EGYPT: Parliament Moves To Criminalize Homosexuality

Pink Sixty reports:

MP Ryad Abdel Sattar [photo] on Wednesday introduced to the parliament’s speaker Ali Abdel Aal a draft law entailing five main articles of the criminalisation of homosexuality.

The draft law would pave the way for strict punitive measures against the LGBT community in Egypt, in addition to restricting the presence of LGBT People inside Egyptian society, Abdel Sattar said in media statements dedicated to local outlets.

The ‘Criminalisation of Homosexuality’ law has received approval from a number of the parliament’s members who asserted their readiness to approve it — the draft law is expected to be discussed inside the parliament after being reviewed by the speaker Ali Abdel Aal.

Egypt Independent reports:

The first article defines homosexuality as any person engaging in sexual intercourse with someone of the same sex.

The second article clarified that any person engaging in homosexuality in a public or private place should be subjected to punitive action that should be no less than one-year and not exceeding three years in jail. It added that in case those jailed homosexual people repeated having sex after being freed, then the punitive action should be five years in jail.

The third article highlighted that any “supporter” of homosexuality or someone who calls for the acceptance of homosexuality, even if he or she is not a “practitioner of homosexuality,” should be jailed for no less than one year or no more than three years.

The fourth article paid attention to media coverage to parties organized by homosexual people, stipulating that any representatives of the media that “promotes” LGBT parties would be jailed for three years.

The New Arab reports:

The move comes after an open-air concert in Cairo on September 22 by Lebanese band Mashrou’ Leila, when the flag representing the lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender community was raised.

Pictures of the incident were shared widely on social media, leading to a public backlash and discussions on prime time television with many calling for those involved to be punished. Since then nearly 70 people have been arrested, and more than 20 have been handed sentences ranging from six months to six years.

  • netxtown

    it’s not homosexuality if you’re an office holder and just get a BJ….. /S

  • j.martindale

    The Trump administration will certainly applaud this barbarism.

    • Rex

      Expecting a Trump Tweet proclaiming his wonderful leadership in Egypt.

      • Snarkaholic

        Followed by a tweet from the Jenner Jerk, expressing shock that Chump’s not reeeeally an ally.

      • EastCoastJ

        But…if Trump criticizes Egypt you’ll call him Islamophobic.

    • joeyj1220

      or engage in “See? At least we’re not like them!”

    • Frostbite

      Well maybe they all can pack their bags and move there.

    • EastCoastJ

      No…but most gays won’t stop their high praise of Is-LAM and espousing more and more Muslims entering the west. Remember Hillary Cinton during the debates, “Islam is not our enemy-y-y-y-y!!” Another reason most gay voters went for her.

      • j.martindale

        go fuck yourself troll.

        • EastCoastJ

          Aww…don’t worry. She didn’t win (luckily).

          • j.martindale

            Blocked.

          • EastCoastJ

            run and hide

  • canoebum

    For a country whose economy depends so heavily on tourism this will impoverish an already poor population. Not only will no LGBT people travel there, but their friends, families and supporters will shun Egypt as well. Smooth move idiots.

    • boatboy_srq

      Bitter in their righteous poverty.

      Sounds like Alabama.

      • geoffalnutt

        Wherever you have religious zealots you have this.

        • EastCoastJ

          But in Muslim countries the mainstream people are what we in the west consider zealots. That’s the difference.

      • Nic Peterson

        Al-Abama?

    • Dazzer

      Egypt’s tourist industry is already in the toilet. In most Western countries, you can’t get insurance if you travel there.

      I reckon that these extremists believe they have nothing left to lose.

      It’s a great pity because Egypt is a fascinating and amazingly beautiful country.

      • canoebum

        The massacre at Luxor in 1997 scratched Egypt off my list permanently. As a gay man, I will never visit an Muslim majority country. It’s just too big a risk, not from terrorists, but from the police.

        • Strepsi

          My husband and I went there (including Luxor) in 2008, and it was amazing –– BUT we told our guides and hotel staff that our wives were on a separate vacation shopping in New York (100% acceptance of this story). The Muslim guides kept trying (yearningly, jealously, covetously) to take us to strip clubs. They HATE the West, but they WANT the West. But would I go there after the Muslim Brotherhood took over? No.

          I never understood the North American media’s glee at the toppling of “dictator” Mubarak, a secular strongman was the only thing stopping Egypt from becoming the Islamist hellhole it rapidly is.

          • CottonBlimp

            I remember religious liberals telling me the “Muslim Brotherhood” was nothing to worry about, they were moderates who were just using Islam to organize.

            How many times does it need to be shouted, how many ways does it need to be proven, religion poisons everything! If a Christian Brotherhood happens here I don’t care how liberal they pretend to be, DO NOT FUCKING TRUST.

          • EastCoastJ

            Islam poisons everything. Don’t equate Islam with Buddhism, Hinduism, Christianity, Judaism, Paganism…etc. It’s time to stop pretending.

          • CottonBlimp

            Buddhists are committing genocide at this very moment in Myanmar, but you haven’t heard about it because the victims are Muslims.

            Your commitment to place Islam as somehow unique among religions for its barbarism is nothing but dumb bigotry.

          • EastCoastJ

            I have a complete commitment to show how Islam is totally unique as far as barbarity goes and especially barbarity against gays. Stop pretending or…you’ll be going down faster than your Hindenburg.

          • EastCoastJ

            And to test your theory, why don’t you hold an art gallery showing of illustrations of Christ, Buddha, Moses, Vishnu, Thor, Confucius and Mohammad all having gay sex. Let’s see which religion sends the gunmen to blow the place to pieces.

          • CottonBlimp

            And how many of the people who shot up abortion clinics were Muslim?

            Your selective outrage is despicable.

          • EastCoastJ

            Oh no! Some abortion clinics were shot up ! You’re so right! That’s equal to killing over cartoons!

          • EastCoastJ

            How many majority Christian countries (even ultra-Catholic Argentina and Malta) allow same-sex marriage, and how many Muslim-majority countries do ? Do you think the problem with you is that you can’t admit the Muslims you brought into the west have only brought us closer to a homophobic nightmare ? What other religious minority in the U.S. has tried to mass murder gays five times over ?? Could you IMAGINE if their numbers increased as much as the Clintons had planned ?

          • EastCoastJ

            Next we’ll tak about your Muslims that took over the Bataclan Theatre in Paris that night. You do know the ways the hostages were murdered, right ? (And some of the hostage-takers were refugees).

          • PRW

            That will be the Christians, more numerous and more easily able to get guns and evade serious police opposition.

          • EastCoastJ

            No…it hasn’t been Christians yet. Both times it was Muslims.

          • EastCoastJ

            With Charlie Hebdo in Paris it was Muslims (and that was a magazine that made fun of Jesus too, and all religions…. And in Garland, Texas, but fortunately the cops were able to take out the gunmen before they got into the art gallery..

          • Hindsight is 20/20. They did have democracy for maybe a year even if the guy was religious, which held hope for a better future though elections.

            Ironically, now that they’re back to strongman rule, they’re getting religion anyway. I didn’t expect much good from al-Sisi considering the way he seized power.

      • iambu

        I visited in 2008. It is indeed amazingly beautiful and I’m sad I may never go back. But not as sad as I am that Egypt’s legislature’s pathetic cowardice is gonna result in a lot of horror…

    • The_Wretched

      And anyone who wants safety. When the prohibitions start piling up, it’s a flag that the place isn’t safe.

    • LBGT people have been traveling to Egypt recently? I only know one person who still goes to the middle east and he does so on a state department visa so no one is going to fuck with him. Otherwise, no. Too bad. I would love to see the pyramids and such, but I just wouldn’t feel safe there. I feel the same way about St Petersburg. I would love to travel there but I’m not gonna.

    • Keith

      There seems a lot f stupid about these days.

  • Rex

    So much for fleeing to Egypt.

    • boatboy_srq

      Didn’t work 3000 years ago, either.

    • Guest

      The one trip I’ve experienced in my life where I absolutely hated the destination? Egypt. It was a horrible experience. A miserable, aggressively unfriendly place when I was there.

      • JAX

        What happened?

        • Strepsi

          we absolutely LOVED it (fascinated by ancient Egyptian culture) but the modern Muslim culture IS incredibly aggressive, and runs on bakshish (bribes) – the pushiest touts in the world, guards blocking exits to tombs unless you tip them, etc. – we got in several shouting matches, including with one of our own guides, for this constant in-your-face corruption, coupled with an undercurrent of hatred of the West (we avoided that being Canadian, BIG smiles whenever we said we were not from the U.S. but Canada, but every single person felt the need to tell us how the U.S. lies about Islam).

          Only exceptions was a young 20something female tour guide, the only one in the city — loved her, she is the future. A super nice young 20something male tour guide in Cairo was wonderful, though we had to explain what the word “Atheist” means – he did not believe in such a thing.

          Though I do not like the total combination of church and state, the call to prayer over the Nile is incredibly beautiful

          • JAX

            Mind blown.
            Thank you for the details.

          • EastCoastJ

            The call to homophobes over the Nile is never beautiful.

    • Treant

      I think the Jews said that as well.

    • vorpal 😼

      Do NOT walk like an Egyptian.

  • liondon#iamnotatraitor

    They got people starving in their streets ..but this .

    • Treant

      …is to distract from the people starving in the streets.

      Dumpster has a similar playbook.

      • EastCoastJ

        No…Trump is correct about closing the door to Muslims, though.

        • Treant

          I don’t talk to Russians. Blocked.

          • EastCoastJ

            Run and hide. (I haven’t seen such paranoia over Russians since the ’50’s).

    • vorpal 😼

      They are also, IIIRC, the country that performs the most barbaric form of female genital mutilation at the highest rate, even though I believe it’s technically illegal there.

      • Strepsi

        97% of women genitally mutilated

      • liondon#iamnotatraitor

        Yikes

  • Tawreos

    How long before Perkins and his ilk start praising this and calling for it to be adopted by the US just as it is? Sorry, I am betting that already happened.

    • boatboy_srq

      Xtianists siding with Moooslims will make for pretty splodeyheads.

      • Tawreos

        They will ignore that hate to praise them for hating a group they both hate.

        • boatboy_srq

          At least until their next mission to convert the heathens there gets intercepted and detained.

          • Tawreos

            Oh no, they won’t stop hating them for being heathens, but they will put that aside to join in on the hate for the gays, which they seem to think is the really important hate.

    • EastCoastJ

      You sure can…HOPE.

  • Karl Dubhe

    To punish people for being gay, they’re going to lock us up with other men in cages?

    How is that going to ‘stop’ men from being gay? (You know they don’t give a damn about the lesbians)

    • Christopher

      IKR!

      For many men, being caged with other men is a fantasy, not a punishment.

      I do believe, however, that the guards will make it hell on earth for these prisoners.

      • Karl Dubhe

        The reality of it would be a punishment; have no doubt about that.

        Fantasy /= reality. Never forget that. 🙁

  • Ragnar Lothbrok

    No. Stop.
    Gong backwards is not the way.

    • Bubba in TX

      I never thought we’d see a time when things would go backwards. I just assumed that progress meant progress.

      I was wrong. My bad.

      • Ragnar Lothbrok

        Our future is our history

      • EastCoastJ

        Islamic countries are going backwards. Almost every other country (under various religions and non-religions) is going forward.

  • worstcultever

    Well, so much for the Arab Spring

    Sick, sick, sick fucking closet cases with nothing else to do

    I need to get out and commune with the trees and sky earlier than usual today

    GAH

    F THIS WORLD

    • HanyBaal

      The Arab Spring was hijacked by the fundies. They layed low in wait and when the gov weakened they pounced to fill the void, trampling freedom further

      • Strepsi

        You’re right but I have to add that the North American idea that the fundies or media or companies “fool the public” is not the case around the world: in places like Russia or Egypt, the public is 90% in favour of their crackdowns. One Russian ex-pat friend of mine believes Russia NEEDS a strongman like Putin as the population itself is so out-of-control corrupt and awful. It’s terribly un-PC to say, but some entire societies are backwards. It’s similar in Egypt, the vacuum left after Mubarak is filled with the awful culture he tried to reform.

        • jixter

          And that will explain why people like Franklin Graham and the rest of the right-wing Russian traitors are so enamored of Putin and what he’s done to Russia. They want the same thing to take place in the U.S.

  • Michael R
    • Treant

      That photo was apparently shot about four minutes too early.

    • zhera

      Wrestling is so weird. Who came up with that starting position?

      • The_Wretched

        My ex-bf used to have a number of dress up items. He really liked me to wear a singlet (wrestling outfit).

      • Miji

        I don’t know, but he was either cheeky and gay or totally obliviously straight.

  • vorpal 😼

    Despite all the screeching about ISIS and Sharia law that the FRC, NOM, and AFA have done, you can bet they’ll hold Egypt up as a “paragon of virtue” after this.

    • EastCoastJ

      Tired of gays holding up Is-LAM as a paragon of virtue.

  • Do Something Nice

    Trip to Egypt: CANCELLED

    • ZRAinSWVA

      Yeah, my parents were trying to get everyone together on a trip to Egypt. My idea of a bad time: spending too much time with my parents (I do love them, but…) Now I have an out, and can once more ‘cram my sexuality down their throats’! Yah!

  • 3-Star

    If he does not believe in progress then why is he wearing a suit? He should be dressed like the two men behind him with their heads covered.

  • OdieDenCO

    sounds like russia

  • ZRAinSWVA

    Well, scratch that country off my bucket list…damn.

  • Frostbite

    They’d be better off criminalizing stupidity.

  • Robincho

    Great. Another pyramid scheme from the sphinxters…

    • Natty Enquirer

      Hatched no doubt by some queer old giza.

      • Robincho

        Cleanup on Nile Four…

        • Mikey

          GAH! these puns!!
          Loving every second of it.

  • bambinoitaliano

    Sad state for a country that has one of the earliest civilization to be held back by mental illness of religion.

  • safari

    That part of the world acting like that part of the world.

  • Barry William Teske

    Anybody aware of the travel itinerary’s of the worlds Hateveligists for the last few years?

  • DisqusD37

    In 20-phukking-17! God help this planet.

    • EastCoastJ

      Not this planet. Just the Muslim world. They also imprison and execute if you create a drawing of Mohammad and in Saudi Arabia they behead people convicted of casting a witchcraft spell.

  • So much for our trip to the pyramids, not worth the jail time, not to mention the destruction of my legal marriage while visiting there.

  • Todd20036

    But this could never happen in the US. right?

    • fuow

      Can I look behind the other two curtains before deciding?

    • EastCoastJ

      Not enough Muslims…..yet.

  • fuow

    Don’t for one moment think it won’t happen here, next.
    Hope all my fellow gay men who stayed home or voted ‘Green’ last November are happy with that. When (not if) it comes, it will be their fault.+

    • EastCoastJ

      If Hillary Clinton had gotten elected and quadrupled the Muslim population of the U.S. we’d be that much closer to it happening here. ANY place there is a Muslim majority becomes a homophobic nightmare.

  • Ninja0980

    Look for the bigots here to use this as a deflection tactic to justify their discrimination here in the U.S. when we all KNOW they want to do the same thing.

    • EastCoastJ

      Deflection tactic ? Against….what ? Is there any comparison between the two countries ??

      • Ninja0980

        Yup, in that you have religious theocrats looking to make life an utter hell for LGBT people.

        • EastCoastJ

          I guess so. The difference is that the majority of the U.S. population (even the religious population) doesn’t go along with religious theocrats, but in Muslim countries they do.

  • BeaverTales

    I’m not going to donate to any international charities that don’t promote tolerance, contraception and basic human rights. Egypt is already poor, religiously fucked and overcrowded.

  • TheManicMechanic

    The only one above the proposed law, as usual, are the ones making it. They don’t call it Greek style for nothing.

    • (((GC)))

      And even the people in power had better watch their backs.

  • -M-

    Thanx so much Rex and Donnie. /s

  • Jean-Marc in Canada

    Well of course they are.

    Pay attention kids, this shit is coming to a state near you. Doesn’t matter though, both parties are the same so you’re fucked either way…right?

    • EastCoastJ

      Coming to…..where ? What non-Muslim place is it coming to ?

    • EastCoastJ

      At least your Quebec is TRYING to take the right tactic with Muslims (and gays are probably fighting against the ban).

  • Remember that the act of reaction, no matter how horrible and oppressive, is a futile and cruel response to an environmental fact. Human sexuality is out of the bag, and it’s never going back in. They clamp down because people know. They clamp down because people are doing in larger and larger numbers. They clamp down because it’s all they can do for now.

  • JWC

    A strong US ally Oh wait Trump hates gays too

    • EastCoastJ

      Trump used to run around with Warhol. What you guys usually like to criticize him for is being “Islamophobic.”

      • JWC

        Trump changes his mind faster that the wind . What he did in his 20’s and 30’s was what got him media attention. He would have taken any opportunity with any one at anytime for a photo op. That part hasn’t changed Now its exposure, financially politically as well

        • EastCoastJ

          Don’t matter. He’s right about Muslims. If the western world doesn’t keep them from attaining the majority in the west…gay civilization is doomed.

  • Lawerence Collins

    All the anti Christ Christians. Can just move to Egypt!

  • GanymedeRenard

    Lovely. And this is what the Trump administration is supporting by refusing to condemn our criminalization (including the death penalty) internationally.

    • EastCoastJ

      LMAO. Yeah…blame Trump for every single Muslim country brutalizing gays, but jeer Trump for his bans on Muslims.

      • GanymedeRenard

        Missing the point. The US government is supposed to be championing human rights abroad, not supporting death penalty siding itself with the most repressive countries.

        • EastCoastJ

          Then Obama and Clinton and Trump and every other U.S. President shouldn’t be working with Saudi Arabia that has capital punishment for homosexual acts. As well as (Hillary’s favorite) Qatar and Malaysia and Indonesia and the Sudan…. (has the U.S. or Europe ever REALLY had the gumption to criticize Islam ?)

          • GanymedeRenard

            NOBODY’S criticizing Islam in general here, so please don’t conflate things deliberately. The point of discussion is the human rights of LGBT abroad, which should also concern Islamic nations – they’re called HUMAN rights and are universal for a reason.

            Every U.S. government that has worked with Saudi Arabia economically but ignored its violations of human rights – the same applies to Israel – is plain hypocrite, I don’t care if it’s Democrat or Republican.

            But at least Hillary, when representing the Obama administration as Secretary of State, addressed the UN on the specific issue of LGBT rights. Trump administration? Zilch. Nada. Nothing but contempt from his entire cabinet. They would want us hanged if they could – might want to ask Pence.

          • EastCoastJ

            You SHOULD be criticizing Islam in general. How much more evidence is needed that Islam = death (for gays).

          • EastCoastJ

            Seriously…what is the difference between these newer roundups, attacks, pogroms and the Muslim countries that already incorporate capital punishment for homosexual acts ? How can one be criticized and not the other ? By their laws those active gay men are criminals.

          • GanymedeRenard

            At this point I’m done with you. I’ve already made my position clear. Have a good day.

          • EastCoastJ

            you too

  • EastCoastJ

    Life under the Pharaohs was cooler. Islam sucks.

  • Halou

    What does the church say?

  • John Calendo

    Judge Roy Moore finds his vacation paradise.

  • leastyebejudged

    The arab world, with all it’s cousin-fucking and genetic disorders, is never going to be dragged into this century, much less the last.

  • James

    The most homophobic places on earth are also the biggest shitholes. It’s proven time and time again.

    • EastCoastJ

      Shows how I.Q. is connected to homophobia. No surprise that western Europe led the way in same-sex equality.

  • EastCoastJ

    And gays STILL continue to push for more Muslims entering the western world !

    • Ann Kah

      It’s escaped your notice that many people are eager to get out of these restrictive societies?

      • EastCoastJ

        No, gays espouse that any and every Muslim should enter western society (including the ones willing to turn the west as homophobic as where they left). If gays only wanted gay men and women fleeing Islam it would make sense.

        • Ann Kah

          Well…if you say so….

          • EastCoastJ

            You better edge….fast..

      • EastCoastJ

        Gays wanting to escape Islam and homophobia are the only legitimate refugees to allow into the west.

  • JCF
    • EastCoastJ

      Too often it is a white flag though.

  • Orly

    Somewhere, Tony Perkins is reading this and masturbating furiously.

  • Ann Kah

    “The third article highlighted that any “supporter” of homosexuality or someone who calls for the acceptance of homosexuality, even if he or she is not a “practitioner of homosexuality,” should be jailed for no less than one year or no more than three years.”

    So much for freedom of speech or freedom of thought.