Trump: If Texas Had Stronger Gun Control There Would Have Been Hundreds More People Killed [VIDEO]

The Washington Post reports:

Asked during a Seoul news conference whether he would entertain “extreme vetting” on guns, Trump appeared irritated by the question and suggested it was not appropriate to talk about “in the heart of South Korea.”

He then answered by saying “if we did what you are suggesting it would have made no difference three days ago.” Devin Patrick Kelley opened fire with a semiautomatic rifle, killing 26 people in a church.

Another man, Stephen Willeford, later grabbed his own gun and exchanged fire with Kelley outside the church. Police found Kelley dead of a self-inflicted gunshot wound, but authorities said Willeford helped stop Kelley and called him a “hero.”

Trump referred to Willeford as a “brave man” and said “if he had not had a gun, instead of having 26 dead, you would have had hundreds more dead. … It’s not going to help.”

  • Skeptical_Inquirer

    Says the man who has armed people protecting him with their lives and has a gun-free zone where he works.

  • bkmn

    Sounds like he got his talking points direct from Wayne LaParanoid.

    • TampaDink

      Those talking points were probably a “gift with purchase” when he was (like so many others in D.C.) bought by the NRA.

  • alc2018
  • skyweaver

    “Trump appeared irritated by the question” – oh dear, we making you do your job again?

    • Frostbite

      You’re asking a question about someone not Turnip. He doesn’t have time for that.

    • zhera

      He’s just mad he can’t blame it on ISIS, Mexicans, or black thugs.

      • David Walker

        He also pronounced it “a mental health issue.” As I recall, he signed the bill permitting certifiably mentally ill people to buy and use guns. The fucking moron is fucking insane.

        • While simultaneously defunding healthcare for the mentally ill.

  • shellback
  • Jeffg166

    If he only had a brain 🎶…

  • Ragnar Lothbrok
  • Skeptical_Inquirer

    Also the man who shot at the gunman, I don’t doubt his goodness but he didn’t actually save anyone. 26 people still died. Kelley finished what he came to do. Guys like Kelley often end this by suicide to avoid facing the consequences of their action.

    • clay

      He had emptied all of his magazines for the semi-automatic assault rifle, already. That’s 450 rounds inside the church. Dude was already done. The guy with the second semi-automatic assault rifle didn’t save anyone, only created a traffic hazard.

    • DesertSun59

      Bingo. But the real winner is this. Their DEITY is fake, a fabrication, a lie. People in a ‘prayer circle’ in a church are supposedly in direct contact with a tribal Bronze Age deity. If said deity actually existed, a supernatural bubble of pure protection would have encased that family.

      • Snarkaholic

        Or would have at least given them a heads-up before the shooting started, so they’d have a chance to run/hide.

    • crewman

      Also if there were good gun laws (and taken seriously and enforced rigorously), the killer also would not have had a weapon. He might have still attacked in some way, but as we see in other countries, other violence is rarely as deadly.

      • clay

        If the Air Force had listed his felony domestic assault against his own infant, as was legally required . . .

        • David Walker

          Yes…about that. An “oops” if there ever was one. There are only two possible explanations:
          1. I went to get some coffee, and somebody gave me another job to do, and I just forgot about it.
          2. You can do only so much of that paper work shit. I mean, yeah, it’s important or whatever, but it’s not like anybody really cares about those reports.

    • Ninja0980

      Yup and to that point, many of these folks that carry out shootings don’t intend to see another sunrise.
      The idea the next shooter will be deterred because of the two people that engaged him after he did all of his damage is a laugh and a half.

      • Oh how I wish the press would ask these questions of pro gun politicians.

    • Tiger Quinn

      They also apparently chased him down through multiple intersections, shooting at him. The world conservatives want.

  • zhera

    Sure, Donnie. And if the police had shown up when the two were shooting at each other, what would the police have done?

    • TampaDink

      Well, since everyone who was shooting was white, the police would have done nothing. If a brown person had been shooting, they’d have shot & killed him…if both shooters were brown, they’d both be dead.

  • IAMBOWLINGQUEEN

    Reassuring to the families of the 26 people who were slaughtered… the good man with the gun didn’t get to the victims in time. But he saved some imaginary victims.

    • Bambino

      The fucking moron lives in his imaginary world where real people has no value in that world.

      • Bad Tom

        The only person with value in Trump’s world is Trump.

  • Rebecca Gardner

    Trump is a moron, water is wet, and Richard Spencer should be punched in the face every day.

    https://twitter.com/Channel4News/status/927843442457276417

    • medaka

      That was a great read.

    • Dazzer

      Can I just say that I knew Gary Younge when he was a student in university and have closely followed his career (and met him occasionally) ever since.

      That is the closest I have ever seen him come to losing his temper and outright punching someone.

      Younge is a profound thinker. I don’t always agree with him, but he’s someone I respect immensely as a journalist and as a human being.

      I respect him even more now.

    • Bluto

      I don’t know how anyone can be that close to spencer, hear the words from his mouth & NOT punch him. I’m fucking serious.
      Even Gandhi would have in the least kicked him in the nuts.

      • ChrisMorley

        Gary Younge is a black British professional journalist. His job is to report, not be the News.
        Respect.

        • Bluto

          I am in awe of his remarkable restraint.

  • Bambino

    The rhubarb stealing president is at it again.

  • Boreal
    • Leo

      ouu i like this one, stealing it. has she had her interview yet by the way?

    • AlternativeQuacks

      LOL. Love it.

    • Who is she?

      • Boreal

        Hope Hicks.

  • Boreal
    • Todd20036

      Trump wishes he’d look that good in horizontal stripes

  • Boreal
    • justme

      and the real question is..
      How far into the Republican party have they bought!!!?

      • Boreal

        They are all the way in and not about to pull out.

      • clay

        I’ll just leave this here:

        President Hatch

        • Boreal

          If the election is invalidated then President Clinton should assume the office.

          • clay

            yes, but where is that in the Constitution?

          • Boreal

            Don’t know but it seems to me if trump didn’t win then Clinton did and is the rightful President.

          • clay

            Yeah, but right and legal ain’t the same thing.

          • DesertSun59

            Sadly, that’s not how succession works, according to the Constitution.

        • Blake Jordan

          Get everything ready for prosecutions and impeachments, then after the 2018 midterms, President Pelosi…

        • The_Wretched

          President Romney. Ryan will skip, Pence will go down with Trump and Hatch will retire with Romney stepping into his position.

          • clay

            That would require the Senate to make Romney the president pro tempore, no?

          • The_Wretched

            yes, but I think they would in a bargain. The Mormons would argue it’s just a swap on Hatch who is too old to take the position.

        • thatotherjean

          In preference to what we have now, I could live with that. He’s conservative as hell, but sane.

  • Ragnar Lothbrok

    LOL- the nutjob already slaughtered practically the entire church!
    You cant stop something that already happened.

  • Boreal
    • TampaDink

      He’d gain an ounce of my respect if the person he shot was himself.

      • canoebum

        He shoots himself in the foot everyday. So far, it hasn’t helped.

  • clay

    “hundreds”?

    Because Trump “understands” what’s it like to live in a small, rural town.

    • Bambino

      He can only count to ten even if he drop his pants.

  • j.martindale

    Maybe I missed something. Did the man who intervened have an Uzi that was capable of killing 26 people in a matter of a few minutes? Didn’t think so.

    • clay

      Uh, he had the same type of semi-automatic assault rifle as the mass-murderer. But the real reason the killer stopped shooting was that he was out of ammo (for the rifle).

      • j.martindale

        I have only read that it was a rifle. And the Ruger of the killer is an assault weapon according to the ABC news report. Where do you get that information?

        • clay

          NPR interviews this morning on the drive in.

  • Tawreos

    He didn’t think it was appropriate to talk about a major happening in the country he is the president of, since when has he cared what is appropriate?

  • Kevin Andrews

    And the Shitgibbon Howls.
    AmeriKKKa has exactly what it deserves in this vile Meat-Puppet for the Israeli. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8f6c2ac98fc1f60da04cdd60143df7d63046de6ef34b87bfb0fcd150bb2874d0.png

  • Ragnar Lothbrok
  • DesertSun59

    Of course, the exact opposite is true. 45 is an extremely well documented serial liar.

  • Steverino

    If there were no guns, nobody would have been shot.

    • Bambino

      There is no logic to speak of in the land of trumpa loompa.

  • pj

    moron the road

  • Todd20036

    The NRA owns the Nazi party. Hook. Line. Sinker

  • netxtown

    hundreds more dead??

    yo! dumbass – there wasn’t even a hundred in the frigging church! And, if there were some fucking gun control laws – the fuckhead wouldn’t have been able to buy an ASSAULT weapon!

    fuck you, donnie dotard

  • TheGrandWazoo2

    Guns and butthead.

  • Michael R
  • DaddyRay

    If only there were other countries in the world that have gun control to prove him wrong.

  • Paula

    I always knew that going to church can be hazardous to your health,

  • ColdCountry

    Hundreds? Does Dump know anything about this shooting other than he’s can’t yell Muslim extremest?

    • Natty Enquirer

      “A good guy with a gun stopped a bad guy with a gun.” Of course, it doesn’t matter to Trump whether that is true or not.

  • 2guysnamedjoe

    Extreme vetting might have kept the sick bastard from getting a semiautomatic rifle in the first place.

    • Tomcat

      No, he is white so extreme vetting would do nothing.

    • Bluto

      Even the minimal vetting on the books may have stopped him, if it was followed.

  • TrueWords
  • Jerry Kott

    And the Village Idiot proves again how far he can get his head up his ass.

  • And there you have it. This fuck is cool with routine shootings happening.

    Moving on.

    • Bad Tom

      HE has Secret Service protection PLUS his own Praetorian Guard.

  • worstcultever

    Demented suppurating pustule, stinking up the joint wherever he goes with his predictable venality and dumbassery.

  • Lizard

    There weren’t “hundreds” of people in the church, you fucking dumbass. Weren’t you supposed to be “monitoring the situation from Japan”? Did you even read the abstract for the briefing?

    • thatotherjean

      Read? What makes you think he can do that?

  • TrueWords

    Dear Texans…who vote Republican…this is what your President thinks about your life

  • JWC

    Trump, rarely. if ever, enits an intelligent thought . Fully understood by his 30%

  • Boreal

    This is totally OT but a must read if you use social media. It’s how to detect troll accounts.

    https://medium.com/@apokerplayer/examining-fake-rightwing-and-pro-trump-facebook-accounts-ff9b71894f57

    • Rebecca Gardner

      The method I use is to not be on Facebook. LOL.

      • Boreal

        I am part of an Indivisible group and we use FB to connect with our members.

        • Lizard

          I couldn’t have gotten through college without Facebook. It’s where literally everything was organized.

  • Rebecca Gardner
    • Tomcat

      Why don’t you both go up in your prayer tower and just stay there.

      • Anastasia Beaverhousen

        I think that that was Oral Roberts.

        • Robincho

          Or possibly his brother, Anal…

          • The_Wretched

            Or his sister Urethra.

      • William
  • worstcultever

    OT – Is it too early for a hilarious pooch video break? (NEVER!)

    https://twitter.com/AMAZlNGNATURE/status/927341860472811521

    • Dreaming Vertebrate

      So, … land sharks are a real thing!
      (Old SNL reference.)

    • BJORN RAGNVALDR

      NOW, it’s his…just had to make sure everyone knew it.

  • Bluto
    • Boreal

      The NRA.

  • TrueWords
  • Natty Enquirer

    “This American carnage stops right here and stops right now.”
    –Donald Trump, January 20, 2017

  • Leo
    • Dreaming Vertebrate

      One is such a lonely number!
      Dotard Trump: We’re #1! The only one! #MAGA

    • zhera

      American Exceptionalism!

  • TheGrandWazoo2
    • Lizard

      The difference, of course, being that the former does not actually happen and the latter does, with increasing regularity.

  • Leo
    • Dreaming Vertebrate

      The Mercer’s tentacles are everywhere – including Brexit and of course the 2016 campaign.

      • William

        Paging Theresa May…

        • Dazzer

          The Maybot is currently unavailable due to extensive repairs being undertaken.

          There is no light in her eyes. There is no spine in her back. There is no current brain function.

          Please come back in four months, at which time she will have been replaced by a newer – but equally inept – model.

    • William

      I hope the IRS puts their most vicious tax lawyers on the case.

    • The_Wretched

      It’s a pity the news keeps using “avoids”. Apparently “avoiding” is entirely legal. I’d call it suspicious at a minimum and “tax dodging” seems to fit best.

      • jerry

        Yeah, avoiding taxes is legal, evading is not.

  • Matt

    Lie. Surprise.

  • tbj5
    • Bluto

      Even Syria. The US is a global embarrassment.

  • PickyPecker
  • Tomcat

    How much gun control is exercised around the president??????

  • Rebecca Gardner

    We need more guns!!! How else will our teachers control their students? Won’t somebody think of the teachers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Video shows Georgia teacher threatening to shoot student for mouthing off in class

    https://www.rawstory.com/2017/11/video-shows-georgia-teacher-threatening-to-shoot-student-for-mouthing-off-in-class/

    • Dreaming Vertebrate

      I’m just waiting for the next student to riddle their professor with bullets for not giving them the high grade they obviously “deserved”.

  • PickyPecker
    • alc2018

      you forgot toys, bug spray and milk

      • Dan M

        and vaginas

    • TampaDink

      In the conservatives mindset, what is wrong with the picture is that anything is regulated.

  • Blake J Butler

    There’s like 6-7 hundred people in that town. A Good guy with a gun cannot be distinguished from a bad one, especially from law enforcement who couldn’t correctly identify the shooter, thus more would be dead.

    Sad day when the so called leader suffers from cranial rectumectomy

  • Bad Tom

    If Texas had had stronger gun control, Kelley would not have been able to buy a gun.

    • Dreaming Vertebrate

      Now there you go using logic again.
      So unfair when you know Trumpbots are mentally unarmed.

  • Tulle Christensen

    To be fair there was a good guy with a gun who stopped the bad guy with the gun, it just happened to be the same guy

  • Friday’s_cat

    Your republican legislators at work making sure the various agencies couldn’t easily communicate the Texas shooters criminal records to the ATF. The result was they got a share of the profits from 4 gun sales in the form of campaign contributions courtesy the firearms lobby.

  • William

    Kelley is identical to the mental picture I’ve had for more than 30 years of Piggy from ‘Lord of the Flies’.

  • GayOldLady

    The GOP legislators in this country will NOT consider gun control until innocent people are too afraid to go to places like, shopping, church, the movies, restaurants, concerts, etc. When all of those place start losing money because people have become too afraid to go, then maybe they will consider banning assault rifles, bump stocks, armor piercing bullets, magazines, etc. Maybe they will consider things like no private gun sales, no gun sales outside of federally authorized gun shops, federal and local background checks, 10 day waiting periods, no gun sales to the mentally ill, licensing that requires paying fees to own guns and possibly requiring insurance to own guns. This won’t end until owning guns requires as many hoops as owning and operating a vehicle or traveling by plane. It’s just too easy in this country buy these weapons that should only be owned by law enforcement or the military.

    • boatboy_srq

      Churches have been shot up twice in recent memory. The GOTea has done nothing.

      What is needed is for outfits like Amazon, who are benefiting from the Reichwing-fueled aversion to going out in public, to take a stand against the omnipresent threat of gun violence and support a safe(r) public space. Of course that’s a hindrance to their business model, so it will never happen.

    • djcoastermark

      And you know the gun nuts will never allow any of these restrictions. In fact, they will keep lobbying until there are no gun restrictions whatsoever.

    • Dan M

      or until guns are allowed in in that bigly building in Washington with a dome on top

      • canoebum

        A mass shooting inside the Capital might get their attention. Maybe.
        Edit: Perhaps a mass shooting inside the NRA Headquarters would be more effective.

    • Jon Doh

      If the mentally ill can have the launch codes, why not an assault rifle?

      • GayOldLady

        That’s a good argument for those who want to turn their homes into armories.

  • boatboy_srq

    Do tRump properties allow open carry? Asking for a friend.

  • Ninja0980

    By the time the two guys intervened, the damage had already been done.
    To say they stopped this is an out and out lie.

  • JWC

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    JWC • 19 hours ago
    The unwillingness to act. They are all crooks in the same bed. A suggestion. The next time there is anything remotely responsible in power in DC, revisit the first ammendment. The constitution was not written in times of computers and jet planes yet ammendments have been incorporated to encompass these. The argument that it cannot be changed is bogus. What do you think the word ‘ammendment’ means. We no longer need muskets for the procurement of food or to defend our security. Now that there is a Union that governs the nation and supports its military( handsomely) , the need for a local militia is redundant, in fact it smacks of a certain level of sedition . This is a fact, often blurred, by the NRA. in their “you need guns to defend your home’. No you don’t . Many countries around the world have the statistics to support and prove this. Even if this was remotely true , again the NRA has blurred the lines on that. If a Colt 45 will do the job think how effective an AK47 with a ‘bump stock’ would be. Bloody amazing. Donald J. Trump and the NRA cater , pander and understand this small base. The white male, age range 25-65, who feels forgotten, left out and passed by. He is frustrated that he feels he is not listened to and no one hears him. He thinks religion will help, and to some limited extent it does. Be it a local religion or ISIS or the NRA. In his frustration he wants to stop the noise.He never grasps that, he , himself , is as much the problem , as the problem itself. Like a stream of water he seeks the simple and easiest course to action. It’s a social issue that unfortunately is not addressed . There is little reason to address it as it provides a source of imbalance in stucture .This allows the NRA to prey upon them and let the gun companies make insane profits It also allows the NRA to keep pressure on the government tp provide the impetus to perpetrate the insanity. All in all in the American public who suffers the most yet it is the American public who has the power to stop it all. They broke up Standard Oil and Microsoft now brake up the NRA. Know them for what they are, an evil terrorist group hiding under acloak of respectibility and honor Tear away that cloak and expose them for what they are ,the perveyors of sedition

  • Yalma Cuder-Zicci

    Is Trump saying there is something wrong about Mr. Willeford that would have kept him from getting a gun if Texas had stronger gun control? Was Mr. Willeford guilty of domestic violence or something?

  • Rex

    The arguments are absurd, because they are absurd.

  • The_Wretched

    There weren’t 100 people in that small church. the gunman unloaded 15×30 round magazines into the people there and was fit enough after being shot twice to walk to a car and drive miles. He had stopped due to running out of targets. The ‘good guy with a gun’ had next to zero impact.

  • fkevin

    Trump is not a President. He’s an NRA spokesperson.

  • TexasBoy
  • Michael White

    The whole fucking gop has to be voted out if this nation is to survive

    • Tor

      Might as well start sending your thoughts and prayers.

  • Girlgoon

    Gosh Batman !!
    How’d the Joker get elected president ?!?!

  • Talisman

    Willeford would not have had to be so heroic if the Air Force had followed regulations or had Kelley been subject to a backgound check and mental health evaluation before purchasing his gun.

  • Stogiebear

    It’s a shame that DC doesn’t have infinitely stronger gun laws.

  • coram nobis

    Question is, what kind of cable service Our Leader has in his hotel. From what talk show did he pick this talking point? Infowars? RT?

    If he doesn’t have an original thought in his head, this kind of drivel has to come from somewhere.

  • Just like car accidents kill thousands that would have died of herion overdoses, so let’s not regulate seatbelts?

    http://timothygeorgehareramatheviewfromhare.blogspot.com/2016/11/r-e-s-i-s-t_8.html

  • AdamTh

    “hundreds more..” ??

    Hmm … How many more people were in that church? Every news report compared it to a shoebox.

  • Jarred Jones

    how did he stop anything if the guy killed himself? he accomplished his goal so no gun restrictions did jumping jack-shit; but way to pat your own lack of legislature on the back, it’s always hardest to take compliments from yourself…

  • Well, just look at Rand Paul. He wouldn’t have four broken ribs if he’d just been armed while mowing his front lawn. Of course his neighbor would be dead over a leaf squabble. But hey, this is Republican America!

  • Jean-Marc in Canada
  • Ben in Oakland

    It’s a pity we don’t have stronger stupid control laws.

  • Robert Flanagan

    Did he refer to studies? Or, let me guess,he just shot off his mouth.

  • Ham

    Nothing to see hear folks, just the highest office in the land actively advocating for people to take the law into their own hands.

  • Steven B

    If the shooter didn’t have a gun there would have been zero deaths.

  • Pete Wascher

    what about healthcare for mental illness? would it be beneficial for the whole country, mr. trump, to make such coverage mandatory in all health plans?

  • Gianni

    Did anyone expect something original to come from this braniac? Towing the NRA line is what to do to keep the base content and the Republican Congress willing to support whatever you try to do. I love the reasoning behind doing nothing is the preferred option to trying to do something commonsense-based that could help lower the number of shootings and fatalities. Someone with determination will always be able to get a gun, but why does that mean we should allow it to be the easiest process we can make it be? They’re right when they say that no amount of legislation will stop gun violence, but that’s a ridiculous reason to not try to inhibit or restrict the ease with which these shootings can be done. Only the complete elimination of the human race from Earth will stop all killings. Being that that isn’t a viable option, we should do absolutely nothing to control the gun craziness that exists in only the USA out of all the developed nations on this planet? SO OBVIOUS THAT SOMETHING IS WRONG WITH THE US AND OUR ATTITUDE TOWARD GUNS. The 2nd Amendment of the Constitution was NEVER, EVER meant to allow anything like the violent situations we have allowed it to protect today. I voted this evening and did what I have done for years – voted STRAIGHT DEMOCRAT.

  • Ann Kah

    What do you mean, more people shot? He hit almost every single person in the church. Then he grabbed another magazine and did it again. And again. And . . .