Trump Lawyer Jay Sekulow Vows To Attempt To Stop Mueller If Probe Turns To Trump’s Personal Finances

Politico reports:

The president’s personal attorney, Jay Sekulow, told POLITICO on Thursday he is primed to lodge formal objections with either Mueller or Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein if the Russia investigation took a wide or unexpected detour into issues like an old Trump real-estate deal.

“We’d view that as outside the scope of legitimate inquiry,” Sekulow said. “We’d raise it.” Robert Ray, who succeeded Starr as the Clinton independent counsel, said Mueller is on solid ground fighting off most jurisdictional challenges because his office is technically a part of the Justice Department. But Ray still expects defense attorneys to give these questions a go.

“Whenever you operate in uncharted legal territory, and this would be an example, you’d expect defense lawyers to push the envelope and edges to find out where the judiciary is coming out,” he said.

Back in July, Trump told the New York Times that it would be a “violation” if Mueller investigated his personal finances.

  • Oscarlating Wildely
    • David Walker

      “Who sez?”

    • That photo is perfect.

      • ben-andy

        Can someone give him orange hair on the top of his head? Priceless.

    • The problem for those of us who like rats is that we feel you are insulting our pets. Here is my pet rat Ethel playing with Fergie and Diana when they were kittens (yes those are their names). aren’t they adorable together?
      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/584b2242bbf7eb1ffc5587e6940344d273d5ad3ca099f921ac46d10e77d39bea.jpg

      • another_steve

        With ya, brother. Yes, they’re all adorable.

        My husband is a behavioral psychologist (married to me…imagine what that’s like for him) and has worked with rats professionally, in a lab.

        He’s very fond of them.

        He tells me they’re very nice to be around.

        • Statistics Palin
        • McSwagg

          I, too, have worked with a lot of rats professionally.

          Oh wait, you meant the animal kind. My bad.

        • MonochromeMouse

          Domesticated rats are a lot like puppies or kittens, but much smarter and more mischievous.

        • stuckinthewoods

          Rats would be easier to be around if there were rat Depends. But they’re nice, smart and with personalities. Frank Lloyd loved Dannon strawberry yogurt, not so much strawberries, or any other flavor, or any other brand. He was a lab experiment flunk out with an electrode pad attached to his skull. Probably wouldn’t have made a good pet for a child.

          • another_steve

            Lol. Love that. 😉

            As a young man, hubby specialized in operant conditioning research. Used Skinner Boxes and the like in his experiments.

            Absolutely amazing, the underlying principles involved there. Our human behaviors are much more subject to the same principles than we sometimes like to admit.

          • stuckinthewoods

            Yes, I must admit I also want Dannon strawberry yogurt whenever my electrode comes on.

          • another_steve

            A good example of operant conditioning at work is my absolute aversion to vodka.

            As a newly-out twink in early-1970s NYC, this older guy at a bar kept sending vodka shots over to me. In an effort to entice me, apparently. And of course, being young and innocent, I downed all of them.

            An hour later I woke up in the back seat of a friend’s car. I’m told three of my friends had to literally carry me off the sidewalk pavement into the car.

            To this day, the very sight of a vodka bottle makes me wretch.

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          • Redpillib

            My zoologist wife likes to claim that, biochemicaly, there is no difference between humans and cockroaches. No we have proof.

          • DonnaLee

            Easiest way to fix that with ones I had was either a bath before an outing….poop everywhere, but then none for hours, or a vigorous run outside right after a cage nap. After 1/2 hour jumping in the grass, they were pretty calm. Little girls loved to run after them, so we could take them to the park, and they’d run themselves silly, and we could just relax!

          • stuckinthewoods

            Thank you for that wonderful mental image. I only knew their existence as bleak and brutal, one of the reasons I gave up experimental biology.

          • DonnaLee

            Ours used to go traveling with us. We could take them about anywhere except where (of course) they sold food. But I have great memories of going to pick up food at a donut shop, and having bikers watch our rats. The women thought they were cute, and the guys got to appreciate them after they saw how good they were. Many women have small, furry pets growing up, so they tend to take to them readily. Men aren’t sure about them, but they don’t want to appear scared in front of the women. I convinced many women to get rats for their little girls instead of hamsters. Those things will bite if you just look at them wrong, and they’re stupid too.

        • KevInPDX

          Actually a hand raised rat makes a good pet. Hamsters are cute but nocturnal biting little bastards.

          • another_steve

            I had a pet hamster as a kid. All that racket at night, though. On the exercise wheel in his enclosure.

            Got on my young gay nerves.

      • Todd20036

        POINTY KITTIES!!

      • Robincho

        And they call ME queer…

      • Redpillib

        Smart and cute? Yeah. Stinky? Yeah. IMHO best lab animal pet is a (guinea) pig.

    • yes b’y

      nobody puts Ben in a corner

      • gothambear

        ha that song went through my head when I saw the pic too – Ben, the two of us…

      • JCF

        Much less Willard!

    • AtticusP

      A rare photo of the long-lost member of the family, Willard Trump.

      They call him “Mitt“.

      • Steverino

        He’s good at ratfucking.

        • McSwagg

          And he will Seamus all in the end.

      • dogdadny

        Willard was the human – Bruce Davidson YUM! Ben was the rat.

    • anne marie in philly

      looks just like the dump!

    • Williwaws

      Muskrats everywhere are insulted

    • Lawrence Esser

      That looks like a muskrat, not really a rat in spite of its name.

  • It’s bound to. Because that’s where the conspiracy started.

    Donald spent most of his adult life on the brink of financial ruin. The Russians saw an opportunity, given he has absolutely no moral or ethical center. So they hooked him. First via loans, then by outright money laundering.

    Money laundering which took the form of shady real estate deals.

    • Exactly, Everyone assumes he does not want to release his taxes because he is too rich. What if they show he is broke or bankrupt?

      • LesbianTippingHabits


        He is broke.

        • RoFaWh

          “Other people’s money”

      • Tulle Christensen

        I am sure he has access to some cash, but I am just as sure he owes more than he gots

        • Buford

          It’s WHO he owes that needs to be kept hush.

      • EdA

        I think that most people probably believe that he doesn’t want to release that he’s likely floating on the edge AND whom he owes money to AND what tax dodges he’s been using. Remember Mitt Romney claiming his wife’s pet “therapy horse” as a medical expense?

      • sfbob

        What they will show is the extent of his financial dealings with Russian “bankers.”

      • RoFaWh

        My guess, for what it’s worth: no “what if” to it.

      • Tom Mears

        They probably show he is hocked to the eyeballs. There is a classic tax dodge where you continually refinance property. You convince some sucker that your $1B building is worth $1.1B, refinance for the new amount and keep the difference tax free.

        • Niblet58

          And when the people who do this are Russians, you get money laundering!

      • Redpillib

        Dependent on fresh transfusions of rubles.

    • Cuberly Deux

      ^^^ This ^^^

      Yep, NYC investors regarded him as a joke so Donnie was left with one option. Attach himself to questionable foreign investors looking to come off as above-board by sponging off of Donnie’s “celebrity”.

      • Not just NYC. No American bank would deal with him. Too many bankruptcies and unpaid bills.

    • McSwagg

      If you haven’t already, you should watch the PBS Frontline documentaries Putin’s Revenge in two parts. It’s pretty chilling.
      http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/film/putins-revenge/
      http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/film/putins-revenge/#video-2

      • Joe in PA

        Thanks for the recco…we DVR that program…I’ll move it higher in the priority.

    • ElenorRigby

      and when he wanted to back out of the whole thing because he got scared, they tempted him with “we’ll let you piss all over the Obama’s bed” and shot video of it… if this was a movie, it would be written off as “too absurd to be real.”

    • JCF

      Eric Trump: ‘We have all the funding we need out of Russia’

      • RoFaWh

        I hope someone gets a video of ET, under oath, being asked to explain what that means, trying to lie convincingly about it, and being screwed over by the judge.

        The word “perjury” is spelled p-e-r-j-u-r-y.

        • lizdhm

          As long as no one gives him a fidgit spinner or Fun Dip.

      • Redpillib

        Why can’t people pay attention and remember?

    • Cattleya1

      I thought I read somewhere that Mueller had several forensic accountants on his team. I am not a big gambler, but I’d bet RICO is brought up in the charges he eventually levels at 45 and his crime family.

    • Redpillib

      Not only is that where conspiracy started, but the proof is right there. He’ll release those returns later-like, when hell freezes over. So someone else might have to do the heavy lifting.

  • Skeptical_Inquirer

    What are they going to do? Threaten him with some goons?

  • David Walker

    OT and just as hilarious…this is the 45 section of last night’s “Have I Got News For You.” As usual, it’s a wonderfully funny half hour. The part concerning the fucking moron continues to 16:20. Enjoy!
    https://youtu.be/IJazAgFjq68?t=9m53s

    • JackFknTwist

      That’s a great show !

  • Do Something Nice

    It should read “the president’s attorney and anti-gay activist. . .”

  • greenmanTN
  • margaretpoa

    Yeah, yeah…go tell it to 128 year old Hitler.

  • Cuberly Deux
    • greenmanTN

      This entire administration lives in the Uncanny Valley.

      • Cuberly Deux

        It does.

        Soulless self interest to the extreme.

    • Bubba in TX

      Or a lawyer on The Simpsons:

      (Sigh. Disqus won’t let me post the picture, because it claims I’m not logged in.)

  • LesbianTippingHabits


    I’m just waiting for Jay Sekulow to turn up on another Donald Trump unsecured creditors list.

  • ben-andy

    Odd, it seems Mueller’s brief was to “follow the investigation wherever it leads” rather than “just see if you can exonerate [now] President Trump of charges of collusion with Russia in the 2016 election”.

    It is a small but mighty difference, methinks.

  • alguien

    i suppose that means they know moron donald’s finances are going to be investigated.

    • margaretpoa

      And know they will be found less than on the up and up.

      • RoFaWh

        The surprising thing is that, apparently, Trump’s income tax returns are honest. Maybe?

  • margaretpoa

    I think it would be a violation for the cops to look for my weed. I wonder if I can get a lawyer to make that argument?

    • Karl Dubhe

      Bet you that if you did, the cops would be looking at your weed. 🙂

  • Let Trump fire Mueller. Go ahead. I would rather have a trashed Trump Presidency with the Republicans in the House and Senate running around with a noose around their necks trying to defend why they are not removing Chittolini from office. We must concentrate on one thing. Taking the House back in 2018 — and winning as many Statehouses and Governorships as possible to stop the Republicans from gerrymandering Congressional dominance in the 2020 reapportionment.

    • margaretpoa

      ^^^This x ∞^^^

    • JackFknTwist

      Excellent strategic thinking !

    • McSwagg

      Tuesday, November 7th, is election day in many places. I’ll be mostly local issues and offices, but that’s where we need to makes our voices heard.

      • Joe in PA

        JUDGES, JUDGES, JUDGES in PA. A VERY big deal.

        • McSwagg

          Absolutely. It really matters here in Harris County (Houston), Texas, death penalty capital of America.

      • Chucktech

        What a pity that the two governors races, NJ and VA, will almost certainly go to the Repubs.

      • Ginger Snap

        Yes local elections in my city Manchester NH.

    • sfbob

      If Trump files Mueller he will have some legal recourse. It won’t be pretty…for Trump.

      In addition it will be EXTREMELY easy to paint Trump’s action against Mueller as tantamount to an admission of guilt.

    • RoFaWh

      Also dog catchers, assistant dog catchers, and all other elective positions great and small.

  • dcurlee

    Let’s just say if everything was done on the up and up there should be no fears. To me he just admitted guilt

  • Elsewhere1010

    Will Sekulow hold his breath until he turns blue?

    • margaretpoa

      Depends on if he finds any selenium in his latte.

      • BJORN RAGNVALDR

        I read it as….oh, never mind, you all know how I read it…..

      • RoFaWh

        Selenium is on the poisonous side, but polonium is much more effective.

        In fact, selenium is an essential nutrient. You need very little of it, but a little (very little) is essential to life.

        • margaretpoa

          Thanks for that! Polonium of course is what I was groping for in the dark. 🙂

  • Dale Snyder

    Sort of like republicans derailing the investigation into Clinton’s blow job for being “out of scope?”

  • coram nobis

    Federal Rules of Evidence are pretty straightforward regarding admissibility at trial.

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/fre

    And this is still in the investigatory stage.

  • Blake J Butler

    Just because, and also because sekulow’s large nose and mole is a distraction to me and i want something beautiful to look at.

    https://media.giphy.com/media/92UiudNEDTcdO/giphy.gif

    • greenmanTN

      Normally I like large noses (you know what they say…) but there are exceptions.

      • Blake J Butler

        Low nazi tolerance then.

        Scratch that non-existent tolerance for nazi’s.

      • Gianni

        Large hands, large feet, large noses? I learn something new everyday. 🙂

        • McSwagg

          Huh????
          I have large hands, small feet, and an average sized nose. What does all that mean?

          • Gianni

            I have average nose and hands, large feet. We have a lot of biological confusion going on! 🙂

          • RoFaWh

            Diagnosis: you are a woman and do not have a penis at all.

            Am I right?

          • McSwagg

            LOL! Wrong!

    • shellback

      Do you have one of him without the dog?

    • BearEyes

      the wig is distracting too

    • Gerry Fisher

      That’s a nose that my husbear would love

  • Slippy_World
    • DrRobY

      OMG, I love Mnuchin’s yeah-whatever-I-have-chest-hair-that-looks-like-the-Canadian-maple-leaf look on his face.

    • greenmanTN

      Fake news! No one but Betsy DeVos’ husband has ever seen her nude and even he used one of those eclipse viewers so he didn’t burn his retinas!

      • another_steve

        The thought of Betsy DeVos nude has just turned me super-duper-extraordinarily-100 percent-enormously gay.

        I mean, really really gay.

        • RoFaWh

          I confess that when I read about the troubles straight men have with women, I’m awfully glad I’m gay.

          • another_steve

            Heterosexuals in relationships have the added burden/challenge of the “male/female dynamic.” All the social and cultural and historical “gender/role” stuff that comes with that.

            Of course, that stuff can surface in same-sex relationships too. My husband is butch and I’m…well…petite. Some would say, feminine.

            He’s an extraordinarily together guy however, and that stuff has never negatively impacted our 43 years together.

          • thatotherjean

            Congrats to you and your husband!

            The mere thought of Betsy DeVos naked is enough to make absolutely certain that I will never become a lesbian. See, she’s useful to both sides–just not to schoolchildren.

          • Ginger Snap

            Yes that stuff does surface in same-sex relationships it us why I’m single. In a few words, I’m a fucking bitch to live with in a relationship.

      • McSwagg

        This is “proof” that she’s involved in a “cover up” of something scandalous.

    • Beagle

      How do they know Dump isn’t wearing the wire?

      • RoFaWh

        They don’t.

        More likely to excite right-wing paranoia: How do they know Obama didn’t have bugs installed throughout the White House in the interval between Trump’s election “victory” and his inauguration?

    • Dazzer

      Just think: if put together on a line, there’d be a whole eight and three-quarter inches of dick in that picture.

    • JCF
  • shellback
  • Silver Badger

    Why not just post a flashing neon sign telling people where not to look. Does he honestly think that Mueller is the only one investigating the trump family?

    • coram nobis

      There’s always Eric Schneiderman at NY state AG.

    • David Walker

      Sorry if it’s racist, but what comes to mind is “Please don’t throw me in that brier patch.”

      • Silver Badger

        Exactly. With friends like those…

      • Miji

        Or just the inverse of that. That rabbit was way smarter than this group of idiots.

      • Librarykid

        You remember the Uncle Remus stories of Joel Chandler Harris, too! I wonder if people still visit the Wren’s Nest.

        • David Walker

          I loved the Disney movie so much that I insisted on getting the book out of the library. To a kid who didn’t know squat about discrimination and racism, they were on the same level as parables.

          • RoFaWh

            Penguin has reprinted at least two of the Uncle Remus titles. I’d call them required reading for anyone truly interested in the American enslavement of African blacks.l

            Read them and learn what the patter-rollers are.

            You will also get to read some stores in Gullah, which turns out to be fairly easy to understand.

          • Librarykid

            Song of the South! I remember it well. In Atlanta’s old airport in the 1950s, there was a restaurant in the terminal. Inside it was decorated with cells from the movie backlit so that they formed a glowing border near the ceiling in the dim room, giving it a magically beautiful atmosphere.
            Zippidy doo dah!

      • RoFaWh

        To which Trump would respond “dindu nuffin!”

        I wonder if Trump realizes how much African blood is in him?

  • Ninja0980
    • coram nobis

      Nothing on Guardian or NYT yet.

    • Silver Badger

      Did someone think he was gay? He has the cheekbones for it.

      • Tulle Christensen

        I bet someone did not like the way he voted on something

        • Silver Badger

          You must admit that the irony would be cool.

    • BOWLING GREEN, Ky. (WBKO) — On Friday, the Kentucky State Police responded to the Rand Paul’s residence in Bowling Green at 3:21 p.m.

      When they arrived, troopers say they discovered that Rene Bousher, 59, of Bowling Green, intentionally assaulted Sen. Rand Paul causing minor injury.

      Bousher was arrested and charged with one count of Assault 4th—minor injury, and taken to the Warren County Detention Center.

      No further information is available for release at this time.

      • Lazycrockett

        Opiate deal gone bad?

      • BobSF_94117

        Boucher (even though other places are also spelling it with an “s”.

        Retracted. A news report showed a picture of a man and said it was the suspect. That person is Boucher. Now reports are saying it was a woman, and there is a female Bousher. Someone’s gonna get sued.

      • Daveed_WOW

        THIS is the real Bowling Green Massacre! Never remember!

      • safari

        He called the police? How socialist.

    • greenmanTN

      The assailant is from Bowling Green. Poor thing probably has PTSD from the massacre.

      • Librarykid

        and he was only charged with 4th degree assault, causing minor injury. Pity.

        • Cattleya1

          I’ll bet he pulled off Rands wig.

    • Blake J Butler

      Who done it, an angry conservative in the kitchen with a knife ?

    • shellback

      I see he was able to keep his wig on.

    • Joe in PA

      The possum fought back?

      • Steverino

        Never mind, he can always replace it with a clump of washed-up seaweed.

        • RoFaWh

          Not in Kentucky. No salt water there.

    • Judas Peckerwood

      Don’t know what the full story is, but I’m getting a domestic violence vibe from the coverage I’ve seen so far.

    • stevenj

      Somebody snatched his rug?

    • Daveed_WOW

      Good.

    • safari

      I’m sure if he had more guns this wouldn’t have happened

  • Sean

    Obstruction is illegal & his finances became the property of the American people the second he took the oath to be the employee of the American people. Now idiot Joe Suckinglow has given Mueller a reason to look into the finances of Putin’s orange faced whore.

  • Andy D

    I realized what’s been bugging me: Sekulow looks like Harold Ramis’ evil brother.

  • SoCalVet

    okay, so now we know where to look, thanks!

  • JWC

    Oh Mr Suc u Now his financial are ancillary but will dragged out after the collusion charges are fulfilled

  • AtticusP

    Gee, it’s almost as though Donald Trump has something to hide…

    • Gianni

      Shocking! Isn’t it? Besides, he promised that if he was elected, he would release his tax returns (or is that forever audit sill going on?). Mueller would just be assisting Donnie in keeping a major one of his campaign promises. He hasn’t made good on repealing the ACA, no movement on ‘THE WALL’, the BIG tax cut isn’t likely to pass the Senate, why not get at least one promise kept, hmmmm?

  • Tulle Christensen

    I vow to attempt to make Christopher Meloni my love slave……

    I expect the same amount of success as Jay Sekulow stopping Mueller

    • RoFaWh

      About this Meloni person: are you taking nipple-licking lessons from our Steve?

  • Professor Barnhardt
  • bobbyjoe

    Mueller is exceedingly careful and diligent.

    Trump is exceedingly thoughtless and sloppy.

    Good God, I just realized we’re watching the final showdown between Goofus and Gallant.

  • Lazycrockett

    Mueller can investigate and then give all the info to the NY AG.

  • popebuck1

    Oh I’m sorry, I totally forgot that part where the subject of the investigation gets to dictate WHAT gets investigated. Out of… what, professional courtesy?

  • Scott MB

    If you have nothing to hide what is the problem? The more he, tRump, resists thing the guiltier he makes himself look. He himself has said he has never had ties to Russia, so his finances would bare that out and prove what he says is true, unless he is lying. He wouldn’t do that would he?

    If Muller finds a crime has been committed he has an obligation to report it. It matters not who it is, even tRump can’t get away with breaking the law. However he feels he has control over every branch of government. He feels that they all work for him, it’s called seperation of powers and checks/balances. He thinks the legislative and judicial branch are the executive branches employees. These people are sworn in to protect and defend the Constitution not the President, just as he was. Clueless bafoon!

    • Gianni

      Trump and lying go together like frosting on cake.

      • RoFaWh

        Trump is incapable of not lying.

        • Gianni

          THAT is the bottom-line truth about Donnie. It’s his core nature and it appears that no matter how much solid evidence that he lied is thrown in his face, he just pretends like he didn’t see or hear any of it and goes on repeating the lies. Mental and psych problems abounding coupled with overwhelming character flaws.

  • 2patricius2

    No, Jay. What’s outside the scope of the legitimate, is Drumpf’s business dealings.

  • shellback
    • Joe in PA

      Nailed it!

  • BeaverTales

    If someone tells the IRS that a probe into anyone else but Trump’s finances is illegal….then prepare to get laughed out of their office.

  • Has anyone else noticed how Trump and his family have managed to come up with the some of the most sleazy lawyers and financial consultants on the face of the planet? And every one of their “foreign policy advisors” are either Russian mafia connected criminals or neo-Nazis? Where do they find these people? How can anyone call themselves a “Trump Republican” with a sane mind? This is the biggest garbage trash bunch of people — they are so corrupt and criminal! You want to shower just looking at them!

    • Ernest Endevor

      They’re like the Gottis.

      • BobSF_94117

        The Gottis had better lawyers.

        • Tulle Christensen

          The Gottis were smarter but then again the slime mold down by the creek is smarter than Trump and his spawn

        • 2guysnamedjoe

          The Gottis knew when to keep their mouths shut.

          • BobSF_94117

            And when to shut other people’s mouths for them. Kinda like Putin…

    • Skeptical_Inquirer

      The lawyers and the consultants need their licenses pulled.

    • yes b’y
      • ChrisMorley

        dealer for his flyaway “hair” pills

      • coram nobis

        Dr. Makeus Feelbad, MD.

      • Gerry Fisher

        This idiot enabler

      • LaChatSayWha

        That’s one guy Donnie probably did pay.

    • McSwagg

      My short list is as follows:
      Pence (x-stain dominionists)
      Bannon (neo-nazis and white nationalists)
      Manafort and Flynn (russians of all types)
      Mercer (the money to pay for it all)

    • Librarykid

      If you look up “sleazy” in the dictionary, Sekulow’s picture precedes the definition but renders it moot.

    • RoFaWh

      His cabinet is the same.

    • LaChatSayWha

      In the late spring/early summer, the WaPo ran a number of articles on Donnie’s desperate search for lawyers to fight the collusion charges. He was well into the D-list of NYC and DC lawyers before he found anyone to desperate enough to risk not being paid for dealing with such a notoriously non-compliant client.

      The greediest, most ethically-challenged law firms were giving him a hard pass & openly explaining that they didn’t want to get stiffed after dealing with his endless lies and bullshit.

      This asshole has enjoyed the most phenomenal luck throughout his life. If the oligarchs and their Rethug lackeys hadn’t shown how willing they are to ignore all laws, I’d think it was time for liddle Dinnie 2Scoops to finally get his comeuppance from the hubris gods.

      But even if the forces of evil conspire to help him escape encarceration I think the truth will be exposed by Muellers team. IQ45’s many, many financial crimes are egregious & he’s a sloppy little bitch who’s never bothered to cover up his crimes. I guess I need to keep putting the choicest offerings on the altar to the hubris gods. Donnie’s got to experience some consequences in this life.

    • thatotherjean

      They don’t trust anybody they don’t know, and they don’t know anybody who isn’t a sleazeball.

  • What the fuck is he hiding?

    • ultragreen

      Really sleazy business deals and financial shenanigans.

  • yes b’y
    • RoFaWh

      Dear Mr. Sekulow:

      You shut the fuck up about Trump’s finances or we’ll start looking into yours too.

      Sincerely, Mueller.

  • Lazycrockett
    • Blake J Butler

      Ah Mook, a reliable democratic voter, and throwing my nerd fetish into overdrive.

    • Joe in PA
      • Beagle

        We did, a few hours ago. Almost, but not quite, busy enough for lines to form.

        • Joe in PA

          I hope that’s a good sign. A former neighbor of ours (Alexandria) posted something similar. Vote!

      • JCF

        So very wrong: Dick Cheney just doesn’t chill me the way he used to (Thx, Drumpf)

        • Todd20036

          Cheney was evil, but intelligent enough not to stick his own neck out.

          SO he got away with it.

          Trump is evil, but also stupid. Which means he’s more likely to do evil, stupid things, like start a nuclear war.

      • Todd20036

        DC here. No elections. But then, no governor, no Congressmen, no senators.

        • Joe in PA

          But you don’t have to pay taxes, right? RIGHT?

          That’s fucked up. Speaking of Eleanor Holmes…how’s she doing?

          [ducking]

  • justme

    The govt has gone after lower life forms than tRump and his “lawyers” in the past..Why would they fear this now??

  • bkmn

    They had no problem when the turned everything Bill Clinton did upside down, but now that it is Trump they have problems. Do none of the Republicans remember how much Nixon’s acts hurt their party?

    • thatotherjean

      Most of them were children or not yet born when Nixon was President. It’s hard to get excited about things that happened before you were born, much less see how those things relate to today’s politics.

  • Bambino
    • Joe in PA

      Huh, ya mean being a “business man” isn’t the best fit to be president? Do tell.

      • RoFaWh

        Trump is no businessman.

        Or if you insist he is, then I’ll say he’s a piss-poor one.

        • bzrd

          because he’ a conman

    • Absolutely. I’m positive he thought the Presidency could be an elected dictatorship if only the guy elected seized the power and just ignored the law.

      We’re fortunate in that the system was set up to resist this impulse.

      We’re unfortunate in that he doesn’t care and will keep trying to be a fascist authoritarian and the GOP appears to be fine with it.

      • Joe in PA

        and the GOP appears to be fine with it….

        I was just talking to a friend about this very thing. I am truly saddened that this is true. It is one thing to “rally behind your leader”…this is so very different. Cowards, all of them.

        • RoFaWh

          “Enemies of American Democracy”

        • bzrd

          is the turtle and his wife on the bingo card?
          “lyan ryan”
          more cons

          • Joe in PA

            Indeed, I can’t remember which scandal it was…but Elaine was in Trump Tower defending the big orange ass the next day. I hope she goes down too!

    • JCF

      “When does the Diktator position become open? That’s the one I REALLY want!”

      https://cmgajcbuzz.files.wordpress.com/2016/03/9fa39fd3fcafa59bb0b38411cfcac794.gif?w=640

  • Daveed_WOW

    Don’t go in my goddam bedroom!…stay out of my motherfucking closet!

    https://youtu.be/Omua-KqqO2w

    • Bryan

      “That ain’t mine!”

  • IAMBOWLINGQUEEN
    • McSwagg

      Well, he DID tell us we’d be sick of all the whining …

    • RoFaWh

      That photo reveals just how blotchy Trump’s complexion is.

      Not a sign of good health.

      • thatotherjean

        Looks like his spray tan was done very unevenly.

        • McSwagg

          The spray can was almost empty and beginning to sputter.

  • Bambino
    • RaygunsGoZap

      He got snatched

    • Tulle Christensen

      I did my part today, I went and did a menacing stare at a house that some RWNJ lived in until it was foreclosed on

      • Joe in PA

        I bet you were fierce!

  • GayOldLady

    I wouldn’t be afraid for Robert Mueller to examine my entire life. Me thinks the Russian money cleanser does protesteth too much

    • Joe in PA

      Well, except maybe for the one incident in Fresno with the stripper.

      Shhhhhh, my lips are sealed. Ahem.

      • Tulle Christensen

        Wait, that was not in 1995 was it?

        • Joe in PA

          Busted! 🙂

      • GayOldLady

        That wasn’t in Fresno. 😉

        • Joe in PA

          LOL! It feels so good to laugh, thank you. 🙂 Hug hug.

          • GayOldLady

            Hug back at Ya!

  • Ben in Oakland

    Sekulow— big time right wing christianista.

    • RoFaWh

      “Enemy of American Democracy”

  • SoCalGal20
    • Joe in PA

      I can’t wait.

    • Natty Enquirer

      Surely Thurman is insider enough to know about the abuse that has been going on for ages. Why the hot anger now?

      • SoCalGal20

        Seriously, “why now?” is your response.

  • BobSF_94117

    Uh… Whitewater…

  • SoCalGal20

    Oh, Jay, shut up. Mueller has even more incentive to look there now.

  • Barry William Teske

    Oh look!
    He thinks he is a lawyer.
    LOL.

  • Nic Peterson

    Violation of what?

    • Natty Enquirer

      Trump’s confidence game rules.

  • anne marie in philly

    SHOW WE THE PEOPLE YOUR TAX RETURNS like you promised, you piece of dogshit!

  • Michael R
  • Joe in PA

    OK dingleberry breath…what do you think those indictments were all about on Monday? Yeah, Mueller will go there. Suck it up.

  • ColdCountry

    Just saw this – hope it’s not a repost. Wouldn’t it be delicious?
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/prosecutor-trump-shut-face-gag-170248540.html

    “Special Counsel Robert Mueller could gag President Donald Trump if he criticizes and attempts to influence the investigation into alleged collusion between the Trump camp and Russia, according to a Watergate prosecutor.”

    • coram nobis

      He’d have to suspend Donald’s Twitter account just for starters.

      • ColdCountry

        Well, we know Dump can’t keep his mouth shut, so just think of the trouble he’d get himself in!

        • Joe in PA

          O/T Hey CC, our friends in Maine report some really bad weather this week (maybe last week) in Blue Hill. A whole bunch of trees down. Hope you are ok.

          • ColdCountry

            I’m fine, thanks for asking!

            We had a huge wind and rain storm. Gusts over 85 in some places, trees uprooted and poles snapped in half. More than 500,000 people without power. I think just about everyone will be back on line this weekend; we’ve had crews from WV, OH, Canada, and lots of places in between helping. I was lucky and only lost power for about 13 hours, and had no tree damage. All happened last Sunday – over and done with in about 12 hours. Or the worst part was. Monday was sunny, but too windy for anyone to go up in a bucket, so I was very surprised my power was back on that evening.

          • Joe in PA

            Our friends are on their way back to southern VA for the winter, they’ll stop here for the night…I’m sure they’ll regale us with stories. Glad you are safe and have power.

          • ColdCountry

            {{{hugs}}}

      • Any halfway competent attorney would’ve advised Donald to shut up about anything and everything concerning the ongoing investigation, including speeches, statements, and social media.

        That he hasn’t says one or both of two things: Either his counsel sucks goat balls or he was told this and replied, “No, I’m not gonna do that, drop me as a client if you can’t handle that.”

        • coram nobis

          Any attorney hearing that would drop him like a brick, if the attorney was halfway competent. For one thing, if you hire an attorney, any communications from then on go through him/her, rules on confidentiality and competence and such.

          This guy probably isn’t up to telling his client to put an estoppel in it.

        • AJayne

          Little donnie probably didn’t say those words, but his actions make them very clear. He knows more than all the experts, dontcha know…

        • -M-

          His competent lawyers had to meet him in pairs because of the glad handing goon’s highly selective memory.

        • RoFaWh

          “Donald” would pay no attention. As is the case.

        • Todd20036

          Trump doesn’t pay attorneys. And they know that.

          So the competent attorneys stay away from Drumpf.

          That leaves the dregs

      • Bambino

        And make him wear shock collars around his neck and both of his wrists.

        • coram nobis

          There’s only so much you can do with a difficult client, as Martin Shkreli’s attorney found out at trial. Even when the defendant wasn’t running his mouth, he still had that smirk. In open court.

        • RoFaWh

          And around his scrotum, assuming he has one.

      • Librarykid

        I think he could also tell him that one more word out of him about the investigation would place him in contempt of the DOJ which is running the investigation and a fine would be levied.

    • billbear1961

      DO IT–SHUT THE BASTARD UP!!

      • Joe in PA

        No no no…I want him to keep talking (tweeting). He saved the guy that deserted his post by tweeting about him. Hopefully he’ll incriminate himself making it easier for Mueller.

        Ya know Bill, I don’t know what to think about the buffoon that got elected…is he stupid? Megalomanic? Extreme narcissist? All of the above? It just boggles the mind. 🙁 And not in a good way.

        • PickyPecker
          • Joe in PA

            I’m trying to imagine Rooster Cogburn saying that. It needs to start out with: I say, I say boy… with so many……..

            🙂

          • Librarykid

            I think that’s Foghorn Leghorn.

          • Joe in PA

            Doh, of course. Leghorn, Cogburn…they all sound the same. 🙂 Thanks for the update.

        • RoFaWh

          It may be impossible for mere mortals to understand
          Trump’s mind. It probably takes carefully educated professionals and even then some end up totally confused.

      • DoctorDJ
  • Dazzer

    Slightly O/T: Papadopoulous – the gift that won’t stop giving.

    Three – pro-Leave Brexit – Foreign Office ministers in Britain have been named in the FBI’s investigation into Russian interference in the US election.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/nov/04/boris-johnson-brexit-russia-trump

    • Any day now we’re going to learn Russia is behind the resurgent Catalan independence movement.

      • SoCalGal20

        I think it was proven they were amplifying and pushing it at the very least.

        • LesbianTippingHabits

          It’s revenge for Kosovo.

          • Dazzer

            More like it’s cover for Crimea.

      • -M-

        I’m sure they’re pushing extremists on both sides.

        • JCF

          This I believe. [In the same way they were pushing simultaneous “Black Lives Matter”/”Blue Lives Matter” events here.]

    • SoCalGal20

      You know Farage is mixed up in this too.

      • Dazzer

        That’s a given. Farage appears to have been a link between Trump, Assange and the Russians.

        He goes incredibly quiet when someone tries to ask him any questions about what his role actually was.

        • JCF

          Lock ‘Em Up!/Send Them to Gaol! 😉

      • Ben in Oakland

        not a nigel. Please not a nigel!

      • UrsusArctos 🐻

        Up to his smirking bad dentistry.

    • coram nobis

      Does this mean Scotland Yard is going to put their oar in? Or is this a job for MI-6?

      • Dazzer

        We’ll see…

        The Electoral Commission is already investigating Mercer and Cambridge Analytica’s involvement, and a couple of Parliamentary committees have started to make initial noises about investigating.

        The one thing you can guarantee is that MI6 will have been keeping an eye on things. Unfortunately, MI6 reports to Boris Johnson – so he’ll attempt to squelch anything they know.

        If the police get involved openly, it’ll depend on how much Teresa May thinks this is going to blow up in her face. And she is in an overall position all round at the moment. So she’ll weigh up everything to the last microgramme – and then probably fuck it up.

    • OdieDenCO

      paging Bond, paging James Bond. please pick up the white courtesy phone.

      • Dazzer

        LOL!

  • billbear1961

    His finances tie Trump DIRECTLY to Russia–they are NOT beyond the legitimate scope of this investigation! This NATION has every RIGHT to know how indebted the TRAITOR is to Putin and his oligarchs, to know what CRIMES the bastard has committed for them and to benefit HIMSELF!!

    And neither YOU nor any of the other fascist minions of HELL will stop us or Our Sovereign Lady, JUSTICE, Empress of the World, Sole and Supreme DEITY, from unearthing the TRUTH!!

    https://i1.wp.com/www.occidentaldissent.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/1060×600-808915ea1d236aeae4a582da683ecb5f.jpg?resize=678%2C381

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9VVxAJJFwg&feature=youtu.be&t=15m15s

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/53e2e92170f15b5fd84775d1e03ac94faf4ac8c9b1bd941f1861f769fadc1da5.jpg

    • coram nobis

      Some theme music: tune is by Stephen Foster, “Hard Times Come Again No More”.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRv501x6WP0

      • Librarykid

        What a majestic setting of an American parlor song. Thank you.

        The lyrics:
        1.
        Let us pause in life’s pleasures and count its many tears,
        While we all sup sorrow with the poor;
        There’s a song that will linger forever in our ears;
        Oh! Hard times come again no more.
        Chorus:
        ‘Tis the song, the sigh of the weary,
        Hard Times, hard times, come again no more.
        Many days you have lingered around my cabin door;
        Oh! Hard times come again no more.

        2.
        While we seek mirth and beauty and music light and gay,
        There are frail forms fainting at the door;
        Though their voices are silent, their pleading looks will say
        Oh! Hard times come again no more.
        Chorus

        3.
        There’s a pale drooping maiden who toils her life away,
        With a worn heart whose better days are o’er:
        Though her voice would be merry, ’tis sighing all the day,
        Oh! Hard times come again no more.
        Chorus

        4.
        ‘Tis a sigh that is wafted across the troubled wave,
        ‘Tis a wail that is heard upon the shore
        ‘Tis a dirge that is murmured around the lowly grave
        Oh! Hard times come again no more.
        Chorus

        • coram nobis

          Yes, and I’ve seen YouTube versions of it by country-western singers, James Taylor, and at least one classical tenor (Thomas Hampson). Here, the Civ VI composer (Geoff Knorr) obviously scored it in full Aaron Copland mode. Civ VI has marvelous music, not the least of which is Christopher Tin’s original theme, “Dream of Flight” (Sogno di Volo).

      • Karl Dubhe

        Since I can’t log into Civ V, after losing a password…

        I’m not going to be buying Civ VI.

        • coram nobis

          It would be the whole Steam account, wouldn’t it? You should be able to recover it.

          • Karl Dubhe

            That account was linked to an email account that I lost. There’s no way for me to recover it, last time I asked.

            It was only 50$, and the franchise is getting long in the tooth.

          • coram nobis

            A lot of ongoing franchises are now on Steam. I also have the Total War series (Shogun 2 et al), Obduction (the latest in the Myst series) and others. The Civ series has had its ups and downs but Civ VI has some strong points, and the musical scoring and graphics are good.

          • Karl Dubhe

            I’m happy not playing it. 🙂 Need to break that addiction.

    • (((GC)))

      We have every right to know about ALL of tRump’s conflicts of interest. The foreign Emoluments Clause is a thing, as is the domestic Emoluments Clause.

      (The Electoral College SHOULD have rejected him over his refusal to divest from his foreign business interests and put them into a true blind trust.)

  • The Sentinel

    I SAID WHAT’S THAT ON YOUR HEAD? https://youtu.be/-7Rte68JgMA

  • Leo
  • Bambino

    Fucking moron get troll wherever he goes.
    https://twitter.com/thehill/status/926902127355727872

    • DaddyRay

      Took me a second to figure out they were referring to Trump claiming Obama was born in Kenya when he was born in Hawaii

      • coram nobis

        Yes, and his home state residents haven’t forgotten that.

        • DonnaLee

          Good for them! Their hometown favorite did himself proud.

    • Leo

      All the signs are amazing. This makes me so happy.

      • Todd20036

        And no misspellings!

    • coram nobis

      Donald’s going to see the Arizona memorial according to the story. He should see the Punchbowl while he’s at it, since that is for past and future casualties.

      • UrsusArctos 🐻

        He will probably ask “Where’s McCain, this is Arizona isn’t it?”
        One of the more interesting moments of my life was going out to the USS Arizona with a Pacific theater Navy veteran and his wife. It was at the height of Big Japanese money in the islands. The memorial was overran with chatty/giggly/noisy Japanese teens who had no idea or care who else was around.I thought the guy was going to explode, knowing him. Nope, he stood there streaming tears. For a guy who never showed emotions he perceived as “weakness” it was kind of amazing to witness how humans do grow up given enough time.

        • RoFaWh

          As I have aged, I have become much more emotionally sensitive. You’d be surprised (or maybe you wouldn’t) at how few Youtube videos I have to watch before I sniffling, but when you’re watching videos of dogs being rescued from the most horrible situations and injured wild animals being nursed back to health before being released back into the wild it doesn’t take much.

          This emotional sensitivity is heightened by the death of my cat two months ago. While I’m not having hysterics over her death, it doesn’t take much to bring up incredibly sad memories of her last two days.

          I don’t know if this heightened sensitivity is due solely to aging, but it might be. You younger whipper-snappers have been warned.

          • DonnaLee

            I feel for you dear, I miss my cat terribly. I went on a walk without him for the first time tonight. He used to love walk time.

        • Matt

          When I was there, it was the same thing with the Japanese tourists being disrespectful and giggling about everything. Made me wonder if they do they when they visit ground zero at Hiroshima? Or if they would be offended by Americans giggling at everything there?

          • Paul

            I suspect they were just ignorant of their own history.

            As a Brit I don’t recall being taught at school about our involvement in slavery for example.

            I doubt your average Japanese person knows about the experiments their scientists were performing on POWs etc.

      • RoFaWh

        He wouldn’t react. His emotions were long ago irreparably damaged by his narcissism.

        • coram nobis

          Too bad. He’s going to throw away a lot of lives because of his lack of empathy.

    • Gerry Fisher

      Perrrrr-fect

    • OdieDenCO

      brilliant!

  • billbear1961

    The Politico article ends thus:

    Richard Ben-Veniste, a former Watergate prosecutor, said that he expected defense lawyers representing indicted defendants to keep on challenging Mueller’s authority and jurisdiction. “I would also expect such challenges to be unavailing,” he said, “as Mueller’s authority to act is on firm legal ground.”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pY4wRVREgB8&feature=youtu.be&t=34m44s

  • lymis

    Since the most likely explanation for Trump being involved with Russia with regards the election is money – via real estate deals – it’d dead center within the scope of the investigation.

  • -M-

    Attempt away, Mr empty barrel. Any favors, obligations or dirt that they could be holding over the Drumpfs or their business is obviously relevant to Mueller’s investigation.

  • safari

    Good luck with that.

  • DaveMiller135

    The guilty dog barks first, and apparently always.

  • Fifth-and-a-Half Element
    • JAKvirginia

      WOW!

  • Henry Auvil

    You have to admit his comb-over is more convincing than Trump’s.

  • Palmer

    A blow job in the Oval Office was fair game, 45’s Russian ties and finances are well within the scope of Federal investigation!

    • Yet Another Alex

      But the first was a Democrat President. According to the Republicans, the rules are different for a Republican (and even more so for 45).

      • Palmer

        And that is the obscenity that has become American politics.

  • Lazycrockett
  • Bambino

    The fucking moron is going to Vietnam. Wouldn’t it be nice someone took him and drop him where John McCain was held as POW for five years and let him have a taste of not liking someone being capture?

    • 2guysnamedjoe

      You just know he’ll threaten to bomb North Vietnam.

      • Bambino

        Not if he is inside the cage. I’m sure John Kelly and Mike Pence are more than happy to assume a permanent role as POTUS.

      • coram nobis

        And it’s one, two, three, what’re we fightin’ for?

  • Tomcat

    Any crime within statute of limitations, that may show up during the investigation is fair game.

    • AJayne

      Even something past a statute of limitations could still be used as evidence, no? Like establishing a pattern of behavior…?

  • Lori

    Draw the X on the map a little bigger there Jay, you wouldn’t want Mueller to miss knowing exactly where to dig.

  • Sam_Handwich
    • ChrisMorley

      In Bowling Green !!! for realz?

      • Bambino

        No massacre of merkins. Sad!

        • UrsusArctos 🐻

          If that isn’t a roadkill merkin on his head, he paid waaaayyyy too much for bad hair plugs.

      • Lazycrockett

        Of course Rand lives in a liberal college town.

    • Dazzer

      Someone threw a copy of Ayn Rand at him and he discovered it wasn’t heavy after all?

      • coram nobis

        Atlas Ducked.

        • Cattleya1

          HairClubHead

    • 2guysnamedjoe

      Who could possibly have anything against that nice Senator Paul?

      • Joe in PA

        Ask the muskrat.

      • Dazzer

        Any members of his family. Anyone who has ever met him. Anyone who has ever seen a photograph of him. Anyone who has heard him on radio. anyone who has seen him on TV.

        A conservative estimate of the suspect pool is currently running at 10 million people.

    • Joe in PA

      First, why are you posting a tweet from Fox News? {{{shudders}}}

      I hope it was his dad: you are NOT a libertarian, you are NOT a libertarian.

    • JAKvirginia

      What was he doing in your home, Paulie? Are you into Daddy trade, now? This will get interesting.

    • Lumpy Gaga

      BOWLING GREEN MASSACRE IS PEOPLE!!!

      • LeeCMH

        Oh no, now I am thinking about tRump, Rand Paul, and Charlton Heston.

        Eeeeeeeccccckkkkk.

    • another_steve

      This is a blessing for him.

      His polling “favorable number” will skyrocket.

    • DoctorDJ

      Hope his hair didn’t get mussed!

  • DaddyRay

    Follow the money (laundering)

  • SoCalGal20

    Getting lunch at a local Mexican restaurant and one of the (I’m sure) Fox watching old folks was wearing a shirt that said “Guns Don’t Kill People Clintons Do”

    https://www.amazon.com/Guns-People-Clintons-Do-T-Shirt/dp/B01MRH81U4

    • Bambino

      Obviously the idiot escaped.

    • Refugay

      Beans don’t make you fart, Mexicans do.

    • another_steve

      I’m surprised (naively, I guess) that Amazon would allow that to be sold on their site. I assume they have something resembling “standards” for what messages/products can be peddled on their site (?)

      I mean, would they allow a company to market a tee shirt that says “the Holocaust is a hoax – never happened” on their site?

      • Karl Dubhe

        Until there was an outcry, I’ll bet yes. Yes they would.

        • another_steve

          I’m thinking you’re right, Karl.

          It’s possible to argue that it’s a free speech issue. As long as the tee doesn’t overtly incite violence (e.g., “Find and kill the Clintons”), it’s protected speech.

          • ChrisMorley

            It’s a practicality issue. It would not be practical for Amazon to vet every potential product.

          • another_steve

            I haven’t the slightest idea of how a product gets on Amazon, but I’d think that someone, in a small room somewhere, has to press a button that means “okay…that merchant can sell that on our site.”

            (Again, I’m probably being naive.)

          • RoFaWh

            Probably not practical given the sheer number of products sold via Amazon.

          • Karl Dubhe

            I’d rather be wrong, but some people are really fucked up.

      • SoCalGal20

        Probably, until somebody complained.

  • SoCalGal20

    The WaPo had to make a correction which itself is quite something. The responses to this tweet are gold!

    https://twitter.com/carolynryan/status/926626375355781121

    • JAKvirginia

      Well, at least they corrected. Would FOX do that?

      • SoCalGal20

        They’re a reputable news publication so making corrections is just part of the job. Fox News OTOH peddle fake news 24/7 so no. They might apologize for reporting actual news every now and then.

      • OdieDenCO

        faux would double down and insist it was the black man.

      • coram nobis

        Fox probably would blame the raid on John Kerry. Or maybe Hillary Clinton.

    • DoctorDJ
  • OdieDenCO

    money laundering is a crime. Mueller has every right to follow the money thru the wash cycle that is donny’s real estate deals

    • Adam King

      He’d be derelict in his duty of he didn’t examine every potential financial connection between Trump and powerful Russians.

    • SoCalGal20

      Felix Sater come on down!

  • Bill Haffey

    Given Jay Sekulow’s track record in court, let him issue a challenge. His last “famous” client, Kim Davis ended up in jail

    • AJayne

      I thought Liberty Council repped Kim Davis, Mat something-or-another…

  • SoCalGal20

    Meanwhile, California’s government meeting with the Pope to discuss climate change while Fembot Gingrich still hasn’t had her credentials accepted. 🙂

    https://twitter.com/kpcc/status/926909471493906432

    • another_steve

      And why should the Vatican refuse to credential a woman who was fucking around with the husband of a dying wife – while his wife was in the process of dying?

      Why, I ask you.

      • Adam King

        Morals and ethics have absolutely nothing to do with the Church.

        • Boreal

          Another steve is an apologist for the RCC. His husband is a big catlick supporter.

          • Adam King

            I know, but I like him anyway.

          • Boreal

            Not me. I have him blocked. He opposes the minimum wage among other regressive stances.

          • Adam King

            I tend not to block people for disagreeable opinions, more for disagreeable behavior/trolling. I’m not always consistent though.

          • Boreal

            Typically I do as well for trolling but in this case I simply tired of hearing libertarian viewpoints and an obsession for the vile Jared Kushner.

        • RoFaWh

          Nor with Trump.

      • ChrisMorley

        The Vatican doesn’t ‘refuse’ credentials.
        It just ignores the ones it doesn’t like, like the French senior diplomat, nominated to the Vatican, who just happened to be gay. The French eventually gave up waiting and chose someone else.

        • JAKvirginia

          Bingo. Ah…. diplomacy.

        • SoCalGal20

          Donny won’t even notice lol.

      • Karl Dubhe

        They cover up for child rapists, you’re not really arguing that they’ve some standards are you?

        • another_steve

          Selective standards.

        • TuuxKabin

          Well, his are so low.

      • Librarykid

        While singing in the choir of the national swine of the tattooed tit and the perforated prick.

    • MBear

      Fuck that, jerry. Arrest the head of the world’s largest pedophilia ring

    • TuuxKabin

      Fembot, ha!

  • SoCalGal20
    • Lazycrockett

      Rounding up state “enemies” and charging them with working with Yemen??

  • JackFknTwist

    And who is this lawyer to tell the Special Counsel what is or isn’t legitimate part of his enquiries ?

    he is a defence lawyer, he can defend in due course……but while the investigation is going on he should STFU.
    Now what dark secrets has this lawyer signalled with his belly aching ?

  • LeeCMH

    Why does Jay Seculow hate America?

  • Boreal

    Mueller already has the shitgibbon’s finances. Let the crying commence.

  • SoCalGal20

    I’m waiting for Felix Sater to pop up in Mueller’s investigation. 🙂

    • Dazzer

      Fingers crossed.

    • Lumpy Gaga

      His lawyer litigates that broken, sharp stemware is not EXPRESSLY forbidden in the courtroom by the Constitution.

  • safari
  • The_Wretched

    I just don’t see the legal strategy here.

    • LeeCMH

      I don’t either. Sounds like an idle threat to me.

      I really doubt Mueller will investigate Trumps businesses and finances, unless his Russia investigation leads him there.

      It is normal prosecution technique to follow the money.

      • Jerry Kott

        Mueller will not let any stone unturned! Following the money will lead to the motive for conspiracy.
        It is important to remember that T45 sees people as disposable and will toss any trash under the bus if it serves him. He has always surrounded himself with half wit grifters and they can be easily disposed of.

        • RoFaWh

          The Big Surprise will be when Trump himself is thrown under the bus.

          He’ll love it up to the second the handcuffs go “click” behind his back. Armies of dancing girls, trained elephants, marching bands, hoopla like you have never seen; then “click”.

      • Adam King

        I think that’s the first place he’s looking since Day One.

    • AJayne

      I’m pretty sure there isn’t one – this is just him doing donnie’s bidding…

    • safari

      Nuh-uh is the technical name for it.

  • EdA

    Sekulow and his fake non-profit pro-bigotry law firm should be at least as concerned that his own finances not be looked at too closely.

    • LeeCMH

      At least people are seeing who this creep really is.

  • safari

    So, there’s a government purge going on in Saudi Arabia.

  • sandollar_man

    Remember the “witch hunter” Ken Starr?

    Gingrich set that special inquisitor investigator Ken Starr to the task of digging up dirt on Bill Clinton.
    He never found conclusive evidence of anything other than a man lying about his sex life.
    Something men have been doing since the beginning of time.

    But man, that “witch hunter” Ken Starr guy, turned over every frickin’ slimy rock he could find.
    Nothing—Nada.
    My God, he was a hard workin’ man. It was YEARS later, and he was still lookin’.

    Mr. Mueller has much more fertile crap to dig up with Trump. Cuz Trump is a pathological liar, USER, backstabber, etc.

    Actually the negative qualities and negative attributes is such a long list, that it would take an astronomer to describe the intergalactic scale of negatives that Trump drags around in his pathetic egotistical baggage.

    • RoFaWh

      Trump is also an exploiter and white slaver. It wouldn’t surprise me in the least to learn that the Trump Organization includes an arm tentacle to kidnap little boys and sell them to the Arabs.

      Say something bad about Trump’s evil, and you are probably right.

  • David

    They all know Dotard is guilty of countless felonies.
    If he was anyone else, he’d be facing about 5,000 years in federal prison.

  • KaBoomBOX

    Basic investigative technique: follow the money.

  • PickyPecker
    • RoFaWh

      Good!

      It has become sadly clear that Trump is even worse than we thought he was; much, much worse; infinitely worse. Definitely no decency, just the constant pursuit of adulation and applause (also small amounts of money). He really is mentally ill; his oh-so-obvious narcissism interferes (quite badly!) with the rest of his life, if there is any “rest”. It may have died a long time ago leaving Trump with a mind composed of narcissistic impulses and nothing else.

    • Chucktech

      We don’t. You just watch. The electorate will fall to the occasion. God how I wish it weren’t so.

      • Todd20036

        And people like Say Something Nice won’t back the democratic candidate because he isn’t “perfect enough”

  • LeeCMH

    The tRump administration seems particularly sensitive to investigation of tRump’s businesses and finances.

    He wouldn’t release his tax returns.

    What is he hiding?

  • jonfromcalifornia

    You just know Trump is hiding something big in his “personal finances”.

    • LeeCMH

      You bet.

    • Gil

      Russian ” bankers ” own him…..

    • RoFaWh

      I’m still faintly surprised no IRS employee smuggled a copy of the Trump returns into the strong light of day.

  • stanhope

    This crooked dick would seem no match for Mueller and team. That face they put on doesn’t fool everybody. The day Mueller unleashed round one so brilliantly timed for trump to jump the gun with tweets, the sewer load in the white house increased 50%. One person who is the happiest girl in the whole usa is one ms sean spicer, the girl who knows how to hide in bushes. She also knew her way to ner knees too.

  • teeveedub

    News Flash, Jay-Jay: There’s a pretty good chance that Mueller is already looking at your shyster’s business dealings.

  • It’s to be expected that they will file legal challenges to see if the courts will rein in the investigation. Any lawyer worth his salt, even a worthless one like Jay Sekulow, would pursue judicial avenues to protect his client.

    One question would be … why is this the line? What is he hiding? What does he think his taxes will reveal? It has to be criminal or incriminating in nature. Mueller won’t reveal them if they aren’t necessary for a criminal case. Simply being embarrassing, like revealing Trump isn’t as rich as he claims, wouldn’t be necessary for a criminal case UNLESS it’s to show how the Russians bought him off and got him to collude in a criminal conspiracy.

    But the real question is not whether Trump’s attorneys will try to curtail the investigation in the courts, which is to be expected, but rather whether Trump will try other means of shutting down the investigation (like firing or defunding Mueller, or even eliminating the Special Prosecutor regulations entirely). The former is to be expected. The latter will explode spectacularly.

    • RoFaWh

      Trump is no more a financial genius than he is a competent businessman, so he is very possibly always on the verge of his next bankruptcy. This worked to Putin’s advantage: Trump turned out to be quite inexpensive to corrupt in Russia’s favor.

    • kareemachan

      I first read that as defrocking Mueller, and was like, “Uh…”

  • PickyPecker

    OT: For music lovers out there, this evenings broadcast of A Prairie Home Companion is featuring the artist ‘Fantastic Negrito’ :

    Taking inspiration from bluesmen like Skip James and Leadbelly, Fantastic Negrito plays what he describes as “blues with a punk attitude.” After surviving a difficult childhood and a near-fatal car crash, his life has taken a turn: In 2015, he topped some 7,000 entries to win National Public Radio’s Tiny Desk Concert Contest. And this year, his album The Last Days of Oakland earned a Grammy for Best Contemporary Blues Album. Band: Uriah Duffy (bass), Tomas “The Chilean” Salcedo (guitar), Charlie Brown (keyboards), and James “StickNasty” Small (drums).

    If you haven’t heard his music, you should give it a listen. A powerful up and coming perfomer.

    • SoCalGal20

      Thanks for the heads up.

    • Johnny Wyeknot

      Too bad. I will be at a Handel opera.

      • McSwagg

        Use this website to find a radio station that is streaming the show at a time convenient to you. Be sure to adjust the time zone first.
        http://www.publicradiofan.com/cgibin/program.pl?programid=436

      • RoFaWh

        And I, being a devotee of recorded music, will be listening to the last two CDs in a 32-CD box set of the complete Rachmaninoff.

    • kareemachan

      In my neck of the woods, it’s also on Sunday morning.

    • TuuxKabin

      Thank you PP. I enjoy NPR’s Tine Desk Concerts, a lot of new talent comes out of there! And being born in Oakland, gee, that’s too bad ’bout it’s last days. I saw it comin’. /s

  • TheManicMechanic

    The thing they are most afraid of. This is where the bodies are buried. Figuratively, and quite possibly literally. The gaudy gold penthouse Trump sits in is nothing but a sewage treatment plant behind the scenes, but smells even worse.

    • Johnny Wyeknot

      Next season’s American Horror Story!

  • Cuberly Deux

    OT: Really recommend watching this, it’s worth your time.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cy1eRCYS08w

    • Lars Littlefield

      “Jewish, a trans woman, and queer . . .” Remind me to never piss her off!

  • andrew

    These Trump supporters should look at how history has treated those who supported Nixon to the bitter end.

  • SoCalGal20
    • McSwagg

      LOL!!!
      Been there in November. (Actually August through May)
      This is so true.

      I saw an old tourism video for Finland called “Where Winter is as Winter Should Be”. It focused mainly on winter activities.

  • AJ Drew
    • Adam King

      It’s a massacre!

      • AJ Drew

        Apparently Kellyanne was having a Miss Cleo moment; it really IS all true!

    • AJ Drew

      and BAM, Joe’s on it with a new thread!

    • Lars Littlefield

      Remember Bowling Green!

      • geoffalnutt

        Never Remember!!

        • Gil

          Never forget to remember !!

    • MBear

      Thoughts and prayers

    • TuuxKabin

      Pawr thang.

  • DesertSun59

    Everyone knows that once Mueller gets hold of 45’s tax return it’s game over for 45.

  • Johnny Wyeknot

    “Vows to attempt.” As would any attorney. I remember when this dipshit showed up on the legal scene years ago. Never could stand him.

    • Gil

      a lightweight.

  • I Lurve You

    Remember when Minnie Pearl said Trump was all about transparency?

    Uh-huh.

    The fact that he doesn’t want them in his finances is exactly why they should be. How could that possibly be off limits given all roads to Russia are paved with rubles?

  • boobert

    Empty threat ! They know that will finish moron.

  • Leo

    Are the Saudi purge and the Yemen strike related? Twitter seems to have its hair on fire at the moment and I’m incredibly confused.

  • Steven B

    “Boys and girls, can you say obstruction? Sure, I knew you could.”
    That is literally THE definition of obstruction.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ac9bcc0de0a7f05f2c629ee0de31f96013c844463dccad71ec57d7e239c6402f.jpg

  • Jean-Marc in Canada

    Gurl better watch herself, sleaze and cheap threats have a tendency to backfire….

    https://twitter.com/sirlthr69/status/926938829742800896

    • M Jackson

      Your hashtags are delicious.

  • RoFaWh

    “Jay Sekulow, Enemy of Democracy”

  • Stephen Elliot Phillips

    Christian lawyer……..

    • JCF

      Emphatically, -ist. He’s been Pat Robertson’s shill for years—decades. [But if Drumpf’s Nazi pals take (greater) power, Jay, don’t delude yourself that your Christianism will save you.]

    • William

      Sekulow is one of those ‘Jews for Jesus’ nuts.

  • ClevelandJim

    Trump said it would be a “violation.” Kinda like the women he violated with all that pussy grabbing? His personal finances are absolutely key to the russia investigation; his personal finances are the reason he fuckin ran for president in the first place.

  • Exatron

    Grab ’em by the finances, Mr. Mueller.

  • juanjo54

    Jay Sekulow was the personal attorney for Pat Roberson at one time. he has been a sleaze ball for a long time

  • John Kusters

    Did he just state an intent to obstruct?

    • lizdhm

      More like his complete and utter ignorance of the law.

    • Gregory In Seattle

      Yes, he did.

  • Charles Nelson

    One prime way to launder illegal money is to filter it through real estate deals. “Bring it On, Bitch!”

  • RemusL

    45 has only himself to blame for Mueller broadening the investigation into his personal finances. Since taking office, he has repeatedly violated the emoluments clause of the U.S. Constitution and has refused to divest or place his business holdings in a blind trust. That’s like giving Special Counsel Mueller a personal invitation to look closely at his personal business dealings.

    • coram nobis

      There’s actually two emoluments clauses (in Art. I and II) and Donald has breached both.

    • sandollar_man

      Trumps ego has been sending up red flags since even before he was elected.
      It’s as if his ego has been taunting us, saying ” ..remove me before I destroy you”.
      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d9f53977f3a6ef40250f634d2a8de0f0a0dceaf73ea60301a3d220d3bfa2c5ee.jpg
      Immediately after he was elected he expressed amazement that he was actually elected.

      His wife warned us with a none-too-subtle facial expression DURING the inauguration day ceremonies:

  • Matt

    In other words, “trump’s personal finances are where you’ll find the MOST evidence.”

  • Girlgoon

    Trumps lawyer is actually Howard Ramus from second city television

    • Megrim Twist

      That’s it! LOL

  • Blackfork

    He DEF needs to take us into those finances if only to make Trump self-destruct.

  • KnownDonorDad

    Sekulow is his personal attorney? Small wonder he’s being so friendly to the religious right. Read up on Sekulow.

  • J Ascher

    As I commented on another article about this topic, if Trump’s previous business deals had Russian connections, then they’re fair game for this investigation!

  • Ann Kah

    What do you mean “if”. Mueller has been combing through Trump’s tax returns for weeks.

  • Stubenville

    Sekulow will find out that Mueller has been there long after he’s gone. Probably right about when the New York Times calls his office for a comment…

  • Richard B

    Cute try, but Jay Sukulow doesn’t get to determine the scope of the Mueller investigation.
    Rob Rosenstein gave Robert Mueller broad discretion to the scope of his investigation.
    This is about the third time Trump lawyers have chafed that Mueller better not look into Trump’s financial dealings. To be so on the offensive, you have to conclude there is something about Trumps business activities that has Trump spooked.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/626029c2a7b7b72fe2ef2d1d62252a8ba6e9c2752b79ea7b1eda8016e050531d.png

  • Marides48

    tRump obviously has something to hide & I want to know what it is.

  • Bob Conti

    Attorney: OBJECTION!
    Judge: Grounds?
    Attorney: IT’S KILLING MY CASE!

    • Daveed_WOW

      Buttons pushed! That’s exactly was a malignant narcissist would say!

  • Cleo

    I don’t remember the Republicans saying anything about “outside scope” when Ken Star was looking into White Water?

  • Nowhereman

    His personal finances ARE the conspiracy. Why didn’t he release his tax returns like every other presidential candidate since Nixon? Why is he so nervous about probes into his business ties? He’s the freaking president of the United States. I remember all the brouhaha over Jimmy Carter’s peanut farm. Trump owns or is involved with business dealings all over the world.
    But no problem, Jay–I’m sure that Mueller already has Trump’s tax returns.

  • Merlin

    I’ve listened to enough of what Jay Sekulow has to say to realize, he’s what we used to call a “Junk Yard Dog” type of liar, much like the lawyer that faded out. Marc Kasowitz, Bark, Bark, Wolf, Wolf, As far as I can tell that is a whiny bark that sounds more like “I’m guilty too, Hey look over here” than anything else.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/fafb44595f5e1ab221786372613d178151aa028ef8d39a3ed262ee3c2d720e80.gif

    Whats a 100 Lawyers at the bottom of the ocean?

    A good start.