82% Of Trump Voters Would Do It Again

Politico reports:

One year after the 2016 presidential election, the vast majority of Donald Trump voters have no regrets.

According to a POLITICO/Morning Consult poll conducted on the eve of the first anniversary of Trump’s historic election, 82 percent of those who say they supported Trump last year would vote for him again if they had to do it over. That’s slightly more than those who say they would vote for Democrat Hillary Clinton again — 78 percent — if they had the chance.

Only 7 percent of Trump voters and 8 percent of Clinton voters say they would vote for a different candidate if they could complete their 2016 ballot again. Trump’s supporters have largely rallied around the president, despite his poor overall approval ratings, the chaos of his first year in office and the ongoing investigations into Russian meddling in the 2016 election.

  • Tatonka

    This is why we can’t have nice things.

    • The_Wretched

      Maybe the 3rd season of Stranger Things could be called “Nicer Things”.

  • Wynter Marie Starr

    You can’t fix stupid.

  • Joe in PA

    Of course they would…anyone stupid enough to vote for him once would absolutely vote for him twice. SMFH.

    • Chucktech

      Deplorable enough, traitorous enough or stoopid enough. They’re still here.

  • IAMBOWLINGQUEEN
    • JT

      She deserves it.

    • Joe in PA

      I wonder if she spent $35 for that hat?

      • SkokieGuy [ChicagoAdjacentGuy]

        If she did, then can she can be proud to know that she helped pay for an (alleged) billionaire’s criminal defense.

    • Jean-Marc in Canada

      To which I reply, die quickly you piece of white trash, die!

      I just don’t have any compassion left for these things.

      • Stephen Elliot Phillips

        Evolution…..

        • David L. Caster

          Natural Selection.

          • Xiao Ai: The Social Gadfly

            Thank da Lard for da NRA so we can keep natural selection moving along a lil quicker.

      • Kissmagrits

        I put most of my compassion in the drawer where I keep
        my supply of thoughts and prayers.

        • Christopher

          That’s the same drawer I throw my used Bic lighters in.

          (Everyone knows that you can still get one to light once more if you are desperate enough. So save them all.)

    • Oh, Parker

      America probably was great for her in the 1960s, when her family got by on only the income from her husband’s blue collar job that he got without the burden of higher education and student loans. She probably misses that shiny all-Murrican car with big fins the driveway and their nice little all-white suburb. I think a lot of these people are simply pining away for the joy of their lost youth and they don’t give a damn that things weren’t very rosy for anyone else way back when. She probably blew her retirement on QVC.

      • BearEyes

        her hubby’s blue collar job was probably union too.

      • Snarkaholic

        She also probably blows $30 on lottery tickets every week.

        • Xiao Ai: The Social Gadfly

          Perhaps, but she probably makes it up on all the bathroom meth she sells.

          • Anastasia Beaverhousen

            You forgot the cigs and tats.

    • Michael R

      Aunt Gum Gum ?

    • Robincho

      Not to sound like a libtard here, but this person was born clean, like all of us were. I cannot EVEN imagine the horrors she has experienced in her life, the horrors that have brought her to this diseased place.

      Just lookit them eyes, and that there face. It makes me wanna cry…

      • Anastasia Beaverhousen

        Cry me a river. I was born in the poorest part of WV and had abusive parents, but I and many of my friends worked our asses off to get out. Those who thought their good looks and athletic skills would get the far are working at shitty service jobs. We are now helping other kids get out.

    • Steverino

      May as well, already lost her teeth.

  • GayOldLady

    They won’t admit they’ve made a mistake until he’s being marched into Prison.

    • Gustav2

      Even then they will blame the devil Democrats.

    • Joe in PA

      I truly believe that even then…they won’t. It’ll be Hillary’s fault…or Obama…or sun spots…something.

      • Judas Peckerwood

        Homos and furriners!

        • Joe in PA

          LOL, I read that as “furriers”.

          Must be cocktail time. 🙂

    • A friend of mine who voted for the orange turd—whom I haven’t spoken to since he admitted that last year—texted me the other day and said, “Mark, you were right about Trump. I made a horrible mistake.” So SOME of them are realizing the errors of their ways.

      • GayOldLady

        I’m glad that happened for you Mark and you got a friend back, I’m still waiting.

      • Chucktech

        Well, 82% said they would, so that means 18% wouldn’t…

  • Will Parkinson

    Newsflash: 82% of Trump voters are idiots.

    • Joe in PA

      I think that’s more like 100% of Trump voters are idiots. 🙁

  • JT

    82% Of Trump Voters Would Do It Again

    Stupid never quits.

  • clay

    Which means he’d lose the popular vote

    by even more.

    • Chucktech

      an stil be presudent

      • clay

        depends on where he’s losing that 18%

        • Bunter

          Don’t give me hope

      • Xiao Ai: The Social Gadfly

        Well now that all depends on us finding a way to remove the useless Electoral College. Again, thank da Lard for da NRA so we can keep things movin’ along a lil quicker.

  • Ninja0980

    It’s not just stupid.
    It’s them cheering on a man who says all the vile racist, sexist things they want to say.

    • Lazycrockett

      “We beat the libtards!!!!”

    • pch1013

      It’s beyond stupid – it’s evil.

  • Lazycrockett
  • TrueWords

    Trump voters got what they wanted a white male that is willing to entertain them as it distracts them from the mendacity that is their lives

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a379f4f806fed101b889dd12007fd9e964ffefe587c5006d05975d3f9f50cdad.jpg

    • Uncle Mark

      These same treason-weasels lost their shit when the more zany among them claimed that President Obama was a convoluted Kenyan plot, but are fine with their information & gov’t being tampered by white Russians (not to be confused with Belarusians.)

      • TrueWords

        smells like hypocrisy…

        • Uncle Mark

          Hypocrisy, racism, or a combination thereof

      • Xiao Ai: The Social Gadfly

        The Belarusians really aren’t much better.

    • JCF
      • Galvestonian

        Trump’s base would argue that America isn’t a nation of immigrants – ’cause they’ve been here a long time – meaning they don’t actually know why their surname is German, Irish, French, Slavic or Eastern European or in any way denoting a foreign ancestry.

    • Octoberfurst

      But only if it done by THEIR side.

    • FancyThat
    • Bunter

      “even if collusion is proven”
      Provided that the poll is not tampered with, that says it all and it’s actually not very surprising.

  • I love dim sum

    I wasn’t a trump voter, but I was a green party voter, and I’d happily do it again. Actually I’m planning to next year.

    • Tatonka

      Bless your heart.

      • I love dim sum

        Bless yours too.

    • Bluto

      Your vote helped elect trump. You’re a trump voter in denial.

      • I love dim sum

        Wrong, you picking Hillary resulted in Trump. You are responsible for him since you offered up a corrupt center right neoliberal as a candidate.

        • Bluto

          I’m in no mood to discuss your idiosyncrasies. I’m not the dumbfuck whisperer.

          • Jean-Marc in Canada

            Agreed, I think it’s time to follow Mark’s lead….aaaaand the Dim Bulb is now Dimmed permanently.

          • Bambino

            I’m surprised you guys are still entertaining the troll. I zapped him off weeks go. Not going to let someone ruined one of my favorite Chinese cuisine.

          • Christopher

            I did too!

            I don’t know what Dim Bulb is saying, but I upvote the snarky responses because I’m sure they’re well deserved.

        • Jerry Kott

          So are you saying you voted for Jill Stein?

          • I love dim sum

            I absolutely am saying that, and I’m proud of it.

          • Jerry Kott

            I and others believe you voted for a traitor.

          • I love dim sum

            LOL you sound like a Republican, branding everyone that’s not in your tribe as a traitor….reminds me of the language used by Bush supporters right after 9-11.

            Still voting 3rd party, nothing you can do about it.

          • Jerry Kott

            clean your room!

    • Jean-Marc in Canada

      In other words, you’re a Trump voter…and please, spare us all the denials.

      • I love dim sum

        Wrong, I’m a green party voter. Hillary resulted in Trump, so the Trump voter is actually you.

        Keep parroting that line though, it’s just going to make more people go 3rd party.

        • Jean-Marc in Canada

          Oh honey, how wonderfully delusional of you, it’s almost quaint. You would rather see the nation burn than be practical, such are the actions of the mentally ill who shoot up concerts and churches, the only difference is, you use your vote to do the damage instead of a gun.

          • I love dim sum

            The nation is not burning, not any more than it was last year, or the year before that. It would be just as bad, if not worse if Hillary won.

          • Boreal

            Ramen!

    • Judas Peckerwood

      Well that explains the “dim” part of your name.

    • Russian Troll BLOCKED.

    • Lumpy Gaga

      LOLz!

    • NZArtist

      Dewd, you’re either a troll, or ignorant of how a Winner-takes-all (First past the post) electoral system works.
      Or both.
      If you actually do want a third party in power, what you need to do is
      a) In presidential elections, vote for the least-worst of the two main parties. Any other vote is simply a waste and ensures the candidte you least want is more likely to win.
      b) In local elections vote for the politician who most supports the following electoral reforms: 1) Proportional representation, where parties win seats in parliament based on the proportion of the votes they receive. 2) Electoral finance reform to stop large donors from buying policy.
      Anything other than that is just masturbation.

      • I love dim sum

        You’ve got a lot of nerve as someone who lives in a country that gets to enjoy quite a pretty strong safety net from democratic socialist policies, tell me that I’m required to vote for a corrupt neoliberal.

        You can shove it with that talk, I’m voting for who represents my ethics and values. That’s certainly not a Hillarycrat.

        • Boreal
        • NZArtist

          Yeah, but we went from a First-past-the-post electoral system to a proportional representation system 15-odd years ago. I know how it changes an election.
          Prior to then we had two major parties continually swapping power, with one third party very rarely winning a seat in parliament. The two major parties were both relatively (for New Zealand!) extreme in their policies.
          Now there are still two major parties and several minor parties who share power. All the parties have moderated their policies.
          The point being that masturbation makes you feel good but achieves fuck all. Like voting for third parties in your presidential elections. It might feel good to you on the day, but it actually makes it more likely you’ll get the candidate you like the least as president.
          But, hey, you get to feel morally superior while your country burns. Good for you.

          • I love dim sum

            Yes, good for me. I will continue to vote 3rd party despite you comparing it to a hand shandy.

            So, by your logic, everybody that lives in a deep red state, like Alabama, that wants to vote blue, shouldn’t, because there is no way that the Dems will win in that state ever. Your argument is absolutely rubbish.

            Also, there were a number of seats won by Socialists and Democratic Socialists this week, so I guess you are totally wrong about voting 3rd party achieving nothing.

            Keep trying to make excuses for corruption though.

          • NZArtist

            Read again: I said they need to vote for the least worst of the two major parties. FPP/WTA systems always lead to two parties because people dont vote parties *in* to power, they vote against parties to vote them *out*. So they vote for the ‘opposition’ party. Hence you get two extreme parties of roughly the same amount of loyal support. Third parties dont get a look-in because they’re not a viable alternative to voting out the worst of the two main parties. The likelihood of a third-party achieving a majority threshold for defeating a major party is vanishingly small.

            You just have to look at your electoral system and results to see this in action.

            Yes, third parties are winning local elections. And that’s a good thing. That leads to electoral reform. As I said – vote for local….

            Oh whatever. You’re not even reading what I’m writing.

            You dismiss my opinion “as someone who lives in a country that gets to enjoy quite a pretty strong safety net from democratic socialist policies

            ” (your words) but ignore when I give you the best means of achieving that without being fucked over by someone like (say) Donald Trump in the meantime.
            But whatever, masturbate away.

          • I love dim sum

            Getting more neoliberals elected is absolutely not the best means of getting policies I favor enacted. The Democrats have moved so far to the right over the past 30 years that they have demonstrated that they despise the progressive left. I refuse to vote for them since they are essentially Republicans.

            Oh, and again, by your logic, people never should have fought to ban slavery, or fight for marriage equality, because there was just too much opposition. Very amusing.

            And yes, I do dismiss your opinion, it actually is incredibly hypocritical coming from a Kiwi: “Democratic Socialism for me, not for thee…….”

          • NZArtist

            “Getting more neoliberals elected is absolutely not the best means of getting policies I favor enacted”

            Yes it is, because the alternative, which you now have, is Donald Trump.

            I’m telling you how to get to the electoral system exactly how you want it. Just that you’re willing to throw that under the bus for the sake of masturbation. Dont you see? You are harming yourself (and others) because you’re unable to vote strategically. Until you get a proportional representation system of elections that’s all there is.

            “And yes, I do dismiss your opinion, it actually is incredibly hypocritical coming from a Kiwi: “Democratic Socialism for me, not for thee…….””
            Well then you’re an idiot because what I’m saying is exactly the opposite of what you said I’m saying. I’m not saying it’s not for you, I’m showing you exactly how to get there and how not to be fucked over in the meantime.
            You prefer masturbation – I get that. Just dont go around saying that’s going to get you the government you want and wont give you Donald Trump in the meantime. It’s almost like you’ve forgotten what happened 12 months ago.

          • I love dim sum

            Your method is completely useless though. Like I said before, electing more mealymouthed neoliberals is just going to result in a more drift to the right.

            Donald Trump was precisely elected because of views such as yours. You are arguing for incrementalism, which has been shown to be a massive failure. I am just really astounded at how clueless you come of as.

          • NZArtist

            I’ve lived through electoral reform here. That’s exactly how it works.
            When you have a FPP/WTA system no matter who else you vote for, one of the two major parties is going to get in by a fairly small margin. That’s reality – that’s how it works. Until you can change your electoral system the best you can hope for is to weight the likelihood of the least bad party getting into power. That’s all you have at the presidential level.
            As you and I both agree, at the local election level you vote for candidates who are most likely to support electoral reform.
            While I accept your position that voting for either of the two major parties does indeed promote party extremism, I’m afraid your proposal of voting for a third-party presidential candidate is counter-productive. For one, you aren’t going to convince enough people to make it useful in any way. Most people just want to vote out the bastards who are currently in power. Voting third party just increases the likelihood of the most-worst of the two major parties get into power without doing anything meaningful to resolve the problem.
            As I said, in a FPP/WTA system people are just voting against politicians, not for them. You aren’t going to convince enough people to change unless the actual electoral system is changed.
            I know you desperately want to cling to the idea that your vote for a third party matters, or even makes you noble in some way. But the reality is just that it increases the likelihood the most-worst of the two major parties gets into power. That’s just the reality of your electoral system. Been there, done that.

          • I love dim sum

            Well, all of your long winded explanation makes absolutely no difference, because I’m still going to continue to vote 3rd party, simply because the two major parties are essentially 2 republican parties. I’m never going to vote for a Democrat again, after the BS they pulled last year. I’m not voting for a Republican either of course.

            “That’s reality – that’s how it works.”
            Uh, wrong, that’s your (incredibly dodgy) opinion. Nothing more.

            ” Voting third party just increases the likelihood of the most-worst of the two major parties get into power without doing anything meaningful to resolve the problem.”

            well then, I guess that means that the Democrats will go the way of the Whigs then, and I have no problem with that.

          • NZArtist

            So you believe you, gay people, immigrants and others would not be better off had Hillary won the presidential election.
            Well then… you’re a bit loony.

          • I love dim sum

            You really are incredibly, and hilariously uninformed. Hillary was anti-gay, and anti marriage equality until 3 years ago, when she had no choice but to change her mind.

            Hillary absolutely despises gay people, but for some odd reason, a lot of very naive gay guys seem to think she’s on our side. I usually chalk it up to Americans having no ability to detect BS. It’s quite alarming that you as a Kiwi, are so pro Hillary. I believe Hillary would send us all off to the gas chambers if she thought she could make 5 bucks off of it.

            Do people run scams on you quite a bit? I wouldn’t be surprised.

          • MBear

            Spray wd40 on a cloth and wipe over leather shoes or leather boots , then buff with a soft clean cloth to shine and make them waterproof.

          • NZArtist

            So to clarify, you are confirming you believe gay people, immigrants, coloured people, medical coverage would be where it is now, had Hillary won. S’far as you’re concerned there’s no difference in policies of a Hillary administration vs this Trump administration.
            Well… no wonder America is so fucked.

          • I love dim sum

            Yes, actually I would go as far to say that things would be worse under Hillary, because Trump is so messy and inept he can’t actually get anything done. Hillary is like Cheney and Thatcher combined.

          • NZArtist

            Then I’m happy you got the president you wanted.

          • I love dim sum

            That’s an amusing thing for you to say. I didn’t want either of them, I thought both were a choice between cancer and HIV. So I chose something else.

          • NZArtist

            And your vote achieved…. Trump in office. You prefer him to Hillary, so congratulations on getting what you wanted.

          • I love dim sum

            Wrong, the Hillary supporters’ vote resulted in Trump. And, one more time since you didn’t read what I said, I didn’t want either of them, they are both garbage.

          • NZArtist

            So, people who voted for the candidate most likely to defeat Trump were responsible for Trump, and people who voted for someone with absolutely no chance at all of defeating Trump weren’t responsible for him beating the candidate mostly likely to defeat him.
            Got it. Thanks for clearing that up. I’d been working under the misapprehension you were in a two-party WTA/FPP electoral system. But I see you live in a world of pixies and fairies.

          • I love dim sum

            I think you are the one living in cloudcuckooland. Hillary had no chance of getting elected, if you think otherwise, you are incredibly naive.

            You keep going back to this nonsensical US electoral system argument, you really should just admit you are wrong. Support for 3rd party candidates have dramatically risen over the past year, and in Virginia, there were a record number of socialist and democratic socialist elected, and it’s only going to pick up in 2018.

          • Boreal

            Dim shit is a fucking tool that likes to screw his country over.

          • NZArtist

            Yes, but he provides a great opportunity to point out how to resolve the USA electoral issues.
            You have a shining example of dip-shittery voting against their own interests for the sake of 15 minutes of self-gratification.

          • Boreal

            I appreciate you pointing it out to him but he is too fucking stupid to get it.

          • Chucktech

            Aw, I think you scared him away…

        • Paula Key

          NZ first country to give women the vote – and it has marriage equality. Maori people are very visible in all aspects of life. No problem with AK15 mass killings.

    • Boreal
      • I love dim sum

        You elected Trump, by supporting Hillary.

      • I blocked that one a loooong time ago.

        • Boreal

          I did too but I just unblocked it to mock it and then blocked it again just because pieces of shit like that need to be told how much they suck every so often.

          • Jean-Marc in Canada

            Yeah, that’s something I do from time to time. Speaking of useless fucks and complete morons, whatever happened to…you know…IT? On second thought, don’t answer that, I really shouldn’t push my luck.

          • Boreal

            IT hangs out on Trollroad. I unblocked it to mock it there and toyed with it for a bit and then reblocked and IT can’t help itself. IT must reply after being blocked. LOL

          • I love dim sum

            You aren’t toying with anyone, all you are doing is making yourself look like a simpleton that’s consumed quite a bit of lead as a child.

  • Bluto
    • Joe in PA

      And that’s only about 1/4 of them. 🙁

      • Bluto

        Even less I think.

        • Joe in PA

          🙂 I changed it from 1/2. But yeah…include a big chunk of the congress. Damn.

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    • Rocco

      Perfectly put.

    • Robincho

      *adjusts antimacassars, plumps up pillows*

      Come sit here by me. Let’s have us a chat. And what do you like for breakfast? I’m sure we can rustle us up a little sumpin’ sumpin’…

  • Pollos Hermanos

    90% of Trump voters don’t know where the Sun goes at night so………..

    • Uncle Mark

      Or how the tides work. (I’m looking at you, O’Reilly)

    • Boreal

      So they are bronze age bible writers.

    • Chucktech

      Oh, bullshit. They know damn well the sun goes AROUND the earth…

  • Treant

    I don’t believe this to be valid. It’s already getting harder and harder to find a casual Trump voter. In another year, only the hardest-core supporters will admit to ever having voted for him.

    Should he be around in 2020–I don’t think he will be–I am thoroughly convinced that we’ll see an epic trouncing.

    • Todd Allis

      I hope you’re right!

    • Chucktech

      That’s because all the other lazy, stoopid, but not evil Americans will drag their fat asses to the polls because they are that horrified.

    • Friday

      Well, Politico polls really seem to be all over the place, I tend to expect freeping.

  • Uncle Mark

    Well, it does say a lot about their learning curve….or lack thereof.

  • liondon#iamnotatraitor

    Ain’t voting for that woman!!

    • Chucktech

      …or a collerd guy…

  • TrueWords

    SO TRUE…also mainstream news DOES NOT help…

    https://i.redd.it/38gpd06l7r1y.jpg

    • HZ81

      If we brought back the Fairness Doctrine, Fox News would be neutralized. THat alone would bring up the nation’s IQ a few pts. immediately.

      • TrueWords

        thanks Reagan for dumbing America

        • Xiao Ai: The Social Gadfly

          Every time I’m reminded of that @#%^&*! P.O.S., I want to go to his and spectral Nancy’s graves and piss and shit all over them. It’s on my bucket list.

          • Bunter

            Most younger people don’t understand that there was a time before Reagan, before the democracy was destabilised long-term through his lobbyistic policy-making.

            They don’t remember a time when there were actual laws that created fairness and healthy markets.

      • Reality.Bites

        The Fairness Doctrine applied to regulated broadcasters – local stations. Broadcast networks don’t hold licenses, but adhered to it because the stations carrying their programming were subject to it.

        CNN, Fox News, MSNBC and any other cable networks would not be subject to a revived fairness doctrine and trying to impose it on them would open a huge can of worms.

        • HZ81

          Thanks, bummer. 🙂

      • ZRAinSWVA

        I don’t think so, truly. I spend way too much time (meaning, any time at all) trying to provide facts and logic to folks on Faux and Breibarf, and they just do not care. Facts don’t matter. They are totally tone deaf to reality. I despair for our country.

        • HZ81

          So true. They really don’t give a shit. They vote against their own interests all the time just to stick it to us queers and blacks and Mexicans and Jews. Deplorable is being too kind. I think it’s time we rethought the whole secession thing.

    • Dave B

      Walter Cronkite said…….“We are not educated well enough to perform the necessary act of intelligently selecting our leaders.”

      • Chucktech

        And that was BACK THEN!

        Jesus, we’re so fucked…

        • Willys41

          I wouldn’t say that. But clearly we are equally as fucked up as the human race has ALWAYS been.

    • joe ho

      The long-term solution is fixing the culture where half of eligible voters prefer to sit on the couch and watch the Kardashians while the disciplined Trump voters go to the polls.

    • Michael R

      I’ve never seen him but I’ve quoted him a bunch of times .

    • JackFknTwist

      If you don’t want to pay taxes how the hell do you get the resources to “fix the educational system”?

      • TrueWords

        ??????

        • JackFknTwist

          My apologies; I don’t mean you personally , but the current tax reform proposals, including tax breaks for the rich, abolition of estate tax for the wealthy etc. indicate a concentration on reducing the tax take…….when there ought be an increase of tax on the utter wealthy to pay for vastly more resources and better paid teachers and a standardise education examination nation wide.

    • Rolf

      The world is fucking doomed. You see what happens when you don’t allow natural selection to kill off the idiots and they just keep breeding and breeding and interbreeding….

    • Kenster999

      ^^^ THIS. Trump should have received no more than about a dozen votes in total (eg, immediate family). Everyone else should have been able to see and understand that he was a danger to the country. For example, twice he suggested that “2nd Amendment people” might be able to “take care of” Hillary if she were to win. He also threatened not to honor the results of the election. If you don’t believe in basic democratic norms, you don’t get to be president.

  • matrem

    But he barely won the last time, and can’t avoid to lose voters.

  • Jerry Kott

    Stupid is as stupid does. Only 26% of eligible voters voted for T45 so stating that stupid people are still stupid isn’t hard to comprehend.

  • Snarky

    Isn’t that down from previous numbers of 91%?

    Also, it’s not like they’ve gotten over being aggrieved white assholes in the past year.

  • Guess

    Aside: Happy Autumn, all you elites out there!

    (CNN’s Maeve Reston): But asked about how @RandPaul ended up with 6 broken ribs, one GOP strategist told me that “coastal elites,” particularly reporters, were failing to understand “the leaf blower wars that take place all across Middle America….

    • clay

      As if suburbs are unique to the Midwest?

    • Reality.Bites

      Now is not the time to talk about leaf blower control.

      • Joe in PA

        If only there’d been a ….

        I don’t really need to finish that. 🙁

    • Lumpy Gaga

      Response: “You’re not even trying anymore, are you?”

  • Cuberly Deux
    • HZ81

      Lucky Louie? Guess not.

    • Daveed_WOW

      Ugh. The list keeps getting longer.

      • The list was always there. It’s just nobody wanted to believe us and would punish us women with life-ruin if we came forward, so we didn’t.

        For a long time.

        That’s ended.

        • Adam King

          From what it says at the link, he isn’t accused of abusing anybody, just of making a movie with an underage woman being exploited (?) Is there more to it?

          • Cuberly Deux

            It’s not about his movie being pulled it’s about multiple allegations and corroborating witnesses. And again this appears to be a known problem and people let it slide.

            “A fourth woman, Rebecca Corry, said the two were working on a television pilot together when the comedian did something similar, asking if he could masturbate in her presence.

            “He asked if we could go to my dressing room so he could masturbate in front of me,” she said, noting that she reminded him of his wife and child. “His face got red and he told me he had issues.”

            Actors Courteney Cox and David Arquette were executive producers on the unnamed pilot and both have confirmed that the incident occurred.

            “What happened to Rebecca on that set was awful,” Cox said..

            https://www.mediaite.com/online/five-women-come-forward-and-accuse-louis-c-k-of-sexual-misconduct/

          • Adam King

            Ugh. Horrible.

        • Daveed_WOW

          This is of no consequence – aside from my own personal growth – but I am ashamed of all the times I didn’t listen to the victims of predators. Those days are behind me.

      • Cuberly Deux

        And last year he helped produce a movie about inner city LGBT kids that was truly one of the best I’ve seen in years.

    • I love dim sum

      Yet another blowhard Hillary supporter turns out to be a creep to women?

      I……just cannot believe this.

      • ultragreen

        Bill and Hillary Clinton are really closer to being Republicans than Democrats. That’s how far downhill our culture has sunk. You ARE aware of that, I hope.

        • I love dim sum

          Yes, I’m so aware of that, that I voted Green party last year. I wasn’t going to vote for Hillary ever, because she’s a republican.

          • Chucktech

            And how’s that working out for you?

          • I love dim sum

            It’s actually working out very well for me. My stocks and 401k are great.

            Thanks for asking.

          • Chucktech

            So are mine. But at what price?

          • I love dim sum

            A very nice price.

  • Boreal
    • ultragreen

      They also have authoritarian and homophobic tendencies.

    • Chucktech

      Pray-oud ‘Murikin.

    • JP

      in fairness, we did have a lot of Obaba bots who were like zombies

    • Bunter

      And all men (not that there weren’t women who voted for Hitl– sorry, Trump).

  • IAMBOWLINGQUEEN
    • Cuberly Deux

      Pollak would literally do anything to excuse away evil at the behest of Bannon. He’s one truly twisted fuckstain..

  • NZArtist

    I’m fine with that. If 82% voted for DT again he’d lose by an huge margin. Because he damned sure hasn’t picked up any *new* voters.

    • Reality.Bites

      Indeed, in order to finally get rid of Harper in 2015, 19.6% more votes were cast than in the previous election. The Conservative vote declined only slightly. But lots of people who couldn’t be bothered before, or weren’t old enough before, got out there and voted to throw the bastard out.

  • Jean-Marc in Canada

    O/T Trump’s America…predictable to a fault…

    https://twitter.com/CraigRozniecki/status/928741674880204801

    • Treant

      I’m…not seeing anything wrong with that? I mean, it violates the flag code, but so does a flag blanket or T-shirt.

    • JCF

      Professor is Family, I’m guessing? [FWIW]

    • Gerry Fisher

      A valid artistic statement, IMO, and not much of a stretch at that.

    • Bunter

      There is an international wave of death threats against leftist female academics, journalists and politicians, esp if they are queer looking. It’s not just an american problem.

  • Friday’s_cat

    Those Clinton voters who would change remind me of Philly sports fans. They love their teams only when winning.

    • penpal

      I voted for her in spite of myself. I certainly wouldn’t do it a second time. The only thing she’s been worse at than winning a winnable election is staying the fuck out of the discussion about how to move forward.

  • tbj5

    If anything this just shows how serious the voter suppression was, as well as the ability for trolls and the like to drive people to vote third party.

  • Bluto
    • The_Wretched

      Unless that trailer is on a $5million parcel of land, he doesn’t have to worry about the estate tax. No, that’s not a made up number. It’s the real value of his estate has to be before an inheritance tax applies.

      • Tom Mears

        Actually it has to be significantly higher than that, You can put things in Trusts or set up your accounts with a “Pay on Death” provision. All of those things bypass probate and the estate process. For property you just need to put your kids names on the deeds and in most cases bing bang boom it’s theirs free and clear when you die. My mother even put my name on her car.

        It’s only the super wealthy or people who fail to do estate planning that pay the estate tax.

      • SFBruce

        That’s why they insist on calling it a “death tax,” making it seem as though the “damn gubment” even taxes even when we’re dead. According to the Tax Policy Center, the average estate tax for the 0.2% of Americans it affects is 17%. They can afford it.

    • KnownDonorDad

      Exactly. And yet, the GOP strategy works – that’s what needs to be examined.

    • meltedrubbersoul

      Lose the underpants, cowboy. Then we’ll talk.

  • gaycuckhubby
  • TJay229
    • Silver Badger

      Actually, the truth is, “people are crazy”. Crazy comes in all colors.

  • gaycuckhubby
    • The_Wretched

      And Moore will lose. Probably even at summary judgment.

      • Chucktech

        I’m sure he’ll cry all the way to the Senate.

      • Blake Jordan

        Using up his campagn donations to pay his legal fees, like a true republican…

    • There’s no way WaPo didn’t lawyer-up this story beyond airtight.

      They interviewed 30 people. Many of them didn’t even know each other, but they corroborated the accounts anyway.

      • Joe in PA

        Oh you KNOW they are thinking: bring it bitch!

        • Reality.Bites

          They’re thinking please bring it with Liberty Counsel.

    • Cuberly Deux
      • safari

        “Clearly the boat didn’t sink. It exploded. Why was that never reported?” — Kellyanne

        • Cuberly Deux

          “Hillary Clinton sold our iceberg detecting equipment to the russians for kickbacks to her foundation…”

          • Chucktech

            That bitch…

        • bzrd

          “and that’s what happened when the green bowling ball hit the pins”
          Ka-boooom!

      • JCF

        Um, the Titanic sinking wasn’t disastrous enough? “Needs Moar Fireballs!!11!”

        • Cuberly Deux

          lol…it’s from a video short, What if Michael Bay Directed Titanic.

      • Paula

        I hate when wooden furniture explodes like that.

        • Cuberly Deux

          Yep, they should come with warning labels.

    • safari

      Okay. Go at it.

    • clay

      Kayla Moore– when your lawyer’s also your wife, because marital confidentiality’s not enough, you gotta add professional confidentiality.

    • Gerry Fisher

      The Washington Post story involved dozens of sources and approximstely 5 accusers. Some sources were friends of the accusers who report being told that the then teens dated Moore, and they were told this information decades ago. Good luck with that lawsuit, Moore. It’s yet additional proof that he doesn’t understand or care about the actual law very much.

  • Lazycrockett
  • Adam Stevens

    A more appropriate headline:

    Uneducated White-Trash Americans Still Enjoying Revenge On America. Don’t Care That They’re Hurting Themselves. Still Confident Their Coal Mining Jobs Will Return.

    • Ross

      A more truthful headline.

    • Chucktech

      Truth be told? I’ll bet they know their shitty coal jobs aren’t coming back. ‘S lowng as they stick it to the lib-towerds.

  • dcurlee

    This is why IQ test should be required to vote

    • NZArtist

      How about a test of competency before being allowed to drive a country.

      • dcurlee

        Yep

  • another_steve

    I might do my life over, if I had the opportunity. With minor changes.

    I love my life partner and the life we’ve created together. I love my cat.

    I might opt for a stronger hairline however.

    • Silver Badger

      Perhaps a more slender, better aging body to go with the hairline.

    • safari

      *tear

    • Gretchen

      A choice in shoes one night when I was 33 changed my life forever. I had been to an art gallery opening in shoes that didn’t fit quite right. My mother tried to get me to wear my teenage brother’s red Nike basketball shoes, which were in her trunk, to dinner later that evening. Vanity kept me in my wobbly shoes. I fell leaving the restaurant and ended up with a severed artery behind my knee. I nearly died that night, and my body has slowly declined ever since. I am certain that night would be my ultimate do over.

      • another_steve

        Your story, Gretchen, reminds us all how fragile a thing life is.

        If a driver driving in the opposite direction for whatever reason crosses over the line and crashes into me, my life may be over. If I go to a house of worship and a madman with a gun appears, my life may be over.

        Or the life of a loved one.

        For this reason, we should embrace every moment of life.

        And every moment of the lives of our loved ones.

  • Tomcat

    By god we plan on seeing this shitshow to it’s entirety. No amounting for intelligence
    for us.

  • Pizza009

    This is why all the “lowest polls ever” is nonsense. all that matters is what the 40% of people who get out and vote think.
    2020 is going to be close,and we gotta GOTV.

  • Ninja0980
    • Boreal

      Bahahahahahahaha

    • Cuberly Deux

      Should we take bets on the number of additional women that step forward?

      • clay

        Caleb’s girlfriends?

        • Chucktech

          “Honey, my daddy’s gowna wanna touch yew. Yew knows, touch yew rat down thar…”

        • Cuberly Deux

          Caleb’s function at the Foundation….procurer?

          • clay

            If my dad used me for that, I might want to drug my feels away.

      • Reality.Bites

        Should we take bets on whether any of them are African-American? He’s so racist and homophobic that if boys aren’t his secret, black women must be.

        • Cuberly Deux

          Maybe that million or so from his foundation was to pay off his out of wedlock brood.

    • Reality.Bites

      I think there should be a law that if you announce your intention to sue someone for defamation and don’t, they should be able to successfully sue you for defamation.

  • Lumpy Gaga

    Speaking of “doing it again”:


    NEW YORK (AP) – Fox News has hired President Donald Trump’s former aide Sebastian Gorka as a contributor.

    Fox News Channel host Sean Hannity announced the hiring on his radio show Wednesday, saying that Gorka will serve as a national security strategist for the network. A Fox News spokeswoman confirmed his hiring to The Associated Press Thursday.

    Wonder if he’ll get his own parking space?

    • Chucktech

      Why, of course they hired that Hungarian Nazi.

  • boobert

    Take that poll again when they lose health ins, get a tax hike and their kids go to Korea.

    • clay

      “their kids go to Korea” — can’t change a horse mid-stream!

    • Tomcat

      When their kids go to NK they will be so proud.

      • Tomcat

        When they don’t come back,, now that’s different.

  • Cuberly Deux

    Been thinking a lot about Perez’ strategy in VA. It’s very 50 States Strategy. It’s exactly what we’ll be needing.

    It’s under-reported but there is a lot of passion out there to undo Trumpism.

    • Boreal

      I’ve gotten no correspondence from the DNC other than money begs, no strategy, no ideas, nothing.

      • Cuberly Deux

        You in VA?

    • Virginia showed us there should be NO UNCONTESTED RACES EVER.

      Some of those women soon to take office in the VA House of Delegates will eventually run for higher offices. Perhaps mayors, or governor, or Representatives to Congress.

      This is how it works and has always worked. For some bizarre reason, the Dems got lazy about running against GOP incumbents, even if there’s little chance of winning. At those lower levels, a tiny grant of maybe $5-10k is all that’s needed to mount a decent campaign.

      • clay

        Many of those ladies won in districts the Dems hadn’t recruited anyone in for a decade.

      • Cuberly Deux

        The sheer quantity of volunteers they had was amazing. There is an enthusiasm out there to get this done.

      • Gretchen

        My mother was a local politician when she died. She won three terms and considered knocking on every single door in the county to be the most important and most effective thing she did in her campaigns. She also gave away enough water with her name and picture on it to float us from Tennessee to the gulf, but she firmly believed in making in person asks for a vote. She said no one in the county would vote against her simply for lack of being asked. She was a fireball.

  • SkokieGuy [ChicagoAdjacentGuy]

    72% deny water is wet and that the mere idea is an evil librul hoax perpetrated by the lamestream media.

    • Gretchen

      I would be more inclined to take them seriously if they could spell and make better word play. I don’t understand hitching oneself to a bandwagon of idiots.

  • JCF

    Yeah, well, Mueller doesn’t give a flying fuck about what the Deplorables want.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/730d6571be220527b89446de2e6cd6bc1b1dc9ebc10bb9f0aad06f2f89bb5f62.jpg

    BREAKING: Mueller has interviewed Stephen Miller re the Comey firing. They’re closing in for the (figurative) KILL! Lock ’em up!!!

    https://media.giphy.com/media/IKpQSl8ts3MYM/giphy.gif

    • Chucktech

      So, the little Nazi who declared “Trump will not be questioned” is being questioned. How nice for him.

  • safari

    Never miss an opportunity to fundraise
    https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/928751289365876736

    • clay

      and people call ME trashy!

    • Reality.Bites

      So who thinks Tammy sent that on to Daniel Dale and who thinks Tammy is the name Daniel uses to sign up for mailing lists?

  • another_steve

    MSNBC and (to a somewhat lesser extent) CNN are being absolutely brutal re the orange sexual predator.

    My one remaining gay nerve can detect it.

    Can yours?

    • safari

      A cold front is coming through tonight. My one gay nerve aches.

      • another_steve

        Here in Central Maryland, they’re predicting 20 degrees fahrenheit tomorrow night.

        I want to die.

        • clay

          I was promised there would be global warming.

          • another_steve

            Lol. 😉

            I’m at a point in my anticipated life expectancy, clay, where I’m prepared to make the best of this global warming catastrophe.

            Young ones reading here: Please fix it.

            I don’t have the energy.

          • clay

            May you live in a place with that luxury. Hundreds of millions are already suffering.

        • Anastasia Beaverhousen

          Upstate New York replies to you, “hold our beer.”

  • Oh, Parker

    If you want to get inside the demented heads of these people, watch Alexandra Pelosi’s documentary about Southern voters. Some of them literally said they would rather die in poverty with their beliefs intact than live by someone else’s rules and ideals. Then one of them says, “…and the South will rise again!”

    Idiots.

    • safari

      I’m trying to create a special dispensation for Thanksgiving to keep that side of the family out. We have cause this year. Christmas — well — I can’t alter that family script. It’s been interrupted once or twice in 35 years of life.

    • clay

      “The South will rise, again!” to it’s former, failing, unsustainable economy based on the unethical exploitation of the majority of the population?

      I’m not so sure people in Atlanta, the Research Triangle, Charlotte, Birmingham, Norfolk, and the rest of the “New South” want to return to the failing cotton plantations of the past. We already know that New Orleans and Key West will say “Hell, no.”

    • JP

      I remember watching a special back in 2008 where they were in W. VA talking to voters. A ludicrous amount of voters said they had voted democrats all of their lives. Then they would go on to say 2008 was the first time they either voted republican or not at all. When asked why, none of them gave a reason.

  • Ross

    Yea? Just wait till Trump and the GOP tank the economy.

    It’s what Republicans do.
    . https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/408955bd2efcf9391afd602024594ff6ffe83be585905d686f4c5460a7aaa669.png

    • clay

      But, see, he’s got a tax plan for that!

    • ultragreen

      Has that been adjusted for growth of the US population? If not, the real economic growth is much lower than that.

      • Ross

        The point of the graph is that the economy grows under Democratic presidents and declines under Republican presidents.

  • 2guysnamedjoe

    18% of dump voters wouldn’t vote for him again. It would be interesting to find out who they would vote for — someone even more nutso than dump (Roy Moore, for example), or someone who’s better able to control his foaming at the mouth in public (Pence, Mittens), or maybe that generic Democrat?

    • clay

      If they just stayed at (their MI, WI, OH, or PA) homes, that would be enough.

  • ultragreen

    When the economy crashes, Trump’s support will also tank. It’s just a matter of time….

    • I love dim sum

      I hate to say it, but we are due for a recession, if we make it another 12 months, it will be the longest expansion since WW2.

  • June Gordon

    This is why why should just ignore the lot of them. They are stupid trash that get far too much attention.

    • Boreal

      Agreed. Dump won (Electoral college ) 3 states by a total of 70,000 votes. If people get out and vote we can surpass that easily next year unless the purity nuts fuck us over again.

  • JohnJay

    Actually, look at the impact of the 82% future Trumpers:

    Actual 2016
    Hills 65.8 Mill
    Trmp 63.0 Mill

    82% Trump re-voters (and the 18% stay home)
    Dem 65.8 Mill
    Trmp 51.6 Mill

    Trump Loses Bigly. If some of the no-Trumps switch to Dem… even better.

  • Ross

    Down 18% is significant, actually.

    Keith did a piece which shows that if just 9% fewer voters had gone for Trump, Hillary would be in the White House.
    .
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uATpV1JpBwo

    • I love dim sum

      I bet Olbermann is the next to have sexual harassment allegations come out against him. It seems like all the virtue signalling male Hillary supporters are doing it as a smoke screen. Just like Louis CK and Weinstein.

      • Ross

        Yes, dear.

        • I love dim sum

          Thanks for admitting I’m right.

          • Ross

            I didn’t.

            But everybody else will see what I did there. You are just too…dim.

          • Ben in Oakland

            The is the sum of it.

          • JAKvirginia

            *tee hee*

    • Chucktech

      Luvs me my Keith, and I’m far from being a math expert, but what he’s saying is that if 9% in WI didn’t vote, WI would’ve gone Hillary. Same in Pa, or FL or MI. But isn’t that 9% figure nationwide? If the 9% were distributed linearly over 50 states (and, of course, it certainly wouldn’t be), that would be .18% of Trump supporters in each state.

      • clay

        No, 9% distributed proportionately across the states would be 9% of each state.

        • Chucktech

          OK. Thank you.

      • Ross

        Yes, if just 9% fewer voters had gone for Trump in WI, MI, and PA, Hillary would be in the WH.

        But, what Keith was discussing was the 9% of Trump voters who now didn’t like him. In actually, way less than 9% fewer Trump voters would have won Hillary the WH. Trump “won” by just a fraction in WI, MI, and PA.

        I say “won” because Russia likely stole the election.

  • BearEyes

    fat, dumb, and happy to give any perceived “libtard” the finger.
    Doesn’t matter how badly they screw themselves in the process.
    Idiots.

  • Rebecca Gardner

    “I love the poorly educated.”

  • stuckinthewoods

    Keep in mind this is a survey of 1990 individuals, and 1% of them chose “never heard of” for Donald Trump, for Melania 2%, Ivanka 2%, Pence 5%, McConnell 17%, Kushner 22%, etc.

  • narutomania

    A result that has ZERO to do with Drumpf and EVERYTHING to do with Hillary. They hated her (and Obama!) so much that they were willing to elect a narcissistic unstable buffoon to the highest office … knowing full well that he would be bad for this country.

  • hdtex
    • JAKvirginia

      NO! Breathe deeply. Yes. That’s it. That’s it.

  • MikeBx2

    That’s because what they know now, they knew then. They love that moronic, bully, pussy grabber.

  • Michael R
    • Dazzer

      Life would have been so much better if Pepe the Frog had stuck the fork all the way in 18 months ago.

    • bzrd

      forking morons

  • FAEN

    YOURE ALL FUCKING MORONS!

  • Herald

    Given how narrow his win was, that’s not an insignificant amount.

  • coram nobis

    “Sharks gotta swim, and bats gotta fly …”

  • Andymac3

    82% of Trump voters would marry their brother/sister if they thought it would stop “imugrunts” from marrying into the family.

  • Lizard

    The Dotard got ~63,000,000 votes. Retaining 80% gets him about 50,400,000 votes. The election was swung by less than 100,000 votes in only a few states.

    Yeah, it’s frustrating that so many people are actually satisfied with their choice in this idiot, but that 20% is hugely significant! Shy of a miracle, his approval is only going to go down. This is indicative of a Dem win in 2020 if he gets the R nom again.

  • Gianni

    That says a lot about the intelligence levels and the ability to face truth and facts. Now THAT is sad.

  • RKitty01

    idiots

  • greenmanTN

    Isn’t one of the definitions of insanity doing the same thing over and over but expecting a different result?

    Ergo, they are not just stupid, they are stupid and crazy.

  • LesbianTippingHabits


    If the Democrats had nominated someone else . . .

  • andrew

    We will see what happens in 2018 and in 2020. I suspect that buyers remorse will continue to grow. Look what happened in Virginia and New Jersey the other day.

  • teeveedub

    Anytime someone attempts to remind us that we need to “understand where the Trump voters are coming from,” (or words to that effect), I want to scream. That analysis has been asked and answered. The fact that 82% of these voters would vote for him again, in the face of all that has been revealed about him, tells me that they deserve no understanding or sympathy. They may wrap themselves in the American flag, but they are anything but patriotic if they’re willing to support this horrible human being.

    Mueller may not have gotten to the bottom of the cesspool yet but my bet is that, when all the facts are on the table, this international criminal enterprise known as the Trump administration is going to be found to have eclipsed any previous government scandal. Whether Trump is afraid of a pee-tape or of the revelation of his shady financial dealings or something that hasn’t been discovered yet, all of his actions are those of someone who has compromised any integrity he might have had in the interest of protecting those secrets.

  • DoctorDJ

    “82% Of Trump Voters Would Do It Again”

    100% of tDump voters are idiots.

  • Moonbeam_Song

    This is denial, stubbornness, and pride. Combined with only getting their news from biased, untruthful spin-machines like Fox and Breitbart.

    The will not admit they were wrong. They will put their fingers in their ears and stamp their feet, even if the nation is collapsing around them.

  • Rocco

    Very scary and kind of sad.

  • MBear

    Can’t fix stupid

  • DaddyRay

    If you remove the 18% that wouldn’t then Trump would lose

  • TheManicMechanic

    Stupidity loves company.

  • Gretchen

    OT: I need a new book to read. Any suggestions? Fact or fiction I’m not picky. Just something to get the taste of politics out of my mouth.

    • Salton

      If you like fiction and fairy tales (no pun intended!), may I suggest the Bible?

      • Gretchen

        I’m afraid that leaves a different bad taste having had a steady diet of it in my youth, but I do appreciate the suggestion.

        • Salton

          I was just trying to be fecetious 🙂

          • Gretchen

            It is a “shitty” choice.

    • JAKvirginia

      Try Caleb Carr?

      • Gretchen

        Thank you for the suggestion. I’m going to start with The Alienist.

  • JackNasty

    On the bright side, that’s enough for him to lose the next election, if he lasts that long.

  • Karl Dubhe

    so, he’d still have lost the popular vote if the election happened again. Good to know…

    • Jonathan Smith

      he won the popular vote.
      62,984,825 (dRump) to 65,853,516 (Hillary)
      hugest margin win ever! PERIOD

      • Jonathan Smith
        • coram nobis

          Barbie actually had a lot of human characteristics, at least in the minds of her designers: stiff, plastic, hollow, sharp-pointed and obviously brainless. All anybody could do was buy her stuff. She’s perhaps the most toxic legacy from the Mad Men era.

      • Karl Dubhe

        Is that Trumpian math?

        Shouldn’t Trump’s ‘numbers’ be raised to the power of 50 or more?

        • Jonathan Smith

          well, yes.
          actual values MAY not apply.
          believe me.

  • Jonathan Smith

    news flash: 82% of dRump voters are FUCKING IDIOTS.
    just sayin.
    on the OTHER hand 62,984,825 fools voted for him,
    on the other/other hand: that’s only 51,647,565 people who need to be outvoted.
    doable.

    • JAKvirginia

      But remember, there were 200M registered voters last Nov. — a record. That means 137M DIDN’T vote for him. THOSE are the people we need on our side. He can have his minions.

  • motordog

    In no way does this surprise me…I find it depressing and infuriating, but not surprising in the least.

    • Jonathan Smith

      soooooooooo….any day ending in a “y” ?

    • Daveed_WOW

      Me neither. They finally got a man just like them: childish, stupid, mean and ugly.

  • OdieDenCO

    I’d bet 50% of that 82% are talking out their ass. their egos won’t allow them to admit they put a totally unqualified person into a position of power.

    • Jonathan Smith

      they are ALL dOnald?
      there is a scary thought

    • Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild

      naw, they love him because he’s just like they are. They don’t care if he runs the country into the ground; as far as they’re concerned they’d see it all burn to the ground rather than share with someone who’s not white, christian, straight, or christian.

  • GanymedeRenard

    WTF is wrong with these cretins? Cretinism?

  • Nic Peterson

    Anybody bother to ask the Steiners, Stoners and Berners if they have any regrets? Anyone? Buehler?

  • chewy

    Do we have their names? Just take them out and shoot them.

  • Dale Snyder

    Why wouldn’t they?

    They’re four hundred pound pieces of republican christian shits like he is.

  • Is that supposed to be a surprise? Of course they would. But then if those 18% had just stayed home we wouldn’t be in this shithole.

  • Jacob

    I’m related to a bunch of them. It’s nothing new; blind party loyalty is poison on both sides. This is why no side ever adequately funds education. An uneducated populace, lacking in citical thinking, is easier to control.

    • Friday

      That’s cause the Dems always get stuck with cleaning up Republican profligacy with their tax cuts and waste and corporatism, while the Republicans still attack education priorities on all levels. For decades on decades.

  • KnownDonorDad

    To be fair, though, the Dems don’t push creationism, climate science denialism, and Christian nation historical revisionism. (Oops. Was replying to Jacob)

  • leastyebejudged

    That so many people wouldn’t vote for HRC is the lesson you should be taking away from this, but no.

    Most of you will half-ass it, as fucking usual.

    HRC was unelectable and remains unelectable.

    Then again, these numbers are so close to the margin for error I have to question why this article is here AT ALL.

    Is it just so that Joe can manipulate the folks here into detesting Progressives ?

    Sure looks like it to me.

    • Friday

      Anti-Hillary people calling other progressives not-progressives was never convincing in the first place, never mind some ‘basis for a lesson.’

      Hel, 50 percent of Bernie voters admitted they’d vote Trump in the general election as soon as he had the Republican nomination about wrapped up. “Blind loyalty of followers” is not the same as votes or numbers. Never mind being actual progressives in the first place in this age of trollery and lies.

    • Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild

      go away bernie troll.

      • leastyebejudged

        kill yourself, illiterate red headed dingbat.

        • MUELLER KNOWS

          While I’ve never have been a Hillary fan, she came within about 100k votes across 3 states from winning. Bernie was unelectable. Jill Stein was unelectable.

          If you voted for either of the latter two, then you’re an unrealistic dumbphuk who needs to pull your head out of your ass. Get acquainted with the concept of realpolitik and do better next time.

    • Talisman

      Yes, and the SCOTUS and judicial appointments mean nothing. I mean, the SCOTUS said that Teh Gays could marry, so there’s no reason at all to ensure that progressive judges continue to be placed on the benches around the country. So, of course, throw your vote away on an unelectable third-party candidate and bask in the glory of maintaining your pure progressive ideals.

      Oh – and Hilary *won* the fucking general election by $3 million votes. It’s only a trick of the electoral college that prevented her from being elected President. And that doesn’t account for the fact that the jurisdictions were gerrymandered, that the GOP engage in extreme voter suppression, and that the Russian likely hacked the voting machines.

  • Sporkfighter

    Tsekung asked Confucius, “What would you say if all the people of the village like a person?”

    “That is not enough,” replied Confucius.

    “What would you say if all the people of the village dislike a person?”

    “That is not enough,” said Confucius. “It is better when the good people of the village like him, and the bad people of the village dislike him.”

  • Moebym of the Returners

    I know a Republican who is a Trump loyalist. And you may scoff at this, but I’m serious when I say she’s a fundamentally decent person. The issue with her is the that, coming from a Republican family, she had been brainwashed with right-wing bullshit since she was young. She keeps herself enveloped in a right-wing echo chamber most of the time, like it’s a comforting blanket.

  • AJ Drew

    Not completely off-topic, the “Illusion of Knowledge” episode of BrainGames was fascinating.

    https://youtu.be/sbAHnd9q1bY

  • Henry Auvil

    Why wasn’t I born in France or the UK? Why do I have to keep explaining this shit to my more fortunately born friends?

  • Cucker “Dick” Tarlson

    Of course that’s what they SAY.

    Like their Dear Leader, they’ll double down on poor choices and lies instead of accepting accountability for anything.

  • Galvestonian

    Well …Stupid is as stupid does.

  • Skeptical_Inquirer

    The one thing the media could do for the rest of us is to stop writing those stupid “feel sowwy for the poor, poor Trumpies” articles. Fuck, they’re stupid, often lazy, racist, bigoted, cruel and ignore predatory behavior if done by a tribe member.

    And talking about the “white working class,” it ignores the fact that there’s the “black working class” and the “Latinx working class” and “Asian American working class,”etc. To put it bluntly, they’re often angry because other people are making them look bad.

    It too strongly feeds into the myth that only whites work while if you actually read the news, many of the working class Trumpies are the ones who spitefully refuse to retrain or move, something they’d call out and mock if it was anybody not a fellow Trumpie.

    • coram nobis

      Charles Blow at NYT makes the point that the Dems won, this time, by going past the white blue-collar demographic and playing to their own strengths — and not doing the Vichy schtick.

      https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/09/opinion/resistance-trump-virginia-republicans.html

      We slough off this silly, racial romance dream of chasing chimerical, oppressed, forgotten, aggrieved, angry white men. Stop trying to convince us that their American dream is now a pipe dream. Stop trying to tell us that they alone should be the focus of our pity and the subject of our weeping.

      • Skeptical_Inquirer

        That was an awesome article. I have never liked being blamed for identity politics when the GOP has pointed its finger at various groups and said that they were the enemy yet the groups they pointed at are blamed for noticing.

  • Talisman

    Of course they would. They would also drink poisoned kool-aid if their preachers told them to.

  • Jon Doh

    I was cleaning my windows today and noticed a warning sticker on the frame stating that open windows can present a fall hazard. I wonder how many republicans would have fallen out and cracked their heads on the side of the ceement pond without these warnings, and did these stickers contribute to Trump’s win?

  • DaveMiller135

    “Indeed it has been said that democracy is the worst form of Government except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time.…”

    Winston Churchill

  • Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild

    They never believed Trump would make their lives better. They did it to make uppity women, LGBTQ people, foreigners, and non-whites miserable. They don’t have “economic anxiety” or a “fear of diversity”. What they have is a bad case of white supremacist spite. They can’t be reasoned with or educated. So its time to move on without them.

    https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/11/08/donald-trump-johnstown-pennsylvania-supporters-215800

  • Sigh, so they are as incapable of admitting a mistake as their orange leader.

  • thatotherjean

    Ignorance is redeemable, but you can’t fix stupid.

  • Rocco

    Most of them are Russians, so it is of no significance.

  • j.martindale

    Of course they would. They are idiots.

  • Edmund Allin

    Meanwhile, Trump seems to be doing his best to push APEC countries into China’s arms, not that they needed much convincing anyway.

  • Willys41

    Obviously Trump embodies the values his supporters hold most dear: bigotry, authoritarianism, and utter incompetence.

    When they look in a mirror, they see Trump.

  • Dunkerblinker

    You can’t cure stupid!

  • Dunkerblinker

    They also inquire about season passes on the titanic.

  • Jeffg166

    Most people live lives of fantasy and delusion.

  • Gerry Fisher

    We know you would, guys. No need to keep trying to convince us of your Deplorable credentials.

  • Last Nov. he lost to Hillary by 3,000,000 votes, so now he’d lose again 18% worse than he did. Whatta huge loser, twice!

    Last election, 70+% of all eligible voters rejected him, so now he’d experience much more rejection, poor guy LOL. Let’s throw him a Pity Party?

    Nah, instead, I’m throwing a Gloating I Voted for Hillary Party!

  • 1980Gardener

    Makes sense – even if they think Trump is crazy, it’s not like they are suddenly going to change their beliefs on key issues to liberal ones.

  • Jay Silversmith

    I hope they recorded all the identities of these Cheeto Caligula supporters so they can be properly treated in mental facilities.

  • Matt

    While I can’t wait for the event that finally pops their bubble, it will be certain doom for the rest of us also. We’ll ALL have to pay for the stupidity of trumpanzees eventually.

  • Robert Adams
  • matthewrettenmund

    Losing 18% of his voters is nothing to brag about.

  • Bill

    If 18% of Trump voters switched to Clinton, it would increase her vote margin from 2.87 million to 25.65 million and she’d win the electoral college 453 to 78. While it may seem that 82% of Trump voters are still idiots (and they are), this is a significant shift.

  • Pip

    Most would keep their vote just out of spite. Better Trump than any “libtard”.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/dc4d8192d89525f62824e4b252e48b4f831e255702a3042ec630fbb21fafa517.jpg

  • djlee

    An (R) by the name at any cost!