GOP Fears Second Rout In 2018 Midterms

McClatchy reports:

The Tuesday night rout of Republican candidates up and down the ballot has triggered alarm bells in Republican circles that a deteriorating political environment could set in motion a Democratic wave in the 2018 midterm elections.

The most dramatic results unfolded in Virginia, where Democrats swept up victories in the governor’s race and delegate contests across the state, fueled by suburban voters who once favored Republicans. But it wasn’t just Virginia: Democrats won the New Jersey governor’s mansion and in several suburban Philadelphia counties, where they nabbed local offices that have long been controlled by the GOP.

For Republicans, who have won all of the marquee special congressional elections of the Donald Trump era to date, Tuesday’s results across the country were a reminder that Democrats are, in fact, capable of translating liberal anti-Trump energy into actual votes. It was evidence of the environmental perils that often await a president’s party in the midterm elections—especially when that president has historically low approval ratings.

  • Jeffg166

    Don’t be over confident assume the worst until the day after the election.

    • Judas Peckerwood

      My guiding rule in the several campaigns I’ve managed — no matter how far along were were and where we stood in the polls — was always to “campaign like we’re one point behind and Election Day is tomorrow.”

    • Exatron

      Yeah, these election results show that victory is possible, not that it’s guaranteed.

      We need to vote, protest, call our members of Congress, etc.

      • Michael White

        get folks to register and then help drive folks to the polls on election. I already have request November 8, 2018 off from work.

      • JAKvirginia

        VOTE! Protests don’t mean shit. VOTE. VOTE. VOTE. Got it? VOTE!

        • The_Wretched

          Both are important.

        • Adam Schmidt

          Protests generate energy and discussion which can translate into votes. It’s about creating a lasting groundswell of support for the Democratic party.

        • Lawerence Collins

          Protest, not only matter.
          Their fight and progressive determination. Brought us many of the wins Tuesday.

    • Publius

      This is the most important lesson I learned after Proposition 8 passed. I worked hard on the No campaign, like some here, I’d imagine, and like many I felt comfortable with the idea that a place like California would embrace gay marriage. Lots of people took that idea for granted, and it turns out our campaign misappropriated our efforts in a big way because of it. We paid a big price.

      Complacency, we learned, is a terrible disservice. Confidence is touching and a good rallying tool, but cockiness loses elections.

      • Robert K Wright

        Odd, I don’t remember it the same. No one I knew was confident in the No campaign. I lived in the North Bay Area and when we marched most of the people were afraid it would pass. The “Think of the Children” aspects of the Yes campaign were too difficult to overcome. At least with the strategy of the No campaign. We didn’t have faith in their messaging. What did surprise us is that Obama won and we lost, on the same ballot.

        • Publius

          Lots of lessons to be had. For me, this was the takeaway. I was in my early 20s at the time, and most other people around my age were quite confident. Warnings from eldergays, especially in WeHo where a lot of veteran activists lived, in strategy meetings were oftentimes alarmist in tone. I think people’s confidence, along with the generally optimistic Obama-related mood, masked that angst of possibly losing.

          And yeah, the “think of the children” angle was strong with the Yes side. When that Yes ad came out talking about the field trip, it sort of made me cringe. Nothing wrong with the field trip, but I could feel it in my gut that it was damaging.

    • Scott MB

      Nothing is for sure, look what happened in the pres election. There was no way tRump could win, all the polls said so. I am not taking anything for granted.


      • (((GC)))


        (That’ll put us in a position of beginning to fix those things.)

    • JCF

      Especially when the Rethugs (and their Russian masters!) will go ALL OUT w/ to hack/suppress the vote! FIGHT!

  • PickyPecker
  • Lazycrockett
  • Uncle Mark

    Dear GOP, if you invite a pig into your bed, be prepared to get swine flu and die

    • Christopher

      They’ll steal the covers too!

      • Uncle Mark

        They’ll shit the bed, too and make you sleep in the wet spot.

  • Oh, Parker

    As well they should.

  • Ninja0980

    Too bad even if that rout happens so much damage will have been done already, especially to the courts, government agencies and our world wide reputation.

  • timncguy

    I’m tired of the GOP pointing to the GA special election won by Karen Handel. That GOP special election victory was accomplished through voter suppression. Tens of thousands of voter registrations were not processed.

    • shantih aum

      There is also a pretty good chance it was simply stolen by the Republicans. Look at what’s happening with their voting machines being wiped *after* a lawsuit was filed to look into them.

  • BeaverTales

    Now the job of Democrats is to come up with good candidates in all 50 states. The DNC will need to remember that purity tests don’t help anyone except the DNC itself, and that all politics is local.

  • Butch

    No, no, no – if our only message is “anti-Trump” we don’t get anywhere. It doesn’t have to be one message across the board (I’m tired of the “Democrats in disarray” stuff – the disarray is what attracts me to the party and makes it strong) but it has to be something positive or it won’t work.

    • Tomcat

      NO ONE is saying our only message is anti trump. So please stop saying it all the time. If you cannot figure out our message then try harder, it is being shouted loud and clear, we want sanity and unity to be America again.

      • Butch

        When have I said that “all the time?” I was reacting to this quote in the story. Calm down. The story says:
        Tuesday’s results across the country were a reminder that Democrats are, in fact, capable of translating liberal anti-Trump energy into actual votes.
        That’s the source of my comment.

    • RoFaWh

      Absolutely correct.

      The Democrats need to come with a serious platform that includes, among other things, a promise to undo Trump’s destruction of government as far as possible, drastically increase taxes on the super-rich and lower them on what’s left of the middle class and lower them even more on the poor.

      Attention must be paid to the Deplorables, too. Find out what’s really making them so unhappy (likely gay marriage and lies from Fox nooze). Gay marriage isn’t going away, so the point has to be made, over and over and loudly that no marriage has been weakened by the same sex couples who have married. A speech “Lies from Fox News” might help too. Or perhaps (aha!) a law requiring news sources to be truthful. Bye-bye Fox, bye-bye Breitbart, byte-bye Alex jones. Yes, there is freedom of the press but that doesn’t mean it’s a license to tell lies in print.

      Elections must be brought under Federal control to stop gerrymandering, voter suppression, and hackable voting machines.

  • safari

    The GOP should put more molesters on their ballots to double down.

    • AlternativeQuacks

      Breitbart is doubling down on Roy Moore right now.
      Of course, we saw how fast they can change their headlines on Tuesday night. Whoosh!

  • greenmanTN

    Perhaps they could stop being being such Billionaire-pandering cnuts?

  • safari
  • Nax

    And Trump will never get the nomination. And Trump will never get “elected.”

    • Michael White

      I have been on so many sites in the last few months which place conflicting stories and predictions of 2018. Talking heads on both sides have to talk to get paid. The problem is a “thought” at 08;00 becomes fact by 17;00.

      • Tawreos

        Things are improving, it used to be that it was thought at 9:45 and fact by 10:00

  • GayOldLady
  • james1200

    We need to figure out a way to prop up the orange shitstain in the White House for another year until the Midterms. I’m truly afraid he won’t make it until then and we need him where he is both for electoral reasons and because Mike “Sharia” Pence is compartively competent and will pass the entirety of the GOP agenda, including the ACA repeal, next year, if he’s president (also, watch the Handmaid’s Tale for another reason why he can’t be allowed to become president.) We need Orange Hitler to stay where he is so those of you who pray, start praying!

  • Tomcat

    I will believe we are on the way to National insanity recovery just as soon as I see Democrats making headway in Kentucky. Not until.

  • Michael R
  • Tempus Fuggit

    Oh, there’s a storm coming, and you’re afraid, eh? Well, bless your pea-pickin’ hearts.

  • edrex

    ot/ i’m DEFINITELY not a homocon and i’m not endorsing this candidate, but maybe a positive sign of the times? he might not have a chance, but he considers himself a social conservative.

  • another_steve

    We have a President of the United States here who has a very very tiny penis.

    With all due respect to men so inflicted, a party that elected such a man must be made inconsequential.

  • Bluto


  • Gay Fordham Prep Grad

    STOP, STOP, STOP…it was not a “rout.” No one should be resting on his/her laurels. This was a very good showing in local elections. The GOP controls the house/senate and executive branch. There is a lot of damage they can do over the next year. The Dems need to keep the pedal to the metal and keep driving the message home. After last year’s national election who among us can doubt the Dems ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory? No happy dances until Wednesday morning, Nov. 7, 2018, if warranted.

    • Tomcat

      Must we act like we are ashamed of our party to satisfy some people?
      Why can’t we be happy for our progress without being chastised for it?
      Just because we are happy for our progress is not saying we are now going to sit on our asses and stop trying, just celebrating a small victory is all.

    • BobSF_94117

      A point spread like that in VA is a rout. A rout does not cause rest, it causes excitement and momentum.

    • Robert K Wright

      When you win the race by more than the Presidential candidate won the state, it is indeed a rout, especially when you look down ballot. But no, we shouldn’t get too comfortable, but when you pee on the results and downplay them, that does dampen spirits. Why some think we shouldn’t enjoy the victory for a few days is beyond me. Because that is how your post sounds. How about we let the voters enjoy their victory for a bit? They deserve it.

      • Dazzer

        Strategically, I’d suggest that instead of giving the appearance of celebrating too much in public, it’s more important to make it clear that you’re getting straight down to work because there’s too big of a mess to clear up.

        The public image must be that you don’t have time to celebrate because the Republicans have done so much damage.

        That said, much drinking and carousing ought to be done by campaign volunteers in private.

  • Jim Maloney

    They did win the special congressional elections but by lower than usual margins for a Republican in most/if not all of those districts. That was a sign of things likely to come.

  • Lazycrockett
  • safari

    I kind of just want to spend this afternoon going to Breitbart and responding to comments with “Dennis Hastert” repeatedly.

  • Tomcat

    The biggest problem is for Democrats to win, they have to be pure as jesus and their opponents are allowed to be normal human beings with gods forgiveness.

  • HZ81

    Russia can’t save you this time, motherfuckers.

    • Tomcat

      Most of his staff are apparently Russians so that will become obvious soon as Mueller lets the cat out of the bag. Meow.

  • Treant

    Be afraid. Be very afraid. Because if Dumpy is still in office, deteriorates at the same rate he has in the last year, and the economy is starting to head downhill. “bloodbath” doesn’t begin to describe it.

    A third of the waters of the world might turn to blood, point in fact. Call it your Armageddon, Republicans. And you richly deserve it.

    • AlternativeQuacks

      There was a tweet earlier today claiming that Trump got weighed before his Asia trip and that he had put on 100 pounds since the inauguration. If he keeps it up at that rate, Trump might not be around for the 2018 elections. It’s a race between Mueller and the cholesterol.

      • Treant

        That’s weird, it’s a race where I don’t care who wins! 🙂

        I just hope Mueller already has enough dirt on Pence to destroy him. That guy’s a dangerous fuck.

      • RoFaWh

        As a lardass, I can say that that’s an enormous amount of weight to gain in one year; an average of over 2 lb per month.

        Arithmetic (with lots of rounding and approximation):

        100 lbs/9 months = 11 lbs per month
        1 lb is equivalent to about 3500 calorie food intake.

        Trump is therefore eating 38,500 calories excess per month. about 1280 calories per day.

        Big Macs and such run around 600-800 calories each, so he’s eating approximately the equivalent of two Big Macs a day over and above the food he needs to maintain his weight on Inauguration Day.

        Whoever he gets clothes from must be laughing all the way to the bank as Trump has to buy an entire new wardrobe to accommodate his ever growing paunch. That person btw is immune to non-payment; if Trump doesn’t pay, his actual size (that 58″? waist for example) will become public knowledge.

    • Ross

      I am 100% confident that the economy will tank in 2018.

      It’s what Republicans do.

      • The_Wretched

        Obama’s line is a little unfair. Bush-II left him an imploding economic system.

        • canoebum

          Job losses were 700,000 a month when Mr. Obama took office.

  • Ragnar Lothbrok

    I wish they would ALL quit talking about it.
    It’s like : Here is our secret plan, now you have a year to prep for it.

    • Treant

      It’s kind of obvious, though. And nobody’s revealing the Democrats’ plans for anything. Maybe they’ve hired thousands of private detectives and have the names of the boys and girls every Republican is molesting.

      • Ragnar Lothbrok

        I know, but playing dumb works very well in poker, sales & sex.

  • Lazycrockett
    • Good to know these Repuke fuckers believe statutory rape is ‘much ado about nothing.’

      Then again: Trump, Pussy-Grabber-in-Chief.

    • The_Wretched

      Standard rhetoric:
      1. never happened
      2. if it did happen, it wasn’t a big deal
      3. if it was a big deal it wasn’t as described
      4. if it was as described, she’s a slut and wanted it
      5. hire firm to dig dirt on the victim/s
      6. it’s a false flag by democrats
      7. fake news!!
      8. media is out to persecute Moore for being a man of god.

  • skyweaver

    Well, don’t be assholes and people might vote for you

  • Javier Smith

    Waiting for Trump to take credit and say that he was a stealth Democrat all along and that this was his goal all along.

  • thesunnysideofthestreet

    I don’t think the Republicans have any idea how horrified most of America is at their racism, hatred, incompetence, fascism and treason. It is ridiculously obvious that they put party before country and are willing to let the country burn AND risk nuclear war to maintain their hold on power.

    I know people who are planning to vote for Democratic candidates for the first time in their lives.

    • Tomcat

      You may well be correct.

    • Boreal

      I know more than few who did on Tuesday.

      • Skeptical_Inquirer

        The trick is that they have to keep on voting Dem, not just be a one-trick pony.

    • tchowski

      You know people who, their entire lives, have voted for Republicans only (Bush Jr.? Romney? TRUMP?!) and you’re still their friends? What about their inane, shitty judgment is not a dissuading factor for you.

      • thesunnysideofthestreet

        I never said they were my friends.

    • CanuckDon

      I think it’s more to do with healthcare. Eyes have been opened wide at the lies spewed by Republicans in regards to “Obamacare”.

  • Halou

    I remember reading somewhere that the Dems were fighting for the Virginia governorship, not expecting great gains in the state’s Congress and Senate, apparently preparing for a fight with a Republican dominated legislature. The trifecta came as a complete surprise?

  • Sam

    Good, they should be afraid. Run the table just in time for the 2020 redistricting.

  • Stubenville

    Yea, give huge breaks to the 1% and screw the middle class. THAT will help the GOP.


    • Halou

      Look at how many of them are ‘retiring’ from politics, bailing out of the running for the next election. They pass 1%-er tax cuts, get their brown envelopes and then it’ll be some other poor sucker who has to take the flak for it.

      • canoebum

        Right, except the “brown envelope” is a secret numbered account in an overseas bank.

  • Boreal
  • If the GOP can’t get Trump to start behaving more like an adult, and less like a petulant, spoiled child, things will only get worse for them.

    • Lars Littlefield

      That’s what we’re hoping to do with Dr. Cathie Allen who just lost to a mormon fascist in the race to finish Chaffetz’s term. He’ll definitely run again to keep the seat. We need her to commit to run against him next election. She’s got a hell of a lot more going for her than a mormon man in good standing with his church. She’s actively involved with providing care for the poor and homeless, the battered women’s center, getting kids vaccinated, and a bunch of stuff. Typical woman. She’s a caregiver. The Curtis twit who is now my new congress critter is just a money grabbing mormon who now has to step down his position of mayor of Provo. But out of the Provo City Council members the chances are excellent that the one female Democrat may take over his current job.

  • Tomcat

    We as a party should be working hard to turn a few states purple for now and blue for later. Lets go after Florida, Georgia, North Carolina and Should I even say it Texas.

    • Prost Seattle

      Puerto Rican in migration may have already turned Florida purple.

    • canoebum

      I think they need to work on making sure of Pennsylvania and Ohio first.

      • downtownla

        The three “blue states” that flipped were PA, MI, and WI. Ohio would be great, but it’s more icing on the cake now that CO, VA and NV are all moving into the reliably blue column.

        • canoebum

          Nevada has come a long way toward the light in recent years, even with an (R) governor. Wisconsin can come back once they rid themselves of Scott Walker and his gang of miscreants.

  • PickyPecker

    I had a conversation recently involving Dems and voting and the consensus was that in general: so many progressive, left-leaning potential voters have been beaten over the head by the GOP machine for such a long time that there is a lot of ‘why should I vote?’ ‘My vote doesn’t count anyway.’ ‘Republicans will only cheat and win anyway.’…….all leading to these people just not motivated to head to the polls.
    Tuesday’s election results (especially in VA) lifted my spirits. I’m hoping that it does so with others who see the rancid policies and the bigotry that has gotten out of control. It’s time for Dem’s to be positive. And fierce about the future.

    • Tomcat

      My vote almost never counts in Tennessee, however I vote in every election because it is both my right and my obligation to decency.

    • peacfulseas inWA

      And with this statement ‘Republicans will only cheat and win anyway.’..they just guaranteed that will happen.They will win.

  • Will Parkinson

    That would be sweeeeeet.

  • Lindoro Almaviva

    I am not claiming victory. we need to get their asses out and vote

    • Jean-Marc in Canada


      Yes, this was a good week, but now’s not the time to rest on the laurels of one cluster of victories. This week should be seen as a rallying cry leading up to the midterms. You’ve gotten a taste of what can happen liberal America, now finish the job come next year.

      • andrew

        Hopefully you don’t think that the Democrats win with the support of “liberal America” alone. Democrats win when they build a coalition of ideological liberals and average centrist Americans who are interested in bread and butter issues. Truman, Kennedy, Johnson, Carter, Bill Clinton and Obama were not ideological leftists. They were pragmatic politicians who put together a coalition of liberals and centrists main stream Democrats to achieve some of the things both groups thought important.

        • Jean-Marc in Canada

          I use the term liberal in the broadest sense; believe me, I’m a big time pragmatist because I believe in seeing both the Forest and the Trees whereas others see only their individual trees and ignore the Forest around them. Sadly, those same people tend to ignore the other trees being chopped down because, in their minds, all the other trees are exactly the same so why should they care…you know of whom I speak.

          Real politics and governance is not about absolutes, it’s about compromise and, as you say, coalitions.

  • RainbowPhoenix

    God willing.

  • Jean-Marc in Canada

    Well, that’s up to the left and liberals to decide. Will they come together as they should have before or will the infighting continue. This week’s results are hopeful, but the momentum must not be lost going into 2018. The left/liberals/Dems have tasted victory, let’s hope they have an appetite for more.

    • I love dim sum

      I certainly will not be voting for any neoliberal candidate, if its a socialist or green party candidate, then that’s fine, but if they are like Kamala Harris, Feinstein or Pelosi, forget it, I hope they lose.

      • RainbowPhoenix

        Which means you are giving your tacit approval to the fascists currently running this country.

    • andrew

      In order to win big, the Democrats don’t only have to win the left/liberals, they have to win a significant number of centrist middle and working class Americans. They have to speak out on all the bread and butter issues that are important to average Americans.

      • Jean-Marc in Canada

        The problem with the average American is that they’re too limited in their scope of understanding…no, I’m not calling them stupid, but I am saying they are woefully ignorant of global reality. That some average Americans still think coal mining is viable or that fracking is a good thing speaks to their limited view of said reality. Yes, bread and butter issues matter, but so do issues involving the understanding of shifting paradigms, something that is happening globally but seems to be ignored among many “average” Americans.

        Also, I’m not sure how it works in the states regarding citizen responsibility, but my country, as well as many in Europe, we’re taught in school that as much as it is important for politicians to set forth their agenda and platform, it is incumbent upon the citizen to be informed and engaged themselves; not just sit back and wait to hear what the party has to say.

        From what little I’ve been able to glean from the Democrats speeches and from their platform, which is easily available online, they seem to have a relatively solid plan to do deal with healthcare, taxation, infrastructure and even jobs, particularly in opening up A) new markets for trade; which is not the bogeyman everyone thinks it is, B) R&D in new energy industries and technology and C) to restructuring the debt to revenue budgeting. Now, I found all this out, not by just listening to the Dems speak, but also by doing my homework…something the average American seems either unable or unwilling to do.

        So, at the end of the day, it seems the average American is the one not pulling his weight.

  • I love dim sum

    Hillary supporters should also be afraid of Socialist and Democratic Socialists, since there were a big surge of seats won by them this week.

    • Dazzer

      I don’t think ‘fear’ is the correct word.

      You have a dogmatic, ideologue concept of the world.

      And the sad fact is that it’s not even “us v them” because you have no concept of “us”.

      If you look at the entirety of Clinton’s political career, she’s always been open to the evolution of not only her party’s political philosophy, but her own as well.

      Your problem with Clinton isn’t based on the woman as a whole – as a human being – it’s based on your own cherry-picking of things that offend you personally.

      That’s fair enough if that’s how you want to live your daily life. But – as a political policy – your opposition to Clinton falls apart when it’s subjected to any kind of impartial analysis.

      • I love dim sum

        I know the entirety of her career, that’s why I’m not voting for her. Because she is Thatcher on steroids. I find it utterly risible that a professed green party voter supports Hillary, which leads me to believe you are absolutely full of it.

        Please demonstrate this analysis which gives the Clintons any kind of credibility. You can’t though, you are just making baseless claims.

  • Gregory Mullins

    The only reason the GOP won their “marquee” elections is that they were Special Elections not held on a “normal” November election day. Remember Americans as a whole love to push democracy onto other countries, but are notoriously famous for not practicing what we preach. If numbers are low during Presidential years, they are even lower in mid-terms, even lower in off years (like this year) and even lower still during a Special election. I take those “marquee” wins with a grain of salt. . .because they only won by the minority of minorities of people who actually voted in they’re actual district. (Meaning something like 10% or fewer actually put them in office when actual numbers are broken down). Hell Iraq and other Middle Eastern countries when finally given the chance has had better voting turnouts than the US has had.

  • Kissmagrits

    There’s not much for the GOP to fear in 2018 mid-terms….there’s still plenty of time for Democrat splinter groups to hold their usual Chinese fire drill.

  • DesertSun59

    The only way there will be a rout is if Dems vote in such overwhelming numbers that they thwart the following intended features of our voting system: gerrymandering, voter restrictions, GOP closing polling places, GOP shutting down early voting, Russian hacking, GOP ignoring Russian hacking. Otherwise, the GOP will destroy the Dems in the mid-terms.

  • andrew

    We can hope that the Democrats will win big in 2018. However large numbers of traditionally Democratic voters stay home on mid-term election days. That’s a sad fact.

  • JCF

    …but not just praying—working! Giving!


  • ian

    One can only hope. I read an interesting post-election analysis on Alternate that showed how the high turnout swamped GOP gerrymandering. Voter turnout is the key:

    Analysis:Look at Virginia Turnout Margin for 2018

    As midnight passed on the east coast, Wasserman noted what might be the most important statistic of the night as applied to the Democrats’ prospects in 2018. “Across VA today, raw votes cast were up 16% vs. ’13.”

    The 16 percent figure is key. In states where the GOP imposed extreme gerrymandering after the 2010 election, the Republicans created a starting line advantage of 6-to-8 percent by segregating each party’s reliable voters. In other words, they looked at which voters turned out in every election and made sure that Republicans had a 6-8 percent advantage when drawing election districts. They also packed Democrats into districts where they’d win by upwards of 70 percent of the vote.

    In addition to the 6-to-8 percent starting line advantage from extreme partisan redistricting, the GOP also imposed voter suppression tactics like stricter voter ID requirements to get a ballot. Those deter another 2-3 percent of likely Democratic voters in fall elections. Thus, the GOP has a structural advantage in many swing states of roughly 10 percent.

    However, Virginia’s turnout, which as Wasserman said was 16 percent above 2013, its last gubernatorial race, is an indication of what Democrats must do in 2018, voter turnout-wise, to take back the U.S. House and win other key governors’ races, such as in Florida, Ohio, Michigan and Georgia (all GOP-gerrymandered states). Keep that figure in mind as you hear analyses of Tuesday’s vote; it’s the real baseline for 2018.

  • Talisman

    If the Democrats don’t get complacent and assume the progressive candidate will win. Or bother to vote at all.

    • Bert_Bauer

      Or snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

  • Galvestonian

    Well … it’d be damn nice if it happens, but to get my hope up and have them crushed would kill me.