Jerry Falwell Jr. Backs Roy Moore: The Voters Know He’s More Credible Than The Women Who Accused Him

Religious News Service reports:

“It comes down to a question who is more credible in the eyes of the voters — the candidate or the accuser,” said Jerry Falwell Jr., the president of evangelical Liberty University who has endorsed Trump and Moore, both Republicans.

“The same thing happened to President Trump a few weeks before his election last year except it was several women making allegations,” Falwell told RNS in an email. “He denied that any of them were true and the American people believed him and elected him the 45th president of the United States.”

In a follow-up email, Falwell noted Moore’s denial of the allegations, saying: “And I believe the judge is telling the truth.”

  • Frostbite

    I’m a voter. I know he’s not more trustworthy than my dog’s turd.

    • Gustav2

      Now, now, your dog’s turd doesn’t pretend to be anything but what it is.

      • netxtown

        I’ve seen some pretend to be a Baby Ruth….

        • Todd20036

          alt-chocolate.

          • TuuxKabin

            Carob bars.

          • Todd20036

            *shrug* Those are good treats for dogs at least.

          • TuuxKabin

            True. Non toxic, unlike chocolate.

        • Gustav2

          The turd wasn’t pretending, but like a Trump voter you saw what you wanted to see.

          • netxtown

            you are probably right. it certainly didn’t taste like a baby ruth

      • Lumpy Gaga

        Turd doesn’t fall far from the dog.

  • HZ81

    So Christ-like, this guy.

  • Yalma Cuder-Zicci

    Is he trying to get more Liberty University grads to send back their diplomas?

  • olandp

    The American public didn’t say they didn’t believe the allegations. They said that they didn’t care.

    • Todd20036

      Well, alabamians don’t give a shit anyway.

      • Bambino

        I think it needs to be rename to Alabamiakkkluxstan.

        • Ben in Oakland

          Or Just Al Abama for short.

        • thatotherjean

          I rather like Juanita Jean, who blogs at “The World’s Most Dangerous Beauty Salon” and refers to the state as Aladamnbama.

    • Sashineb
      • Paul Ohbehr L

        Now I know why they’re born again Christians, they can be born again and again. They’re never wrong.

      • JackFknTwist

        As Holden Caulfield said :
        “Old Jesus would just puke.”

  • Steverino

    Right-wing ideological tribalism. That’s all this is.

  • netxtown

    Oh how I do hope this is that fuck’s undoing. If the women at that “university’ don’t get it by now – they are forever lost to be chattel.

    • Todd20036

      You’ve answered your own question.

      They’ll never get it. They’re lost.

      If they ever have children who are molested, they’ll either blame the kid, or simply say God forgave.

    • Schnackenpfefferhausen

      “It comes down to a question who is more credible in the eyes of the voters — the candidate or the accuser…” It sounds like he’s saying it’s more important to sway public opinion in your favor than to behave morally. So then he’s not really a Christian it would seem.

      • netxtown

        I found that statement to just drip with exactly what women have been saying all along. He just put power and authority over all elese – especially some silly woman saying that sthe almighty CEO Joe was a little too nasty with them.
        Fuck him.

      • netxtown

        being the ‘candidate’ is male – I took it as a slam towards women. As for xtian…naaaa…he’s all grifter.

  • Otis Thecat

    And the right wonders why we have a problem with some “Christians.”

  • Todd20036

    Falwell is ok with this.

    I’m shocked.

    Shocked I say.

    Where is my shocked face?

  • TuuxKabin

    Ancient Rome must have been the best civilization. Got to that damn source.

  • Rebecca Gardner

    I want to wear my pointiest toed high heels and kick him right in the balls.
    Is that wrong? I don’t think so.

    • RaygunsGoZap

      Balls. Teeth. Temple.

    • alguien

      i doubt he has any

    • Ron Robertson

      Yes it is wrong. Why ruin some perfectly good shoes on garbage like that?

    • Tawreos

      I think we can make those steel toed pointy shoes before you do your kicking.

    • netxtown

      not wrong if they are guided by divine justice!

    • Treant

      Me, too.

      :-p

      • Joe in PA

        You have pointy toed heels? You go!

        • Mike_in_the_Tundra

          I do. In a size 14 too.

    • Anastasia Beaverhousen

      May I join you? I will bring my Chanel’s

      • Joe in PA

        Now don’t you feel bad for blaming Rosario? Hmmmm?

    • Bob Conti

      How about you AND the Rockettes doing a line kick in his balls?

      • Tawreos

        That is one of the most beautiful images ever, thank you!

        • Bob Conti

          All to the music of the Nutcracker Suite.

          • Tawreos

            Stop, the joyful tears are threatening to blind me =)

    • /

      LOL that’s cute that you think he has balls.

    • Just remember he’s doing a damn good job at mass deconversion of his own cult.

    • olandp

      Works for me!

    • Bambino

      You should consider the cleaning after. Unless it’s a pair you are ready to dispose of.

  • Cuberly Deux

    Translation: “Pfft, they’re just women.”

  • Friday’s_cat

    Here’s a question, Junior, who is Moore credible in the eyes of your Jesus?

    • RaygunsGoZap

      Ha! Trick question! Jesus isn’t real.

  • Skeptical_Inquirer

    If a woman votes GOP and/or goes to this guy’s church, she’s for her and her future descendants to be open to being sexually attacked AND then being dragged as lying jezebels tempting “good” men to their doom.

  • hdtex
  • bkmn

    Hitch your wagon to a pedophile, what could go wrong?

    • Todd20036

      Trump…

  • Boreal

    I knew it were the fault of dem wimmen.

    • Hue-Man

      Tempting innocent men with their apples for 6,000 years.

      • Ben in Oakland

        perky apples!

  • NMNative

    The apple did not fall far from the tree with this one. As bad or worse than his father.

    • Ben in Oakland

      The road apple does not fall far form the horse.

  • Lazycrockett
    • Cuberly Deux

      Ah Twitter.

      (Eyeroll)

      • /

        Stupidity in 140 now extra-strength 280 character doses.

    • Ben in Oakland

      even less so about Al Abama.

    • Todd20036

      there a reason i don’t twit

    • greenmanTN

      https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/2uf3rl3.jpg

      (Despite it coming from the odious Scott Adams.)

      • chaotik_lord

        Scott Adams’ personal views have shifted into something really disappointing from the mild-mannered, vegetarian, cat-owning libertarian of years past. I wonder what happened.

        That said, he is still dead funny and spot on about 90% of the time through his characters.

  • Ninja0980

    No one is shocked by this right?

  • Lazycrockett

    Remember women were in league with the serpent to take down mankind.

    • Rebecca Gardner

      Ah yes, Genesis. Where men make up stupid fucking stories to blame all their assholery on women, or why it should be so fucking obvious I’m an atheist.

      • Lazycrockett

        Eve confused Adam and made him eat that apple with her perky breasts.

        • Bluto

          It’s all about the bewbies.

      • Ron Robertson

        Someday I want some religious nut to answer my question about why an all-powerful god needs people to worship it. It’s very weak and needy of their god.

        • Tulle Christensen

          Trump is not all-powerful

        • AmeriCanadian

          How blasphemous!

  • Rebecca Gardner

    Pedophilia doesn’t count if you’re a Republican or a fake Christian. DUH!!

    • Michael White

      Is fake christian redundant?

  • KCMC
    • Lumpy Gaga

      That horse’s side-eye tells me all I need to know about what they’ve been up to.

      • Ben in Oakland

        I didn’t see your comment when I wrote mine. Great minds in the gutter think alike.

    • Ben in Oakland

      The look on that horse’s face says that shirtless Jerry Jr. has been riding her or him in more ways than one.

  • Tawreos

    By Monday we will have a long list of women that are accusing this asshole of a ton of shit.

    • safari

      For they have vag and not peen they bare false witness.

  • Ron Robertson

    I hope this comes back to slaughter you, junior. What an evil slab of tribalistic meat you are.

  • Bluto

    Your god is a filthy scum sucking evil kkkunt devoid of morals, kindness, humanity & empathy that deserves neither respect nor reverence & should be shunned & ridiculed.
    Oh, & fuck off.

  • Cuberly Deux
    • Treant

      Hey! He might not have seen it, standing over there under Gay Queen magazine.

      • Cuberly Deux

        Ya kidding? Jr probably pointed to it and said, well gall durn….I remember fappin tuh that rightcher.

  • Mark Née Fuzz

    Oh yes, from the immensely credible grifter, Jerry Falwell, Jr.

  • DreadPikathulhu

    The intellectual and moral rot of the religious right is fully exposed.

  • Bambino

    Not even the guy who keep the women in a binder agree.
    https://twitter.com/MittRomney/status/928999549376528385

    • Treant

      Personally, I’ll accept “preponderance of the evidence.” Hell, if it even falls into balance, I’ll give it to the victim.

      In this case, with three coming forward (and undoubtedly more to come), it’s way over equipoise.

    • Tulle Christensen

      Mitt may be a slimy business man that takes companies into bankruptcy, and puts people out of work to make his money. But he is one of the more moral Republicans

      now I am depressed *sigh*

      • Librarykid

        Well, in your favor, “moral republicans” is a very compromised term, an oxymoron almost, in that the two words repel each other like two positive or two negative poles of magnets pushed against each other.

    • Ningsisa

      Those were my exact words, too. Kind of eery to be agreeing with Romney. But yeah, the PREPONDERANCE of the evidence is overwhelmingly against Moore.

    • Ragnar Lothbrok

      Mormon says what ?
      Didn’t he just go back to groveling before trump not too long ago ?

  • 1980Gardener

    I’m concerned about the penchant for people to, by default, believe the unsubstantiated allegations or claims of either the accused or the accuser.

    We should remain neutral if and until additional facts appear.

    • Ben in Oakland

      You should talk to antigay religious bigots. They have swimming pools full of alt-facts.

      • 1980Gardener

        I’m not sure I follow. does that mean you disagree with my comment?

        • AmeriCanadian

          That right there…”you” just failed the Turing test.

          • 1980Gardener

            I guess that means you won’t offer any opinion or meaningful response?

          • AmeriCanadian

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        • Ben in Oakland

          No. I agree with you. But you should be talking to the religious bigots with that observation. One allegedly gay man– or usually, someone who presents himself to the world as heterosexual until he is found out to be not so heterosexual– think Dennis Hastert, among a legion of others– does something wrong, and ALL GAY MEN ARE A THREAT. We’re all guilty, even if we are not.

          • 1980Gardener

            “No. I agree with you.”

            – Good to hear.

            “But you should be talking to the religious bigots with that observation.”

            – I often do, but the problem with the growing societal penchant for ‘guilty until proven innocent’ is common in many communities.

            “One allegedly gay man– or usually, someone who presents himself to the world as heterosexual until he is found out to be not so heterosexual– think Dennis Hastert, among a legion of others– does something wrong, and ALL GAY MEN ARE A THREAT. We’re all guilty, even if we are not.”

            – Quite true.

    • Boreal

      Yes because Roy Moore is a model of integrity. He is no doubt telling the truth.

      • 1980Gardener

        One’s character should not be relevant.

        • Boreal

          Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
          Thanks for trolling the site.

          • 1980Gardener

            Can you explain why you disagree? For example, why should the law treat a nice person differently than a jerk?

          • Boreal

            If you want me to defend Roy Moore, you’ll be waiting a long time and now since I have a zero tolerance troll policy, you are dismissed.

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c1b65ddf53d793998b5d41b484492cc0197f6051749d942002e89d6c0f44620b.gif

          • 1980Gardener

            no, I don’t want you to defend Roy Moore. I just wanted you to respond to my comment or see if you have any thoughts on the substance of the comment.

          • Boreal

            Always comical when blocked trolls reply.

          • AmeriCanadian

            This one likes to dig really deep holes!

          • Boreal

            This one is getting blocked for shitty trolling.

        • AmeriCanadian

          Are you for real? When it is a matter of he said/she said, character and past actions are extremely relevant. Go look up character evidence.

          • 1980Gardener

            Character of the defendant is relevant only to the extent the defendant puts it into play. Past actions are not character and are treated differently under the law.

            Simply put, a disliked person should not be treated by the law different than a well-liked person.

        • shivadog

          Don’t they bring people into court as a “character witness”? That makes it seem like the courts think character is relevant. They sure do a good job attacking the character of rape victims.

          • 1980Gardener

            Character of the defendant is relevant only when the defendant puts it into play. It is not relevant to find guilt.

          • shivadog

            So it is the victims of rape that decide to have their sexual history drug out before the court? I have a hard time believing that.

          • 1980Gardener

            No, as said above, character of the defendant is relevant only when the defendant puts it into play. The defendant is the accused, not the alleged victim.

          • shivadog

            OK, I misread that. (too early in the morning for my brain to function properly) But that almost makes it worse. The character of the defendant isn’t relative but the character of the victim is?

          • 1980Gardener

            No worries 😉

            Generally, yes, because of the historical right of a defendant to defend her/himself. The burden is on the state/accuser to prove guilt; not on the accused to prove innocence.

    • Bad Tom

      Did you read the WaPo story? It was detailed and carefully sourced.

      • 1980Gardener

        yes, though I’m not sure how that changes my comment or addresses it.

        do you disagree with my comment?

    • Ningsisa

      Additional facts did appear. You’re ignoring them. Of course, you haven’t told us what you mean by “facts” which means you can continually move the goalposts and eternally be dissatisfied by any information, no matter how damning it is.

      • 1980Gardener

        I’m not sure what you are talking about or how that responds to my comment.

        • Ningsisa

          Of course you don’t. There are numerous accusers and people who will attest to the fact that these women discussed their relationship with Moore. What “evidence” are you looking for besides witnesses?

    • another_steve

      The allegations in the Moore case seem credible. They’ve been substantiated by dozens of people.

      Roy Moore is an immoral scumbag. That’s an established fact.

      I believe the women in this case.

      • 1980Gardener

        They do “seem” credible, though without actual substantiation, I give the benefit of the doubt – my personal feelings for Moore should not be relevant.

        • Skeptical_Inquirer

          what kind of substantiation are you looking? There’s not going to be any video or hospital records.

          Seriously by your standards, predators who don’t penetrate will never go to jail short of a sting operation. You are basically saying you’d like to keep a teacher in school accused by students of being a groper because you don’t find what they say substantial.

          • 1980Gardener

            “what kind of substantiation are you looking? There’s not going to be any video or hospital records.”

            – My comment was not specific to the Moore case and rather set forth my opinion of the broader issue.

            – Generally, in these types of cases, there is little evidence to substantiate a claim. However, that is not a justification for a lower standard.

            “Seriously by your standards, predators who don’t penetrate will never go to jail short of a sting operation.”

            – why not?

            “You are basically saying you’d like to keep a teacher in school accused by students of being a groper because you don’t find what they say substantial.”

            – “substantial” or “substantiated”?

            – While this is getting very off topic, in the teacher hypothetical, such a teacher should not be assumed/presumed guilty without substantiation of the accusations. why would you do otherwise?

        • another_steve

          There are something like 30 people who have corroborated the women’s allegations here. That seems pretty “substantive” to me, as far as evidence goes.

          In these kinds of cases you’re not going to have photos or anything similar to substantiate the victims’ stories. The relative credibility of the parties involved is the only basis upon which to distinguish truth from fiction. If you required physical evidence in these molestation cases, 99 percent of the time it would be impossible to get a conviction.

          Here you have Roy Moore – a proven evil and corrupt man who was removed from the Alabama bench several times – vs. dozens of women who are essentially telling the same story.

          I think that’s enough to convict the bastard.

          • 1980Gardener

            I find that to be a dangerously low standard.

          • another_steve

            Okay. So what kind of “proof” of sexual molestation would you require here?

          • 1980Gardener

            Same as for any other crime.

    • Skeptical_Inquirer

      The problem with your standard is that the molester will always win. This is the type of crime that’s rarely going to have video proof or witnesses.

      When you have multiple accounts from multiple people who don’t know each other and they’re basically saying the same thing. There is nothing in it for them. They know they’re going to be dragged as liars and whores and all sorts of creepy shit.

      • 1980Gardener

        “The problem with your standard is that the molester will always win. This is the type of crime that’s rarely going to have video proof or witnesses.”

        – Yes, I agree.

        – However, the problem with an opposite approach is that the accused always loses, and I would rather err on the side of NOT convicting or harming an innocent person.

        “When you have multiple accounts from multiple people who don’t know each other and they’re basically saying the same thing. There is nothing in it for them. They know they’re going to be dragged as liars and whores and all sorts of creepy shit.”

        – Agreed.

        • Mike Rasor

          “I would rather err on the side of NOT convicting or harming an innocent person.” First, we’re not dealing with a court of law here so conviction isn’t really an issue. Second, refusing to believe a victim right off the bat actually does harm to them.

          In this case, we’re dealing with a detailed allegation, and three people who new the victim at the time corroborating she told them about Moore’s actions at the time. You have a victim who did not seek out the media but was tracked down by reporters. Additionally, you have other unrelated claims of Moore seeking sexual relationships with teenage girls.

          On the opposite side of the scale, Roy Moore issued a written statement which called this fake news but provided no detailed basis for the denial.

          Treating both those positions as holding equal credibility is ludicrous.

          • 1980Gardener

            “First, we’re not dealing with a court of law here so conviction isn’t really an issue. ”

            – My approach to the law extends to my approach to the court of public opinion.

            “Second, refusing to believe a victim right off the bat actually does harm to them.”

            – Yes, it does. It really is a choice between two competing harms.

            “Treating both those positions as holding equal credibility is ludicrous.”

            – Is that what you think I did with my opening comment? I suggest you re-read it.

          • Mike Rasor

            That’s exactly what you did. You’re just hiding it behind a notion of giving the accused the benefit of the doubt. When you say people shouldn’t automatically believe an accuser or the accused and then wish to give the benefit of the doubt to the accused and not the accuser you are in reality treating both those parties as being equally credible.

            We inherently know Roy Moore has motivation to lie, but what is a non-speculative reason the accuser would be bringing a false accusation?

            You’ve conveniently ignored the part of my post where I demonstrate the evidence which makes the accusation more credible than the denial. Roy Moore has done nothing to substantiate his denial. The accusation actually has corroboration. At this point, the preponderance of the evidence suggests Moore is lying mainly because his denial is vague and we have evidence the accusation is not a recent fabrication.

            You’re reasoning seems very similar to my trial adjudication students who think that because a criminal prosecutor has to prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt, that means the defense really doesn’t need to do anything. On the contrary, even in a criminal court, a victim’s testimony alone can serve as the basis of conviction if the jury chooses to believe them.

            The question you need to deal with is why you think Roy Moore’s denial is credible and the accusation is not credible.

          • 1980Gardener

            “That’s exactly what you did.”

            – I see. You took the word “neutral” to mean that I believe both sides are equally credible. In fact, what I meant by using the word “neutral” was that I do not want to believe one or the other without substantial of the claims/denial. Said another way, while one may be more convincing that the other, I want to remain neutral in my conclusion until further evidence is available.

            “When you say people shouldn’t automatically believe an accuser or the accused and then wish to give the benefit of the doubt to the accused and not the accuser you are in reality treating both those parties as being equally credible.”

            – I’m not sure why you think I want to give the benefit of the doubt to only one party – as I said, neutral.

            “We inherently know Roy Moore has motivation to lie, but what is a non-speculative reason the accuser would be bringing a false accusation?”

            – Because I do not know them, any reason I offer here would be speculative, obviously.

            “At this point, the preponderance of the evidence suggests Moore is lying mainly because his denial is vague and we have evidence the accusation is not a recent fabrication.”

            – Agreed, though the preponderance is irrelevant. We should not rely upon such a low standard on such serious matters.

            “You’re reasoning seems very similar to my trial adjudication students who think that because a criminal prosecutor has to prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt, that means the defense really doesn’t need to do anything. On the contrary, even in a criminal court, a victim’s testimony alone can serve as the basis of conviction if the jury chooses to believe them.”

            – Unfortunately, that is true.

            “The question you need to deal with is why you think Roy Moore’s denial is credible and the accusation is not credible.”

            – Please do not make me respond to your false assumptions.

        • Skeptical_Inquirer

          The accusers’ accounts can be checked out. Was the person at such and such place at the date & time? Did the accuser mention this behavior at the time? Any knowledgeable reporter is going to check up on these things. And I don’t think they would have printed this if this was just one person whose facts couldn’t be verified.

          In any case, nobody puts someone who is mugged through this much shit. We don’t go “You say you were mugged! You lie! It’s all your own fault you got mugged! Why didn’t you fight back harder!” We take that person’s word for it. We don’t assume he/she flushed their wallet down the toilet.

  • Boreal
  • Skeptical_Inquirer

    i remember a former fundie woman wrote about how fundajelicals really don’t get the idea of consent and have this horrible view of how all sins are basically weighted the same.

    • Ben in Oakland

      It’s called sin levelling. It is exactly like “I know Jesus forgives me.” It’s their get-out-of-hell free card.

      • coram nobis

        Dietrich Bonhoeffer called this sort of thing “cheap grace”.

        • Ben in Oakland

          I’d call it klepto-grace, my self.

        • Smokey

          “The test of the morality of a society is what it does for its children.”

    • Ningsisa

      ONLY do people in their group get this kind of privilege. People on the outside? Not so much.

    • Tulle Christensen

      Hey I don’t ask my lawn mower if it is OK if I use it to mow the lawn

      ah, for those who do not know me well this is /s

    • TominDC

      Re: all sings are basically weighted the same

      That’s the logical inference to make when there’s only one same punishment no matter which bad thing you do.

  • Rebecca Gardner

    Men really have no idea what it’s like to be a woman in this world.

    https://twitter.com/JessicaHuseman/status/929015445222457344

    • Michael White

      I had a female roommate in the 70’s. She pointed out to me all of the subtle ways women were discriminated against (text books ” the doctor HE and the nurse SHE). The older I get the more I continue to see it. As a male, I feel we have lost ground over the years and not made progress. I am continually amazed at women do and do so well despite all of the obstacles. My respect and admiration for you and all women never stops growing. We all owe you so much.

      • Dale Snyder

        I couldn’t possibly agree with you more.

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    • BlindBill

      The white christianist hetero males do not care what it is like to be born female … Their holy book tells them that women are like oxen …. Free game unless owned by another man …. So of course a minister of that religion will shame the women and “believe” the man that can put more government $$$$$ in the faith based community funds program – you know, one of the only big $$$$$$ social programs that no Politician has talked about cutting……Or did I just miss that headline?

      • Paul Ohbehr L

        This is why we need to educated out their Christianity. I think it’s slowly happening. The only way they have to keep it going is to force it on kids and force by politics on civilization and force by laws overseas (by fear of Muslims and gays).

      • jmax

        Not just Christians. A Jewish morning blessing begins with, “Blessed are you, Lord, our God, ruler of the universe, who did not make me a woman.”

    • Paul Ohbehr L

      Plus 40 years ago, even young men weren’t talking about this shite. We’d make jokes about not bending over in the showers. Yet what would one do if you were actually molested or worse (raped). So I totally understand where these women are coming from as they were taught even more a code of silence (and especially (and probably even more so) in the American South). I’m fortunate that I grew up in the Upper Midwest, which wasn’t a cake walk, yet I still consider it light years ahead of growing up in the many other regions of the USA (yet that is also my white privilege speaking). I don’t think Minnesota was the best place for a Native American or some minorities, then. And also not for women (especially in rural areas if you go back and look up the case of the Willmar 8). https://www.minnpost.com/minnesota-history/2013/06/1977-boss-tells-willmar-8-we-re-not-all-equal-you-know-strike-ensues
      And why we still need the ERA. Thanks for nothing many states and Republicans, even today.
      PS … I’m lucky that my mother was in a well paying (white collar) Union job in the 1960s and 1970s. It paid well when my dad was sick/disabled. So we were middle class. I thank Unions for also bringing many people, including women out of poverty. End of my soapbox.

    • ChrisMorley

      I’m with you.

      And this apparently is news, when sexual harassment of women is endemic and socially pervavsive.

      Survey finds more than half of people women in book trade have experienced sexual harassment
      – Poll by the Bookseller finds 54% of female respondents reporting sexual ‘harassment, assault or predatory behaviour’

      https://www.theguardian.com/books/2017/nov/10/survey-finds-more-than-half-of-people-in-book-trade-have-experienced-sexual-harassment

    • ColdCountry

      And they don’t CARE, because they truly believe that they are superior and should have more rights. (I know, not ALL men, thank the skies.)

  • yeah….
    but what do the Teletubbies think?

    • Bluto
      • Blake J Butler

        They used to scare the shit out of me when i was a kid, i had a Po doll and after a nightmare i had i hated them. I was in the show, they tried to kidnap me, and tried to feed me to the laughing baby sun in the teletubby show.

        • AmeriCanadian

          Didn’t you find the show “mesmerizing” though? As an adult I was captivated by the optics of the video. It seemed beyond surreal.

          • Blake J Butler

            Before the nightmare, i did like the scenery of where the show was produced.

        • Uncle Mark

          I almost expected them to use that laughing baby sun in the opening credits of Game of Thrones

  • another_steve

    Women across the country are mobilizing against today’s monstrously sexist Republican Party. Last Tuesday’s election results confirm that.

    Roy Moore in the Senate will be the biggest gift to come the Democratic Party’s way in decades.

    • Lakeview Bob

      Thank you for thinking of something positive. The republicans deserve what they get. The rest of us do not.

      • another_steve

        Come next November, the Democratic campaign ads directed to women voters will be spectacular, thanks in large part to Roy Moore and Donald Trump.

        Ad execs reading here: Can you see it? The Access Hollywood tape. The Roy Moore piece.

        “Women don’t want to vote for a party that embraces that kind of predatory behavior. Vote Democratic.”

    • coram nobis

      Turtle Man is not going to enjoy working with Elmer Gantry.

      • Skeptical_Inquirer

        He knew what he signed up for.

    • Gustav2

      It was not just in VA:

      New, young Democrats from Ohio Democrats’ Main Street Initiative ran and won all over Ohio, Ohio Democratic Party Chair David Pepper. “ said.

      “For example, three millennial Democrats will be serving on Wilmington City Council next year, and a 26-year-old beat an incumbent to secure the majority of the Fremont City Council,” he said. “In addition, Democratic women led the charge in many of our victories.”

      After Tuesday’s election, Ohio Democrats retained control of 13 out of the state’s 15 largest cities.

      “Ohio Democrats are continuing to build a diverse bench of public servants,” the release said. “LGBTQ candidates won in Cleveland, Columbus, Cincinnati, Toledo, Akron and Newark. Carla Baldwin became the first African-American woman elected judge in Youngstown, and two Latina women won races in Cleveland.”

      http://plunderbund.com/2017/11/09/dems-make-gains-across-ohio/

  • The_Wretched

    Powerful misogynist man with a history of denigrating woman vs republican woman who has everything to lose by speaking up….hrmmmmm. So hard to tell who to believe. /s

  • Jerry Kott

    Overly religious folks are usually overly compensating for some aspect of themselves they perceive as sinful. There are men sitting in prison for what Moore is accused of doing. Moore thinks he is untouchable for touching.

  • Gerry Fisher

    I suppose saying he’s a con man and morally bankrupt would be redundant.

    • another_steve

      Falwell or Moore?

      • thatotherjean

        Po-tay-to, po-tah-to.

  • coram nobis

    It could be that they really do want society to look like the 1st Century, in which a young teenage girl (let’s call her “Mary”) can be married off to an older man without much say on her part (to someone we’ll call “Joseph”) and impregnated without her will (by someone we’ll call “G-d”). It’s all okay even with an emperor like Tiberius or Nero or Donald as long as the ultra-religious get dominion.

    And they really do want dominion. Also from the Religion News Service, from last March:

    … their leaders are not content simply to connect individuals to God and grow congregations. Most INC Christian groups we studied seek to bring heaven or God’s intended perfect society to Earth by placing “kingdom-minded people” in powerful positions at the top of all sectors of society.

    INC leaders have labeled them the “seven mountains of culture.”
    These include business, government, media, arts and entertainment, education, family and religion. In this form of “trickle-down Christianity,” they believe if Christians rise to the top of all seven “mountains,” society will be completely transformed.

    http://religionnews.com/2017/03/18/how-a-christian-movement-is-growing-rapidly-in-the-midst-of-religious-decline/

    • A common theme in all of the fundamentalist religions, of all types, is the desire to return women to property status.

      • coram nobis

        There’s that, but there’s also the desire to get control. They lost the culture war but they still think they can stage a putsch.

        • The_Wretched

          With all the shenanigans they have done in the election system and with gaining full republican control of many States, that putsch is at the closest its ever been.

    • Skeptical_Inquirer

      I wonder when they’re going to push for concubines and multiple wives.

      • coram nobis

        Or handmaidens. Margaret Atwood pictured that approach, as well as a religious society that takes power in a coup rather than by building congregations.

    • thatotherjean

      Not exactly “trickle down.” More like “imposed from above.” Have you read/seen “The Handmaid’s Tale”?

  • /

    Evangelicals have no shame.
    They are essentially narcissistic cockroaches.

  • Ragnar Lothbrok

    Unbelievable.

    Actually, totally believable.

    • gaycuckhubby

      Seriously… my parents were full-on James Dobson, Focus on the Family, Evangelical hardcore. That was its own kind of Pure Evil, but even They don’t recognize today’s evangelicas.

      • Treant

        I’m going to guess you don’t really go into your marital life with your parents. “Yeah, Mom, I like watching while my husband has sex with another guy.”

        :-p

        • gaycuckhubby

          Lol!
          The fact that I’m married to a dude is scandalous enough!
          Keeping the cuck thing to ourselves 😉

  • gaycuckhubby
    • Karl Dubhe

      Ha! As if they ‘work’.

      Never in their lives…

    • Sam

      He could be Vice President!

  • “Who is more credible? The candidate or FOUR ACCUSERS and at least 26 corroborating witnesses?”

    FIFY

  • Mike_in_the_Tundra

    We get to watch the GOP form a circular firing squad, and the GOP gets another vote for their tax plan. I don’t think it’s worth it.

  • Mr. M

    But remember y’all! Being in a loving relationship with someone of the same-sex is a one way ticket to HELL!!!!

    • Karl Dubhe

      Lucky us, we’ll be able to ride the Falwell’s in the afterlife.

      We’ll be the devils that torment them in the sulfurous pits of Hades! We haw!

      /s

  • Uncle Mark

    It was bad enough when Falwell Sr slut-shamed TinkyWinky; now his son is doing it to those poor women, who were traumatized & molested as children by your Christian standard-bearer. Y’all can go plummet to hell together…as well as your hypocritical “religious morality.”

    Our forefathers pointed out the peril of merging religion with politics. You, Falwell, have officially tainted your faith with the sins of your political bedfellows…all for the obvious promise of power & money. You have just become your own prophetized Whore of Babylon. (Remember how the rest of that story turns out in your sacred tome?)

  • Ninja0980

    And remember, if he had been accused of doing this to underage boys, the outrage would be eww gay then anything actually done to the victims.

  • Skeptical_Inquirer

    OT: This is some good-ish news. I don’t know much about country music but I know Faith Hill & Tim McGraw are top headliners.

    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/faith-hill-tim-mcgraw-nra-gun-control_us_5a05b9ede4b01d21c83e2ab0?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009

    In a new interview with Billboard, conducted less than two weeks after the shooting in Las Vegas at the Route 91 Harvest Festival that left almost 60 people killed and hundreds injured in what became the deadliest mass shooting in modern U.S. history, the couple vocalized the need to keep military weapons out of civilian hands.

    “Look, I’m a bird hunter ― I love to wing-shoot,” McGraw said. “However, there is some common sense that’s necessary when it comes to gun control. They want to make it about the Second Amendment every time it’s brought up. It’s not about the Second Amendment.”

  • CB

    The way these people compromise themselves and their so-called morality and bogus xtianity makes me hate religion more and more every day.

  • JackFknTwist

    Sure I could waste 18 mins of my life reading up about this s hit-for-brain’s opinions but I choose life, beauty, the sublime.
    Here are my 18 minutes of ecstasy :
    https://youtu.be/UyjzqPPXDcw

  • dagobarbz, fine Italian shoes

    “…“The same thing happened to President Trump a few weeks before his election last year…”

    And Weinstein, but he wasn’t a politician with a pack of religious hypocrites pimping for him, so down he went.

  • skyweaver

    Also Trumo actually said he was a sexual predator. Quite gleefully in fact. Prick.

  • Jean-Marc in Canada
    • Karl Dubhe

      He really thinks that Jesus was Very Serious when he said to “suffer the children (I always thought that was ‘who’) to come unto me.”

  • Maybe everyone should remind ol’ Jer the pussy grabber’s own words. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/93fc32b39148713dff27c5d234cb7882605bde01b6174b9d13fa6546085c5ea6.jpg

    • Natty Enquirer

      Mere locker room banter.

      • licuado de platano

        Like fatass has ever been to the gym, let alone the locker room.

  • Tor

    He’s hitched his wagon to a sinking ship. Looking forward to the day his house burns down. Add other cliches at will.

  • Slippy_World
    • MUELLER KNOWS

      Is that the crazy God Warrior lady from Wife Swap?

      • Dale Snyder

        It sure is.

        • MUELLER KNOWS

          Dork sided!

      • Ann Kah

        I thought it was a pre-teen donut-eater.

        • MUELLER KNOWS

          Close.

          • Ann Kah

            Best Screen Name Ever!

            I keep thinking of “May you live in interesting times’, which is a curse, not a blessing. And now here we are …in interesting times…

  • Karl Dubhe

    If there is an afterlife, I have no doubt that mr Falwell will be unhappy there.

    Oh, his father is still buried in Llynchburg or where ever… Go for a visit, make sure you drink lots of beer before going, and give him an extra shake for me.

  • Jeffg166

    One wonders how many women have Jerry jr. stories to tell.

  • DaveMiller135

    I find Jello with specks of fly shit on it more credible than the Falwells. So, I guess it all works out.

  • Mike Knife

    How many women has Jerry Falwell Jr abused?

    • William

      Is Falwell Jr the one who was still breast feeding when he started Kindergarten?

  • Lars Littlefield

    Falwell forgot to mention that women smell funny, too. How could he let that slide in his defense of Moore?

  • Sam

    It’s not that they believed his denial of the evidence on tape. It’s that they didn’t care.

  • drbrentzenobia

    At least one of the accusers is a Republican and a Trump voter.

  • ColdCountry

    Keep it up, you stupid fucker, and in ten years the Republicans won’t get one single female vote. I’d like to see it happen next year, but I’m not that hopeful.

  • Richard B

    The evangelical scamvangelist are adopting traditional corrupt Republican positions.
    Do as I say and not as I do.

  • Pip

    Can you imagine the fire and brimstone he’d be throwing around if this happened to be a Dem candidate that was being accused?

  • JCF

    I’ll say it again:

    Attorneys General, wherever you are: investigate *every single one of
    Moore’s defenders* (like Falwell Jr, for example!) Because
    dollars-to-donuts, they’ve been harrassing/assaulting the vulnerable (by
    age, by mental ability, by power, by class) also.

  • agcons

    Yes, of course he does. I wonder how many underage girls this asshole has diddled?

    • AdamTh

      diddled? or duggar-ed?

  • searanch

    Moore was always one of the vile swamp creatures, but these revelations are the icing on the cake. He clearly couldn’t get a date with a peer in his 20’s, and had to go after young girls to get his rocks off. Is he the new role model for conservative evangelicals? I am purposely not using the term Christian in that phrase as that would be insulting to all the good people of faith and charitable work.

  • Xuuths

    And I believe you are a lying sack of shit, falwell.

  • William

    The difference is we haven’t heard Moore say, “Grab em by the pussy”.

    • Gianni

      That didn’t matter for Donnie; why would it matter for Roy? He could come right out and say it’s true and God forgives him and his christian-minded loyalists would be overjoyed and vote for him anyway. They’d just be much happier about it.

  • TimJ

    Ah, fuck you Jerry Falwell Jr.

  • Ann Kah

    Falwell: which is it, gullible imbecile, or basic creep?

  • Gianni

    You, a noted Christian mouthpiece, believe the judge is telling the truth? Which means you believe the women are lying. And on what basis do you come to that conclusion? Certainly not on Roy Moore’s record of personal integrity and application of his legal duties.

  • He’s proof they don’t really fear a god therefore he uses the fear the fake bible instills to feather his 10 million dollar nest.

  • leastyebejudged

    This “University” should never have been permitted to exist.

  • jonfromcalifornia

    Like Pedo Roy, Falwell is an Evangelical. He wouldn’t know the “truth” if it kicked him in the face. “Who is more credible? The Candidate or the accuser?” It should really be “the Predator or the accuser?”

  • Penny Marie Sautereau

    Yeah, like there are no sexual skeletons in HIS closet.

  • May Roy Moore be anally Raped by Satan