ALABAMA: State GOP To Consider Pulling Roy Moore’s Senate Nomination, His Name Would Remain On Ballot

Talking Points Memo reports:

As national Republicans ramp up the pressure to force Roy Moore to drop his Alabama Senate campaign, the small group of local GOP power players who will ultimately determine Moore’s political fate are taking reluctant steps towards deciding whether to cut him loose. The 21 members of Alabama’s Republican Party central steering committee are the only ones who can pull Roy Moore’s nomination and potentially block his path to the Senate.

Under state law, it is too late to remove Moore’s name from the ballot or replace him with another candidate. If his nomination his withdrawn but he still gets the most votes in the Dec. 12 election against Democratic nominee Doug Jones, it’s unclear what happens. Some interpret the law as saying the election would be null and void and the governor would need to call a new one, while others say the second-place finisher would be declared the winner, whether that’s Jones or a write-in. Lawsuits would be likely.

The meeting of the steering committee will happen “later this week.” Hit the link for much more.

  • Kevin Andrews

    As if any of the inbred idiots who support this vile sexual predator would do anything to stop him. This is the GOTP of the Koch Brother’s wet-dreams on the hoof.

  • Gustav2

    If Republicans try to do anything, I can’t imagine there will not be multiple lawsuits. This is not an internal Republican Party rules thing, but deals with state election laws.

  • AW

    So what happens when he wins? Because I still believe that he will win. Considering Alabama.

    • Dramphooey

      I hate to agree with you but I fear the same thing. Also, we’re still weeks away. The GOP scattered for a bit after “grab them by the pussy” in 2016 but then they rallied.

      • AW

        Exactly! And it’s not like the people of Alabama are known for being particularly smart or good. So the pedo rapist is gonna win. If it’s good enough for the (fake and stolen) “president” then it’s good enough for a senator.

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      • They discovered that “grab ’em by the pussy” gets you elected POTUS.

    • Todd20036

      If he wins, then the GOP governor gets to pick the senator. Probably Strange.

      • Chucktech

        Dumocrissy.

      • VicGA

        That is totally uncertain. Like many laws, there is no route that can be followed in a case like this. If he dies, that is different. Then the Governor can replace him. Getting booted from the nomination is a different and untested scenario.

    • james1200

      Evangelicals then lose what’s left of their fragile credibility, even with their own children, and secularism takes hold even quicker than anticipated. Preachers like Franklin Graham have already blown up their own credibility supporting the Rapist In Chief anyway and Moore is just the icing on the cake.

      • Sporkfighter

        Hey, optimist . . . the glass isn’t half full. It isn’t a quarter full.

        People have never stopped believing bullshit because it’s obviously bullshit.

        • james1200

          I don’t think anyone has ever called me an optimist before! Thanks u! Anyway, 25% of the U.S. is Atheist/Agnostic already so I think we might be on our way.

          • (((GC)))

            Rather, 25% is unaffiliated, the “Nones” who have quadrupled since the ’70s.

            “A majority of nones still believe in God — 22 percent say God is a “person,” while 37 percent see God as “an impersonal force.”” (Religion News Service)

            Still, that’s movement in the rational direction!

      • Chucktech

        And then, you awoke from your blissful, dreamy sleep.

    • Chucktech

      It’s Alabama. They won’t know whether to shit or wind their watch.

      Actually, they don’t, regardless.

    • ben-andy

      The Senate will have to seat him [Adam Clayton Powell got seated in the House over the House’s objections, 8-0 decision by the Supremes] and then the Senate “might” decide” to expel him. That takes 67 votes, because the Constitution says “2/3’s majority” and Moore, being seated, makes it 100 Senators.

      Since he won’t vote for himself to be expelled, the The Thugs will have 51 votes. That means they need 16 Dems/Ind to help them do this. I hope each and every one extracts a pound of flesh for it. “Assault Rifle ban, anyone?” “Uniform Federal Background Checks?” “The next SCOTUS appointment?” “60 votes needed for all purposes in the Senate?” You name it That last might be dangerous as it would allow the loose cannons like Canadian Teddy Cruz to shut down the government, refuse to raise the debt ceiling, etc again.

      • The Republican Party will never expel someone merely because they broke the law, especially not this kind of issue. After all, they made Trump into a president after he bragged about criminally assaulting women in the notorious bus tape: “they let you do it when you’re a celebrity, you don’t even have to ask them, just grab them by the pussy”.

        The Democrats and the media just let the Republican Party walk all over them.

  • TampaDink

    Because this is Alabama, they probably plan to put him back onto their supreme court again if he doesn’t win.

  • pj

    guess a few more women need to cry on the tv before they get the message. whats the chance that all of the republican steering committee are white men.

    • canoebum

      99.9%

  • netxtown

    for dotard and dummies, MAGA is code for being able to grab pussy without consent or consequence again…

    Molesting adolescent girls again…

    • Todd20036

      Also to hunt blacks, beat up LBGTs, and deport Mexicans.
      MAGA is code for NAZI. And it’s not a subtle code, either.

  • Tawreos

    This is an interesting development. First they thought the liberal press had it in for Moore, then it was “establishment” republicans, but now it is the hometown boys. It should be fun to watch this play out. They are scheduling the meeting for later in the week in hopes he will step down before they have to do anything that might make them look bad.

    • Sporkfighter

      He can’t step down. His name is still on the ballot, people will still vote for him, and he might win anyway.

      He can’t step down because he can’t see himself as the evil bastard he is. He just can’t admit publicly and to himself that he’s not one of God’s warriors.

      He can’t step down. That might give the win to a Democrat. He’ll stay in the race, hoping that the furor will die down among the Alabama voters just like it did with Trump.

      The Republicans don’t want him to step down. They hope he wins, the Senate refuses to seat him, and their governor appoints a replacement Republican.

      All you’re seeing from the Republicans is smoke trying to hide the obvious fact that they are protecting the party to maintain their own teat on the sow.

      • Tawreos

        They don’t have enough smoke to hide what they are really doing, and they never have.

        • Sporkfighter

          Explain Trump. There was enough smoke to get him elected.

          • Tawreos

            That wasn’t smoke from them it was ignorance from voters.

          • (((GC)))

            And voter suppression. And questionable electronic voting machine results. And a massive Russian propaganda campaign. And frighteningly precisely targeted psychological warfare (targeted posts and ads) from Robert Mercer & co. using detailed profiles from Facebook likes.

          • Sporkfighter

            I can’t buy that. Trump had insulted women, veterans, blacks, Hispanics…we heard him on tape celebrating sexual assault.

      • clay

        He can’t step down. Not after it’s been set up a “if the charges are true.”

    • marshlc

      The fact that they are talking about this, in Alabama, means that they’re hearing about it from Alabamans. They wouldn’t do a damn thing if they were not feeling pressure.

      They are probably also getting pressure from federal Republicans. Senator from some midwestern state unhappy to be getting phone calls from HIS constituents, and perfectly willing to spread the unhappiness around. “Can’t you clean your own shit up down there, it’s splattering on me!”

      As always, pressure works. If you’ve got a Republican senator, he needs a phone call “You’re going to sit in caucus with this guy? OK, I’m lumping you in with him!” No need to mention that you would never vote Republican if your life depended on it no matter how they handle this.

    • Oh, Parker

      His ego is far too huge to drop out. When you walk around all day thinking that whatever you do is ordained by some higher power, then you never respect mere humans. He believes he’s above our laws in every way. The proof is how he behaved before he was removed from power twice previously. Some people are just born assholes.

  • Bambino

    How disgusting and pathetic for a political party on both the state and federal level that suppose to represent the people of a civilize country are still mulling over decisions over a pedophile relevance within its party.

  • fuow

    Lay down with dogs, wake up with fleas. Roll in the pen with pigs, don’t complain if you come out caked in mud.
    Alabama’s Republicans’ problem – the dogs and the pigs are running from them.

    • Tread

      They are the dogs and pigs.

  • Johnny Wyeknot

    Criminalizing homosexuals wasn’t enough?

  • worstcultever

    Pukes – this is who you are. You’ve created an army of this. It’s a thousand-pound millstone around your neck forever. Fuck you, and enjoy.

  • GayOldLady

    Those damned cowards! With yesterdays revelations there should be no hesitation about pulling him from the ballot. When you have a woman come forward with evidence that he knew her and a story of sexual assault accompanied by retired Mall employees coming forward to say “YES” he was banned from the Gadsden Mall for being a predator of teens, EVERY bell, whistle and red flashing light should go off in their brains. This man was a sexual predator of teen girls, there’s no way to deny it and there will be additional accusations before the week is over. They need to get this over and withdraw his candidacy.

    • Bj Lincoln

      If he were a dem he would have already been dropped from the race, charged and found guilty.

      • GayOldLady

        And you and I would have helped to drag him to the curb! 🙂

      • Michael Angelo III

        And the vast majority of liberals would have been leading the charge. That’s the difference between the two parties. “God-less” liberals are far more likely to do the “Christian” thing than the Christians who comprise the GOP party.

        • kareemachan

          They’re xtians in name only. As they’ve proven time and time again.

      • prixator

        For a Dem in Alabama, you got the order wrong: found guilty, dropped, charged, imprisoned. (Within 24 hours, perhaps?)

    • boatboy_srq

      There’s a certain value in letting him continue: using the election to showcase exactly how many Teahadis are vile, amoral w#nkers could be a useful wake-up call to any remaining “principled Republicans” that their party has been overrun.

      Moore has no business holding public office. But the same could be said of many GOTea elected officials. The list of scofflaws, predators, and other reprobates that have attained office from that party is long and notable. Forcing Moore to withdraw only makes the others less vulnerable by pretending to have morals in this one instance; it does nothing to highlight how pervasive the problem is, or how thoroughly their voters have been misled. And it does nothing to hold the others to account.

      If Moore continues, then regardless of whether he wins the general election the GOTea will be forced to recognize the problem – either because Moore wins, in which case they have a monster of their own making in the Senate and his minions voting in his state, or because Moore loses catastrophically now that US voters are finally waking up to the idea that the GOTea is a party of monsters. Removing him from the ticket merely delays that realisation for them.

      • Sporkfighter

        “If Moore continues, then regardless of whether he wins the general election the GOTea will be forced to recognize the problem….”

        If that didn’t happen with Trump, why would you expect it to happen with Moore?

        • boatboy_srq

          The ick factor with Moore is higher, and there are more people speaking out. Lord Dampnut is many things, but he’s not personally a sexual assault risk to your kids. Moore arguably is that risk.

          And the GOTea may not be saying that they are recognizing the problem, but there’s enough tension between the WH and Capitol Hill to indicate that the discomfort level is rising. This isn’t something the GOTea will be able to do overnight: it’s taken them three decades to reach this point, and it will likely take as long to correct.

          Either way, McConnell loses a reliable vote in the Senate: either Jones wins, in which case the Dems gain a seat, or Moore wins, in which case McConnell has an avowed opponent within his own caucus sitting in the chamber. Forcing Moore to step aside,or pushing a write-in campagn for Strange, only perpetuates the GOTea status quo, which is not healthy for either the party of the nation. And expelling Moore immediately, or refusing to seat him, still lets the rest of them skate.

        • Chucktech

          If the feckless, anachronistic Electoral College had done the job it was designed to do, that’s exactly what would have happened.

    • sword

      Compare that to those heathen Californians…just a den of pedophiles, who do nothing to clean up their state. All of those firings of sexual predators in Hollywood are just false facts trying to confuse us God Loving Red States.

    • BobSF_94117

      They cannot pull him from the ballot. No one can, not even Moore himself. He’s on the ballot. Period.

  • OdieDenCO

    since when is a candidate for elected office required to be endorsed by a political committee?

  • Gay Fordham Prep Grad

    The more I reflect upon this, if he wins (which I hope he doesn’t) the more I think Roy should proudly take his place in the senate. I don’t think the Dems should join in the 2/3 necessary vote to deny him his seat; the fine klansmen and women of Alabama will have spoken. Let him become the face of the GOP for the next election cycle. Sunday morning chat shows and all…I know Roy will be in demand.

    • Natty Enquirer

      If that happens, he will fade from public attention in 30 days.

      • MUELLER KNOWS

        Not necessarily. He’ll be on political shows and enshrined in 2018 campaign ads.

        • Gay Fordham Prep Grad

          Roy shall not be silenced!

          • MUELLER KNOWS

            Exactly

          • (((GC)))

            Let him be out of office, and become another millstone around the necks of the Greedy Old Party!

    • MUELLER KNOWS

      I’ve been saying a similar thing for awhile. There will be quite a bit of utility for the Dems if Moore becomes the face of the GOP alongside Trump.

      • Gay Fordham Prep Grad

        the only potential issue would be the perceived hypocrisy of the Dems in not voting to expel, but then hypocrisy has never stopped anyone in Washington before

        • MUELLER KNOWS

          No doubt if the Democrats let him stick around they’d be hypocrites, but all the heat and scorn would be on the GOP. He’s their man. I think it has the potential to be a shit show extraordinaire and do some real damage to the GOP brand. My guess is people like McConnell and Ted Cruz know that too as they’ve both called for his ouster from the race.

      • (((GC)))

        In a closely divided Senate, the fewer Republicans, the better. Doug Jones taking the seat may even tip the balance towards a Democratic majority after next year’s elections.

        • MUELLER KNOWS

          Absolutely. And as much as I long to see the GOP dragged through the mud with Moore, you’re right, in a tight Senate, getting an unexpected bonus pick up from Alabama(!) is preferable. The further the GOP is from a majority, the better.

      • (((GC)))

        If I were religious, I’d pray Psalm 109:8b for both of them, “May another take his office.” (But NOT in its horrible context!)

    • Ben in Oakland

      If Moore wins and is seated, we,re no worse off. If he loses, the world is better.

      I want him to run, myself.

    • Chucktech

      We should not normalize Alabama.

    • Ninja0980

      Feel the same way because IMO, Moore is the true face of the GOP like Trump is.
      Let them both be anchors around the rest of them.

  • Paula

    The timer popped out. He’s roasted. Take him out of the oven.

  • OdieDenCO

    being able to refuse a seat to a elected official, no matter how heinous sounds like a subversion of the will of the people to me. if Alabama wants moore to represent them in the Senate so be it. give him is day(s) in court then toss him out.

  • sword

    More than 35% of Alabama voters have said that they don’t care if Moore is a pedophile as long as he is not a Democrat. He reminds them of their beloved Uncle Bubba, a good old Pu$$y Grabbing Southern Baptist.

  • northern_neighbour

    Fascinating and Deadly Stuff. The universe will unfold as it will, however unpredictably.

    Personally I’d be pleased to see Jones win, … that will bring the TeaGOP Congress closer to the margin of impotence. But if Moore wins, gets seated or doesn’t get ejected by 66% vote of the other Senators, well, that will just ratchet up the Resistance going forward into the 2018 midterm campaign.

    The more outrageous the present (unconstitutional) pretence at “governance”, the more likely the ship can be turned by droves of people voting who before were too busy gazing at their own navels.

    One cannot say that the current American Morass is not mesmerizing, cuz it most definitely is, no matter how cruel or ugly or immoral.

    • kareemachan

      I wouldn’t say “mexmerizing”. I’d say gag-making.

      • northern_neighbour

        Fixating on Mexican undocumented … “Mexmerizing”

        But yeah, you could definitely GAG on all this stuff.

  • Ben in Oakland

    Do you mean some 7nelected politicians who don’t even wear black robes can nullify the will of the people?

    That’s not the America I grew up in.

  • AdamTh

    Roy, take some advice from Kenny Rogers…..

    “You’ve got to know when to hold ’em
    Know when to fold ’em”

    It’s time to fold, Roy…..

  • BobSF_94117

    The party nomination is not part of the legal electoral process. A candidate does not need to have a party behind him/her. If he wins the vote, he wins the vote. Period. He will be Alabama’s gift to the U.S. Senate. Now, the Senate may refuse the gift, but he can’t be substituted with anyone else.

    • I’m confused about the writing in the article also. “Parties” are private organizations. Maybe (likely/certainly) there is something I don’t know about election laws, but I’ve never read anything yet about a lack of endorsement making a candidate unviable. Except as a representative of the party. Everyday is a day to learn new things, and hopefully someone with a deep understanding of the process will weigh in. (Bob – you may be the person, I don’t know…)

      • BobSF_94117

        I’m no expert but I think the only salient point is that his name is on the ballot and it cannot be altered.

        Here’s some info on getting on the ballot in AL:

        https://ballotpedia.org/Ballot_access_requirements_for_political_candidates_in_Alabama

        You need the support of a certain number of people. I guess political parties, large ones, supply that qualification. But it’s not the only way.

        Nomination by a party is required to get on the ballot. I see nothing about getting off the ballot. At all. For anything. Including conviction.

        • good point on signatures: as an Independent, ‘random’ people would be signing the petition. Would they later be able to revoke their individual signature, potentially torpedoing the candidate? Can a Party do the same thing? If so, that would open the process to a lot of uncertainly for party-candidates. Don’t toe the line up to the election date: we will ‘revoke you’ the day before. That would lead to a lot of party instability, but… people make crazy choices sometimes.

          I’d like to see the end of Party dominance in the electoral process. They are unelected peoples that exert control over elected officials in a way that general citizens cannot.

          • BobSF_94117

            If you eliminate parties, you just leave the election to corporations.

            A party can rescind and revoke to its heart’s content. But it doesn’t change who has qualified for the ballot. Once on, it’s a done deal.

  • Jmdintpa

    there going to steal this election. someway somehow its going to the republican. mark it.

  • ColoMtnWoman

    The number of ignorant Alabamians that profess to “know what God thinks” is astounding. I’ll bet you could empty a box of corn flakes on the floor and they would spend hours looking for Jesus.

    But, hey, if they can continue to support the (PGiC) Pussy-Grabber-in-Chief, they can support anything.

    • (((GC)))

      The number of people around the world that profess to “know what God thinks” (as if we should care!) is astounding.

  • Jean-Marc in Canada

    Hahahahaha See the rats. See the rats run. See the rats fall into a trap of their own making. Laugh at the rats…as they drown.

  • Hmmm. Wouldn’t there be a third option: Moore contests their ability to pull his nomination, and takes the seat if he comes in first (unless and until the Senate expels him)?

  • From what I have seen of Republican commentary on this, it seems they are
    not bothered even if the allegations are true, because “Mary was underage when Joseph married her, and she gave birth to Jesus”, and “14 year old girls come on to older men all the time”. So it’s not a crime when Republicans do it.

  • MaryJOGrady

    Remembering the havoc the followers of Lyndon LaRouche used to visit on the Democrats, the schadenfreude is especially sweet for me now.