DC Grand Jury Approves Mueller’s First Indictments

CNN reports:

A federal grand jury in Washington on Friday approved the first charges in the investigation led by special counsel Robert Mueller, according to sources briefed on the matter. The charges are still sealed under orders from a federal judge.

Plans were prepared Friday for anyone charged to be taken into custody as soon as Monday, the sources said. It is unclear what the charges are.

A spokesman for the special counsel’s office declined to comment. Mueller was appointed in May to lead the investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 election.

Under the regulations governing special counsel investigations, Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, who has oversight over the Russia investigation, would have been made aware of any charges before they were taken before the grand jury for approval, according to people familiar with the matter.


NOTE: My apologies for not reacting as immediately as usual to this news. I have a house guest visiting from San Francisco and we had to attend a very important gay-related thing downtown.

  • WOOT!!!!

    • Also Joe: NO NEED for apologies! You deserve to have a life. 🙂

      • fuow

        Hell, some things are more important. Enjoy your time with your guest!

  • JCF

    First!

  • Reposting from old thread:
    Roger Stone has been watching CNN this evening and he is very, very unhappy.
    https://twitter.com/ndrew_lawrence/status/924118607143096320
    Therefore I am rubbing my hands with glee and about to pour myself a nice snifter of the good single malt. I think I’ll go for the Lagavulin.

    • Jean-Marc in Canada

      Milady is not at all happy. Neither is Hannity, Gorka or well, anyone living in Trumplandia.

    • Sam_Handwitch

      She’s come unglued. Sad!

    • Back in the summer of 2016, Roger Stone seemed to have rather suspicious foreknowledge of the stolen DNC/Clinton campaign data and emails that would eventually be released by Wikileaks.

      Meaning that somewhere in the chain between the Trump campaign, Cambridge Analytics (+Kushner), Wikileaks and the Kremlin, Stone was plugged into what would eventually be proven as accurate information.

      Meaning he’s probably sweating bullets himself this weekend. Probably not thinking he’ll face federal marshals come Monday, but that eventually they’ll get around to him.

      And he’s nowhere near to being on Donald’s “must be pardoned” list.

      • Snarkaholic

        Yes…what kind of necktie goes well with an orange jumpsuit???

        • -M-

          For that crew? Hemp rope.

          • Snarkaholic

            Great minds…

      • Stephen Elliot Phillips

        And so did gouliani….

      • Cattleya1

        I’m betting on Manafort or Flynn – or both.

    • greenmanTN

      Laphroaig would be my choice, but you be you.

      I’d. Love to send Stone a long, evil laugh on Twitter. Nothing else, just that.

      • I have an unopened bottle of Laphroaig 10.

        Also the last 3 bottles from a very special single-cask from the Society of Single Malt Scotch Connoisseurs labeled “M11”, which likely means it originated from the Macallan distillery. I bought the case of six in the early 1990s and have opened one bottle on each of three very special occasions.

        The day Donald Shitgibbon Trump is impeached or resigns or is removed via 25th Amendment, I shall open one of the remaining three.

        • Snarkaholic

          While we’re at it, why don’t we open the cask of Amontillado?

          • Judas Peckerwood

            Sounds good — lead the way, Montressor!

          • Robincho

            “For the love of God!”…

          • Tom Furgas

            “Yes, for the love of God.”

    • Droz
    • Nychta

      How dare he insult Charles Blow!

    • Duck

      I really enjoy Oban or maybe a Dalwhinnie. I will have to give the Lagavulin a try.

      • If ambrosia were a single malt, it would be Lagavulin.

      • Robincho

        Don’t let’s forget Tomintoul, the oldest and most picturesque…

    • 2guysnamedjoe

      I was shocked when I first saw Stone’s tweets — I thought he was experssing his true opinions about drumpf!

      I didn’t notice the “@donlemon” part.

    • Acronym Jim

      “You have no cried.”

      Well that’s not Freudian at all.

  • Jean-Marc in Canada

    Wonderful! Glad you had a good night out. Isn’t it just so perfect to go out, come home and discover such news….sigh…..good times.

  • Sam_Handwitch

    i love the smell of indictments at midnight

  • bkmn

    Trump going down, hard.

  • Latest News Reports – Trump releases classified files on the infamous Roswell New Mexico Aliens now houses at Area 51 “by coincidence” — after trying to detract attention with JFK assassination conspiracy file releases. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/7c618b718a685c65daff2ed3bc2ec40333f6d4f83857cd6df56cd3db83364f19.jpg

    • glass
      • Ginger Snap

        I totally geeked out on this show clearly aimed at teens.

        • lymis

          I liked the first few seasons. Other than Katherine Heigl, they pretty much dropped off the map. Too bad. Some of them seemed like pretty good actors.

          • Ginger Snap

            I agree they were all pretty good actors.

        • Strepsi

          Ginger, it’s OK gay men and teen girls share a brain.
          Roswell
          Glee
          Vampire Diaries
          Teen Wolf
          Riverdale

        • glass

          I was so sad when it was over.

    • cleos_mom

      “But we’ve also discovered that they have a mortal, most likely superstitious, fear of some deadly Earth substance called ‘gluten’. “

  • JCF

    Going to bottom 9th, Stros up 5-3…

  • JoeMyGod

    Very important = drunken hairy dudes + classic disco.

  • Leo

    OK Becca, etc. back to Dana Boente theories from previous thread.

    So Seth Abrahmson’s Twitter thread is making more sense – I think he doesn’t want to be part of the admin. because in the last two days he saw evidence that changed the equation. Had to have been Flynn.

    • Lazycrockett

      Flynn has been dirty for the last 2 years for those paying attention, since January if you only watch casually.

    • Could very well be. Might make sense, too.

      Also, this puts Boente in a position where he’s already resigned but still doing the job. JUST AN IDLE THEORY, but maybe it’s a way of preventing himself from being fired.

      • Leo

        Ou didn’t think of that. As of now I’m sticking with that theory.

    • Lazycrockett
  • MikeBx2

    And much as we suspected, we’re all going to die.
    https://twitter.com/AP_Politics/status/924122294150197248

    • Jean-Marc in Canada
    • FAEN

      I need to have more sex stat!

      • Treant

        You bellowed your mating call, my horny prince?

        • FAEN

          I knew you’d hear it. WOOF!

        • FAEN

          Ahem-so when so I expect you 😉

      • Snarkaholic

        Well, I’m having ankle surgery on Tuesday, so I’ll be in bed anyway…

        • FAEN

          Oy! No worries, I’m gentle and will fetch soup for you 😉

        • Stephen Elliot Phillips

          And ur ankles can be in the air….just saying

          • ColdCountry

            Elevation after surgery is recommended, I believe.

    • Stephen Elliot Phillips

      Great!
      sacrifice the west coast and/or hawaii so everybody will forget the orange bastardo is a crook.

    • ColdCountry

      That was my first thought, cynic that I am.

  • Dazzer

    “Robert Mueller is gay married to George Soros”

    Sorry folks, just trying out a meme for Breitbart

  • boobert

    Biggest laughs of the day are the comments on fox fb. With everyone wondering why there’s no news about this, foxbots are claiming that they verify stories before they post them . LOL

  • Ninja0980

    No apologies needed Joe.
    We could handle late breaking news in whatever thread is up at the end of the night.

  • safari

    NP, Joe. You give us so much.

  • Jean-Marc in Canada
    • I heard Gorka for the first time on tv, that guy gave me the creeps! Uch!

      • Jean-Marc in Canada

        He has the most pompous voice and demeanor, you just want to punch him…so very, very badly.

        • Marides48

          That would be fine, but you’d get your hands dirty.

      • Nazis generally do.

        And unlike a lot of the racist wannabes, Gorka really is a genuine Hungarian Nazi.

        • Natty Enquirer

          Putting the ghoul in goulash.

          • Snarkaholic

            Putting the suck* in succotash!
            *NOT the fun kind!

          • Robincho

            Putting the arrest in Bucharest…

        • agcons

          Putting the pest in Budapest.

      • Chris H.
  • Jean-Marc in Canada
  • Treant

    I do wonder if they’re going to arrest Manafort to protect him. The guy’s a complete rat and you know he’ll happily roll over on everybody he knows just to stay out of jail or minimize his jail time.

    • bkmn

      Manafort is holding out, hoping for a big payday from Vlad

      • robindaybird

        if he’s arrested, he’s as good as dead, the new KGB like to clean up their loose ends, so it’s in his favor to get protective custody

    • Jean-Marc in Canada

      Indeed, he’d be a key witness.

    • If the indictment is intended to be strategic in any sense and it is Manafort and not someone else, I figure it’s because he’s been an uncooperative witness + the feds found enough dirt on him to put him away for the rest of his life. Not hard given how obvious the money laundering has been.

      FARA violation = slam dunk. Money laundering = highly probable. Tax evasion = same. Violating U.S. sanctions = same. Lying to investigators = almost a certainty.

      So as many of the experts (not me) have said, the first indictments are given to the 2nd tier of suspects:
      1st tier = those who flip and cooperate
      2nd tier = those who won’t flip, to force cooperation or just convict ’em

      The target always is the bigger fish, and there is not much question it’s Trump and his inner circle who are the targets. Also worth noting that Mueller knows he could be fired at any time, therefore he has been already taking steps to make his own firing not result in the end of the investigation or the indictments.

    • Gustav2

      And of all of them in the campaign in the meeting with the Russians he would know who was on the Russian payroll.

      Because he had been on the Russian payroll.

  • Had a change of mind. Rather than Lagavulin, I opted for the 18yo Glenlivet. My god is good scotch…

    • Jean-Marc in Canada

      BARBARIAN! jk

      I settled for the 36 Lagavulin…the husbotter went for a Mojito…he loves his Mojitos

      • JCF

        Dang, you rich folk. I feel lucky to have my 12 yo Glen Ness…

      • djcoastermark

        Ok quit all this talk of 36 yo’s and 18 yo’s, it’s making me a bit randy.

      • Main reason I didn’t go for the Lagavulin was because it wasn’t opened yet, whereas the Glenliv was and about half empty.

    • Kenster999

      “It’s scotch whisky… Glenlivet, single malt. When you die, you’ll go to heaven, say hello to God; and when God says hello to you, this is what you’ll smell on his breath.”

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rESqeTVyPCw

      • That’s a bottle of 12yo Glenlivet. I can literally buy a bottle of it at my local supermarket.

        NO.

        The aroma on God’s breath will be either Lagavulin or Laphroaig, 18yo or better.

        • Kenster999

          *You* wanna tell that to Artie? 🤔😉

          • Hell ya, I’ll tell him.

            The blasphemer probably drinks his on the rocks, too, and not neat or with, at most, a splash of pure spring water.

          • Dazzer

            The only way to drink Scotch is in tea – the way it was meant to be drunk!

          • don

            Diet Coke?

            I’ll show myself out…

          • Kenster999

            In every other episode, he drinks a Salty Dog. “Drink it, you pussy!”

  • Jean-Marc in Canada
  • JCF

    Stros win! Up in WS 2-1.

  • White Canary

    Please be Trump Jr.!!!!

  • Cuberly Deux

    We should start marketing a line of Evangelical coping devices. Toni Perkins butt hurt donut?

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f4c6df24b572b060e0d0f5c7db7cce712b1092ccc32871b9badbb9f4c3654157.jpg

    • William

      Tune in to the 700 Club on Monday and watch Pat Robertson freak out. He’ll be blaming the gay homosexual demons for attacking Trump at Halloween.

      • Natty Enquirer

        Led by Queen-Witch Hillary, who is the reincarnation of Hecate and Jezebel rolled into one. Or something like that. Now here is a word from our sponsor.

      • Cuberly Deux

        Does Amazon offer a refund for Franklin Graham, well worn, knee pads?

      • Treant

        Yeah? Well, I can finally put down the athame and get some sleep.

        You thought this soap was for gifting? Pentagram lines. The demons can’t just blow the soap away like they can with chalk or charcoal and sodium lardate is magically neutral.

        • greenmanTN

          Plus you can erase the evidence and clean your floor at the same time! Win/Win

  • Jean-Marc in Canada

    Ohhhh, the butthurt and wishful thinking is strong with the deplorables tonight….

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/81caea5ad54d1f69f871a04eef921acbed0edd19a3ee8dc97bdecb7f718acae6.jpg

    • Holy shit, the delusions run deep. They’re gonna need semi-truckloads of Preparation-H when they find out it’s Manafort, Flynn, and/or Page.

      (My money remains on it being Manafort only, and likely on FARA, tax evasion, and money laundering charges.)

      • bkmn

        Along with a reminder to the rest of us that they are armed and pissed, thanks to Fox/Rush/WND/Whitefart

        • In a way, I’m glad they’ll spend the weekend swapping ridiculous conspiracy theories and false predictions like a mouthful of used spit.

          It’ll keep ’em occupied until the real news hits.

          • Stephen Elliot Phillips

            Lord, one of the above in jean marcs tweet capture says mueller helped Hills sell the uranium……
            Lol. The stupid. It burns

        • Skeptical_Inquirer

          I think they are scary but I think now they’re going to be scary towards the GOP establishment as well.

    • JCF
    • Skeptical_Inquirer

      Wow, that is some deep, deep insanity.

      • ultragreen

        If you want to even deeper desperation and insanity, look no further than the comment sections of The Hill.

        • KnownDonorDad

          I find when I post there I get a mix of people agreeing with me and pretty weak opponents, for what it’s worth, but yeah, The Hill has some doozies.

      • JCF

        Hannity-Level Insanity! 😉

        • 2guysnamedjoe

          Hannity rhymes with insanity. I never noticed that before.

    • OdieDenCO

      I hope the shock when reality hits is just a strong as it was for me 9 Nov 16!

    • Wow! The deplorableness made my head hurt!

    • agcons

      The aggregated IQ in that thread is significantly lower than a comfortable room temperature.

      • atchitamo

        Agreed and I measure in Celsius.

  • djcoastermark

    And to think, I went to bed early thinking it was going to be another boring friday night. Okay! Time to par-tay !

  • FAEN

    Jeebus I’m really curious as to who it is.

    • 2guysnamedjoe

      Do we know it’s just one, or might they be picking up more than one bad guy on Monday?

      • FAEN

        I’m assuming it’s just one but who knows.

  • Jean-Marc in Canada

    Yes, I’m being a dick…no, I don’t care….

    https://twitter.com/sirlthr69/status/924127680869658624

    • agcons

      You’re not being a dick at all. That’s far nicer than anything I would post to that crazy sack of shit.

  • Ninja0980
    • Sam_Handwitch

      i guess i’m an astros fan now. i’ve been very agnostic about this series. lol

      • MikeBx2

        The racist player plays for the Astros.

        • Sam_Handwitch

          oh cripse. see how much i’m payin attention?

      • Ninja0980

        The guy plays for the Astros..

    • That’s gonna earn him a big honkin’ fine and probably a suspension.

  • Dreaming Vertebrate

    If only Linda Harvey had not abandoned her Ouija board, we would know exactly who is to be indicted.

    • bkmn
      • Treant

        Enough of that and we could beat global warming. We just need another hundred million snarky gays.

        • FAEN

          We can do that.

        • Snarkaholic

          Reporting for duty, Sir!

        • Robincho

          ON it, brotato chip…

          • Treant

            Thanks, bro worm. Brotein shake. Whatever. 🙂

        • Gustav2

          I don’t know how to do that!

    • Snarkaholic

      Shall we dig up Nancy R’s coffin and pry the Magic 8 ball from her hands?

      • Robincho

        The hands which are thankfully still cold and still dead…

    • Jay Silversmith

      Does anybody still have the number for Miss Cleo?

      • Jack

        She’s on the other side. But you can contact her with a medium. Maybe http://www.theresacaputo.com/contact/

        If you need help with the accent, I’m born and raised in Brooklyn

        • Chicago joe

          I thought you could only get Miss Cleo with an extra large. She was no medium.

    • Uncle Mark

      Actually, Harvey’s Ouija board last message to her was “Leave me the fuck alone, you looney !!”

      • RNegron

        I thought it was ‘stop touching me there’.

    • Strepsi

      @JOEMYGOD re: “we had to attend a very important gay-related thing downtown”…. mm hmm okay.

      http://fm4v3.orf.at/v2static/storyimages/site/fm4/20090518/TS%2065_body.jpg

  • JCF

    “we had to attend a very important gay-related thing downtown”

    So THAT’s what they’re calling it now! ;-p~~~

    But seriously, thank Joe, for all you do (just don’t go anywhere Mueller Monday!)

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/730d6571be220527b89446de2e6cd6bc1b1dc9ebc10bb9f0aad06f2f89bb5f62.jpg

      • Natty Enquirer

        One of my earliest memories. I was 4 when this song was a hit.

        • I was 1 at the time, but because it was one of my mom’s favorite songs (along with a bunch of others from that time), I often got to hear it while she was housecleaning.

          Family had one of those humongous console-style record players.

        • agcons

          I was five. It’s the earliest hit I can remember.

          • olandp

            I can remember getting a Beatles 45 free with a fill up at the gas station.

            (Our ‘good china’ came from a gas station promotion… I carried that china around for years.)
            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/28215c7804d8496d70dbdbce009c0142577d3e3f8edc99ce296fc4b626f1d2cc.jpg

          • swimboy

            When my parents moved to Florida, they gave me three huge boxes of “the good china.” Hubby and I unloaded the first box and put it in the hutch in the dining room. We didn’t have room for the other two boxes in the house, so it stayed in the garage. The set was nice, but nothing to write home about.

            Fast forward 15 years, and I’m talking to my mom on the phone and casually mentioned the silver accents around the rims of the china matching some silversticks. She said “That’s not the good china, that’s the stuff we got at the gas station!”

            Went back into the garage, opened up the other two boxes, and found 20 place settings of *very* nice Wedgwood china. The “gas station china” was supposed to go to Goodwill.

        • kelven

          Mine too! My older cousin had it on a 45. She was one of those cool and mysterious teenagers I would sometimes encounter as a child.

        • Cattleya1

          I was 10 – it was a great song then and still is!

      • Hryflex

        I was 24 when I finally “got” the gay subtext of this song.

  • Cuberly Deux

    I’d call 911, but….why?

    Hannity is having a stroke.

    • safari

      *shrugs* He lives I won’t notice. He dies, the world is a better place without his misdirection or outright lies.

  • PeedeResistance

    But I thought Hillary was already scheduled for a firing squad on Monday–uranium, don’t you know.

  • Jean-Marc in Canada

    OMNEG! Some of the tweets are just…..

    https://twitter.com/haydenblack/status/924129544541315072

    • houstonray

      I reported a bunch of his tweets to Twitter. Calling Don Lemon a cocksucker I posted as hate directed to an orientation. I think he’s drunk. Maybe he’ll end up confessing something good in a tweet….

      • Robincho

        You think he’s drunk and I think you’re being kind. Dude is GONE…

    • I posted a bunch of these downthread. Roger’s sweating bullets tonight. You can smell the reek of panic through the Internet.

    • KnownDonorDad

      Holy crap, Stone is unhinged.

      • William

        You just noticed this?

        • KnownDonorDad

          I get lulled into complacency because he goes on Bill Maher and seems fairly normal.

          • FAEN

            He had to be on his best behavior.

        • pj

          just look at his hair

          • JCF

            I think the Nixon tattoo (just for Stone’s top’s enjoyment!) is sort of a dead giveaway…

    • Stephen Elliot Phillips

      Cant they ban this asshole for tweets like this?

      • Todd20036

        Of course they could. They could also ban Trump for breaking various rules.

        But they don’t.

    • Robincho

      Covksucker? Certain illiterates can’t even spell covfefeksucker. Jeez…

      • northern_neighbour

        German compound words are fun! Especially when misspelled!

        Something like “CovertKaffeeFakeSucker.”

        It’s just translated machine code for their Fascist Strategisms.

        But it’s Organic and Explosively Orgasmic when falling into the wrong BrothelMongerFußgangerzone. AKA FauxNuz/Hannitzy.

      • FAEN

        I also hate when people use ‘cocksucker’ as a pejorative.

        • Steve Teeter

          In a bull session in college a friend said that if, during an argument, someone called him a “Jewish intellectual cocksucker” he’d feel he’d been insulted. Even though all three were true and he wasn’t ashamed of any of them.

    • Daveed_WOW

      Roger Stone is the shadow self of the nation: profane, tasteless, ugly and mean. Oh wait. He’s the mirror self of the nation.

      • FAEN

        Part of the nation.

  • Eric Lewis

    Do you think they make handcuffs to fit Trumps little hands or is that a custom order ?

  • Skeptical_Inquirer

    (sighs) A lot of competent people left the civil service. Any chance of any of them coming back? Not right now but after there’s finally a non-traitorous President and/or Congress.

  • Sam_Handwitch
  • Blake J Butler

    I feel my masochist side awaking again soon. It comes and goes.

    Anything with humiliation for republicans gets me off, they deserve it.

    https://media.giphy.com/media/1122jxHD0efbpu/giphy.gif

    • Snarkaholic

      Dandy Mott was definitely a Republican!

  • Jean-Marc in Canada

    Well kids, the husbotter wants to go to bed so, depart I must. Looking forward to seeing what’s happened come the morning. Have a wonderful night and be well.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/07615b29098f2d597a0951dfd603b106f70ee8bf855470a2fd484a608019984c.gif

    • Cuberly Deux

      U2…. 😉

    • gaycuckhubby

      G’night Sir

    • Ninja0980

      Good night!

    • FAEN

      Puppy ❤️

  • Cuberly Deux
    • Natty Enquirer

      Did you mean passive voice? That would be “First charges reportedly netted by Mueller Russia probe.”

      • Cuberly Deux

        Yeah, I was attempting to be clever….ok…yeah…(slinks away)

        • Jukesgrrl

          I got it. It WAS clever.

        • Made me smile. ‘Twas a winner, don’t worry about nit picky folks.

          • Cuberly Deux

            😉

  • boobert

    Can the guilty party hide out in an embassy, like assange ?

    • Potentially.

      That said, for the rest of this weekend, there will be at least one dark-windowed van or SUV parked near whomever is to be arrested come Monday and their communications monitored.

      That Assange managed to make it to the Ecuadorian embassy in London was really a fluke and a screw-up by British police.

    • Max_1

      Assange may be the first indicted…

  • Skeptical_Inquirer

    OT: Sweeper has problems dealing with panda cubs going after her basket o’ leaves.

    https://youtu.be/I-ovzUNno7g

    • Moebym of the Returners

      Panda cubs are basically enormous furry toddlers with claws.

    • zhera

      It doesn’t strike them as a good idea to distract the cubs? That’s just ridiculous.

      • marshlc

        I suspect that the play and interaction is good for them, and sweeping up all the leaves is just a byproduct.

      • ColdCountry

        Everybody seems to be having a good time.

    • olandp

      That is a job worth going to!

    • ColdCountry

      Oh, lordy! Laugh!! Thank you! And I never knew pandas were really cats in bear suits.

  • Moebym of the Returners

    LOL

    I may be gloating just a little. 😉
    https://twitter.com/CharlieHenri/status/924130736084578304

    • JCF

      That (old fashioned) emoticon skill!

  • Ninja0980

    Will be celebrating one of my sister’s birthday today.
    She’s turning the big 40.

    • Happy Birthday Ninja’s sister!!!!

    • JCF

      Ah, youth…

  • Robin Bailey
  • Rocco

    Keep ’em coming!

    • Tom Furgas

      I’ll be right over with some lube and rubbers.

      • Rocco

        It’ll be a short visit, unless you’re more flexible than I am…lol.

  • Cuberly Deux

    Don’t laugh, after some JMGers posted their pics of their chili cornbread casserole I made my own. DINNER!

    It just sounded sooooo good.

    • Lazycrockett

      sweet cornbread?

      • Cuberly Deux

        The down and dirty Jiffy mix, w/ green chilis and sharp cheddar.

        I’m not a chef…lol…

        • ClevelandJim

          Jiffy cornbread mix has been amazing for decades! I hope they never stop making that stuff.

  • Bluto
    • safari

      The wardrobe wears the man.

    • FAEN

      Needs a beard. And some chest hair.

  • Blake J Butler

    She was being awarded at the International Women’s Forum, at the same time that the news broke.

    Is this the smile of a legion of doom administration indictment ? I think so.

    https://scontent-dft4-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/22788970_10155821775452498_1924178768144138823_n.jpg?oh=6837cb917b1eba1918dd52f88aa7d968&oe=5A6E394C

    • don

      The real President…

  • They know. They don’t want us to know they know.
    https://twitter.com/JuddLegum/status/924133929686306821

  • TuuxKabin

    Now that you’ve posted the news, go back out. It’s only 1:10 in the morning. Thanks Joe!

    • Jukesgrrl

      Have fun with your guest.

  • SoCalGal20

    I’m here! I finally got home!

    • Welcome to the party.

    • Where you been?

      • SoCalGal20

        Out at the casino and had a delicious dinner!

        • Super! Glad you got out, away from the nonstop tilt-a-whirl news.

  • Lazycrockett
    • Cuberly Deux

      I don’t think I’ve ever seen a better distillation of “Today’s GOP”!

  • Slippy_World
  • Max_1
    • “That’s why I have all those boxes of financial records in the rented storage locker, Barron. You and I are still gonna live like royalty on what’s left after the feds seize 90% of it. Just do me a favor and don’t grow up to be Joffrey Trump, okay?”

      • lymis

        Without some serious intervention, that kid is screwed.

    • j.martindale

      Melania first, kids. She worked hardest for it.l

      • Jon

        She knew what she signed up for.

        • Strepsi

          *mic drop

    • lattebud

      What money? They will just get saddled with Russian backed debt

    • Acronym Jim

      The only time I ever see photos of Barron smiling is when he is with Tiffany. I really feel for the kid regardless of who his parents are.

  • Davester

    best comment posted to TheHill:
    max74mm Don Qui • 4 hours ago
    Breaking news: Trump was just seen leaving the White House in a white Ford Bronco.

  • Max_1

    Trump, the moment things just got real…
    … When he was first announced as the winner.

    That’s not the look of a winner… That’s WORRY!

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5e08f54796d7aeb270993841c7086a4ce43d2c6b6abe85c8d28463cf7e712164.jpg

    • That photo right there was when I *knew* he did not want to win. Everyone around him though didn’t know it.

      • Cuberly Deux

        Kleptanka doesn’t look particularly happy.

        • Max_1

          She also knew the shit just got real…

          Look at Jr. He’s all, “YESSSS!!!”
          He’s the organizer of the TREASON!

          Look at Pence, he’s all “YESSSS!!!”
          He’s the one who ‘got lied to’.

      • Jukesgrrl

        Yes, look at Don Jr. Cluelessly happy.

        • Dude, Jr. is clueless 24/7

      • pj

        he never wanted it. and his stay in the white house proves it. i predict he gets into air force one and refuses to come down.

        • Marty Pavelka

          It’s like the end of the film “The Candidate” “What do we do now?”

      • marshlc

        I dunno – that entire room seems pretty subdued for the win of a real underdog. I’ve seen other video of when the guys way behind in the polls pull out a win, and they’re not just smiling and clapping, they’re freaking the fuck out. Jumping and hugging each other and waving their hands in the air.

        That’s not a room full of people with a vision and a plan and hope for the future (even if for most of us it would be a shitty future). That’s a room full of people thinking “Hmm, looks like the fun’s over”.

    • Skeptical_Inquirer

      I believe the story that he really wanted to lose then parlay that loss into a Trump TV network with the help of Ailes and probably Bannon.

      • And spend the rest of his life complaining/lying about the election being stolen from him.

        • JCF

          This.

        • ChrisInKansas

          Isn’t he doing that now? 🙂

    • Lazycrockett

      wtf is it with the water bottles?

      • don

        It has electrolytes!!

      • pj

        don only provides water for free

  • coram nobis

    So it begins.

    Now for wrath, now for ruin, and a red nightfall! Forth Eorlingas!

  • Ninja0980

    https://twitter.com/yashar/status/923898745548427265
    Not sure what to think about this one.
    I will say I do think Andy was kidding here but in the same breath, his Real Housewives stuff and other comments about women, maybe he wasn’t kidding.

    • Lazycrockett

      He’s beyond annoying.

      • Ninja0980

        He is but I have to say Kathy and her attacks on Anderson lately..nope.
        I get the anger at being replaced by this clown over what she did but in the same breath, if you want to create controversy, you can’t expect that your friends will have your back every time.

        • Lazycrockett

          No one who works for CNN gets a pass for sucking the Drumpf cock 24/7 in ’16. Fuck Anderson.

          • Ninja0980

            Most of CNN can go to hell, I agree with you there.
            Maybe it’s just because even though Andy has rubbed me the wrong way over the years, so has Kathy to a degree.

        • gaycuckhubby

          Yeah. I don’t like Cohen, at all. And he was kidding here.
          But I am totally over Kathy by now. And I don’t think she should get a pass on her homophobic language last week.

          • Lazycrockett

            “Spineless Heiress” really? or am I missing something?

          • gaycuckhubby

            Yep. Misgendering someone as an insult is wrong

          • Lazycrockett

            guuuurl

          • gaycuckhubby

            Ok, but I could tell that was out of love for me 😉

          • Ninja0980

            I agree with all of your points.

    • Max_1

      IMO… Andy Cohen is an ASS.

      • Lazycrockett

        HOLE

    • fuzzybits

      He can be a gross narcissist.

      • fuzzybits

        And really shallow.

    • Cuberly Deux

      Who?

    • JCF

      I’m gobsmacked by the interviewer. He’s BUYING what is Cohen’s obvious SCHTICK, instead turning up the heat: “Why are you bullshitting me right now? Has CNN ordered you to play stupid-er, or are you brown-nosing for a bigger role there? Do you always sell out your friends, or just when they’re down? Would you say that you’re an innately soul-less schmuck, or are you just doing this for the money? Seriously, how much of an asshole are you?” [Damn, I should have had a career in journalism! ;-/]

  • Lazycrockett

    Just remember the House will NOT do a DAMN thing.

  • O/T: https://twitter.com/APSouthRegion/status/923860816675434496
    Um, so no mention anywhere in the story that this Hatch guy’s sleeve-ink is 100% Nazi?

    • Ninja0980

      Not when it’s a story about someone who deserted.

    • Max_1
      • Max_1
      • Yeesh. Okay *maybe* not a Nazi. But clearly a death-cultist at minimum.

        I’m still guessing Nazi, TBH.

        • Ninja0980

          Neither he nor the man he is talking about should have been in the service.

          • I concur.

          • And add that after having served three full tours in Iraq, my nephew should never have been sent on the 4th which nearly killed him.

          • Max_1

            Selective service could solve this problem…
            … But the GOP sons and daughters would be forced to serve. They can’t handle that.

          • Donnie Bone Spurs proved Selective Service, as it was implemented in this country for most of its history, isn’t necessarily the answer.

            The *better* answer is for the U.S. to stop going into wars it has no plan to win or complete. Better simply to stop going into wars.

          • don

            I don’t think so. Rich people are going to have their wars whether it’s an economic draft or otherwise. It’s been forever thus. And they nearly always find ways to keep the ones they care about out of the firing line. tRump…Bush Jr. Cheney…Limbaugh…etc etc

  • safari

    It’s late. Tomorrow will be a bitter-sweet joy.

    • Cuberly Deux

      Donnie’s 4am toilet tweets have been rescheduled to 2am….seems he can’t sleep…..for some reason.

      • fuzzybits

        He’ll be on the can,phone in one hand,cherry pie in the other.

    • coram nobis

      “Tomorrow is another day.”

    • His morning rage-tweet meltdown will be…well, let’s just say I do fear this weekend will not be all wine and roses for the good guys.

  • Lazycrockett

    Sleep in, eat a big breakfast, watch a movie. Nothing will happen tomorrow, everything will just be speculation til Monday.

    • Ninja0980

      Hubby and I will be saving the movie watching for tomorrow night.
      Will be 68 during the day and with the rain and it being Halloween party night, we’ll be staying in tomorrow night.

      • gaycuckhubby

        68 during the day. 69 at night

        • Snarkaholic

          And then, the next morning, 77 (eight/ate once again(!)

        • Ninja0980

          I love the way your mind works.

  • fuzzybits
  • blackstar

    Monday night is “Mischief Night” 😏😐😱

  • Max_1
  • Wouldn’t it be a marvelous prank to spend the weekend going up to Manafort’s, Flynn’s, Page’s, Stone’s, Giuliani’s, Gorka’s and the houses of every other mid-level Trump-treason conspirator and just randomly ringing the doorbell every few hours?

  • gaycuckhubby
    • Reality.Bites

      He’ll certainly be challenged and will not serve.

      As a defence attorney I’d feel his presence on the jury would bring undue publicity to the case, whatever it is, making a fair trial impossible, and that as a juror he’d have too much influence on the other jurors.

      I mean seriously, would anyone *dare* get into a debate with Barack Obama in front of ten other Chicagoans?

  • JCF

    OT: my great-grandmother. Colorful life, no?

    https://www.revolvy.com/main/index.php?s=Grace%20Alekhine

    • whollyfool

      Wow, no kidding! What a life!

      • JCF

        Died before I was born, unfortunately. I was looking for something else, when I came upon this website. I heard most of this stuff in the past several years, but it had a few new details. My life has been pretty boring (well, except maybe for the whole “I don’t know what gender I am” thing) compared to hers! ;-/

  • Max_1

    T. reason
    R. ussia
    U. nfit
    M. eglomaniac
    P. rison

    • blackstar

      P. tapes.

  • To quote the old Stephen Colbert, this has the ring of Truthiness to it:
    https://twitter.com/RogueSNRadvisor/status/924157622147801088

  • Cuberly Deux

    Vic Berger does Halloween.

    That mouse from Babes in Toyland was my ultimate nightmare. I couldn’t sleep for weeks after watching that as a kid.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ds-hTFxnlnI

  • DaddyRay

    I just got off a conference call for maintenance on our servers and one of the guys on the call is a Trump supporter. He kept on trying to change the subject to Clinton. Everyone else in the meeting sent me a private IM with a big eye roll

    • DaddyRay

      He is so convinced that the inditement will be for Hillary on Monday
      I doubt he will ever accept what is coming

      • Robincho

        Possibly a tsunami of tsuicides?…

        • pj

          thats lovely

    • They really do live in a fantasy world all their own.

      • DaddyRay

        indeed they do – enjoying watching them meltdown on Twitter

        • Roger Stone’s meltdown from earlier this evening was spectacular and a thing to behold.

          I’ve seen some high-quality rage-tweet meltdowns over the years but this one was over the top. I mean, if he was posting this shit on Twitter, I can only imagine he was literally screaming at his television.

          • DaddyRay

            That was delicious

          • Snarkaholic

            I was surprised it contained so many spelling errors.

          • Robincho

            You mean like “cried” instead of “cred”?…

          • Karl Dubhe

            Is there any chance that Roger Stone will also be arrested?

            /asking hopefully…

  • Max_1
  • Max_1
    • Mikey

      they’re going to have to make it a wallpaper pattern available at Costco.

      • Max_1

        Just print shit stain patterns…
        … Because that’s what Trump has done to America.

        • Mikey

          watched War for the Planet of the Apes last night… there’s a certain irony to the concept of flung dung after that.

      • AJ Drew

        has anyone actually seen those extensive WH renovations?

  • Max_1

    FYI… I now call SHS = Sarah Huckabee Slanders

  • I’m about to head out for the night, but this here is worth noting:
    https://twitter.com/RWPUSA/status/924080585877966850
    The Trump WH very likely knew indictments were coming. How could they not, given Mueller has to report to Rosenstein in the DoJ? So they, along with their spokesgoblins and Congressional GOPer stooges, and aided by Fox News and wingnut media tried for all they were worth this week to pre-set a narrative where Trump-Russia was actually all about Clinton/emails/uranium/collusion.

    Which, of course was really low-quality bullshit, hence despite Fox running it nearly 24/7 for the past several days, it barely took off. The mainstream media, esp. places like NYT and CNN, did show signs of potentially taking the bait. “Oh, this is terrible news for Hillary and the Dems!”

    It was a gusher of lies, gas-lighting, and propaganda. Same with the trial balloons about ‘conservatives pressure Mueller to resign’ and ‘Mueller’s budget in jeopardy’ and ‘Mueller might have to step down over conflicts.’ Again, more BS intended to distract from what was coming.

    I don’t think any of them correctly estimated the overwhelming news-cycle-seizing power of actual indictments coming from Bobby Three Sticks (Mueller). This weekend promises to be a very bumpy ride, so be sure to exercise good self-care. Step away from the phone/computer if things get too stressful or depressing. If you feel like taking a positive action, contact your Senators and Representative and ask them to act.

    But most of all, take care and stay frosty. Now is when it starts getting really real.

    G’nite my friends, and thanks again to our host for having us here.

    • Final PS observation: Word is this was the DC grand jury that handed down the sealed indictments. Not the Virginia one (which ought to have had jurisdiction over Manafort and Flynn, since that’s where their lobbying outfits were based) and not out of NYC, which would have pre-election Trump Tower criminal jurisdiction. (Unless we’re talking about Flynn when he was NatSec adviser and lied on his clearance and financial disclosure forms and likely lied to FBI investigators)

      The DC GJ focuses on cases involving allegations of crimes committed in DC. Which would mean AFTER the inauguration.

      Puts an intriguing spin on exactly who it is who could be facing those indictments come Monday.

      Anyway…

      • JCF

        Huh. That would suggest NOT Manafort (who was gone from the campaign before the election). We’ll see!

      • j.martindale

        Well, that Russian meeting and the lies that followed from Jr. and Kushner are pretty obvious possibilities.

      • Daveed_WOW

        So Donald Trump and Cain and Abel?

    • Max_1

      Sean Hannity is as dumb as a brick wall…
      … Upon it, the FOXNews(R) viewer follows the shiny object.

      https://media.giphy.com/media/DiXNpGz3y5hCM/giphy.gif

    • JCF

      Words of wisdom!

  • Max_1
  • Edmund Allin
  • Max_1

    So, for Halloween we get a White Russian…
    Does this mean for ThanksGiving we get a cooked goose?

    This may be the news on X-mas eve:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kG0siKz_vhA

    • Helen Damnation™

      I can’t see Dump voluntarily resigning; more like to fort up the White House, ordering soldiers to come stand guard!

      • William

        Wait for the perp walk.

    • greenmanTN

      I prefer Black Russians, but White Russians? Sure, why not? Any potent potable in a storm I guess…

      • AJ Drew

        Before we consider that, please rephrase that answer as a question.

        • greenmanTN

          Where is my White Russian?!

          • AJ Drew

            I was hoping for some version of “Why’s it gotta be black,” but meh, that works.

          • Dazzer

            I had a white Russian once. He looked just like a young version of Andrew Lincoln. He was tremendously pleasant and bendy.

            I’ve never come across a black Russian, but if I do (and he’s gay and willing), I’ll happily do a comparison.

  • greenmanTN
    • AJ Drew

      Have you named them yet?

    • JCF

      That’s mama & 3 babies?

      • greenmanTN

        No, that’s older brother Petey and 3 babies.

        • AJ Drew

          That stretched one is reallllly stretched out!

  • netxtown

    I’m thinking that weekend outbound flights to Moscow will be booked solid. Big sunglasses. Heavy coats. Dubiously floppy hats…

    • JCF

      I hope not! I hope Mueller will have had a judge pull the passports of any indicted? [Don’t know how that works. Needless to say, do NOT trust anyone in the Drumpf Admin to do the right thing *w/o* a court order!]

      • Reality.Bites

        They laugh at courts. They only do the right thing at gunpoint.

    • William

      Oligarchs have their own private jets.

  • Michael R
  • WarrenHart
    • ZRAinSWVA

      I would upvote that, but it’s too close to the truth, and too sad to be sustained.

  • blackstar
  • Gustav2

    “we had to attend a very important gay-related thing downtown.”

    Is that what the kids are calling it these days?

  • AJ Drew

    And about Sean Hannity…. wait, he still has an active Twitter account?

    • greenmanTN

      And his meltdown is going to be delightful, delicious, de-wonderful…

    • Adam King

      He needs something to do with his thumbs when they aren’t stuck up his ass.

  • yes b’y
  • gaycuckhubby

    Im honestly surprised at the speed. I thought it would be a full year before the first charges would be filed.

    • Reality.Bites

      This is like a trailer for a Star Wars movie that comes out a year in advance. There’s lots of background footage shot already, and they may film a dramatic close-up for the trailer that isn’t actually in the movie.

      This charge may be as much to signal what he want Trump to think is his strategy as his actual strategy. As such it may be disappointing to us, who want to see him take on the Emperor, not Jar Jar.

      (I’m not even a Star Wars geek)

  • gaycuckhubby

    Never looked forward to a Monday this much.

  • AJ Drew
    • Dazzer

      Afternoon from London 🙂

      • Karl Dubhe

        Morning from the Great (formerly) White North. 🙂

        (Where’s our snow? D’you have it?)

    • gaycuckhubby

      Gorgeous

    • SoCalGal20

      Beautiful!

      • AJ Drew

        It was a truly beautiful sunrise… it’s a rare treat for me to see sunrise over the Atlantic, especially with a best friend! (glad you liked it, too.)

        • SoCalGal20

          Thank you for sharing!

  • Reality.Bites

    “we had to attend a very important gay-related thing downtown.”

    I’m stymied what this could be. Wrong time of day for brunch.

    • Daveed_WOW

      The drink prices goes up after 6 on Fridays 🙂

      • Reality.Bites

        If grateful readers aren’t getting Joe free drinks wherever he goes, something is seriously wrong in this county and I wouldn’t be at all surprised if that’s the focus of Mueller’s first indictments.

    • Ernest Endevor

      War Paint. Nothing trumps musicals.

      • Reality.Bites

        I saw that. Fascinating story and amazing how much of it is true. The end scene is entirely fictional though.

    • AJ Drew

      I’m guessing the next post will be even later than expected compared to previous weekend posts. (yay, Joe!) [We’ll carry on here, somehow…]

    • Treant

      Orgies may be scheduled any time and they’re always appropriate for the hour.

      The typical orgy soiree, however, must be held between 6 PM and midnight.

  • Ernest Endevor

    It’s like Libtard Christmas! You can see the packages wrapped under the tree but don’t know what’s inside and if you have to try to guess any longer the excitement’s gonna make you throw up! When you open it can it ever be as extra special as you’re hoping? After all this time it’s not going to turn out to be a rain coat, is it? There must be a train set for me!

    • Hue-Man

      Coal-fired train set!

    • Treant

      Personally, I’m counting on socks and underwear. They’ll knock out a few baddies like Manafort and Flynn, but the upper echelon will remain untouched. Even if they do use this as an excuse to push Trump out, Pence will simply pardon him and that’s that.

      • greenmanTN

        You may be right but I’m hoping this does some serious damage to the GOP for a while since basically they sat on their thumbs and didn’t do anything to stop this or even rein it in.

        • Ernest Endevor

          Nothing seems to damage the Republican party. You’d have thought after Iraq it would be 50 years before any GOPer would get elected to anything. But no! They’ve taken over the states and are within a vote or two of a constitutional convention. At which point I’d like someone to shoot me. It’ll be quicker. And I won’t have to listen to Chris Matthews trying to understand what is meant by an email server.

          • Treant

            On the up side, they’re drifting away from having the votes to hold a Constitutional Convention, even if you could get some Republican state houses to agree (I’m not so sure about Pennsylvania, for example, as we’re aware we’re going to get screwed hard and fast by a Convention).

          • greenmanTN

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a41927ee1d8112ae952fb9eac12c388b39de69496a14332c5a7618f5b5a6864d.jpg

            😉

            They do seem to be pretty bulletproof though. The Dems need to step up their game at the state level to roll back the gerrymandering and voter suppression that has kept the GOP in power.

          • JCF

            “Bullet proof”, blurgh (bullets courtesy of Rethug gun-whores and Rethug SCOTUS delusion re 2nd amendment).

            I have NO doubt the Rethugs will face their well-deserved demise. I just have doubt I’ll live long enough to see it (being that, at 55, I’m still IN their prime age cohort).

        • Treant

          I’m with Ernest Endevor on this one. Forevermore he’ll be the Great President who Made America Grate Again until the Libs Forced Him Out because he Dared To Speak The Truth.

          Behind the scenes, however, you’ll see the Republicans be no less evil, but far more careful about who they nominate. I expect a token Primary with much less of a clown car, fewer choices, and more middle of the road in terms of their rhetoric.

          • greenmanTN

            So still a bitter pill but now with Nutrasweet?

            But how will they disavow Trump when many actively supported him and the nearly all the rest were complicit with his racism, the destruction of PR, the collusion with Russia, the…

            One thing I would love to see is that ambulatory Troll Doll Jeff Sessions marched out in hand cuffs. He lied about his contacts with Russia during the campaign so is implicated.

        • Snarkaholic

          I’m hoping enough low-income Chump voters are starting to realize how his E.O.s are going to cause enormously disastrous consequences in their own lives.

          • greenmanTN

            That would be nice. And very very surprising.

          • Snarkaholic

            Reading the #trump regrets hashtags on Twitter gives me some hope.

      • JCF

        See re ***State charges***, that neither Drumpf nor Pence can pardon. Shite, I bet there are lifetime sentences potentially awaiting Drumpf in Sing-Sing, from BEFORE the POS ever dreamed of running for Prez!

  • SoCalGal20

    Good morning! I meant to participate more last night but the day caught up with me once I got home so I got some sleep instead lol.

    Seth Abramson just tweeted this little thread. Interesting.

    https://twitter.com/sethabramson/status/924231568012570625

    https://twitter.com/sethabramson/status/924232449252610048

    https://twitter.com/sethabramson/status/924233135843397632

    • TuuxKabin

      Good morning and thank you! Those Santa Ana winds still bedeviling you?

      • SoCalGal20

        Nope! Went from Santa Anas to fog!!!

        Actually, it was a good thing. There was a fire that started Thursday north of us (near where I lived previously) when an offroad motorcyclist hit a tree and while it was still hot with gusty winds it would have been way worse if it had been during the Santa Anas event. As it is it’s burned 850 acres so far and they had to call in some fixed wings.

        https://twitter.com/calfirerru/status/923767931518857216

        https://twitter.com/calfirerru/status/923767681089617920

        • JCF

          Diablos returning to NorCal. Not as fierce as 10/8-9 (when Santa Rosa was incinerated), but still bracing for more badness. 🙁

        • TuuxKabin

          I’m always surprised there’s any brush, forests, woods to burn out there. Every year so much burns.

          I remember a Village Voice pun headline re: SoCal fires:

          “L.A. Burns Itself.”

  • TuuxKabin

    While waiting for the shoe(s) to drop, hopefully thrown and hitting target, from TheGuardian, a couple of looks at the third gender in Mexico. Muxes;

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/ng-interactive/2017/oct/27/muxes-documentary-the-mexican-town-where-gender-is-fluid

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=109&v=iiek6JxYJLs

    And from The National Geographic:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=18&v=S1ZvDRxZlb0

    • JCF

      “Third Genders” seem to be pretty universal…well, everywhere except the “Western World”.

      On that note: caught the latest episode of Skip Gates’ “Finding Your Roots”. Did not know that Janet Mock was half Hawaiian. Learning that, was sort of shocked that the show did NOT mention the rich Polynesian tradition of third gender, inc (Samoan term) Fa’afafine (I assume Mock knows, but would have been a nice intro for everyone watching “that geneology show” ;-/)

    • greenmanTN

      That’s fascinating.

      Lana Wachowski’s speech at an HRC visibity banquet is one of the best I’ve seen, helped me see beyond binary either/or thinking.

      https://youtu.be/crHHycz7T_c#t=04m37s

      • TuuxKabin

        Very helpful. Yes. Thanks.

      • ZRAinSWVA

        Thank you for posting this. It was very helpful.

  • j.martindale

    Hannity says the Mueller investigation is all distraction. The hilarity of unintended irony!

    • Boreal
      • greenmanTN

        She said a naughty word on British TV, the strumpet! (Never mind she was quoting GWB.)

        • Boreal

          I missed that Graham Norton. I’ll have to try to watch it tonight.

        • JCF

          Ah, British TV (I’ve seen the clip. She quotes Dubya’s Drumpf Inaugural speech review: “that was some weird shit!”)

      • worstcultever

        This is my fav Hillz laffing gif ever

  • djcoastermark

    It’s been awfully quiet from the twumpy tweet front this morning. I wonder what’s wrong ?

    • greenmanTN
    • Treant

      That happens when you realize the jig is up and you’re sitting in a darkened room with a gun in your lap, listening to the voices of despair in your head.

      To which I have only one bit of advice for Trump. “Pull the trigger and save us a fortune.”

      • Boreal

        I hope it’s loaded.

        • Adam King

          I hope somebody explained to him which end the bullet come out of.

          • Dazzer

            He still doesn’t know whether to wipe his ass or his mouth.

          • Adam King

            That chocolate cake is so confusing.

          • Boreal

            I think he should stare into the barrel to find out if it is loaded.

      • djcoastermark

        Ugh, But the place was just redone for 1.7 million. Think of the poor wallpaper, and cleaning bills.

  • Boreal

    Republicans will admit to nothing. Watch for the attacks against Hillary and Obama to ramp up and for the media to continue to focus on tRump tweets instead of substance. The average American has so little awareness of what is going that the media narrative is what they will focus on.

    • Daveed_WOW

      Trump will be the most sought-after jail interview since Manson.

    • jruffdc

      Uranium!!!

      • ZRAinSWVA

        Benghazi! Emails! Blue dress! Pizzagate! Chemtrails!

        • jruffdc

          Oh my!

  • Rebecca Gardner
  • Boreal
  • gaycuckhubby

    Im starting to get that gnawing feeling that we are getting too excited.

    • Treant

      I’m not. I expect this to be a bit of distraction; the show, if it’s being held at all, won’t start for a while and this is just the warm-up band.

    • gaycuckhubby

      Will voters care if Manafort, page ir even Flynn gets impeached for money laundering?
      I dont think enough will

      • JCF

        That’s partly up to us! We have to press, Press, PRESS.

    • TuuxKabin

      A bit more to ponder, apart from getting too excited.

      https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/10/hatch-romney/544211/

      • gaycuckhubby

        Everybody retiring!

        • TuuxKabin

          Oprah will be throwing them out to both houses.

          • AJ Drew

            Hmm, Oprah as DT (or DT as Oprah?)… “YOU get a tweet, and YOU get a tweet…”

          • TuuxKabin

            I don’t want no stinkin’ tweet, thanks anyway. You live on the outer banks or visiting? Spent a post Labor Day weekend in Ocracoke. Was great.

          • AJ Drew

            I accept your angst and one up it by wishing I could live fair-weather here OBX forever. But, no, just visiting. My current home-base (soon to change,) is RTP (central NC.)

      • AJ Drew

        Death by a thousand cuts. The line of succession possibilities are too worse, too far done the line. Render impotent the Emperor and yet let the Emperor believe he’s still gold-gilded… hmm.

    • bambinoitaliano

      I’m with you in that regard. This admin leak information like a colander leaks water. The moment Mueller decided to indict someone, the White House, GOP and their propaganda news machine like Fox and Breitbart would know by proxy of the DOJ. I’m feeling this entire investigation is just for show the way Comey did to Hillary on the eve of election. Perhaps two or three key players will be the sacrificial lamb in the whole collusion saga and be put to bed after.

    • GlennF

      We always get too excited imo.

      Ever since the shitgibbon got into the White House, we’ve been saying ‘oh this Drumph scandal has got to be the one that finally gets even the Rethugs in Congress to abandon Drumph’ and it always fizzles out.

      It’s only when the powers that be in the mainstream media and the Rethug party decide that Drumph is too much to tolerate even for them will they finally stop pussyfooting around and get rid of Drumph.

      That or the Dems finally get their act together and win back the House and Senate in Nov. 2018.

  • DaddyRay

    I’d love to be a microwave in the Oval Office right about now.

    • AJ Drew

      Careful what you wish for, DaddyRay: Uday and that other guy like shooting easy prey.

      • DaddyRay

        Obviously a reference to Trump accusing Obama of bugging his microwave

        • AJ Drew

          and obviously my reference to Uday and Quasay easy-shooting and killing set-up-for-them safari carnivores.

    • Treant

      I wouldn’t. “Warm mommy’s dildo,” Melanoma muttered as she opened the door, “Mommy needs a good one.”

    • JCF
  • Leo

    Having taken in way too much on Twitter/Op-Eds over the past few hours, I’ve concluded I don’t think Dana Boente’s resignation was nefarious, despite a quick reversal from two days prior.

    A combination of new info coming to light, new timing from Mueller, wanting less case loads and being needed as a possible witness in the Flynn case all seem plausible to me.

    Given his time and stature and hiring by Obama, I’m going to keep some optimism in that regard, for now.

  • DaddyRay

    Watch out for the most toxic of legislation to be moved through Congress while all of this is going on

    • Adam King

      The tax-cut looting of the federal purse, stealing from the poor to give to the already-much-too-rich.

    • AJ Drew

      Not to be “that guy” but, I’ll be that guy… I’ve been with DailyAction since day one, and my reps’ peeps who answer their phones know who I am (good or bad, not sure…) but… DailyAction sends a daily text with current issue synopsis and phone# of who to call… consider it?

  • j.martindale

    Did the tRump people really think they could get away with this without indictments? Delusion.

    • Boreal

      I think many of them still think that.

    • OdieDenCO

      well you know being members of the “master” race and all super geniuses
      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/bd6a106ad182c18601228c6943d229daf9ad0270bb6740510048e48904a3e497.jpg

      • Boreal

        I can just smell the superiority, oh wait that’s not what I smell.

      • AJ Drew

        I sense a new FaceOFF or SkinWars makeover challenge…

      • Gretchen

        They are bringing their shit show to Middle Tennessee today. I rarely approve of anything Gov. Haslam does, but he did well this time by stating unequivocally that white supremacists aren’t welcome in Tennessee. I guess we will see later today how he manages any issues that arise. At least it is literally raining on their parade today.

        • ZRAinSWVA

          Yah for rain! (Strategic lightning bolts would be extra special, too!)

      • Snarkaholic

        Wow, that’s bad; in the picture I expected to see at least ONE or TWO teeth!

  • SoCalGal20

    Has this been discussed at all? The Atlantic posted a story yesterday that Orrin Hatch has told friends he plans to retire.

    https://twitter.com/therickwilson/status/924009785602621440

    • TuuxKabin

      Maybe the beginning of dominoes.

      • worstcultever

        I think we’re gonna see complete political/congressional chaos before this mess is over

    • gaycuckhubby

      So no McCain, no Flake, no Corker, no Hatch… hmmm… 2018 will be interesting

      • Gretchen

        Corker is considering a 2020 presidential bid. It’s amazing how that would have seemed much more terrible to me a year or two ago. Now even he seems more palatable, and THAT is wherein the danger lies. IF the GOP ever turns on Trump, they can spin it as a reset of the party and choose literally anyone who can form coherent sentences and behave like an adult, and millions will sigh in relief as they waltz right back in to cast their ballots for the same shit with a shinier top coat.

    • Leo

      The Mensch/Taylor brigade has been crowing (loudly) about #PresidentHatch since March because of line of succession, saying Ryan’s comprised and on tape accepting laundered Russian funds. Just thought I’d leave that here.

    • AJ Drew

      Well, he’s 83, so perhaps he’s finally too tired of the bs. Maybe.

    • Reality.Bites

      Slate says Romney’s going to go for the seat

    • zhera

      Getting out before he’s made into President?

  • SoCalGal20
    • Leo

      I’m so sick of these polls as if it’s new information. Trump just says the bigotry others for decades would mask in platitudes. People pretended to like one another.

      I have no interest in tolerating intolerance any longer. I used to be a very different person prior to this election. I’m not wasting my time and energy creating a long-term connection with someone that voted for him unless you’re a co-worker, neighbor or family member. I alarm people I tell that to but life’s too short. I know many people that feel the same way. I’m done.

      • AJ Drew

        So, you are intolerant of intolerance?

        • Leo

          Word salad on my end but you made me think. Correction needed. A Trump voter reaches out to me and I don’t turn it down outright but most likely don’t pursue it in terms of a long-term connection. I used to force myself to reach out and start that process but I don’t have the energy anymore. It makes me deeply angry and bitter to start that process and that’s no way to live.

          • AJ Drew

            If I may way oversimplify: take some time to remember that good still exists, and what the fight is about.

  • Stubenville

    In other news, the White House is holding a job fair next Tuesday.

  • SoCalGal20
  • anne marie in philly

    cnn: the first shoe is about to drop on the dump/russia connection
    fox: but but but what about crooked hillary and the russian uranium deal?

    • AJ Drew

      stop being an internet bully; Melania wouldn’t like that.

      • anne marie in philly

        I don’t give a fat flying fuck what she “thinks”! 😉

    • JCF

      Poor liddle’ FUX, screaming into the Muellercane…

  • worstcultever

    EVERYBODY – LISTEN UP – while we’re waiting for Muellergeddon this weekend – PLEASE do yourself a favor and listen to this Preet podcast interview with Bill Browder from just the other day (10/26/17)

    You will gain a ton of education about Putin, Russia, Magnitsky & Magnitsky Act(s), oligarch fuckery – that and so much more, and so clearly laid out – Preet is a *superb* interviewer and it’s a discussion by two very intelligent and principled men, hence a very soul-cleansing antidote to all the derangement in which we swirl – srsly, run do not walk

    (I subscribe to Preet’s podcast on iTunes, but you can listen to the hour at this link – either way, DO NOT MISS THIS)

    http://www.wnyc.org/shows/preetbharara

    thus endeth the queen’s morning decree

  • i can’t wait to hear about what was more important than the opening salvo against the traitor who is aiding in the destruction of this nation, but Joe is Fabulous and i’m sure it’ll be something explosive. 😉

    • Joe in PA

      Hey CD, I haven’t seen you posting for a while. Welcome back.

  • GayOldLady

    OK! So I had to sleep after learning the news last night. Have I missed anything this morning?

    • Leo

      No, not really.

      1) Speculation on why Dana Boente suddenly resigned
      2) WH knew this was coming which is why the Uranium story that’s 6 years old is now getting blasted by Fox
      3) More bets on Manafort
      4) Bets that shit’s going down this weekend prior to the reveal

      • GayOldLady

        Thanks Leo. I got all of that last night except #4. This could be the best weekend we’ve had since November 2016.

    • OdieDenCO

      in celebrity news:
      1) Joe our glorious host was out kicking up his heels at a elder gay event. rumor has it he stop for ice cream as he and a special friend raced back to the MyGod cave to update the natives of this here bloggy thing on the latest events.
      2) Sam_Handwhich is having work done on his olive

      3) Safari spend the day making time passage indicators

      • zhera

        Damn, things move fast around here! Joe, how DARE you have a life! I didn’t know you were allowed out of the house.
        Sam, best of luck with your olive!

      • GayOldLady

        Oh, I already knew all that stuff! How did Handwhich’s olive turn out?

  • GayOldLady

    And Sean Hannity’s tweet is SO PATHETIC. “This has been a horrible week for Mueller’s office”…… “Tick Tock” He’s not even original with the “tick tock”. James Comey’s friend who revealed the Comey letter started that.

    To: Sean Hannity……So much Bullshit, So little Time. How much longer will you last? Tick-Tock.

    • worstcultever

      I love potato-face’s flailing. Flail, potato-face, flail.

      (Btw, how come Sean seems to be the ONLY Faux bigshot with no sex-pest scandals? Is he not a Real Man™ or what?)

      • Snarkaholic

        Maybe he’s into necrophilia, so the victims can’t speak up?

  • fuow

    Good. One doesn’t call for indictments unless there’s enough already known to justify the ‘moral outrage’ such actions produce.
    It won’t stop the onslaught on gay and transgender people’s rights – only voting would have done that – but it might just bring Pence down, too. What an awful situation when one finds oneself preferring Paul Ryan in the White House.
    Remind me, again, please, why Hillary was such an awful choice?

    • Dreaming Vertebrate

      Bars of uranium smuggled in her pantsuit pockets.

      • Snarkaholic

        I thought those were candy bars…to lure unsuspecting children into the pizza shop.

    • Boreal
    • worstcultever

      Pence MUST go down too. With Dumpy being a senile golfing empty suit, Pence has been acting as prez on a LOT of stuff, all of them the awfulest, most vicious Talibanist things – LBGTQ bashing, uterus-invading, etc – anyway we absolutely MUST take Pence down, he is WAY WORSE than Dumpy (which is saying something)

    • JCF

      “It won’t stop the onslaught on gay and transgender people’s rights – only voting would have done that”

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/4cb5cb5f666da7e8614bfe9271d1cbbc6a2c902954b5bb66a83e47d515f38366.jpg

  • Leo
  • Friday’s_cat

    I remember the print and broadcast news media’s breathless chorus of “Clinton Whitewater indictments will be handed down later today!” This went on for years until Ken Starr’s mighty labor brought forth a Monica.
    Until we see a member of Team Trump led off surrounded by federal marshals I ain’t gonna hold my breath.

    • worstcultever

      That was then. (Still-functioning country, bullshit Whitewater nonsense as a media lark – and I swear, the WaPo’s breathless Hillary-about-to-be-indicted daily HORSESHIT put me off that paper for years afterward)

      This is now. (Mueller is no panty-sniffing, nonsense-mongering Starr – this is real. criminal. shit.)

  • Leo
    • JCF

      I like her.

  • yes b’y
  • Jack

    I wonder if Trump will move up his trip to Asia?

    • DaddyRay

      Do any of the countries protect him from extradition?

      • Dazzer

        ROFLMAO. Umm… yes. Would you believe that the US doesn’t have an extradition agreement with North Korea?

        The idea of Trump seeking asylum in North Korea just makes me giggle uncontrollably.

    • worstcultever

      Maybe he’ll take a detour to sightsee in St. Petersburg – and the place will enchant him so, he’ll never want to leave

      • djcoastermark

        Hey now ! We don’t want him here in Florida , bad enough he’s on the east side from time to time. 😉

    • Pete Wascher

      trump’s timing his announcement of the next Fed chairperson to deflate mueller’s announcement. won’t work! trump certainly got advance word, given the barrage of white house announcements this week. presidents always go on foreign trips when the heats on in the kitchen at home.

      • Jack

        I can’t speak for anyone else, but I can wait a day or two before checking on the Fed chair.

  • Sam_Handwitch
    • DaddyRay

      So they are admitting that Hillary won the Presidency

      • Rebecca Gardner

        Glad I read that the same way. WTF is Lewandowski talking about? What a pathetic idiot!

      • GayOldLady

        He subconsciously reverted to the original playbook, the one where they expected Hillary would win.

    • ZRAinSWVA

      [email protected] Faux News and Lewandowski in particular. (And not because he’s cute!)

      • jruffdc

        He ain’t cute at all.

    • edrex

      “continued lies” ?! remind me againwhen the clinton administration ended?

  • lymis

    I’ll just repeat what I’ve been predicting since Trump got the nomination. There’s going to be a point where, instead of owning Trump and trying to seriously figure out where they went wrong, the GOP is going to turn, and clutching their pearls all the way, announce, “He never really was a Republican at all! We had no idea! Who could have seen this coming!” and then go on about doing more of what they’ve been doing for decades.

    • worstcultever

      They’ll do any and every ridiculous thing they possibly can

    • greenmanTN

      They only get away with it if we LET THEM. Confront them with every time they defended him or refused to act. I’m not saying that will happen but it could, with enough political will.

      Donald Trump and his immediate family will never spend a day in prison. Or Pence. That goes against the grain of our history and it’s an admission of how far they/we allowed things to go. But resignation/impeachment/25th are possibilities and other administration figures don’t have the same protections.

    • Skeptical_Inquirer

      They. Are on video kissing his ass. Clips need to be played o er and over.

    • JCF

      “the GOP is going to turn”

      The GOP establishment will try—I don’t think the DrumpfenKorp base will let them. They want to go down fighting. [Ergo, everybody here? Be CAREFUL out there.]

  • E.J.
  • Tomcat

    First indictment is going to be Hillary Clinton. After all it would go hand in hand with all the other shit trump gets away with.

    • jruffdc

      um I think you’re on the wrong comment thread.

    • worstcultever

      Yep, number one on Sessy’s to-do list. And the M$M will chase that shiny thing because of course.

      But guess what – even dead horse Hillary Squirrel can’t save them anymore. The game is about to be up. But oh will they try, because what else do they have.

    • GayOldLady

      Hillary will NOT be indicted on Monday or ever. She’s done nothing wrong and if two years of investigation by Republicans and $30 million Dollars spent by 7 committees and panels found nothing, it’s because there is nothing.

      On Monday we’re likely to see Mike Flynn or Mike Flynn Jr or possibly a role player that we’ve heard very little about.

      • Alexander Stallwitz

        As much as I would love it to be a Trump like Two Scoops Donny, or Junior or blond vampire Eric or Precious Jared. It will be Manafort or Flynn. Still, one step at a time. The Trump Criminal Orginzation will be not be disassembled over night.

        • GayOldLady

          I agree. Trump won’t be the first

    • Natty Enquirer

      Seems not everyone gets your sarcasm.

      • GayOldLady

        Getting it and ignoring it are different things, especially after reading a thread of Sean Hannity tweets.

    • blackstar

      Bernie ..is that you ?

    • Dazzer

      Oh well. I laughed mordantly at that comment.

      Verily, thou art Lord Vetinari

    • Pete Wascher

      trump ain’t in charge here.

  • jruffdc

    It’s gotta be Manafort. That fucker did a lot of bad shit.

    • JCF

      Odds-on favorite…except for that bit (somewhere down thread) that DC Grand Jury suggests indictment for POST-election. I have no idea if that theory holds any weight or not.

      • jruffdc

        Flynn? Jared?

  • Ragnar Lothbrok

    Ha Ha HA HA HA
    Oh Sarah, what shit will fall out of your face now ?

  • Rebecca Gardner
    • JCF

      Then press a button for a Coke!

  • Statistics Palin

    It’s at times like this when I ask myself “WWJD?”. When will Jared defect?

  • Ragnar Lothbrok
  • MUELLER KNOWS

    MUELLER!!

  • Thorn Spike

    Gee, Sean, is Big Daddy writing your tweets for you now?

  • blackstar
  • Skeptical_Inquirer

    I really need Pence included. He is liable to keep the same Cabinet as I think he recommended most of them.

  • Xiao Ai: The Social Gadfly

    Well I hope that very important gay-related thing downtown involves an indictment party at least, Joe! 😀

  • Acronym Jim

    I’m guessing Manafort, Flynn, and maybe Carter Page.

  • edrex

    btw. why is there no mention of this in today’s nyt?

  • Skeptical_Inquirer

    Late night hosts are going to be so savage with this.

  • Lars Littlefield

    Plans were prepared Friday for anyone charged to be taken into custody as soon as Monday . . .
    Music to my ears. Anyone else?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0RsNH7le4Q

    • LeeCMH

      Good mood lifter. The song and the news.