Netflix Suspends Final Season Of House Of Cards

Deadline reports:

Filming on the upcoming sixth and final season of Netflix’s Washington D.C.-set drama House of Cards has been suspended indefinitely. Cast and crew of the MRC-produced series were told of the shutdown this morning.

“MRC and Netflix have decided to suspend production on House of Cards season six, until further notice, to give us time to review the current situation and to address any concerns of our cast and crew,” the two companies said in a joint statement to Deadline.

The news comes less than 24 hours after Netflix announced that House of Cards will end with its upcoming sixth season as allegations of unwanted sexual advances in 1986 by HoC star Kevin Spacey against then-14-year-old Anthony Rapp had emerged.

  • jixter

    Well, you knew that was coming – or going.

  • Rex

    Now if we could suspend the real house of cards.

    • kaydenpat

      Mueller is working on that.

      • Jon

        I can’t wait for the series finale! 😀

        • vorpal 😼

          I’m hoping it’ll get cancelled before the 2018 season.

          With ratings that low, and such a bad cast of characters, makeup artists, and costume designers – not to mention a terrible script – it’s amazing it’s lasted this long.

          Funny how One Million Moms have been strangely silent about all the dialogue of inc*st and p*ssy grabbing.

          • (((GC)))

            And leading characters who wander disastrously far off the script, forcing the rest of the ensemble to improvise damage control so the show can go on.

            (ETA) Or maybe that is part of the script?… Or maybe we’re watching some really really bad improv theater….

          • vorpal 😼

            Despite the poor quality of the original series, I’d be game for a spin-off crime show starring Mueller.

          • (((GC)))

            Let reality match fantasy, with the bad guys caught and convicted!

        • Shy Guy

          You mean this one? Posted here a few times since Friday.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7Uy0Uznw4E

  • Kelly Lape

    Spacey fucked up his apology tour. I’m going to have to give him a down vote.

  • bkmn

    Not surprised. dListed reported this morning that Netflix is exploring the idea of spin-offs. I could see them do a spin-off of Claire/Robin Wright running for Prez after Frank had a fatal heart attack/complications from his shooting.

    • ben-andy

      Adversity breeds creativity. Witness Randy Rainbow’s homage to Dr. Frank, Mueller, and the cast of Trump’s Transylvanian “dump” [well, if Russia isn’t “beyond the woods”, what is? I is certainly beyond the pale].

  • FeydRautha

    Congrats, Mr. Rapp, you just put hundreds of people out of work….

    • Do Something Nice

      Yeah, blame the victim.

      Fuckwad.

      • FeydRautha

        And if it turns out that Rapp could’ve prevented an actual rape that happened in the intervening years by naming names back in 2001 or taking Spacey to court (civil court, even)… wouldn’t he shoulder some of the blame?

        • John30013

          First you make a completely unsupportable statement chastising the victim for coming forward and “putting people out of work” (paraphrasing your words). Then you get called out on your bullshit. So *then* you say he should have come forward sooner, to have prevented what you can only speculate *might* have happened.

          Logic much?

          • FeydRautha

            I don’t see how those two things negate each other.

          • John30013

            I’m sure you don’t. That would require a modicum of intelligence, which you obviously lack.

          • FeydRautha

            He’s spoken about the incident before. If he was so concerned that Spacey posed a danger, he should’ve exposed him then. In 2001, he was in no danger of Spacey reoffending against him.

          • John30013

            Perhaps he wasn’t concerned about that. He didn’t mention that as a factor in his recent decision to name Spacey, so why do you assume facts not in evidence?

            Here’s the whole story. Read it for yourself. https://www.buzzfeed.com/adambvary/anthony-rapp-kevin-spacey-made-sexual-advance-when-i-was-14

          • FeydRautha

            His motivations are very unclear to me.

          • John30013

            So stop trying to ascribe your own ideas of how he should have behaved–or why–to him. And stop the victim blaming.

        • Do Something Nice

          No. First, there was no sexual assault. Rapp said it was an unwanted sexual advance. And it appears that when Rapp rejected the advance nothing more happened.

          So there was no rape and nothing that indicated that Spacey was rapist.

    • AC

      Fuck FeydRautha

      • FeydRautha

        Are you threatening to rape me?!

        • shivadog

          Sure, everyone who says “fuck you” is threatening rape. Get a grip.

        • greenmanTN

          Not even with Sarah Huckabee Sanders’ dick.

          • FeydRautha

            And there’s the misogyny and transphobia…

          • matrem

            Sure, sure. Thanks for your impersonation of a “woke” person. Did you stumble in here from InfoWars?

          • FeydRautha

            Woke? Don’t keep up with your lingo…

          • matrem

            I’m so sure. Is this your first day on the job? You’re terrible at this.

          • greenmanTN

            As opposed to blaming the then 14 year old victim of sexual assault? You have no claim to the moral high ground here, toots.

          • FeydRautha

            Well, I thought that’s what you’re claiming…

          • RaygunsGoZap

            Fuck you, you false and ignorant pustule.

        • Tomcat

          Fuck yourself FeydRautha. There fixed it.

        • RaygunsGoZap

          Fuck you, you pile of shit.

      • Mihangel apYrs

        I thought Baron Harkonnen did

    • shakeexplode

      Wrong, and wrong.

    • Tulle Christensen

      You spelled Spacey wrong

    • Judas Peckerwood

      Christ, you are an asshole.

      • Judas Peckerwood

        An asshole who has been flagged and blocked, I might add.

    • matrem

      Oh look, a brand new troll account with 90 comments to their name. Enjoy getting banned. It’s sad you feel the need to blame the victims of pedophiles for the crimes committed against them.

    • RaygunsGoZap

      Fuck you, you piece of total garbage.

  • SkokieGuy [ChicagoAdjacentGuy]

    His brother claims they grew up in a horribly damaged household. Spacey has said that he did not suffer what his brother did. This obviously in no way excuses things, but was something I had not heard before. According to the NY Post (therefore take with shaker of salt)

    “Fowler, a limo driver living in Boise, Idaho, said he had been sexually abused by their father, Thomas Geoffrey Fowler — whom they called “The Creature” — and that their mother knew about it. Their older sister, Julie, also endured beatings before she fled home when she was 18, according to the Daily Mail.

    In a 2004 interview with the paper, Fowler described how their ultra-right-wing, perverted dad was a member of the American Nazi Party. He was so enamored with Adolf Hitler that he even trimmed his mustache to resemble the Fuehrer’s.

    Fowler told the Daily Mail that he refused to have children of his own because he feared they would “inherit the sexual predator gene.”

    https://pagesix.com/2017/10/31/kevin-spaceys-brother-our-father-abused-us-as-children/

    • Lazycrockett

      He was 26 when he tried to mess with a 14 year old, and there comes a point when blaming daddy on your assholery is just fucking lame.

      • SkokieGuy [ChicagoAdjacentGuy]

        I’m not aware that he has ever blamed his father. The person making the statements is his brother.

        • Lazycrockett

          he’s providing cover.

          • SkokieGuy [ChicagoAdjacentGuy]

            Did you read the article? He has no relationship with Spacey. Much of the information is cobbled together from old interviews. However he is writing a book about his own abuse, so if anything, he’s possibly trying to generate some publicity for himself off of the awful revelation about Spacey’s actions.

      • Ninja0980

        Yup.
        You don’t get to blame your crappy childhood on your own doings as an adult.

      • IamSmartypants

        I was sexually abused from age 8 -11 and NEVER messed with anyone underage. I acted shamefully with guys my own age before getting called out and getting help. The abuse they suffered sounds horrific, but perpetuating the stereotype that abused kids become abusers and that is yet another level of insult to add on top of the injury Spacey has committed.

        • RaygunsGoZap

          DING! DING! DING!

          Different age range for the abuse, but me too.

        • BobSF_94117

          It’s not a stereotype, it’s a statistical fact. It doesn’t mean, of course, that all victims of abuse will become abusers.

          • IamSmartypants

            You are very wrong. A UK study reported in the Lancet found only 12% of boys who were sexually abused later abused children — the vast majority of abused children do not become abusers and your claiming many or most do go on to abuse is wrong and despicable.

            https://www.havoca.org/sexually-abused-kids-become-abusers/

          • BobSF_94117

            Did you read the article you linked to?

          • BobSF_94117

            I’ve reread our comments and I can see that you thought I meant most or the majority or many abuse victims go on to become perpetrators. I can see why you thought I meant that. I’m sorry for being so unclear. All I mean is that a higher percentage of abused go on to abuse than you find in the general population. Even so, it’s still a minority of abuse victims.

          • Mark Cross

            “…it’s a statistical fact.”
            What evidence, what study, what data can you point me to that backs that statement?

  • Elagabalus

    If you haven’t yet read Michelangelo Signorile’s serious takedown of Spacey it’s worth a read:

    How Kevin Spacey Defamed All Gay and Bisexual Men By Coming Out
    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/how-kevin-spacey-defamed-all-gay-and-bisexual-men-by-coming-out_us_59f743a7e4b07fdc5fbfb9a1

    • Judas Peckerwood

      As usual, Michelangelo nailed it.

    • Xiao Ai: The Social Gadfly

      Interesting, but it tends to negate the fact that the majority of Americans no longer buy into the much debunked, gays are predators, alcoholic, sex-crazed, lying choosers, that groups like FRC posit. What Signorile does, on the other hand, is attempt to give credence to that argument as a reason to paint us as victims. I’m not a victim and Michelangelo does not speak for me.

      • BJORN RAGNVALDR

        Enough of them do to vote a homophobic, Nazi, misogynistic predator into office.

        • Judas Peckerwood

          Yup.

        • kcken

          This! Facts show it’s different, and we all know it’s complete bullshit, but these people don’t need “facts”.

        • Xiao Ai: The Social Gadfly

          Except, they didn’t vote him into office, the skewed, Electoral College did. Additionally, some of those who did vote for the asshat aren’t anti-gay necessarily.

          • BJORN RAGNVALDR

            It still worked.

          • Xiao Ai: The Social Gadfly

            It doesn’t matter if it worked or not. It’s not relevant to the article.

          • BJORN RAGNVALDR

            No, it was relevant however, to the point you were making.

          • kcken

            Trans Military ban
            Speaker at the Value Voters Summit
            And at least 1/2 dozen anti-gay nutbags given cabinet positions

            And lets not forget Mike FUCKING Pence.

          • Xiao Ai: The Social Gadfly

            But, that’s not the majority of Americans and that’s a separate issue. And the Trans military ban has been stopped for now and there is a lot of uproar about it within the ranks of the military itself. People that don’t think the ban is a good choice. That alone should discount some fear.

          • Tulle Christensen

            yes they are just aasshats

          • Ander

            They may not be anti-gay by intent, but they are anti-gay by effect.

      • Lori

        Where do you live? I can assure you that here in the former land of Pence the FRC party line still plays. It’s nice that you aren’t a victim, but other people are and Spacey’s distraction attempt played right into nasty homophobia. It was shit and he should be ashamed.

        • Xiao Ai: The Social Gadfly

          I lived much of my early life in the center of PA and now reside in Arizona. I’m well aware of the fact that the FRC line plays to some, but I don’t believe that it plays to the majority. Even in [email protected] PA where I had numerous LGBT friends the climate has changed. I agree that Spacey is trash. Just not that his bs will have the effect that some believe.

          • Lori

            They don’t need to be a majority to make people’s lives miserable with their trash.

      • CanuckDon

        I’d like to know how many of us read this story yesterday and didn’t immediately get angry at Spacey for making us all look like predators. It sure wasn’t anything that came to my mind and it’s about time that we all stopped gearing our thoughts and actions on the perceived reactions of those who continually spurn us. I thought that’s what our pride celebrations were all about.

      • Tom Furgas

        I’d like to see the proof of your assertion that “the majority of Americans no longer buy into the much debunked…” beliefs “that groups like FRC posit.” In any case, even if those who believe these ideas are in the minority, there are still enough of them to cause significant damage to gay people. “Victims”? If you’re openly gay and have never been victimized you are a rare bird indeed.

        • Xiao Ai: The Social Gadfly

          You’re welcome to live however you see fit for yourself.

    • NYCBullDog

      Love it. Never liked this a-hole.

  • bkmn

    I had heard rumors for years that he was closeted, but had never heard about him assaulting/being interested in underage guys. Yet there were some here that had heard those rumors. I hope that the next time we hear rumors involving underage kids that we call them out on it, instead of tolerating them with our silence.

    • Friday

      It’s a problem when you’re among a minority that’s falsely accused of that shit on a daily basis. How *do* you sort out the real thing from the general celebrity gossip and rhetoric. (Really for the exact same reason this was an ill-timed ‘coming out,’ even if whatever happened years ago seems to have a lot to do with the closet in the first place. )

      • Ninja0980

        Indeed, and let’s face it, there were plenty of innocent gay men and women who WERE falsely accused of this crime.
        Treat gossip now as something that should never be questioned is not a road you want to go down.

  • Future Legend

    What this means is that Netflix has been made aware of more dirt about to hit the press.

    • Do Something Nice

      Really? Where did you read that? Or are you just making shit up?

      • Tulle Christensen

        It’s the internet, you are required to make shit up

      • Mr. M

        Tony Montana has accused Spacey of groping him.

    • FeydRautha

      Or they’re waiting for the social media outrage machine to peter out…

  • Darrel Cj

    Once again, the entertainment industry has held the likes of Billy Bush, Kevin Spacey and Harvey Weinstein to a higher moral standard than the American public has held Dump to.

    • crewman

      … eventually. We should note the “casting couch” was just accepted as an unchallengable norm until now.

    • kaydenpat

      Sadly true. And keep in mind that his biggest supporters claim to be Christian.

      • JCF

        …and ARE Christianists.

  • Tulle Christensen

    Well looks like Netflix has folded their house of cards before a gust of wind could knock it over

    • netxtown

      I’m wondering which blew harder. The ‘gay’ thing or the underage thing…

      • Tulle Christensen

        Hopefully the underage thing. I have not seen anything to make me think Netflix has any problems with gay people

      • John30013

        Probably the latter, especially combined with the heightened sensitivity to allegations of sexual abuse/unwanted advances by powerful people in the entertainment industry.

      • lymis

        If anyone on the planet is surprised that Spacey is gay, they’ve been living under a rock. THAT aspect of this cannot be a surprise to Netflix.

  • Gigi

    The show stopped being good a long time ago. Netflix is using the accusation against Spacey as an excuse to end it.

    • Mr. M

      True, but I still want to see what happens…

    • Reality.Bites

      Netflix doesn’t need an excuse to cancel anything they want

  • PickyPecker
    • M Jackson

      I only saw season one but it was awsesome.

    • Lazycrockett

      Loved this showl Loved It!

  • netxtown

    maybe they could do a spinoff to a modern day Salem Witch Trials…and in the first episode they could have Spacey off’d in a bonfire…..

    • Judas Peckerwood

      Spacey lit himself on fire.

  • BobSF_94117

    Absolutely absurd.

  • Lazycrockett

    Just blow him up in the motorcade and continue with the wife. She seems more interesting.

    • kiprian

      In the original series, thePM’s wife has the PM assassinated because its politically expedient for all involved. Could work here as well…

  • JCF

    OT: Wow, listening to the Internet Security Hearing, I looked up asking “Who’s she?”

    Um, not she. Richard Salgado of Google. If my choir needed another mezzo…
    (actually, we do)

  • Ninja0980

    Too bad we can’t do the same to the real one.

  • RaygunsGoZap

    Robin Wright must be so pissed at Spacey!

  • Tomcat

    Amazing what we consider normal in movies and how it bleeds into real life once in a while.

  • Andrea_Rae

    All on an accusation, scary. What happened to innocent until proven guilty?

    How many hundreds are out of a job?

    Edit: The far left is sooooo eager to get a pound of flesh…..from anyone, it doesn’t matter.

    • Bluto

      Proven guilty by his own admission.

      • Andrea_Rae

        I wasn’t aware he admitted it, in his statement he says he doesn’t remember.

        • Judas Peckerwood

          Oy.

    • Tomcat

      There never has been such a thing. If you believe there is tell the cop that arrest you to take the cuffs off and leave you alone and you don’t need their protection. SEE WHAT HAPPENS.

    • Natty Enquirer

      Apologist! Normalizer!

    • Barry William Teske

      You sound ‘truly’ worried about the placement of your processed cheese…
      Thank you for NOT acknowledging that emoji’s have feelings too…

    • RaygunsGoZap

      Are we in a court of law? No, we are not.

    • Ross

      I agree.

      Why are hundreds of people out of a job because of what one actor did?

      NETFLIX could have handled this better.

      • Tulle Christensen

        Well being out of a job in Hollywood is the normal. Having a job is the unusual

        • Ross

          That does not answer my question.

          • Tulle Christensen

            I don’t have an answer, anyone at NetFlix would be at least three degrees of separation from me and I do not have enough favors left to pull them in for this

          • Ross

            What??????

            Damn.

            And here I had always thought that JMG commenters were all powerful.*

            (*Except when it comes to elections).

          • Tulle Christensen

            lol, I was transferred to hurricane duty years ago, so my Hollywood connections are just some old timers

          • AmeriCanadian

            I find an impressive bunch gathers here regularly. Really.

      • AmeriCanadian

        I think a better question to ask is how much profit was Netflix making/losing on this series?

        • Tulle Christensen

          Now that is the question.

      • Schlukitz

        I too am asking myself the same question.

      • -M-

        Just speculating here, but possibly some of the cast and crew don’t want to put up with Spacey anymore and now that the open secret has is being acknowledged it’s not just a nobodies vs the star situation?

    • BobSF_94117

      Indeed, if this were the far right, they’d just apologize to Jesus on Fox (He watches only Fox and Food Network) and ship out some hush money. You know, the Traditional approach.

      • Tulle Christensen

        Isn’t HGTV OK too?

    • Judas Peckerwood

      “The far left is sooooo eager to get a pound of flesh…”

      You just outed yourself as an idiot.

    • Mike

      Innocent until the accused acknowledges he did it and apologizes for it. Worst apology ever, on so many levels.

  • kaydenpat

    Wow. That was quick.

  • Tomcat

    I am going to miss that show,,, NOT.

    • AmeriCanadian

      I tried to watch the first season but couldn’t get past the first two episodes.

  • kcken

    Shame all those other people will lose their jobs. They couldn’t just replace that walking disaster with another actor/actress even?

  • GayOldLady

    Good!

  • Adam King

    I’m sure the cast and crew would prefer unemployment.

  • Palmer

    This is going to hurt a lot of innocent people. They’re being punished for Spacey’s sin.

  • Bambino

    Netflix is back paddling fast, The announcement of yesterday using Kevin Spacey’s sexual harassment allegation as a reason to cancel the series was opportunistic. It already know since summer when Netflix are working on developing spin off from House of Cards after season 6. This is them making the appropriate call to address the Kevin Spacey mess.

  • Reasonoverhate

    So now all it takes is a mere accusation to ruin someone’s life and career. If he did it, it was inappropriate. And it was 30 years ago. At some point an apology needs to be enough.

    • TKW

      TOTALLY agree. This is not the same thing as Harvey Weinstein. As mush as I am not a big Kevin Spacey fan, he does not deserve this.

    • Treant

      Agreed. It’s way past the statute of limitations even if it ever did happen. And it’s he-said-he-said as well.

      The snap reflex to believe the accuser without proof is definitely not a good thing to be doing. We may find out that one simply hates the other.

      • Mike

        Rapp must hate Spacey’s guts. I wonder if all this has made it any easier for him.

        • Treant

          That’s possible. It’s also slightly possible that he saw an opportunity to boost his own career.

          The issue being, this isn’t ever going to go to court and there won’t ever be a guilty verdict. Given the rumors…Spacey is not a good guy. But again, there are rumors that I’m completely heartless.

          Oh, wait, those are true…

          • licuado de platano

            Anthony Rapp is doing just fine and doesn’t need a “career boost”.

    • -M-

      Spacey has a reputation just like Weinstein or Halperin. This is it catching up to him.

      • Reasonoverhate

        Really? Where are the other accusers?

        • -M-

          Fair point.

  • Cuberly Deux

    Begs the question. How many cast and crew just plain didn’t want to linger for one more year with Spacey’s bullshit hanging over them. Yeah, it’s a gig, but at what cost. Every episode would be tainted.

  • JackNasty

    The original three part House of Cards series, produced by the BBC in 1996 starring Ian Richardson as Francis Urquhart, was wonderful. It had a beginning, a middle, and an end.

    Netflix took a good, succinct, thrilling British story, reset it in the US, and turned it into a long-winded series that lasted for years with no end in sight.

    Kevin Spacey’s attempt to obfuscate his attempted abuse of a 14 year old child with announcement that he is gay is disgusting.

    Netflix has plenty of reason to abandon the both the show and Spacey.

  • They could always just kill off his character. Robin Wright is a strong enough actor to carry the last season of the show. She is president now anyway. Of course that interfere’s with the plot outline (which is obviously based on Macbeth) but whatever. The show went off the rails several seasons ago.

  • Johnny Wyeknot

    14 is pretty damn young.

  • SPOILER ALERT:
    In the original British “House of Cards,” the prime minister gets deaded. Why can’t the American version do that?

    Anthony Rapp is an actor. I can’t believe he intended to put a whole cast & crew out of work.

  • Johnny Wyeknot

    So where does this leave us with Woody Allen?

    • lymis

      Annoyed.

  • m_lp_ql_m

    And in other news, Star Trek Discovery has been renewed for a 2nd season.

  • JWC

    Again I am not suppiorting Mt spaceys action with a 14 year old 30 years ago I am asking which of the 2 men are you judging The alleged pedophille of 30 years ago or the actor who has provided a compendium of good acting . Do we, can we separate the two facts You may not like history but you are powerless to change it.

  • Jamie Wilson

    They have been shooting this show for 6 years without incident. Now the cast and crew have safety concerns because of what he did in 1986? More likely, Netflix doesn’t want to spend money on the show if it thinks that the number of streams will be low, so it is using “cast and crew safety” as a reason to break contracts and stop production.

    • lymis

      Without reported incident. If the recent sexual harassment exposes have taught us anything, there can be a decades long pattern that only breaks open when the first person comes forward.

      Without more accusers, there’s no reason to make accusations. But there’s no reason to flatly assert there haven’t been other similar situations.

  • leastyebejudged

    Well that’s unfortunate.

  • justmeeeee

    production suspended…until we find out just how deep is this deep shit…and if it ain’t all that deep…we’re back in bidniz.

  • boobert

    Now it’s jeremy priven. Some starlet says he grabbed her ( fake ?) boobs, lol.

  • Jean-Marc in Canada

    There’s a lot to unpack here.

    Firstly, Anthony Rapp made a statement regarding what happened to him when he was 14; an incident which, according to other sources, Rapp had quietly confided in with others over the last 30 years. So the odds of it being fictional are doubtful. Further, once Mr. Rapp made the statement, he made it clear as to why he did so and then, to his credit, said nothing more. He didn’t demand an apology, he didn’t drag it out, he didn’t even demand retribution. Per his original statement, he simply felt emboldened by the women who came forward against Weinstein and thus it gave him the strength to “speak his truth.” Beyond that, he’s made no attempt to cash in or even do interviews and the like. That speaks volumes and further speak truth to dubious claims of this being a stunt or attempt to further his career.

    Secondly, Kevin Spacey, upon hearing this news did what? Did he simply acknowledge the possibility of his actions? Did he apologize unreservedly? NO. What he did was: A) Came out as gay, as if that had any bearing on the story regarding a 26 year old man being inappropriate with a 14 year old boy. B) Admitted that it may have happened and that, if it did, he was drunk and thus implied a mitigating circumstance and C) proceeded to pull a Weinstein by saying he would work with the LGBT community, as if to say “my bad, but look, I’m going to be out, loud and proud from now on so it’s a push”….No, it’s not a push, it was a weaselly act of self preservation, presented as a tepid mea culpa wrapped in a rainbow flag of “Look, I’m coming out, aren’t I special.”

    Thirdly, regarding the actions of Netflix and others in the entertainment industry; their reactions, while laudable to a degree, are overreaching and far too over the top to be viewed as anything other than gamesmanship. Yes, Spacey should be made to suffer some form of punishment in regards to his actions, actions he freely admits could have taken place, but for his being drunk. That said, since Mr. Rapp made it clear he simply wanted to speak his truth and nothing more, the reactions by Netflix do seem disproportionate to the crime given the length of time since it occurred, the lack of any evidence that said action was indicative of Mr. Spacey’s character and that Mr. Spacey’s body of work is considerable and without blemish (this may change if new information or others come forward). As such, this action punishes not Mr. Spacey alone, but all those who’s livelihood depends on the production. As others have noted, Netflix could either continue until the story is done or write Mr. Spacey out and continue with the rest of the cast. Point being, Netflix response isn’t proportional to the incident because others are being made to pay a price.

    Fourth, and most bothersome to me is the almost sudden backlash against Mr. Rapp. While Rose McGowan and other women are being lauded for coming forward, Mr. Rapp is being met with snide inferences of “this is a stunt”, “he’s just doing it to help his career”, etc. The palpable double standard and not-at-all-subtle sexist subtext is concerning. Further, that a good deal of this is coming from other gay men is even more troubling. Again, we make proclamations that “Women should be believed”….but not Anthony Rapp? Sadly, as with most charges of this kind, we will never know all the specifics or facts; but given that there’s no upside for coming forward, I find myself believing Mr. Rapp’s story. It benefits no one financially or career wise, so claims of witch hunt ring dubious.

    In conclusion, I find the entire affair both sordid and sad. Sordid for obvious reasons and sad because it seems that, once again, a gay man is being given short shrift by those who should know better and from their own tribe. Yes, Netflix is overreacting…no, Mr. Spacey should not suddenly be denied further work…and no, simple accusations should not destroy someone; but so too must we not fall so quickly back into the decades, nay centuries, old trope that when someone comes forward with such a story, it’s because “she asked for it”, “he wants to further his career”, “they’re looking for attention”, etc.

    Apologies for the lengthy post. I had more to say but I kept it brief….yes, this is very much brief for me.

    • Davester

      “are overreaching and far too over the top to be viewed as anything other than gamesmanship.”
      “Netflix is overreacting”

      They really have no choice.

      • Jean-Marc in Canada

        Well, they do and they don’t, as I pointed out.

        • Davester

          You need to learn the expression “will it play in Peoria”. To just plow ahead with Spacey being the lead character in the final season will not fly in flyover country. (or anywhere else, actually)

          But in any case, I think they are probably not canning the last season, just figuring out how to kill Spacey’s character off in the first episode. If not somehow retroactively. I’m in the Baltimore area and know a couple people who have been extras. Obviously it’s unfair to the crew and cast…I think Netflix wants to do right by them, but that means getting Spacey out of the storyline ASAP.

          • Jean-Marc in Canada

            You might want to re-read what I wrote. I stated that either they move ahead OR find a way to move on without him.

        • Davester

          Yes, I read it. You said “Point being, Netflix response isn’t proportional to the incident because others are being made to pay a price.” They have no choice but to stop production when they absolutely cannot have Spacey be the star of the series. End of discussion. It makes sense to start shooting and then throw all the footage away. Hopefully the delay will not be too long.
          Even if, Dr. Who style…they magically recast Frank Underwood via some deux ex machina plot twist – that takes time.
          (I keep tying Stacey because Spacey is such a weird word to type LOL)

    • Reality.Bites

      There is an after show following Star Trek Discovery each week on CBS All Access and Netflix outside Canada and the US. This week’s guests were Anthony Rapp (it was a big episode for his character) and Wilson Cruz, who plays his husband, the ship’s doctor.

      There was no mention of the incident. It is a “company” show for publicity, of course, but if he or they felt it would overtake the show or his character, they could have had a different cast member appear.

      • Jean-Marc in Canada

        Yup. I watched After Trek online and I agree, Rapp made his statement and left it at that. It’s everyone else who’s reacting as they choose to.

    • Hue-Man

      To me, Netflix is following the scorched-earth policy that has been taken by other entertainment entities in response to recent sexual assault allegations against media stars – Weinstein, Gilbert Rozon, Eric Salvail, and less recently, Claude Jutra (which resulted in the renaming of the Jutra awards to “Prix Iris”). The individuals and everything they were associated with have become toxic, with the results you described in your post.

      With Spacy, it was one incident that occurred three decades ago. Netflix probably considered how other sex assault scandals have played out over time and decided not to take the risk that dozens of other victims come out of the woodwork.

  • Tom Furgas

    Nice going, Spacey. How many staffers and fellow actors on this series will be out on the street thanks to you? You have plenty of money in the bank, I’m sure, and don’t have to worry about it.

    I’ve always had a undefinable aversion to Spacey, and now I understand why.

  • coram nobis

    Meanwhile, the wound that Spacey opened seems to be oozing more pus.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/oct/31/hollywood-male-abusers-boys-gay-men-kevin-spacey

    Hollywood has a “rampant” and “pervasive” problem of men sexually abusing boys and young men, according to actors and lawyers who are speaking up about misconduct and harassment in the wake of an allegation against actor Kevin Spacey …
    — lede

  • Davester

    Simple explanation, the writers need time to figure out how to write him out of the final season’s plot.

    • coram nobis

      The UK series ended with Francis Urquhart’s assassination.

  • LesbianTippingHabits


    Perhaps this won’t just be a metaphor.

    Maybe it’ll foreshadow Trump’s political exit.

  • Ben in Oakland

    wrong.
    wrong.
    wrong.

  • ECarpenter

    According to Rapp, he stayed behind after everyone else had left the party, and was sitting on Spacey’s bed when Spacey came in to go to bed. While it’s absolutely certain Rapp didn’t mean to send any sexual signals, that’s a classic “I want to have sex with you” tactic when done by an adult.

    Also according to Rapp, Spacey was seriously drunk, and clearly didn’t check to see if what looked like was happening was intentional – and it’s not likely he thought about Rapp’s age ether at that point. Spacey didn’t stop Rapp when he got up and said he was leaving, though – which also fits with an adult situation.

    It felt like assault to Rapp, of course – he was completely unaware of what the situation looked like to an adult gay man. But many of us have been in that exact situation, when an admirer has stayed behind and waited for us in the bedroom. It’s common enough that it’s an occasional plot device in movies.

    The whole story reads like a serious misunderstanding fueled mainly by Rapps inexperience and Spacey’s drunkenness. And when Rapp got up and said he was leaving, the seriously drunk Spacey just walked him to the door.

  • SDG

    “to give us time to review the current situation”

    = Give us time to figure out if we will lose more money by cancelling instead of letting it go on as planned.

    “and to address any concerns of our cast and crew,”

    = BS

  • ECarpenter

    The lad stayed behind when all the other guests had left, and was sitting on Spacey’s bed when Spacey came into his own bedroom.

    Now, to an adult, that looks like a blatant sexual invitation. It’s even used as a plot device in movies. But of course Rapp wasn’t making a sexual advance and had no idea what it looked like to a grownup, so he felt assaulted when Spacey picked him up and put him on the bed. And if Spacey hadn’t been very drunk (also according to Rapp’s story) he would undoubtedly have not done anything, since, if he’d known Rapp was 14, he would have realized that Rapp was way too young.

    When Rapp got up and said he was leaving (the first time he’d spoken), Spacey walked him to the door. Which is also not very assault-y.

    It just doesn’t sound like the intentional assault of a minor. Dumb and drunk, yes, a major misunderstanding on both their parts, yes, but not criminal.

    • John Calendo

      1. When I was 14 .. hell, when I was 10 … I could read sexual signals clearly. and P.S. I was not in the theater, not surrounded by its world of showy, flamboyant, personalities, but a quietly brought up Catholic school boy.

      2. If Rapp is gay … really, he didn’t welcome a 26-year old man offering to show him the way?…but felt it was an “assault”?

      3. Bottom line: nothing happened. Spacey made a pass, Rapp rejected it. Rapp left in a cab.

      4. Meanwhile, there’s no way a 14-year-old boy can pass as 18 and legal. Even a girl, with makeup tricks, still has an immature, unfinished look about her. And Rapp, for most of his career, has given off a boyish vibe. So that scores against Spacey. Still: pass sent, pass rejected, Rapp went home unfucked.

  • Pete Wascher

    articulate indictment of spacey on seth meyers by one of his writers, wed nite show.