GLAAD Blasts Kevin Spacey: Don’t Exploit Your Coming Out To Deflect From Allegations Of Unwanted Advances

The New York Daily News reports:

GLAAD called out Kevin Spacey for using his coming out as a way to distract from damning sexual assault allegations. Spacey, 58, announced on Twitter Sunday that he was choosing “to live as a gay man” in the same statement he used to apologize to actor Anthony Rapp for an alleged encounter when Rapp was just 14.

Sarah Kate Ellis – the LGBTQ advocacy organization’s president and CEO – did not mince words when it came to how she felt about Spacey’s decision to combine his apology with the shocking revelation of his sexuality.

“Coming out stories should not be used to deflect from allegations of sexual assault,” she wrote on Twitter. “This isn’t a coming out story about Spacey, but a story of survivorship by Anthony Rapp & those who speak out about unwanted sexual advances. The media and public should not gloss over that.”

  • Todd20036

    LBGTs contain their rogues too, but we call them out, unlike the Nazis.

    • safari

      Eventually. Kevin Spacey’s allegations were floating for decades.

      • Jean-Marc in Canada

        Honestly, I hadn’t heard of any allegations, though his being gay was obvious enough.

      • Judas Peckerwood

        I hadn’t heard either. Did they involve more than just Anthony Rapp?

        • Lazycrockett

          He hung around the Brian Singer crowd for a while.

          • Goodboy

            The only difference between Singer and Spacey is the legitimacy of their accuser. Still no shock they were in the same circle.

          • Scott Carpenter

            Googling Brian Singer (didn’t know who he was) led me to Marc Singer, and a memory that he starred in some of my younger dreams. Dreams of the moist variety.

          • Adam King
          • Scott Carpenter

            Mmmmm. I could tame the Beastmaster. Or die trying.

          • olandp

            Marc Singer was indeed beautiful, alas, time has not been kind. I miss Jon-Erik Hexum, of that vintage, but he will always remain young (20s) and beautiful.

          • Goodboy

            I remember me and my sister going to see him in that movie. I forget. I only remember him partially clothed through out it though.

          • RaygunsGoZap

            Making of a Make Model?

          • Goodboy

            The BEAST MASTER.

          • RaygunsGoZap

            I love that! God I best off so much to him

        • whollyfool

          Check out what Corey Feldman is saying.

      • CPT_Doom

        I’d heard he had a 25-year-old cap on sex partners, and that he’d moved to London because he had f*cked everyone in NY, but never anything about underage kids.

        • Blake Mason

          I think legal consent in the UK is 16? I stand to be corrected.

        • ChiTownGuy

          I was told many years ago that Spacey, Gus Van Sant, and a famous (now out) rocker, would often travel to a private location in Arizona for sex parties with underage boys. The person who informed me was a good friend to one of the three and the news ended their friendship. I often wondered how celebrities thought they could just violate young boys as though they were their play toys. It disgusted me then and am glad the truth is beginning to emerge.

          • Goodboy

            I always got the I love young boys creep vibe from Gus Van Sant.

          • Circle Thomas

            I hadn’t heard specifically about Arizona sex parties, but I had heard two decades ago that Spacey and Van Sant liked to troll for barely legal (and oftentimes, not legal) boys for sex from an associate of John Berendt, author of Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil. This was in the context of a conversation where I learned I was WAY “too old” to get Spacey’s attention. I was 23 at the time.

          • rico

            Takes two to tango!

          • Dazzer

            Again, not when one of them is 14

          • RaygunsGoZap

            Rape Fetishist.

          • emjayay

            Well, you know,“When you’re a star they let you do it. You can do anything.”

        • Dazzer

          While it was widely known in the worlds of arts, politics and general commentary in the UK that Spacey was gay and that he liked his men young, there’s never even been a rumour in that close-knit world that he liked his partners underage.

          Also, for what it’s worth, while he was in charge of the Old Vic (an incredibly respected and venerable theatre) there was never a suggestion that he ever employed a casting couch in making decisions as to who got what role.

          • Goodboy

            Apparently the rumors are all coming out though.

          • RaygunsGoZap

            It’s worth nothing. I rarely am impressed how rapists behave when they aren’t actively raping. This is no different.

          • Dazzer

            No one has accused Spacey of rape.

          • RaygunsGoZap

            Uh huh.

      • TK
        • Robincho

          That MacFarlane, he’s no dummy…

        • Jeffrey

          Family Guy called out Bryan Singer as well

      • FAEN

        I had heard he was in the closer but never that’s he pulled shit like that.

    • Jean-Marc in Canada

      Exactly. We don’t coddle them, we openly scold and rebuke them.

    • Dayglo

      We’ll boot ‘em out. He’ll join the ranks of Trump’s mentor and all around asshole Roy Cohn, who never once left his closet.

      • MichaelJ

        While there is no excuse for Spacey’s behavior since he’s been a public figure, to compare him with Cohn is totally unfair.

        Cohn worked to achieve power and took great pleasure in using ruthlessly to destroy lives of gay men and others, in the McCarthy era and beyond. Cohn was a master of dirty tricks, using them to go for the jugular of perceived enemies without regard for truth or morals, and with the believe that recognizing any of their own mistakes or wrongdoing is something only weak people do. Weakness was to something to be avoided at all costs.

        Is it any wonder he was a mentor to Trump? Among many articles on the their relationship: https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/06/donald-trump-roy-cohn-relationship

    • Goodboy

      Pedophiles aren’t part of the Gay community. When Spacey finds an actual adult the designation will change.

  • Boreal
    • Dayglo

      No more shopping at Barneys. It’s Kohl’s for you.

      • TexasBoy

        A fate worse than death.

      • Goodboy

        I’ll take Kohl’s over over the over priced shit Barney’s carries any day. I get your point though;)

  • Christ. Ew.

  • Xiao Ai: The Social Gadfly
  • SpecialAgentPecker FBI
  • liondon#iamnotatraitor

    Kevin, coming out as a pedophile is not the same as coming out as a gay man.. leave me and my family out of this. Jerk.

    • Do Something Nice

      What Spacey did was despicable, but as Anthony was 14 at the time, it isn’t pedophilia.

      • Xiao Ai: The Social Gadfly

        Pederast. 😉

      • IamSmartypants

        Don’t be pedantic. Yes, trying to coerce a 14 year old pubescent boy could technically be classified as ephebophilia (although Wikileaks sets the low end at 15), but Spacey tried to fuck a 14 year old. Whatever you call it, it’s underage, illegal, and despicable. And not gay.

        • Adam King

          11-14 is usually classed as “hebephilia.”

          • Adam King

            “Hebephilia is the strong and persistent adult sexual interest in pubescent (early adolescent) individuals, typically ages 11–14 (see the Tanner stage). It differs from ephebophilia, which is the strong and persistent sexual interest to those in later adolescence, approximately 15–19 years old, and from pedophilia, which is the primary or exclusive sexual attraction to prepubescent children.” (Per Wikipedia.)

        • Do Something Nice

          Words matter. It isn’t pedophilia. Maybe you missed the first sentence I wrote.

        • Strepsi

          It’s statutory rape, both illegal and immoral, but calling him a “pedophile” is both incorrect and harmful to all of us.

          • netxtown

            Thank you. but that is the shitty ‘choice’ he got stuck with. Pedo or gay (not straight). I’m not trying to make Spacey out to be a victim – but the kid’s public announcement put him on the spot. Does he come out and blend in drunkeness – or does he play straight into the hands of the RWNJ’s.

          • Do Something Nice

            Since there was no intercourse, in California it would have been ‘Lewd and Lascivious Conduct’ which can have more severe penalties than statutory rape.

        • netxtown

          I hadn’t heard that he actually tried to fuck the 14 year old. Where did that come from?

      • Goodboy

        That would work better if he was say 16. At 14 who cares. It’s way too damn young.

      • TrueWords

        Can we ALL agree that it is GROSS…no matter how you slice it and serve on the platter it is GROSS and it reeks of abuse both mental and physical.

        Also everyone in Hollywood has known for YEARS, DECADES, ETC…who these men were BUT now we are FINALLY hearing from the victims and it is time to listen with an open mind and not reap anything but compassion and ease upon these men and women!!!

  • Judas Peckerwood

    Good. Has anyone publicly defended Spacey?

    • Jean-Marc in Canada

      Not that I’ve seen, but the day is still young…oy, the loaded irony of that saying given the subject matter.

  • Jean-Marc in Canada

    I made my displeasure on this tactic known last night…

    https://twitter.com/sirlthr69/status/924886560276910080

    • Goodboy

      I think he thinks he’s still Frank Underwood. This is a acting job worthy of it.

      • Mike__in_Houston

        Or Richard III…

    • TrueWords

      This is disgusting.

      What a horrible, calculated PR move to try to deflect from the hurt he caused and the wrong he did.

      Spacey being gay is NO secret, really, so for him to try to leverage coming out…

      Ugh. Disgusting.

      https://media.giphy.com/media/FaFn2ooJgS7C0/200.gif

      • rico

        Why does everyone act so holier than thou about this? Yes, he made a very unfortunate mistake in judgement and I’m sure he’s not proud of it but let him deal w/ it. He doesn’t need the promiscuous gay community telling him what is moral and just.

        • David Reid

          Is that you Kevin? It is, isn’t it. Just got home from dog-walking have you?

        • TrueWords

          First of all…are you his PR manager…I mean seriously what is your deal, there are many gay men who are NOT doing this no matter their status in society (this is NOT about promiscuous behavior also thanks for calling us all “tramps”)….this is about preying on someone underage and as far as your STUPID AND SELF-SERVING comment:

          https://media.giphy.com/media/L20E2bh3ntSCc/giphy.gif

        • RaygunsGoZap

          You’re question seems to be: what is everyone’s problems with sexual assault of a child?

          And then, as if you think you’re slam dunking, you call gays immoral and unjust while invoking a nasty stereotype.

          You suck worse than your argument. And i guess you think child rape is ok?

        • wds

          I’m certainly 1) gay 2) NOT holier than thou 3) not promiscuous … here’s the bottom line – trying to use “coming out” (which was no surprise to anyone) as a cover/excuse for child molestation is really not acceptable and frankly pretty feeble. and “Let him deal with it”? He’s had a long time to “deal with it” … so, my suggestion is to get off YOUR holier than thou attitude about the gay community and be sure your brain is in gear before you engage your commenting …

        • Distingué Traces

          …And here we see once again how puritanical moralism not only does nothing to protect the vulnerable, but actively supports abusers over their victims — provided that those abusers are men in a position of power.

        • Ronald Reagan is Dead!

          There is nothing wrong with promiscuity as long as it’s consensual and your partner is legal age to consent.

        • MonochromeMouse

          It would have been one thing if he was drunk and flirted with a stranger at a party who then he later found out was underage but what Spacey did was force himself on a 14 year old who he knew well enough to have invited him to a party at his house.

  • bkmn

    Glad to see Trump, Manafort, Gates and Papadopolous are not getting all the attention.

  • Jean-Marc in Canada

    O/T

    Today in “Oh for Fuck’s sake”

    https://twitter.com/sirlthr69/status/925065178215002114

    • bkmn

      This sure reeks of Kellyanne Conjob’s spin

      • JWC

        speakin of “where the hell is Kelly Ann” she has been awfully subdued of late

        • bkmn

          Her lawyer/husband probably told her to STFU for once

          • Gustav2

            Especially since you don’t talk about FISA warrants.

        • OdieDenCO

          were I working in that White House, I would have gotten drunk starting Friday night, woke up Monday with the mother of all hang overs and had alcohol for breakfast

  • bkmn
    • Dayglo

      No, but priests do more than laypeople.

      • bobbybear.i.am

        I see what you did there.

  • Ninja0980

    As others have pointed out, he didn’t come out because of a tabloid story of him with another man or because he wanted to.
    He came out to try and deflect from the fact he tried to take advantage of a 14 year old.
    Shame on anyone who is applauding him.

  • I love dim sum

    Kevin Spacey has always been a total creep.

    I remember when his brother outed him in the late 90s to a journalist, and Kevin’s response was basically, “Look at how masculine I am, how could I be gay”. Yes, people in the late 90s were that backwards and uneducated that they bought that.

    And then about 10 years ago he got his phone robbed while taking a walk through Clapham Common, at 3 in the morning, because he had insomnia…..Everybody knows what Clapham Common is. LOL he is so dumb.

    I bet he’s a big blowhard Hillary supporter too.

    • Dazzer

      Just to be accurate, he was supposedly ‘mugged’ in the Imperial War Museum Gardens, which is nowhere near Clapham Common.

      Also, the Imperial War Museum Gardens isn’t a well known cruising ground.

      • I love dim sum

        I bet it is now.

        And that was my mistake, I thought it was Clapham Common.

        • Dazzer

          Nope. It’s still not.

    • The_Wretched

      Uh, all that just to speculatively tar Hillary? That’s a bit deranged don’t you think?

      • AmeriCanadian

        A troll by any other name is still a troll.

    • Dayglo

      Way to obsessively work Hillary into every fucking thing.

      • I love dim sum

        Says a lot about you that that’s the only thing you saw.

    • Do Something Nice

      Yes, because Hillary was the sexual predator’s candidate of choice in 2016. Or something.

      Fucking moron.

      • I love dim sum

        apparently it was, since she hangs out with Weinstein, Anthony Weiner, and her own husband.

        • Do Something Nice

          The former Sanders supporter just looked at your comment history. You are a troll and now I’ve blocked you.

          • I love dim sum

            I don’t support Sanders though, so you are wrong, since he proved himself to be controlled opposition and a sheepherder for the DNC.

            Sorry you are butthurt by facts.

    • BobSF_94117

      Spacey chose to protect his career in a way which we all wish he hadn’t. Hanging’s too good for him…

  • justmeeeee

    Wait…Kevin Spacey’s revelation that he is gay was “shocking?” The New York Daily News must be quite fragile!

  • Statistics Palin

    on a minor!

  • Texndoc

    I was reading the ABC News original tweet was so infuriating
    “Kevin Spacey comes out in emotional tweet” that the author had to take to the thread stating his editor changed the title despite his pleas. Now they’re doing all kinds of backtracking.
    http://sandrarose.com/2017/10/begins-abc-news-changes-black-reporters-headline-celebrate-kevin-spaceys-emotional-coming-story/

  • Ninja0980

    At one time or another, all of us who are LGBT have had to deal with the pedophile crap.
    Spacey doing this just gives all the bigots and people on the fence more ammo to hurt us.
    As I said last night, FUCK YOU KEVIN!

    • BobSF_94117

      And all those bigots say THANK YOU NINJA!!!

  • Judas Peckerwood

    Being gay isn’t a choice. Being a predator is.

  • TexasBoy

    I doubt Anthony Rapp seriously wants to see any punishment or blacklisting for Kevin Spacey. I mean, Anthony is openly gay, so why would he wait so long to mention the incident if he wanted some sort of punishment? The incident clearly should NOT have happened. But is was 32 years ago, and Spacey’s response is weird, using the accusation as a reason to come out. Did Rapp just want Spacey to be publicly outed?

    • CPT_Doom

      No he wanted to deal with the emotional trauma of being targeted as a kid in an adult environment he didn’t really understand. He also told people repeatedly about this, starting just a couple years later (confirmed in his story), including going to a lawyer but finding out he had no case.

    • Blake Mason

      I agree… Rapp was just lending his voice to the current discussion on sexual harassment in the entertainment industry. I think for Spacey to respond this way, sounds like he know he has a history of being in appropriate… minor or otherwise …. I remember the stories of him and the pool parties up in the Hollywood Hills with Brain Singer and the barely legal young men.

      • Goodboy

        Anyone who was hanging out with Singer at his boy parties was a creep and a pedophile.

      • BobSF_94117

        If he’s lending his voice to that discussion, he’s doing it a disservice. I don’t recall any female actors or assistants explaining that they holed up in the bedroom until after all the other guests left at a party they shoudn’t have been at without parental before the host made a drunken pass at them, and then did nothing when they left but escort them to the door and never took any form of retribution against them.

        Unless this was an example of “not me too”…

    • Dazzer

      Rapp first mentioned the incident in an interview with the Advocate in 2001. The published article didn’t use Spacey’s name.

      Whatever else is going on, Rapp has been consistent in his story for 16 years.

      • JohnAGJ

        When I first heard the story this morning, I only heard about the apology and not Spacey’s coming out. I was wondering what kind of reaction Rapp was hoping to inspire because the alleged behavior took place 32 years ago. I myself did some really stupid things when I was in my 20s I’m not proud of and have little to no memory of them now. Of course even in my most inebriated episodes, including those I didn’t remember even back then, I never hit on or assaulted a 14 year old boy. Your posting this here though makes Rapp’s reasons clearer to me, as well as lending some credibility to his story. He’s been sounding the alarm on Spacey for at least 16 years, but only now because of the Weinstein fallout are people actually listening. Hecck, Corey Feldman has been doing the same about pedophiles i Hollywood for even longer but he was largely ignored. I’m disgusted by what Spacey is said to have done as well as his trying to deflect attention from this by acknowledging what most folks already knew.

        • netxtown

          So what should Spacey have said? He didn’t cast any shade on Rapp. He didn’t vigorously deny, he didn’t plead ‘i don’t recall’. He let Rapp’s statement stand, apologized for his stupidity, and then affirmed he would be living as a gay man.
          I can’t help but wonder what the fuck else he should have said…

          • JohnAGJ

            He should have ended his statement after the first paragraph, which wasn’t the best in itself, and NOT tried to deflect attention away with his coming out in the second.

          • netxtown

            That was exactly my thoughts as well. But! There was the whole 14 y.o. /pedo in-the-background thing. IMO, he was pretty much forced to say something to shut down the sure-to-follow pedo moniker.Yes, affirming gay in a separate announcement would have been more presentable…but once you get tagged as pedo – it never goes away.

          • JohnAGJ

            Denying the charges or an apology should have been all he said at that this time.

          • CanuckDon

            Right….and then what would have happened is that everyone else would spend the next few weeks deflecting from Rapp’s statement with speculations and accusations about Spacey’s sexual orientation. Spacey, at least, saved himself (and the rest of us) from months of that. I don’t like what happened 32 years ago but I sure as hell would have hated the endless suspicion and surveillance that would have spiraled from this story had Spacey plead innocence.

          • JohnAGJ

            His silence for years have fueled such speculation. It doesn’t matter if the first part of his statement would have fed into it or not. It was still the absolute wrong time to come out and try and deflect away from the allegations raised.

    • Xiao Ai: The Social Gadfly

      Or, did Rapp want an apology and to bring the issue to light that males too are treated as sexual game in Hollywood? In any case, I believe Rapp and that’s what’s important.

    • BobSF_94117

      How could Spacey have responded without coming out? Seriously.

      • ClevelandJim

        And I think if he hadn’t added the official “I’m now out” the media would likely claim he was denying he’s gay, and running with that. I think he was (FINALLY) just trying to get that on the record. I don’t think he was trying to divert attention from Rapp’s charge. If that was his intent, he would’ve done the coming out in a totally separate release, not bundled with is response to the Rapp report.

      • TexasBoy

        Well, pretty easily I would think. The same way that Larry “toe tapper” Craig responded to his arrest in the airport restroom, simply deny he is gay.

  • Megrim Twist

    Never liked Spacey, never will. Always creepy.

    • TexasBoy

      I thought he did well in K*Pax. Other than that, not a big fan.

    • Dayglo

      I think he’s been a consistently fantastic actor … considering he’s a morally bankrupt reptile.

      • Neighbors always seem to like the guy next door when it comes out he’s a killer.
        The same can of course be said of rapists and pedophiles

        http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/chatterbox/1999/08/whats_wrong_with_the_neighbors.html

        What’s Wrong With the Neighbors?
        By David Plotz
        Your next-door neighbor just shot up a school/office/day-care center. Any comment?

        “I thought he was pretty nice … But then again, I knew that his beliefs were way out of line. They were good neighbors, but, well, I got blue eyes, so I guess that helps.”
        –Meda VanDyke on her neighbor, neo-Nazi murderer Buford Furrow

        “He used to say, ‘They’re watching me, through your satellite dish.’ I’d tell him, ‘No, no, Rusty, no, they aren’t watching you.’ I tried to convince him, but it made no difference … He was just a regular guy when he didn’t have this problem. Everybody said, ‘He’s harmless.’ ”
        –Ken Moore, on his neighbor, U.S. Capitol murderer Russell Weston

        “We figured they would have questioned him and let him go and eventually we forgot about it.”
        –Eric Anderson, neighbor of Atlanta mass murderer Mark Barton, on the murder of Barton’s first wife and mother-in-law several years earlier

        Pretty nice? Harmless? Forgot about it? Why, oh why, do the neighbors feel this compulsion to brush aside the dark side of the killer next door? If you just found out that nice man you saw trimming his lawn yesterday just mowed down some people, your first reaction would not be to relive the sweet memory of a friendly hello. Yet in that mass-murder ritual known as knocking on doors, the reporters never seem to get the gory quote. Instead, the next-door neighbors go on the record with comments that are naïve, foolish, and odd.

        It may be the neighbors are simply following the script. Thanks to television news culture, the neighbors have undoubtedly memorized what neighbors are supposed to say, (nice guy, kept to himself) and dredge that from the subconscious once they hear the knock.

        Jeffrey Dahmer’s neighbors, for example, told reporters: “He was shy, a little withdrawn. But not real bizarre,” and that, “he never bothered anyone.” (Anyone? What about all those people he killed?) According to his neighbors, Columbine killer Eric Harris was “a nice guy. Shy person, didn’t say much” and “a very nice, polite, clean-cut kid.” Furrow’s neighbors called him, “a very pleasant individual.” Barton’s neighbors saw him as “a typical American family man,” “a nice guy” who “kept to himself.”

        The most generous explanation is that the neighbors are demonstrating a warmhearted American optimism. They want to believe the best about the members of their imagined community. Barton’s neighbors knew he was suspected of savagely murdering his first wife, but they blocked that out. Furrow’s neighbors knew that he was a neo-Nazi, a member of the Aryan Nations, and a wife-beater, but they still considered him a “nice guy.” The neighbors of Jonesboro’s killer Andrew Golden wrote off the threats he made to other kids, the shots he fired at their houses, and the punches he threw at girls as just youthful high-spirits: After all, “He was a quick-to-wave, friendly boy.”

        The neighbors’ comments may also represent a kind of cover-your-ass legal defensiveness. No one wants to be blamed for not reporting a mass murderer. So even when killers are as peculiar as Furrow, Dahmer, or Ted Kaczynski, the neighbors make a Herculean effort to present their homicidal acquaintance as banal. Then they won’t seem like idiots for not noticing his villainy.

        This reached new and astonishing heights with Dahmer. Vernell and Pamela Bass lived in next door to Dahmer. As one paper reported, “Both Vernell and Pamela visited Dahmer’s apartment often. He always kept the bedroom [and closets] locked. He had a video camera attached to the ceiling, which recorded every move. Otherwise there was nothing strange, they said.” There wasn’t? They also noticed the stench of rotting meat from his apartment and they “heard sounds of sawing from his apartment day and night.” Downstairs neighbor Aaron Whiteheard said, “One night, I heard what sounded like a kid … He was crying like his mother had just walloped him. I heard a big falling sound … like he was being hurt.” Yet even after admitting all this, Dahmer’s neighbors insisted there was nothing odd about him, that he joined in neighborhood barbecues, that he was “like the average Joe.”

        The Unabomber’s neighbors said Kaczynski was hardly odd enough to worry them: “We’ve got other ones around here that act a lot farther out than he ever was.”

        But don’t blame the neighbors too much. Their trite comments say a lot more about the state of modern American neighborliness than they do about the neighbors themselves. Reporters rely on neighbors to flesh out the characters of killers, but what, really, do neighbors know? Ask yourself: What could you say about your closest neighbor?

        Some may blame neighborly ignorance on soulless, anomic suburbs, and indeed Barton, Klebold, and Harris were ciphers to the folks across the lawn. But Dahmer was a mystery to the folks in his downtown apartment building, and Kaczynski was an enigma to his neighbors in the country.

        No, the ignorance stems more from the very nature of neighborliness. Neighbors attribute decency to the killer next door because the standard of behavior required for being a good neighbor is so extremely low. Barton managed to wave hello from his car. Dahmer went a few times to apartment cookouts. Furrow once helped someone park a car. Almost anyone, even the most sociopathic of sociopaths, can get through the occasional interaction like that without seeming malevolent.

        Of course, not everyone fails to understand the killers in their midst. Those who genuinely knew America’s mass murderers have supplied the insight the neighbors missed. Even as the adults in the neighborhood were remembering Golden as “a beautiful young kid,” the children who played with him were describing his viciousness and rage. While the neighbors of Harris and Klebold smiled on them as clean-cut polite kids and assumed they were shattering glass for “some kind of art project,” their schoolmates knew they were into Nazism, idolized Hitler, and played with guns. They were rightly scared of Klebold and Harris: “They’re really really creepy.”

        Why did the classmates see what the neighbors didn’t? Because you can fake your way through a neighborly hello, but you can’t fake your way through life.

        • HozillaSmallpox

          I disagree with some of this article because I feel that many neighbors don’t want to appear nosy. Sometimes the less you know about your neighbors the better. I could honestly say I don’t know hardly any of my neighbors by anything other than a wave as they drive by. So if a reporter asked me I would say that person always waved to me.

    • William

      He gave me the heebie-jeebies in ‘A Time To Kill’.

  • JAKvirginia

    Y’know, like most people, my coming out was gradual and complicated. I was not the most savvy person and my first sexual encounter with anyone (a man) was at 22. And thank god because I couldn’t have handled it well any earlier. Now, I’m 65, and I have never found it right to make a move on anyone under age — and I don’t buy any “reason” for doing so.

    • Ninja0980

      Same here.
      Your job as the adult is to say know, even if they are the ones that push for it.

      • vorpal 😼

        Agreed. When I was 26, I had a very persistent 14 year old coming on to me for sex, which was within the age of consent for everything but sodomy in Canada at the time.

        I said an emphatic no.

        Even if you can do something by law, it doesn’t mean that you should.

        • Strepsi

          When I was 18 I came on to a 24 year old. I didn’t know I could squirt that far.

        • RaygunsGoZap

          When I was 24 I had a 16-year-old Jake Shears showing up to my work everyday and laying it on thick. I remember how shocked he was when I asked how old he was and how old he thought I was. I told him in no uncertain terms – not gonna happen. We became friends instead. My only regret is not holding onto the Madonna collage he made for me!

  • Lazycrockett

    Just FYI this is what Rapp looked like at 14.

    http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/45C0WfZEm8Y/hqdefault.jpg

    • JohnJay

      He looks like he could have played one of the Harry Potter Weasley brothers.

      • The_Wretched

        yes, all gingers look a like /eyeroll

        • Mikey

          it’s the soulless eyes.

    • Deviancy Behavir

      No that’s him more at 17 or 18 if I remember correctly, this was from Adventures in Babysitting. This is what he looked like when he was 14. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ef781e735cad5b3c0b20583a82d3bbafaa6a26acb0206a177e832a82ca67a049.jpg

      • Lazycrockett

        Okay that was the only young pic I could find and was cross referencing it with the years Babysitter came out, and that was earliest IMBD that was listed.

        • Deviancy Behavir

          That’s fine, I just don’t want people to try to make excuses because they think that’s how he looked at 14yrs old, even though it’s not an excuse. Some people have this thought that since he didn’t force him to have sex with him, it’s not that big of a deal. But it is a big deal, he was 14 and Spacey was 26 and in his drunken/child molester mind he looked at a young Anthony Rapp and wanted to sleep with him, that’s the point. I don’t care how drunk somebody is, they’re not going to look at a teenager and say, I want to sleep with them like that, doesn’t happen.

          • Reasonoverhate

            There is a lot that we just don’t know. Spacey acted inappropriately. Rapp was also in his bedroom and the last person at the party. Rapp was struggling with his sexuality, Spacey with his. Maybe Spacey picked up on that? Read something into Rapp’s actions? It’s still inappropriate behavior but are we going to crucify Spacey and ruin his life and career over it now? That seems to be the direction people around here are hellbent in going….

          • Deviancy Behavir

            This isn’t just some random action from Spacey, it was a violation of a teenager who was there to have some fun, but it turned into an assault. You give someone the benefit of the doubt if they’ve earned it, but Spacey hasn’t. This isn’t the first time someone has made an allegation about him. Two weeks before this a tv news reporter said that Spacey had hurt someone in her family and she was speaking out to say how much of a predator he was/is. This is just the latest in a long line of people who had things to say about Spacey. So this whole give him the benefit of the doubt thing is nonsense. You do that when it’s just a one time situation, but not multiple accusations all about the same thing.

          • Reasonoverhate

            That’s hearsay for now. We’ll see if the accuser makes a statement. The response is just completely overblown. This is not even close to the Weinstein abuse and damage he inflicted.

          • Deviancy Behavir

            You know you’re not making any sense don’t you? The Weinstein situation, other than Rose McGowan who was paid to keep quiet, none of the other women who “accused” Weinstein of rape and sexual assault have been paid to my knowledge. They’re just accusing him and here’s another thing for you to chew on, none of these women have had him arrested and charged with raping them, so it’s all hearsay as well. It hasn’t been a full 24 hours since this story broke, just wait, they’ll start coming out and admitting to what has been talked about and whispered. The same way they did it with Weinstein. It starts with one and then goes from there.

          • Dazzer

            I’m not contradicting you – just adding clarification. Several (but by no means a majority) women were paid off to keep quiet about Weinstein. Mostly they worked for the Weinstein company.

      • Goodboy

        Yikes.

  • teeveedub

    “… if I did behave then as he describes …”

    So, Kev, was mounting a 14-year-old fellow cast member such a common occurrence that you don’t even remember the specifics of this one instance? Or are you using the “Christ, was I drunk last night!” defense?

    • Lazycrockett

      Whichever saves his ass.

      • Xiao Ai: The Social Gadfly

        Throw it at the wall to see if it sticks defense.

    • Reasonoverhate

      Spacey was 27, closeted in the 1980s, and drunk at a party. I’m not making excuses for his behavior but c’mon……I survived my 20s as a semi-closeted gay man and if you asked me to recount the details of one of those parties……not a chance. And i’m only 39 now!

      • Jon Doh

        Me too, but I can say with certainty that nothing ever happened with a minor.

        • Lazycrockett

          This mansplaining is some horseshit.

          • IamSmartypants

            I certainly did some sexually aggressive shit when I was in my early 20s and sometimes when I was drunk. Certainly being a survivor of sexual abuse from age 8 – 11 contributed to my screwed up boundaries, but that excuses NOTHING I did back then. The critical difference is all of the guys I harassed were also adults and when my creepy fucked up behavior was called out, I got help and do my damndest not to perpetuate or allow abusive behavior. I’ve also tried to track down as many of the guys I could find and personally apologized for being a shitty person back then.

            Spacey has no excuse for what he did and trying to distract attention from his attempt to RAPE A 14 YEAR OLD by coming out is lower than low.

          • Dazzer

            Strictly speaking – legally, if not morally – Spacey did not attempt to rape Rapp.

            When Rapp said “No!”, Spacey desisted and Rapp left without further incident.

            I’m trying to be precise in language here.

          • Xiao Ai: The Social Gadfly

            You deserve a round of applause. Courageous, honest, personal.

          • Ron

            You need to read Rapp’s full account. This was not an attempted rape. Spacey’s actions, though inappropriate, re-enacted a scene Rapp played every night and it went no further. No attempt to undress, no erection, no sexual suggestion. Rapp himself labels it an attempted seduction only because he saw a picture of Spacey with his arms around another man.

      • Goodboy

        You should go to work for the Catholic Church.

      • Mike Thakar

        Me too EXCEPT at none of the parties I went to EVER had ANY 14 year-olds guests.

        • Reasonoverhate

          Same here. Rapp’s parents deserve some blame in the situation too.

          • Goodboy

            These parties are standard in the industry. Stop blaming the victims.

          • Reasonoverhate

            Calling him a “victim” is a REAL stretch.

          • Goodboy

            Not in the eyes of the law.

          • zherazhera

            His parents are not victims.

          • Goodboy

            I think if you were a parent you might feel different.

        • AltheaTheCat

          Right!? I’m known for making poor choices when I’m drunk, but they never involve minors.

      • teeveedub

        My objection isn’t with Spacey’s lack of recall. It’s with the fact that he assaulted a 14-year-old, against the 14-year-old’s will. Drunk, stone cold sober, high on crack – it doesn’t matter. He doesn’t get a free pass a) because he’s gay or b) because he was in the closet at the time.

  • Mr. M

    First of all, props to Anthony Rapp for speaking up. Just this weekend, my mom said in response to the whole Weinstein case, “Women just have to be more careful! Men don’t get raped!”. Suffice it to say, we got into a HEATED argument following that comment. It isn’t easy to be a man and say “I was sexually assaulted”, even more difficult to be a gay man and say it, and even MORE difficult to say you were a minor. So kudos to him on his bravery. As for Kevin Spacey, I’m really disappointed. The sexual assault is horrific enough, but then to try and cover by coming out, just one more blow. Awful.

    • BobSF_94117

      Could you try and present your idea of a statement from Spacey in these circumstances in which he would not come out? And what would be your reaction????

      • Mr. M

        Oh please. Kevin Spacey is nearly 60 years old. The ONLY opportunity he had to come out was when he was accused of sexual assault? HA!

  • Lazycrockett

    and who is Bryan Singer paying off???

  • JWC

    By no means am I supporting or condoning Mr Spaceys alleged actions.If he is responsible then pay the piper.However, this begs 2 questions.Who among us at a younger and drunker state have not commited some stupid act. Be it while driving intoxicated endangering the lives of othes or just being maudilan fools I dare say we have all been there. Secondly, and again, not remotely suggesting that I support sexual assault, but I would suggest after Bill Cosby, there has been a floodgate of allegatioms and accussations in this area.As they are brought to light and are substaniated, as they must be It sets a premise for ending this anti socail behaviour. I only caution here that we must be vigilant of any false narrative of a “get on the band wagon” for the sake of personal gratification.I think this exposure is the correct and only way to go but , a sense of caution also must be there

    • I love dim sum

      “Who among us at a younger and drunker state have not commited some stupid act.”

      Loads of people haven’t, speak for yourself.

      • The_Wretched

        why are you here?

        • I love dim sum

          Why are you?

        • Adam King

          I’m gratified to know I had good reason for blocking it.

          • Xiao Ai: The Social Gadfly

            Same here. I’ve seen it lurking on Breitnazi before.

    • Lazycrockett

      Rapp has talked bout this incident for years, and never got any traction in the press.

      • Special Agent FBl Bambino

        And many have collaborated the consistency of his story through out the 30 years.

    • Mr. M

      “Who among us at a younger and drunker state have not committed some stupid act.” – I’ve done it and had it done. I’ve been drunk at a gay bar and squeezed some guys ass and the same was done to me. That’s one thing (although still stupid and wrong). What Kevin Spacey did to a FOURTEEN year old (!!) is far different…

      • Natty Enquirer

        I tried that, too, and got a drink “accidentally” spilled all over me. Lesson learned. But it was another adult, not a minor. Some lines are too bright to be dulled by alcohol.

        • Mr. M

          Agreed.

      • JWC

        again I never said I condoned it

        • Mr. M

          I’m not saying you condone it, what I’m saying is not many people get drunk and carry a 14 year old to their bed…

          • BobSF_94117

            Not many drunk people find a 14yo sitting on a bed in their apartment watching TV after midnight. (I’m not suggesting Rapp was seeking sex, because he doesn’t say he was, but it wouldn’t be the most implausible idea a drunk 26yo might come up with.)

          • Mr. M

            So it’s the 14 year olds fault, not the 26 year old. Got it.

    • Do Something Nice

      Nobody I know would have tried to hit on a 14 year old, drunk or not.

      And it wasn’t sexual assault. As described by Anthony, it was a sexual advance.

      • JWC

        as I said I do not never did condone it

      • IamSmartypants

        A sexual advance is “I’m really attracted to you, would you be interested in sex?”

        Spacey physically picked up a 14 year old boy, threw him on a bed, then climbed on top of him. As soon as Spacey laid a hand on him, it became assault. Since Rapp was under the age of consent, it could also be classified as attempted statutory rape.

        • Do Something Nice

          You need to take a pill or something. I was using Rapp’s own words. Nowhere in that article does he call what happened a sexual assault.

          “Kevin Spacey Made A Sexual Advance Toward Me When I Was 14”

          I find what Spacey did to be despicable and I will probably never see another one of his movies. But let’s keep the conversation reality based.

      • Ron

        and Rapp says what Spacey did was essentially re-enact a scene from the play Rapp was in every night and playing the role of a boy picked up and fallen upon by a drunk man. That is a major detail IMHO

    • Special Agent FBl Bambino

      Stupidity does not involve a 26 year old attempting to have sex with a 14 year old.

      • JWC

        nor does being drunk but shit still happoens

        • Special Agent FBl Bambino

          Shit does happens when someone get drunk. Sexually assaulting someone let alone a minor is not one of those shit things that just happen.

    • Opinion Sousaphones

      I did not (do not) need to be drunk to be an idiot… been one many times, and, since I am not dead yet, I expect to have much to regret in the future. Fortunately, I have never been so drunk or idiotic that I would come on to a 14 year old, although a mere offer is not the most heinous of deeds. God knows, much worse is done to 14 year olds and it does not involve offers of sex.

      As a 14 year old, had I received the attentions of Mr. Spacey, I think I would have been pleased… me being gay and an idiot, and, at 14, incredibly horny. Still, I don’t think it would have been good for me. I remained a virgin until I was 21. I think that was for the best… managed to avoid HIV, at least, which was still largely unknown even when I was 21 although it was out there, so I was just lucky.

      Anyways, if any presumed adults are thinking of having sex with 14 year old boys, don’t… even if they are gay, even if they are very eager for it. It is too heady a thing to handle at that age… and, if you do not care about them, maybe care about yourself.

      • JWC

        I agree with you 100% but remember we do NOT speak for all

  • Mens Sana

    Having read Anthony Rapp’s account in the BuzzFeed interview, I’m not sure about how much “assault” took place. At the same time, from the perspective of 14-year-old, I’m not at all surprized that Spacey’s drunken approach was “unwanted.”

    • AmeriCanadian

      Why do you put the word unwanted in quotes? I don’t think that is open to interpretation.

      • BobSF_94117

        English needs a new form of punctuation for air quotes. Using quotation marks to refer to a word that was actually used is entirely appropriate and correct.

    • Reasonoverhate

      Exactly. My fear is that these words will lose their power. It seems we’re walking down, or more like racing down, a path where anything from flirting to inappropriate behavior is “Assault.” I was once shoved up against a wall by a man much larger and drunker than I was as he was groping me and trying to make out with me. I shoved him off and reiterated I was NOT interested and moved on. He acted inappropriately and I ended the situation. I don’t consider that assault and I’m certainly not going to publicly name him some 15 years later.

      • Do Something Nice

        Anthony clearly stated it was an unwanted ‘sexual advance.’ That said, just because you ‘recovered’ doesn’t mean that everyone does. I suspect it is was an issue of trust being broken and being objectified that was shocking the the 14 year old Anthony, who was probably seeking friendship and mentoring.

        • Reasonoverhate

          Then his parents need to be held responsible too. What is a 14 y/o doing at an adult party where alcohol is being served? If anything maybe these stories will make parents be more involved in their child star’s careers.

          • Do Something Nice

            Because a 14 year old would never lie to their parents about where he is going. I know that I did – quite often. But none of this changes that what Spacey did was wrong. He is a creep for trying to have sex with someone 14 and vulnerable.

  • bobbyjoe

    [ring, ring]

    Kevin Spacey: Hello?

    Donald Trump: Hi, Kevin, Donald Trump here. Look, I’ve been trying to distract everybody from my Russian collusion with Hillary Clinton this and Hillary Clinton that and it just doesn’t seem to be working. How’s that announcing you’re gay going? At this point, I’ll try anything.

    Kevin Spacey: Not so well actually. Hey, now that I think of it, do you think I should try and claim that Hillary Clinton molested Anthony Rapp?

  • aagold76 .

    It’s good to hear GLAAD taking this line…I half expected them to give Spacey a courage award for FINALLY coming out- they seem to do that every year.

    • TuuxKabin

      hrc will have a gala for the event.

      • Adam King

        They’ll debut a brand new equal sign in special colors just for the occasion.

        • TuuxKabin

          The color(s) of money.

      • Goodboy

        Advocate has already come up with the new man of the year cover.

  • drtrmiller

    A CNN article says Spacey was 26 at the time. The behavior Rapp describes, while beyond inappropriate, does not appear to be criminal sexual assault/battery, even given Rapp’s then status as a minor. Everything is based on an interpretation of non-criminal conduct being recounted after over 30 years when the complainant was 14 at the time of the event. I just don’t understand how Rapp thought it a good idea to take these allegations to the press in the wake of an actual criminal cover-up involving Weinstein. Rapp should have gone to Spacey directly, but instead chose to make a mountain out of a mole hill. And because of our victim-glorifying culture, and Spacey’s ill-timed decision to address these allegations at the same time as coming out, he’ll be cannibalized by everyone here. The next allegations will be from some actor or actress who will say they received unwanted eye contact. Where does it end?

    • Dazzer

      Rapp first made these accusations publicly in 2001. It was an article in The Advocate and at the time Spacey wasn’t named.

      Rapp hasn’t changed his story in all these years.

      • drtrmiller

        Then it’s even worse now to bring up allegations of non-criminal conduct. In my view, Rapp brought them up now to cause the most damage to Spacey.

        • Dazzer

          If Rapp is telling the truth when he says the incident did him considerable mental and emotional damage that hasn’t healed, he’s entitled to tell his story whenever he wants.

          • drtrmiller

            It just sounds like something that should have been resolved privately. Going public in light of Weinstein makes it appear as if Rapp is attempting to draw a meaningful comparison between Spacey and Weinstein, when clearly there is not.

          • Marrena

            from what I hear, there is a meaningful comparison.

          • TrollopeFan

            I need to stop reading these comments from defenders of Spacey (and implicit attackers of Rapp). Thank you for your comment. My rage is about to boil over and so it’s time to close the computer. Thank you for not being a defender of sexual abusers. There are a few people on threads today whom I rarely see, but whom I now know to avoid.

    • Natty Enquirer

      Climbing on top of someone without consent is at least battery, a criminal offense. If there is erotic intent, it becomes sexual battery.

      • drtrmiller

        The thing about memories is that details don’t improve with age. In my view, Rapp’s allegations neither meet the criteria for sexual assault nor sexual battery. Ultimately, each state will have their own definitions of those statutes. Simple battery, sure. But there’s no way I’m trusting the 30-year old memories of a teen to identify the intent of a drunken 26-year old theatrical co-worker. Unlike accountants or HR folks, cast members in entertainment touch one another a lot. It would be easy to misinterpret innocently intended, albeit inappropriate behavior as unwanted sexual advances.

        • Steven H

          In my jurisdiction (DC), what Rapp is describing is sexual assault. Period.

          Legally, the statute of limitations expired a long time ago, but the feeling of helplessness and betrayal that sexual assault causes has no statute of limitations.

    • Special Agent FBl Bambino

      Mountain out of a mole hill? Anyone who had been sexually assaulted carry a life time of scar that continues to do damage to his/her self esteem in addition to difficulty of forming positive relationship. The ability to trust someone is permanently destroy for many. The experience does not go away unlike the perpetrators who can just move on to his next victim.

    • worstcultever

      “victim-glorifying culture”

      HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

      sure Jan

    • fuow

      So, blame the victim?

      • drtrmiller

        What victim? Rapp has had a very successful career and the worst thing that ever happened to him was drunk 26 year old Kevin Spacey fell on top of him in bed, after which Rapp left the room? The threshold by which someone gets to call themselves a victim is becoming less and less.

        • Mr. M

          I can see what you’re saying.

        • Reasonoverhate

          Exactly! We can condemn the inappropriate behavior without turning Rapp into a victim or Spacey into a pedophile monster.

        • Do Something Nice

          Did you bother to read the article? Rapp was traumatized by the encounter. He was a victim of unwanted sexual attention from someone who was older and more powerful in every aspect.

          You don’t get to decide if Rapp is or is not a victim. Only Rapp gets to decide that.

          • drtrmiller

            I read the CNN article. Rapp is entitled to his own feelings, but I think for others to call him a victim based on the events he described is making a mockery of actual victims of sexual abuse.

  • Lazycrockett
    • bobbyjoe

      I’m doing it wrong. Last time I was drunk, I downloaded Alf, screamed “The Covenant!” In somebody’s face, and changed my Grindr pic to Carly Rae Jepsen.

      • M Jackson

        I may have to replace my keyboard after the coffee spit-take you just caused.

      • Strepsi

        Call me.
        Maybe.

  • It’s Mueller Time!

    Am I alone in always thinking Spacey was creepy as shit?

    • I love dim sum

      I’ve always thought he was incredibly gross too.

    • FAEN

      I never thought he was creepy myself but to each his own.

  • FAEN

    So disappointed and disgusted with Spacey. I have been a fan of his for a LONG time and while it pissed me off that he wouldn’t come out I gave him a pass because he wasn’t being anti gay like so many closeted Republicans. Clearly I was wrong.

    • Reality.Bites

      It was pretty much exactly what I expected from someone who’s been playing coy for 30 years.

  • June Gordon

    Kevin must have turned down their invite to a cocktail party to honor him.

    • Lars Littlefield

      Meow! (110% Lars approved)

  • Publius

    Quite. He’s attempted to manipulate the gay community into rallying around him, calling him brave, and defending him as a way of deflecting. He has some explaining to do for his actions, and that explaining should be done apart from his announcement that he’s gay.

  • Tommy

    From what I have read, he seems to be an extremely promiscuous guy. That’s relevant. When you live life with the idea that sex is nothing more than a handshake with strangers — scores and scores and hundreds of strangers — it’s just one small step to overlook it if the next body you want to use is a few years below the age of consent. Not to say that all promiscuous guys would hump a kid, but the general attitude that sex is just something you do with strangers rather than an expression of love within a relationship, would tend to facilitate this kind of misconduct.

    • Do Something Nice

      Tommy, that is nonsense. I know hundreds of men who were ‘extremely promiscuous’ and I was for a few years too. And none wanted to have sex with a minor, period.

      And I’m sure there are NAMBLA types who believe that their relationship is what makes sex with a minor OK, when it is not.

    • HZ81

      As someone who enjoys casual sex with different partners, I’ve never been unable to control myself around minors.

      The idea that the only meaningful sex is the sex you have in a relationship—to me—is nauseating and archaic. Again, that’s me and my humble O.

      Being coupled doesn’t automatically make you a better person, and not everyone believes being in a relationship is necessarily natural or even normal for them.

      • netxtown

        fortunately, science indicates multiple partners is better. this ’till death do we part’ is a religious ritual.

        • HZ81

          Phew. 😉

          I spent far too much time relationship hunting, and the one place I’ve never felt comfortable in life is in a relationship. I am not against one, either, should one come by, but the idea I am not whole (not that Tommy is saying that, but) just bugs the fuck out of me.

          • netxtown

            I know what you mean about the “whole” issue. For whatever the reasons, a long lasting relationship has not been in my set of cards. And now, at 62, maybe that’s the way its supposed to be. But then, there’s that nagging voice blathering away about ‘for better or worse, in sickness and health’…..

          • HZ81

            Ha, I hear that voice, too. It usually shows up when It’s raining and I don’t want to go to the store or I need a ride. 🙂 Go figure.

      • Tommy

        None of that has anything to do with my point. When you have, say, 1000 people who each have sex with hundreds of strangers on an assembly line, they are more likely to cross lines like Spacey did than 1000 people who have sex with one person in the context of a relationship.

        That’s the point. However, since you bring it up, all else being equal, people who integrate sex, love and commitment are better people than those who don’t. If that makes you nauseous, so be it.

        • Dazzer

          Patronising much?

          I bet even your imaginary friends find a reason to ignore you at parties.

        • HZ81

          Thank you for your self-righteous bullshit, absent any supporting facts or evidence. Nauseous, indeed.

  • bear on the peaks

    How quick people are to judge! Kevin Spacey grew up in a time when being gay was taboo, when to “come out” meant to lose your job, your family. I remember when people thought that being gay meant a certain and cruel early death. What’s with all this shaming coming from people so quick to judge. Everyday another media witch hunt.

    • Lazycrockett

      Gay has nothing to do with creeping on a 14 year old BOY.

    • Mr. M

      When you come out of the closet in response to being accused of sexually assaulting a minor, yeah. You’re gunna get some rightfully earned judgement.

      • Cucker “Dick” Tarlson

        RIGHT.

        “Oh, yeah… I might have got drunk and seriously went after a minor.

        Also, I’m gay.”

        If that doesn’t sit well with us here (it sure doesn’t sit well with me), imagine what the good folks of Tugbuckle, WV think. Boom. We’re pedos again, dammit.

        • Mr. M

          Well, no amount of exposure will ever convince certain people that gays are nothing more than child molesters.

        • MBear

          If the actions of one person judges an entire community, then judgements of the residents of Tugbuckle, WV are the least of our worries

    • stevenj

      The modern gay rights movement began just 10 years after Spacey was born. By the time he was in his late teens/early 20’s gay liberation was in full bloom. You’re talking about the generation before Spacey (and me) and generations before that. Do you think over the last 30+ years with the career he’s had (and with 2 Oscars) that his colleagues did not know he was gay?

      BTW, we can get married legally in all 50 states but in about half of them still in 2017 you can be fired from your job based on your sexual orientation (whether you are an actor or not) and in even more states because of gender identity.

      For Spacey to finally come out because of this allegation seems like very poor timing. The homo haters have another reason to believe gay men are lecherous around teenage boys.

  • netxtown

    So what’s next for the kid? He told this story 16 years ago to the Advocate – and now claims that seeing Spacey in some movie just set him off. And when the next movie comes along? What then?

    The more i read, the more the kid is pissing me off – a second time. Spacey done shit in his messkit – but you can’t tell me a 46 year old gay guy doesn’t know the impact to the gay community of broadcasting a 30 year old, twice told story.

    Sorry – I’m starting to see an attention whore needing some bounce in their career.

    • Lazycrockett

      At the moment Rapp is starring in the new Star Trek show which has just been renewed for a 2nd season. He is bouncing just fine.

      • netxtown

        So was this his ‘fuck you’ to Spacey?

        • Deviancy Behavir

          You really are a special kind of ignorant. This happened in the 80’s when Anthony Rapp was 14 and Kevin Spacey was 26. He was a kid then, but now he’s a grownup and if you had read the buzzfeed article you would know that Rapp had told this story for years, not just in 2001. He wanted people to know who Spacey was and to stay away from him and that the lawyer he went to told him he didn’t have a case, so it wasn’t going to work in courts, but he still had to say something. So stop making excuses. Anthony Rapp has a huge film/tv/broadway career that is longer than most people’s arms, he’s not doing this for attention. It’s pitiful to have you think otherwise though.

          • netxtown

            I like how you lead off with the insults. Maybe you might try something other than group think. Oh, I did read the Buzzfeed.

            Rapp told his story to the Advocate. WHY did the Advocate NOT identify Spacey when they admit they knew it was Spacey??? Where is the scorn for the failures of the Advocate?? How many others might hve been subjected to harm because the editor didn’t want to publish Spacey’s name? yes – the advocate. NO voice of the gay community.

            Rapp admits he has never contacted Spacey in any manner since then. But surely – this attempted molestation must surely stand out in Spacey’s memories for 30+ years? Do YOU remember everybody you fucked or sucked from 30+years ago??? How about the ones that got away? Remember them???

            Rapp indicates in his story he thought Spacey was drunk. But folks here are condemning the use of ‘drunk’ as an excuse in Spacey’s statement. Spacey did not deny. He took Rapp’s statement at face value.

            No we wont be holding a candlelight vigil, and Spacey has his own ‘stuff’ to now deal with. But gawddamn – we bleat about the xtians wanting us dead….well, mirror, mirror!
            And what the fuck do you think Spacey should have said? How DO you respond to the accusation of molestation?? He didn’t deny. He apologized for it. And still – he’s wrong. With the hysteria queens running rampant around here with their holier than thou morality sparklers – the guy might as well just off himself. He can’t apologize. he can’t admit. What the fuck? Sounds like a fucking republican denigrating the ACA – but not one fucking word of fucking remedy. Don’t know about you – but i’ll be damned before i adopt their shitty ways.

          • Deviancy Behavir

            I led with an insult, because you insulted everyone’s intelligence with what you said. It must hurt to know that nobody believes what you’re trying to sell us and that’s it’s complete B.S. Now you’re like people who shall be forgotten are BLOCKED!

          • netxtown

            Funny – if I insulted everyone’s intelligence – then why are you the only one slinging mud? I guess all the others just aren’t as smart as you.

          • Marrena

            I’ll sling mud…rumors about Spacey with underaged boys, plural, have been floating around for years. I’m glad that one of his victims is using his fame to protect those who don’t have that power.

          • TrollopeFan

            I also think you are a piece of shi”t and kindly request you to FO.

          • netxtown

            WoW! I see that any discourse other than 100% full bonafide scorched earth kill the fucking fag isnt OK. Such toxic petty queens.

          • netxtown

            well please do race for the block. Ironic – deviancy behavir condemning deviant behavior…or is that just for appearance sake?

          • Ernest Endevor

            Couldn’t agree more. Spacey passed out. He’s not proud of it. And it seems he’s pretty well known for bad behavior. Often with younger guys. But a guy I’ve been reading on f’book who was at that party is calling bullshit. What I find interesting is that the people I know who are defending Spacey don’t have much that’s good to say about him while, sometimes, being fond of him. One detail: apparently his apartment was tiny. I’m greatly saddened by all this and by the extraordinary reaction to it. The buzzfeed piece was written by a friend of Rapp’s and nothing about the behavior described makes sense to me. It seems that Spacey is being blamed for not having come out sooner, and Rapp is claiming the mantle of victimhood surrounding the victims of Weinstein.

          • netxtown

            well, as you can tell, you go with the mainstream hysteria – or you get called names, cussed at, and blocked. And we thought donnie was the temperamental child…

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  • Richard B

    Kevin Spacey’s publicist truly failed him with that piss poor pedophilia-hebephilia apology and coming out announcement – so crudely done.
    Kevin Spacey needs to use his money to hire better advisors and redo the apology over again.
    The religious haters, like the hateful Tony Perkins of the Family Research Council, who have long fought against LGBTQ rights, uses the potent, but false stereotype that most gay men are child molesters that are looking to recruit your teenage boys and turn them gay. This inflammatory fable is factually untrue, and scientific researchers who look at this abnormality have concluded such molestations are indeed very uncommon. A teenage boy is more likely to be molested by a straight person vs a gay male.
    Never the less, an unfortunate incident like this just reinforces a false stereotype that we have all sought to discredit. Keep in mind, Kevin Spacey did not actually molest Anthony Rapp when he was 14, he propositioned him, and those advances were rebuffed by Rapp. It was rude and improper and no doubt upsetting to Anthony Rapp, but nothing happened.
    Kevin Spacey owes Anthony Rapp a more thoughtful and powerful apology than was originally pitched and at this point, he owes an apology to the LGBTQ community, that he just openly admitted he was a member of.

    • James

      Rude and improper and very likely illegal.

  • Ron

    I’ve read the Rapp’s full account of the incident in Buzzfeed, and I’m not so sure we should be so quick to label this as sexual assault. According to Rapp, what Spacey did was basically re-enact a scene from the play that Rapp was in at the time. Yes the scene had some sexual overtones as the character in the play picks up Rapp thinking he is someone else and falls on him as he describes Spacey doing. But is this sexual assault?

    1) Was the behavior by Spacey unwanted? Yes.
    2) Did Spacey (according to Rapp) touch him inappropriately, kiss him, or make any sexual advance other than falling on him as the character the play did? No. Rapp made a connection that Spacey was gay and wanted to get with him because he saw a picture of Spacey with his arms around another man.
    3) Did Spacey suggest sexual activity? No
    4) When Rapp got up to leave did Spacey physically try to stop him? No, though he did ask him ” Do you really want to leave?”
    5) Did Spacey “groom,” lure, or show particular attention to Rapp during the party to suggest he was flirting or planning a sexual encounter? Did he try to get him drunk to take advantage? No. In fact Rapp said he was so bored at the party that he went into the bedroom himself to watch TV.
    6) Did Spacey threaten Rapp or suggest he better not tell? No
    7) Was this Spacey’s MO and have others been also assaulted? We don’t know.
    8) Was this inappropriate for a 26 year old to do with a 14 year old? Yes. However, this was a scene Rapp played every night as a 14 year old.

    So this is not exactly Harvey Wienstein behavior. Its too bad Spacey came out this way. But given Rapp’s own account, it is possible that Spacey really doesn’t recall the event and wasn’t trying to sexually assault him. It’s also too bad that Rapp did not get counseling at the time to help him deal with this issue.

    • Ernest Endevor

      I know of a purple of reliable people who were at that party who say that none of that took place. And they’re far from being apologists for Mr Spacey.

  • SDG

    Wow, GLAAD did something other than just throw a party! Hurah.