Leaked Docs Show Commerce Sec. Wilbur Ross Holds Undisclosed Stake In Company Run By Putin’s Family

NBC News reports:

Wilbur Ross, the commerce secretary in the Trump administration, shares business interests with Vladimir Putin’s immediate family, and he failed to clearly disclose those interests when he was being confirmed for his cabinet position.

Ross — a billionaire industrialist — retains an interest in a shipping company, Navigator Holdings, that was partially owned by his former investment company. One of Navigator’s most important business relationships is with a Russian energy firm controlled, in turn, by Putin’s son-in-law and other members of the Russian president’s inner circle.

Some of the details of Ross’s continuing financial holdings — much of which were not disclosed during his confirmation process — are revealed in a trove of more than 7 million internal documents of Appleby, a Bermuda-based law firm, that was leaked to the German newspaper Süddeutsche Zeitung.

More from the Guardian:

Navigator operates a lucrative partnership with Sibur, a Russian gas company part-owned by Kirill Shamalov, the husband of Putin’s daughter Katerina Tikhonova.

The involvement of both Ross and Shamalov in the shipping venture dates back to 2011. That year, Ross’s investment firm, WL Ross, began buying into Navigator with an investment that gave Ross two seats on the company’s board. Meanwhile, in Moscow, Shamalov began investing in Sibur, which was formerly state-owned.

By January 2012, having built up his holding in the Russian company, Shamalov, then 29, was made its deputy chairman. That summer, WL Ross took control of Navigator by buying a further $110m stake from the collapsed Lehman Brothers bank.

  • Gustav2

    Gee, most of us are not surprised.

  • Pat Padrnos

    Well….oops and gosh. How shocking is this?

  • DaddyRay
    • Goodboy

      Looks like a pretty good orgasm to me.

    • shellback

      No over-acting for him.

    • Jim Maloney

      This is hilarious and fitting. Thank you.

      • Galvestonian

        His reaction is actually seeing grandmom and granddad going at it – both of them starkers and banging away like dogs in heat and grannies titties flopping every which way.

  • crewman

    Commerce Secretary Ross was a minor player. A low-level, unknown secretary really. I don’t know if I ever met him. For all I know, he might be a Democrat. Is he a Democrat? Many people, good people, are saying he was a plant by Crooked Hillary.

    • DaddyRay

      People are saying he only got coffee

      • Gustav2

        Other people are saying he facilitated my loans from Russians thru the Cyprus bank when he brought the coffee.

        • Jeffrey

          But I personally doubt that such a person even exists because I have never heard of him.

        • Xiao Ai: The Social Gadfly

          Miley Cyprus?

        • Anastasia Beaverhousen

          In a Starbuck’s non-christmasy holiday cup!

        • Paula

          They had to do it in Cyprus. The smell of borscht on the money was giving them away. All those nasty beet stains were hard to get out of the money.

        • Joe in PA

          You misspelled Cypress.

          Teeheehee (so did the lawyers for Manafort–according to Rachel this week).

          • Gustav2
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      • Todd20036

        When in reality, he got covfefe.

        • northern_neighbour

          Oops1 Sorry Todd, I missed your post when I commented above. Yeah, you’re absolutely right. That’s what he got.

      • AlternativeQuacks

        How many covfefe boys do they need?

      • northern_neighbour

        You’ve gone and misspelled covfefe … He got covfefe .. and that’s all.

    • Paula

      He’s been calling my house a lot and hanging up when we answer. I think Bernie put him up to it.

    • Todd20036

      Careful Crewman. A few more comments like that and Trump may ask you to start issuing his press releases.

      • Joe in PA

        Pffft, Crewman could never pull off those Pepto Bismol pink elephant sleeves.

    • TrueWords
      • Marides48

        Spring time for tRumpy in America……..

        • MonochromeMouse

          winter for everyone else.

      • MonochromeMouse

        By “Drain The Swamp” what trump meant was “Fill the swamp up with sewage until it overflows and becomes a septic trench” which is sort of like draining.

    • TrueWords
    • David

      Elvis and Bigfoot are actually behind the whole thing.

    • EdA

      While this guy Walter could take dictation, as a secretary he couldn’t type worth a damn. He couldn’t even spell covfefe

  • Rocco

    Well, lock him up too!

    • ClevelandJim

      We’se needin a bigger paddy wagon here.

  • tbj5

    Republicans in the Senate railroaded his nomination with lightning speed.

    They knew he was very likely a criminal and couldn’t withstand any real scrutiny.

  • And Putin is doing all this because he wants to force the world to buy his Siberian petroleum.

    • Goodboy

      There’s his real return on the trump investment. After making the US a pariah of coarse.

      • Lars Littlefield

        Siberian petroleum jelly is unique in that it’s great lube and feels so cool to the touch. That’s a hard sensation to create.

    • McSwagg

      Russian pumps its heavy Siberian crude, then flashes off the higher value naphtha (gasoline) and kerosene (jet fuel) before selling the remaining sludge on the world market. Nobody really wants it because its been stripped of its most valuable fractions and what remains requires special equipment and high costs to process into useful products.

  • fuzzybits
  • Ernest Endevor

    Because these pigs are all too boring, too deserving of scorn and contempt, here—wildly OT—is something lavishly beautiful to make you understand the privilege of being human and witness the exhilaration of art. (No, I haven’t been at the Tito’s. Thanks for asking) If that seems a tad OTT, take a look.

    https://youtu.be/n0zqQxz4DHs

    • Oscarlating Wildely

      ….the opening is “now the end is near”… I only hope it’s not OT.

  • Treant

    So he lied on his disclosure forms.

    Shocker.

    Lock him up.

    • Gustav2

      The defense will be he listed the umbrella company as part of his holdings, it is the Senate’s fault they didn’t discover the partnership with the Russians

  • Blake J Butler

    I can’t keep up with these stone age assholes he has in his administration, i’m just looking out for information that one of them died, is on their way to prison, or they are resigning because of ethical dilemmas that would put them in prison.

  • Goodboy

    Way to go German free press!! That’s what ours used to do.

  • JWC

    Rachel exposed Wilbur Ross months ago as the #2 man at the bank of Cyprus ..the Kremlin laudromat

    • Tor

      The cleanest money in the Mediterranean!

      • drbrentzenobia

        Whiter than White, that’s their motto.

        Oh, were you referring to the money? Yeah that’s white too.

  • Tulle Christensen

    Come on people do you expect Trump’s cabinet to remember all their Russian collusion. It is obvious he simply forgot about all that money he was making off it when he filled out his forms

    Plus his dog ate the paperwork

    • Lars Littlefield

      Heck, yeah. It’s like we all don’t have any sympathy.

  • Lazycrockett
  • Barry William Teske

    Dot. Dot. Dotted line.

  • Karl Dubhe

    Holy crap.

    In a normal world this would be the biggest scandal ever. I’m sure Trump’s able to ask us all to hold his beer though.

    The Cdn PM also has links to this story…

  • Blake J Butler
  • clay
    • Treant

      I seriously want some bedroom time with Cody. 🙂

    • Tulle Christensen

      See this proves Hillary is a criminal. I have video evidence of her on stage will Trump last year

      added:more than once

    • RoFaWh

      It’s not weird at all. Trump himself has surely violated the law many times during his long years of running real estate scams , but the legal system has (apparently) never held him to account for those crimes.

      When Muelller finishes dissecting the Trump Organization, Trump himself will be finished.

      What a sleaze! (in reference to Trump)

      • Todd20036

        Trump raped a kid. No one honorable or moral hangs with a kiddie rapist

    • Joe in PA

      He’s great.

  • Dreaming Vertebrate

    Drain the Swamp??
    (Then fill it right back up with meaner, nastier, greedier swamp critters.)
    Most corrupt admin EVER!

    • Cuberly Deux

      …and uglier…whoooo boy, that guy’s mug is straight out of arch-villain central casting.

  • Lars Littlefield

    And yet still no mention of his 90% interest in the Borscht Concession at the Kremlin.

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  • PickyPecker

    Maing it all the more delicious to imagine the big orange fish squirming out there.
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C_oB2yPXgAIemlx.jpg

    • Paula

      Prison by X-mas!!

      • PickyPecker
        • Paula

          Tastefully done..

        • another_steve

          The Baby Jesus adores incarceration.

          (I think…)

          • ChrisMorley

            Your catholic husband could help you with spelling/theology
            🙏🙏🙏

          • another_steve

            Oh yes, thank you. “Incarnation.”

            The goyim, I find, are quite amusing.

            I married one, to my never-ending amusement.

    • Robincho

      With his microdigits, even Dumpy could prolly figure out how to uncuff himself…

      • ChrisMorley

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        • another_steve

          Chris, I always enjoy (and learn from) your insights.

          Do you there in the U.K. have anyone at the current time who rises to the stench-hood of our Donald Trump and his co-conspirators?

          • ChrisMorley

            Short answer, No.
            I was just thinking earlier today, when was the last time we had any Ministers or senior civil servants charged with crimes. 4 years ago. Chris Huhne, Energy Secretary (and his ex wife) both jailed 8 months for perverting the course of justice.
            A messy divorce and he pressured her to take the rap for his speeding ticket, so it wasn’t even a political crime. https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2013/mar/11/chris-huhne-vicky-pryce

            However Her Maj Betty is not squeaky clean:
            Revealed: Queen’s private estate invested millions of pounds offshore
            – Paradise Papers leak reveals Duchy of Lancaster [part of Queen’s income] put money into retailer criticised for exploiting poor families
            https://www.theguardian.com/news/2017/nov/05/revealed-queen-private-estate-invested-offshore-paradise-papers

          • another_steve

            Somewhat disappointing, this scandal involving your Queen.

            Girl ascended to the throne the year I was born – 1952. My husband’s aunt (then well-connected in international circles) attended her coronation ceremony.

            I trust in Betty’s purity.

            Surely, she was duped.

          • ChrisMorley

            I have republican (= anti-monarchy) leanings.
            She has access to the best financial advice and has tripped up more than once before in managing her finances in ways ethically acceptable to the nation.
            She is also bright and has no excuse for choosing to put the £££££ in a shady tax haven.
            Bad Queen. She’s part of the 1% and Charles will be worse.

          • another_steve

            Hear ya.

            The question, then, becomes “is she evil or under the influence of evil advisers?”

            I recognize a distinction there.

          • Galvestonian

            I can just imagine ( with great amusement ) a prison haircut on the dear leader. Hee-hee-hee. I really have to order more popcorn.

          • another_steve

            My current priority is to spare Jared Kushner the indignity of sharing a prison cell with Bruno the Horny – who’s serving a 25-year sentence for sexual assault.

            I feel my personal mission there is…well…justified.

          • Galvestonian

            Absolutely … absolutely justified.

    • vtdave

      Those are not shiny gold #Drumph-branded cuffs!

  • PickyPecker
  • Gigi

    But but but what about Hillary?!?!

  • bkmn
    • Todd20036

      Wait, is Trump white, or orange?

      • narutomania

        Drumpf is …. Drumpf is … that puddle of vomit that you wretch onto a hot summer sidewalk after having gorged yourself on Cheetohs, an Orange Dreamsicle, and a can of Orange Crush.

        • TuuxKabin

          Washed down with Mountain Dew.

          • narutomania

            Eeewwww! Now you’ve gone too far!

          • TuuxKabin

            There’s a lot further to go, naruto, a lot further. /s & #;o)

        • MBear

          Overinflated oompa loompah

    • JerryRich

      Don’t forget the white woman (Betsy DeVos), who like Rick Perry and Scott Pruitt is anti-qualified.

  • Mike Solo

    My Facebook feed has grown eerily quiet from posts by my right wing trump supporting “friends”

    • Tulle Christensen

      weren’t they all killed in yesterdays riots?

      • Xiao Ai: The Social Gadfly

        That was at Bowling Green.

    • BeaverTales

      My one Trump loving friend from grad school is saying that even if Trump is guilty, he will still support him because [fill in excuse here], and that I need to give him a chance because “Trump is not being treated fairly”.

      I remind him that I and the Dems will give him as much fair treatment as the Republicans gave Obama.

      • Todd20036

        I’m sure your friend is ok with concentration camps for us icky gays, too

        • BeaverTales

          I’m not friends with any homophobes. I’ve known this guy for most of my life (grad school was 25 yrs ago). I’ve tried very hard for the past year to get him to realize how awful Trump really is.

          He is very supportive of gay rights and of me personally. He was the only person besides my mother who spent the night by my hospital bed when I had cancer surgery in 2015. I almost died. My mother was falling apart and he helped her keep it together. You’d never know he was a Trump supporter unless you saw his web postings.

          He says he supports Trump because he thinks that too many terrorists are slipping into the country and because he thinks Trump will keep the stock market high.

          • ChrisMorley

            He might pay attention to this?

            America in grave danger from terrorists? The numbers tell a different story
            – Despite the horror of the New York truck attack, data shows that western countries remain very safe when compared to other parts of the world

            https://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2017/nov/05/america-terrorism-risk-global-data-new-york

          • BeaverTales

            No amount of evidence from innumerable sources will change his mind that Trump is a racist homophobic liar. I have the same issue when I talk to Hillary supporters about the evidence of what happened in the DNC. No amount of evidence is good enough.

            All you can do is lay out the evidence and hope they read it objectively, some people never will.

      • Gerry Fisher

        or Clinton

      • clay

        Turmp wasn’t drafted– we shouldn’t have to “give him a chance”. He’s as presidential as he’s ever going to fail to be.

    • Todd20036

      I killed my Facebook account when it was revealed how thoroughly infiltrated by Russian bots.

      Tough break Zuckerman

  • bkmn
    • Gerry Fisher

      Oooohhhh! Poor thing!

    • Daveed_WOW

      When she tried to keep her crown on while losing consciousness just made me love her more.

  • Stogiebear

    Have we no American oligarchs who are not tainted by Russian oligarchs? Where’s our American Exceptionalism is all this???1?!!1

  • Ragnar Lothbrok

    Look on the bright side Wilbur, you won’t have to worry about being anyone’s hot new toy in prison.

    • Boreal

      He could make widespread celibacy break out.

      • Ragnar Lothbrok

        Lol that is a fact.
        But If it means less babies, I’m all for it.

  • Blake J Butler
  • MikeBx2

    Enough of this already. And why is the leader of the most corrupt administration in U.S. history running around Asia representing us?

  • Will Parkinson

    Swam, swamp, swampity, swamp.

  • Gerry Fisher

    The corruption and the extent to which dozens of people were willing to sell out their country for more money (including Peter Thiel’s, “Let’s create an island-city for rich people!”), it’s so deeply depressing and frustrating.

  • Bluto
  • Ninja0980

    Ruh roh Raggy, I think we’re in trouble.

  • David
  • Bambino

    I’m worry for Bob Mueller. The poor prosecutor barely sending out the indictments and is facing daily outing of more colluders. I hope he is not over stress by the work load. Forget about the podcast Preet. I think you are needed.

  • bkmn

    The group behind this work (they also produced the Panama Papers a year and a half ago) have a great interactive graphic regarding those who surround Trump.

    https://www.icij.org/article/us-president-donald-trumps-influencers/

  • safari

    Personal OT: I wake up energetic, happy, even wanting to go into work today just to catch up. I walk outside and it’s like the movie Silent Hill: dark at mid-day, extremely foggy, and drizzling. Okay, no problem. Let’s go! As I pull into the parking lot it starts to downpour. No worries. It’s just a thing. Nothing can take away my motivation. I get into my office. I sit down and begin to work. Or try to. Everything needs to update. I silently cuss as I feel my motivation sapping. Why can’t I just get to work? Then the light shuts off. After the office flood, they replaced the light/alarm sensor, and it seems to only recognize the floor immediately below it. So, if I want lighting, I have to get up every 15 minutes and give it the middle finger.

    I now just want to internet.

  • David

    Another Dotard official guilty of money laundering and treason. How shocking!

    https://media0.giphy.com/media/gBg0yIG2RcaQg/giphy.gif

  • shellback

    Every day, in fact many times a day, I am reminded of that wonderful scene in “In & Out” when Joan Cusack storms out of the bar shouting “Is Everybody Gay?” In my case, its “Is every republican connected to Putin?”
    https://youtu.be/YpLH4ogcy1E

  • Anastasia Beaverhousen

    Dear Santa,
    I️ have been very good this year, if you could promise just one more indictment this year, i could be persuaded to be very, very naughty. And you can let Vixen watch.

  • SoCalGal20
    • Do Something Nice

      Just another day in America, sadly.

      • JWC

        Not a good time to talk about gun control

        • TuuxKabin

          Then church control?

          • JWC

            Ah Never a good time

        • kareemachan

          But somebody will definitely be talking about antifa or terrorists or…

          • JWC

            oh it will be discussed bent and twisted to whatever manner suits their purpose

          • Tulle Christensen

            Depends; is the shooter a straight white male?

    • Sam_Handwich
      • Bambino

        Is that a Black church?

        • Blake J Butler

          Nope white one.

  • Adam King
  • another_steve

    Allow Auntie Stevie to explain it to you, boys and girls:

    This entire Trump Administration is one gigantic criminal enterprise headquartered in and operating out of the White House.

    Got that?

    You’ll be tested. 😉

    • JAKvirginia

      Oh, cripes, another pop quiz?!!

    • ChrisMorley

      Remind us again how Putin and the Kremlin fit in.
      I hate trick test questions.

      • another_steve

        Oil in the machinery.

        Oil in the machinery.

  • ClevelandJim

    God, that dude is creepy lookin! Why are old republicans always so unattractive?

    • MBear

      They havent upgraded their human skins to the latest version

    • Skeptical_Inquirer

      The evil within corrodes the skin without.

      • Snarkaholic

        The Picture of Deplorian Cray.

    • TuuxKabin

      Pre requisite

    • OdieDenCO

      hate made manifest

  • Cuberly Deux

    Sen. Franken: “So Mr. Ross, it appears you neglected to list investments tied to Russia on your disclosure form. What do you say about that?
    Ross: “Senator Franken thank you for that question. Senator, I have so much money tucked away in so many spaces and schemes, do you honestly expect me to know where all of it is? Whatsa big deal here?!?!”

  • Marides48

    Wilbur Ross? Isn’t he a USA Oligarch? He’s due to get a yuuuge tax cut?

  • SoCalGal20

    In addition to Wilbur Ross here are some other highlights from the Paradise Papers.

    https://twitter.com/naomiohreally/status/927237240371150848

    • DaddyRay

      I hope Mueller adds that to his reading list

    • AlternativeQuacks

      It is looking yuuuuge. Besides Wilbur Ross, other Trump associates whose offshore tax evasion has been exposed in the Paradise Papers include Carl Icahn, Sheldon Adelson, Geoffrey Palmer, the Koch brothers, Gary Cohn, Rex Tillerson, Robert Mercer, Steve Wynn, Paul Singer and more.

      • SoCalGal20

        Mnuchin is also in there too, apparently, though I have seen the specific info about him.

  • Blake J Butler

    gillespie probably has small children trapped underneath his car that he’s run over, foaming at the mouth to kick them off of their healthcare, with evil fiorina on the sidelines cheering him on.

    https://twitter.com/RalphNortham/status/927249592156123137

  • JWC

    O/T in addition to all this shit It will be interesting to see what else the new release of the Panama Papers will devulge OH BTW did anyone get a promisary note from Trump to return the airplane should he abdicate in a foreign country?

  • MBear

    Swampeh

    • TuuxKabin

      Runneth . . .

  • SoCalGal20
  • another_steve

    Such a punim on that man. (Yiddish: face)

    Like something out of a Stephen King horror flick.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/49e9c5e4b9a10db232102492cd0cf092febe601055242c5d3d03645562f1257a.jpg

  • SoCalGal20
  • AdamTh

    Corruption on a previously unimaginable scale….. Swamp scale corruption.

  • AlternativeQuacks

    So Wilbur will be next? It might take a while to get to Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III or Jarvanka. Busy, busy, busy…

  • Megrim Twist

    The plot sickens.

  • Lazycrockett

    Breaking

    Church Shooting in Texas.

    • TuuxKabin

      We’ll. Church. Texas.

    • Lazycrockett

      15 injured, multiple dead.

    • Blake J Butler

      It’s too soon to talk about gun violence, although i do wonder if they allowed to vote for guns to be allowed in church.

      If its a white guy, we’ll just hear excuses, it was a black or latino, guy they would be thugs, and if it was someone of eastern descent, they’d be terrorists by default.

  • houstonray

    OT: They are reporting upwards of 20 people “down” in the church shooting. Unclear how many of those are dead/injured.

    • AdamTh

      What? Link?

      • BeaverTales
      • houstonray

        Listening on police/emergency scanner. Now reports coming in via CNN and ABC that at least 15 people have been shot, still keeping number of dead/injured not officially reported.

  • Lazycrockett
    • Lazycrockett
      • Tomcat

        Always too soon to talk about gun violence but never too late to send prayers and thoughts./s I know bad timing on sarcasm, but they bring it on themselves.

        • Lars Littlefield

          Well. on the positive side it’s a nice sunny day.

          • Tomcat

            Good day for a religious experience, ya think.

          • OdieDenCO

            perhaps god let those people die so they wouldn’t become atheist, or alcoholics later in life..to paraphrase pat robertson

          • Lars Littlefield

            “Oh, what a day for an auto de fe.”

    • Boreal

      Why was gawd unable or unwilling to stop this shooting? If only the whole congregation had been armed.

      • JWC

        Its Texas Open carry in church Everyone should have fired back

      • Joe in PA

        Pssst, I think you know why buster. you “practicing” homosexual you!

        • JAKvirginia

          He stopped practising when he got it down pat.

          • Joe in PA

            His boyfriend’s name is Pat? Huh.

          • JAKvirginia

            Dunno. Boyfriend? Chance encounter? (Chance is hot, btw.)

        • Boreal

          I’ve always preferred ‘known homosexual’, thank you.

          • NZArtist

            As in the biblical sense? He came to know his daughters…

          • Boreal

            Well, known by many when I was younger but none of them blood relatives so thus not strictly in the biblical sense.

          • Jean-Marc in Canada

            I’m an “expert homosexual” myself…years and years of “study”

          • Joe in PA

            It sounds so sinister, I like it. 🙂

    • Treant

      Thoughts and prayers.

  • AlternativeQuacks

    OT – Ugh. Another day in America, another mass shooting. Church in Texas now.

  • Boreal
  • JAKvirginia

    Well, shit! Maybe Palin was right. She COULD see Russia from her back porch. They were her neighbors!

  • SoCalGal20

    For a momentary break in the news here’s a nice animal rehab story out of the Bay Area. Make sure to watch the video. It’s less than a minute.

    https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/california/Injured-Bobcat-Treated_-Released-in-East-Bay_Bay-Area-454604683.html?amp=y

    • TuuxKabin

      Thanks sent to friends in that area.

  • TheGrandWazoo2

    Puerto Cyprus RICO

  • canoebum

    Oh goody, goody. I’ve been waiting for the dirt on Ross to start to come out. He sat on the Board of Directors of the Bank of Cyprus, Ground Zero for money laundering of Russian oligarchs. This guy is in Russian money up to his neck. Trump put him at Commerce to keep a lid on any investigations into shadow companies.

  • LesbianTippingHabits


    No surprise here. Plus, Ross is also a parsimonious (cheap) tipper.

  • DaddyRay

    Remember People – Now is not the time to talk about Gun Control

  • Tomcat

    Pray for the living, the dead no longer have any problems.

  • Mikey

    quick! arrest those treasonous leakers!!!

  • TheManicMechanic

    Another day, another Russian tie-in. Call me when heads start to roll.

  • Max_1

    The. Bank. Of. Cyprus.

  • SoCalGal20

    In another good news post (FSM knows we need all we can get) Patton Oswalt and Meredith Salenger got married yesterday and this picture is so sweet!

    https://twitter.com/pattonoswalt/status/927209169588912129

    • Lazycrockett

      They had Aimee Mann and Michael Penn play at the reception.

    • Lars Littlefield

      Good for Oswalt. He and his daughter deserve a bit of love in their lives. They’ve had a rough year or so.

    • zhera

      Love Patton and wish them all the best!

    • shellback

      Who? No, really. I’d have to look it up.

      • clay

        Patton Oswalt is a very smart comedian. He once said that he and his wife had decided to have ten hours of sleep a night instead of children. Things change.

  • AlternativeQuacks
    • clay

      (Dr. Ben Carson?)

  • houstonray

    Man on the phone on MSNBC who is at the scene said “there are a LOT of fatalities”. He is the County Commissioner for the county where the church is located.

    • DaddyRay

      🙁

      • houstonray

        He said he has heard as many as 24. His words ‘there are bodies everywhere’.

        Sigh .

  • SoCalGal20

    Oh, no, nothing to see here! No voter suppression at all!

    https://twitter.com/decaro_nick/status/926910995590553600

    • Lazycrockett

      Still get in line at 6:59 if you have to. They can’t turn you away.

      • SoCalGal20

        I wouldn’t bet on that in GA. “New rule says we have to lock the door promptly at 7pm. No more voting!”

    • zhera

      What is the black line, a river? County border?

      My friends who recently returned from a trip to America say they were shocked at how segregated it was over there. Not a single black person in the community they were staying.

      • ChrisMorley

        Seems to be the county border between Fulton and Cobb counties. See the comments on that tweet.

      • Friday

        Can be, especially in the South. (Some parts of the country simply haven’t attracted much diversity as yet in history, rather than being segregated per se, ) but it really stands out down here.

      • McSwagg

        My Houston neighborhood is quite diverse. It’s very nearly equally split between Hispanics, Asians, Blacks, and Whites. Percentage wise, no group is greater than the the upper 20’s and no group is less than the lower 20’s. However there are many other neighborhoods that are quite segregated.

  • Barry William Teske

    OK.
    Headed back home today.
    My friend is good to go for another 10,000 km.
    Yayyyy!

    BTW:
    To all at JMG.
    Thank you for all that you do.
    The creme always rises to the top.
    Proud to be your northern neighbour.

    • Treant

      Yay!

  • Lazycrockett

    Where is Drumpf’s tweet bout terrorist??

    • Treant

      Dumpy 12 hours off schedule. Dumpy tired. Dumpy sleep. Dumpy do tomorrow.

      • Karl Dubhe

        I’d hate to be doing his laundry after he reads, sorry, hears about today’s stories.

        But I’d love to be a fly on the wall when he does.

    • Lars Littlefield

      Since the tragedy is about 30 miles east of San Antonio I’m sure he’ll finesse the blame on a sleeper cell of Mexican terrorist revolutionaries hidden here illegally for 30 years and and intent upon raping all the good white christian women of the lone star state. Apparently he knows about such things.

  • Treant

    When there’s no more room in Hell, the Trumps* will walk the Earth.

    * And their “friends.”

  • JAKvirginia

    So… now it’s Friday, Saturday, GUNday….

  • Tomcat

    Never knew Russia had such a fan base in America.

  • Jeffrey

    Another mass shooting in Texas, if anyone even still bothers to report this stuff.

    • Tomcat

      Been reported for a while now down post.

      • Tomcat

        Unless this is about a totally different mass shooting other than the Texas church.

        • Max_1

          Which, this is America… So it could be a different one…

          • Tomcat

            REICH!

  • another_steve

    What’s Ben Carson – Secretary of HUD – doin’ these days?

    Anyone?

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/35ad344328faa667c0bc745849c29a5f07456acba15bbdf649c71ac2de2bd3e8.jpg

    • Blake J Butler

      Collecting a paycheck for a job he can’t do and worshipping jesus.

  • Max_1
    • Lars Littlefield

      Vote for Pedro!

  • SoCalGal20

    That’s what I’m talking about! (Also you think Food & Wine would notice that’s wine, not a cocktal but still.)

    https://twitter.com/foodandwine/status/927160412881195009

    • Treant

      AllllRIGHT! Liz is rocked off her ass at 5 PM every day!

      • Lazycrockett

        After dinner she has a glass of champagne.

        I think she has a gin after breakfast, so shes kinda rocked all day.

      • Boreal

        At her age I’d be doing the same. Hell, I’d do it at my age I could.

    • Tomcat

      The secret of a long life, drink and say fuckit, Im rich.

    • another_steve

      In my family line there’s a long-communicated (read: ancient) message of “alcohol in moderation is good for you.” I remember my grandparents (may they rest in peace) saying that.

      The “medicinal shot of schnapps.”

      The key is in the “moderation.”

      Such a difficult thing to achieve and maintain, that.

    • JWC

      Liz’s Mom loved her Gin

      • TuuxKabin

        Yeah, tits n’ feathers sure did.

        • JWC

          Tit’s n feathers?

          • TuuxKabin

            Term I heard in the early mid ’70’s in London when referring to the Queen Mother. The boa’s and all.

          • JWC

            hehehe Ok Thanx

      • Snarkaholic

        And her sister, Margaret, probably drank everything she could get her hands on.

        • JWC

          Drank and smoky and hated her sister and has a gorgeous grand son

    • ChrisMorley

      That was quickly corrected by Food and Wine, on August 03, 2017.

      She’s not a pisshead like her gin soaked mother, the dead Queen Mum.

      ‘The former chef who cooked for England’s royal family is setting the record straight when it comes to Queen Elizabeth II’s drinking habits. A story released on July 31 seemed to reveal that the queen enjoys four cocktails everyday (and at 91, as the longest ruling monarch in British history, no one is suggesting she doesn’t deserve it), but Darren McGrady who gave the original interview tells CNN that his words were misinterpreted. He blames his thick accent and a bad phone connection for all those “silly little pieces in the papers”, that reported the queen has an eyebrow raising affinity for drink.

      “She’d be pickled if she drank that much,” he said. “All I said was she likes a gin and Dubonnet. That’s her favorite drink.” He emphasizes that if she does indulge in her drink of choice, it is certainly not in the morning before lunch.
      “She doesn’t wake up in the morning and have a large gin and tonic,” McGrady said. “She certainly doesn’t drink four glasses a day.”

      http://www.foodandwine.com/news/queen-of-england-might-not-drink-four-cocktails

  • Lazycrockett
  • greenmanTN

    Sure he’s despicable, but I bet his funeral was lovely!

    And just for fun… https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d5220619dbddc5948e038810e5a8b41433a32bbb1c73b4c1f306f712f8a902ca.gif

    Dogs is so stoopid…

    • another_steve

      Dogs react.

      Cats contemplate.

  • Lazycrockett
  • Lazycrockett
    • HZ81

      Send your prayers, everyone. Nothing else. Do nothing else.

      • Halou

        Thoughts and prayers.

    • Tulle Christensen

      So I guess the church goers forgot to bring their guns to church

    • Halou
    • William

      Is it time to talk about gun control?

      • Mikey

        no, no.. it’s still “too soon”®

    • MBear

      Texas, gun nuts, and religious people.

  • Blake J Butler
    • SoCalGal20

      That cover is real. It’s this week’s Newsweek. It’s brilliant.

  • Sam_Handwich

    is the church shooter dead?

    • houstonray

      According to reports, yes. He fled the scene and was pursued and killed by police but that’s all they are saying.

      • Sam_Handwich

        ty. i’ve read /heard conflicting reports

        • houstonray

          Listening to police scanner app on my phone, law enforcement is implying, from what I can tell, that shooter killed but they have not officially confirmed. At one point I heard an officer asking about a second shooter but I think it was only to confirm that they had gotten the only one.

        • Tomcat

          What would America be without conflicting reports?

  • houstonray

    May God be w/ the people of Sutherland Springs, Texas. The FBI & law enforcement are on the scene. I am monitoring the situation from Japan.— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 5, 2017

  • Sam_Handwich
    • Sam_Handwich

      some reports say it was a helicopter

      https://twitter.com/michaelh992/status/927269199004782599

      • Lars Littlefield

        Jared did it.

        • Mikey

          but Hillary is the Killary!!!

    • Adam King

      Princes are just dropping like flies over there.

    • Halou

      Is this at all related to the Saudi prince who refused to bail out Jared Kushner and, right at the time Jared visited Saudi on an undisclosed trip on government time/money, was just arrested for “corruption”?

    • Paula

      How convenient. That’s like Idi Amin’s dissidents dying in car crashes.

    • Jean-Marc in Canada

      “Crashed”

    • William

      A week or two ago, some Saudi price was talking about relaxing the grip of Wahhabism on the Saudi state. I wonder if this was the guy.

      • -M-

        No, that was the crown prince who is apparently consolidating power by removing some uncles and cousins and installing his own loyalists.

  • JWC

    `O/T Not meaning to evoke the wills of any evil spirits nor do I have a sincere concern but has anyone heard of/from/about Kelly Anne

    • Blake J Butler

      Besides the spat she got into with Brian Stelter this morning ? yeah that’s the most recent i’ve heard from the crypt keeper.

    • houstonray

      She was on CNN this morning with Brian Stelter…

      • JWC

        Damn see what I miss when i deletrd CNN

      • Lazycrockett

        Brian’s balls seem to have dropped from what I heard.

      • houstonray

        She was as evil and Hillary obsessed as ever….I could only stomach a few minutes.

      • greenmanTN

        Damn. I was hoping that SNL “It” sketch put her down for good. Except for Fox, of course. It was just too accurate and scathing to be a flesh wound.

    • Lars Littlefield

      Say that three times while swinging a live cat over your head and SWAT teams will show up at your house.

      You have been warned.

  • Slippy_World

    Te Trump Administration theme song
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scTDEj0yYUQ

  • boatboy_srq

    How unsurprising.

    Anyone remember the “Mayberry Machiavellis” comments about the Shrubbery? This maladministration makes even that look skillful.

  • zhera

    I guess we can assume the shooter was a white man, considering the police have his body and there’s no mention of terrorism yet. Such a horrible event, and yet NOTHING WILL EVER CHANGE.

  • -M-

    A lot of the ‘Paradise Papers’ reporting is by the same group who covered the Panama Papers.
    https://www.icij.org/

    And
    Perhaps those of you fluent in German can let us know if there are other details in Süddeutsche Zeitung’s coverage.
    http://www.sueddeutsche.de/

  • Mickey Bitsko
  • Galvestonian

    Typical of anyone appointed by Cheetolini …

  • Michael R

    Rexxon Tillerson was so obviously connected I can’t believe he slipped by ,
    after that it seemed like ” nothing matters anymore ”

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/87c10043b9b4d79336aec0d57dd2d5ed88fcaa994d27878e34cd2520cae6c961.gif

  • Mike

    Not every person has close ties and frequent visits with Russia. Obviously. So that would tell us that all those people on Trump’s campaign team, his transition team, his cabinet, and his White House staff having frequent meetings and significant connections to Russia means they were chosen for those jobs BECAUSE of those Russia connections. Obviously. Did Putin give Trump a list of names? Maybe. After all, having broken in to the country to steal the election for Trump is a debt that must be repaid, over and over no doubt. It’s Putin’s country now, and I for one do not welcome our new vodka-swilling, cabbage scarfing overlords.

  • DesertSun59

    Well, of course he kept this secret. He knows it would have nixed his chance to make tens of millions. Now, he gets to go to jail instead.

    • andrew

      Do you actually believe that old billionaire will spend one day in Jail?

  • andrew

    Didn’t the conservative Republicans of yesteryear use to call the Democrats pinkos, because the Democrats favored restrictions on unbridled capitalism? What term should we now use for Republicans who are in bed with unbridled authoritarian Russian capitalists?

    • rusty57

      Hypocritical whores?

  • leastyebejudged

    Traitors should be executed.

  • Franciscan

    It’s worth noticing that if this administration of plutocrats has unseemly business connections with the Russians, the Bushcrimefamily was making money off the Saudis, the Kuwaitis, the UAE’ers while coincidentally going to war with a Saudi enemy, Saddam Hussein, twice Unfortunately for us, there were no comprehensive investigations, although a few of their activities resulted in inquiries (BCCI, for instance). Leaving aside the question of how 9/11 could have happened when they received dozens of warnings.

  • This didn’t come up in confirmation hearings because?

  • Daveed_WOW

    Don’t forget about Jared:
    http://www.palmerreport.com/politics/indicted-kushner/5919/

    On Sunday evening the “Paradise Papers” revealed that a Putin-connected Russian billionaire floated six figures of money to Jared Kushner in 2014, and the New York Times reported that another Putin-connected Russian billionaire sank significant money into Kushner in 2010. Kushner has lied to investigators about these investments, raising the question of whether they may be illegal in nature. Now one respected political insider believes Kushner will be indicted for money laundering as a result, and that Donald Trump might be next.

    Trump’s campaign chairman Paul Manafort and campaign adviser Rick Gates were both arrested on Monday for money laundering among other charges. The Paradise Papers have also exposed secret financial dealings between the Kremlin and Trump’s Secretary of Commerce Wilbur Ross which could constitute money laundering. Ross was formerly the vice chairman of Bank of Cyprus, which is now cooperating with Trump-Russia investigators on money laundering matters.

  • Richard

    What was donald’s BS talk about draining a swamp all about anyway? A lot of low info voters sure bought into that con, didn’t they?