” in a subsequent Tweet. But I’m pretty sure he didn’t do it to be gracious. It was to pat himself on the back once again, and it also seemed like he needed to get in the last word, like a petulant teenager.

      • Ragnar Lothbrok
  • Treant

    OT: Well, this came out interestingly. Since the fragrance accelerated the mix and solidified it faster, thinner lines and curves were impossible. I slapped it into the mold and had done with it.

    ETA: Amusingly, the scent is “Lick Me All Over.” It’s a floral-fruity scent that’s very pleasant. But being a floral, I should have expected acceleration.

    I may call this “Shroom Clouds Soap” since the colors are most unusual, and it looks like a mostly-cloudy day in druggie land. In retrospect, I’m kind of glad the pattern wasn’t finer. I like this.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/7a1ac89be99585695e2b238cea5f0022db9020c435c58388b6505ecae2077bf6.jpg

    • PickyPecker

      NICE! You should be very proud….they came out beautifully. You could display those in the window of a chic boutique.

      • another_steve

        I’ve told the boy in other comments of mine that he should consider going commercial. There’s a market for designer soaps.

        Think of all the “publicity” he could get from just this blog. 😉

    • AlternativeQuacks

      Reminds me of the 70s and beachside souvenir shops with vendors wearing Grateful Dead t-shirts and sandals. Very pretty.

    • Skeptical_Inquirer

      Just of curiosity, have you ever made a peppermint candy cane kind of soap? Or does that just turn out really bad?

      • Treant

        I’ve done it quite a lot, and peppermint is one of my favorite scents in soap!

        With peppermint essential oil, it can be rather…tingly…on…certain areas. So the limit is 2.5% of total weight. Fortunately, that’s enough for an almighty peppermint scent. More than that will start to burn the skin.

        It does burn off fairly quickly over time, so an anchor is necessary. A little dash of bentonite clay does that just fine, or use an anchor scent with it that you won’t notice, like amber.

        Swirling or patterning two colors is very easy. The hard part here? Getting a decent red. It’s the holy grail of soap making; most reds are way too orange, or turn out way too pink in the white base.

        So as long as you’re not too particular about the red hue, yes, you can do peppermint candy soap. 🙂

      • Treant

        Also, y’know, I totally have not done a peppermint with a note of evergreen for Christmas (it’s a nice winter scent too). So…I guess I wasn’t done. I’ll do a small run tonight. Photos later.

        Thanks for the idea!

        • iambu

          Simply here to endorse the evergreen. It’s one of my favorite scents (family of scents? There’s more than one) and I’d use it all year. Reminds me of some happy memories in the Pacific NW and hiking in Central California.

    • E.J.

      looks like some cheese I found in the back of my refrigerator :p

      • Treant

        I know, right? Except nature doesn’t produce some of these colors!

        • Lumpy Gaga

          It’s not nice to fool mother nature.

          FYI.

    • Bj Lincoln

      Looks like a landscape. I like it.

    • stuckinthewoods

      A malachite pattern would be nice. You said you use ultramarine as colorant so a faux lapis could be done, in fact, the blue part in that picture looks like some low grade lapis rough I have.

      • Treant

        Easy-peasy. Malachite, black and green and white (for contrast) is an extremely common and popular color set.

        I haven’t personally done it (my greens are either chromium oxide, a very dull green, or yellow and blue, which can be a bit unpredictable).

        http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-VdFz8QxBKvw/VU1AO0AuePI/AAAAAAAAAZ4/iW_MpUbpb98/s1600/soap%2Bgemstone%2BMalachite.jpg

        • stuckinthewoods

          When I started thinking about rock and mineral patterns I began to wonder if your soap can be handled as I sometimes do with colored mortars to approximate stone. Can you let individual colors half-set, chop them up, and compact them together to give an effect more like a granite than a marble? Or suspend pieces in a clearer pour (opal)?

        • Lumpy Gaga

          Manly, yes, but I like it, too.

    • Paula

      “Lick me all over”? That is certainly friendlier sounding than if you had called it “Sniff my sweaty crotch.” 😉 😛

      Those look great!!

  • AlternativeQuacks

    Trump got it right the first time: We’re unpresidented.

  • thatotherjean

    I think there’s more than enough assholery to go around, there. Three adult men had no business going on a shoplifting spree at all, much less in a foreign country where they are guests. Their father should have acknowledged Trump’s role in gaining their release. Trump should have kept his mouth shut, instead of bragging about getting them out of China and demanding more gratitude than he got. How has this country produced so many child-men?

    • Bambino

      Yeah, but I don’t blame the father. Any normal person would have a very difficult time thanking the dotard. Just the thought of writing anything remotely pleasant about that vile piece of shit would make me stay close to a toilet bowl.

  • MikeBx2
    • Treant

      He can’t get too vicious with the white guys just yet, not until the dismantling of the economy is done and he’s the head of a dictatorship. At that point, the good ol’ boys will get what’s coming to them.

      • safari

        Jobs as official brownshirts?

        • Treant

          That, too. And when they’re not brownshirty enough, they’ll be given space in an oven for free. Eventually, every fascist state is destroyed…or consumes itself.

      • Robincho

        A suicide in the subterranean WH bunker, maybe? With Melanoma Braun stoically at his side?…

        • Treant

          I’m certainly hopeful. Once the bombs drop, neither of them have any useful skills and they’re gonna get on a lot of army people’s nerves very quickly…

        • Steverino

          With the crispy corpse of Steve Bannon above in the Reichsgarten, er Rose Garden, who accomplished the deed by blowing a puff of boozy breath onto a cigarette lighter.

  • Lazycrockett
    • Ninja0980

      Was only a matter of time.
      Damn shame that what was once a secular country is being turned into another theocratic hellhole.

      • Sporkfighter

        Look closer to home . . . be very afraid.

        • Todd20036

          And the couple in the picture is so beautiful.

          Yeah, I can see the Nazis pulling similar stunts, at least in the red states to start.

          • iambu

            I scrolled kinda fast and missed the headline, spotting the picture first and, thinking it was good news, my immediate reaction was: Aww! What a cute couple!

            Then I read what it was about and now I’m sad. But, yes, you’re correct, they are quite beautiful. At least we have that.

          • Sporkfighter

            “State’s Rights”

    • Halou

      And the State Department that in previous years would have justly condemned this is…. nowhere to be seen.

      • PickyPecker

        State Department? What’s that?

        • Halou

          I’m sure it’ll appear in the history books sooner or later.

  • Dreaming Vertebrate

    Anyone else seeing a “Will you stand with Judge Roy Moore?” advert on this JMG page???
    Ack!!!!

    • PickyPecker

      AdBlock, dear. It works wonders.

      • Dreaming Vertebrate

        I know, but I was told the ads are needed to support the site.

        • PickyPecker

          yes, and they do. However, you can do what I do……use AdBlock a bunch and just undo the application from time to time and click on a few of the ads that aren’t offensive. That lets the advertisers know that we came from JMG. Right now, my AdBlock is showing a block of 5 ads on this page alone.

    • Boreal

      No, using Ublock origin.

  • Oscarlating Wildely

    Note that this is not the player who did not thank him enough– that was a given. Now, it’s the player’s *father*. Until family members bow down and kiss his… whatever there is no pleasing him. And yes, of course, the implications of Black servitude across family lines are more than intentional.

    • Dreaming Vertebrate

      Wait! I thought the bible taught “Judge not the child for the sins of the father.”
      Seems Trump is only pretending to be a Christian.
      Fake Christian!!

      • Treant

        There’s an actual Christian somewhere? I’d love to meet him or her.

        • Bj Lincoln

          He died some time ago. Since then, people have pretended but keep twisting the word to meet their needs and have become the very opposite of everything he lived for.

          • Lumpy Gaga

            Yeah, Philip. The quiet apostle who kept the faith and his nose to the grindstone, and didn’t showboat, stick any fingers in wounds, deny anybody 3 times, or whatnot.

            When the apostles were organized for service, Philip was made steward; it was his duty to see that they were at all times supplied with provisions. And he was a good steward. His strongest characteristic was his methodical thoroughness; he was both mathematical and systematic.

        • JCF
    • David Walker

      It does have that “Yassa, massa” quality, doesn’t it?

    • LaChatSayWha

      Dumpenstein getting his base riled up by complaining about those insufficiently grateful “spoiled brat” black athletes. Nauseating.

  • Max_1
  • safari
    • Treant

      Oh, man, that’s accurately icy.

      • Lazycrockett

        Only knuckledragging Drumpf supporters would claim true love between them as they do with Drumpf and Melania.

        • Todd20036

          Melania always makes a facial expression similar to someone watching a dog eat poop on the street, as soon as Twitler looks away from her.

          • Cuberly Deux

            I thought she has only one facial expression.

          • Todd20036

            Botox is not her friend

    • Lazycrockett

      and the internet has been won for the day.

    • -M-

      I’d forgotten that she was the idiot who wrote that, thankfully withdrawn, ‘my year of inspiring the dying peasants in the war torn country of Africa* with my beauty and selflessness’ book.

      *She was in Zambia, but she doesn’t appear to know Zambia isn’t where many of the things she claimed to have experienced happened.

    • Gerry Fisher

      mmm-HMMM!

  • SFBruce

    Another day, another day little Donnie lowers the bar again. He’s got plenty of time to tweet a nudge to the athletes into telling him how great he is to do what a president should do, plenty of time to go after said athletes when the father of one doesn’t grovel sufficiently, but no time at all to say one word about a candidate he’s endorsed who thinks feeling up 14-year-old girls is an OK hobby for a 30 something man.

  • Sporkfighter

    I haven’t followed this story at all, but my first question is “Were these young men being treated by the Chinese authorities as they would have treated three of their own citizens?” If the answer is yes, isn’t it inappropriate for Trump to try and intervene? Surely my local police department wouldn’t care what Xi Jinping or Donald Trump had to say about a local case of petty theft committed by Chinese students attending SDSU.

  • E.J.
    • JCF

      Doggy/Kitty friend combos are the BEST!

  • Gustav2

    This is the president of the US doing this shit.

    THIS IS NOT NORMAL!

    • -M-

      president*

  • Hank
  • Snarky

    Is it any coincidence that Trump thinks he has not been sufficiently thanked for freeing some black people from servitude? You just know he’s spending the weekend at Mar-a-Lago mumbling that he knows how Lincoln felt now.

  • BartmanLA

    He’s a CHILD! Why must we keep putting up with this petty, idiotic and dangerous behavior??? He would seriously want an American Citizen to be held in a foreign prison simply because he doesn’t like what his father said about him? Why must every one kiss this bloated bigots’ ass all the time??? Congress has articles of impeachment, DO SOMETHING! Stop this insanity now!

    • Halou

      Lock him in a room with Roy Moore!

      • KarenAtFOH

        Off with their shirts!

  • Blake J Butler
  • Pat Padrnos

    Trump must have been severely bullied as a child. He carries so much anger and he spreads it far and wide. He has become so predictable and boring.

  • AlternativeQuacks

    OT – South Carolina wants to get in on some of that Alabama action.

    https://twitter.com/RawStory/status/931955214508228613

    • Skeptical_Inquirer

      He’s angry that no women are chasing him up and down the road.

      • TuuxKabin

        They’re more likely trying to run him over in their cars.

    • djcoastermark

      okay, first thing we need to discuss here, is that horrible disfiguration he calls a mouth.

      • AlternativeQuacks

        It’s almost cartoonish, isn’t it?

      • Stogiebear

        Enormous overbite and chinless. The profile view must be stunning.

        • another_steve

          To tell you the truth, looking at that picture of him has turned me straight.

      • Menergy

        no lips, just a slit….

        • djcoastermark

          -slot !

    • This is a man who once accidentally watched a Beatles movie and mistook it for a documentary.

  • Lazycrockett

    Morrissey Defends Kevin Spacey And Harvey Weinstein, Saying Victims Should’ve Known What Could Happen

    Oh Moz.

    https://www.spin.com/2017/11/morrissey-defends-kevin-spacey-and-harvey-weinstein-saying-victims-shouldve-known-what-could-happen/

    • AlternativeQuacks

      Morrissey has been throwing out contrarian one-liners for shock effect for about a decade now. I’ve stopped paying any attention to him.

      I was more surprised to see Gay Talese defending Spacey.

    • Lumpy Gaga

      “Rock stars. Is there anything they DO know?”

  • Lazycrockett
    • Halou

      Just imagine if Abraham Lincoln behaved like Trump.

      “I mean, had Andrew Jackson been a little later you wouldn’t have had the Civil War. He was a very tough person, but he had a big heart. He was really angry that he saw what was happening with regard to the Civil War, he said, ‘There’s no reason for this,’” Trump said. “People don’t realize, you know, the Civil War, if you think about it, why? People don’t ask that question, but why was there the Civil War? Why could that one not have been worked out?”

  • bkmn

    O/T – Mrs. Betty Bowers shoots and scores

    https://twitter.com/BettyBowers/status/932318150988677120

    • Robincho

      And Deven, as usual, for the win…

  • safari
    • another_steve

      Once – only once – in my man’s and my life together have we been caregivers for more than one cat at a time. That one time, it was a gorgeous Siamese and an all-white domestic short hair.

      The Siamese considered the domestic short hair to be a complete moron (which, to be truthful, he was). They were both males but the short hair would occasionally mount the Siamese and go through the motions. Horny male cats sometimes do that.

      The Siamese was completely stoical about it.

      “Whatever. He’s a jerk, so I’ll leave him to it.”

      • Bj Lincoln

        I never had just one cat. I did have one very lazy male who came home after getting fixed and instead of sleeping off the meds he started humping every cat in the house. It was odd and very funny.

        • another_steve

          It’s not at all uncommon for cat lovers to have more than one cat at a time. Particularly when the caregivers work or are at school all day.

          The idea is for there not to be a single cat left all alone all day.

          Company.

          A play companion.

          • BobSF_94117

            The technical term is “accomplice”.

    • Treant

      Lord, people, simplify your math. It’s cat to the box power plus cat to the box power boxed. It’s not difficult.

      • David L. Caster

        The box exponential may not work that way. We would have to know more about the category whose objects are cats.

        • Treant

          And for that matter, the box domain.

    • TuuxKabin

      Sweet. Have you adopted yet? IIRC you wanted to.

      El HubCap just called from the ASPCA, asked me how I felt a bout a four year old cat with heart problems, estimated cost, $500 annual medical expenses. “Bring her home.” Her name’s Viona. Orange and gray. Feels like Christmas morning ’round here. Another life force is joining us. Viona.

      • Ragnar Lothbrok

        Yay you !

        • TuuxKabin

          Tanks Rags, if I may, it’s good to have another being here to come home to. She’s relaxed and done caught herself a mouse within two hours of movin’ in. Neighbors were here for the occasion with a bottle of champagne. It’s a peaceable kingdom. Yay you too!

      • Joe in PA

        Yay! Post pics please!

        • TuuxKabin

          Meet Bellona. Has a heart condition, Rx 2 x a day, pill form. She’s cool, calm and collected. Made her self right at home and when neighbors came up to meet her – we often ‘sit’ their Abyssinian, ‘Moz – with a bottle of champagne, Bellona showed off and caught us a mouse. Feels like Christmas. She’s kinda made the house, well, apartments, more a home.

          Here she is:

          https://www.aspca.org/nyc/aspca-adoption-center/adoptable-cats/bellona-a35075654

          • Dazzer

            She’s adorable.

          • TuuxKabin

            Yeah, thanks. And her presence is as if she’s had a long standing here. A good match. I think my blood pressure’s considerably lower by just watching her stalk about, hearing el HubCap talk to her. We’ll spend some time reading to her so she becomes accustomed to our voices. Already when one of us is talking to her the other asks, “what’s that?” Thinking we’re being spoken to. A nice period of adjustment.

          • ohbear1957

            This is Rhoda.
            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/0f686c24d6229ba615b82543407b649b222f8c1a96d3dc3faa2ec8580fe70adb.jpg
            I’m cat-sitting her for a week or so. She looks a little slutty in the picture.

          • TuuxKabin

            Rhoda prolly can’t help it, being so pretty and all. A built in trait with cats. In nine hours Bellona’s caught three mice. She’s all ready earned her keep and our appreciation. Was live at first sight. Very relaxing, having her here.

          • Joe in PA

            Thanks for the photos! What a cutie…and I bet she will turn out to have a great personality. Thank you for doing this. When she gets settled, pics in her new home please. I love that video…they really know how to work it. 🙂

          • JCF

            Pretty eyes!

    • Frostbite

      so if you close the boxes, are they dead or alive?

      • BobSF_94117

        If you close the boxes, the cats are in the closet, peeing in your shoes.

    • JCF

      I desperately hope one is named Schrodinger.

  • He is such a goddamned petty and spoiled man-baby.

  • For those who need a little encouragement today:
    https://twitter.com/davekellett/status/931934002822356992

  • Blake J Butler
    • Halou

      Here is $700, now, because of this, that, the other, and whatever line of small-print we added to the tax bill…. You owe… $1,400?
      Cough up now, or else!

    • Lumpy Gaga

      I’m really grateful for the people who have the facts, the skill and the tweet-fu to respond to this barrage of bullshit.

      • Treant

        Yeah, but you have brains. He doesn’t.

        • Bambino

          He does. But he will only use it to the advantages of benefiting his wealthy overlord and not the tax payers he serve.

          • Tor

            We serve our lords, not our servants

          • Bambino

            Not even the immortal sky fairy he swear on the bible either.

      • JackFknTwist

        These politicians treat the people with contempt and the people go out and vote for them.

        And Trump gets hysterical because black kids aren’t grateful enough to him.

        Or rather they don’t praise his ego and sugar his inferiority complex enough.
        That’s quite the f ucked up society.

      • The_Wretched

        And we’re only going to hear about more examples. But hey, if an oligarch gets $100million dollar tax break, he earned it. (/s).

    • Ben in Oakland

      If she makes $30000 a year, she’s paying taxes on roughly 15. The math doesn’t add up at all.

      • Todd20036

        She could make $500 a day and buy a new land rover if she goes to notajobscam.com

    • Bj Lincoln

      I was a single mom who made it on less than $10,000 a year. Cindy needs to live within her means and put 1/3 of her income away to cover her lose of tax breaks and Healthcare.

      • And when exactly was this? And did you depend on any federal programs to help make ends meet, like SNAP and CHIP or TANF? Because the GOPers are coming after those programs, too.

      • Lumpy Gaga

        Some fucker voted BJ down.

      • Cucker “Dick” Tarlson

        I truly hope you were being sarcastic.

        Sorry, but there’s no place in America — especially in an area with a strong economy and the best opportunities for work — that you could live on that amount without living in seriously substandard housing, a lot of financial assistance and/or family support.

        • JCF

          I’m pretty certain she is. Who could POSSIBLY put a third of her income away on $10K a year?

      • dogdadny

        Because you were homeless and living in the street – so no rent to pay, no car payment or insurance payments nonhealthy food for your kid or new cloths just what you found in those parking lot collection containers.

    • stevenj

      Wow. $700? That’s $58/month. She’ll get rich quick.

    • BEARY FLINTSTONE

      OH SHIT!

  • IAMBOWLINGQUEEN
  • Treant

    OT: This is why you do not rush to take photos of your soap after cutting. The photo way below is almost a peach color. The color post-cut by a few minutes is that pink. After ten minutes or so, it’s much more electric.

    Some hues have to oxidize to attain their full intensity. 🙂

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/548a100c35f5f053beb453fa457d9ff25942fb56ccd0fa99aa03bf69082abac2.jpg

    • Michael R

      I’m worried you don’t have enough soap at your house .

      • Treant

        Me, too! There’s only about 300 bars and rising at the moment–with another 16 on the drying rack.

        You think I should make more?

        • Michael R
        • Robincho

          If cleanliness is next to it, you must be the godliest damn motherfuckers in your whole entire zip code…

          • Treant

            Not even close. Besides, the point of ample soap is to get absolutely filthy so that you need to use it. We’re talking, your entire body by the end of the festivities resembles a glazed donut.

          • Robincho

            You bring the donut, I’ll bring the hole… 😉

          • Treant

            And we both bring the glazing?

          • Robincho

            Mo’ demmily, bro’. & when you’re done dunkin’, I think the donuts will be glazin’ themselves. You know, like donuts do…

          • Treant

            Well, sometimes. When the baker is particularly good, the donuts spontaneously glaze right in the middle of things. It can be fun or a bit problematic…

          • Steverino

            Krispy Kreme?

    • PickyPecker

      So these will be gifts?

      • Treant

        Yep, and yearly stockpile. From February through September, I can make soap but I’m usually too busy to think about it.

    • Jay George

      That’s gorgeous tho!

    • jerry

      Being raised on TV in the 60s and 70s, I can’t help picturing Granny with her kettle in the back yard, making lye soap.

      • Treant

        I’m not actually sure what the hell Granny was doing. Soap making, even the old-fashioned kind, does not stink. The modern kind smells a bit like baking, or like very light frying. It’s a pleasant and very faint odor.

        She might have been rendering fat to make into soap, but even that just smells like boiling whatever material you’re getting the fat from. Probably beef in her case, so a bit like a bland hamburger. People who render even such things as lard and tallow don’t complain about the scent.

        • jerry

          From having clients who make soap, as a hobby/craft business, I knew that wasn’t the way it was done…the image is just there. For me, though, I always have to watch what products I use…allergic to certain perfumes and scents. A lot of what’s in various laundry detergents are the worst, though I choke up immediately when someone comes in the office covered in perfume. Some scented candles are also bad.

          • Treant

            BTDT. I’m allergic to a lot of synthetic perfumes.

            I also make our own laundry soap (it’s actually quite easy and could be done with any soap that you don’t react to). There’s seven pounds of that, unscented, drying on top of my book case.

            Speaking of which, it’s time to powder it and put it in the bucket.

          • jerry

            Yeah, I have to buy the “free” detergents and fabric sheets; avoid the perfume counters in large department stores; and never, ever use a hotel complimentary soap anywhere near my face.

          • Steverino

            Ugh, I can’t stand going into gift shops that sell perfumed candles. My dad was the same way. Makes me nauseous and want to gag. I don’t think it is an allergy with me, though, just a hypersensitivity to the odor.

          • jerry

            About 15 years ago, while xmas shopping, I went to a local mall and the only parking was near the Elder Beerman. Even racing through the store, within 10 minutes I had a headache, my eyes were watering, sinuses closed off, and my hands started swelling. I avoid the small gift shops too, because of the candles/other scented items.

          • Steverino

            Yep. The Christmas season is the worst time for that. And darling hubby has a penchant for going into shops like that, not for the candles, but for the knicknacks.

        • Gretchen

          Maybe she was getting her fat from roadkill. I can’t imagine day old dead opossum smells light and airy

          • Treant

            That is possible, but possums are actually edible. They should smell a bit like boiling a bland chicken.

          • Gretchen

            I’ll take a pass on the possum, but it is specifically legal here in TN to scrape one off the road for “vittles” if you happen to hit.

      • Steverino

        My granny used to make her own lye soap, and kept a used coffee can full of lye powder to sprinkle over the fresh doo-doo in the outhouse. As I recall, her soap was pretty darn good, and smelled good without being “parfumy.”

        This was the granny who was the only family member to accept both hubby and I as a couple, and she was born in 1895! Died in 1977 at age 82. My mother’s mother.

  • -M-
    • Jean-Marc in Canada
      • Treant

        I’m not deceased yet, but I did guffaw.

      • Lazycrockett

        She is a national treasure.

      • Moebym of the Returners

        You and me both, Joy.

      • Bambino
        • Lumpy Gaga

          Perfect for too many occasions.

      • Bubba in TX

        That is not side eye. It’s FRONT eye.

        • Robincho

          In Hawai’i we call that STINKeye. It can come from either front or side…

      • Lumpy Gaga

        Glad it ended up fun. I couldn’t get that far Saturday morning. I groaned when I saw that fool’s face; knew who he was before the intros.

      • JCF

        Can somebody explain something to me: why do all Twitter GIFs (i.e., marked as “GIF”) download as mp4’s?

        I desperately want Joy’s shocked face, above, as a GIF. But that’s not what I’ve got.

    • JAKvirginia

      Again… someone needs to explain Freedom of Speech to BillO. Sigh….

      • another_steve

        Please say more re your meaning, JAK.

        As long as Hannity doesn’t overtly incite violence, his right to speak is as sacred as yours and mine.

        • Max_1

          Is the big bad voodoo Gubbermint coming after Sean?
          …Didn’t think so.

          Bill’doh is a blow hard…

          • another_steve

            Hannity and O’Reilly are buffoons. Clowns. They have a “shtick” and they’re milking it.

            As my dear mama would say (such a good woman, may she rest in peace), “laughing all the way to the bank.”

        • SoCalGal20

          He can speak all he wants but no private business is obligated to provide him a platform. The First Amendment applies to GOVERNMENT curbing speech. It has nothing to do with non-government entities.

          • another_steve

            I understand the ethical mandate not to curb or suppress non-violent speech more broadly than solely in terms of what the First Amendment of the United States Constitution says or does not say.

            A civilized people do not curb or suppress speech solely on the basis that it is heinous or unpopular speech. A civilized people do not do that.

            Speech that overtly incites violence, yes.

            But not speech that is merely heinous or unpopular.

          • SoCalGal20

            And, again, Sean Hannity is not ENTITLED to a show on Fox or any other network, nor is he ENTITLED to a book publishing deal, nor is he ENTITLED to a radio show, nor are other people required to book him on their shows. Sean Hannity can say whatever he wants and the companies that currently employ him are not obligated to continue to employ him outside of any contractual obligation they may have.

          • another_steve

            Agree.

            I’m merely suggesting that the censoring of non-violent speech because the censors consider the speech heinous or unpopular is wrong.

            Ethically wrong.

          • BobSF_94117

            If they find the speech wrong — I mean factually wrong — why should they continue to support unethical speech?

          • another_steve

            I’m speaking out of (what I consider to be) an ethical construct, Bob.

            If you’re in favor of the “airing of opinion,” in theory you give time and license to all views. Not just the views you like or the views that keep them watching through the next Cialis commercial, but all views.

            You and I don’t have to listen to or give equal weight to all views. I don’t. I never watch Fox News.

            Nevertheless, I want there to be a Fox News.

          • BobSF_94117

            No one needs to give equal weight to propaganda and lies. Quite the opposite.

          • another_steve

            “Eye of the beholder,” Bob. You’re attributing “truth and beauty” to our way of thinking/speaking. Others see it differently.

            Tony Perkins, Franklin Graham and Co. think you and I propagate propaganda and lies.

          • LaChatSayWha

            That’s right: it’s market forces at work. The governing principle most admired by conservative shitstains like BillO.

  • Michael R
  • Taylor Bixler
  • Paula

    I think that if Trump was responsible for this, he would tried to take them out of China when he left. There is no way he would have missed this publicity opportunity.
    His ego would not let it happen.

    • another_steve

      ^^ That that that.

      Astute observation, Paula.

  • Leo

    I didn’t know MMFA’s Angelo Carusone was gay?! Nice side-bar. You wanna know the man in the deepest trenches of the media landscape war it’s this guy. Worth watching the whole thing. Hannity’s lost his shit as the advertiser boycott’s actually making a dent.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=343&v=fsm8PucxSJs

  • MikeBx2
  • JackFknTwist

    Black Kids not grateful enough !

    Now I will scream and scream and make myself sick.

  • coram nobis

    Here’s more Donald pettiness: White House $44 billion disaster relief package included no funding for Northern California fire victims. Zero. Nada.

    http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Local-congressmen-outraged-that-Trump-provides-no-12368751.php

    California members of Congress have until mid-December — when the current government funding agreement expires — to secure the wildfire relief money. The clock is ticking, Huffman said, and he and other Democrats are still trying to rally support among their Republican colleagues.

    • TuuxKabin

      sons. of. bitches. gop.

      • coram nobis

        Something to remember in next year’s congressional races. Seven GOP California seats are tossups. They’re subject to fire and quake as well.

        Rep. Ed Royce of Fullerton (Orange County) was the only one of the state’s 13 Republican members of Congress to sign Brown’s letter with the $7.4 billion request.
        — story

        • TuuxKabin

          As transplanted from SF to NYC, my heart, and liver, are still there. Thanks for the update.

          • Menergy

            and as a transplant from SF to Santa Fe, me too, in many ways.

          • TuuxKabin

            Two areas surrounded by nature’s beauty. Nice.

  • Kevin Andrews

    The Players are absolute idiots but the Shitgibbon is a malignant narcissist without any value period. Charge the bastard with Treason and entertain us by hanging in the Capital Basin. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8f6c2ac98fc1f60da04cdd60143df7d63046de6ef34b87bfb0fcd150bb2874d0.png

    • another_steve

      LMAO.

      I own a collection of very early (1950s) Superman comic books.

      Obey me, bitches.

      Someday I’ll be rich and famous.

  • orion dumptee

    diplomatic finesse from prez

    • another_steve

      From the purported Leader of the Free World.

      Heaven help us all.

      • orion dumptee

        so true,Steve…so true..my sentiments exactly (sigh,weep)

  • gaycuckhubby
  • netxtown

    Now let me get this right. Roy Moore has molested at least 5 underage girls – and Trump says nothing.

    But the father of one black man doesn’t bow down and ‘thank’ his fat white ass – and he’s an ingrate???

    If only that father would have been white…..

    I’m so goddamned sick of this racist, sexist, bigoted bastard. Even if he was vaped to oblivion this very second – it still wouldn’t be soon enough.

    • another_steve

      Perhaps aliens from another galaxy will seize and experiment on him.

      Determine what makes him orange.

      • Gianni

        Perhaps the aliens can explain how two human parents ever begat the thing.

        • OdieDenCO

          dominate greed gene, recessive moral gene in both parents. sad!

      • JT

        Maybe it’s already happened and he’s undergone an anal probe.
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53uVisEj_Hw

      • Steverino

        another_steve to Jared: “Take me to Uranus.”
        ; )

        • another_steve

          Jared has an exquisite Jew tush.

          My heeb brothers and sisters who are into male Jew tush will grok.

          • Steverino

            Jared Tushner?

  • orion dumptee

    christ !! ‘shoulda left them in jail”?? this is the way our pres talks?? what a class act…I TRULY WEEP for our country

  • HZ81

    I can’t wait until he is in jail.

  • Willys41

    Yeah, I can just hear that conversation:

    “Trump wants us to release basketball players.”
    “The dottering old fool wants what now?”
    “We caught them shoplifting.”
    “OK, release the basketball players so he has something to brag about. And cancel that phone call to Pyongyang.”

  • righteous mob

    Today In Trumpian Petty Assholery has become the headline of every day in America.

    • octobercountry

      Sadly true…. sigh…

  • JT

    Traitor says what?

    • Dreaming Vertebrate

      Something about “should be left in jail.”

  • MikeBx2
    • another_steve

      You go, gurl!

    • JT

      Drumpf is neither good, nor a leader. And he’s certainly not a good leader.

    • Blake J Butler

      Cute, now give us all the information you have on baby huey, and disappear from the face of the earth.

      He’s another big reason why we don’t have Hillary as president, with his finger on the scale.

      • another_steve

        Yes. He represents a very fucked-up episode in our fucked-up American history.

        I’ll be dead by then, but I hope future historians explain him for us.

        • Steverino

          Comey Comey Comey Comey Comey Chameleon…

    • Boreal

      Fuck Comey. He threw the election to dump and now has regrets.

      • MikeBx2

        I’m no fan of Comey but I like the shade he’s throwing.

    • Ninja0980

      Man who put his thumb on the scale says what?

    • Treant

      Eh, thanks and all, but now that you destroyed Hillary, destroy Trump and I might regain a little respect for you.

      • Steverino

        Maybe he can yet at least partially redeem himself.

        • Treant

          It’s been a year, we’re still waiting. I’m thinking he just doesn’t want to be remembered as “the guy who helped cheat Dumpster into office.”

          If so…too late.

  • Gianni

    Aww, the President’s covfefees got hurt. They didn’t gush over him enough and heap the proper amount praise on him. His lack of manners and juvenile behavior have no bottom level. Me, me, me, it must be all about me or I get hurt and then I have to say nasty things about and attack the citizens of my country. Donnie is the perpetual occupant of an imaginary 5th grade schoolyard. He wasn’t spanked enough as a child.

  • Ninja0980

    Lake effect snow warning here, our first one of the season!

  • Cuberly Deux

    OT: Appears full-time sociopath Peter Theil is out at Y Combinator. A lot of startups in silly valley probably let out a sigh of relief.

    “Y Combinator Quietly Ends Relationship With Peter Thiel”
    https://gizmodo.com/y-combinator-quietly-ends-relationship-with-peter-thiel-1820558242

    Oh, and his investment in a herpes vaccine that was using human test subjects instead of following FDA and HHS guidelines has turned into a nightmare. Some of the test subjects have had horrible long term side-effects. The project is shut down, the man in charge of it died of cancer and nobody knows how the vaccine was made and what exactly was in it. The whole enterprise is now being investigated.

    SIU professor’s quest for herpes cure leads to ‘rogue’ trial on Caribbean island
    http://www.chicagotribune.com/lifestyles/health/ct-herpes-vaccine-rogue-trial-20171101-story.html

    University could lose millions from “unethical” research backed by Peter Thiel
    With nudge from federal regulators, an internal investigation found big problems.
    https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/11/university-could-lose-millions-from-unethical-research-backed-by-peter-thiel/

    • Boreal

      I hope he can be sued.

      • Cuberly Deux

        If anyone’s sued it’d probably be the university.

      • Refugay

        Does New Zealand have extradition?

    • Treant

      What the fuck?

      • Cuberly Deux

        It was supposed to be a vanity project, against those onerous gov regulations and procedures. It basically turned into a cruel failure.

        • NZArtist

          I wonder why he’s so desperate to find a herpes cure….

          • Cuberly Deux

            Which of his investments are/were purely out of self-interest and which were just lucky draw successes?

        • Treant

          It’s the whole “nobody knows what the vaccine contains” thing that would really worry me. Proper scientists keep good notes.

          Screw that. Home soap makers keep better notes.

          • Cuberly Deux

            From what I’m reading they don’t even have samples of it to test. To try and figure out what’s in it and what could be causing the bad side-effects.

            Every aspect of this whole experiment is a picture perfect example of why regulating procedures are necessary.

          • Treant

            +1. I’d rather live where it takes 10 years to approve a vaccine. And even then, we have problems; I’m immunized against Lyme’s, but it was pulled immediately after my third round. It caused rheumatoid arthritis in a small percentage of people.

        • -M-

          Which is why we have those regulations in the first place.

          • Cuberly Deux

            Yep. Unfortunately Thiel’s libertarian adolescent attitude is rife in silly valley. He’s not alone.

  • Tatonka

    Trump only wants to help Americans if he gets his dick sucked.

    • William

      Publicly describing his glorious achievements in glowing terms better suited to Kim Il Sung also works.

    • Treant

      Can you really get your dick sucked when you’re completely impotent?

  • Treant

    @Skeptical_inquirer suggested this. Pardon the drips, they’re currently extremely caustic and I don’t clean them up until they turn to soap.

    It’s Red #30 balanced with iron oxide (rust) and just the tiniest dusting of black (iron oxide rust, different formula). The scent is peppermint primary, just a tad of evergreen, and a drop of musk to anchor the scent.

    The top pattern is a modified figure eight circling Taiwan swirl. The internal is red intrusions into white, poured fairly thick. Peppermint candy, no, but reminiscent of it!

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/aaf1cd3b4333de0378079e1fac6916e3baeab48b853de46042958d2420fd8a97.jpg

    • worstcultever

      Swirlacious!

    • Refugay

      I have often wondered, so please allow me to most respectfully inquire, just how dirty are your guests?! 😉

      • Treant

        After the Wesson wrestling and outdoor frolicking, filthy. They’re dirty, dirty men.

        But seriously, my nieces and sister-in-law won’t use my soap (they prefer lab-processed chemicals in a body wash where you use ten times more than you need and throw the rest away). Most of my friends won’t use anything *but* my soap.

        • Refugay

          I honestly find your soap posts refreshing. Thanks for the education on a subject I knew nothing about.

          • Treant

            Most tell me my posts are cleansing. But OK. 🙂

            Hey, we all have odd hobbies. I cannot imagine why we don’t see what people make when they wood-work, or sew, or knit, or whatever it is folks do.

        • Snarkaholic

          Considering how much soap you make, you must have thousands of friends!

    • Dreaming Vertebrate

      We dinos never bathe.
      Would you be able to make something similar in strawberry ice cream??

      • Treant

        Quite possibly, there’s an entire line of food-appearing and food-scented soaps. Regrettably, this is illegal in some European nations, but the US has no problems with it.

        https://www.favorsandflowers.com/images/P/ice-cream-towel-favor.jpg

        • Natty Enquirer

          Illegal because stupid children will try to eat them?

          • Treant

            Precisely. We should point out that soap is non-toxic unless the fragrance or an additive is toxic. I use beet root extract and honey in most soaps, which is edible, and non-toxic fragrance.

          • Dreaming Vertebrate

            Same problem with Tide detergent pods.

          • Treant

            Whereas you can eat soap. And mice and rats frequently do, so we have to store it somewhere where those are rare. 🙂

          • -M-

            Like a dino preserve.

          • Treant

            Something like! But mice and rats don’t want to be fed, they want to hunt.

      • JohnJay

        OT… I was wondering if you have one of those little T-Rex optical illusion cut outs? I just thought of it as I am working in my kitchen, and I have one that watches me as I move around. In case you don’t know of it, here is a link:

        https://www.inkntoneruk.co.uk/ink-cartridge-news/print-your-own-amazing-t-rex-illusion/

    • Friday

      And here I’m usually trying to get rust *off* my hands with soap. 🙂

      • Treant

        Try a high-coconut mix. 🙂

        Seriously, though, black, red, and yellow “natural” (they’re lab-created because natural colorants have lots of heavy metal contaminants) colorants are all iron oxide in a variety of forms. And they’re so powerful that a pinch per pound is all that’s required!

        • Friday

          Hee, there’s a general rule of ‘like dissolves like,’ but I don’t think that applies to minerals. 🙂 Actually I usually use Fast Orange or some Mary Kay apricot scrub that’s been around a long time, (very similar things, actually) I dunno, maybe you could find that lady-mechanic market. 🙂

          (It’s funny, a friend brought me some rusty bodywork hammers and dollies, I was buzzing the rust off those just today. :))

  • William
  • SoCalGal20

    Eric Trump apparently can’t let his brother have all the stupid comments.

    https://twitter.com/thehill/status/932337953468223488

    • Refugay

      He’s the smart one. Cough…

      • William

        Eric’s stupider than a doorstop.

        • -M-

          So are the others.

          And so far I haven’t heard of any evidence linking Eric directly to money laundering or conspiracy with foreign spies.

          • Reality.Bites

            It’s like the final episode of Mary Tyler Moore when Ted’s the only one not fired.

          • William

            Eric tried money laundering, he broke the washing machine.

        • Reality.Bites
    • Treant

      Odo croaks what?

    • Dreaming Vertebrate

      Eric, dear child; your father is a rabid lunatic.

      • Reality.Bites

        Well not compared to his sons.

    • OdieDenCO

      is the sour look on donny face cause erik is tieless or does he always look like he’s smelling farts?

      • Friday

        He probably always is, being such an ass all the time. 🙂

    • Cuberly Deux

      Is Eric trying to deflect the spotlight away from Jr?

      Jr is sort of up shit creek at the moment.

      • jerry

        And poor Jared…new evidence of him lying to Congress is out. He had previously denied any contact with Wikileaks.

    • Michael R

      If they’re sending out Eric they’re out of ammunition .

    • JT

      When did they let Eric out of the crypt?

    • RoFaWh

      By inoculation???

    • UrsusArctos 🐻

      Qusay says what?

    • JCF
  • JT

    Maybe even in China or North Korea.
    https://i.imgur.com/r5x9NeE.jpg

  • Beth Sanders

    These brats can be so ungreatful!

    In Christ,
    Beth

  • Lazycrockett
    • JT

      Oh, shit!

  • gaycuckhubby
    • gaycuckhubby

      Anyone who decides to be in the public eye for any reason is insane.

  • jerry

    New hit song “Come back Barack”:

    https://www.instagram.com/p/BbrxL-VA1lV/

  • NowAnAgnostic

    Long ago I worked with a lady who could not stand her boss. She told me she would sometimes daydream about what she would wear to his funeral. Just sayin.

    • Treant

      We all do that. I’ve gone so far as to fantasize about the fact that I use syringes to handle propylene glycol, have tons of potassium chloride in the garage for plant feeding, and know how to cobble up a release spring that will fire when you sit down on the needle.

      And I have a really nice tie for the funeral, too.

    • Reality.Bites

      One time when my trainer was reminding me to keep breathing while lifting I pictured her at my funeral telling everyone “I told him to keep breathing. He wouldn’t listen”

  • Max_1
    • Natty Enquirer

      Always the plight of a Vice-President.

      • Max_1

        Is that like:
        Always a bridesmaid, never a bride?

        Now, some VP’s are good enough to become brides…
        But most, like Pence, think that since you spell bigtoe with an ‘e’ the same goes for po-tay-toe.

  • SoCalGal20

    Rufus Gifford is running for Congress in MA-3! He was Obama’s ambassador to Denmark and there was a documentary series made about his first year there. It’s on Netflix and worth checking out. It’s called I Am The Ambassador. Oh, and he’s gay.

    https://twitter.com/rufusgifford/status/930067731990401024

    • Treant

      I’m shallow. I read his feed down to,

      “I really don’t care what people call me…”

      And my snap response was to reply, “How about fuckable? Because I’d certainly call you fuckable.”

      • SoCalGal20

        LOL

      • gaycuckhubby

        It’s cute and campy because we’re gay.
        Tell a straight friend to say that on twitter about a female candidate. Bet you they will be put on blast imediately 🙂
        #justsaying

        Also, I agree with you! He’s totally doable

        • SoCalGal20

          Context matters.

          • gaycuckhubby

            ? I’m eager to learn 🙂

          • SoCalGal20

            Saying something amongst friends or a group of people on, say, JMG is one thing. Saying something like, “Wow, you’re totally fuckable” to a coworker or some stranger (stranger includes celebrities, politicians, etc) is not appropriate imo.

            I have had guys say things to me that they apparently thought were compliments and just fine and it just made them come off as a creeper. The whole “nice guy” MRA thing is built on cringey interactions with women.

          • gaycuckhubby

            I get what your saying. And agree

            I think it’s a messy but important time in our culture when it comes to sex and sexuality.

            Women are calling out straight men for behavior that is pretty common among gay men. And we’re kinda sitting on the sidelines trying to figure out what it means for us.

          • gaycuckhubby

            Also, do straight men have communities like this? Seems like we shame them for “lockerroom talk”

          • SoCalGal20

            I don’t know about communities like this where they hang out and talk about politics and social issues (yes, there are communities like r/The_Donald but I’m talking normal social interaction). My sphere of straight guys have some social groups like gaming (both real life and like WoW), playing/watching sports (basketball, soccer, etc), maybe a hobby-related group of some sort, that kind of thing. I’d be surprised if lockerroom talk never came up, but there’s a difference between talking with the guys about how hot some actress is or whatever and going to a restaurant and telling the server how hot you think she is, for example.

          • gaycuckhubby

            Completely agree

        • Treant

          Oh, I’d never say it; it’s tacky and inappropriate. But other than that, you’re kind of right.

          I kind of prefer the shorthand my husband and I have when we’re In The Mood. You simply take off your clothes, head into the other office, and grunt, “Naked. Bedroom. Now.”

          • gaycuckhubby

            Simple and to the point!

  • Mickey Bitsko

    He’s saying the son should be punished for what his father did? Paging Doctor Freud!

  • safari
    • SoCalGal20

      Party of Lincoln woohoo!!!!!

    • RoFaWh

      One of Trump’s fundamental (and incurable) misunderstandings about the Presidency is the belief that it’s a podium for bitching and moaning about his personal issues.

      It isn’t, Donnie 2S.

  • Max_1

    O/T:
    But it’s never, EVER when Ms. Tweeden gropes…

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DPBf-_OVwAArtpy.jpg

    • Jean-Marc in Canada
      • OdieDenCO

        yeah, but the dude wanted it. just look at the way he is dressed, all sexy and all.
        /s icymi

        • Reality.Bites

          Yeah, well People would probably name him second sexiest man alive.

        • -M-

          In fairness:

          1) That could have been a staged part of the act that the guy was okay with.

          2) Even if it’s not, two wrongs don’t make a right.

    • another_steve

      The Franken thing is a huge right-wing scam that the media bought into without question.

      Girl, it’s been revealed, is a rightwing shill. She’s been all over Fox News. She’s done softcore porn – a perfectly okay thing to do, but after which it’s a wee bit difficult to argue that men should not “touch.”

      What Franken did was tasteless. Men are pigs.

      We men sometimes do tasteless things.

      • -M-

        Mm… I have doubts about Tweeden’s story, but you can’t write off the possibility that her allegations are true just because she’s a rwnj or porn model or took part in real or mock groping herself.

        • another_steve

          Me thinks we’re in a bit of a – shall we say – “hysterical interlude” vis-à-vis stupid or inappropriate sexual contact.

          What Franken did was stupid. Very stupid. But his accuser has been part of the sex industry and has prospered financially from men lusting after her. This is qualitatively different than the Roy Moore episodes.

          Unwanted sexual contact is always wrong, period.

          But let’s all maintain our intellectual bearing, shall we?

          • -M-

            All we know Franken did is the picture. Which, depending on details we don’t know, ranges in severity anywhere from humiliating prank, through thoughtless borish ‘humor’, to a silly if tacky staged picture that she was in on. It could be any of those or anywhere in between.

            The kiss would also be wrong but no one else reports Franken doing such to them and that story also has some holes. She could have told him how she wanted to play it and then they run through what they would do before rehearsing it. But again that doesn’t prove that she’s lying either.

    • boobert

      That just proves it took 11 years and a job with fox for her to realize how outraged she was. So who’s idea was it to attack a liberal senator? How about investigate that !

      • Michael R

        Self described dirty trickster Roger Stone tweeted
        about it before it happened , so I’ve assumed there’s
        more to the story that will come out .

    • boobert

      She’s got a few more hours before she’s proven a phony ! Groping AND kissing. leeann, you got some splainin’ to do ! https://twitter.com/PromoteMyCause/status/931967228085497856

  • Paula

    Has anyone ever been this presidential? /s

    • safari

      Even President Camacho in Idiocracy is a superior person.

    • Max_1
    • gaycuckhubby

      Fuck. At this point Palin would be a step up.

      • Reality.Bites

        ^
        Folks the really scary part is he means Bristol.

        • gaycuckhubby

          Lol

          • Reality.Bites

            Not to mention Rick Santorum’s mason jar baby.

  • Sam

    I may have missed it, but was there any proof beyond Trumps gloating that he actually had anything to do with their release? It seems more likely to me that Trump swooped in and took credit after his PR team learned of the situation and confirmed that their release was expected.

    • another_steve

      Oh my… you’re being sane and rational, Sam.

      Please stop that.

      The rest of us are drunk by now.

  • gaycuckhubby
    • safari

      This means absolutely nothing to me.

      • gaycuckhubby

        Stranger Things jokes 🙂

        • Treant

          It works for D&D players as well.

      • another_steve

        I don’t get it either.

    • Treant

      AAAARRRRGGGGHHHH!

      What’s a succubus’ favorite perfume? Obsession, of course…

  • TexasBoy

    In other words, LiAngelo’s dad did not get down on his knees in tears and carry on for an hour thanking, praising and worshiping at the Altar of The Donald incessantly.

    • safari

      Not praising while black.

  • justme

    Poor Donnie..
    Nobody told him that being president is a thank-less job…

    No ratings..

    • Reality.Bites

      It wasn’t, when everyone else did it.

  • Max_1
    • Cuberly Deux

      He’s rather Mugabe-esque isn’t he.

      • BobSF_94117

        Maybe we can pack them both off to the South of France. Roomies!!!

        • -M-

          France has some atolls where they tested nuclear weapons.

  • Reality.Bites

    Meanwhile, in SaneTwitterWorld…

    https://twitter.com/JustinTrudeau/status/932326227955793920

    From Canadian Press:

    Canadians who were criminally charged or fired from the military or Canada’s civil service because of their sexual orientation will receive a formal apology from the prime minister before the end of month.

    Prime Minister Justin Trudeau confirmed on Twitter on Sunday that an apology in the House of Commons is coming Nov. 28 for historic wrongs committed against Canadians because they were gay, lesbian, bisexual or transgendered.

    A national security purge led to the firing of thousands of Canadians in the military, RCMP and public service because of their sexual orientation starting in the 1950s.

    Also, prior to 1966, many Canadians were criminally charged and convicted of gross indecency because they were gay.

    Last year, Egale Canada recommended an apology to those Canadians and Trudeau promised he would do so.

    On November 28, he will make good on that promise, and by the end of the year expects to introduce legislation to issue pardons to anyone who was convicted because of consensual sexual activity with same-sex partners.

  • David Walker

    I realize that hindsight is always 20/20, but why did you, the internationally acknowledged fucking moron, not offer to change places with them?

    • Treant

      It would certainly put him closer to Russia and the dacha that Putin will give him on the Black Sea. With hot and cold running polonium.

    • JT

      He’s a chickenshit coward. That’s why.

  • SoCalGal20

    I haven’t read this yet but it should be a good read. New article from WaPo.

    https://twitter.com/johnjharwood/status/932371535410683908

    • Treant

      Here’s hoping there’s no actual contact between Cobb and Mueller or I’ll be forced to shift from neutral back into “Mueller’s Been Paid Off” mode.

      • SoCalGal20

        Mueller’s flipping people left and right. He’s going after Trump and, hopefully, Pence.

        • Treant

          Neutral. We’ll see, an orchestrated cover-up would have an identical viewable cross-section to the public. Otherwise the theater doesn’t ring true.

          Oh, you’re probably right, but given the sheer level of Republican malfeasance, I’m not taking any bets at all. The treason goes deep, wide, and long, and the ability to threaten anybody’s life, or their family’s lives, is also very pervasive.

  • Tony Adams

    Disgusting. All around.

  • gaycuckhubby
    • Treant

      I’m waiting for “Mueller” to get caught on “indictment” arresting his “large” “orange” “ass.”

      Seriously, what is it with this guy and the incorrect scare quotes, petty names, and complete lack of insight?

    • SoCalGal20

      Oh, that’s a good way to get his (and other swing) votes.

      (Also, it’s mic unless there’s a new GOP scandal I’m unaware of).

    • bzrd

      what did he say about President Obama?

    • -M-

      Caught on Mike? Any comment from Mrs. Flake(y)?

      • SoCalGal20

        Which Mike? Mike Lee?

    • JT

      Whose favorite? Shit for brains morons?

      • canoebum

        That just shows exactly who the tweets are intended to influence…the Cult of Deplorables. All the sane and rational people know he’s a fucking idiot. Only his idiot followers are stupid enough to take his bullshit seriously.

    • MikeBx2

      Jeff Flake yesterday making it clear he was not “caught”…
      https://twitter.com/JeffFlake/status/931982049505812480

      • Treant

        Yet he’s still going to vote to reaffirm Dumpy’s Supreme Court and Federal court picks.

    • coram nobis

      Bad things about our favorite President? Really? What did he say about Harry Truman?

  • If you do a good deed for the gratitude, then rethink your motivation.

  • BobSF_94117

    Seems like it’s Dick Sunday. Dicks all around. Everybody’s being a dick.

    Kids? Dicks.
    Dad? Dick.
    Trump? You need to ask?

  • BJORN RAGNVALDR

    I think I’m supposed to put down the tablet now, so good evening to all. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/0e8b7ec23042e45e2dbfd40a7f28d17eea173db50a4e4fd56efb8603274bdc1c.jpg

  • JT
  • jerry

    O/T: Interesting article about (possible) links in domestic violence, specifically choking/strangulation, and later homicide or mass murder:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/which-domestic-abusers-will-go-on-to-commit-murder-this-one-act-offers-a-clue/2017/11/16/80881ebc-c978-11e7-aa96-54417592cf72_story.html?utm_term=.2168d5140650

  • Blake J Butler

    Transparent is over, Tambor is leaving the show.

    • gaycuckhubby

      Yeah. I think they will try to continue for another season but Im guessing it will fold

      • Reality.Bites

        I believe the next was to be the last anyway.

  • MikeBx2

    Seriously. Somebody help me understand why he does this? Before my head explodes!
    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/932392209445457920

    • DaddyRay

      I find it comforting not being able to understand Trump

      • MikeBx2

        That’s true.

    • safari
    • Treant

      Being uppity while black, I guess.

      So, Donnie, if shoplifting should be a really big deal, what do you think traitors should have happen to them?

      (There’s a fairy tale like that…)

    • boobert

      The simple answer is that’ he’s insane, because daddy didn’t love him.

    • JT

      He’s extremely insecure, as well he should be. He senses that he doesn’t deserve anything he has, with good reason. Consequently, he cannot brook criticism of any kind, and imagines slights everywhere, even if none exist. He cannot accept that he is ever in the wrong because that would open the flood gates to the realization that he is almost never in the right.

    • MikeBx2
    • another_steve

      I’m a former New Yorker. Born and raised there. Left at age 26. I think I know this stuff.

      Donald Trump is New York City born and bred mob-connected thug and thief.

      Heaven help us… With the help of the Russians, the deplorables elevated this thing to the highest position in the land.

      • gaycuckhubby

        Ding! Ding! Ding!

      • canoebum

        You don’t build much in New York City without dealing with the mob. Unions fixes, concrete deliveries, garbage pick ups, permits…he knows all those guys and has been paying them for decades. To avoid paying or to keep the vig low, I’m sure he’s done them lots and lots of favors. He’s up to his neck in mob ties.

      • UrsusArctos 🐻

        Don’t forget, the Russian mafia keeps the old NY mafioso awake at night knowing their days are numbered by tougher thugs. 45* is screwed ay way you cut it.

        • another_steve

          That’s more perceptive of you than you might know, UA.

          Beginning in the 1960s and 1970s, the Russian mob became a presence in NYC. Old Brooklynites reading here may be familiar with Brighton Beach in Brooklyn.

          Just one example.

    • Lazycrockett

      Must be a rainy day in DC.

    • Lazycrockett

      I haven’t really dived into this, but what did the father not say that sent asshole into a night terror?

      • MikeBx2

        I think this is an exact quote: “What was he over there for? Don’t tell me nothing. Everybody wants to make it seem like he helped me out”

    • OdieDenCO

      bad donny! you do not abuse your power!

    • -M-

      His fans are called deplorables for a reason.

      • Tor

        Since when does a president have fans, not constituents?

    • Robincho

      So he’s gonna rethink the whole cupid bullet necklace stunt thing?…

  • Priya Lynn

    For the first time ever I’m siding with Trump – those guys would have been fucked if he hadn’t intervened.

    • safari

      Except they all thanked him.

      Donald is complaining because one of their father’s didn’t thank him.

      • safari

        And even if that was the case, it’s still terrible for the President to play “I’ll pick and choose who gets free based on how they feel about me.”

        • -M-

          And come on, three American basketball players? I kinda think they’d have released them if Chachi had asked.

      • Treant

        Stop! You’re making sense!

        Also, diplomacy and whether you go free or not should always depend on whether you suck the “president’s” dick, don’t you think? I mean, that’s not dictatorial or anything.

      • Lazycrockett

        What did cousin Roy have to say on this matter??

    • JT

      That’s bullshit.

    • Robincho

      Oh please. Dumpy didn’t do dick…

  • coram nobis

    Making the rounds on the internet (not mine, unfort.):

    There once was a man, Papadopoulos,
    Who was trying to help Russia topple us:
    But now that he’s squealing
    We hope he’s revealing
    The truth, so the horrors will STOPoulos.

    Could be verse.

    • Treant

      “Mueller is now on year two*…

      * I know

      • coram nobis

        … with perpetrators up the kazoo …

        • canoebum

          We can only hope he goes full Oprah on their traitorous asses: an indictment for you, an indictment for you…indictments for everybody!!!

    • TuuxKabin

      Could be. But it’s not.

    • Tor

      Close. Now make it a haiku.

  • TexasBoy

    So Trump expected a…Oh lordy lord, Thank You Massah Donald, Thank You fo’ savin’ my po’ boy, Massa Donald?

    • DaddyRay

      Exactly, it is the responsibility of any POTUS to look out for American citizens – ALL American Citizens

      • worstcultever

        Srsly! I thought Bill Kristol (!!) put it pretty well

        https://twitter.com/BillKristol/status/932327413807271936

        • MikeBx2

          This!

        • Cuberly Deux

          He’s been spot-on as a never-trumper. The Moore fiasco has him quite freaked out. If the GOP seats Moore, the party is kaput. Steve Schmidt and others are of the same opinion.

          • UrsusArctos 🐻

            I’m STILL having a hard time witnessing a useless sack of human(?) flesh like Kristol actually caring about democracy following on all the work he did to weaken it during the “W” years.

          • Cuberly Deux

            It’s interesting to listen to the never-trumpers. They do seem to have a collective case of amnesia. The people that served us up a dose of Palin, swiftboated Kerry….etc…

    • JT

      Followed by a “Sieg Heil.”

  • safari

    “How do I get biglier ratings?”
    “Threaten elephants and then stop threatening them and then claim you won’t be pressured to threaten them yet again.”
    “Brilliant”
    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/932397369655808001

    • Lazycrockett

      Its very simple, if you can’t bring home the trophy why get one.

  • gaycuckhubby
    • Gregory In Seattle

      Only if they are black.

    • Treant

      Yes, Nate, and also that traitors should be President.

  • worstcultever
  • What an inveterate prick.

  • gaycuckhubby
    • BJORN RAGNVALDR

      I hope that cat isn’t driving, he’s drunk, walk home cat.

    • Friday

      Kitty’s leaning like, “Yeah, it’s just a little Renault, but dogs can’t catch ‘er :)”

  • Blake J Butler
    • JT

      IMPOTUS is feeling the heat.

    • Treant

      Nothing much, I’m thinking, beyond the usual. He’s losing it more and more often as time goes on and the job doesn’t get any easier. Harder, in fact, because he’s ignoring most of it until it turns into a crisis.

      • Tor

        Haha. I read your last sentence as “until it turns into a cruise.”

    • coram nobis

      Maybe the Mugabes owe him something and aren’t in a position to pay off now.

  • gaycuckhubby
    • DaddyRay

      Only white men can criticize there President (and other Democratic Presidents)

    • worstcultever

      I think it’s ALL just tossing racist dog-treats to the cultists

    • Blake J Butler

      Black men, women, leftists, etc. mixtures of the groups together. Basically anyone that isn’t a white, straight, male, praying to a proper right wing god, he doesn’t defend them.

      Well, he doesn’t anyways, they are still pawns in his game, they just don’t get bombarded with tweets like the above groups on a daily basis.

  • BeaverTales

    Dump is a graceless asshole, but at least did his job. The shoplifting assholes should show gratitude and humility for turning a trip of a lifetime into an international incident.

    I tend to agree that these 3 clowns would have gotten their just desserts had the president done nothing at all.

    I’ve dated enough of these ballers to know that their huge egos and sense of entitlement barely leaves room for air when you share a room with them. Public shaming is the bare minimum punishment.

    • gaycuckhubby

      10 years in prison? Really?

    • coram nobis

      Fair enough, although for Donald to take time from his presidential schedule for this trivia seems small-minded. He could have left it to Sarah Bumblebee Sanders or maybe the talking blonde heads at Fox to do the tut-tutting.

      • BeaverTales

        I have two things to say about this:

        [1]I’m certain these are not the first or last Americans to shoplift in China. Shoplifters don’t get televised press conferences when caught in China or anywhere else.

        Elite athletes often think they should get a free pass the rest of us don’t get. I grew up with one. I think they need to be treated like everyone else. If I had gotten arrested in China, we wouldn’t have heard a single word about it while I spent months sitting in a Chinese prison.

        [2]The tut-tutting is par for the course from Fox. Asking them to not promote racist stereotypes is like asking a bear not to shit in the woods…Stereotypes based on ethnicity and sexual orientation are endemic around the world, but reinforced by Fox when it suits them.

        Actions have consequences. When you are part of a disliked minority, you have responsibilities to your community when you are honored with a free trip as an international ambassador (yes, being flown to China with your team is a fucking honor).

        I’m a black American. When black folk behave badly, they make most of us in the black community feel as frustrated and angry as many in the gay community feel when gays commit stupid stereotyped crimes like stupid sexual indiscretions.

        • Tor

          My only question is why these privileged (I don’t care what color) people had to shoplift.

      • Tor

        Nothing is too small-minded for the Orangeman.

    • Treant

      The three gentlemen did show gratitude–not that it’s required as the President should do his job with or without thanks. Dumpy’s grating on about one of the fathers who’s less than thrilled with Dumpy himself.

      • Tor

        You forget the theory of the christian god. He loves everyone unconditionally, on the conditions that they thank him, ask for forgiveness, confess, and grovel

    • MikeBx2

      “I would like to thank President Trump and the United States government for the help that they’ve provided as well,” LiAngelo Ball said in a press conference on Wednesday.

      • coram nobis

        How much of it was the embassy’s legwork? Over how many days?

    • Tor

      This story is new to me…… even now. There there three basketballers (on an apparently paid trip) stupid enough to shoplift in China? I don’t even get it.

  • Cucker “Dick” Tarlson
    • Treant

      So you met my mother.

      • TuuxKabin

        So you’re my younger brother, Treant I’ve only heard about.

  • Slippy_World
    • Ross
      • Natty Enquirer

        I think I see one whisker out of place. Next!

    • Lazycrockett

      I do not find Momoa attractive in the least and in the interviews I’ve seen of him he doesn’t seem to intelligent either.

      • Cuberly Deux

        Actually it’s sort of the opposite.

        “After high school, Momoa began college in Iowa as a marine biology major, studying for a period in the Florida Keys. He transferred his major to wildlife biology at Colorado State University. Before completing his degree, he moved back to the Hawaiian Islands to reconnect with his father.[8]”

        • Lazycrockett

          It doesn’t show in the interviews.

          • Cuberly Deux

            He reminds me of the hippy nature guys I grew up around. They may act like seasonal ski-bum surfer dudes but they’re pretty damn sharp.

    • fuzzybits
  • gaycuckhubby
    • MikeBx2

      And he’s never admitted how wrong he was about them.

      • Ross

        And he never will.

        Because he is never wrong.

        • JCF

          And they were breathing while black.

  • Lazycrockett

    http://deadline.com/2017/11/lavar-ball-denies-trump-helped-free-son-from-china-shoplifting-charge-1202211604/

    I have to say before this week I had never heard of this shoplifting incident and the more I read I am finding no evidence that Drumpf intervened in any way.

    • Lazycrockett

      K sounds like Kelly, the state department and Alibaba the company was also involved in the release.

    • MikeBx2

      China is not North Korea. They would’ve have released them anyway. Perhaps it was fast tracked some because Trump was visiting.

      • worstcultever

        I honestly doubt Dumpy did shit.

        • Lazycrockett

          If he did he would have bragged about it immediately on twitter which he didnt.

          • worstcultever

            good point

          • -M-

            He bragged when they were released. Well, actually he groused about whether the players would thank him. Which they did.

          • worstcultever

            Of course they graciously did – shoulda been END OF STORY!

          • Lazycrockett

            Which was a week after his meeting with XI, no way does he have the impulse control to wait to tweet that “how awesome I am” for 7 days.

        • Friday

          It’s plausible that China gave Drumph those kids so he could claim to have walked away with something, hence he’s pissed the parents aren’t fawning about it.

          • worstcultever

            entirely possible – “hey, let’s give this demented sap a Happy Meal toy”

          • canoebum

            To the Chinese leadership, the whole incident is small potatoes. They were American basketball players. A slap on the wrist, a dirty look and send them home. The Chinese are basketball crazy now anyway. The government would just want to make the whole thing go away with as little fanfare as possible.

      • -M-

        I think any reasonable amount of money, good press, or good will would’ve been sufficient to get them released.

        The Chinese must still be breaking out in giggles every time they remember how little it takes to flatter Conald Drumpf.

        • Tor

          Here’s a Tootsie Roll, Donnie. Want some lemonade?

    • Cuberly Deux

      From what I’m gathering it was more of a gesture of good will from the Chinese government, timed for Trump’s visit.

      If donnie was so concerned, why didn’t he tweet about it before he even left for his world fuckery tour.

  • JT
  • Refugay

    OT-anyone been to Iceland? We’re thinking about planning an 8-day trip there next June/July for our 10th, gasp, marriage anniversary. We never took a honey moon so looking for something special for our 10th. We’re outdoorsy types and love hiking and camping. So, any particular can’t miss spots around the island? Or resources to check out? It looks like driving the whole “ring road” around the island is a bit overly ambitious for us and the amount of time we have. We’d prefer to go a bit slower and hike more as opposed to covering the most amount of territory.

    • safari

      BillBear just got back from there.

      • Steverino

        So glad he didn’t get stranded on an ice floe…

    • worstcultever

      Never been myself, but from all I’ve heard you can’t go wrong

    • Etranger

      It is great – I went in early spring (which is still winter there 🙂 but loved it). Would love to return in summer. Gulfoss falls (off top of my head so not sure of spelling) is spectacular and it would be great to get to a beach on the south side that is all black sand/rock and amazing formations from the volcanoes. I don’t know where to hike – but just thought I would say it is a great place. It is pricey once you get there just an FYI (like food and such) but I had great meals while there.

    • fuzzybits

      Make sure you go to the Bjork statue. 😛

    • gaycuckhubby

      Congrats on your upcoming anniversary!

    • SoCalGal20

      I have not been there but everybody I know of who has loved it. I think you’re going to have an incredible time. Happy anniversary!

  • Henry Auvil

    “Trumpian Petty Assholery” will be a graduate degree offering at the finest American universities in a few years. History wasn’t ready for this shit.

    • UrsusArctos 🐻

      I wonder if Wharton will offer the first degree. In “honor”of their “faux-alumni”

  • Louis Marschalko

    Shoulda left ’em there!’ Cause, like, China needs the diversity!

    • JT

      It’s no surprise you’ve still got your head up your ass.

      • Dreaming Vertebrate

        Don’t feed the trolls- just tag and block ’em.

    • Mickey Bitsko

      China has plenty of basketball camps. Get it?

      Try again when you’ve grown up. On second thought, don’t and pretend you did.

    • Cuberly Deux

      It’s your choice to be that fucking stupid.

      “China is VERY diverse. China’s territory is as big as the United States. There are 56 ethnicities officially recognized by Chinese government, and many of those ethnicities have their own languages.”

      • Louis Marschalko

        Yeah, but Han aren’t hung up on stupid diversity sh!t and stuff like that!

    • gaycuckhubby

      Hey! Congrats on posting on places other than 4Chan!

  • Dreaming Vertebrate

    Here’s what my Dino senses are telling me.
    Someone on Trump’s staff told him he should make some effort on their behalf, and being the petty racist he is, he did not want to. Either his staff prevailed, or the players were released with no help from Trump anyways. All Dumpf remembers now, is that he was asked to do something he did not want to – so he is acting like a spoiled brat. We saw the same dynamic over the fine Nazis in Charlottesville.

    • kareemachan

      Well, you need to realize that if someone tells him what he *should* do, he does the opposite.

    • Tor

      You saw how he congratulated himself on suspending his order about importing elephant trophies.

  • worstcultever

    Probably the truth of it in a nutshell

    https://twitter.com/speechboy71/status/932404515516665856

  • David Walker

    Totes, thoroughly, absolutely, and somewhat apologetically OT:
    I missed my first “Sing Along Messiah” in…20 years?…today. I’ll get over it, of course, and I’ll get over my one time each year to be in what is for Harrisburg a pretty healthy-sized church and feeling like the proverbial whore therein. I try not to touch pew bibles for fear of explosions.

    Listening to a recording of it today, I started wondering about morality, how far something can go, appropriation of a work, sex with young girls, that sort of thing. Should I, a most avowed non-Christian, not be singing such a magnificent piece of Christian art? Bach, Faure, Mozart, Rutter, any of their religious works. I don’t share their religion; should I sing their tributes to their gods? Should I look forward to singing something I don’t fully believe in? IS it “just singing”?

    It ties in with sex with young girls as far as Moore goes. What he did was very far from moral, and now he’s fighting like a sonuvabitch to continue to live off the pitch money from others. I find all of that repugnant, and don’t care to think about him more than I have to. I know his xnty and Handel’s or Vivaldi’s or Thompson’s are totally different, but they are both a worship of the same god. And the appropriation is me, a non-Christian from the git-go, having a great time singing a work filled with singing praise and glory and laud and honor to something that’s way out of my normal life.

    I’d like to think that all of this is because I have a horrible cold and my meds and the over-the-counter dwugs aren’t enjoying sharing the same bloodstream. But if I can’t come to you with moral conflicts, then whom? Nobody sees a conflict, right? Just sing the feckin’ music and enjoy.

    • Lumpy Gaga

      Hate to post a spoiler, but from Louis CK’s Netflix special “2017”:

      “You don’t think the Christians have won? WHAT YEAR IS IT?”

    • another_steve

      David, I think great and transcendent religious music and art speak to what is best in the human experience. The very best.

      I wouldn’t shun any of it.

      I would rejoice in its proclaiming of the jubilant and the joyful.

    • TuuxKabin

      I often see it as: “it’s the singer. Not the song.” Or. “It’s the song. Not the singer.” to avoid the conflict you describe as I perceive it. There is so much beauty in the music by those composers. I only pay attention to the music.

    • worstcultever

      Interesting post.

      Let’s face it, a lot of “sacred” music was created because the church (mob) ran everything, and how does a musician pay the rent without working for them to Glorify their Gawd? (Esp true of the earlier guys like Bach & to a lesser degree Handel) From there it just became another established form (bonus: no librettist needed – just cut & paste from the Bobble)!

      Anyway, I’d stick with your last sentence. (I did a Hallelujah C singalong at the Ken Cen once, and threw in all kinds of lesbo feminist atheism – you can get away with a lot, on those Big Numbers!)

      (Edit: hope you feel better!)

    • Cuberly Deux

      An art history professor I had, back in the day, used to have discussion groups with the art and art history majors. I loved those…..this topic came up a LOT. The influence of religion in art.

      Works from societies with monolithic belief & political systems. Artists were at the mercy of patrons both religious and royal.

    • Tor

      That is such a loaded question for any nonreligious artist or art lover. You can’t deny that St. Peter’s is a magnificent work or architecture, or that much of the great art of the world was commissioned by religious sects – christian and nonchristian. Or that christian music is often wonderful, just for it’s sounds. Who can forget FORRRRunto us is bo-o-o-o-oooo-o-o-ooo-orn a child, etc. I never go to religious service, except for weddings and funerals, and except when in a different country. The mass is quite visually beautiful in a language you don’t understand. Especially a christmas mass you stumble into at Santa Maria Maggiore with a stage full of 6 bishops in full drag and an over the top choir and orchestra and brass ensemble backing them up.

      • Mikey

        almost all of my favourite choral works are religious (Bach B Minor mass; Strawinski, Symphony of Psalms; Bernstein, Chichester Psalms; etc…) despite my being an atheist. It’s a bit like setting Harry Potter to music for me. It’s fantasy and fits well on music.

        However, I have to say that when it came time for me to write my Missa Brevis (originally for men’s chorus) I was simply unable to set the Credo to music. That text just rubs me in all the wrong ways. I replaced it with my version of Pater Noster.

        Many composers of great musical religious works were, in fact, atheists. Or at the very least agnostics.

  • gaycuckhubby
  • boobert

    This weekend started slow, but seems to be ending with a bang! Just today we have hannity losing his shit on twitter over Media matters on CNN. Then we find out poor little abused leeann did more groping, kissing and bumping than Franken. And now the moron is furious that black people aren’t bowing at his feet. All three of these stories should be blasted on every outlet tomorrow ! And hopefully we’ll get more Mueller indictments .

  • blackstar
  • kareemachan

    drumpster shitgibbon is a shit.

    This is all.

  • gaycuckhubby

    The real question is… how will they react if he wins?
    https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/932414467794722817

    • Skeptical_Inquirer

      Yeah, some of them made quite the noise before Twump got in then marched in step afterwards.

    • another_steve

      Kudos to them, but in 2017 – in the age of Donald Trump, Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell – you cannot consider yourself an honorable person and still associate yourself with the Republican Party.

      Used to be that the Republican Party was honorable and could accommodate honorable people.

      No longer.

      • gaycuckhubby

        I’m beginning to believe that too, Steve.

        • Tor

          Better late than never, gch. I think it started with Nixon, and if not him, Reagan for sure.

    • worstcultever

      Every little bit helps!

  • gaycuckhubby
  • blackstar

    Rosie’s crazy sometimes but I love her 🙂
    https://twitter.com/Rosie/status/932412672506761217

  • Lazycrockett
    • worstcultever

      loved this

    • another_steve

      Extreme farklemptness here, that girl isn’t President today.

      Here’s a visual representation of the depth of my farklemptness: an image of the Coney Island Brooklyn NYC of my childhood:

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/0b846fabdbcba2c6a1838ab308dc1316f8137965c7a06866fd439dbaa1d78056.jpg

      • Snarkaholic

        Did you get to see the giant elephant before it burned down? We have one of them (there were three originally) here in A.C./Margate (her name is Lucy):http://www.drew.edu/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/19/2016/04/lucy.jpg

        • another_steve

          A tad before my time, babe. The Coney Island elephant burned down in 1896. 😉

          Here’s some info on it from wiki, plus a picture.
          —————-
          The Elephantine Colossus, otherwise known as the Colossal Elephant or the Elephant Colossus, or by its function as the Elephant Hotel, was a tourist attraction located on Coney Island in Brooklyn, New York City. It was built in the shape of an elephant, an example of novelty architecture. The seven story structure designed by James V. Lafferty stood above Surf Avenue and West 12th Street from 1885 until 1896, when it burnt down in a fire.

          During its lifespan, the thirty-one room building acted as a hotel, concert hall, and amusement bazaar. It was the second of three elephant buildings built by Lafferty, preceded by the extant Lucy the Elephant near Atlantic City and followed by The Light of Asia in Cape May.

          https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e2f914b33c63ff7fa432eaf63ba611b722ccd9662bd664bcc89e43908bb57b05.jpg

    • Ross

      Fabulous. Thank you.

      She has FAR more grace than I do.

  • gaycuckhubby
  • MassageBear
    • Lumpy Gaga

      Tweeden really lets go on these USO tours.

      And we know she DOESN’T ACT. Does she sing (npi)?

      • worstcultever

        Among all the several good Twitter threads breaking this thing down, there’s a pic of her and Al together on the way home, sitting fairly close together and both all smiles. Sorta belies her statement that she felt so weird and avoided him, etc

        • Jerry Kott

          From my gut, her saga seems like gilding the lily. Aren’t USO tours risque from the get go, pushing the envelope of the norm ? Since her back ground of hyper sexuality seems to have been her career, this all seems exaggerated considering the videos of her I have seen since this has made headline. Sexual Harassment is a 2 way street. Her revelation just seems too staged in the moment.

          • worstcultever

            All that too, Jerry!

    • Dreaming Vertebrate

      Why is she objectifying that man and treating him like a piece of as$?

  • fuzzybits

    Another day,another prick move by the asshole in the White House.

    • Louis Marschalko

      If you have a desire for an alternative source for news I think I’ve found one that’s pretty “edgy” over here:
      https://dailystormer.hk

  • gaycuckhubby
    • worstcultever

      Preet does the sly burn so well

    • 2guysnamedjoe

      But Joe Arpaio’s father hasn’t kissed the orange one’s ass in gratitude yet, so that pardon oughta be rescinded.

  • gaycuckhubby
  • worstcultever

    Stray thought on AL race: Let’s remember that while the media-hogging Moore train flails in ever more clownish and desperate ways, Doug Jones is running an absolutely stellar, moderate, unifying, grownup campaign on actual issues, and with an excellent ground game. I think a lot is gonna come down to how tired everyone (even would-be Moore voters) are of Dumpyesque theatrics, which after a year of Dumpy aren’t exactly fresh anymore.

    • Skeptical_Inquirer

      Yes, he has been super classy and I really wish that some GOPers would for once put aside their weird useless psychotic obsession with abortion and vote for someone who’s actually going to spend time working for them and not trolling for young girls.

      • worstcultever

        Unfortunately there’s no reaching the ‘bortion freaks, ever (and I don’t get it either) – but I find it really interesting that Doug is running so cleanly, he’s ceased even acknowledging the existence of Moore at this point.

    • Louis Marschalko

      “Yawn”!

  • MikeBx2
  • Michael R
  • worstcultever

    Moment o’ trivia: that immortal gif of the blond gal emphatically flipping the bird is the German sitcom actress Martina Hill. There’s a fair bit of her stuff on YT. Here’s what she looks like in a friendlier moment:

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/3acce34531923f78e73e2e786e985393c242f306c2e52196b25970c9ef4ecb11.jpg

  • ohbear1957
    • worstcultever

      what I wouldn’t give ..

  • Blake J Butler
  • Blake J Butler
    • Lazycrockett

      Sherrod Brown mentioned that this week and Orin Hatch had a meltdown.

      • Blake J Butler

        McCaskill got to it.

        https://youtu.be/uLmQ_7aKKYs

      • Skeptical_Inquirer

        I knew Hatch was an ass but I didn’t know he was so easy to tee off. Frankly, Orrin should be worried about some of the families with tons of kids pissed off in his state.

  • Blake J Butler

    Amazing how one election can change things locally.

    https://twitter.com/pwcdanica/status/932425991879737344

  • Skeptical_Inquirer

    OT: It’s a small thing but a good thing. Sean Spicer is having problems finding a job.

    https://www.rawstory.com/2017/11/sean-spicer-unable-to-find-high-paying-media-job-after-ripping-networks-in-hannity-interview-report/

    “CNN famously told Spicer that the network had no interest in hiring him. Buzzfeed
    reports Spicer also met with CBS News, ABC News, and NBC News. None hired him.

    The continued rejections may not just be a result of Spicer’s brash and dismissive tone as press secretary, they may also be continued fallout from Spicer’s decision to take his first interview to Fox News.”

    He really should have done that Dancing with the Stars offer.

    • Blake J Butler
    • worstcultever

      What, award show cameos don’t pay the rent? Pity.

    • Lazycrockett

      They all are grifting as hard as they can cause none of them will ever work in DC again.

    • William

      Don’t worry Sean, Easter is coming.

  • Blake J Butler
    • SoCalGal20

      Danica tweeted that she was going to be speaking about diversity at the AMAs. Apparently she’s going to be back home in time for work tomorrow!

  • j.martindale

    So much for our daily reminder that the Presidunt has no class.

  • MikeBx2

    As soon as I saw this story in the news, I knew this tweet was coming.
    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/932420488642617344

    • safari

      6 killed, an elementary school targeted, students injured… sends thoughts and prayers to the wrong mass shooting. No policy changes suggested.

      • SoCalGal20

        Not to mention the 500+ people shot and 50 murdered in Las Vegas.

        • worstcultever

          Paul Ryan said PRAYER WORKS, dammit!

          Fine print: May not include pointless death or medical bills.

      • Blake J Butler

        Sh! he’s white, he gets thoughts and prayers instead of TERRORIST, and we need to cut off immigration to eastern countries that are muslim that i don’t have business ties to.

    • worstcultever

      Shut up traitor, nobody listens to you anymore

    • Skeptical_Inquirer

      All the wall freaks should be given “Thuts & pwayers.”

    • Lazycrockett

      Thus far Im not finding any details in this “attack”.

    • J Ascher

      Probably just fake news from the fake president! (I didn’t capitalize “president” on purpose.)

    • Lazycrockett

      This happened early this sunday morning and Drumpf spent the day going after blacks for not being grateful enough towards him.

    • Tor

      Sorry, it was only one. Get back to me when there are fifty.////////s

    • Treant

      Sorry, it’s too soon to talk about wall control.

  • Lazycrockett
    • MikeBx2

      Chile sounds nice. Maybe I’ll move to Chile.

      • Dreaming Vertebrate

        I think that’s where Vorpal lives.

  • Skeptical_Inquirer

    OT: Just a reminder that gains are often unequally distributed among class and race and visibility.

    https://www.buzzfeed.com/nellbernstein/we-few?utm_term=.erbdAd1xp#.ew6xLxnZr

    “As outrage swells on behalf of the movie stars, models, artists, and writers whose stories of abuse are emerging in the wake of the Weinstein revelations, the voices of working-class women — who are the most vulnerable, and have the least recourse — are simply not being heard. There’s a long and unfortunate trend of the gains won by the women’s movement being distributed unevenly along class and race divides, and we’re in danger of continuing that pattern today if low-wage women continue to be excluded from this latest round of reckoning.”

  • MikeBx2

    I wish we could skip the turkey pardon this year. We’ll be hearing the rest of the week what a great thing he did for that damn bird.

    • Lazycrockett

      I’m still betting he doesn’t pardon them.

      • UrsusArctos 🐻

        I’m thinking he’ll have Uday & Qusay mount them as “trophies”

        • MikeBx2

          Exactly what I was thinking.

        • Snarkaholic

          Or mount them as “fuck buddies.”

      • Joe in PA

        Only if they are white turkeys. 🙁

        • Lazycrockett

          They are.

    • worstcultever

      He probably will skip it, since it involves treating a living being with good-natured kindness. Also the bird is the star & not him, another big no-no.

      • Lazycrockett

        He doesn’t seem like an animal person at all and I would think a wild animal would scare the shit out of him. So photo ops are going to be very interesting.

      • Joe in PA

        Did you see…the trumps will accept the WH christmas tree early…they’ll be vacationing in Palm Beach and won’t be able to get it on Friday. How nice for them.

        • Lazycrockett

          I figure he will take most of December off.

          • William

            He’ll be ducking process servers.

  • Lazycrockett
  • worstcultever
  • SoCalGal20
    • Louis Marschalko

      Kimberly Guilfoyle.

  • boobert

    WAY O/T : I just saw a commercial for some cruise line that showed high divers. Now if you jumped off a high dive platform on a moving boat, wouldn’t you end up someplace other than intended depending on how fast the boat was going? Sounds kinda dangerous to me, lol.

    • Natty Enquirer

      You have to jump early because you will have the boat’s forward velocity.

      • Dreaming Vertebrate

        So does the onboard pool.

    • JohnJay

      Only if the ship were turning or accelerating (+ or -) right at the jump. Basically, the jumper on the high board is moving with the same speed and direction as the ship.

      • boobert

        Even if the boat is moving while the diver is in mid air?

        • JohnJay

          The only thing that would complicate things is if there were a strong wind that might push a diver off course. If the speed and direction of the ship stays the same during the dive, things will be OK. Just because the diver leaves the board and is moving down… he continues to have the horizontal velocity of the ship (and the pool).

          Think of being inside a car going down the interstate at 60 mph. Drop a ball inside from the ceiling and let it fall to the floor. It falls in a straight line down (from your perspective, because you all are going 60 mph in the same direction). If… after you drop the ball, the driver swerves sharply or hits the brakes… the ball will not fall in a straight line down.

          • boobert

            I’m gonna try that in the car, lol.

          • Treant

            It’s more fun in an elevator. Jump just as the car begins to move downward and you’ll jump very high if the elevator accelerates quickly. Jump just as the car stops at the bottom and you’ll barely make any jump at all, but still hit the ground hard.

          • boobert

            I still don’t get it . Once you leave the platform the boat is still moving. If I’m on a moving walkway at the airport and jump up, I wouldn’t land on the same spot that I started, Would I ? My brain hurts! lol

          • Treant

            You’d land on the same relative spot; so if you put a cloth down on the walkway, stood on it, and jumped straight up, you’d come down on the cloth (assuming the walkway didn’t move in the mean time).

            Objects in motion must stay in motion–motion is energy, and it has to be conserved. So once you jump, yes…the boat is still moving. But so are you.

            For the same reason, Earth is spinning at about 1,000 miles per hour (at the Equator; 700 or so in New York City). Jump up and come back down and you didn’t rocket off at 1,000 MPH because that energy doesn’t disappear. It violates the rules of the Universe if it does.

          • Treant

            I can’t edit that for some reason; you would land on that cloth if the walkway didn’t change speed (not “move,” I was thinking of it from your relative reference frame, in which it isn’t moving).

          • -M-
          • William

            I’ve wanted to throw tennis balls on board airplanes for years. Throw the ball just as the aircraft banks to see what it does. I don’t think the cabin crew would find my experiments as interesting.

          • Dreaming Vertebrate

            Nowadays you’d be tased, cuffed and processed as a terrorist.

        • Natty Enquirer

          Your dive will follow a parabolic arc, not the straight line you would get diving off a stationary platform. So you will hit the water past the usual point in the direction the ship was traveling. That’s why you have to jump early.

          • Dreaming Vertebrate

            What does “jump early” even mean.
            On these cruises, divers jump one after another all day long.

        • Treant

          You mean the diver dives off a platform on the moving boat, which continues to move while the diver falls toward the water, also on the boat?

          It’s a relative reference frame. The diver has the same velocity as the boat. While he/she might lose some due to friction with the air as he falls, both the boat and the diver maintain (most of) their velocity even under no power.

          You don’t suddenly stop moving in a given direction if you jump up and down, so it’s safe to do so on a speeding train. Same thing here.

          (Or, objects in motion tend to stay in motion, unless something stops them).

        • -M-

          Aside from air drag slowing the diver down or the boat speeding up, slowing down or turning while you’re in the air, it makes no difference. The diver’s already moving at the same velocity as the boat and its pool.

    • Elliott

      Only if the boat is accelerating, decelerating, or turning. Othewise, you should be fine, provided your know how to dive.

    • The_Wretched

      Have you ever driven with a fly in your car? It doesn’t splat on the rear window.

      • boobert

        Wouldn’t that be because your in a closed space? If you were in a convertible going 50 mph the fly would also have to be going 50 mph.

        • The_Wretched

          The physics of the fly has nothing to do with the window glass. 50 mph winds, however, will push the fly around the same as if it was over a picnic table.

          Maybe this will help. After watching this one, watch one about they physics of a helium balloon in a car.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVeP6oqH-Qo

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  • gaycuckhubby

    1. This is how we win
    2. I’m (politically) in love

    https://twitter.com/oliviacnoble/status/932439573669564416

    • worstcultever

      Me too absolutely to both your 1 and 2. Danica is going to energize the FUCK out of the hitherto moribund dem party everywhere!

  • Whicker Park

    And this is the President of the U.S.A. WHat an asshat

  • Blake J Butler
  • Ninja0980

    https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/932362970524418053
    Before Trump, guess who the previous record holder for getting a presidency with the most judicial vacancies was and which President had a record number of his picks blocked before Obama?
    If you guessed George W and Bill Clinton, you’re right.
    Sorry but we can’t call out Republicans without pointing out that besides Robert Bork and the nuclear option, Democrats have done jack when it comes to the judicial branch.
    The fact they were stupid enough to put the blue slip rule back in place after Republicans ignored it under W is another example of how stupid they were in regards to the judicial branch.
    Democrats play nice when it comes to the courts, Republican play to win.
    And we will be paying for that for decades.

    • worstcultever

      Gah. A real democratic party would NEVER have put up with all the years of judicial bullying that have led us to the present disaster. For that matter, a real democratic party would have marched en masse with Merrick Garland to the SCt and fucking seated him.

      • Ninja0980

        Him and the other 55 nominees to Circuit and District courts that Republicans left languishing.

        • worstcultever

          At this point what’s to keep the pukes from saying, “sorry, only puke judges now and forever” even when they’re out of power? It certainly worked for Turtle & his outrageous, unconstitutional stunt – with zero pushback or consequences. Gah this just fucking INFURIATES me.

          • Ninja0980

            That is exactly what they did during the Clinton and Obama years.
            And when Democrats controlled the Senate from 06-15, they let them do just that.

  • gaycuckhubby

    Thanksgiving week might get interesting…

    https://twitter.com/chrisgeidner/status/932451867082346496

  • Bambino
  • MikeBx2
    • worstcultever

      most perfect response ever

  • SoCalGal20

    Ooh AL.com is not putting up with any of Roy Moore’s shit. Their reaponse to his threat to sue:

    https://twitter.com/spencerwoodman/status/932382157414260739

    • MikeBx2

      This is too good:
      “These include, but are not limited to, all materials and information related to Mr. Moore’s history of romantic relationships or physical encounters (whether consensual or not)…”

    • Dreaming Vertebrate

      Perfect!!!

    • Dreaming Vertebrate

      I just love that they are threatening Moore (of Ten commandments fame), with the dreaded Rule 11.
      He stopped counting one too soon!
      See Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 11.

  • Bambino

    O/T What in the world of prosthetic ?! I gotta watch at least that episode 😛
    https://hornetapp.com/stories/josh-hutcherson-nude-future-man/

  • blackstar
    • Lazycrockett

      and that is why I never give.

    • another_steve

      Be very careful before contributing to any self-described “charitable” organization – particularly any that is religious-affiliated.

      Do research first. Google. There are sites that assess these organizations in terms of how many dollars collected are spent administratively (i.e., are largely directed to the pockets of the administrators) and how many dollars actually go to people in need.

      Do research first.

    • Lumpy Gaga

      Brief coronary event. I thought this was about the Red Cross despite the BIG FONT.

      But Salvation Army? Yeah. Old News. Not a penny from me in years.

    • Cuberly Deux

      They’re renowned for their indoctrination efforts. And that messed up military themed hierarchy they adopt, majors, captains, yada yada…

      Don’t give a dime.

  • John Thayer

    Sad! AL.com doesn’t represent Yellowhammer values. Then again, neither does Doug Jones.

    • Dreaming Vertebrate

      So, Cliff Sims supports the pedo? Sad!!

    • worstcultever

      Run along while I block ya, sport.

    • Skeptical_Inquirer

      Define them and talk about how wonderful values means ignoring abuse of young girls as long as they’re being abused by the “right” kind of men.

    • KnownDonorDad

      Leave Trash Dove alone! Bad enough Pepe was commandeered by the alt-right….

    • JCF

      I read an AL.com article that said Moore was way ahead, that Jones winning could only happen freakishly ala a “Kick 6” (the famous 2013 Iron Bowl—that’s the in-state rivalry game between Alabama and Auburn—wherein Auburn won on the final play of the game via an 109! yard run-back of Alabama’s short field goal attempt). 🙁

      Then I noticed the date: October 12. ;-/ Bye-bye now.

  • worstcultever

    This is what I mean about Jones. People in AL have kids.

    https://twitter.com/GDouglasJones/status/931961520824647680

  • Lazycrockett
    • Mikey

      well, you obviously did that on porpoise.

      • Mickey Bitsko

        Cue the orcastra.

      • JCF

        It’s cetaceanal!

    • Cuberly Deux

      Odd happenings in Monterey Bay. Over 50 blue whales have been hanging around way past normal migratory season. The fact they’re so close inshore is strange. But, turns out there’s been a major upwelling and lots of krill are around.

      http://www.sfgate.com/local/article/Blue-whales-invade-Monterey-Bay-12369746.php

      • Lazycrockett

        So group of small fish were spawning which led to dolphins, yellowfin tuna, manrays and swordfish all gathering for a feast.

    • Lazycrockett

      This whole episode is fraking beautiful.

      • Jean-Marc in Canada

        Agreed. This season is proving to be absolutely stunning.

    • Dreaming Vertebrate

      So serene with the sun dappling their backs, beautiful!

    • Rebecca Gardner

      OK, what’s with all the marine wildlife pics today? I just came back from days of diving. It’s beautiful to see some of the amazing wildlife i love and want to see protected here in the JMG comments.

      • Lazycrockett

        They are from the new BBC’s Blue Planet 2 doc. that is currently being shown in the UK.

        • Rebecca Gardner

          I love Blue Planet.

  • Lazycrockett
  • Lazycrockett
  • Lazycrockett
    • houstonray

      I see pics like this and I’m always just so astounded that this is on our own planet. Then I start to imagine what life elsewhere in the universe must look like. Can you even fathom what that might be?

      • Lazycrockett
        • houstonray

          Oh yeah, you would have to remind me about the Borg, ha!

      • Rebecca Gardner

        Come dive with me. I’ll help make that pic your reality. I need to edit the video from today’s dives. Entering the water, then coming back up from 80 feet was all in a field of gorgeous jellies.

        • houstonray

          That must be incredible…I’d love to see your video!!

    • Rebecca Gardner

      OMG! My dive buddy calls me the “Jellyfish Whisperer.” I have this thing with finding utterly beautiful jellyfish to dive with. I really love this pic so very much. I’ll have to post some video from this weekend’s dives where I had some beautiful time with beautiful jellies after coming up from 80 feet.

      • Aren’t they dangerous? Like if you touch one you can be stung or even paralyzed? I thought jellyfish should be avoided. I am just curious —

  • Leo
    • Skeptical_Inquirer

      I’m just wondering why the intelligence agencies in our country didn’t point this out prior to the election. I know they want to protect their sources and all that but damn, when the Presidency was at stake, they should show they’re worth all the money we funnel into them!

      • Lazycrockett

        McConnell refused to go along with a bipartisan approached and threatened to make Obama weighing in as trying to tilt the election. That evil turtle will be remembered by history.

        • BobSF_94117

          So will Obama’s inexplicable spinelessness.

    • JCF

      It’s called “grooming”.

  • DaveMiller135

    I’ve tried, repeatedly, to picture Jefferson, or JFK, or Carter or Obama embarrassing themselves (and me) so thoroughly. Every day. Nope, can’t get there.

  • blackstar

    yeah …finally . .. https://i.imgur.com/PI3A0hZ.gif

    • houstonray

      WOW. just, wow.

  • Ninja0980

    Charles Manson is worm food.
    Nice to have some good news before the Holidays.

    • DaddyRay

      Finally

    • houstonray

      Great news. A few decades late but good news.

    • DaddyRay

      The fact that he lived to 83 is proof there is no god

      • Lazycrockett

        Hey better healthcare than most of us on the outside of the gray hotel.

        • DaddyRay

          Ain’t that the truth

    • Lazycrockett
  • Skeptical_Inquirer
    • Treant

      Thoughts and prayers. They voted against aid for my area, so I really don’t give a shit about them.

      • Ninja0980

        Yup.
        They wanted us to pull ourselves up by our bootstraps, time for them to suck it up and do the same.

  • JCF

    Elva Morris
    @elva_morris
    Replying to @realDonaldTrump @MIC_CPH

    “The President of the United States is saying…”

    THIS President of the United States has NO bottom, Elva. None, ever.

  • Rebecca Gardner

    Charles Manson has died.
    I will forever miss his amazing interviews.

  • Treant

    OT: Skeptical_Inquirer’s idea of peppermint candy soap is done. It needs time to settle, right now the scent is a bit sharp.

    Since I was down there again, I also finished off 17 pounds of laundry detergent. With the old stuff, we have 4.5 gallons of a 5 gallon bucket full, for around 35 pounds. That will keep us running well into 2019.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/9416399365ed0fbfdfe229f66057d724e4ad596af1ec75debd1a19800b077714.jpg

    • Lazycrockett

      You do Laundry detergent also?!?!? what sort of wizard are you?

      • Treant

        A busy one.

        • Lazycrockett

          So long term which is better a liquid softener or a dryer sheet?

          • Treant

            A liquid softener.

            That having been said, I use both…and make my own liquid softener as well. I could make my own dryer sheet, but…annoying.

            The recipe for a liquid softener is trivially easy: 1-6 oz of vinegar (I like apple cider vinegar because I like the scent) and 28-31 oz of water (just fill a quart container). I also add a large squirt of cheap Suave conditioner and shake it in.

            I like to fill the cup, but I also like a lot of vinegar, so I tend closer to 6 oz of vinegar. This will also clean your washer and dissolve hard water deposits and soap residue.

          • Lazycrockett

            I have to go jerk off now.

            night.

          • Treant

            Think o’ me while you’re doin’ it.

          • William

            Dryer sheets are practically chemical warfare.

          • Lazycrockett

            I have only discovered LS and Im amazed at the difference.

    • fuzzybits

      Now you need to sit still and meditate.

    • fuzzybits

      Now you need to sit still and meditate.

    • It reminds me of some tasty dessert they serve upper class British public school boys — who look like Eddie Redmayne — before they cane them and encourage them to have sex with hot upper classmen in places like Eaton. (most people don’t know Eddie and Prince William were classmates there). https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/2ad3575e4314a728fce7d978b7070783e16c17802bc2cf2dc62c64a2af2034a2.jpg

      • Treant

        Well, that’s…oddly specific…

  • Blake J Butler
    • coram nobis

      RIP = Rot In Pieces?

      • Blake J Butler

        A cold dead Corpse yes indeedy. Bout time the deserving ones kicked it instead of the good undeserving ones.

    • JCF

      “Reform school” at age 8. You can think about that as “how mentally fucked up do you have to be to be put into [prison] at age 8” OR you can think about it as “what level of Dante’s Inferno would an *8* year old experience in [prison]”? Doesn’t matter.

      If I’m the only person on Planet Earth to say so, I have no difficulty whatsoever: Rest in Peace, Charles Manson.

  • Richard B

    The title says it all and the narcissist in chief seems to have a unnatural knack for it.

  • safari

    Well, the horror that ended the free love generation is dead. Can we get back to being hippies now?

  • Cuberly Deux

    The things you stumble across. (shudder)

    https://twitter.com/Qwrk_K2/status/932487742990225408

    • safari

      Steve Bannon taught him well.

      • Cuberly Deux

        Or was it Roy Cohn?

        • When I got started in advertising, this very good looking “A list gay” account executive could not stop talking about how he was invited to Roy’s soirees with older lecherous gay men who could not get enough of his hotness — and could not understand the look of disdain & disgust on my face upon hearing this. I was like “you HAVE to be joking and you are PROUD of this?” — I am not sure I said that but I left the wonderful world of advertising quickly, not for me!

        • JCF

          Both.

    • Treant

      Like he could get his head past his enormous gut, or would do any work at any point whatsoever.

      You know Melanoma has to ride him during their contractually-required sessions. He just lies there, jiggling more than she does.

      • safari

        I just want to say the word “mounts” over and over again until it has no meaning.

    • Lazycrockett

      There is no way in hell this fat fuck could even get his mouth near his cock, and he has probably not seen by looking down in 2 decades.

      • Cuberly Deux

        I think he’s been reduced to being fellated with praise. Nobody will go hear his junk. Melania seemed to be pretty cool with staying in NYC for a LONG time without being subjected to it.

    • Actually Paul Ryan is probably still fit enough to do this in real life. Just ask Aaron Schlock.

  • blackstar
    • Lazycrockett

      There is no hell.

      Just be glad he is no longer on earth.

      • safari

        But his name will be with us for another century or two.

        • Lazycrockett

          as a warning bout cult like behaviour. add Jones and Drumpf to the list.

        • Ninja0980

          Sad to say but you’re right.

    • Cuberly Deux

      At least he was rotting in jail. Meanwhile Paul Ryan’s congress is pretty intent on becoming a considerably worse serial killer & torturer.

    • The fact is anyone born after 1970 probably think its this guy. He is the more famous Manson. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c01b00af4d553ce24f21f346654c38749334b40f75ade9c95f5dddf85268a234.jpg

      • safari

        Nah. South Park had a “Merry Christmas Charlie Manson” episode and true crime podcasts are all the rage.

      • Lazycrockett

        I said something on this Friday, its gonna be interesting to see how the media covers his death. When this was going on in 1969, its was mass hysteria in LA. The trial and verdict became hell worldwide news. Then the book and the mini series, which frankly scared the hell out of me, is a touchstone. Manson has been a boogeyman feature for the last 5 decades.

        • I was out of the country for the 90s and half of the 2000s so I am lucky enough to have forgot about him, Charles Manson is basically unknown in the UK. They have Gary Barlow (from Take That!) instead.

        • Ninja0980

          Yup, was THE story of the century when it happened.
          One of Manson’s followers trying to kill Gerald Ford made it more so.

          • Squeaky From! I can remember that name for some reason right?

          • Ninja0980

            Yes, she was the woman in question.
            She was released and actually lives about 50 minutes from where the hubby and I do.

          • I can top that. I live near Mar-a-Trasho and Rush Limbaugh in Palm Beach County. Barf!!!!!!!!!!

          • Ninja0980

            Yuck.

          • 2guysnamedjoe

            I’m glad I don’t live in a high-crime area

          • :):):):):):):)

          • Homo Erectus

            A few days later we learned about Sarah Jane Moore. How many people remember the sad gay sidebar to the story?

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=718&v=lkLy2P3_Q1g

        • William

          Manson was my introduction to the horror of humanity. We lived in California from 1970 to 1972 and from 1974 to 1977. I heard more about him and his ‘family’ than I ever needed to. Bury the fucker in a toxic waste dump and be done with it.

      • fuzzybits

        Ah Canton,Ohio. Home of the Football Hall Of Fame and Marilyn Manson.

        • safari

          I just learned it is also home to President McKinley.

          • He is very underrated. He was a very progressive Republican President whose life was cut short by assassination — Republicans were the progressive party back then. He laid a good foundation for Teddy Roosevelt — the giant of the progressive era.

          • Ninja0980

            Yup.
            You look back at history and it’s truly amazing to see how much the parties have switched.

          • A good lecture on Ida McKinley is here – I read Carl Anthony’s biography on her — a very dynamic first lady https://www.c-span.org/video/?310740-1/first-lady-ida-mckinley

    • William

      I hope it was excruciating. RIP Sharon and all the other victims.

  • Cuberly Deux

    Nite ya’ll. It’s been fun.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1G0stojwYjI

  • BEARY FLINTSTONE

    In all fairness LaVar Ball is a fucking idiot. There are so many other kids deserving to be at UCLA on scholarship and would have never went to another country to steal. As much as I hate to say it in this case. Trump was right to strike back!

    • safari

      Because his father didn’t say thank you? The player did say thank you.

      • Ninja0980

        They’re both trolls IMO and Ball KNEW Trump would take the bait.
        He doesn’t give a damn about any of his sons, only if his name stays in the paper, same as Trump.

        • Lazycrockett

          Im assume this laball is what Kenan is imitating on SNL?

          • Ninja0980

            Yes.
            He is basically the sports parents from hell.

        • Lazycrockett

          and this family has some sort of facebook reality show like the evil kardishits?

    • JT

      Sneaky trolls always “hate to say it”.

      • BEARY FLINTSTONE

        Who is a troll?

  • fuzzybits

    Marilyn Monroe with Charles Manson’s eyes. https://i.redd.it/8inuni527h8z.jpg

  • Lazycrockett
  • fuzzybits
  • safari

    Today, 20 November, is the Transgender Day of Rememberance.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgender_Day_of_Remembrance

  • Joseph Miceli

    Our President is completely lacking in even an iota of grace whatsoever. Sad.

  • SoCalGal20
    • JCF

      At least the woman to his right (the mind-boggling statement above was by the chatty guy in the upper right) rolled her eyes when he said that.

      Every single thing that guy said was circular reasoning, all coming back to (essentially) “Trump can do no wrong…because Trump can do no wrong.”

      Fuhgeddabout him (and perhaps all the others in the hivemind above—maybe the woman in the zebra stripes excepted). We don’t need the hardcore DrumpfenKorp, we need everybody else!

    • blackstar

      fuck! them. brainwashed cult.

      • Dazzer

        The brains clearly shrank in the wash.

  • blackstar
  • Cipher

    DT is insulting more black people on Twitter? Shocked.

  • infmom

    Those basketball boneheads ought to be kicked out of UCLA, period. If they’re so dumb they think that a group of super tall African Americans with goofy haircuts and an attitude won’t be noticed in a Chinese store, they’re too dumb to be in college.

  • ColdCountry

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