Kevin Spacey Comes Out, Apologizes After Allegations He Made Moves On Then-Teenage Actor Anthony Rapp

Buzzfeed reports:

In an interview with BuzzFeed News, Anthony Rapp is publicly alleging for the first time that in 1986, Spacey befriended Rapp while they both performed on Broadway shows, invited Rapp over to his apartment for a party, and, at the end of the night, picked Rapp up, placed him on his bed, and climbed on top of him, making a sexual advance. According to public records, Spacey was 26. Rapp was 14.

Representatives for Spacey, now 58, did not respond to numerous phone calls, emails, and a letter detailing the allegations. However after this story was published, Spacey posted on Twitter that he did not remember the encounter with Rapp. “But if I did behave then as he describes, I owe him the sincerest apology for what would have been deeply inappropriate drunken behavior,” Spacey wrote.

“This story has encouraged me to address other things about my life. I know that there are other stories out there about me and that some have been fueled by the fact that I have been so protective of my privacy,” he continued. He also acknowledged for the first time publicly that “I now choose to live as a gay man.”

There’s much more from Rapp at the link.


  • ben

    seems kind of lame to try and cover this up with an “I’m gay” admission. also “I choose to live my life as a gay man” !?!?!

  • 5moreminutes*imtired

    It’s almost like he was saving his coming out for just such an occasion. Barf.

  • Ziad Baaklini

    At least he apologized and admitted fault rather than attack him.

    • Gerry Fisher

      I’m not crazy about the “if I did it” language, but…I’ll let that go.

    • Joe in PA

      So there’s that. ;(

    • Mark Cross

      The “IF” of his apology negates it.

      • Chris Baker

        But what if he honestly did not remember? Is he supposed to admit something he doesn’t remember? I have never been drunk, so I can’t theorize on what his memory may or may not be.

        On the other hand, he may remember and just doesn’t want to admit it.

      • Schlukitz

        Good catch.

  • TK

    “I chose to live my life as a gay man”

    Wanker. He is so up his own ass.

  • justmeeeee

    Oh, hey, you guys…that’s reminds me…did ya’ll know I’m gay????

  • Daveed_WOW

    Spacey goes on the list. No more movies or tv I guess.

  • gaycuckhubby

    Fuck him. He used the closet to protect him for decades while people who came out fought and died for our rights. Now he wants to use the gay community to protect him from abuse allegations. Fuck him

    Ps. I hope Bryan Singer can’t sleep

  • TK
    • worstcultever

      Wanda’s thread is great – these people ain’t playin

      https://twitter.com/Lisa_Cannata/status/924959501824020480

      • TK

        On my FB right now I just saw a comment that said — notice the straight accusations involve women but the gay accusations involve underage boys.

        Complete shit, but I bet it will be an under lying thought for many.

        • vorpal 😼

          For starters:
          Josh Duggar?
          Roman Polanski?
          Joey Buttafuoco?

          People are just looking for more reasons to demonize gay men.

          • Pussygrabber and 13 year old girl
            James Wood and 16 year old girl
            Steven Seagal and some young actress on a set( forgotten details.

      • Dom Saunders

        He probably is actually gay. We all knew for years. But he also did try to choose the exact wrong time to come out and it’s still disgusting, because that doesn’t help us when we have to deal with an administration whose supporter still honestly believe pedophila goes hand-in-hand with being LGBT.

        • Danieruw

          Including the damn Attorney General! Makes me sick who is in that position!

        • stanhope

          Kevin Spacey got the face he deserves….it is call PFD….pay for dick.

  • gaycuckhubby

    Spacey is just another in a list of predators whos behavior is an open secret in Hollywood. Yet studios employee them.

    I have a feeling there will be an avalanche of accusations against Spacey. Not underage but coersion

  • Tawreos

    I have forgotten hitting on people when I have been drunk, but I haven’t been drunk enough to forget someone is 14

    • Joe in PA

      Exactly, if I was THAT drunk I wouldn’t be hitting anything but the floor. 🙁

    • HoneyBoySmith

      Hey!

      I used to ogle 14 year old boys…when I was a 14 year old boy in my high school lockerroom.

    • agcons

      I haven’t even forgotten hitting on people despite being very, very drunk on a couple of occasions many decades ago, and the people involved were my age – I knew them well. The embarrassment has kept me from getting that drunk ever again.

  • Paul

    He’s using our community as a crutch to alleviate his guilt? To hell with him. This moron probably doesn’t realize that FAUX “News” will use this story as a subtle way of pushing the “gay=pedophile” myth that was popular in the 80s and 90s, and the Deplorables will buy it.

    Oh, yeah, and House of Cards is starting to get old. #SorryNotSorry, Kevin.

    • Tawreos

      Their audience never stopped believing that gays were synonymous with pedophiles

      • AmeriCanadian

        Yep and this is just more fuel for their never ending fire.

    • Gerry Fisher

      >This moron probably doesn’t realize that…

      I could be wrong, but the impression I’d gotten over the years is that the welfare of the gay community or gay people in general was not a priority for him (his right to the “privacy” of the closet was his priority). He didn’t care all that much.

      • Gigi

        He cared about himself, that’s it.

        • prixator

          So, he’s a Republican, then?

    • Palmer

      That myth has always been popular. I’ve heard it all my life.

  • Boreal

    A 14 year old. Pathetic loser.

    • Joe in PA

      Not only a loser, it makes him evil.

    • SinfulJosh

      the years dont add up. Rapp was born in 1971, this occurred in 1986.

      • Boreal

        86-71=15. Depending upon what month Rapp was born, 14 is totally plausible. Born in Oct of 71 he wouldn’t have been 15 until Oct of 86.

        • SinfulJosh

          He was born in Oct. 1971.

          He would have been 15 at the youngest, possibly 16

          Based on the report of how they met being tied to their performances. The earliest this could have occurred was end of Apr or beginning of May in 1986.

          I posted more about the timeline based on the reports in a more detailed comment above btw.

          EDIT- I stand corrected. calculated age on a diff calculator site and got the right numbers back. would have been 14.

          • Boreal

            In May of 86 he would still be 14. In any case 14 or 15 makes no difference in this story-still a minor.

          • SinfulJosh

            Gah. stupid internetz. tested on a diff age calculator and you are right.

            I bow to you and concede.

          • Boreal

            In any event Joe just posted a new thread on this.

          • SinfulJosh

            agree, still a minor. again was not my intent to take away from that fact.

            i am concerned about those referring to this as being a pedophile, which is a whole different evil.

          • Boreal

            Xtians will not make that distinction however which will then be used to vilify all gay people as predators.

          • SinfulJosh

            Boreal, completely agree.

            Found an article that worded it more eloquently than I could.

            “Pedophilia has long been conflated with queer sexuality, especially for gay men, and was once used to keep gay people from being teachers or boy scout troop leaders or in other roles where they’d have authority over children. Though we seem to have mostly gotten away from this misconception — the number of Americans who believed gay people are dangerous to children dropped from 70% in 1970 to 19% in 1999 — LGBTQ people are worried Spacey’s coming out refuels this argument.”

            http://www.refinery29.com/2017/10/178828/kevin-spacey-gay-coming-out-pedophilia-stigma

  • Eric Lewis

    He stays silent on his sexuality until the time comes when he can conflate it with an alleged sexual assault on a minor. Not Cool.

  • Paul

    Seriously, though, who’s the next washed-up, once-famous closeted Baby Boomer to “come out” in an attempt to revive their relevance? Tammy Cruise? John REVOLTa?

    • Palmer

      It was Boomers that fought at Compton’s, the Black Cat, and at Stonewall. Don’t conflate Boomer with moral cowardice.

      Also, misogyny (Tammy Cruise) is always inappropriate.

      • Dom Saunders

        It’s also Boomers that gave us Trump, climate change deniers, the NRA, allowed the KKK to survive into the modern day, and all of the politicians on the front lines trying to ensure that women stay well in the back of them. And that’s just “some” of what they’ve given us.

        So…yeah, yeah we can conflate boomers with whatever the hell we want because they made these mistakes and the rest of us have to live with them when they’re no longer around.

        • Palmer

          Hmmm, I see a LOT of millenials in those crowds of KKK, Nazis, and alt-righters. And if millenials had VOTED, instead of whining about Bernie, we wouldn’t have 45 in office. And Boomers started the green movement, Gay Lib, and Women’s Rights, we voted for the ERA.

          Just remember that we older and we VOTE!

          • Dom Saunders

            That’s cute because last I checked, you are referring to white millennials. Black millennials showed out last election and black men voted overwhelmingly Democratic at 86% and black women voted at about a 96% rate in the same. Where were the white votes that were desperately lacking from the Democratic count? Oh, right, they went to Trump, with educated white women and uneducated white men his biggest supporters, something that can’t be said for literally any other ethnic group.

            Don’t come for millennials when we’re the ones who continue to put up with the same shit you all caused. Because you got up and voted and so did we, but we were not the ones that overwhelmingly voted for Trump. Boomers did. Don’t blame us for Clinton being lackluster when all of us who actually had something to lose actually backed her, unlike our white counterparts.

          • Palmer

            Something to lose? WTF are you smoking? Healthcare, student loans, and income inequality are not just for millenials. My husband racked up $20,000 in student loans trying to get an education that would support us. I need to have injections on my hands to counter a genetic defect, and I’ll need a hip replacement because of an athletic past. I fucking marched for the rights you enjoy back in the Seventies, in Salt Lake City, and I’m seeing those gains lost to the evil in the White House.

            Yeah, you got screwed over by some Boomers, but a LOT of us have tried to make this world a better place for all people. So take the bad with the good, or run back into the closet!

          • Dom Saunders

            Where are these boomers who tried to make the world a better place? Seriously, where are they? Oh wait, they’re living comfortably on their social security while the rest of us have to work 2-3 jobs just to rent the same places you used to be able to straight-out buy decades back, but you presume to lecture down to us on how it’s the job of the youth to save people like you from yourselves?

            You’re ridiculous and you know it. Your argument defeats itself. Sure, boomers vote in spades compared to millennials. But that’s hardly a feat when you really have nothing else better to do, unlike the rest of us, for one. Two, it is 2017 and you’re expecting young people who have grown in increasingly diverse environments to yet again choose between boring, old, and white candidates who couldn’t give a damn about them? Obama won with millennials because he actually was about change: he was the first black president and wasn’t from the same demographic that caused most of the problems in the country, and so he could better emphasize with regular people. The same can’t have been said for literally anyone else running last year. You want us to do your job and get motivated? Give us a reason to be. Bashing down on us solves nothing when you’re the main one here happily ignoring the flaws of your generation because a minority of you happen to have more than two brain cells remaining to not vote against your best interests while damning everyone else.

            And you want to talk about marching and struggling? Cute. Who are the main people doing that now? Boomers? No. That would be millennials. Who formed BLM and pushed police brutality to the spotlight? Who brought intersectionality to the mainstream and addressed the inner struggles of the LGBT community regarding racism and misogyny to the forefront? Who headlined and populated the women’s march against Trump?

            Hint hint, it wasn’t you. Boomers still gave us Trump and we’re cleaning up your mess. Like we’ve always been doing. Good on the few of you who managed to do some good, but that doesn’t outweigh the long-standing consequences of everything else the rest of you are dragging us through. Next time you want to blame younger people for all of our problems, check within your own camp. Because last I checked, your friends chose shitty nostalgia over the lives of minorities and women. NOT us.

          • Palmer

            I’m not the one who started laying blame, you did. I just pointed out that many of my generation fought for the rights you enjoy, and you objected and started trying to blame all your woes on an entire generation.

            I’m not on Social Security. If I take early retirement (for health reasons) I’ll get a grand total of $750 a month BEFORE taxes that OUR parents decided we needed to pay on money that we already paid taxes on. If I wait to retire at 67 then there might not be any social security left because the “Greatest Generation” looted the trust to pay for the Reagan tax cuts!

            I guess the bashing’s I endured, the being out and open that cost me jobs and promotions, the discrimination I dealt with, just isn’t enough for you. Too bad, my parents handed us a screwed up world, now your parents have done it he same to you.

  • gaycuckhubby

    Mr. Rapp made these same allegations years ago in the Advocate. His story hasn’t changed

    • Jockbear

      That article didn’t name Spacey though?

      • gaycuckhubby

        No

  • Gerry Fisher

    Kevin, you had innumerable chances to come out without the taint of scandal. Sad. (That “sad” wasn’t sarcastic. I do feel sad that it’s all happening this way. I first saw Anthony Rapp in the movie “Dazed and Confused,” which depicted my high school years so perfectly, and I’ve been a fan since.)

  • kcken

    If I had a dollar for every time I got hit on by a drunk gay man, I could fund a campaign run, but NOBODY ever hit on me as a child. NOT once, NOT Ever.

    Kevin, you’re a pig.

    • AaronD12

      I would have at least $3… every time it happened, I was a child.

      • gaycuckhubby

        I’m sorry to hear that

  • Gigi

    I always suspected Spacey was gay but I never thought he’d come out. Ever. Will any of this actually change society for the better, or will we just become numb to the constant stream of accusations?

  • JuanGalicia

    Son of a bitch… to come out now when being accused of assaulting an underage kid which was enough to ruin his career , then he does this to us? Ugh .

    Brilliant actor, i will miss his work, but dammit he is done.

  • Karl Dubhe

    My sister was 15 when her swim coach started a relationship with her. I was always uncomfortable, I knew that if it was a 26 year old man who was molesting her our parents would have called the cops. I don’t know why they never did, I don’t know why I never thought of it either. 🙁

  • bambinoitaliano

    Alcohol does not change alter then intension of an individual. If one is not a sexual predator, an abuser or a murderer before, alcohol should not make one commit such act.

    • agcons

      “In vino veritas”.

      Being bombed has never caused me to do anything I would never do otherwise; it’s only lowered my inhibitions, and sometimes embarrassingly.

    • MichaelJ

      One of the funniest things I’ve ever seen is a YouTube clip of Wanda Sykes on the Tonight Show discussing Mark Foley, the former Republican Congressman from Florida who resigned in the wake of a sexting underage boys scandal, who blamed his behavior on being an alcohol,
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vf_ilDwDOvc

      • DonnaLee

        Wanda puts everything into perspective.

  • JuanGalicia

    Lots of gay reporters, like Yashar on twitter saying it’s disgusting for news publications to even start with the coming out as gay angle on the story… I felt the same but it is surely different in context at joemygod. It looks bad in other outlets tho.

    • gaycuckhubby

      Yeah. Him coming out is not the story

  • j.martindale

    14!!! You stupid shit!

  • worstcultever
    • Dom Saunders

      Pretty fucking much. Because all of the Trumpsters are crowing about how the Left is falling apart because of all of the liberals being outed as pedophiles, as if they didn’t just elect a man with pages of sexual allegations into office. They’re trying to politicize sexual harassment and abuse as if to say “It’s Only Okay When Republicans Do It” when no one should be doing it, period.

  • bambinoitaliano

    I now choose to live as a gay man? What was he living as before the tweet? Pedophile?

    • TampaZeke

      A closet case pederast and public park stalker apparently.

  • netxtown

    I’m wondering what kind of parent lets a 14 year old boy go to an adult party alone? He’s not old enough to drink – and did they really think a special batch of real lemonade would be on the table? NO! I’m not defending Spacey! – but something seems whacky with this “metoo”.

    • IamSmartypants

      A friend who worked on Broadway as a child (original cast of The Wiz), had a good response to your question, “It
      isn’t totally bizarre for kids to be at “adult” events. A kid in a Broadway show is no longer just a kid, they’re a co-worker. I went to
      plenty as a kid, sometimes because I had genuine friends who were adults who thought it was great to include me in their lives, sometimes it was work related in the entertainment industry.”

      But, she says, none of those adult friends ever tried to fuck her at a cast party when she was a child.

      • IamSmartypants

        Btw, the same friend knows other young men Spacey harassed or sexually assaulted, so get ready for the avalanche of career-ending stories about this slimeball.

        • I saw a tweet from someone who was coming out about being sexually harassed (by Halperin) and she said that she felt very alone. And that’s the problem. Rapp probably thought it was just him. It wasn’t. It never is. Spacey has a long history of this crap (although I’ve never heard of any of them being underage before now).

        • Ivan T. Errible

          “Career-ending”?
          You mean Mel Gibson’s not working now?

          • colo303

            But he’s straight. It’s totally OK for straight people to get away with crap, but not the gheyz.

    • Do Something Nice

      I hitchhiked to ‘open parties’ in Newport Beach when I was 14. My parents had no idea. Fortunately for me, while there were a lot of drugs, I never had to deal with predatory adults trying to have sex with me.

      • netxtown

        Well that explains it. I was 14 in Wichita, Ks. The whole fucking state was dry – and I doubt Woolworth’s carried party hats! And the only ‘drugs’ I knew about were the one’s momma got from the doc to help calm her ‘nerves’…. lol!

      • jerry

        I first started going to gay bars when I was a couple months shy of 16…everyone assumed, since I got in, that I was 18 (this was 1979).

    • Yes, that. And also, who lets a 14 year old attend an adult party with alcohol unattended. I’d have sent him home.

  • Rex

    Probably easier to come out as gay than to come out as a pedophile.

  • Texndoc

    In the old days of AOL and the gay section Anthony Rapp was a frequent commenter I recall documenting his appearing in “Rent”. I remember him from the chat board. Can recall his disappointment at no Tony nom but not specifically anything related to this.

  • olandp

    I thought he was out, after that arrest for cruising in the London park.

    • gaycuckhubby

      I don’t think hd was arrested. He was injured. He said he “tripped over his dog”

    • Dazzer

      He wasn’t arrested.

      It was only a story because the British media were laughing at his attempts at cruising.

  • liondon#iamnotatraitor

    Choose?

  • zherazhera

    I can believe that Spacey doesn’t remember this. I can believe that he’s not in the habit of doing this. I can believe that he is sincere about the apology.

    I can NOT accept his timing for coming out this way. “Live as a gay man”? What has he been doing up until now?

    Anthony Rapp, along with all the other young girls and boys who are thrown into Hollywood and expected to know the rules of the adult world, you have all my empathy and grief for your lost innocence.
    I also want to ask: Where the fuck are the kids’ parents?

  • aagold76 .

    I agree with Dan Savage- Coming out SHOULD NOT gloss over allegations of child molestation!

  • seant426

    Brilliant actor. Despicable chicken shit person.

  • Ernest Endevor

    I could be quite wrong but I find much about this story difficult to understand or believe. If such a party happened so long ago, and if he looked so conspicuously young, why did no one else attending talk to him? Based on my own experience I find that very hard to believe. What kind of party was this? Who was there? AND WHAT THE FUCK WAS HIS MOTHER DOING ABANDONING HER SON??????? If there is a villain in this piece she’s it. However, he states the he did something similar in the course of the play. Perhaps that’s informing this memory? The rest of the piece seems an overly dramatic, entirely one-sided recounting – the author states that he’s a friend of Mr Rapp – of something that, if it happened, was at best really inappropriate. From my own experience, young people in the theatre are never treated in such a manner by grown-ups, are NEVER dragged around to cast parties without supervision. Never. He would have been attending school during rehearsals and the run – as is mandated by law – and his mother would have been employed by the producers to chaperone him. So if he was in night-clubs I don’t know what the fuck was going on or how that could have happened. I would urge caution before there is a rush to judgement. Perhaps I’m being obtuse but nothing about this account makes sense to me. I saw Precious Sons BTW, and don’t remember him at all. But it was a long time ago.

    • David Walker

      You are absolutely right about mom/chaperone. Your observations make complete sense. Everyone has a right to an opinion, but you have considerable experience in theater: You know how things work. Your reservations make sense, and my thanks to you for sharing.

      • Schlukitz

        I could be wrong but I suspect that the rush to judgement here is caused by the fear that any defenders of Mr. Spacey’s actions will immediately label them, erroneously of course, as gay pedophiles.

    • TCinBerkeley

      There can be more than one villain.

      Per the story, the party was at Spacey’s apartment, so easy enough for Mom to get distracted (if she was even there).

      Also, your experiences are not everyone’s experiences, so I am willing to believe Rapp in this case. Further, Spacey has made a game of ducking his sexuality for decades and now suddenly he is an out and proud gay man when it is convenient to shield him. Which is bullshit.

      And, once again, ties the larger gay male community to accusations of kiddy-diddling. Thanks Kevin!

    • Do Something Nice

      While I have issues with the story, there’s no doubt in my mind that Spacey did this and that was wrong, and his career is toast.

    • Dom Saunders

      Even if his mother is the “villain” in this piece, that doesn’t mean Spacey isn’t responsible for his own drunken actions around a minor. Regardless of why or how Rapp was there, Spacey should have known better. Clearly he didn’t care enough either way.

      • Ernest Endevor

        Of course he should. It’s ridiculous. And his record with underage men is not good, according to those who know directly. They only say that this didn’t happen. Perhaps I shouldn’t have used the word villain, but I can’t get past the extraordinary behavior on the part of a guardian. And I write that as one whose parents specialized in making inappropriate choices where I was concerned.

  • vorpal 😼

    So tired of people calling things like this pedophilia.
    It is NOT pedophilia: it is statutory rape.

    Pedophilia is the sexual attraction to prepubescent children, and is particularly reprehensible when acted upon.

    That doesn’t make what Spacey did any less wrong, but people throw around the accusation of “pedophilia” way too lightly and ignorantly. I personally see a difference between a 26 year old man making sexual advances on a 14 year old boy and Josh Duggar fondling his prepubescent sisters.

    • netxtown

      I wouldn’t classify this as rape. I’ve not heard/read any allegation of penetration – or even clothing coming off. Attempted sexual molestation for starters – but ‘rape’, no.

      • vorpal 😼

        You’re right: good point.

      • colo303

        Well, it technically is rape, not in the ABC after school definition of rape, but a legal one that defines someone who is underage who through that definition cannot make decisions on their own (hence non-consensual).

    • andrew

      “climbed on top of him, making a sexual advance” is that really “statutory rape?”

    • Schlukitz

      Not that I am in any way defending Spacey’s actions but I do find it curious why Anthony Rapp waited all this time to make this public?

      • Beagle

        At a guess — similar reasons to the women that waited a long time to make Harvey Weinstein’s behavior public. Going up against a powerful figure carries some pretty big risks.

        • Schlukitz

          Point well taken.

      • TCinBerkeley

        Dude, come on. Rapp was 14. I don’t know about you, but at 14 if someone had tried to diddle me, there is NO WAY I would have said anything at the time. I probably would have blamed myself.

        And if he waited even a year or two, at the time, how many folks would have said “Why did you wait so long? Are you sure you didn’t egg him on?” or some such.

        Why do you think alllllll of these people are only doing it now? Because it has finally become okay for people to talk about out in the open.

        Kevin Spacey is an egotistical narcissist who has been running from being an out gay for DECADES and now is suddenly out and proud to shield him from the accusation. He is disgusting.

        • Schlukitz

          I couldn’t agree more with you.

          • TCinBerkeley

            Sorry, my post seems a little attack-y when I reread it, but this whole story makes my blood boil.

            I’m not mad at you, I am mad at the dirt.

          • Schlukitz

            No problem. I totes understand where you are coming from.

            Another black eye for the gay community that we both know will be used/utilized by the religious Reich, anti-gay contingent as grounds for and justification to demand yet more discrimination, violations of our civil rights and “sanctions” against us.

        • iambu

          Agreed, and just to add to your point, it took me 27 years event to admit to my therapist that I was sexually abused as a child. I didn’t blame myself so much as I kept it a deep, dark secret for fear that if anyone knew, they’d never look at me the same way again, I’d be damaged and tragic, even to empathetic people. That and the process of reliving it even in a safe space like my therapist’s office actually makes me physically ill. I still have trouble talking about it. It’s not easy and NOBODY should be criticized for when they decide to disclose or for choosing not to disclose at all.

          • TCinBerkeley

            Ugh. So sorry to hear that! Childhood/adolescence is difficult enough without this malarkey.

        • Exactly. I’m not sure I would have said anything at 19 either.

          Also, who lets a 14 year old attend an adult party where there is alcohol unattended. Spacey (and everyone else there) should have sent Rapp home.

        • SinfulJosh

          He wasnt 14.

          He was born in Oct 1971… this happened in 1986.

          • TCinBerkeley

            LOL. OMG he was 15! Well, that makes it alright then.

            Derp.

      • Dazzer

        He first told this story – without naming Spacey publicly – in 2001.

        He’s not ‘suddenly’ remembered. His story about what happened to him has been consistent for a long time.

        • Schlukitz

          Thank you for the additional background which I was totally unaware of.

        • Spacey has a history of sexual harassment claims. I can’t find the old stories anywhere because they are buried in all the current stories, but he settled some claims out of court from theater shows where he was the producer. (A man and a woman both as I remember.)

      • Dom Saunders

        I don’t understand you. You’re literally asking the same question women in general are asked all the time when the same shit happens to them. You’re old enough to know that that is a stupid question to ask, regardless of the victim, and why it is extremely stupid and tone-deaf to say.

        • colo303

          They just asked a question for their own clarification. You don’t have to treat them like a criminal.

          • Dom Saunders

            What is there to clarify? This is literally tone-deaf commentary and he is too old to be that dense and ask such a basic question on the matter. There is no excuse for that, period.

          • Schlukitz

            Aye Cap’n Bligh.

            Let’s keelhaul the bugger and then make him walk the gang-plank.

        • Schlukitz

          Apparently you missed the exchange of dialogue between Beagle and me a little further down the thread. As you will note, I thoroughly concurred with him…and I concur with you. I always welcome and appreciate opinions that are different from my own. After all, everyone has a different pov which is why sites like JMG exist so that people can air them, even if everyone does not fully agree with the views expressed by the commentator.

          As colo303 pointed out, I asked the question for my own clarification. It was not done with intent to make anyone a victim or make anyone look wrong. I did not object to your expressing your difference of opinion with me. In fact, I welcome your input.

          What I did object to, was the manner in which you did it. You made it into a personal attack which was totally unwarranted. And while I have had occasion to disagree with any number of positions that you have taken on JMG, I have never attacked you personally, called you names or attempted to make you look or feel stupid.

      • Aurvara

        Don’t you think it is the fact that gay people can be out now and still have careers in the movie industry that has helped?

        I imagine that the fear of having your sexuality under scrutiny even back in the ’80s and ’90, hell even the ’00s, would have been enough of added burden to keep you quiet. Just as the inequality between men and women would have kept women quiet.

        Now that you can be out and work must change the climate, and make it harder for these predators to get away with it.
        That’s my thinking anyway.

        • Schlukitz

          Absolutely.

  • aagold76 .

    I’ve loathed him for years- while MANY defended his right to hide out in the closet…I still wouldn’t be surprised if GLAAD or the HRC gave him an award this year, like they do every closet case who FINALLY comes out. Disgraceful!

  • Bj Lincoln

    He “chooses” to live as a gay man? I really wish he had not used that word.

    • iambu

      He could’ve at least added a “finally” or something to indicate that he’d been closeted all these years – still not great, but maybe better. ‘Cause you’re right, that mistake of rhetoric implies that gay is a choice, etc.

    • Nychta

      That struck me, too, among all the other crap in his statement.

    • Dom Saunders

      I wish he didn’t try to abuse a child, but we don’t always get what we want.

  • TampaZeke

    Nothing like waiting until you’re accused of sexual assault to come out.

    And thank goodness he made it clear that he’s been with both men and women. At least we know that he’s not a completely worthless queer.

    • AmeriCanadian

      Not just that he’s been with both men and women but that he now chooses to live his life as a gay man. Chooses. Why doesn’t he just hand the right wingnuts a script for fuck’s sake.

  • Ninja0980

    Go fuck yourself you piece of shit.
    You hid in the closet until you needed a shield against what you had done.
    Not going to fly.

  • Natty Enquirer

    A fine actor and a coward. “God, was I drunk last night …”

  • ChiTownGuy

    I was told many years ago that Spacey, Gus Van Sant, and a famous (now out) rocker, would often travel to a private location in Arizona for sex parties with underage boys. The person who informed me was a good friend to one of the three and the news ended their friendship. I often wondered how celebrities thought they could just violate young boys as though they were their play toys. It disgusted me then and am glad the truth is beginning to emerge.

  • netxtown

    I’m having a hard time with our rejection of his ‘coming out’. I’m wondering what the response would be if even ONE of the RCC priests declared gayness. Of course, coming out today doesn’t have the stigma attached even from just 20 years ago.

    I was forced out by a sibling – who at the time was deflecting any attention from their own ‘coming out’. Denying it would have been an obvious lie, and I really felt it was no one’s fucking business – but I was cornered and came out in a fit of defensive anger. And now, my innately personal status was everybody’s fucking business. Yes, “queer” – used in the derogatory.

    I can’t imagine being a celebrity hunted by 10,000 foreign eyes all wanting to cash in on a gossip rag story – shredding privacy to a pulp. Somebody digging in my stuff for a knife to stick in my gut and rob me of what truly is MINE. But, what the hell? We’ve got gaydar now.

    It’s not like ‘gay’ is some fucking country club with a selection board who mandate requirements. I just think some days – we are our own worst enemy. I think we all too frequently use the ‘gay’ classification to identify and define the ‘who’s’ for strength and clout – and I get it that there was a time when we needed that. We don’t have to blend in, or disappear into the hillside – but we also don’t need to stand under the lamp on a street corner. We want folks to know that we work and hurt and raise kids and go broke and dream of touring Italy just like everybody else – but we want them to know, for sure, our sexual desires. In the meantime – we’re telling them to keep their fucking noses out of our bedrooms.

    I guess it boils down to me not judging anyone’s reason to come out. We already know there will be a shit storm heading their way – and ‘it gets better’ is all about AFTER the shit storm. Humans are such a confusing lot….

    • Do Something Nice

      If you can’t see that his ‘coming out’ is being used as some bizarre justification of his trying to hit on a minor, or worse, trying to distract attention from that behavior, there is something wrong with you.

      Spacey has had an entire lifetime to come out. Doing so now was a strategic, damage control decision.

    • Beagle

      The context is what bothers me. It seems like he’s trying to use coming out as a way to deflect the allegation that he molested a minor. It’s a cover up, and whether intended or not, tends to feed into the fears of hitting on the underage. Not to mention some poor word choices that could lead to the conclusion that he has chosen to be gay — feeding into another right-wing talking point.
      Compare that to coming out by, say, taking a male date to the 2017 Oscars show. We could shrug, think “Better late than never,” and move on.

      • netxtown

        I think looming much larger than ‘molesting a minor’ is the fast and sure fire destruction of being tagged ‘pedo’ – which definitely is a RW talking point.

        • Deviancy Behavir

          Given your logic if he would’ve come out and then said, I’ve tried to kill one person, because I was drunk, but I can’t remember anything else. The him being gay would be the biggest take away from this whole situation? Are you serious? Please stop trying to make this child molester into some kind of tortured individual. He came out as gay as a way to deflect from the reality that he tried to rape a teenager. He’s the one who did it, not anybody else.

    • From the Heartland

      You state: “I’m wondering what the response would be if even ONE of the RCC priests declared gayness” I have two issues with your statement. One, it’s not just RCC priests who have taken advantage of kids. Persons who are all sorts of authority figures to kids have done this. Second, saying, 20 years later, that it was because you’re gay is NEVER an excuse. I’d hope we be condemning these people as well. .

  • Charlie In SF

    Ick

  • pj

    he sucked at the tony awards.

    • Lars Littlefield

      How many? Was there a line of luminaries waiting their turn?

  • Ernest Endevor

    That revival of The Iceman Cometh closed Dec ’85. Precious Sons opened March ’86. The story in Buzzfeed presents the story as happening at a time when both plays were running together which didn’t happen. Too much about this story doesn’t make sense. This is one more aspect.

    • seant426

      You’ve got the wrong O’Neill play.

      • Ernest Endevor

        You’re absolutely right. It was Long Day’s Journey. I misread ibdb. And I saw a still of him with Peter Gallagher so that makes sense. So the dates do jibe. The only excuse I can offer is my deep and abiding hatred of the plays of Eugene O’Neill. Thanks for the correction.

  • BartmanLA

    His blaming intoxication for his actions in NO WAY excuses them, using his coming out to deflect from his actions is nothing more than a cowards way to shift the focus away from his ILLEGAL and terrible assault on a young person who had no control over the situation. I don’t give a shit if he’s now just “coming out” that doesn’t fly for me considering what he’s being accused of doing. I’m sure he thinks it’s “okay” because the statute of limitations has run out on the criminal charges. He just better hope no one else comes forward with accusations that are more recent and could land his ass in jail!

    • BartmanLA

      Also with all the furor over the #MeToo campaign and women speaking up (and some men too) this revelation against Spacey is just going to give more ammunition for the right to get on their soap box and start screaming about how all Gay men are predators and child molesters, giving them opportunities to continue rolling back hard fought for protections the LGBTQA community has worked long and hard for. Just you watch the crazies are going to come out of the woodwork in 3……2……….

      • Hitler News Network (FNC) will be sure to capitalize on the publicity and ignore the FACTS that shows a disproportionate % of pedophiles identify as STRAIGHT.

  • ETownCanuck

    Not to deflect form the horribleness of his actions, but what the hell was an unaccompanied 14 year old doing at this party in the first place. Why is the entertainment industry the only industry on earth that thinks it’s completely acceptable to treat children as adults, just because they have talent?

    • netxtown

      I’ve wondered that from the gitgo. And being it was a house full of alcohol guzzlers – would we even be hearing of this had the ‘perp’ been a woman? Which leads me to wonder if he (the younger guy) ever had ‘underage’ sex with any female ever?

      • Schlukitz

        Thank you for pointing out that double standard.

      • ETownCanuck

        The only parties I was ever allowed anywhere near at the age of 14 were family weddings where I was under the watchful eyes of my parents, aunts and uncles, grandparents, etc….Poor Drew Barrymore’s in the bathroom of Studio 54 doing blow with Warhol…

    • Schlukitz

      Age can be an arbitrary number for many.

      At the age of 14, I was already out on my own, holding a job down while continuing my high school studies and handling the duties of an adult…thanks to two parents who abandoned their “adult” responsibilities.

      • ETownCanuck

        You were thrust into that position through no fault of your own though. You had to do it because you had no other option, but do you feel that, at the time, you were emotionally equipped to deal with it?

        • Schlukitz

          Actually, I left of my own volition and considering the circumstances that I grew-up in with an alcoholic father and a verbally/physically abusive step-mother, I would do it all over again.

          Leaving home, for me at least, was liberating and allowed me to explore my gayness in a manner that would never have been possible had I remained in such a stifling, non-growth situation.

          By the age of 16, I was already in my first long-term relationship and loved my freedom to be the person I was born to be. I do not recall ever having any emotional problems with any of the decisions that I made at that age, including moving out. 🙂

          • ETownCanuck

            I suppose you’re right about the age thing being arbitrary. I think of my Grandfather in WWII, in the trenches in France fighting Nazis at 18. Then I think of myself at that age…I was spoiled, entitled, couldn’t do a thing for myself…I’d have likely curled up into a ball and died had I been drafted like he was. So I think that personally at 14 I also wouldn’t have been able to properly deal with drunken sexual advances by a much older man, but then again maybe I would be…fortunately I never had to test the theory.

  • pj

    announces this on manafort monday. what a clever gay.

  • Charles Nelson

    See…we told you that Gays were nothing but pedophiles (The Right).

    • katkelly57

      That’s exactly what I was thinking upon hearing the news….more fuel for the GOPEE fire.

  • religion is insane

    Coward and chicken

    • pablo

      Coward and chickenhawk.

  • foereel

    “I choose now to live life as a gay man”. So it really is a choice, then.

    • Lars Littlefield

      (cough . . . coffee goes up my nose) HAH!

  • From the Heartland

    It’s been an open secret for years that Spacey is gay. He shoudn’t blame alcohol for his coming on to a 14 year old.

  • This is NOT the first time we’ve heard about Spacey being a predator. He has already settled sexual harassment claims from theatrical productions where he was the producer. That was some time ago (but after 1986).

    Also, as late as this June, he was not only in the closet but participating in a Tony Awards skit about him being in the closet. No, he doesn’t get to come out now as a Hail Mary pass to save his lecherous ass. Application to the lbgt community DENIED.

  • kevin000

    So, was it “drunken behaviour” to invite a 14 year old boy to an adult drinking party and hide him in a bedroom?

  • boobert

    Spacey was wrong, but who knows for sure if he’s some sort of monster abuser of young men. The age of the victim is the worst thing. From what I read, there was a 26 yo man that carried a 14 yo boy to a bed and laid on top of him . Both had clothes on. There was no struggle, no rape, no murder! The kid got up and left. He wasn’t beat and forced to stay. If the other rumored charges were of a legal age, there’s nothing new here. The statements by Cory Feldman are a lot more serious and involve some powerful people.

  • Dom Saunders
  • MBear

    If i was 14 and Spacey was 26 and we were both drinking at a party, i would have flirted with him. If he was interested…?

    • Dom Saunders

      This isn’t a joke.

      • MBear

        …did i use the text colour for a joke?

    • BockMcMillan

      Well, it isn’t about what a 14 y.o. minor would do, but rather what the grown up and mature person must and should do in situations like that.

      • BobSF_94117

        When he’s blotto drunk…

        • BockMcMillan

          Yes, even then or actually even more then. Being drunk is no excuse for illegal and unsavory behavior.

          • BobSF_94117

            You seem utterly unaware of the effects of alcohol. Unsavory behavior is one of the reasons some people drink…

          • netxtown

            Agree. I have actually driven all the way home completely drunk. Once I thought i could pull off a snappy dance move by ricocheting off a short wall. I didn’t. And there was that time I tried to snap a large piece of dry timber while camping while drunk. The high end of the log came around and knocked me out cold. And of course, there was that time when my hubby (now X) was really fucked up and came swinging at me with a pair of kitchen knives….then cried like a crumpled pussy when the cops slapped his ass around. To this day – he has ZERO recollection of it. I don’t think illegal or unsavory were any part of his conversation with self.

            Alcohol brings out…..well it brings out some ‘thing’…..

      • MBear

        My comment was tangential. Your reply irrelevant

  • Nowhereman

    You don’t “choose” to be gay. You are gay or you are not. You DO choose to be a drunk and a pedophile though.

  • BaoPhac Do

    I’m sorry but f u Kevin Spacey for using this moment to come out. It’s too late anyways.

  • Deviancy Behavir

    For the few assholes on here who don’t see what’s wrong with Kevin Spacey trying to rape a teenaged Anthony Rapp at the age of 14yrs old, here’s a pic of Anthony Rapp during that time. Drunk or not, there’s not way in hell what he said or did is right, this was a child and he tried to prey on him. There is no excuse, there is no reasoning, he is a predator and the sooner people would get that the better. If this was you, would it be any less traumatic? Especially seeing the guy you looked up to had fun with trying to have sex with you in the same industry where he’s winning Oscars, Emmy’s and other awards and all the while you know what he did to you and is probably doing to other boys. There have been rumblings about him for years with young boys and for people to make excuses that nothing happened and he was drunk is disgusting and shows who you are. Stop making excuses for this, he tried to cover himself in being gay as a smokescreen to divert attention to him being a fucking child molester. Thank you Anthony Rapp for coming forward and being brave and honest. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ef781e735cad5b3c0b20583a82d3bbafaa6a26acb0206a177e832a82ca67a049.jpg

  • Ernest Endevor

    Last point: via a friend I’m reading on f’book from a couple of people who were there that night who say that this never happened. They’re also by no means exonerating Mr Spacey from other incidents and behaviors. They just say that this event did not take place. They’re also not bashing Mr Rapp. Also, I think the wording may be unfortunate, but I think that Mr. Spacey is saying that he is at last making the choice to live openly as a gay man. Which is different from what’s being criticized. And no, it’s not a great choice of words. And I would add, where the hell was Mr Rapp’s mother?

    • NowAnAgnostic

      My first thought also was “Where was this boy’s adult supervision?”

      • LesbianTippingHabits


        Yes, 14 years old means he should not have been there. Thank you.

  • JCF

    I am shocked, SHOCKED, that a creep who’d want to climb on top of a 14 year old, did not previously (when given approximately 3.9 billion chances) COME OUT as a self-affirming GAY MAN.

    https://mattsko.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/on-the-way-out-gif-501.gif

  • stanhope

    We’ve known about this nasty queen for eons. I agree with Zachary Quinto…how dare this pedophile c u n t tie coming out to something so vulgar. May she never get richard between her thighs ever again.

    • SinfulJosh

      Not a pedophile. sexual assault of a minor…. yes, but not pedophile.

      • seant426

        Splitting hairs. Sit the fuck down, creepy guy.

        • SinfulJosh

          Not splitting hairs… by labeling this is an act of pedophilia it only strengthens the anti-LGBT groups accusations that children are unsafe around us just because we are gay.

          There was a video that had an interview with one of the LGBT rights groups that i cant seem to find but an article on refinery29.com sums it up pretty well.

          http://www.refinery29.com/2017/10/178828/kevin-spacey-gay-coming-out-pedophilia-stigma

          Pedophilia has long been conflated with queer sexuality, especially for gay men, and was once used to keep gay people from being teachers or boy scout troop leaders or in other roles where they’d have authority over children. Though we seem to have mostly gotten away from this misconception — the number of Americans who believed gay people are dangerous to children dropped from 70% in 1970 to 19% in 1999 — LGBTQ people are worried Spacey’s coming out refuels this argument.

  • SinfulJosh

    I was corrected. Stupid internets and their age calculators got returning right age.

  • DaveMiller135

    OK, so Kevin Spacey comes out, at nearly 60, and NOW he wants to use, “Boy was I drunk [that] night.”???

    BTW, this is also an example of why people don’t believe in bisexuality. As DeeDee says in “The Opposite of Sex,” “Last stage of the American Bisexual: Total Mo.”

  • BobSF_94117

    Everyone criticizing Mr. Spacey with hyperbolic accusations and high outrage should be forced to attempt a response from him that would satisfy their own requirements. I bet none of them can do it.

    • seant426

      We wouldn’t have to. We’re not closeted drunken creepy predators. Now, go sit in the corner.

      • BobSF_94117

        I see you won’t take up the challenge.

        • LesbianTippingHabits


          Here’s a draft (short form):

          While I do not recall such an incident over three decades ago, I do not challenge Mr. Rapp’s account of the event.

          What I apparently did was wrong. I apologize, both to him and to the community.

          Sincerely, Kevin Spacey

          • BobSF_94117

            And what do you suppose the reaction would have been?

          • LesbianTippingHabits

            I don’t know as I haven’t been following the story closely. All I can say is that it’s never too late to do the right thing. Thank you.