REPORT: Mueller Probing If Flynn Conspired With Turkey To Kidnap Muslim Cleric For $15 Million Payoff

Talking Points Memo reports:

Special counsel Robert Mueller is investigating the role played by former national security adviser Michael Flynn in an alleged plot to forcibly remove a Muslim cleric living legally in the U.S. to Turkey in exchange for millions of dollars, the Wall Street Journal reported Friday.

The alleged plot described by the Journal involves a direct quid quo, in which Flynn and his son, Michael Flynn, Jr., would receive up to $15 million for successfully delivering Fetullah Gulen to the Turkish government.

More from NBC News:

The meeting allegedly took place at the upscale 21 Club restaurant in New York, just blocks away from Trump Tower, where Flynn was serving on the presidential transition team. Flynn was offered upwards of $15 million, to be paid directly or indirectly, if he could complete the deal, according to two sources familiar with the meeting.

It is unclear how Flynn, as national security adviser, could have successfully carried out the alleged request. But any deal in which a government official would be bribed to secretly act on behalf of a foreign government could potentially constitute multiple federal crimes.

  • safari

    Oh, look, it’s snowing again.

  • Do Something Nice

    If this is true, a national security advisor conspiring with a foreign government to kidnap someone on US soil for profit, this will blow the lid off the Trump crime syndicate. Remember how Trump called Erdogan to praise and congratulate him? It is probably connected.

    • ChrisMorley

      It’s not just ‘someone’. Fetullah Gulen is Erdogan’s number one political opponent, and Erdogan has locked up thousands of supposed supporters of Fetullah Gulen.

  • Smokey

    This administration is certainly making it more difficult for espionage thriller authors to devise new plots. Truth is stranger than fiction.

    • Glenn E Ross

      Good espionage writers would reject what is being revealed as too simplistic, obvious and unbelievable. Whoda guess that a clown car primary would result in an administration of amateur clowns.

    • Goodboy
      • Tawreos

        Poorly conceived and almost entirely unbelievable lies.

        • Snarkaholic

          …which are perfect for his “poorly-conceived” voters.

          • Robincho

            That they were conceived at all is the real pity here…

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      • Snarkaholic

        …and fries…

  • TrueWords

    No other way to look at this after it was official that he was the incoming NSA, than privately selling public service/action.

  • another_steve

    He sounds nice.

  • TrueWords

    James Woolsey attended a meeting on September 19, 2016 with Flynn and a representative of the Turkish Government where a kidnapping was discussed.

    He attended a meeting with the same Turkish Govt official the next day to offer to take $10 M to merely discredit the Cleric, rather than kidnap him to be executed in Turkey.

    James Woolsey continued to appear on television to promote Trump Campaign talking points and to accuse Hillary Clinton of criminality.

    Now he has presumably flipped to save his own ass.

    • coram nobis

      James Woolsey? Former CIA Director? That one?

      • The_Wretched

        Same one. He’s made public statements about the meeting.

    • Pluto Animus

      Woolsey immediately informed Vice President Biden after the meeting (via an intermediary).

      So he already covered his ass with regard to informing the government in a timely manner.

      The fact that he continued to help Trump merely makes him a moral traitor with no conscience, as opposed to a law-breaking traitor who faces prison time or execution.

  • FancyThat
  • SoCalGal20

    I need another indictment before Thanksgiving!!!

    • AlternativeQuacks

      I need 4 minimum, preferably ten or eleven.

      • Treant

        You’re like me. At least once a day or you’re just not happy.

    • Nick in Pasadena

      Everyone seemed to be anticipating indictments of Flynn and son last week. Now we know that Mueller was waiting to get even more dirt.

  • PickyPecker

    ‘But I didn’t ask for the Mueller probe.’

    • Todd Allis

      No one expects the Mueller Inquisition.

    • Lumpy Gaga

      I didn’t ask for the Mueller probe.

  • james1200

    He wouldn’t be this reckless unless he’s either a complete moron or more likely (since complete morons are rare) he’s one of those masochists that wants to be caught and punished.

    https://media.giphy.com/media/QOxhTxrVyHQCk/giphy.gif
    https://media.giphy.com/media/l4FGB5evzD8UQqVd6/giphy.gif

    • Bambino

      Don’t underestimate the delusion of those with power. The same brazen behavior of those who sexually assaulting their fellow coworkers and underlings apply similarly to those who would corrupt in other ways.

      • james1200

        That makes sense. He probably felt invulnerable because of his connection to both Trump and Putin.

    • Goodboy

      This gif will be much sweeter when he’s actually locked up. They can do the perp walk gif next to it.
      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/513b68f7d2a6c5a325e2c20dfb849595260d1b833d03020f9d773b5ed8f001a6.png

    • Judas Peckerwood

      It’s called “hubris”.

      • Ragnar Lothbrok

        Do people smoke it ?

        • Judas Peckerwood

          It usually ends up smoking them.

    • Nick in Pasadena

      It’s called hubris, and it has been the downfall of overconfident assholes for centuries.

    • JackFknTwist

      Never underestimate the number of morons……look at the election results.

  • The_Wretched

    Most. Corrupt. Admin. Ever.

    I get the feeling that international entities never even considered approaching Obama admin officials and were very limited on the Cheney Admin.You’d think that offers to abduct Gullen would have been reported straight to FBI.

  • PickyPecker
  • Halou

    America last!

  • PickyPecker
    • narutomania

      Bwa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha !!!!! The perfect meme to start my weekend !!!!!

    • JCF

      Funny, but mistaken: they absolutely continue to investigate, after arrests are made (remember, they want an AIRTIGHT case, leading to CONVICTION. To get an indictment/arrest, the standards are not nearly as high).

  • Mikey

    um Talking Points Memo… “But any deal in which a government official would be bribed to secretly
    act on behalf of a foreign government could potentially constitute
    multiple federal crimes.” no, that does not “potentially constitute” crimes. That is the VERY DEFINITION of treason.

  • Max_1
  • Paula

    If this can be proven, Flynn needs to spend some serious time in prison.
    I think this might be a good time for Fetullah Gulen to go off the grid.

    • Lumpy Gaga

      “I don’t know if he’s off the grid, but he did stay in Pennsylvania last night.”

    • William

      Flynn should go to military prison.

      • Paula

        Chelsea Manning’s old cell is waiting for him.

        • The_Wretched

          And with the same holding conditions.

          • Paula

            No, not as nice as they treated her.

          • The_Wretched

            It was intentionally torturous how they held her.

          • Paula

            Yes, it was. This guy was a General. Let him get similar treatment.

  • Ninja0980

    Lock him up!
    Lock him up!

    • Lumpy Gaga

      If nothing else, it’ll save time.

  • Raising_Rlyeh

    Maybe father and son can share a cell together.

    • William

      That would make dating awkward.

      • mpatreyu

        Oh I don’t know. Where are they from?

        • Ben in Oakland

          Al Abama.

      • edrex

        in alabama that would be biblically acceptabe.

  • AlternativeQuacks

    Jackpot! Rohrabacher is gonna get nailed too.

    https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/929049549037096960

    • Treant

      Awesome. I’ve wanted Dana the Demented to go down for a long time.

      …let me rephrase that.

    • Tread

      FUCK. YES..

    • Bryan

      “There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” Rep. Kevin McCarthy joked on June 15, 2016…
      “Swear to god.”

      Rohrabacher wanted to get rid of the Magnitsky Act…

  • Tawreos

    I can’t wait to hear the excuse for this one. It doesn’t matter who offers what amount when the subject of kidnapping comes up the conversation should be over.

  • Lazycrockett

    This is some 3rd World dictator type shit.

    • Tawreos

      In what used to be viewed as the first world beacon of democracy.

  • Tawreos

    When Mueller really gets going with this thing I hope he sells programs. You can’t keep track who is being indicted without a program.

    • PickyPecker
      • AlternativeQuacks

        I don’t see Ghouliani in there.

        • Gerry Fisher

          He’s been quiet lately, hasn’t he?

          • Tread

            Hmm. Odd, isn’t it?

          • William

            He doesn’t want to catch Mueller’s eye.

          • Tread

            I think he already has. Hence, the silence.

      • Jon Doh

        Reopen Alcatraz with no renovations and lock them all up there.

        • Tawreos

          Make them part of the tour

        • Paula

          And let the tourists toss french fries at them through the fence….

          • Paula Key

            with paper towels…

      • whollyfool

        I like the version with Putin as the middle square

        • William

          He’s such a bitch!

        • Robincho

          Paul Lynde would surely have something to say about that…

          • whollyfool

            LOL

    • The_Wretched

      I always thought I was more politically informed than most. I never thought I’d have to know such a long list of transition staff and appointees. In normal America, the CIA director is someone you hear from once or twice in 4 years when they are giving some general speech at a public forum. Now, Pompeo is notable for his obstruction of basic Russia investigation. And there’s this list of everyone else from Flynn to ‘the coffee boy we send on international trips’. It’s ridiculous how much you have to know to be even superficially conversant on who the actors are let alone the various in and outs of their particular corruptions and lies.

      • Tawreos

        Don’t feel too bad, it is usually just one or two that are in trouble instead of the whole damn team.

        • Ben in Oakland

          They,re not in trouble. They are in alt-blessedness.

    • Robincho

      This thing about whom to indict
      Is lasting all day and all nict.
      All of the people
      Unable to sleep’ll
      Be shitting their knickers with frict…

  • Paula
    • james1200

      Too bad we’re not China. They know what to do with those that commit treason. Hell, they even execute corporate executives over there.

      • Tawreos

        What if we took North Korea’s lead on this and fired up the anti-aircraft guns?

      • coram nobis

        That’s right; if your factory delivers a load of poison baby food and it embarrasses the central gov’t, they won’t take it kindly. They don’t like bad PR.

        • Robincho

          It’s so much less bother when the babies you eat have not been poisoned…

    • Snarkaholic
      • Paula

        I see what you did there. 🙂

      • boatboy_srq

        Only if we can use railroad spikes.

  • SoCalGal20
    • Ben in Oakland

      When you reach out, do you grab a pussy?

  • Karl Dubhe

    I was expecting the wagons to pick them up on Wednesday.

    They’re late.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/68afe54c8cd5cc25297cd0aa011cd7adf6129262ddfe2757d1637e1995a656f6.gif

  • Ben in Oakland

    And the hits just keep on coming!

  • Sam_Handwich
    • Treant

      Fuck you, Ala-fucking-bama, you’re fucking dead to me.

      • Tawreos

        Forgive me for asking, but I can’t see the tweets. What did they do now?

        • Sam_Handwich

          sorry

          New @DecisionDeskHQ AL-SEN poll, conducted yesterday:
          Roy Moore—46.4
          Doug Jones—46.0

          • Tawreos

            Thank you. This actually looks good Moore was ahead by 8 or 9 points last I looked.

        • Treant

          Post all this, Moore is still leading by 0.4 percent.

        • AlternativeQuacks

          Moore and Jones are tied in a poll conducted yesterday, with Moore 0.4 points ahead. I think Treant is mad that it’s even close, but a tied race in Alabama is a small miracle.

    • AlternativeQuacks

      Yeah, I don’t know why the Democratic party isn’t getting more involved in this race. It does look like it’s winnable for Jones, even though it is Alabama. Then again, they may have their own internal polling.

      • Sam_Handwich

        i think a hands-off approach, or at least the appearance of that, is better off for Jones. otherwise it’s seen as “them east coast urban librul elites shoving it down our throats!”, etc

        • Tawreos

          For as much time as the spend fantasizing about things being shoved down their throats you’d think they belong here with us.

          • boatboy_srq

            Remenber, according to their own abstinence education, blowjobs aren’t sex.

          • Tawreos

            Neither is anal, sometimes they make it hard to figure out why they don’t like us. Is it because we enjoy sex without shame?

          • boatboy_srq

            Anything enjoyed without shame – besides shaming other people for enjoying it – is bad.

        • Reality.Bites

          If New Hampshire and Iowa, is it, with the early caucuses? If they had that attitude we’d be so much better off.

        • boatboy_srq

          If I could believe Moore would step in deep enough shyte to make him toxic to Alabamans, they yes. But we’re still a ways from dead-girl/live-boy territory.

          • coram nobis

            It would have to have him in a plot to kidnap the entire Vienna Boys’ Choir and sell them for personal profit — and even then he’d still be 2-3 points ahead in the overnight polls.

          • boatboy_srq

            Wouldn’t work. They’re Austrians, which makes them Yoorowpeeun and therefore suspect.

            The boy soprano section of the Mormon Tabernacle Choir would work.

          • coram nobis

            The trial ain’t over till somebody sings.

    • Treant

      ETA: Disregard that second one, it double-posted for some weird reason!

    • Reality.Bites

      God I need my glasses. At first glance I thought this tweet was from Lesbian Monkey.

      Still figured if Sam posted it it was worth reading even if it was from a sapphic simian.

    • The_Wretched

      hmmm, 4% fringe / other – it’s like those are there every election. Quick, let’s blame them for everything!!

      4% undecided is pretty low. That means most everyone who is planning on voting has made up their mind (at least provisionally) and has been messaged.

  • JackFknTwist

    So attended that meeting at the 21 Club with the Flynns ?

  • Paula

    I don’t know what to think of my country, anymore. I used to be proud of the U.S.. Now, I have become ashamed of what it has become. These terrible people are in charge, violating multiple laws, and they may getting away with it.
    They want all of us subjugated. Our own leaders hate our freedom because it doesn’t match their views. They want us to be Russia or Turkey.
    This is about ruling, not governing.

    • djcoastermark

      Or Venezuela or, yeah, I am also another person who cannot say proud of the US anymore.

    • GayOldLady

      No Honey, they’re NOT going to get away with it. This is going to be the biggest scandal in U.S. History when Mueller unwinds this story.

      • Opinion Sousaphones

        That is what I am hoping… and worried that I am being a fool for hoping that.

        • GayOldLady

          You’re not a fool. All the evidence points to it. I think everyone in Trumps orbit is either directly or indirectly involved with the Russians, including his VP who was hand selected by Paul Manafort and who covered for Mike Flynn and lied to the public to cover DJT’s unlawful firing of Comey. Almost the entire cabinet is going down.

          • The_Wretched

            They should but will not. There’s strong pressure to keep the clean up to “Trump People” narrowly defined. The powers that be won’t let Mueller’s brief get more than Trump family, transition team and their flunkies. The “noble class” won’t bite it.

          • GayOldLady

            I disagree. I think we’ll see Pence, Tillerson, Mnuchin, Sessions, Zinke, Devos and Ross all go down in this. I also think we’ll find out that a lot of the money that’s financing the RNC is coming from Russian Oligarchs and their proteges.

          • The_Wretched

            Most of your list was on the transition. All but Zinke and Devos. Mnuchin has his own financial crimes as does Ross.

            I’d love the RNC to get swept up too but I fear its a step too far.

          • GayOldLady

            Well, we know that the Russians made a debut at the Republican National Convention and were invited behind the scenes to private events. I don’t think they went for the hors d’oeuvres

          • geoffalnutt

            Blavatnik?

          • ColdCountry

            If that happens, I might just start believing in Santa Claus.

      • coram nobis

        There may be worse revelations in there as well. This is just what floated to the top of the cauldron. Bubble bubble, more toil and trouble, methinks.

        • GayOldLady

          You’re absolutely right. All it took was one stir for all the particulate poop to rise to the surface. Mueller has folks who are on the bottom of the cauldron scraping it. They have every financial record, every tax return, every international transaction of any sort made by these people and the people who work for these people.

          • coram nobis

            A criminal enterprise usually has all sorts of mischief going.

            Spats Colombo: Hello, copper. What brings you to Miami?

            Mulligan: Heard you “opera lovers” were having a convention, so I thought I’d better be around in case anybody decided to sing.
            — “Some Like It Hot”

          • Ragnar Lothbrok

            I want to be the guy by the cauldron who cranks the heat.

          • GayOldLady

            Please do!

          • ColdCountry

            Oh, lordy, I hope you’re right!

      • Randy503

        I’m hoping the Mueller team is taking notes so they can write the tell-all book later. It would be great to see what they learned and when.

    • boatboy_srq

      They want to be Imperial Russia or the Ottoman Empire. Otherwise, though, you’re entirely correct.

    • Grumpy Old Man

      I was in Australia when Reagan bombed Muammar Gaddafi’s palace, killing one of his nieces. The Aussies cheered but I cursed and got a lot of stink-eye. Few bothered to draw a line from that attack to Locherbie – I understand that he was supporting terrorism around the world but there are laws, both national and international, against assassinating foreign leaders. I disagreed with the notion that we had to stoop to their level to fight them.

  • Ben in Oakland

    There is some good news in this. Reagan had one of the most corrupt presidencies around, if I recall, though he himself was not.

    Until now.

  • Adam Stevens

    The nerve of this guy to stand in front of an audience chanting ‘lock her up’ is something I don’t think I’ve had the pleasure of witnessing in my lifetime.

    What nerve.

  • Jeffrey
    • bkmn

      Send the top pic to Merriam-Webster to use in their listing for ‘lapdog’

  • bkmn

    I wonder how much longer Flynn and son will be walking free.

    • Treant

      Incoming Presidential Pardon!

      (not really, I don’t think Trump cares enough to bother, and his counsel will tell him about that giving up the right to plead the Fifth thing).

  • boatboy_srq

    Last time I heard of anything like this discussed at the federal level, it was 1800, the kidnappers were Barbary Pirates, and the US went to war to stop it.

    This maladministration is more like a bad Sopranos episode with each passing day.

    • ultragreen

      I’ve been reading about CIA activities in the US. There have been cases of the CIA kidnapping people legally living in the US who are not US citizens and taking them to secret ‘black sites’ within the US.

      • Opinion Sousaphones

        Interesting. Who/when/where?

        • The_Wretched

          Bush the Lesser’s entire “extraordinary rendition” program. Sometimes we sent people to former Soviet torture sites in Poland and other times we handed them over to the Syrians for torture. German plane spotters were instrumental in getting the initial information. They noticed off the books private jets going unusual locations and on weird schedules.

          The FBI got in on it too. There’s one cluster-F that really upset the Italians – to the point that they have warrants out for the US agents. Finding the links to the stories is a PITA by the way. Partly from time and partly from the stories getting intentionally burried.

          When Guantanamo came out, Cheney was surprised it was a big story as that was just where they dumped the left overs. The “GWOT” and secret law (thanks Alberto Gonzales & John Yoo) meant US agencies were picking up US citizens and non citizens from literally anywhere and without local cooperation.

          Bush the Lesser is thought of a war criminal on par with Nazi Germany for these programs in many places.

          • Opinion Sousaphones

            Ah… disturbing, but not entirely surprising.

        • ultragreen

          It’s in the book, The Ghost: The Secret Life of CIA Spymaster James Jesus Angleton (2017) by Jefferson Morley. It involved a Russian defector during the cold war who Angleton thought was a Russian spy, although no evidence justifying that opinion was ever found. The Russian defector was confined to a secret CIA safe house (aka ‘black site’) where he was strapped to a bed and underfed for several weeks. The CIA safe house was located in the eastern United States. I can provide more details if you want, but it would take some time looking up the specifics in this book.

          • ultragreen

            I would add, that the Russian defector was a legal resident of the United States, and there was no court order to detain him by the CIA.

          • Opinion Sousaphones

            Do you remember the name of the defector? I cannot afford to buy books, but I could google his name… no rush, reply when you get around to it. Actually, I should just good that author’s name.

          • ultragreen

            The Russian defector was Yuri Nosenko. He was detained in the attic of a CIA safe house in Maryland for 4 years during the 1960s. The CIA eventually released him in 1969 and cleared him of any charges about being a double-agent. There is a Wikipedia article on Yuri Nosenko. The author of the book that I’m reading takes a dim view of how the CIA treated Nosenko.

      • boatboy_srq

        Yes. But that was still US resources and US facilities. Flynn’s idea was PAYING a FOREIGN POWER to do the kidnapping. This is not merely an end run around the justice system and international norms.

    • Tomcat

      Man you sure are old!

      • boatboy_srq

        And still young enough to roll you over and – well, why spoil the surprise….

    • coram nobis

      Last time we had anything like this, it was called “rendition,” and fairly common during Bush 43’s tenure. See, e.g., Mohamed et al. v. Jeppesen Dataplan, Inc., 579 F.3d 943 (9th Cir. 2009).

      What’s new is someone trying to make a personal profit off it.

      • Opinion Sousaphones

        So, there could be a rendition that was “above board” and a payment for the rendition that was hidden.

        • coram nobis

          A secret rendition for official reasons, and the Jeppesen case upheld the “state secret” privilege for it. Something else if your goons are trying to pocket kickbacks for it.

        • coram nobis

          Either way, it’s extralegal. What’s new is the Al Capone bit.

      • boatboy_srq

        Kidnapping as means of spprehending “suspects” does not involve a fee (unless we’re discussing Blackwater). Kidnapping for an explicitly stipulated fee, suggested and negotiated at the federal level with a foreign power, hasn’t been in the US playbook before now.

        • coram nobis

          That’s right, so it’ll be an interesting question on a Crim. Law exam.

          • The_Wretched

            Law drafters can’t think of all the scenarios. Who would have guessed at half the fact patterns we’re seeing with this Admin?

          • coram nobis

            They try to think of them, believe me.

            Crim. Law Professor: So, here’s a hypothetical. A tennis pro is in a bar, and he’s demonstrating his championship-winning technique with a tennis racket. He kills a patron on the backswing. What crime has he committed? Um, [Coram Nobis]?
            Me: Involuntary manslaughter. And racketeering.
            Class: EWWWW.
            Me: (bad Bogart imitation) Lissen, I know a racket when I see one.

  • ultragreen

    That’s such a crazy scheme. Secretly kidnapping a Muslim cleric in the United States for money and extraditing him to a foreign country. Do our government officials in the defense and intelligence services engage in this kind of activity often, or was this just an isolated case?

  • Erik Prince is sure to figure in all of this.

  • GayOldLady

    Next up, the sound of the BIG shoe getting ready to drop. And they have more on Flynn than this, but with this they get Flynn Jr too, who could be the bargaining chip to get Flynn to flip on Trump’s involvement in collusion with Russia. Flynn Jr, may get a reduced sentence. Mike Flynn Sr, is going away for a long, long time.

    • William

      Flynn Jr needs to spend at least ten years behind bars.

      • GayOldLady

        He’ll be there longer than that.

    • Ben in Oakland

      That would be nice.

    • Gianni

      I find it fascinating to try imagining how FUX News will report it when the first major player flips on Donnie for a deal and reveals the startling news that he really did know about at least some of the ‘collusion-like’ meetings with various Russians. You know, when the Russia Ruse becomes reality. I know they’ll slam the haters, and Bob Mueller, and Hillary, and the Democrats, call it the worst conspiracy ever to bring down this wonderful President, shout and gnash their teeth calling at the top of their lungs for more investigations of Hillary, etc, etc. But it won’t change a thing. How will they be able to “honestly” report the news? Forget the “honestly’ part. I’m being totally rhetorical.

  • coram nobis

    The question I have is whether this rendition — the term the Guardian story uses — would require US gov’t or contractor personnel to provide the muscle. If so, it brings a whole new wad of illegalities into the story.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/nov/10/michael-flynn-trump-turkish-dissident-cleric-plot

    It would have been one thing if the US officially extradited Gülen for reasons of state or judicial order. But a rendition for a personal payoff of $15m?

    John Le Carré, call your office.

  • AlternativeQuacks

    OT – Ugh. Another vehicle attack, this time in Toulouse, France.

    • Sam_Handwich

      Toulouse L’attack

    • Jean-Marc in Canada

      Thankfully no deaths. Sadly, the driver, 28, is believed to be a schizophrenic off his meds. There may also be a drug deal motive as well as they believe the three students may have been targeted specifically. Of course, this is all still early reporting but political/religious motive is doubtful.

  • Natty Enquirer

    “It is unclear how Flynn, as national security adviser, could have successfully carried out the alleged request.” Access to the executive administration of the United States probably helps just a bit.

    • He was SUPPOSED to get a top NatSec position and wanted NSA or CIA. Which would’ve made it totally possible. But they backed off at the last minute and went for National Security Adviser.

    • coram nobis

      It means they’d have all the muscle necessary for a rendition. Trouble is, Flynn may have had trouble with senior officials in the administration who would have wanted their cut. He wasn’t going to pocket $15m and have Don Donald’s people do it for him for free.

  • Anywho… Yeah, conspiracy and money-laundering (ala Manafort) is one thing. This is way, way bigger.

    • GayOldLady

      Much, much bigger

      • Jean-Marc in Canada

        Mafia level bigger.

  • Jean-Marc in Canada

    Ok, I did nazi that coming. I knew something was going to drop today, but this??? Wow!

  • -M-

    Kidnapping, bribery, conspiracy…

    • Jean-Marc in Canada

      Just another day in Trump’s America.

  • Skeptical_Inquirer

    I swear it’s like America decided it needed an enema, laxative and a douche all at the same time.

    • coram nobis

      You’ll find all three at the White House.

    • Reality.Bites

      Doctor: I’m going to need a blood sample, a urine sample, a stool sample and a semen sample.

      Patient, cheerfully: Here, take my underwear!

    • Ben in Oakland

      We don’t need all three. We had the douche for nearly a year.

  • Herald

    That’s…not something I would have predicted.

  • Robincho

    With all this stuff about Turkey and Cyprus and whatnot, I certainly hope that Flynn’s cellmate will remember to use Greece…

    • Lars Littlefield

      You win worst pun of the week.

      • Robincho

        Aw shucks, ya big palooka…

  • Michael R
  • Professor Barnhardt

    This came from a DC-area listserv for people who listen to scanners — for radio transmissions involving police, fire, railroads, aircraft, whatever. A few streets in downtown DC were closed earlier this week, and the scanner listeners were wondering why. Here’s why:

    Turkey’s Prime Minister Heads to Washington Amid Rising Tensions …

    https://www.voanews.com/a/turkish-prime-minister-heads-washington-rising-tensions/4102651.html

    ISTANBUL — Turkish Prime Minister Binali Yildirim heads to Washington Tuesday to meet with U.S. Vice President Mike Pence, as relations between the NATO allies endure a rocky period.

  • Pluto Animus

    This story broke seven and half months ago.

    How did all of us miss it? We were in the middle of the health care upheaval.

    Now we can give this story its due. Meanwhile, the news media can’t even call a spade a spade: the kidnapping plan is referred to as ‘returning’ Gulen, or ‘delivering’ him. Idiots.

  • JCF

    Lock Him Up!!!!

  • Ann Kah

    “…secretly act on behalf of a foreign government…” That’s not sufficiently strong language to use for a plan to KIDNAP a person and turn him over to a hostile power for imprisonment and/or murder.

  • leastyebejudged

    The people that claim they do shit for their country are really doing it for the money ?

    Who knew.