Trump: Manhattan Terrorist Deserves Death Penalty

Politico reports:

President Donald Trump said Wednesday that Sayfullo Saipov, the motorist accused of killing eight in New York City on Tuesday in a domestic terror attack, should face the death penalty for his actions.

The comments serve as Trump’s most direct call to action against the attacker since Tuesday’s lethal incident. It is extremely unusual for a sitting president to weigh in on an ongoing criminal trial process, let alone recommend capital punishment, and could potentially complicate efforts to prosecute Saipov.

In 1989, Trump famously paid $85,000 to call for a group of five black and Latino men to face the death penalty for the horrific rape of a woman in New York City, a crime the group, dubbed the “Central Park Five,” were later proved innocent of by DNA evidence. “Bring Back the Death Penalty!” read the ad purchased by the then-real estate mogul.

  • Ernest Endevor

    You know what other crime used to get the death penalty? Treason.

    • Gustav2

      Since we are not officially at war with Russia, the charge of treason would be thrown out of court.

      • GayOldLady

        I think a good case could be made that through the process of undermining our election process for the purpose of installing a President that would favor their interests, that Russia was also undermining our Democracy and both our Federal and State Governments and thereby a State of undeclared war existed.

        • bzrd

          putin said his wars are cyber wars
          the russkis were at war with us during the election and still are

      • j.martindale

        Then I think we can go with the old standard, “Conspiracy against the United States.”

      • Jeffg166

        By Section 110 of Article III. of the Constitution of the United States, it is declared that: “Treason against the United States shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort. … The Congress shall have power to declare the punishment of treason.”

        I think the aid and comfort part would fit.

        • Gustav2

          Without a declaration of war, is Russia legally an enemy?

          • Jeffg166

            Who declares war any longer? If the collusion charge sticks then Russia would be an enemy I would think.

          • RoFaWh

            No “would” to it.

            Russia, sad to say, is an enemy of the USA. Russia’s actions are not those of a friend.

          • juanjo54

            good question. Have any legal precedent to support your position that a declaration of war is required?

      • JCF

        Russia’s at war w/ us.

    • Todd20036

      You know what should be punished by the death penalty? Sarah Huckabees’s fashion choices.

      • JDS

        And her eyebrows.

    • Librarykid

      The death penalty is too quick and it is what this cowardly murderer wants anyway. He deserves to be put in the high tech, high security supermax prison in Colorado, a high tech version of hell, where he does not see anyone all day. He gets to showers and other places by doors that are opened electrically and from his cell, he cannot see the sky. Let him spend the rest of his life there. An imam in Florida told him that he needed more education to interpret correctly what he was reading in the Koran so he is one more stupid fanatic and the world will be better off when he is out of circulation.

      Attached is a link to an article about the place.

      https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2015/04/25/the-alcatraz-rockies/a0BWrZjRpmQatMsfm8FUOL/story.html

      • Ernest Endevor

        Seems harsh even for Trump.

    • TrueWords

      No the President just gave permission for people to INCITE VIOLENCE against others…

      Trump is using this to be TOUGH be in essence has caused MORE problems as always…

      • tomfromthenews

        Agree mostly, but note: it’s INCITE, not INSIGHT.

        • TrueWords

          thank you…for the spelling…I was in a hurry

          • tomfromthenews

            You’re welcome. And thanks for not yelling at me for correcting your innocent mistake.

          • TrueWords

            don’t be petty by bringing up what is a non-issue…

          • tomfromthenews

            Is that addressed to me? Was I being petty? The mistake was no biggie, but as a professional teacher/editor, I usually just remind folks.

          • RoFaWh

            Such misspellings fascinate me; they seem to point to certain aspects of the organization of the brain. It appears that one lobe, let’s call it “the thought-to-word converter”, sends a message to the “look-up-spelling lobe”. The latter is easily confused by homophones because the message is nothing but a short stream of phonemes.

            Entirely speculative, but something that may take minds off the horror in the Oval Office.

            Edit: This raises a delicate issue, to correct misspellings or to remain silent? I only correct if I think the mistake was actually one of misspelling instead of a stupid brain fart.

          • TrueWords

            actually I was trying to run out the door to get to work…however I do love your analysis…my brain knows the difference and settled on what was probably the most familiar and then said, “DONE”…

    • JackFknTwist

      Sure.
      But an accused individual who has been proclaimed guilty by the President of the United States cannot possibly now get a fair trial.
      i believe that all charges against him must now be dropped.

      It’s not a ‘nice’ idea. But Trump/turd must learn respect for the law.
      He must learn of shut his big mouth.
      Saipove must be released.
      Blame Trump/turd.
      But the law and justice must be seen to be done.
      There is no justice where the President has declared that you are guilty.

      Would anyone here fancy their chances before a jury where you have already been declared guilty by the President ?

      • ScubaBearLA

        Considering this president is always wrong about what he proclaims, the jury might even acquit on that ground.

        • JackFknTwist

          Hahaha…………………………….but as a point of principle that every accused must get a fair trial, I just can’t see how this can now be done.

          In the UK and other countries there is a ban on comment until after the trial, so as not to prejudice the jury and the rights of the accused to a fair trial.

    • Lawerence Collins
    • TrueWords

      President Donald Trump’s Twitter declaration that the man charged with killing eight pedestrians and bikers in New York City “SHOULD GET THE DEATH PENALTY” has ignited controversy over whether Trump could have jeopardized the government’s legal case.

      Presidents have uttered vengeful statements in the wake of terror attacks and terrible murders before. Yet, as with all things Trump, his late-night missive went further and could cause greater trouble for prosecutors.

  • Tawreos

    So much for innocent until proven guilty

    • DaddyRay

      I guess we will only need Mueller’s indictments – no need for a trial

      • Tawreos

        That could work.

      • TominDC

        Nah, that only works for people of more… dusky complexion.

        Most of the people Meuller indict will be lily white.

    • GayOldLady

      What stupid ass Trump doesn’t realize is by a POTUS calling for the death penalty it may so prejudice any prospective juror that the death penalty may be taken off the table. He’s so fucking stupid.

      • JackFknTwist

        Oooops 1 i was just making that same point !

      • Karl Dubhe

        That’s not something I’ll object to.

        I think the DP is too merciful, lets the guilty out of jail early.

        • Todd20036

          You have something against DP?
          Are we talking about the same thing?

          • Karl Dubhe

            I have something against executing people.

            If you want to lock someone away forever, then bury the corpse (after they die of natural causes) behind the walls to serve as a real death penalty. I’d be in favour of that.

      • BearEyes

        on the flip side, the death penalty would martyr the asshole (the terrorist one, not the treasonous one)

        • Todd20036

          *shrug*. I’ve done the same to a few. Though I am being more literal than you are.

      • Butch

        Pretty close to what I was going to say, with the addition: Can the defense use these statements to prove that the defendant can’t get a fair trial at all? He may have just thrown out the whole case.

        • GayOldLady

          I’m pretty certain that the defense can use the words of POTUS, the most powerful and influential man on earth, to claim that there’s no venue where the man can get a fair trial.

          • SFBruce

            Bergdahl’s lawyers have already filed a motion to dismiss based on Donnie’s outburst. That motion has been denied, but while the presiding judge has said Donnie’s comments won’t prevent Bergdahl from getting a fair trial, he also said they would be a mitigating factor. But little Donnie just can’t keep his mouth shut.

      • SFBruce

        It’s a classic case of cutting off your nose to spite your face. There’s also this little factoid about the state of New York not having the death penalty. If by some miracle already Donnie knows this, he probably just thinks he can change it by decree.

      • dogdadny

        does hating and disagreeing with just about everything 🍊says and does and tweets mean I can or can’t be a fair juror?

        Also, isn’t this more a hate crime then terrorism?

    • Bluto

      That’s for white folks, you silly.

      • Todd20036

        straight white folks

    • SFBruce

      Such a quaint notion. That was in the old days when things like facts, reason, and the US Constitution held some sway.

    • Annerdr

      It might be worthwhile to keep him alive to interview him and find his connections.

  • gaycuckhubby

    Burying the lede a bit. The disturbing news is that our President called our justice system a joke and a laughingstock. And suggests rushed war tribunals for American citizens. Which even the Republicans are pushing back on

  • It is extremely unusual for a sitting president to weigh in on an
    ongoing criminal trial process, let alone recommend capital punishment,
    and could potentially complicate efforts to prosecute Saipov.

    Great job, genius.

    • Chanel5

      I think Nixon did it during the Manson trial. Charlie held up the paper with the headline “‘Manson guilty!’ Nixon declares.”

      • Tawreos

        If Nixon is Trump’s role model it would explain a lot.

        • John30013

          He does have Nixon fetishist Roger Stone as one of his longtime political mentors….

          • Tawreos

            “Nixon fetishist Roger Stone”

            That phrase has made my interest in sex decrease dramatically. =)

          • RoFaWh

            Just hold on for a sec, dearie, and I’ll put on one of my more fashionable jockstraps in order to re-ignite your libido…

            http://uk.product-images.net/2/973922-400×400.jpg

            Aflame with lust yet?

            [That’s not me; that’s a model, Chris Ogiec.]

        • SFBruce

          Except Nixon sort of tried to act like a president. Little Donnie just can’t be bothered.

        • Chanel5

          I just hope trump doesn’t try to copy Nixon any further. Hang in there, Mueller!

  • gaycuckhubby

    Most of this is behind a pay wall. But looks promising…

    https://twitter.com/NatashaBertrand/status/926043473257615360

    • Leo

      That, along with this, means definitively there’s concrete proof and Trump can no longer say it was a hoax. Big deal and both stories probably won’t get traction for about a week.
      https://twitter.com/AP/status/925954826604896256

      • kanehau

        Trump will read that as “Clinton controlled vast russia linked hacker hit list”.

    • Joe in PA

      Pffft, has the editorial board of the WSJ seen this? Fake news!

    • kaydenpat

      And the shoes keep dropping.

  • GayOldLady

    President Nincompoop: I wonder how long it will take for you to figure out that nothing you say or do will get the spotlight off of YOU. Better hope your charges don’t include “giving aide and comfort to the enemy” if they do you might be looking at the “DEATH PENALTY!”.

    • RoFaWh

      He loves being in the spotlight when he can dictate the context. It must drive him crazy that while his narcissism lobe demands ever more spotlight, his (grossly underdeveloped) common sense lobe says otherwise. Guess which wins?

      The Deplorables are not the only ones acting against their own best interests.

  • Karl Dubhe

    He won’t be as quick to call for a death penalty when it’s his ass that’s being prosecuted.

    I hope I live to see that day.

    • JackFknTwist

      …….for treason.

    • GayOldLady

      I’m hoping the same thing Karl.

  • JackFknTwist

    Yo f uck face.
    The judicial branch of government has nothing to do with you or your psycho opinions. Get someone to read you “The Constitution for Dummies”.

    The indictment, arraignment, trial, are all matters for the courts and the judicial process.
    Just as your trial will be a matter for the courts and the jury in due course.
    However your comments and pre-judgment have now jeopardized a fair trial, consequently the accused should now apply for a dismissal of all charges on the grounds that Trump/turd has made that fair trial impossible.

    To use Hillary’s words: “Back off creep.”

  • Rex

    So, seems electing a big-mouth, opinionated reality TV host with no self control wasn’t such a good idea.

    • Tawreos

      If only more people had realized that a year ago we wouldn’t be in this mess

      • SFBruce

        If only more people realized that now. Where are the congressional Republicans who care more about the country than their party?

        • Tawreos

          They don’t exist anymore.

    • JaniceInToronto

      Who could have known?

      /s

    • iambu

      He just needs a little more time to adjust.

  • tbj5

    I think he sundowned early and forgot he was president again.

  • Kevin Andrews
    • ChrisInKansas

      I’m pretty sure the sales on that book would not have warranted a second issue.

      • Todd20036

        If the profits were used to fund Mueller’s investigation, it would sell

  • Barry William Teske

    So no innocent until proven guilty, no due process, and no homeschooling.
    Good to know.

  • Michael R
  • OdieDenCO

    nothing like prejudicing a case in the morning. one has to wonder is donny calling for death to keep the suspect from being interrogated or just to inflame his base?

    • Todd20036

      Donnie is too stupid for such a complicated plot

  • Barry William Teske

    So today I have started with the full unabridged audiobook “On Truth by H.G Frankfurt” as narrated by George K. Wilson.

    Rocky Horror Picture Show.
    #Still a head of its time.

    PS:I might be slightly mixed up.

  • Michael R
    • The_Wretched

      Scared old white guy who lives in a tower and a bubble.

      • RoFaWh

        He’s too stupid to be scared.

        This will contribute to his downfall.

  • Leo

    OT. WSJ reporters livid at editorial board. 2nd exodus possible. No surprise.
    https://twitter.com/VanityFair/status/925852473469923328

    • SoCalGal20

      It’s sad because there has been some excellent reporting out of the WSJ re the Trump Admin.

      • Leo

        The disconnect is so extreme I need their paper to suffer. The scoops they don’t get someone else will. NYT’s got their rotten apples like Maggie Haberman but otherwise would be a suitable fit for their reporters.

        • Todd20036

          WaPo is decent too. WSJ used to be a real news source

          • Joe in PA

            It’s been a long while since that was true. They’ve come around lately, with the whacky, blatantly criminal Trump activity, but two years ago they were so biased, even the “reporters” (not the just the editorials). I think you’d have to go back 20 years.

          • William

            … then Fox bought the WSJ.

      • ChrisMorley

        WSJ is now owned by the toxic Rupert Murdoch’s News Corp.
        He always makes fine sounding promises about “editorial freedom” but his editors (including the Times of London) take his dictation.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wall_Street_Journal#News_Corporation_and_News_Corp

    • The_Wretched

      The WSJ was not always owned by Murdoch. That makes a difference.

  • Tom Mears

    Keep it up Donny, you are being very helpful. You aren’t pouring gasoline on the fire at all. Just like I’m sure this schmuck’s attorney won’t eventually use everything you tweet or say to argue he can’t get a fair trial.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/02/us/politics/trump-new-york-terror-attack.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage

  • Todd20036

    Hey. Twitler. That’s up to NY to decide, not you.

  • Bluto
    • KnownDonorDad

      I’m pretty easy to please; I’d settle for resignation in disgrace.

      • RoFaWh

        He’s already in disgrace.

        • PeterC

          Just the “resignation” is missing.

  • Gene Perry

    “Should get death penalty” No. … “should seek death penalty”

  • ChrisInKansas

    And white guy killing 7x as many people gets virtually no comment.

    • iambu

      Hey! Didn’t their families get warmest condolences? Does that count for nothing???

  • greenmanTN

    Like Capt Blowhole was gonna let this pass without his nuggets of wisdom? He really might want to rethink undermining due process though. He’s gonna need it some day.

    • RoFaWh

      Won’t surprise me if the truck driver gets off completely on the grounds that the President’s gaseous opinion has so poisoned the pool of potential jurors that no unbiased jury can be formed.

      Trump really doesn’t understand the difference between the Presidency and the CEO of a privately held corporation. He is not some kind of “President of USA Inc. Ltd. Pty. LLC”.

  • Raising_Rlyeh

    His dog-whistle call for mob violence is disgusting.

    • Todd20036

      But SOP for the SOB

  • edrex

    don’t you think the problem with saipov was partly due to nyc’s unwillingness to compromise?

  • Gigi

    NY state doesn’t have the death penalty, so there’s that. Executing the murderer might seem like a good idea to simpletons like Trump but it would only make him a martyr in the eyes of ISIS and its followers. He needs to rot in jail for the rest of his sad and pathetic life, being reminded each and every day that his brief but deadly act of violence was for nothing.

    • JCF

      Well, Massachusetts doesn’t either. But the Feds got a death sentence for (Boston Marathon bomber) Dzhokhar Tsarnaev.

      • Gigi

        Well I never said I was perfect. 😉

  • Scott MB

    So this guy deserves the death penalty and all the rage from tRump. Let’s flash back a couple weeks to a little town called Las Vegas and the man that murdered almost 60 people and put hundreds in the hospital. Where were the screams for action there? Why wasn’t tRump crying about the need for gun control? Why was he saying we need to step back and take a look at things first? Now let’s go back a little longer to Charlotte, where innocent bystanders were run down by a car and on young lady murdered. tRump cries that both sides were to blame and we need to understand that both sides have good people on them. Why he treating the NYC incident any different than the LV or Charlotte incident? Oh yeah that’s right, the LV guy was rich and white. The Charlotte guys were white and his base supporters. The NYC guy seems to have money but , oh yeah he’s brown skin…ewwwwww!

    Looks like a pattern here Mr. “president” and it shows me you are nothing more than a pure RACIST BITCH!

    • Joe in PA

      two words for you: Moose, lamb.

    • William

      ISIS doesn’t have lobbyists in Congress.

    • Salton

      I think you mean Charlottesville, VA and not Charlotte, NC. Otherwise, I completely agree with you.

    • madknits

      The difference is brown and white.

  • Steven B
  • kaydenpat

    Is he intentionally trying to poison the jury pool? Can anyone tell him to shut the hell up?

    • RoFaWh

      I’m sure his lawyers have already tried and failed at that.

      He’s nuts questionably sane.

    • iambu

      I don’t think he does anything intentionally. Pure chaos and reaction.

  • worstcultever

    Still thinking he’s king, still no idea how justice system works, still using cheap demagoguery, squirrels & dog whistles. Yep, it’s a day ending in “y.”

  • Snownova

    While I am in no way defending that terrorist (the brown one, not the orange one), Trump needs to realize that he is in the Executive branch, NOT the Judicial branch, and as such the constitution clearly states that it is none of his fucking business.

    • RoFaWh

      Thinking about Trump: he won’t do what his lawyers advise and I betcha twenty cents that if he had a GP, doctor’s orders would also be ignored.

      Now look: I’m a fatty, though by sheer dumb luck not so much so as a few years ago. I know another fatty when I see one, and Trump is unquestionably a member of the club. So I ask, does he even have a GP? (His pet gastroenterologist (colon doctor) in NYC doesn’t count.) Has he been to Walter Reed yet for the routine physical examination given Presidents?

      My guess (in the total absence of any real evidence) is that the answers to those questions are all “now”. If so, Trump is a walking dead man, I’d say; stroke or major heart attack any day.

  • paulrees100

    And what about Charlottesville terrorist James Alex Fields Jr? Oh…right.

  • SFBruce

    At this point, the last thing we need is confirmation that Donnie is an idiot, but he provides it here anyway. He’s already jeopardized the chances of Bowe Bergdahl getting a fair trial and a fair outcome in the name of justice, but little Donnie is simply incapable of learning that while he may be the most powerful individual on earth, he’s not judge, jury and executioner, even thought that’s clearly what he yearns to be. Sick.

  • Beto

    Dude, you already gave the terrorist lawyer a cause for a no-fair trial. A President (any sitting State employee in fact) can’t have a comment on any judicial proceeding to avoid interference. You already did that.

    • boatboy_srq

      And yet when the court comes to the same conclusion, the Reichwing will wail about Activist Judges© and not He Who Can’t Keep His Yap Shut.

    • MaryJOGrady

      Nixon almost got Charles Manson and his accomplices a mistrial by proclaiming his guilt.

  • thatotherjean

    Oh, shut up, Donnie. This is not your call. There’s a whole ‘nother branch of government for that.

  • Jean-Marc in Canada
  • seant426

    Since Trumpy is such a profiteer, I’m surprised he doesn’t advocate this terrorist turd rotting away in one of our privately-run for-profit prisons.

  • BartmanLA

    He’s so desperate he’s grasping at virtually anything he can to keep himself in the spotlight as if he’s actually doing something. The attacker wasn’t on a Travel Ban list, wasn’t a illegal immigrant, was not on any watch list or suspected of being any national security risk. Basically not the usual person Trump likes to point at and scream about “illegal terrorists” and use as a scapegoat for reducing civil rights of even more people in this country. He has to stir up hatred anyway he can.

  • sadoldguy

    I bet if this guy (Sayfullo Saipov) was white and a christan, the rights talking points would be more in the direction of

    Why are we wasting time talking about redundant and superfluous terrorism charges, isn’t driving on the bike path already illegal?

    • Halou

      “Now is not the time to talk about road safety.”

    • boatboy_srq

      Technically, Uzbeks are white. So we’re halfway there.

  • KnownDonorDad

    So what does he think about Stephen Paddock? How much more murder can you get away with if you’re a white dude without getting a presidential call for the death penalty?

    • Bad Tom

      Well. Stephen Paddock got the death penalty already.
      Sure, it was self administered. But Paddock is still dead.

  • Halou

    So, the person who sent 4 US marines to die in Niger on an unspecified mission… Can we sentence that guy to death too?

  • Snarky

    His attorney must be happy that Trump is poisoning the well for seating a jury.

  • JWC

    Here is a mouth piece on the NYC tragedy and yet not a word abour the 4 lost in Niger

  • boatboy_srq

    Lord Dampnut the Private Citizen strikes again.

  • MonochromeMouse

    So trump just guaranteed this guy will walk with a mistrial. Dumbass.

  • juanjo54

    Nothing like tainting the jury pool. Give the defense attorneys the opportunity to get repeated appeals.

  • Jim Maloney

    “statistically”….. He doesn’t talk like that, someone else wrote it for him, Dan Scavino.

    • Gianni

      Like that matters when we hear the words come from his big, loud, totally uncontrolled mouth!

  • josephsinger

    Donnie is the stupidest president I’ve experienced in my lifetime. A death sentence will automatically trigger an appeal. The appeal could go on for years and cost millions of dollars. A death sentence would make him a martyr. And notice how Donnie didn’t say shit about the 500 people who were either killed or injured in the Las Vegas shooting because the shooter was white. Trump DGAS about white terrorists. Donnie doesn’t want to limit travel of people from the Russian republics only from the Muslim countries.

    • Gianni

      Donnie will hold the historical record for being the stupidest, most ridiculous, underhanded, loud-mouthed, egotistical, least caring moron of a US President for likely as long as the USA exists in this Democratic Republic form of government. He has earned and claimed his place in the US History books and the chapter won’t be in the least complimentary.

  • Friday’s_cat

    The Great White Dope just gave the suspect a “Get Out of Jail” card as Trump just poisoned anty prospective jury pool.

    • Gianni

      Great White Dope – I’m going to hang onto that. 🙂

  • JackFknTwist

    Wasn’t it the Red Queen who said:'”Verdict first, evidence later !”

  • Gianni

    If Donnie ever has some sort of seizure and starts blathering incomprehensible nonsense, is anyone going to notice?