Coalition Of “Never Trump” Conservatives Call On GOP To Protect Robert Mueller From Any Actions By Trump

The Washington Post reports:

In February, with the shock of President Trump’s victory still fresh, a small group of libertarians and conservatives began meeting every two weeks to discuss their next moves. Evan McMullin, the “Never Trump” presidential candidate, was in the room.

So was Bill Kristol, co-founder of the Weekly Standard, who had drafted McMullin to run. The meeting grew to include conservative columnists like Mona Charen, Max Boot and John Ziegler, and former U.S. House members such as South Carolina’s Bob Inglis and Florida’s David Jolly.

On Wednesday, the Meeting of the Concerned will release its first public statement, asking congressional Republicans to preempt any presidential action against Robert S. Mueller III, the special counsel investigating Russian meddling in the 2016 election.

This is their first statement in full:

We are a group of citizens united by our deep concern over threats to the integrity of American democracy and the rule of law. With the indictments announced on Monday, the investigation by special counsel Robert Mueller into Russian interference with the 2016 election is now entering a new and critical phase.

At the same time, a growing chorus of Republican and conservative voices has started calling for Mueller’s resignation on trumped-up grounds, a move that may be calculated to help justify dismissal of the special counsel and pardons for his targets.

In view of these events, we want to come forward and express our strong support for allowing the Mueller investigation to proceed without interference or obstruction. We would regard dismissal of the special counsel, or pardons issued preemptively to anyone targeted by his investigation, as a grave abuse of power that justifies initiation of impeachment proceedings.

We hereby call on House Speaker Ryan and Senate Majority Leader McConnell to make clear, both publicly and privately, that they support the Mueller investigation and regard any interference with that investigation, including dismissal of the special counsel or preemptive pardons of investigation targets, as completely unacceptable.

We further urge all Republican members of Congress to issue public statements on these issues as well. It is morally imperative that the Republican Party and the conservative movement stand as bulwarks of the rule of law, not enablers of its erosion and violation. Now is the time for choosing.

  • pch1013

    That’s cute. They think the congressional GOP will suddenly grow a spine and acquire some scruples.

    • Both can be found in their wallets.

  • bkmn

    No sense wasting time talking to Congress. They need to get a billionaire to come to their aid.

  • Tawreos

    They should be appealing to the GOP donors if they want to get some action. The guys that control the money will have the final say in whether Trump can fire Mueller or not.

  • Lizard

    That’s cute. Let me know when Trump’s supporters begin turning on him rather than those who have been against him all along and are only now speaking up.

    • james1200

      Listen, if the Dems were smart, they’d figure out a way to completely split off that 20% of Republicans that can’t stand the orange fucker. If we get them to go third party or stay home, we win the next two elections in a landslide.

      • The_Wretched

        the dems keep trying a failing to influence that 20%. In the mean time, they gave up key positions that keep their base (like being pro-choice).

        • gaycuckhubby

          Wait Democrats are not pro-choice? That’s like the ultimate litmus test. Other than the senator out of West Virginia what Democrat doesn’t support abortion rights.

          • FAEN

            I had this debate with someone the other day-apparently we should let Dems be ‘pro life’ in states where that’s popular. My response was “If I were a republican why would I vote for GOP lite when I can just vote for the GOP?”

            Makes as much sense as smacking yourself in the head with a steel beam.

          • Strepsi

            Yes FAEN! This “compromising with the indefensible” has got to stop! Even Obama did it, and he had more strength of character than most Democrats. I am…. not optimistic.

          • Paul

            Would you rather have a Democrat who votes for a 20-week abortion ban but would vote to pass a robust public option, or would you rather have a Republican who would vote for a personhood bill AND against any left-leaning healthcare proposal?

            Yeah, that’s what I thought.

          • FAEN

            I’d rather Dems don’t compromise on women and LGBT rights. Republican lite is never going to win us anything.

          • Gretchen

            I have been calling Tennessee Democrats “Republican-lite” for years. No one bothers to go vote for Dem candidates because they aren’t substantially different from Republicans here.

          • The_Wretched

            Democrats for life is getting air time from Perez -https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/06/democrats-pro-life-pro-choice-dnc-chair-tom-perez/531981/.

            See also:
            https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/04/pro-life-democrats-abortion-sanders-perez-party/524394/

            It’s not just the one issue though. it’s every issue.

        • Gerry Fisher

          We haven’t had strong common ground with that 20%…until Trump.

      • They’ve been trying that for a decade now. The make all kinds of concessions to them and then they still don’t vote with them. It’s a good idea but we’re talking about Republicans here. They’d rather burn the country down than side with Democrats.

      • Gerry Fisher

        Yep. Coalition building, even if it’s a temporary or situational coalition. This is smart politics.

    • FAEN
    • Bad Tom

      The change of minds is vitally important. It is literally the only way Trump will be removed.

      Give up resentment. It holds us back.

      • Lizard

        Let me know if they change any minds. I don’t think they will.

  • Leo

    The only moderates to be swayed by these milquetoast fools will be primaried out by Bannon. Forget going on the record that they’re communicating at all. How strong! Spare me.

    • William

      I’m hoping Mueller gets enough on the Mercers so Bannon can live out his time in Supermax.

    • Gerry Fisher

      What they need to do is to reach Independents and people who “just vote Republican” automatically. “The party has changed. Withdraw your support.”

  • Tomcat

    So what percent are theses guys? Have to be more than 33% to matter to GOP.

  • Michael R

    I read that if Trump fires Mueller he can sue to get his job back ,
    so it wouldn’t be the end of it , plus it’s obviously more obstruction .

    • Tomcat

      But according to GOP it is Democrats that are the obstructionist.
      Trying to stop trump from raping America.

      • Michael R

        Trying to stop Russia from destroying our country
        using Trump as their weapon
        IS COLLUDING WITH RUSSIA !!!
        ( or something )

  • Pollos Hermanos

    The same assholes who flirted with racism and extremism for 50 years for cheap votes NOW are concerned?

    That’s adorable.

  • Ninja0980

    I’d like to see these guys acknowledge the Republican Revolution and saying no to anything and everything Obama proposed helped lay the groundwork for Trump before I listen to anything else they have to say.

    • gaycuckhubby

      McMullin has echoed what you just wrote. The others haven’t

  • Do Something Nice

    Most of these people are pigs so please don’t ‘celebrate’ that they are doing this. And I’m not so sure that there isn’t an underlying political strategy motivating them.

    • Gustav2

      They are trying to save the Republican Party.

      • Leo

        They’re trying to pretend their party is just going through a short nationalist phase that is really flailing long-term nativism.

        • Gustav2

          …and trying to pretend it wasn’t there the whole time.

      • Gerry Fisher

        Now *that’s* something that would make me yawn. They’re on their own for that effort.

    • Lizard

      Yup, it’s called “We’re reading the signs and we’re never getting reelected if we keep our mouths shut.”

    • Gerry Fisher

      It’s not about celebration. It’s about cobbling together enough of a coalition to do damage to the Trump administration. All hands on deck.

  • skyweaver

    Of all the things in this, the phrase, “Meeting of the Concerned” made me laugh the hardest. So pretentious. So pompous. Forgetting about how their blowhard opinions helped create a world where Trump actually flourishes.

    • Gustav2

      They stole Penny Nance’s “concern.”

      Concerned Women for America

    • Ragnar Lothbrok

      Coalition of Cuckolds was already taken.

      • gaycuckhubby

        Hell yeah it is!
        😉

        Motherfuckers trying to co-opt our fetish.

    • Treant

      “August Association of the Powerfully Concerned” would be slightly worse.

      Slightly.

    • CottonBlimp

      The name Bill Kristol jumped out at me. Fucker spends years calling everyone left of fascism a traitor and now he gets to go on MSNBC to complain about how the Republican party is out of control now that they hate him too.

      • gaycuckhubby

        Yep. Cant stand him

        • I can’t stand him either, but it’s useful to have Trump criticisms coming from Republicans like Kristol and Frum and Flake and not just from liberals.

          • gaycuckhubby

            Agreed

      • olandp

        Steven Colbert’s skewering of Bill Kristol was a thing of beauty…
        http://www.cc.com/video-clips/u54lrz/the-colbert-report-bill-kristol

        Seven minutes and thirty three seconds of absolute pleasure!

      • Skeptical_Inquirer

        Yeah, they always hate it when they try to make something happen but when it does, they don’t lead it.

    • Gerry Fisher

      >So pretentious. So pompous.

      Bill Kristol is involved. He just can’t help himself.

  • Tomcat

    I will not turn help away, from either side.

    • Ragnar Lothbrok

      Just like sex, could be awesome. Ya just never know…

  • Treant

    I’ll keep my mouth shut. If it helps a little, great. If it influences a few Independent voters, great.

    But I’m also not going to support any endeavor that calls itself “Republican” in this climate. They can have fun doing whatever they want about this without my assistance or interference.

  • Ninja0980

    O/T
    https://twitter.com/guypben
    And when these judges he is lauding help lay the groundwork for reversing marriage equality and make it so even rich white gays like him and his boyfriend will be discriminated again, will he celebrate them getting on the bench then?

    • Treant

      Yes, as long as Congress doesn’t institute a Gay Tax.

    • DreadPikathulhu

      If Harry Reid hadn’t done away with judicial filibuster, you can bet the GOP would have done it as soon as they could. The Republicans were actively engaged in subverting a democratically elected, legitimate administration.

      • Ninja0980

        Yup, and Trump will have more then 300 judicial vacancies to fill.

        • canoebum

          Fortunately, the White House is so dysfunctional and distracted by further pending indictments, it is unlikely they will get to fill many of those vacancies.

          • Danieruw

            They’ve filled too many already, though. 🙁

          • They’ve filled a LOT of them already. This has not gotten much news coverage, except from my local newspaper (because some of the most extreme far right judges happen to be from our area). This is very very bad. it’s not just SCOTUS that matters. Most cases never get that far.

    • Paul

      Think he’s deleted his account.

  • Sam_Handwich
    • Treant

      I’m not familiar. How much of a hack and a sell-out is he?

      (Note I didn’t have to ask IF he was a hack or a sell-out).

      • Gustav2

        From what I read about this earlier, he will continue current policies.

        • Treant

          So not much of one, but probably unreliable in the crunch when Trump crashes the economy next year.

      • Tomcat

        Jerome
        Hayden “Jay” Powell is a member of the Federal Reserve Board of
        Governors, the governing board of the Federal Reserve System. He has served at the position since May 25, 2012, after he was nominated by President Barack Obama. Wikipedia
        Born: February 1953, Washington, D.C.
        Education: Georgetown Law (1979), Princeton University
        Political party: Republican Party

    • Tomcat

      We could do much worst than him.

      • AlternativeQuacks

        I really thought Trump was going to nominate Kid Rock or Sherriff Lots-of-Flair.

    • Henry Auvil

      Everyone is SO excited about this. I just went to WalMart and no one was talking about anything else.

      • Treant

        In slightly more exciting news, I ordered lavender oil to replace the jar I expended this year. This time, I got 8 ounces instead of 4.

        I know, do try to hold back.

        • kanehau

          OMG!!!!1!!!1!!

          • Treant

            Calm! Now, calm down! I know it’s a thrill to hear, but let’s just wait and see to make sure it’s pure 40/42 lavender!

        • Gustav2

          In other bad news, I really need to hide the Halloween little Almond Joys from myself before I eat the whole bag.

          • Treant

            You just like them because they have big nuts.

          • I adore those! And I do so hate having a sack of fun size candy, they evaporate so quickly. Must be elves or gnomes or pantry sprites that gobble them up.

          • Danieruw

            Please…fun size candy should be the size of my arm!

          • Really? I adore unwrapping each wee morsel, and then popping them into my mouth. The crinkle of the wrapper, the poof of pure chocolate delight, ahhh. Shoot, now I need to run down to the conbini and get me some candy!!!

      • FancyThat

        Well, it seemed to me that all the talk at Walmart was about where the peanuts and beer nuts were for Game 7. And one guy talkin about fixin’ to get his bang on, whatever that is. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a553c46a88c9bc8dcdb4e5e9b201ba2c0375ae6c45c69e4de56e4026c789b054.jpg

        • Treant

          Perhaps his hand was cold? Or had lost its scent?

          • Gianni

            😀 My nose just had a seizure.

        • Daveed_WOW

          He was looking for his pen

        • Gretchen

          The elastic snapped in her underwear. He was just holding it up for her. Twenty years ago I completely lost a pair of panty hose in the produce department at Kroger. I stepped out of them, and my husband just scooped them up and shoved them in his coat pocket without either of us missing a step. These things are in the wedding vows of straight people…I swear.

    • JCF

      Janet Yellin wasn’t grabable enough…

  • Ben in Oakland

    Translation:
    We don’t own any of this shitshow.

    • Gustav2

      We are trying to not own any of this shitshow.

      • Ben in Oakland

        We bought and paid for the shitshow, but despite our delusions, it turned out actually to be a shitshow.

  • Duh-David

    Small-town minister tells Christians to stop praying.

  • Henry Auvil

    Call me shallow (you won’t be the first), but Mueller’s old man hair is a lot more dignified that that peroxided, blow-dried thing on trump’s head.

    • FAEN

      Pond scum is more dignified.

      • Adam King

        And more colorful.

        • Ben in Oakland

          And covers something useful.

          • prixator

            And is something useful.

    • TominDC

      He’s got a standard politician cut, hasn’t he?

      The parting is perhaps a little low, but otherwise I see hair like that everywhere in DC.

    • Bad Tom

      It’s what’s underneath the hair that will be the downfall of Trump!

  • gaycuckhubby

    We could do a lot worse than McMullin.
    Hell, we ARE doing a lot worse than him.

    • Sam_Handwich

      save us Eggan McMuffin!

      • gaycuckhubby

        Help!

        • Treant

          I’m sure he’ll ketchup to us.

          (My father always put ketchup on eggs. I think it’s gross).

          • gaycuckhubby

            Ewww

          • FAEN

            I did that when I was 3 and loved it so I totally get ketchup on eggs. Now it’s Sriracha-YUM!

          • Treant

            I use a dash of pepper and a ton of garlic when cooking them.

          • FAEN

            Mmmm-scrambled?

          • Treant

            Or sunny side up.

            I’m also partial to parsley on my eggs for a sharper, cleaner flavor mixed in there. Fresh is best, but dried will do.

          • gaycuckhubby

            Mmm… poached eggs on buttermilk biscuits with ham and Hollandaise

          • Ham Biscuits!!!

          • gaycuckhubby

            I may have a touch of southern in me 🙂

          • FAEN

            I’m not sure how to take that 😉

          • Rick Jackson

            I can love red eyed gravy with country ham biscuits. Add eggs, grits and and sorghum molasses, and I’m in a special kind of pig heaven.

          • gaycuckhubby

            Talking my language! Oink

          • FAEN

            Except I’d change the ham to a crab cake.

          • FAEN

            That sounds delicious. I shall try it.

            I’m picky when it comes to eggs. I find too many cook them on too high a heat and they just get rubbery.

          • Treant

            I tend to do it the other way; low heat for a loooong time to get everything solid. I’m not happy unless the top of the yolk is hot.

          • FAEN

            You and I like eggs the same way. When I make sunny side up eggs I have them on low heat with butter, throw a bit of water on the yolk-a really tiny amount -and then cover it for a few minutes. Comes out beautifully every time.

          • Treant

            We do seem similar! I like my men hairy and sunny side down. You?

          • FAEN

            I’m all about hairy men, sunny side up or down….I’m happy either way.

          • FAEN

            Do you have a beard asks resident bears whore lol.

          • Treant

            I don’t, my husband does. 🙂

          • FAEN

            Lucky you😉

          • Gretchen

            I put Cholula in my scrambled eggs before I cook them with unhealthy amounts of butter.

            I’m sick tonight and wasn’t planning to cook. Now eggs sound really good to my sore throat.

          • FAEN

            Get better and enjoy the eggs. I shall be partaking of some later.

      • FAEN

        You’re my only hope!

  • Cuberly Deux

    I’m curious how much of this is anti-trump and how much is anti-creeping influence of the evangelicals. Quite a few of those want out of anti-lgbt & anti-abortion fervor & are very vocal re; racism as being synonymous with the GOP.

    What the GOP has become is rather difficult to spin with a series of dog whistles. It just in your face white nationalism, autocratic/theocracy.

    • gaycuckhubby

      Spot on

    • Skeptical_Inquirer

      The problem is they should have confronted this years ago instead of this last minute “Wow, we’re now considered secret KKK members instead of respectable members of society by more than half of society!” They have to do more than talk. They actually have to vote Dem rather than someone like Roy Moore and willing to risk their neck a bit if they don’t want to get lumped in. Evan McMullin is someone I give credit to for actually being consistent in his anti-Trumpness but the rest of them have been a major fail.

  • The_Wretched

    the ‘never trumpers’ might as well be paid for by the russian for all the difference they don’t (or do) make.

    • gaycuckhubby

      If we ever get close to impeachment territory we will require a republican house and Senate to make it happen. Arguably these voices will become more important than the most liberal Democrat.

      • The_Wretched

        Probably senate, house is looking pretty good for a flip.

        • gaycuckhubby

          Maybe, if we’re lucky. But certainly not with the margins required for impeachment

          • Charlie 2001

            Well, I think the House has to only have a majority to vote for impeachment. (Guess I am being lazy not to check). The Senate needs a super majority to sustain the charge and remove Trump from office. Hopefully if the House is near voting for impeachment Trump wll resign like Nixon did.

          • gaycuckhubby

            Lol. Dont rely on Trump doing anything good for this nation. He will be a bitter clinger-on

  • gaycuckhubby

    Wow. Republican Chairman of Homeland Security taking Trump to task about his comments on the Justice system

  • margaretpoa

    When and only when the “never Trump” conservatives acknowledge their own complicity in intentionally building a conservative base that would nominate and elect such a vile monster, I will take notice and give them a modicum of respect. These people have spent the last year and a half blaming everybody but themselves for Trump’s rise to power and the fact is that whatever happens with Trump, if they keep doing the same thing they’ve been doing for the last 40 years or so, the conservative base is going to keep electing hateful, destructive bigots like Donald Trump, Roy Moore and Tom Tancredo. If you don’t like Trump, then I suggest you accept your own responsibility or be doomed to repeat this fiasco over and over until there’s nothing left of this country but a shell populated by ugly right wing zombies.

  • greenmanTN

    They are very concernstipated!

    OT but I’ve noticed an uptick in concern trolling on the web since Friday, trying to distract or derail from Trump/Russia.

  • Not gonna happen. I follow a few of the non-Trump conservatives on social media. (Who thought I’d ever be following Bill Kristol!) Unfortunately almost none of them are office holders. The base still loves and supports Trump and polling shows that they don’t even care of the Russian collusion accusations are true. They don’t care and are not going to turn on Trump. Anything critical of DT is FAKE NEWS! And the GOP officeholders are terrified of their own base. So if Trump fires Mueller NOTHING will happen as a result except for some hand wringing (but no action) by the likes of Flake, McCain and Collins.

  • Bad Tom

    This is important.
    I am 100% in solidarity with these Conservatives.

    Reaching across the aisle was a long standing tradition, until Gingrich and his followers.

    It is vital that we revive it again. Vital for the sake of our Nation.
    I am not exaggerating.

    • Gerry Fisher

      Yes, please. We can reach across the aisle for things like this and still battle them fiercely on other issues.

  • sandollar_man

    Bill Kristol never made any sense. He always recounts an inverted telling of history.
    As if he lived those events on another planet.
    Bill Kristol pushed Sarah Palin on us and onto grandpa McCain.

    But if it’s true that he urged Evan McMullin to run, it might indicate that Kristol has journeyed part of the way back to reality.

    I watch McMullin during the last Primaries, and it was only him and Kasich who gave me the impression that they had any snap.
    McMullin is a CIA operative, and speaks from a perspective that always coincided with my remembrance of history.
    And he seemed to have empathy and selflessness. Qualities totally lacking in all of the other Re-Thug candidates.
    A CIA dude who was very impressive in his anti-Trump rhetoric.

  • Jean-Marc in Canada

    curiouser and curiouser….