Robertson Blames Mass Shootings On Anti-Depressants: All These Crimes Have Some Nexus To Them

“I hope and pray they don’t politicize this thing and start talking about gun control and all that because it won’t be necessary. But I do think there’s got to be a thorough investigation into the effect of antidepressants on these. And they’ve been so many of these mass killings and almost every one, as I said before, has had some nexus to antidepressants. So, we need to see what we are giving people.” – Pat Robertson, speaking on today’s 700 Club episode.

  • TrueWords
    • Ben in Oakland

      A dirt nap.

      • Canadian Observer

        I have some extra potting soil if he needs to be tucked in tight.

  • Gustav2

    I am going to type this loud enough for you to understand:

    IT IS THE FUCKING GUNS, YOU IDIOT!

    • Ben in Oakland

      Haha! I Beat you to it.

    • TK
    • Scott MB

      So true. Without a gun a person on antidepressants wouldn’t be able to murder in mass.

      If antidepressants were truly to blame then everyone on them would be shooting up places. Since that doesn’t happen there is no correlation. Also, why is it when a white guy with a gun murders its a mental issue, but if a brown person does it’s terrorism? The only mental issues at play is religion, the largest mental condition in the world. You believe in something that isn’t there and you hear their voices. That is a complete mental condition that needs therapy.

      • Steve Morrison

        RIGHT ON!

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      • Cody in CT

        Be thankful that the shooter was a white native born Texan rather than several ethnic and religious alternatives.

    • Adam Schmidt

      Well that and that this guy, like many others who start shooting into a crowd, had been beating his wife. Domestic violence is one of the lead indicators for someone likely to use a firearm and it’s why several states are making it illegal to own a gun if you’ve been found guilty of a domestic violence charge.

      • lymis

        Well, that an the “look at the fantastic new semi-automatic I just got” post on his frikkin’ FACEBOOK page.

        • JCF

          “my bad bitch” }-0<<<<

      • Jeff Ryan

        It’s illegal to own a gun anywhere in the country if you’ve been convicted of domestic violence. It’s federal law.

        And no, domestic violence is not one of the “lead indicators.” There are some who wish to make a rather lame connection, but they also see animals in cloud formations. And think they’re real.

        • Hand Turkey

          Bullshit. It may be a law, but gun control and domestic violence prevention advocates will tell you it isn’t enforced. There are loopholes on top of loopholes that allow them to get away with it. I could explain it to you point by point, but you have Google like everyone else, so you can go look it up for yourself.

          And why is it a lame connection? If you’re willing to beat the shit out of your own family, logic will follow that you won’t have a problem harming strangers.

          If you so adamantly feel the need to defend wife beaters, that says volumes about you.

          • Jeff Ryan

            I practiced criminal law as a prosecutor, defense attorney and judge for 30 years, so please don’t lecture me. I’ve prosecuted more gun crimes than you’ve had socks, so I think I’m a tad more familiar with how the law works.

            “Domestic violence” is a term that varies from state to state, but it refers to a narrow set of crimes. Trying to correlate domestic violence with mass shootings involves some heavy lifting and, no, what correlation there is is quite weak.

            But let me invite you into the real world of criminal prosecution. Did you know if you yell at your wife or husband in public you might get charged with domestic violence? It’s true. In my state, if you are arrested for domestic violence based on yelling at your spouse, you cannot bond out until you see a judge in person. Weekend? Great, you’re serving two days in jail whether you did anything or not because there are no judges in most counties to see you until Monday. Meanwhile, that nice man who just got arrested for shooting someone? He’ll bond out and be gone while you’re still being printed. You can bond out on a felony gun charge, but not a misdemeanor DV case, not until you see a judge.

            Talk to any judge or defense attorney who works these cases. It will open your eyes. And bone up on what the presumption of innocence means.

          • Priya Lynn

            You’re full of shit.

    • HoneyBoySmith

      Well, at least they can’t use the “this tragedy happened because we’ve taken ‘God’ out of our schools/society/post office” excuse.

      Or, maybe “God” just doesn’t like Christians.

    • Cattleya1

      I know it is unseemly to wish someone dead, but damn… I will read his obit with glee.

  • HZ81

    How come your buddy God didn’t do shit in his own house, Pat?

    Please walk into traffic today.

  • Judas Peckerwood

    The nexus involves right-wing assholes like you, Pat.

  • Ben in Oakland

    Yes, they do, you fucking perverted old fossil.

    GUNS.

    NO GUN CONTROL!

  • Todd20036

    The nexus? It’s because the semi automatic gun ban expired in 2005.
    But your side is ok with that, you idiot.

  • bkmn

    Hey Pat,
    Phyllis called and said you are supposed to join her ASAP.
    Thanks

  • vorpal 😼

    Funny that being a Christian automagically makes one an expert in all the subjects, like homosexuality, history, and now even pharmacology.

    It’s like pretending you’ve read one book qualifies you to speak on every subject.

    LOL a group of us here at work were thinking of participating in National Novel Writing Month this November. I was debating inviting an Evangelical Christian girl to join and my friend said, “You know she’ll say no, because we already have one book and that’s all we need!”

    • james1200

      Why have you X’d out your cat? Did you two break up? Did he leave you for a new owner rolling in gourmet cat food and a solid gold cat brush?

      • Lizard

        I too am concerned…

        • Joe in PA

          Me too!

        • james1200

          You can’t trust pussy. Which is why I’m gay.

          • Lizard

            You know, you never know who might be hiding behind an avatar on the internet, James…

          • Joe in PA

            Do tell lizard. 🙂

          • Lizard

            I just figure myself to be the token straight chick.

          • JackFknTwist

            Here’s mine !

          • vorpal 😼

            All I’m saying: no penis I’ve ever met had teeth and claws.

          • The_Wretched

            People are people; that’s why I’m bi.

          • vorpal 😼

            LOL I’d be more inclined to say: people are people, which is why I should be asexual.

            I’m actually envious of bisexuals. I think it would be fantastic to be physically, psychologically, and emotionally capable of enjoying the romantic aspects of both sexes.

          • (((GC)))

            If orientation could quickly and easily change, I’d certainly give out “bi pills” to anyone who wanted them. (And pissing off the fundagelicals would be a bonus.)

      • vorpal 😼

        The cat is still around.
        The X is to symbolize my mourning, as my best friend (human) took his life on Friday morning.

        • JackFknTwist

          Understood.

        • Lizard

          I know it doesn’t mean much or change anything, but I really am so sorry for your loss.

          • vorpal 😼

            Thanks, Lizard. I do appreciate it and am glad I have Joe’s with all of you wonderful people to come to.

        • Joe in PA

          Big Hobbes hug [[[[Vorpal}}}

        • Boreal

          I’m so sorry.

          • vorpal 😼

            Thanks, Boreal. [hugs]

          • Boreal

            Hugs back to you my friend. I know words cannot take away pain from a loss like this.

        • Karl Dubhe

          Bummer. I’m sorry to hear that too.

        • james1200

          I’m sorry. Christ.

        • WitlessProtection

          I’m saddened to hear this vorpal.

        • Joe in PA

          Even after all the horrible AIDS deaths in my life, I think the two saddest deaths I’ve endured were suicides. Of course every situation is different, but for these two both were surrounded by such sadness and hopelessness in their situation. Both were medically related. Hang in there. Damn onions.

          • vorpal 😼

            He had been suffering from crippling anxiety, depression, PTSD, and neurological pain for several years, and was on long-term disability and struggling to find any greater purpose to his life.

            I’m deeply honoured that I could be there for him in any capacity, and that he felt comfortable enough talking to me about suicide (having been there myself, due to Crohn’s). I just wish there was more that I could have done for him.

            His husband is utterly devastated but surprisingly keeping it together. I had anxiety that his husband would hold me in part accountable as I’m not anti-euthanasia and did not betray his trust during his life, but he isn’t, and he has expressed gratitude that his husband had someone to talk to non-judgmentally who had been in similar circumstances and that I have some words to try to help him to now understand.

            He had always just been an amazing person all through the 15 years I was fortunate enough to have known him. The world lost out on someone truly wonderful way too early: he was only 40.

          • Todd20036

            Damn. Just damn.
            Was he a veteran? Was that the source of the PTSD?

          • vorpal 😼

            No, not a veteran. He never gave me the details, as it was not something he wanted to discuss, but my limited knowledge is that he and his husband had a very traumatic situation with a disturbed foster child that nearly destroyed their lives.

          • Todd20036

            Damn. I’m so sorry.

          • Joe in PA

            Sad for so many reasons, huh? I also am NOT anti-euthanasia (humans nor animals). Often when you say you are sad about a suicide it is taken as just that. I’m not gleeful, but as you say…such pain for the person leading up to it. My brother’s wife ended her life…they met in AA, she had health problems and after the 2nd transplant (from her brother) failed, she drank a gallon of vodka.

          • Todd20036

            Odd question. Did she intend to kill herself?

            Or did she just want to get really drunk?

            The suicide might have been an accidental death

          • vorpal 😼

            He definitely intended to kill himself. We had been discussing it for months and months in advance, with the possibility of doing it together since I was in a very traumatizing set of circumstances, both health and otherwise. Fortunately, my life improved… whereas his didn’t and he couldn’t take it anymore.

            He did it entirely of sober mind, and I was the last person he talked to moments before he hung himself. I don’t remember much of the rest of that day with small flickers of bawling in front of my boss, going home, talking to his partner, getting drunk, etc.

          • Joe in PA

            Not really an odd question, that thought has been voiced in our family. And we don’t know for sure. Likely she knew what would happen though. Sadly.

          • BJORN RAGNVALDR

            I’m an alcoholic. Drunk/high for 20 years. Sober for just about ten. Now, drunk for just about ten, seeking to maintain sobriety again, need to get back into the rooms of AA. I need communication with others like me but, I’m dragging my feet.

            I only blurt all that out as way of introduction to my lack of credentials and inability to lessen the horrific feelings of grief most deaths leave for us who live and have not had the feeling of abject hopelessness that precedes a suicide.

            That said, I have known several addicts/ alcoholics who, with compromised health ussues, mental, physical, or combination thereof, feeling the grips of the obsession of the disease (addiction/ alcoholism) choose to use to change how we feel but were blind to the consequences of our actions, die by accident.

            It’s always to change how we feel.

            Some still, may choose, faced with the overwhelming hopelessness, real or imagined, reasoned or fleeting finality mindset, to leave of their own accord with the quantity they know will work.

            Our grief would not be different by knowing which, but our love must know they grieved far more than we in making that decision.

            No one will ever know which, took whom, from our physical embrace but we must hold them in eternal esteem for their struggle, and in our hearts, embrace the life and love they exposed us to by their former presence.

            I don’t mean to preach, but all of this is close to my heart.

          • Joe in PA

            Our grief would not be different by knowing which, but our love must know they grieved far more than we in making that decision.

            Damn onions.

            30 years since we lost her, I’m still….

            Thank you for that heart-felt, wise comment. Wow. All I can say is thank you. and hug, hug, hug.

          • vorpal 😼

            Oh, sorry… your post was to Joe in PA.
            =feels dumb now=

          • Todd20036

            Its fine. You aren’t thinking very, and thats completely understandable

          • Nic Peterson

            So young. Such sadness. You were a good friend and confident. Hugs…

          • Joe in PA

            Hey buddy, I just reread my last comment, I did not mean to make that about me, sorry. And sorry you are going through this. Hugs again!

          • vorpal 😼

            Don’t think anything of it at all. I’m always happy to hear the stories of other posters here!

            His depression had been going on for so long, and he had tried so many different medications and therapies that in the end, it cannot be said that his decision was entered into lightly.

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          • Bj Lincoln

            Sounds like a good man and friends. Also seems you are handling it well yourself.

          • vorpal 😼

            One step at a time. I’ll be fine for 20 minutes and then I’ll break down inconsolably for five.

            Fortunately our offices are mostly soundproof.

          • JCF

            “I’ll be fine for 20 minutes and then I’ll break down inconsolably for five.”

            In other words, normal healthy grief. {{{vorpal}}}

          • Hand Turkey

            So sorry to hear this.

            I had a friend who’s son was dealing with depression. It was fairly new and he just started on meds, so I was telling him I was sure his son would be okay.

            At the very moment we were talking about it, his son took a handgun and blew his brains out just a few miles down the road from where we sat.

            I haven’t went near a firearm since. Whenever I see a gun now, his son is all I can picture.

            The hardest part for me was he had a daughter my daughter’s age. They were in the same Kindergarten class.

            I’ve never talked about this since it happened 6 years ago. I guess I needed to, huh?

        • RobynWatts

          Oh, Vorpal….(((Big Hugs)))

          There really is nothing that I could say right now that can take away the hurt and pain that you’re feeling, but I am terribly sorry beyond words.

          • vorpal 😼

            Thanks, RobynWatts.
            I’m lucky to have good friends and a partner here. I completely fell apart during the weekend but they were there to prop up the pieces as best they could.

          • Snarkaholic
        • *huge hugs*

        • Dazzer

          Oh man, I’m so sorry. I wouldn’t have made the joke above had I known.

          I’m so sorry, man.

          These things are horrific and always leave so many unanswered questions.

        • MB

          VORPIE !#! OMG . . . I am so very sorry. May the memories of your friendship, your discussions, and the extreme trust he placed in you give you strength…today, and in the future. ❤️

          https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ee403fe6e737a1121df4c7de6f8745fda2583fbea34d528598007c3582ff2523.jpg

        • Bj Lincoln

          I am so sorry to hear that. In my life 3 have taken their life out of depression. 1 was over money problems, one was trying to quit cocaine with no help and we are not sure what set the last one up but he was the messiest and saddest of the 3.
          While you will never know exactly why , don’t blame yourself for any part. It is a shame this person felt so bad they thought they had no other options to solve their problems. Be there for the family and friends and give your friend a great send off. It really is the best you can do for yourself. You can always talk to us. We love you and will try to understand your pain.

          • vorpal 😼

            Thanks, BJ Lincoln. This is by far the best advice I’ve been given on the subject. My friend died knowing that I adored him and loved him without judgment and had deep gratitude for the time we spent together, and I think that make it easier for him. He was such a special person. I selfishly wish I could have kept him longer but respect his decision and tried to support him by asking him questions to make sure he was of sound mind rather than trying to use guilt, shame, and, selfishness to keep him here for my benefit.

            I need a break from talking about this for a bit as I’m starting to bawl again, but I am, so thankful for his husband and everyone here. You are all such caring, loving people whom I don’t deserve.

          • ColdCountry

            Just looked back to find the meaning of the red X. I am so, so sorry this happened, although knowing him obviously enriched your life. The gift of non-judgemental, supportive love is the greatest gift we can give, and you gave it unstintingly. I’m only sorry that it wasn’t enough to keep him tethered to life, but clearly, you helped him make the decision with honest understanding. I hope he is at peace, now, and that his memory will come to be a shining beacon of the good in life.

            You are a good man, Vorpal, and it is we who don’t deserve you.
            {{{{hugs}}}}

          • BJORN RAGNVALDR

            Yes, you do deserve us and far, far more. Just like everyone of us, deserve you and each other. Quibbles and all.

        • Keroleen

          So sorry to hear of your loss, have some support ::hugs::.

    • The_Wretched

      The ‘I’m an expert in all science’ drives me nuts about the xtian apologists. They flip from physics to cosmology to astronomy to biology to tornadoes and chemistry in the same sentences. They cannot know what they are talking about.

      • Lizard

        What I don’t get is why any non-apologist has to have a degree in the sciences to be qualified to speak on such topics, but no such rules appears to apply to the apologists themselves.

        • The_Wretched

          Or they have a math PhD and think that qualifies them for all topics.

          • vorpal 😼

            I have a math PhD and I don’t even think I’m anywhere near qualified to speak out about math.

          • Lizard

            I’ll bow to your expertise. I scraped through college calculus. Taking it along with physical chem and megalab may have been the worst decision of my life.

          • RoFaWh

            I always knew there was something seriously wrong with you, Vorpal.

            /snarkety-snark-snark

            Do you play the violin?

            Edit: entirely struck out in view of Vorpal’s bereavement.

          • vorpal 😼

            LOL. I played when I was young: between 6-8, and was actually quite good. Our school violin club used to go to retirement homes and play for the elderly, who always seemed to enjoy it…

            …until we went to one particular home where the elderly were less stable, and a few notes into our first song, a nonagenarian near the back of the room jumped up and started screeching, “MAKE IT STOP! PLEASE MAKE IT STOP!”

            We all stopped. About 12 little violins and 12 little bows sunk to the floor, and 12 little faces burst into tears. And that was the end of violin club.

            I tried to take it back up years later for a couple years, and my cats never stopped letting me know that my practice sessions constituted animal abuse, so I finally gave it up.

            Gay fiddlers, though, amirite? Ashley MacIsaac and Owen Pallett? ZOMG.

          • Keroleen

            Upvote for Ashley MacIsaac – brilliant! Sorry to hear how your club ended, though.

          • (((GC)))

            Like how “Dr. Laura”‘s PhD in physiology somehow makes her more qualified as a marriage and family therapist and counselor.

        • Boreal
      • vorpal 😼

        This girl is an astronomer, and interestingly, went into astronomy with the challenge of proving Youth Earth Creationism.

        Glad to report that science won and Young Earth Creationism lost out in that battle.

      • Frostbite

        They don’t need to know.. because Jesus.

    • WitlessProtection

      That is EXACTLY what they believe. Trust me I used to belong to that cult. There is some obscure verse in one of Paul’s letters that says something to the effect that Christians have the right to speak on any subject because it is actually Jesus speaking through them or some such non-sense.

    • Dazzer
    • Wynter Marie Starr

      Good luck on NaNoWriMo. It’s grueling, but fun.

  • The_Wretched

    Rather than blame too much or not enough meds, how about we look at the gun deaths vs gun ownship graphs? Turns out the rate of gun deaths is proportional to the rate of gun ownership. It’s the guns.

  • Butch

    Pat, here’s a double handful. Take them and we’ll investigate your hypothesis.

  • Boreal

    I thought is was because we aren’t godly enough or gay marriage? I guess it is whatever Pat’s senile mind dreams up from moment to moment.

    • Gianni

      Perhaps Pat has figured out that dishing out the same old tired reasons/excuses might actually be getting tiresome to the faithful. Time to change it up and blame something else. Now they can mull over the new cause and likely condemn pharmaceutical companies for causing so many gun deaths.

  • I’m surprised he didn’t blame them on aspartame.

    • Lizard

      Or chemtrails. Or fluoride in the water supply.

      • Bad Tom

        Or vaccines.

        • Gianni

          Give him time. If he reads something about the above ingredients, he’ll mix that into his well-thought-out formula. That, of course, is presuming that he doesn’t kick the bucket first.

        • clay

          Oh mah gawd! he was ex-military! He got super-heavy dose vaccines!

          /s

          • Bad Tom

            Indeed he did. Perhaps some of them experimental.

    • another_steve

      Aspartame turned me gay btw.

      • Canadian Observer

        That’s why I stuck with saccharin. bwahahaha

  • AmeriCanadian

    Is it me or does his right eye (left in pic) look like it’s been glued to a glory hole for way too long?

    • Treant

      I’ve looked a bit like that come a morning. Back in college.

      • AmeriCanadian

        I miss those old arcades! 😉

    • Todd20036

      Um… how would you know about that look????

      • AmeriCanadian

        Let’s just say I’m old. Yeah, that’s the ticket.

  • Todd

    Commandment #6: Thou shalt not kill.

    Commandment #6.A: The right to own and use assault rifles supersedes Commandment #6.

  • Boreal

    I blame chemtrails!

    • Lizard

      Oh damn, Boreal–you beat me to it. Whoops!

    • Joe in PA

      I was “facebook friends” with the guy that put up our deer fence…every other post was about chemtrails. Dang, those things get blamed for a lot of things. His posts mostly stayed with the strange chemtrails/flouride/vaccines stories but then he posted, kind of out of the blue: The Clintons supplied the Obamas with children for sex.

      He got blasted and unfriended, and he’ll never see any of our money again.

      • Boreal

        I once had a professor in college that believed this stuff. Rational about a lot of things but this made me shake my head.

        • Lizard

          I could never quite figure out how such a brilliant chemist in my university’s department was also a young-earth Creationist, but he did damn good science. Some people can just compartmentalize it.

          • Tulle Christensen

            Chemical reactions have not changed since the Universe became transparent.

          • The_Wretched

            Transparent to what?

  • Ragnar Lothbrok
  • another_steve

    Pat Robertson is alive and those poor people in Texas are dead.

    Life can be extremely unfair.

    • Lizard

      Evidence against a benevolent God, imo.

      • another_steve

        An example of the perfection of the institutional religion scam (there are notable exceptions out there, but I think this applies more or less across the board) is that any horror – any tragedy – can be explained away and you cannot disprove the “explaining away” rationale.

        “God works in mysterious ways.”

        How do you / can you disprove such a statement?

        • Lizard

          Con 101. Create the affliction (sin), sell the cure (religion). Any nuances or inconveniences are handwaved away with “You must have faith, my child.”

          • Gianni

            Exactly!. And it works wonderfully to shut down any doubting, questioning, wondering, or any other use of the thinking part of the normal brain.

          • another_steve

            Faith healing is the perfect example.

            If you don’t get better as a result of my laying hands on you, it’s because you lack faith.

            The perfect scam.

          • Lizard

            And riddled in human psychology. Just like with psychics, people forget the 50 misses if they see one lucky hit.

          • another_steve

            Yes. Belief in ghosts and the “paranormal” is predicated on the same principles.

            People believing what they want to believe.

    • Todd20036

      Says a lot about their puny god. Can’t even keep parishoners alive in their church.

      • Karl Dubhe

        Theirs?

        D’ya have a god? Is his name Priapus? 🙂

    • RoFaWh

      It’s far from certain that Robertson is actually alive. That may very well just be his nicely stuffed corpse hooked up to animatronic actuators and a sound card.

      • another_steve

        Agree.

        The technology has come a long way since Disneyland’s “It’s a Small World” ride.

  • OdieDenCO

    really pat, all these mass shooting have some nexus to them? perhaps it is centuries of teaching blind faith instead of critical thinking. perhaps it is allowing corporations to buy congress. perhaps it is idiots with a platform spouting nonsense on any and everything.

    • another_steve

      Perhaps it’s a lack of access to mental health services in the United States.

      Robertson’s orange führer is doing the best he can to create obstacles for obtaining affordable, quality health care here.

  • 2patricius2

    Pat Robertson: “Guns don’t kill people. Antidepressants kill people.”

    • Joe in PA

      If only there had been a GOOD antidepressant with a gun? Or something.

  • james1200
  • Lazycrockett

    Too easy.

  • Steverino

    Antidepressants don’t kill people, people kill people.
    /s

  • AdamTh

    Patty Robertson, possibly the only person that can make Donnie tRump appear intelligent…

  • BJORN RAGNVALDR

    The nexus of most mental illness is religion, pat.

  • Lizard

    He couldn’t very well blame taking prayer out of church, and a Baptist church in Texas statistically isn’t likely to support progressive social causes like same-sex marriage or abortion.

    *glances down list of scapegoats*

    Anti-depressants! That’ll work.

  • Michael R

    Hi Pat , most mass shootings involve a gun of some sorts , thanks for playing .

    • Lizard

      Kind of by definition…

  • Ragnar Lothbrok
  • infmom

    OK, so what do we blame for Pat Robertson?

  • Treant

    Honey. Honey. I’m clinically depressed. Fortunately, it’s diagnosed as mild to moderate. Frankly, if this is mild to moderate, I don’t want to see what severe is, ever (my BIL works with the severely depressed; some get drugs just to get up the energy to kill themselves).

    I’m on 225 mg per day of Venalfaxine and my chances of picking up a gun are approximately zero. Why? Because I have doctor’s monitoring and we watched out for the side effects. My normal emotional range of 1-4 on the ten point scale is now 3-7, so I’d call that a major improvement.

    • Joe in PA

      Thank you for sharing that…always important to get the word out and the stigma down! Drugs can be your friend.

      • Treant

        Far more than half my family is on anti-depressants, it runs in our genes. For us, they turned us from seriously dysfunctional into passable as normal under the right light.

    • clay

      Yep, I bet that a bigger nexus is people who quit their meds without medical supervision.

    • greenmanTN

      Can’t you just turn that frown upside down? /s

      Don’t let anyone ever tell you depression isn’t lethal.

      • Treant

        I heard that expression any number of times until I started going slightly nuclear on people who used it.

        “It’s a fucking disease, asshole. You don’t tell somebody in a wheelchair, ‘You should just stand up and walk.’ And if you don’t understand that, fuck off.”

      • Mikey

        or that it doesn’t physically hurt.

      • yes b’y

        I had a dr that told me to go out and buy a hat. How Ricky Ricardo is that

    • hdtex

      I’m right there with you with a side dose of seroquel, and the odds of me harming others are exactly ZILCH.

      • Treant

        High five!

    • lattebud

      And you have a doctor that sounds engaged and knowledgeable about treating depression. Not a general practitioner who has just wants to collect a payment for a medication maintenance appointment every 90 Days and prescribe the drug with the cutest drug rep.

  • Cuberly Deux

    I’m confused, at Raw Story a christian nutcase is claiming it’s all part of gods great plan.

    “Fiene then says that, in order to fully defeat evil eternally, God has to let evil get some temporary victories, such as this weekend’s mass shooting.”

    “So when a madman with a rifle sought to persecute the faithful at First Baptist Church on Sunday morning, he failed,” Fiene says. “Just like those who put Christ to death, and just like those who have brought violence to believers in every generation, this man only succeeded in being the means through which God delivered his children from this evil world into an eternity of righteousness and peace.”

    https://www.rawstory.com/2017/11/conservative-writer-god-was-answering-prayers-of-texas-victims-by-letting-them-get-shot/

    …and the animated corpse Pat wants to blame it on proscribed medication, which if someone is having mental problems, gee, maybe there’s more of a chance they’d be taking these meds…

    So is god fucking with these two or are they both full of ca ca?

    • Lizard

      I’m leaning towards caca, myself.

    • Treant

      You’re supposed to use whichever argument trumps your opponents’, regardless of how much sense it might make.

    • WitlessProtection

      Trying to win an argument with a Christian is like playing chess with a pigeon, he’s just going shit all over the board, knock over all the pieces and then walk away claiming victory.

      • Lizard

        I say you’re better off bashing your head into a wall. At least you might make a dent in the wall.

  • hdtex
  • IAMBOWLINGQUEEN
    • HAAAAAAA

      “Either God can do nothing to stop catastrophes
      like this, or he doesn’t care to, or he doesn’t exist. God is either
      impotent, evil, or imaginary. Take your pick, and choose wisely.
      Sam Harris

    • JackFknTwist

      “engage with reality”

      “back off creep”

      I need to compile a list of the classics !

    • Hank

      Said the REST of the World to the USA!!!

  • MikeBx2

    That wasn’t even in my top 10 of excuses Pat Robertson would give. Wow. Just wow.

  • Tawreos

    Pat, take a moment to consider that god couldn’t protect his worshipers in his own house from a maniac. A maniac that killed 26 people with a gun, not anti-depressants.

  • Blake Mason
  • Karl Dubhe

    Of course, the nexus can’t possibly be easy access to firearms…

    One of these days I’ll see a pat robertson story that will make me happy; “Pat Robertson was called home, today.” I can hardly wait, but of course, the next grifter will fill his shoes quickly.

    • Snarkaholic

      The other grifters will be fighting each other to the death in order to capture that market share.

  • Girlgoon

    Jim Baker, ” buy my food buckets and god will protect you from being shot”.

    • greenmanTN

      I wouldn’t put it past him.

    • The_Wretched

      If you build walls around your house with enough of his food buckets, you’ll never get shot.

      • William

        Add water and the Mac n Cheez becomes bulletproof.

        • Lars Littlefield

          It’s also great for stucco repair.

          • William

            Stucco, sidewalks, space shuttle tiles….

      • Snarkaholic

        The stench of the genuine-imitation-artificial-food-like substances will cause the shooter to flee…leaving a trail of vomit in his wake!

    • JackFknTwist

      Snake-oil salesman.
      These little fraudsters have always pulled in the stupid ones.

    • Snarkaholic

      You can clap the empty bucket (upside down) over the shooter’s head. Since he won’t be able to see, you’ll then have a sporting chance!

  • JackFknTwist

    I need f ucking anti-depressants listening to the vomit that spews from this c unt of an orifice.

    • canoebum

      Wait….you actually listened to that? I like myself too much to do something so painful.

      • JackFknTwist

        I got to 3.22 ……………after that I just gave up.

  • Elagabalus

    You mean he didn’t blame it on the gays? I’m shocked!

    • Ernest Endevor

      He’ll get around to it.

    • Lizard

      Texas Baptist church with a twice-married shooter. He must’ve figured it would be a hard sell.

  • Kevin Perez

    After Pat Robertson died, you’d think the power that be would bury the body. Seeing his animated zombie corpse still wander the Earth makes me sad.

    • Mikey

      What was never alive cannot die nor be killed.

    • The_Wretched

      Just drop it into an active volcano.

  • Ernest Endevor

    Too bad Jesus could do nothing to protect His worshippers in His fucking house of worship while they were worshipping Him.

    • Homo Erectus

      Jesus was at Joel Osteen’s church trying to get a blessing.

  • BeaverTales

    Did he convert to Scientology?

  • Galvestonian

    Speaking of depressing … Pat certainly doles that out in large quantities. If someone shot up the 700 club studio where do you think ol’ Pat would stand ??? Certainly not in favor of the gun nuts.

    • Mikey

      I’d sort of hope he’d stand right in the cross-hairs.

  • AtticusP

    With or without anti-depressants, there’s only one way that I would ever sit through one of Pat Robertson’s preposterous programs.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ae0a571a127283be4c2ff7c234913f3a40d2a269e7c83b38170dad57159cf6c5.gif

  • TrueWords
  • Blake J Butler
  • Tom Furgas

    No question about it; that man’s ears are getting bigger with each passing day.

  • clay

    So, what you’re saying is this is what Tom Cruise will look like in 35 years?

    • Tomcat

      And sound like.

  • ultragreen

    What prompted this comment? Was the shooter on antidepressants? There have been some studies that indicate a link between some antidepressants and more aggressive behavior.

    • The_Wretched

      Anything to deflect from the actual issue of a domestic abuser’s access to guns. Also, they have a harder time pulling the race / terrorism card when the shooter is a white man.

  • HAAAAAAA
  • Frank McCormick

    Has Pat converted to Scientology?

    • Tulle Christensen

      I have seen a few studies that show some young adults can become more depressed from anti-depressants. The studies suggested close monitoring of those under 25 if they were given anti-depressants

      • Mikey

        All patients prescribed anti-depressants have to be closely watched for the first few months. Anti-depressants can have adverse effects with some patients, and most go through multiple trials of drugs or combinations before finding one that works.
        Everyone I know who is on them has had to try multiple combinations before hitting one that worked. They are now happy, productive, and most importantly: free of debilitating depression.

        • 2guysnamedjoe

          Not everyone gets the proper follow-up. Sometimes it isn’t available; sometimes the pt doesn’t follow through.

    • William

      Did he jump around on the couch?

      • Lars Littlefield

        Not yet, but he’s sure soiled his share of them.

  • Gianni

    I somewhat surprised that Pat didn’t use this new shoot-em-up occasion to hammer us all about another example of God’s punishment for America being tolerant of abortion, homosexuality, and gay marriage. Perhaps it’s because the punished one’s were such a specific group – Christians, in church no less.

  • What a ghoul.

  • Lazycrockett
    • Lizard

      Let the Nazi cries of persecution and censorship begin.

    • Treant

      My heart bleeds for the compromising of their First Amendment rights. I’ll get on fixing that directly.

    • Dreaming Vertebrate

      Haha-HAHAHA! Luv it!
      No “safe space” for Nazis!!

    • Paula

      They thought they could pull this crap at UT Austin? They need to research things first.

  • MikeBx2

    This is closer to what I expected from Pat. More of a Jim Jones demented reasoning. “the means through which God delivered his children from this evil world”…
    https://twitter.com/hemantmehta/status/927632954028843008

    • Natty Enquirer

      “God delivered his children from this evil world into an eternity of righteousness and peace.”
      Rev. Twisted Death Cultist

      • JohnJay

        So, then abortion should be looked upon favorably… delivering children from this evil world even faster.

  • Mikey

    “All these crimes are caused by the little talking people that live in the magic moving picture box in my sitting room at the home.”

  • djcoastermark

    Was patty talking about the nexus 4 or was he referring to hair products? I’m at a loss to understand him.

  • Gianni

    “…..But I do think there’s got to be a thorough investigation into the effect of antidepressants on these….” Sure, Pat, just pick your current favorite excuse and let’s dive in with all sorts of taxpayer-funded investigations. I wonder if any of his staff laugh off-camera when he blathers on and on with his nonsense like he fucking knows what he’s talking about.

  • JWC

    Ya the “some Nexus is lack of gun control and The NRA strangle hold

  • Michael R

    ” Pat Robertson said that begetting his son out of wedlock
    occurred before Jesus Christ had entered his life. “

    • JackFknTwist

      So he became homosexual then ?

    • 2guysnamedjoe

      entered his life, or his wife?

  • Tomcat

    Some people just use religion for their junky fix. Still just as fucking nuts however.

  • JackFknTwist

    The truth is that the insane rantings of this neurotic, guilt ridden midget would cause anyone to go on anti-depressants.

  • Hank
    • RobynWatts

      Liberal! Must be a Democrat….oh, wait.

    • Boreal

      That commie!

    • The_Wretched

      Regan had generally pro-union statements too. That didn’t stop him from breaking the air traffic controllers.

      • Lars Littlefield

        Which Reagan was that? He was viciously anti-union during his years as governor, trying to break up the CA state teachers union, the attempts at University of CA and State College faculties to unionize, insisting that unions were a key threat to freedom in the USA because they operated just like the Communist party. And his famous fight to prevent air traffic controllers to assemble and form a union. The man was a fucking asshole. All of this erased any positive stuff he may have believed or did as head of SAG. The hypocrite.

        • 2guysnamedjoe

          I applied for an Air Traffic Controller job late in the Carter Administration, and was turned down for color blindness. A few months later, after Raygun had fired the striking ATCs, I got a letter asking if I was still interested in the job. I replied that I wasn’t interested in scabbing at the present time, but to please get back in touch once a fair settlement with PATCO is reached.

          • Lars Littlefield

            LOL! Good for you. Among my circle of friends back then was a guy who showed up in SLC from Indiana. He was an air traffic controller. He was also the most drug/alcohol addled party boy I’d met in a long time. We were always picking his passed out person and putting him to bed or in a taxi. I’m not a fan of what Reagan pulled off, but in the case of this one individual it’s probably a good thing he lost his job. He was much better suited for his next career as a pissy waiter at La Caille deep in the cottonwood bottoms at the mouth of Big Cottonwood Canyon. He could snort as much coke as he wanted and not put planeloads of passengers in danger. Z:-)

        • The_Wretched
        • The_Wretched

          I agree, he often made speeches that were tuned to certain audiences and they didn’t match each other or his actual plans.

  • Lars Littlefield

    I used to drive a Nexus. Traded it in for a new Jeep Wrangler. Much better for attacking the four-wheel roads in these parts.

  • Larry in Oklahoma

    Hey, if anything is the issue, it’s Pat. And Jim Bakker. And Kellyann. Seriously, tho, I noticed that AR-15’s are the weapon of choice. Of course, here in the south, there are a lot of people that take great pride in the fact that they can get and have the AR-15. That’s not a weapon for hunting wildlife.

    • Homo Erectus

      You can get many rabbits.

  • Taylor

    Wait! What??? You mean it wasn’t they Gays fault???

    Come on guys, we’re slipping!!

    • 2guysnamedjoe

      It’s not my fault. I’ve been working the extreme weather machine this week.

  • Well bless his heart.

    • Gregory B

      And his tiny, wee, pea of a brain.

  • William

    Isn’t it time to plant Pat out in the back garden?

    • Lars Littlefield

      Every time we do the neighbor’s big ol’ yeller dog keeps digging him up.

      Maybe if we shot the dog?

      • 2guysnamedjoe

        And then he rolls in him. Eeeew!

    • Hank

      Next to whatever pets went before he became a mummified zombie!!!

  • Cuberly Deux

    OT: Love it, misleading and outright lies were leading in google search results re; the Texas church shooter.

    Welcome to the interwebz…

    https://techcrunch.com/2017/11/06/google-is-surfacing-texas-shooter-misinformation-in-search-results-thanks-also-to-twitter/

    https://twitter.com/justinhendrix/status/927335154707828736

    • The_Wretched

      There should be a way to flag / have the corps back track who is floating this disinformation and get corrections.

    • Lars Littlefield

      And yet not one mention of all his good work teaching the local Boy Scouts fire arm safety and keeping ‘Merica free!

    • coram nobis

      NYT is running a story alleging he was an avowed atheist.

      https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/06/us/devin-patrick-kelley-texas.html

      Incidentally, as I posted elsewhere, I looked up the Manual for Courts-Martial w/ regards to his USAF conviction. Aggravated battery on a child (Art. 128) is punishable by 5-8 years’ imprisonment. He should not have been on the loose.

  • Dayglo
  • FAEN

    I still don’t get you Universe. How is it that Bowie is dead but this sick twisted fuck is still alive and well.

  • PianoGuy

    It just blows my mind that in this day ministers advocate for guns!

    • GanymedeRenard

      Oh, but religious leaders have always advocated for swords since, like, Moses?

    • 2guysnamedjoe

      There’s a long history of this, from the popes and cardinals pushing the Crusades, to Cardinal Spellman blessing the planes that were soon to drop bombs on VietNam.

    • Homo Erectus

      And they still advocate for jebus, who will protect you and keep you

  • penpal

    He literally just makes things up as he goes along.

    • Gianni

      I think that Pat’s mind has likely reached the point where it seizes on a current topic then just “goes along” and utters things.

  • Cuberly Deux

    OT: uh oh…more interwebz arcana.

    “Earlier today, Twitter users discovered that searching for the term “bisexual” in photos, videos, or news yielded no results, while other search terms, such as “homosexual,” “gay,” or “lesbian did. While the company has reported that it is working to quickly resolve the issue, it’s been criticized for appearing to censor the term.”

    https://www.theverge.com/2017/11/5/16610296/twitter-fixing-error-removed-bisexual-news-photo-videos-search-results

  • Boreal
    • Lars Littlefield

      The 50 mm Jesus Rapture. Coming to a place of worship near you.

  • Dazzer

    Pat Robertson is one of the biggest symptoms of America’s illness.

    He keeps on generating more and more poison in the body of American life.

  • FelineMama

    ANTI-FUCKIN’ DEPRESSANTS??!!! Oh, patty, that final loose screw you’ve been carrying around finally fell thru that space between your ears.
    You’re not blaming the LGBT community this time?

  • Adam King

    Any croaking toad is more relevant.

  • Gery Weißschädel

    ‘Merica must have some bad scripted drugs on the market. Don’t recall other countries where people on antidepressants have taken to mass killings. He’s right then, gotta look at why and how the pharmaceutical companies are allowed to market and sell tainted meds.

    • William

      There was that German pilot who crashed a fully loaded passenger jet into a mountain.

  • DaveMiller135

    Again, proper (or any) background checks, would help to keep guns out of the hands of people with serious mental illness. Anti-depressants are a red flag, without necessarily being a stop sign, with regard to gun ownership. They do indicate that further questions need to be asked. Honestly, if I had my way, I’d include a few questions about the zeal of the applicant’s religious feelings. More zeal = fewer guns. I bet even Blaise Pascal could get behind that logic.

  • ByronK

    Pat, your fucking religion is responsible for more murders than anti-depressants. Think of all the lives that could be potentially saved if you’d stop procrastinating and just drop dead already.

  • My hunch is that someone taking prescribed anti-depressants is more likely to be in a better and more controlled mental state than someone refusing to take anti-depressants that were prescribed for them.

  • GanymedeRenard

    What we need to see is what they’re giving you to keep you alive. You’re past due, old fart.

    • Franciscan

      Embalming fluid?

      • GanymedeRenard

        That would be too heathen for this Christer.

  • jvc in NYC

    This crazy old shithead is actually turning trumpian orange.

    • coram nobis

      It’s the studio makeup, but yes, it looks like Donald’s usual Tang No. 3 Pancake.

      • JAKvirginia

        Oh, I thought it was Western Sunset #6.

      • Gianni

        🙂 Tang No. 3? 🙂 Paints just the right picture!

  • Dagoril

    So not only does he want mass murder sprees every week or two, he also wants thousands of people to suffer needlessly from Depression.

    God what a fucking asshole.

  • anne marie in philly

    I blame scamvangelists like this dickhead. AND THE NRA & THE GUN MAKERS!

  • JAKvirginia

    “So, we need to see what we are giving people!” In this case, bullshit from the Good Book, apparently.

  • safari

    Let’s just lock Pat in the “olde timey” loony bin and we can keep our drugs.

  • safari

    I have family members that believe this.

    Why yes, their adult children are barely functional.

  • The phrase you’re looking for, Pat, is “domestic violence”.

  • Chrissy

    So Pat has joined Scientology?

  • Friday

    Cause it couldn’t possibly have anything to do with the straight Baptist domestic-abusing gun-nuttery? Right, Pat?”

  • Dunkerblinker

    He looks more like Gollum everyday.

    • Ben in Oakland

      But Gollum was funny.

  • Citation needed.

    • ultragreen

      It’s not hard to find those studies. Use google.

      • To find peer reviewed studies, you are better off with scholar.googe.com. So I checked. Here’s what I found.

        “Role of Antidepressants in Murder and Suicide.” American Journal of Psychiatry, 159(7), pp. 1248–1249

        From the abstract:
        “The findings in our study lend no support to the position that the use of SSRIs is associated with violence or suicide. The fact that only 2.4% of these persons were taking antidepressants at the time they killed family members and then themselves is less than one would expect in the general population, given that SSRIs were widely prescribed in the 1990s (5). These data do not support an association between the use of SSRIs and violence or suicide. There is no evidence suggesting that clinicians should hesitate in prescribing SSRIs, which have been shown to be safe and effective, for fear of violent and/or suicidal consequences.”

        I did find other studies whose results called for further study. If you have found a study with a causal link between antidepressants and mass shootings, feel free to share. I’m not going to spend half a day looking for something you claim is easy to find.

  • leastyebejudged

    The guy was a wife, child, and pet abuser.

    Not saying that the USA isn’t the most drug saturated country on earth, it IS.

    Not saying that more of our population than any other nation dies from malpractice and greed-based medical care – because it does.

    Not saying that we don’t have a severe drug problem in this country that is destroying the futures of millions, all while the already mega-rich continue to rake-in the massive drug company profits.

    But this guy had a history of animal, child, and spousal abuse.

    That should have disqualified him from owning any firearms. And THAT is at issue here.

  • Tom G
  • Canadian Observer

    Has Pat gone and converted to Scientology or something?

  • boatboy_srq

    Y’know, if the US cared in the least about, I dunno, mental effing health,, then perhaps we would see a change.

    Instead we have wingnuts complaining about medicine and attributing people’s behavior to anything except their bvllshyte.

  • JCF

    Yeah, there aren’t powerful enough meds to cure Pat’s dementia.

    …but on the front of ACTUAL causes of yesterday’s shooting: apparently the Air Force didn’t put Kelley’s domestic violence convictions into the “Don’t Sell Guns to this POS” database. Seriously, USAF head(s) need to roll over this. It’s bad enough how weak our gun laws are as it is, w/o adding incompetent enforcement to the mix…

    http://blog.questia.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Domestic-violence.png

  • JParkerSD46

    F***, after reading the latest spew from ol’ Batshit Crazy Pat, I need anti-depressants.

  • Charles Nelson

    Mr Robertson…my doctor recently has put me on anti-depressants. Where did you say you live?

  • Homo Erectus

    Huh? I thought it was caused by Mooslims.

  • TheManicMechanic

    Im willing to put up with one more mass shooting if it would take Pat and some of his religionist cronies out for good.

  • lucadrian

    This bunch of bones in a saggy sack of skin needs to sit down

  • Wynter Marie Starr

    Proof, asshole? Peer reviewed proof at that. Most people that are depressed can barely get out of bed, let alone think about and plan a mass shooting. We do have a problem in this country. It involves guns and angry white men. I’m pretty sure if you weren’t a walking fossil, you might be among these mass shooters.

  • Yeah, there’s a nexus to them.

    It’s the intersection between angry, entitled white men and easy access to guns.

    Because ultimately, most mass shootings are done by men, and of the men, most of them are white men.

  • Rick

    Ignorant asshole. I don’t take antidepressants to keep me from killing people like you, I take them to keep me from killing myself.

    • Friday

      Pssst, the hate-preachers want their ‘flock’ to have guns and untreated mental illnesses. You didn’t notice?

  • andrew

    Oh no. Poor demented Pat has gone and forgotten that them homosectuals are responsible for all the evils in our country. What is America going to do now that one of our leading lights has so dimmed?

  • MassageBear

    TX Church Shooter didn’t act alone but was assisted by 52 senators, 298 representatives, 45 & the NRA.

  • CraigNJ

    The nexus in most mass killings is religion.

    • Friday

      Specific ones, too.

  • gothambear

    If only Pat Robertson had been the visiting pastor at the Sutherland Springs Baptist Church this past weekend…he could have answered God’s call. Or Satan’s.

  • amati1684

    One of the reasons people take anti-depressants is to survive breathing the same air as Pat Roberson.

  • Gregory In Seattle

    Pat: if the terrorist had been a few shades darker, YOU would be the one politicizing it.

  • Mike Knife

    I can not believe he got that right, I have been saying that for years. Gunman Devin Kelley took high doses of psych meds before he killed people in church. Proof people who take psych meds get guns and kill people.

  • Gianni

    I get the impression that Pat is like Donnie. He reads something or hears something and parts of it stick in his mind and then become something central to his reasoning on current subjects. Someone mentioned anti-depressants and Pat seized on it as the real problem when the news broke about the shooting – the ‘nexus’ as he called it. He is drifting farther all the time. Should really STFU.

  • Paula Key

    The sin of Pride – the unwillingness to admit that I was wrong.

  • SilasMarner

    this fool needs to drink a big ole’ glass of hemlock or swallow a belladonna capsule.

    • (((GC)))

      Or better yet, he needs to get some reason and empathy for a change!!!

  • Nowhereman

    This fool needs to go spend more time with his family. Isn’t there some home that we could send him and Jim Bakker to? How about a geriatric prison wing?

  • Ann Kah

    What we are giving them is the right to arm themselves to an extent that makes Columbian drug lords jealous, and the right to do so no matter how angry/intoxicated/senile/psychopathic they are.