Michael Bloomberg: Brexit Was The Single Stupidest Thing Any Country Did Until Trump’s Election [VIDEO]

The Guardian reports:

Michael Bloomberg, the billionaire media mogul and former mayor of New York, has said Brexit is the “single stupidest thing any country has ever done” apart from the election of Donald Trump as US president.

Bloomberg argued that “it is really hard to understand why a country that was doing so well wanted to ruin it” with the Brexit vote, in a series of outspoken remarks made at a technology conference in Boston a fortnight ago.

At that event, Bloomberg, 75, also warned that some workers at the financial media company that bears his name were asking to leave the UK and US because they think the two countries no longer like immigrants and are no longer welcoming.

  • Ross

    I made a subtle but important change to the headline:

    Brexit Was The Single Stupidest Thing Any Country Did Until Trump’s “Election”

    • james1200

      I will never believe that the polls were that off in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Michigan. Never!! All were democratic states for 30 years, too. What pisses me off is, Congress probably knows what happened there but they’ll try and bury it, with the help of the spineless Dems, in order to keep the peace.

      • Ross

        Yep.

      • AmeriCanadian

        How coincidental that the margins were so slim in each of those states. NOT!

      • FAEN

        You should read Ari Berman’s book on the subject.

        • james1200

          Looking it up now…

          • David J

            Or just listen to one of Berman’s talks on YouTube, there are a few to choose from. Ari Berman spells it out pretty clearly, even if you don’t read the whole book. He looks at all the issues of our darkest side in our democratic republic, we deny citizens the right and the opportunity to vote in so many ways in so many states.

      • Gay Fordham Prep Grad

        I was warned a year before the general election by someone from WI that Trump’s support in the upper midwest should not be discounted. He said that was the name everyone was whispering when he went home to visit Mom and Dad. This was when there were at least 12 of them still standing in the GOP primary process.

      • Some of those polls were months old and with small sample sizes, so yeah, they could have been that off.

  • MikeBx2

    He ain’t wrong.

  • BearEyes

    d’uh.

  • Tawreos

    The Brexit vote and Trump’s election both came about from voters swallowing what they were told without taking a minute to see if any of it was actually true.

    • Ross

      …AND that pesky likelihood of Russia stealing the vote for Donnie.

      • FAEN

        Yep.

      • Librarykid

        This morning’s papers said that Putin might have engineered the BREXIT vote thru social media to weaken the European Union. Russia wants to rule the world.

        • No More GOP.

          Russia doesn’t want to rule the world. Putin does.

        • glass

          I have always suspected that Putin was behind Brexit. He wants to destabilize countries so he has an easier time of starting a new Soviet Union. Once again Russian citizens are being harmed by a psycho leader.

      • Frank McCormick

        The Russians also interfered in the Brexit vote.

    • Nic Peterson

      Those voters are counting on a man for whom broken promises are part of the business model.

    • JT

      Those were big Russian turds to swallow.

      • ted-

        Well said…

    • TrueWords
      • Did any disgusted Republicans actually vote for Hillary? I know some who voted for Johnson or McMullin but not one that voted for Clinton.

        • Paul

          Yes, quite a few of them, actually. You can find them in the affluent suburbs of Houston, Atlanta, Austin, Charlotte, Dallas, Indianapolis, Columbus, Chicago, DC, etc.

  • Kelly Lape

    When a country is attacked by a foreign power using their legal ability to manipulate public opinion through propaganda, then the “will of the people” will no longer be the governing force.

    • Tor

      Interesting thought. The “will of the people” is influenced by many things – if it is called news, advertising, spirit of the times, or propaganda, is it still the will of the people?

      • Kelly Lape

        When propaganda from a foreign power is deliberately designed to misrepresent postilions or people to the electorate in an effort to benefit the foreign power it is an attack.

        • Tor

          I agree it’s an attack and I’m not saying it’s not happening, but I’m also concerned about attacks from the inside by the likes of like the Mercers, the Kochs, the de Voses, the Aileses, the Murdochs.
          Here’s a list of other right-wing billionaires who own congress.
          https://www.forbes.com/2010/10/21/billionaire-politics-donors-republicans-koch-murdoch-trump-wealth.html
          Hardly the “will of the people,” but we elect their candidates, anyway.

          • David L. Caster

            This is in large measure because money is now considered speech in the US. The more of it the oligarchs have the louder and more pervasive their words.

          • Tor

            BINGO!

          • Strepsi

            Yes Tor – and those people are certainly not Americans, they’re “global citizens” (or at least their money is!)

          • Kelly Lape

            A founding father once wrote about the blood of tyrants… I’m pretty sure that’s why they’ve stopped teaching civics in public schools.

    • Strepsi

      …and who would have thought that foreign power would be Australia?!

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8b0d1b201fb8267bca43189456004e631efb9fa12bb4b52584fa3442ea2cc146.jpg

  • bkmn

    Perhaps the billionaires (including Putin) put their money behind Brexit (and the US election) to sow discord to strengthen Putin’s hand.

    • Ross

      Perhaps?

    • David J

      More than a safe bet here. As the evolution of the internet has transpired over the last 20 or so years, from the early days of AOL to the days of Netflix and Facebook and Twitter and YouTube and C-Span on-line, Russia has been watching and “harvesting” the fruits of our open-market free garden, picking the best crops or lowest-hanging fruits to their own advantage, while the USA boasted about how we had “invented” the world-wide web through $$ to our own defense contractors. Do you think a Trojan Horse might look just like all the OTHER horses in Troy?

  • james1200

    Brexit happened for the same reason Trump happened: Europe was turning black and brown and the UK wanted to put a stop to it. That’s what the xenophobia is about and it started in Europe and migrated here, giving us Trump. The joke is, of course, on Europe and us. If it wasn’t for immigration, the population of Europe would be in collapse (like Japan’s) and if it wasn’t for Latino birth rates in the U.S. the same would start happening here. Someone needs to tell the Xenophobes that a declining birth rate and no immigration means no one to pay for their pensions and the retirement age continually getting extended (also a collapsing society in general.)

    • AmeriCanadian

      It’s almost like you’re describing a pyramid scheme. Nah.

      • james1200

        I mean, it is. So is the stock market. But as long as people have faith in the system, it works.

        • AmeriCanadian

          Yes and as we all know, pyramid schemes fail, and they fail BIG(LY). Uncontrolled growth in nature is usually called cancer. Humans have become the biggest tumor on this planet. We’re on the fast track to outgrow and completely destroy our host.

          • David L. Caster

            The analogy with cancer is not quite applicable to animal populations. When a habitat can no longer support a species there is a die off. Such a species may even become extinct.

          • Strepsi

            Breeders are the worst.

    • The_Wretched

      Restructure society to value all the citizens and you can run an economy with a decreasing population.

      • james1200

        Work everyone ’til they drop dead (hopefully in their 80’s) and tax them at a 90% rate and sure you can.

        • I’m 55 and I’m not planning to retire until I’m 70 or my hearing goes out on me (whichever comes LAST). Retire? I’m not going to be able to afford that, even assuming that there’s still social security by the time I turn 65.

      • shivadog

        Sooner or later it will have to be done. The world is already horribly overpopulated, we can’t just continue to increase population. (actually we will probably do nothing about it and war, famine or disease will take care of it in a much more awful way than if we simply controlled our population)

        • I was just thinking today (it was a sucky day so excuse me for getting so dark) that Gene Roddenberry was probably right and we’re probably going to have WW3 that kills off a lot of us before humans decide to leave our all racist and other bullshit in the past. I hope it doesn’t come to that but I don’t see how we avoid it as the extremes keep getting more extreme.

        • Paul

          News reports are stating that the ISIS/AQ war could spread to Africa. I believe that Africa is the fastest-growing continent. Your theory might be tested there, sadly 🙁

    • Friday’s_cat

      At least one AM Hate Radio presenter has admonished WASPs to get fucking lest they become a minority.

    • juanjo54

      Odd how you say that yet the comments I consistently heard in the UK from people supporting Brexit were about the Polish, Spanish, Italian and “Eastern Europeans” who were working in the UK.

      • Strepsi

        Yes, they do hate the Poles, Hungarians and Romanians. But the cam modelling industry would be nothing without them!

        • juanjo54

          BTW my husband is an engineer working in Manchester right now. His landlady hates Italians but did not realize he was one because he has a US and an EU passport and only showed her the US one.

    • Strepsi

      The flows of the world are changing – for the first time, Africa overtook Europe as the continent bringing the most immigrants to Canada.

      • I would to say that people from West Africa are my favorite international students. They speak English more beautifully than anyone else and are very well mannered and polite. They are welcome any time as far as I’m concerned.

    • Librarykid

      And it is just one more ripple through the world’s nations caused by climate change disturbing the ability to farm in naturally hotter regions. Rural people moved to already overcrowded cities and unrest ensued along with hunger and thirst. Disturbances and wars broke out which led to refugees heading north. Northern European countries did not like the waves of refugees nor their impact of their societies.

    • -M-

      That. And Putin using and encouraging it.

  • PickyPony
    • Butch

      Here in the UP, the joke has to do with the last words before most car accidents: Hold my beer, I’m gonna try something.

      • BJORN RAGNVALDR

        Here it’s;
        What are rednecks last words?
        Hey Bubba, hold my beer and watch this!

    • The Milkman

      “Hide and watch, henny. Hide and watch.”

  • Max_1
    • Librarykid

      Maybe, but he thought he would never get caught if he sued hard enough.

  • HZ81

    Haaaaa!!!

    100% true.

  • Uncle Mark

    Why isn’t Bloomberg combining his billions with others to lobby for Trump’s removal, instead of attacking the soda industry? The Orange Scourge should be taking top priority…given the long term damage he’s done in such a short time.

  • Harveyrabbit

    “single stupidest thing any country has ever done”

    Might have been very stupid but not stupidest. I can think of a lot of wars started by countries that have had (and continue to have) pretty fucking bad consequences.

    • -M-

      None of them turned the overwhelmingly dominant military and economic power worldwide into a rogue state with doomsday weapons before.

  • Lars Littlefield

    Compare Bloomberg with Juliana. You’re welcome.

  • billbear1961

    https://youtu.be/icb0URLad-k

    From morning till evening, in care and fear,
    unblest, I worked for its winning!
    The night is nigh:
    from all its ills it offers shelter now.
    So greet I this home,
    safe from dismay and dread!

    • PickyPony
      • billbear1961

        Hello, sweetie! XO

        You are Picky PONY, now?!

    • Librarykid

      That Leitmotif for Valhalla is so beautiful and majestic, completely masking all of the evil that went into its construction, sort of like one of 45’s projects. Wotan thought he could beat the odds, but the truth came out and the Rheingold was returned to the Rhinemaidens while everything else was cleansed by fire. It is so interesting that the whole operatic epic begins and ends on the same note of E flat, heard in the undulating Rhine waves at the beginning of Rheingold and again at the end of the Redemption through Love theme at the end of Gotterdammerung. How much will 45 and the
      GOP be like Wotan and his family and associates? Who will be Fasolt and Fafner? I think Bannon is Alberich.

  • Judas Peckerwood

    Um, I’m pretty sure that the voters of 1930s Germany made an even bigger and stupider mistake.

    • Jeffg166

      So far they win. So far.

      • -M-

        To be fair: There were no nukes at the time much less two or three countries with arsenals that could literally wipe out the human race and at least half a dozen with the potential to set off a nuclear war.

        The Germans made a catastrophically bad decision, but they had little reason to think it could turn out any worse than the First World War.

        We screwed up while knowing that Putin is trying to reassemble the soviet empire only more corrupt, that crazies like Kim Jong un and the al Qaeda spinoffs are running around, that Iran could tip toward either engagement or extremism, etc…

    • billbear1961

      Remember they never gave Hitler a majority in an honest election!

      Hindenburg made him chancellor in a chaotic political situation on the advice of conservatives who thought they could “manage” him!

      Just two months later, using the Nazi-staged Reichstag Fire (which occurred a month after he was appointed chancellor) as an excuse, Hitler bullied parliament into giving him the two-thirds majority vote he needed to gain what were supposed to be temporary emergency powers for him and his Cabinet to rule by decree. Only the 100-some members of the Social Democratic party voted NO, which prompted a tirade from Hitler against them and all “communist traitors”!!

      Even then there were limits imposed on him by this Enabling Act, limits he promptly violated–NO ONE in the Reichstag even TRIED to stop him. The courts were still, at that early time, honest, but no one challenged him in the courts–NO ONE!!

      Like THIS benighted, defenseless Republic, degraded, outraged DAILY before our very eyes, where not ONE prominent elected voice speaks out loudly, 24/7, in proud defense of democracy against a demented and racist pathological LIAR, where the “free” press is NORMALIZING fascism as they normalized Trump, Weimar was abandoned by a pack of shameless COWARDS!!

      NO ONE–no politician, no voice from the Fourth Estate–organizes the sane MAJORITY to protest relentlessly, in massive numbers, against an INFAMOUS betrayal of our democracy!!

      • William

        Thank you. I’m not in the mood to type my ‘The Germans never elected Hitler’ rant.

        • billbear1961

          I don’t know how much longer I’ll bother to post, William–the protests needed NOW to save this republic just aren’t happening, and I don’t think they’re GOING to happen.

          It’s tragic, and DISGUSTING.

      • Judas Peckerwood

        No, voters never elected Hitler directly, but they did give the Nazis the most seats in the Reichstag, which accomplished the same thing.

        • William

          In the final election before everything went to shit, the Nazi party lost seats from the previous election.

          • Judas Peckerwood

            But were still the biggest party in the Reichstag.

          • billbear1961

            Yes, they had more seats than any other single party (but never a majority in a democratic Reichstag), but the infamous Enabling Act, which, in effect, made Hitler dictator and finally killed off the Weimar Republic in all but name, required and GOT a two-thirds majority vote in the Reichstag (actually far more than the two-thirds majority needed).

            If you haven’t seen this, take a look, JP:

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enabling_Act_of_1933

          • William

            The Enabling Act, what we call the Patriot Act.

          • William

            They didn’t have much chance of a solid coalition, A few more snap elections and they might have been out.

    • Librarykid

      Yes, the Nazis campaigned against homosexuality and abortion and for law and order. Sound like a party in your area?

  • geoffalnutt

    Putin: divide and conquer. It’s happening all over the world.

  • JWC

    Cause as much infighting, insecurity and division within a country Pit minority against minority Its how Putin wins

  • Elaygee

    Making China Great Again

  • Jean-Marc in Canada

    He’s not wrong. What Putin helped come to pass in the UK will have dire consequences for years to come. Again, the west was playing checkers while Putin was playing chess. Russians, for all their faults, are patient, long game players…you underestimate them at your peril; as both Brexit and the US election have shown. Stop playing as if you’re on the same board.

    • JWC

      and wake up and realize it

    • boatboy_srq

      Notice who Putin played, too: UKIP, the Teahad, and Rajoy and the Catalan parliament. None of them exactly screaming lefties. All the McCarthyite chest-thumping over Western liberalism seems so very misplaced when it’s been the Conservatists who have been so thoroughly had by Russia.

      I’m waiting for Putin to stir up the IRA, the Basques and the Roma just for grins and giggles.

      • Bunter

        In the EU, everybody still associates Putin with the USSR because he was a KGB agent. The more left leaning parties are traditionally Russia friendly until today. It took me a while to comprehend that Putin is in bed with the neo-fascist movements (Hungary, France etc). and I’m probably not alone.

        • boatboy_srq

          PRECISELY. One would expect Putin to be able to manipulate the Left, and for the Right to be suspicious of him and of Russia out of habit. Instead, it’s the RIGHT who got played – and astonishingly easily.

          • Bunter

            The left gets manipulated too, and the right probably knows about Putin’s connections to Dugin and other New Right figures.

          • boatboy_srq

            I doubt the US Right is nearly so aware as that. Their own backers aren’t well known outside the innermost circles, and they would not have been played nearly so easily as has been shown if they were aware of the international connections. That’s what is so gobsmacking about all this: the political branch that lives and breathes paranoia about the Left is getting led around by the nose by extranational parties on their own side of the aisle.

            Then again they could be stupid enough to take without question or hesitation any help they could get to squash Those Other People because Suck It Libtards. Which would make them even less observant and intelligent than we have implied in this conversation.

    • David L. Caster

      So is Iran and China.

  • MikeBx2
    • coram nobis

      Maybe he dated someone called Ivy in college.

    • boatboy_srq

      The quintessential “public school boy.”

    • Thorn Spike

      He’s civil, all right. Grab-em-by-the-pussy civil.

    • JWC

      hey Trumpy lad your story and we are stuck with it

    • William

      Daddy Fred bought Donnie an Ivy League degree.

    • TangierOrange

      Trump puts a lie to the presumed moral or intellectual superiority of millionaires and/or ivy-league graduates.

    • greenmanTN

      Please. In Brit-speak (via TV anyway) Donnie is thick as two short planks. A thickie!

  • Duh-David

    Will anyone be surprised when we find out that Brexit, Trump, Catalonia, et al. were all in the Russian playbook to destabilize the world to their financial benefit?

    • FAEN

      No.

  • Pete Wascher

    sad to see fighters (e.g., strauss, mccain, corker, flake) leaving, but could be a boon to democrats if republicans nominate extremists and democrats field strong leaders causing independents to switch to democrats.

    • FAEN

      ‘Fighters’ who vote with Trump more than not. I agree it could be a boon but it will depend on geography and candidates.

    • Natty Enquirer

      Yeah, it’s not like they would ever vote for an extremist.

  • FuzzyOtter

    No arguments here

  • Max_1
  • FAEN

    My aunt and her partner voted for Brexit and I’m still pissed at them for it. Purely for economic reasons but still, I’m pissed.

    Last week a German acquaintance who is liberal pro LGBT, anti Trump spoke about how she hated that Merkel had won another term and how the other guy(white nationalist)would have been better since all ‘those people’ are being allowed to come into Germany and cause problems. It was pointed out to her that that’s the way Trump supporters think which genuinely threw her for a loop.

    My rambling point being that if educated, well travelled people can be manipulated and/or still have this irrational prejudice towards refugees, most of whom are women and children, I’m not surprised people less travelled and less educated are falling for this BS hook line and sinker.

    • whollyfool

      very good point. Wish i knew the answer. :/

      • David L. Caster

        I believe the source is learned mental laziness and its close relative learned helplessness.

      • FAEN

        I do too 🙁

    • Mikey

      the “economic” reasons they were given were pure BS, as well.
      that whole thing about the EU every day costing the UK what the entire UK healthcare budget was, pure unadulterated BS, and they sold Brexit on that.

      There were city buses with that logo and HUGE numbers printed on the sides about how Brexit would fund the national health plan for years.

      • FAEN

        My aunt’s partner is a builder and he kept saying because of the EU he couldn’t compete with Polish builders who were flooding the UK, doing half a job and then moving on. I don’t know enough about the building industry there so I was a little at a disadvantage but I did express my annoyance and disgust that they were voting for nationalism instead of diversity.

        • Bunter

          I agree with you but I still think that the complaints and problems are valid. Some industries in the EU are in great upheaval because of the lack of borders. It’s all very complicated. But Brexit was still a stupid idea.

  • Blake J Butler

    Just realized Leslie Jordan was in Jason goes to hell: the final friday. A bright spot for the top movies i hate in the friday the 13th series.

    • William

      Betsy Palmer was great.

  • Lazycrockett

    In Russia Stupid finds you.

  • Blake J Butler
  • Ragnar Lothbrok

    OT – Nice family

    ( it’s not the Fla Brother )

    https://twitter.com/AP/status/923219920678215681

    • William

      Their father was described by the FBI as being a psychopath. Could there be something amiss in the DNA?

      • Pip

        One does have to wonder.

  • Lazycrockett
    • JWC

      didn’t TRump once ask Putin for Hillary’s 30,000 deleted e-mails

    • Treant

      And nobody will do jack about it, so why bother reporting this shit?

  • Blake J Butler
    • JRDC

      Gillespie’s gonna win. That’s how Virginia works.

      • Blake J Butler

        Virginia is a purple turning blue state, if democrats are unified and turnout is high, Northam will win.

        Gillespie is spending time with country bumpkins that want stone age jobs that are never coming back to their area, and courting suburban college educated voters that he may have a shot at, but not with voters of color and independents which are being led by northam along with unified support that if they hold will suppport Northam to win, hopefully downballot with democratic wins.

        Pessimistic much ? because it sure as hell is not realistic given he has a good shot to win compared to gillespie.

        • JRDC

          Gillespie is polished. I hate the guy and hope he dies soon, but Northam is not as sneaky and good ‘ol as Gillespie.

  • Lazycrockett

    Drumpf is babbling again.

  • JRDC
    • Lazycrockett

      Shiplap is fucking tacky.

      • JRDC

        No! I LOVE shiplap!!!!

        • William

          It was cute 30 years ago.

          • JRDC

            Times have changed!!! They just need really nice corbel embellishments.

    • William

      Does this mean he will come out?

    • JCF

      Dafuq is this?

  • Lazycrockett

    Lord hes making the death of a soldier all bout him.

    • Mike_in_the_Tundra

      Everything is always about him.

      • JCF

        Everything, Always, Forever and Ever. Amen.

  • Blake J Butler
    • billbear1961

      We will certainly believe Sgt. Johnson’s widow, his mother and their longtime friend Rep. Wilson before we believe YOU, you relentless, PROVEN pathological LIAR!!

    • OdieDenCO

      donny called La David? does he have a direct line to the after life?

  • Hue-Man

    It makes it so much easier for other countries to recruit the best minds when the U.S. and U.K. close their borders. Today’s headline:
    21.9% of Canadians are immigrants, the highest share in 85 years: StatsCan
    http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/census-2016-immigration-1.4368970
    BTW, U.S. foreign-born population (2010) – 12.9%.
    U.K. foreign-born population (2011) – 12.7%

  • William

    Why can’t Theresa May admit the whole Brexit issue was paid for with Russian money and cancel the motherfucker?

    • David L. Caster

      She is an idiot, as was Parliament. The vote was advisory not binding. Brexit was a total failure of leadership.

  • Bloomberg exaggerates!

    You’d think that Germany’s mid-20th century invasion of Russia was arguably more stupid than Brexit, especially since the Germans did have the previous example of the time that Napoleon’s France tried the same thing a bit over a century earlier.

    There are many, many other decisions throughout history that might be candidates for the “single stupidest thing any country has ever done” that would make Brexit look like a walk in the park.

    How about Russia’s decision to sell Alaska to the United States? Great decision by Seward, not such a great decision by the Russians . . .

    Any other candidates?

    • David J

      Thanks for that! You have a better perspective on human history over the last 150-200 years than the majority of people now alive do. However, when Germany invaded Russia, they thought they had both technology and military strength on their side, probably as did Napoleon 130 years or so previously. Somehow, however, those decisions involved only a handful of men, ( only men of immense means), acting in non-democratic nations, at times when scant medical technology almost guaranteed horrendous death tolls, heck they couldn’t even predict the next day’s local weather back then before radar and satellites. WE (and the UK) are not such a nation. We have more tools, we don’t leave decisions about who will rule up to only a handful of autocrats, (at least in the design of how we are governed, although it may eventually sort down to a bunch of ill-informed few together with a corruption of the election systems). We should know better than all of those precursors, we should think more eloquently, more from information than from fantasy or mythology, but somehow we still don’t. SAD.

      • William

        Hitler wasted time on attempting to capture Leningrad when he should have demanded the capture of Moscow. Stalin was drunk in a Kremlin bunker waiting for the German army to arrive. Moscow had been evacuated and was nearly undefended.

        The siege of Stalingrad was another major screw up.

    • edrex

      would you feel better if he had added, “recently?”

    • 20th Century —
      Almost all of the involved Germany. 1941 – Invading Russia I think was the biggest.
      Hitler also should not have declared was on the USA. Congress was perfectly comfortable with defeating Japan — and remaining neutral in Europe after Pearl Harbor.
      1939 – Invading Poland (Hitler probably would have gotten the Danzig corridor anyway). Germany would have been a “weltstadt” without world war 2. Greater Germany’s population would have been 90 million compared to 130 million in the USA — quite powerful.
      1914 – Germany could have agreed to Belgium’s neutrality and not brought Britain into the first world war, they may have won
      1919 – Versailles was a huge miscalculation. It laid the groundwork for a bloodier World War 2. It was a very tough treaty on Germany.
      How about Hitler’s decision not to pursue an atomic bomb since physics was too “jewish” a science?
      What would have happened if Germany did not adopt official anti semitism – and all the German / Austrian / Hungarian refugee scientists (Teller, Oppenheimer, Szilard, even Einstein others) who worked in Los Alamos worked for a revitalized Germany instead?
      Russia had a big one in 1906- They thought they could walk over Japan. They lost big time, setting in series the events that made the Russian revolution inevitable.
      Japan in 1941 – Pearl Harbor was a huge mistake.
      USA in 1964 – The Vietnam War was an avoidable disaster.
      History is great with alternative scenarios, isn’t it?

    • JCF

      Again, Joanna, I suggest “in the 21st century” addition.*

      * I’m sure some will bring up Dubya’s invasion of Iraq. OK, the 2nd decade of the 21st century!

    • Ann Kah

      Recent history, please. Don’t nitpick.

      • But it was Michael Bloomberg making an outlandish and overbroad “Supersize” claim.

  • coram nobis

    The History of Stupid 101.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/shortcuts/2017/oct/25/whats-the-stupidest-thing-a-nation-has-ever-done

    Now, class, Barbara Tuchman’s March of Folly and The Guns of August will be on the reading list.

  • No More GOP.

    Brexit and electing Trump are two truly self-destructive national actions, for sure. Trump is the more immediately painful one for us, and certainly more dangerous to the well-being of the world at large… at least in the near term.

    • David J

      Quite correct, so let’s get rid of this ogre once and for all, GTMO has some empty cells, I hear.

  • GanymedeRenard

    Cueing Catalonia…

  • Professor Barnhardt

    Some other bonehead ventures might be in the running.

  • Mikey

    There’s a lot in common between those two bonehead moves: the public were repeatedly lied to, by both the politicians involved, and the media.

    • JCF

      And the Russians were extensively (subversively) involved!

      • David Gervais

        I’m really slow on the uptake, I didn’t put this together. My BF just told me that he’s seeing far fewer trolls online today, right after that virus hit the Russian and Ukrainian networks

      • Ann Kah

        I’m in favor of free speech, but with that should go the knowledge of who the speaker is.

  • I know there’s a lot to criticize Bloomberg for, but he’s a smart guy and unlike Trump he really is a billionaire and didn’t come from money. He built that himself. If we were going to elect a billionaire businessman for president (and I’m not saying that we ever should) he wold have been a infinitely better choice than Dump.

  • sfmike64

    Apparently old Mike doesn’t know about China’s “Great Leap Forward.” Which was neither great or a leap forward. Mllions died of starvation.

    • JCF

      If he’d said “in the 21st century”, would that make ya happy? Sometimes hyperbole can be useful.

    • SDG

      I don’t recall Mao being “elected”…

  • Ann Kah

    Stupidity has been enshrined as a virtue. Education is suspect, common sense is extremely uncommon, and the morons will inherit the earth.