Two Birds, One Stone: White House Ponders Way To Return Sessions To His Senate Seat If Moore Wins

The New York Times reports:

Anxious Republican officials spent much of the weekend trying to determine what, if anything, they could do to halt Mr. Moore without simply turning over the seat. If Doug Jones, the Democratic nominee, wins, it would narrow the Republican advantage in the Senate to a single seat.

But if Mr. Moore stays in and goes on to win, it could leave Senate Republicans with the difficult question of whether to stop him from being seated or seating him and immediately moving to expel him from the chamber.

One idea now being discussed under this scenario, brought up by two different White House officials who spoke on condition of anonymity, would be for Gov. Kay Ivey of Alabama to block Mr. Moore if he wins, and then immediately appoint Attorney General Jeff Sessions to what had been his seat when it becomes vacant again.

Mr. Sessions remains highly popular among Alabama Republicans, but his relationship with President Trump has waned since he recused himself from the investigation of the role that Russia played in last year’s campaign.

  • Treant

    This could be good. Play those Alabamans for the fools they are, and perhaps one percent might actually notice.

  • Dan Ryan

    I want Sherman to return to the south and finish the job.

  • HZ81

    Jeff lied multiple times as the AG of the USA. He should be returned to an Alabama jail cell.

    • TrueWords

      One might think this is a brave step for McConnell but this has to do more with his power struggle with Bannon.

      While it’s important to get rid of Moore any way we can, it’s also important to recognize the impetus behind McConnell’s statement.

      These two awful men loathe each other, and siding with the women accusers is a convenient way to purge the Senate of the alt-right so that McConnell and his equally awful cronies can get on with the business of lining their pockets with donor cash.

      It was the right choice for the wrong reason.

      • David Lightfoot

        McConnell faces a very real threat of revolt from the Trumpers, even if they don’t have the votes to win.

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  • pch1013

    Calvinball.

  • Gov. Ivey doesn’t have the power to block anything like this.

    • Sam_Handwich

      that’s my thought, and even if she did it would seem rather risky, politically

    • JWC

      She is as crooked as them all

      • That’s not the point. There is no statutory or constitutional power a state governor has that can invalidate a federal election solely because he or she doesn’t want them to take office.

        • Lumpy Gaga

          Doesn’t state Sec’y of State serve at governor’s pleasure?

          I’m sure they’ve figured out how to transmit wishes and desires in Alabama without “coordinating”.

          • Ragnar Lothbrok

            ” Governors pleasure ” has a whole new meaning now.

          • Blocking the election of a U.S. Senator is a whole different level. Sorry, just not seeing ANY legal path to that happening.

          • drbrentzenobia

            Agreed, a US Senator is a federal employee. The state government has no jurisdiction once an election has been held to select a replacement, per the Seventeenth Amendment to the Constitution.

          • Exatron

            It depends on the state.

          • Bill Inama
        • JWC

          Point or not she is still croocked

          • McSwagg

            Croocked? Is that a portmanteau of crooked and crocked? Love it!

  • Sam_Handwich

    o/t
    jury deadlocked on all charges in Menendez trial

    • Mistrial then. Kinda what I was expecting, to be honest.

    • Paula

      Oh, that Menendez. I was thinking “aren’t they already in jail?”

      • Ragnar Lothbrok

        lol, me too. Cant believe there is ANOTHER movie being made about them.
        Who watches that shit ?

        • Paula

          My wife, that’s who. Much to the detriment of my immortal soul. She and one daughter are addicted to reality TV, also.
          Oh the horror.
          I don’t watch any show with the word housewives in the title.

          • Ragnar Lothbrok

            Well, my partner watches movies marketed to 13 yr old boys, so I guess I can’t say much.

          • Gustav2

            He’s just young at heart!

      • Gustav2

        The weird thing is he asked the ethics office if it was OK to do some of the things he did.

        • Paula

          Washington, D.C., remember.

        • I kinda think Menendez is skeezy as most NJ politicians are at some level, but yeah, charging him on stuff he asked to be cleared by the ethics office reeks of partisan prosecution.

      • ColdCountry

        My first thought, too. And someone said it’d been going on for 8 years, and I was, “Eight?? That was the 80s!”

      • Word is he’s sent them home, they’ll try again tomorrow. This is normal in these situations…and they’ll probably remain deadlocked.

  • JWC

    Hey “Murican how about doing whats good for the counrty and not good for GOP

    • TampaDink

      How are you feeling? Are you still in the rehab. facility?

      • JWC

        Nope been home for aweek

  • ccc
    • Sam_Handwich

      ty!

    • AmeriCanadian

      Beverly does not appear to be in need of any paltry offerings that WaPo might offer for her story.

    • djcoastermark

      So far Sooo good.

  • How would Gov. Ivey block Moore if he wins? What are the legal grounds here? The Senate could refuse to seat him, which would require Democratic votes, and then Ivey could appoint an interim replacement. But I’m really, really unclear how they stop Moore otherwise if he refuses to cooperate.

    • thom

      Yeah. The Senate could expell him but I would hope it’s unconstitutional for a Gov to overturn an election

      • In reading the article, it sounds like they aren’t talking about her acting unilaterally, but rather appointing Sessions after the Senate expels him. It’s a two-thirds vote, so it would require a combination of both Republicans and Democrats to expel him.

        • thom

          That makes sense

        • clay

          I would hope that enough Dems would abstain from voting on GOP internal politics.

    • Lazycrockett

      If the Senate refuses to seat him or expel him the Governor puts someone in.

  • Halou

    Wouldn’t they need him to be removed from the AG office first?

    • clay

      No, he could “choose” to resign.

  • thom

    I wrote this on an earlier thread…

    “Dan Savage has written about his “firsts” 
    First kiss when he was 15 with a guy over 20 and his first bf when he was still in high school and the guy was 28.
    He writes about them in a positive light.

    I’m surprised by how quickly the narrative has shifted in the gay community.”

    Are we only upset because of the hypocrisy?

    • edrex

      get back to me when one of those men runs for public office and dan savage names them as people who caused him harm.

      yes. the hypocrisy carries a lot of weight.

      and to be less hypothetical, many (most?) on this site have been highly critical of kevin spacey, so it seems there is a lot of consistency in attitudes about this sort of thing that transcends partisanship.

      • thom

        I agree about Spacey. And I’m happy to see most of us condemning him. That’s part of the reason I said “I’m surprised by how quickly the narrative has shifted in the gay community.”

        I’m in favor of this shift in narrative btw 🙂

  • Paula

    I don’t think that is how this is supposed to work.

  • Pollos Hermanos

    Aww man. The Senate custodian just got all the fart stench out of Sessions’ old chair.

    He’s not going to be happy.

  • Dayglo

    Now, that would be elfin magic.

  • Lazycrockett

    If Moore wins they will move on from all of this. Plus I highly doubt Sessions wants to give up his DOJ position.

    • clay

      Don’t matter what Liddle Jeffy wants.

  • Harveyrabbit

    So the choice is between an insane pedophile and a virulent racist. Today’s GOP at work.

    • Reality.Bites

      Be fair. They’re both virulent racists.

      • McSwagg

        Perhaps they’re both insane pedophiles as well. I’m sure Sessions has many sexual secrets in his past. That Rios propagandist/apologist has assured us that is true.

  • VodkaAndPolitics

    So, we’ve got a proven perjurer/ possible traitor who would then take the seat won by an accused serial pedophile… and nobody is talking about jail time.

    • TampaDink

      Jail time is only discussed in special cases….i.e. a Democrat is accused.

    • clay

      “an accused serial pedophile” and known to have contempt for rule of law.

  • Ragnar Lothbrok

    Didn’t already join the cast of SNL ?

  • Lazycrockett
  • Lazycrockett
  • TampaDink

    I didn’t think that the executive branch can appoint someone to the legislative branch.

    • AmeriCanadian

      Oh that was SO yesterday!

      • TampaDink

        I always forget (or try to, anyway) that we are living in trump world.

    • Ragnar Lothbrok

      That tree died.
      New branches now.

      • TampaDink

        The arsonists of the GOP have torched the entire forest.

        • ColdCountry

          Nah, they sold off the timber and then opened the land to strip mining.

    • clay

      No, it’s the GOP party, itself, that is arguing for McConnell to refuse to seat Moore (though that does not have a good legal history of happening) and having Gov. Ivey nominating a replacement, which would have to be Secessions. McConnell might not (be able to) play. Ivey might not (care to) play. Particularly when it’s to save Turmp’s ass from Turmp’s own appointments.

      • Adam King

        I don’t believe McConnell can singlehandedly refuse to seat an elected Senator. It takes a three-fifths majority vote of the Senate if I’m not mistaken.

  • canoebum

    Let the election go forward so the country can see just how many Alabama voters are willing to elect a child molester over a qualified Democrat. Besides, the longer this scrutiny of Moore goes on, the better are the chances his financial misdeeds will come to light. He may not go to prison on the child molestation, but before this over he may well end up convicted of financial or tax evasion charges.

  • Cuberly Deux

    OT: Hows about some nightmare fuel?

    “Roy Moore allegations prompt reflections on fundamentalist culture in which some Christian men date teens”

    “It’s not so uncommon that people would necessarily look at it askance,” said Nicholas Syrett, a University of Kansas professor who recently published a book on child marriage in America. “The South has a much longer history of allowing minors to marry, and obviously there’s some courtship or dating — whatever you want to call it — leading up to that.”

    “That courtship of underage girls is especially common in conservative religious communities.”

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2017/11/13/roy-moore-allegations-prompt-reflections-on-fundamentalist-culture-in-which-some-christian-men-date-teens/?utm_term=.c9d6ce677874

    A Mormon girl I dated for a short period of time in HS ended up marrying an elder in her church, not sure of his exact age but I know it was at least 40. She married when she was a Senior in HS.

    • ColdCountry

      That is just so icky. Fine example of rich old white guy privilege.

      • Cuberly Deux

        It’s a very OLD cultural norm, women as property. Men control who they see, what age is appropriate for them to date, marry.

        Not really a rich white guy thing.

        • ColdCountry

          The cultural norm of old rich white guys, maybe. Or maybe just old guys? (Sorry, not giving any slack here; it’s just too much for too long.)

    • BobSF_94117

      “… and obviously there’s some courtship or dating — whatever you want to call it — leading up to that.”

      I call it making a girl grab your dick.

      • Girlgoon

        They Use a AR15 if necessary. They’re not just for committing acts of terrorism you know it’s your right under the constitution.

        If only they wrote a sesame street version of the constitution maybe our president would have read it.

    • Snarkaholic

      Exhibit A: Those daddy/daughter dances.

      • Cuberly Deux

        Purity Balls right?

        Internally screaming right now. ARGH!

        • Christian1234567

          Those things creep me the fuck out.

    • sword

      Would it make any difference to Alabama voters, even if she was Moore’s daughter? At least, he’s not a Democrat.

  • alc2018

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d3d9209dc029d954ab2454945370dec16b0d5f82f0ee0b3bedb3f7d461e9e551.jpg all of a sudden I’ve gotten real popular, maybe they’ll think I’m a top afterall…don’t I look it?

    • Ragnar Lothbrok

      Lol, I died when he ( she ) pulled the state rat of Alabama out from the desk.

      • ColdCountry

        That’s not a rat, it’s a marsupial. (But I know what you mean.)

      • April

        Hey, hey, lets not hate on Opossums. They are far more useful than Republicans.

        • Ragnar Lothbrok

          Agreee. !!

        • Girlgoon

          An’ goooood eat’n !

    • JaniceInToronto

      WOW! Looks just like PharmaDouche!

  • Tomcat

    You guys don’t even try to hide how crooked you are anymore,,, bravo.

  • Tawreos

    It builds so much faith in free and fair elections when one of the two parties is planning shit like this.

    • Tomcat

      True, and without any regard to how it looks to the world no less.

    • clay

      When Putin became premier, again, after being term-limited out the first time, he had the Duma change the Russian governors into appointed positions– expect Turmp to claim the same once we get past the fresh memory of New Jersey and Virginia.

  • The_Wretched

    Moving the deck chairs around won’t save the titanic. Alternatively, they are bolted to the deck, you’re not normally allowed to move them.

    • Girlgoon

      Where can I get a couple big tugboats and an iceberg….

  • SkokieGuy [ChicagoAdjacentGuy]
  • grendel38

    the current NYT article contains different language than the excerpt above. The current NYT:
    “One idea now being discussed under this scenario, brought up by two different White House officials who spoke on condition of anonymity, would be for Gov. Kay Ivey of Alabama to immediately appoint Attorney General Jeff Sessions to what had been his seat when it becomes vacant again.”
    I don’t see how the AL governor could block Moore if he wins. But the language in the current NYT article makes sense — assuming the Senate expels Moore or refuses to seat him, the seat would again be vacant, and the governor could appoint another replacement to serve until a new special election (which would might even be held at the same time as next year’s general election).

  • Michael R
  • Tomcat

    GOP doing the REICH thing again.

  • AdamTh

    We are talking about some “banana republic”…. right??

    • AdamTh

      No offense to bananas…….

      • Girlgoon

        The Dole family were the banana kings

  • PickyPecker

    And just why would Sessions want to vacate the DOJ seat in favor of returning to the AL shithole?

    • Tomcat

      Because it is the REICH thing to do for the party. Screw the country.

    • William

      It prevents the seat from going to a Dem.

      • Boreal

        Ding, ding, ding. We have a winner.

    • clay

      So the Pwesident can fire Mueller, who’s on his way to getting Secessions fired. And he wouldn’t have to return to AL– most Senators spend much more time in DC than their home districts– Bob Dole’s “official” residence in Russell, KS, was his sister’s house, while he spent most of his nights with his wife in her Watergate Hotel suite.

      • McSwagg

        At least the Dole’s had an actual residence, even if it was his sister’s home. George H. W. Bush (the senior) listed the Houstonian Hotel as his official residence during his tenure in D.C. He and Barbs only bought a house when he left the White House.

  • Boreal

    “would be for Gov. Kay Ivey of Alabama to block Mr. Moore if he wins.”

    How can a state governor overturn the results of a federal election? Is there some archaic law I don’t know about. I know govs can appoint replacements but this seems strange.

    • Tomcat

      Wouldn’t it be a state election since only Alabama votes in it?

      • Boreal

        It is for a Federal seat though.

        • Tomcat

          Still a state election.

          • SFBruce

            True, but that doesn’t mean the governor of that state can block the results.

          • Boreal

            Exactly, not a state office.

          • SFBruce

            Even for a state office, I can’t imagine a governor just invalidating the results of an election. When there are disputes about electoral outcomes, it’s the courts that determine if fraud or other illegal acts affected the results.

          • Boreal

            It is bama but I still don’t think she has the power to invalidate an election without some compelling reason other than Moore being a dirtbag.

    • SFBruce

      This was my first thought, too. On the face of it, it seems outrageous that a governor could just overturn the results of an election. I can’t imagine the authority under which she could legally and ethically do such a thing. Of course, if the seat becomes vacant for whatever reason, she can certainly appoint a successor, but for now at least, Sessions has a job.

      • Boreal

        I doubt she would be willing to risk the wrath of her own voting bloc, same as Moore’s to do this.

    • Can’t. Anybody who says this can happen is delusional.

    • Stev84

      Nothing would surprise me in America

  • Is this the clown car I was promised so long ago. Guy bolly, I stink it iz!

  • William

    Sessions will be far too busy in the prison laundry to be a senator.

    • Tomcat

      If he works the prison laundry they will have to pry his nose out of the sheets.

      • clay

        I imagine they’ll have to pry his nose out of the sheets for him to work in the prison laundry.

        • Phil2u

          ha ha ha. … and wrestle the pillow out of his clenched jaws.

    • McSwagg

      Why would they put him in the laundry when he has such extensive experience baking cookies in a tree house?

  • Tomcat

    Has the GOP ruled out holding duels for the seat. They love duels.

    • Mikey

      preferably duels with hand grenades. I see it as a win-win.

    • McSwagg

      I’m hoping there will be trials soon.

  • Holy shit, he’s a monster.

  • Tomcat

    It would not surprise me to see trump fire Sessions, Sessions be appointed senator by Alabama governor and Mueller be appointed Attorney General by trump.
    I mean after all the world has gone straight to hell already so why would anyone care.

  • ColdCountry

    And who would be likely to replace Sessions? Roy Moore? Could that happen? (I’m asking legalities, but what might happen under Dump.)

  • Adam King

    Republicans just can’t seem to get through the day without scheming and plotting and figuring out new devious ways to scam and cheat and rig the system.

  • Friday’s_cat

    One good reason Democrats should letter bomb newspapers as staunch Christian Moore defenders who believe a woman’s place is in the stove.

  • Bob Conti

    Yup, those legal eagles at the White House sure engage in some hum-dingin’ magical thinkin’.

  • boatboy_srq

    This is the most private-sector-esque solution yet to come from this sorry nepotism-riddled excuse for an administration. “Can’t fire they guy, he’s too good a money-maker, and the leading candidate from the interviews is a train wreck; d’you think if we lateral-transfer him back to his old spot we can solve the problem?”

    “Returning Sessions to the Senate” is a bad idea for all concerned. It will hurt Sesssions at home, and with Moore clearly a viable candidate for AL GOP Sessios’ tenure after 2020 is hardly assured. It will do little to help the GOTea, since Sessions will likely see himself among the last-termers in that house and beat his own path, and since his disingenuousness in his confirmation hearings and subsequent statements have undermined his credibility with his once-and-future peers. It will help Lord Dampnut little since Sessions’part in the various scandals has so far been minor. And neither Sessions nor Moore will be useful to the Dems, although a loose-cannon Moore might be more damaging to GOTea agenda items.

    • Girlgoon

      Since we’re breaking every rule and law possible in presidential appointed positions why don’t we auction off all the cabinet positions and judgeships to Russian oligarchs along with dual citizenship and an offshore account.

  • metrored

    I’m not pinning my hopes on anything that starts with “White House ponders…”

  • TexasBoy

    How dare they plot against Judge Moore, a fine upstanding White Christian American that feels Religion and State are inseparable? He embodies all that is right with Christianity. This is just more evidence of a War on Christianity and a War on Christmas. /s

  • lymis

    Not to mention the totally coincidental fact that it would allow appointing a replacement AG who won’t recuse himself from the Russia investigation.

  • boobert

    The solution is for Jones to win ! If not, it will be interesting to see how Alabama voters react when their choice is not allowed to serve.

    • leastyebejudged

      I suspect that wouldn’t be of much long term benefit to anybody.

      This specific sect of Christianity is just itching for a persecution complex to wallow in.

  • Girlgoon

    OH HELL NO !!
    Sessions and moore should go straight to jail !!

  • Steven B

    Hey JMG. The link above is wrong. It leads to a different story.

  • Gianni

    How could a governor legally block a duly elected Senator from taking his seat in the Senate? That would mean the governor somehow could totally negate election results and throw out the people’s chosen representative. I can’t see how that could be legal.

  • LeeCMH

    The good ole boy club members protecting each other.

  • Kevin Andrews

    In a coffin after his execution for treason is the only way to return this demented lying top-cop to where he belongs; roasting in Hell with his maker.