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Newsweek reports:

President Donald Trump renewed his attacks on the mainstream media and Hillary Clinton on Twitter Saturday. The president seemingly was responding to news reports about Russian efforts to use social media in an apparent effort to influence the 2016 presidential election.

There were reportedly 3,000 ads linked to Russia that were placed on Facebook. (There were also other ads on other key sites, such as Google and its video platform, YouTube.) The Facebook ads reportedly aimed to spread disinformation and took many forms while addressing so-called wedge issues, like the Second Amendment and gay rights.

“The ads and accounts we found appeared to amplify divisive political issues across the political spectrum,” Joel Kaplan, Facebook vice president for U.S. public policy, told The New York Times early this month. The intelligence community has assessed that Russia worked to get Trump elected through hacks designed to hurt Clinton and an influence campaign to fan voter fears.

  • bkmn

    FB will make money off of stories about both sides and filter it to you according to your known preferences via their algorithm. FB doesn’t take sides but there was no large entity, other than Russia, trying to throw the election.

    • Adam King

      Of course. But keep in mind, Turmp is an idiot who thinks every person or corporate entity is either on his side or on Hillary’s side. That is his entire understanding of how things work.

    • Phillip in L.A.

      Diebold?

      • Ross

        To this day, people have ignored Diebold’s possible stealing of the 2004 vote.

  • HZ81

    But, Hillary!!! But, but, Hillary!!!

    Every fucking day, President Shitty Pampers is crying about this Hillary person.

    (Also, Berners 2020—’But, Hillary’ is a slogan you’re currently running with as well. Not trying top start a fight, but time to move on.)

    • Lawerence Collins

      Mr. Sanders is the top person polling, and he’s the number one politician in the country. You’re starting to sound like a Republican. That’s not your position. Is it?

      • FAEN

        If Bernie Sanders doesn’t win the nominee spot will his followers protest vote again?

      • JustDucky

        Joe Biden wasn’t included on the poll you’re citing. Here’s one that includes him:

        Former Vice President Joe Biden defeats Trump 54 percent to 39 percent
        Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders defeats Trump 52 percent to 39 percent

        http://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/2020-poll-Harris-beats-Trump-but-others-beat-11297401.php

        And while Bernie Sanders has the highest favorability rating if you look at polling averages (by 1.4%), Uncle Joe has a higher spread (he beats Bernie by 1.8%) because Bernie also has a higher unfavorable rating
        (his unfavorable rating is 3.2% higher than Biden’s).

        And if you look at the last poll that included both Bernie and Uncle Joe, Bernie fared even worse against him. Bernie had a 53% favorability rating with a +17 spread and Uncle Joe had a 55% favorability rating with a +23% spread.

        So if your primary concern really is polling data, you’re backing the wrong horse.

        http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/joe-biden-favorable-rating

        https://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/bernie-sanders-favorable-rating

        • FAEN

          Facts are so pesky.

        • Lawerence Collins

          If Joe Biden was the nominee and I trusted his platform, not the one the establishment Democrats have now. I’d vote for him
          I’m a Democratic Socialist. I must’ve always been one. Sadly I never took the time, in years past to educate myself on politicians voting records.
          I’m for a $15.00 minimum wage.
          I’m for women controlling their own bodies.
          I’m for strick gun control.
          I’m for indigenous peoples rights.
          I’m for the rights of all LGBT rights.
          Citizens United must be repealed.
          I’m for same day voter registration.
          I think superdelegates are way outdated.
          I think the DNC’s budget should be for all to see.
          Gerrymandering should be illegal.
          Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid should strengthened and payments raised.
          Just a few off the top of my thoughts.

          • JustDucky

            But that’s not the argument you were making, is it? Your argument was that the rest of us should disregard what we don’t like about Bernie because of his poll numbers. And now here you are saying that Joe Biden’s better-than-Bernie poll numbers aren’t enough. That makes you a hypocrite.

            Oh, and Bernie’s depraved indifference in the wake of the Newtown massacre is what initially cost him my vote in the primary. So just like every other Democratic candidate, he doesn’t match your list perfectly.

            But guess what? That. Doesn’t. Matter. We have a two party system. If we don’t elect the Democratic candidate, the Republican candidate will be the president. And the Republican candidate won’t just disagree with you (and me) on a couple of important issues. The Republican candidate will disagree with you on all of the important issues. Voting third party or refusing to vote will ensure change for the worse on most of the issues you claim matter to you. That is the reality in which we live. Don’t like it? Work to change it. But until that change has already happened, you either suck it up and do the right thing or you are proving that you don’t actually give a shit about any of the issues.

      • HZ81

        Wherever Bernie is besmirched, Bernie troll Lawrence Collins bravely flies/lies in to protect the High Sparrow.

        Retire to the bot farm, already—and go fuck yourself, you GOP-enabling, “Identity politics is bad” white-supremacist, quisling fuckface loser. Have a good night, too.

        • Todd20036

          I blocked that fucker. Otherwise, I might punch my monitor.

          • HZ81

            He’s a Bernie troll. Troll gotta troll. I gotta bag on them. But a block is a good idea. So boring.

        • Joseph Miceli

          I get it that the Bernie Bros were total fucking idiots in not voting for Hilz, but that was like 8 percent of Bernie’s fans. Remember the Hillary addicts who behaved in a similar manner back in 2000 for Barry?
          I just think that all the hate aimed at Bernie is misguided and it is the one thing I hate about this site. This is the “Everyone Hate Bernie 24/7 Site” when Bernie is fighting for what I thought were iconic Progressive goals.
          Last election is over. Yes, let’s focus on the next election and let’s run the BEST candidate. If it’s Bernie then run him. If it’s Biden go for it…but this internal bickering doesn’t help.

          • cleos_mom

            Hillary Clinton was not running in 2000.

          • Joseph Miceli

            Sorry..no coffee yet. President Obama’s election in 2008. Will amend.

          • HZ81

            I’ll always vote for the Democratic candidate, even if it’s Bernie who seems repulsed by the idea of being a Democrat, but I refuse to pretend to like him for the sake of “unity” to make people who sat home, helping to set progress back a generation, feel good about their shitty choices.

            He’s an egotistical, math-challenged, conspiracy-theory loving fuck who wants to put us and minorities on the back-burner to get white people back who fucking aren’t coming back. Talk about misguided. It’s repulsive.

            He was a shitty candidate and he’s a horrible, bitter little troll. And, scene!

          • Joseph Miceli

            Well that’s almost exactly how I felt about Hillary but I voted for her. Sometimes you do the right thing because it’s the right thing not because it’s easy .

        • Lawerence Collins

          I’m no Bernie troll. You sound like what I used to be. A total establishment lemming. Then I educated myself with facts. Please tell me, what I’ve lied about??
          I was duped by Obamas Hope&Change lie. He made the rich, richer and gave us mostly crumbs.
          He had the power to implement Medicare for all. Or even single payer.
          I’m grateful for the ACA/Obamacare. It saved my life. But I can award good policies and be critical at the same time.
          The only ones enabling the GOP thugs are people like you.
          Why are journalists in other countries able to hold politicians accountable and here they can’t!?
          The mainstream media here is all corporate owned.
          Hate me now, I hope one day you have the break through I and millions of other Americans have had.
          Just recently President Obama said he’s actually a moderate Republican in his views.

          • HZ81

            ZZZ, please, troll. Anytime someone brings up Bernie you’re there to defend your fucked up, do -nothing hero. Go back to pushing TYT videos. Republican-funded TYT videos at that—then complain about how everyone else helps the GOP while your clown car continues to drive off a cliff.

            And I really don’t hate you. I kinda feel bad for you, but you and yours are just fuckheads.

            Also, lemmings don’t do the things lemmings are said to do. You’re welcome. Now, fuck off.

          • Lawerence Collins

            Yup, you sound just like I used to a few years ago here. Some guy would make critical post about the Clintons and Obama. I’d totally dismiss his post, out of hand. Then I looked into her record, what she was actually saying versus what she did.
            TYT isn’t Russian funded. You sound like a marketing person.
            Blank is popular, soon everything is blank flavored or is made with blank.
            I feel bad for you. I was nauseous, like I’d been punched. In learning about the Clintons and how Obama gave hope & change, but to the rich.
            Like finding out there’s no Santa.

            A major point you missed. I voted for Obama twice. I even took the advice of one of The Young Turks creators. Host, Cenk Yuger. He Laid out why people needed to vote for Hillary Clinton. He laid out why third party candidates weren’t viable at that point. He also said each person had to make their own choice.
            Cheers.

          • HZ81

            Still a snore and a tool.

            I said TYT was Republican-funded, not Russian-funded. Now please try and tell me that’s not true.

            They’ve been pulling the”What, Russia?” nonsense and pushing the GOP-created Uranium smear right along with their fellow right-wing and DSC tools as of yesterday—with the help of boobs like you.

            So you went from voting for Obama twice to pushing right-wing echo chamber nonsense in the span of a few years? Quite an achievement.

            Must be so proud of yourself. Willingly or unwillingly, you’re a right-wing tool.

            Cheers, indeed. Enjoy Mueller Monday with Cenk, Jimmy, Michael Tracy and the rest of the dolt-left whack pack.

      • Ross

        Initially, I was kinda intrigued with Bernie. I liked a lot of what he was saying. I even took one of those political compatibility tests and scored 99% with Bernie (84% with Hillary).

        Then I studied his actual achievements.

        Oh.

        Oh dear.

        Then I watched, in horror, as he trashed Hillary with unfounded accusations.

        Then I watched, in horror, as he trashed the Democratic Party.

        Then I watched, in horror, his actions and words since the election.

        Today?

        I loathe Bernie with a white-hot passion. I LOATHE HIM.

        • UrsusArctos 🐻

          I’m like you. in that a lot of Bernie’s appeal is reminding Democrats that they once stood for ideas, but saw he didn’t go too far beyond proposing ideas.
          I viewed him as a useful tool to serve as a wake up call the the Clintonistas that this election was NOT going to be a coronation and voted for him in this reddest of states in the primary, but always knew I’d have to vote HRC in the general unless I wanted crazy. Unfortunately the upper echelons of the Democratic party kept the wrong threat in their sights. There’s blame enough to go around. I wish Democrats would get out the Preparation H, get over their sore asses, and start working to drive 45* and the GOP off the political landscape instead of nursing bruises from ’16.

          • fuow

            Yes! This!
            I am so fucking sick and tired of this nonsense that somehow or other staying home or voting 3rd party (Green) will ‘teach’ us Democrats anything.
            All it accomplishes is to put christers and rethugs in power.
            That’s ALL it accomplishes.

          • cleos_mom

            There’s blame enough to go around

            The cutesy branch of the Bothsider Community. Everyone looks forward to seeing them at the family reunion.

          • UrsusArctos 🐻

            Nope. I said NOTHING about that “equal blame” garbage. I’m talking about the need to stop snarking at anyone pointing out that both sides need to SFTU, get working together or it will be 8 years of 45* – then a generation or two of clawing back to reach the levels of equality/sanity of 2016.
            Either camp can feel free to assign blame as they feel the need. THEN set that crap aside and vote to push these assholes out of power. I didn’t say anything about needing to mend feelings and reach “Kum-By-Ya”. Fuck that. Democrats need to get to “the enemy of my enemy can be my ally to take them down, then we can settle scores between ourselves” stage. Doesn’t sound like a family reunion to me.

        • Joseph Miceli

          But Bernie was right. Forcing Dems to actually BE Progressive and not just “Republican light” took a real effort and bruised some egos but it was worth it. What wasn’t worth it was the poor tactics of not conceding and not getting fully behind Hillary sooner. The Bernie Bros are also morons for not voting for her.
          I have no problem “trashing” bankster Dems. I have a problem with not coming together in the end to trounce Donald. For that and that alone I ding Bernie.

          • Ross

            There is a big difference between ideas and accomplishments.

            Bernie has a lot of progressive ideas. He has however almost zilch regarding progressive accomplishments.

            Hillary? She has a long career of progressive accomplishments. Just one example? Her getting healthcare for eight million children.

            So, no, Bernie didn’t force Hillary to become more progressive. Hillary WAS progressive, and more so than Bernie.

            To me, actions speak far louder than words.

          • Joseph Miceli

            Not taking anything away from Hillary. She has been the most unjustly vilified politician in the modern age. ..but I will have to disagree with you. He did force her on tuition, civil rights and single payer. She was Never more Progressive than Bernie. That’s re-writing history.

          • Ross

            Please provide a single accomplishment of Bernie that is anywhere near as progressive as providing, for just one example, health care for eight million children.

            And that unjust vilification you mentioned? Bernie played a part in that.

          • Joseph Miceli

            Arguing Bernie’s virtues on this site is like trying to argue Hillary’s virtues on Breitbart . Neither you nor virtually anyone else here is open-minded enough to Even contemplate that you might be wrong . When it comes to Bernie this site has one reaction : attack . Frankly I think I am masochistic just to even post about it .

          • Ross

            I notice that you did not respond to my question.

          • Joseph Miceli

            Thank you very much for using John McCain’s argument against Barack Obama . History does repeat itself .

        • cleos_mom

          I’ll see your loathing and raise an outright hate. Had that card to play since a year ago last spring.

        • Lawerence Collins

          Then you must really loathe President Obama. He and his campaign were ruthless in their “attacks” on Hillary. All mainstream media as well. Do you know that establishment darling JoyAnne Reid once called her insane?
          You must know nothing of Bernie Sanders Record. He’s been for the working poor and middle class for over fifty years. He’s so humble. He often lets others take the credit for his accomplishments. His campaign stuck to policies and facts. He refused to in a debate to “go after her”!
          Hate is nothing but fear. Why are you afraid of what Bernie Sanders stands for?!?
          Are you aware of what he stands for?

          • Ross

            I am well aware of what Bernie stands for.

            That was not however my concern.

            My concern is: what has he accomplished?

            I notice that you did not list any of his accomplishments.

      • fuow

        Christ on toast – haven’t you done enough damage to this country already?

      • FAEN

        Still waiting on an answer to my question.

      • TheManicMechanic

        You were more likeable when you would come up with your own acronyms for Republicans.

  • Blake Mason
    • Lawerence Collins

      I agree 💯 %.
      Credit to who wrote it.. 🎉🎉

      • AC

        Fuck Lawerence Collins, the troll so stupid he can’t even spell his own name

        • Todd20036

          Blocked him back when it became obvious Clinton wasn’t “perfect” enough for him.

          Now he’s pissed about Trump, even though he indirectly voted for him

          Boo fucking hoo

        • Lars Littlefield

          LOL

        • JustDucky

          You mean Влад? ‘Cause I’m about 70% sure his real name is Влад. Or maybe Михаил. Михаил is a very popular name in Moscow.

          I mean seriously, his raison d’etre is to attempt to sow discord here and, as you noted, he can’t spell his handle (and Lawrence, spelled correctly, is still typically a surname — Laurence is a much more common first name in the English speaking world), he botches common English idioms (he called me “short sided“), and when I prompted him, he wasn’t able to come up with a list of liberal English language media sources. So… yeah.

          • JackFknTwist

            Interesting critique.

          • Mike Solo

            He also uses really short and simple sentence structure. Having learned to speak Russian, they tend to do this when their English usage is mainly written and not spoken.

          • DaddyRay

            It is also easier to translate short sentence structures in translation apps.

          • JT

            Idioms will give you away. Nicely done.

            Actually, “Lawrence” is more common, in the US especially.

          • Acronym Jim

            Short sided? Are you sure he wasn’t just admiring your narrow hips?

    • JAKvirginia

      And a man who displays his weaknesses so publicly is a man who can be played.

      • DesertSun59

        Which is what Mueller is exposing.

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      • JackFknTwist

        Keep it simple, dude. Trump/turd is just a whiney old bolloix.

        He whines at the TV and passes the fallout of his Fox binging.

        • Galvestonian

          Yeah, but so many people out there, you know who I mean … the farmers, the country people, those people who have decent simple jobs, those that work hard to support their families, the salt of the earth, you know who I mean — the morons who voted for Trump — they actually believe him when he says ‘FAKE NEWS’ – they really think that old well established news networks , the networks that have been around for nearly 100 years actually lie and distort facts, networks that supposedly don’t tell the ‘true’ news according the TRUMP. This is what this scum, this filth, this lying bastard that calls himself President has done to the country.

          He’s destroying the United States..

          • JackFknTwist

            I agree.
            But you know that the US education system has been so bad for generations. they learn next to nothing in High School, I mean public schools. There is no standardized examinations…….just a worthless diploma from second rate ‘daycare; -which is what many schools are.
            There has been no reform, no investment, no resources and no better pay for better teachers.

            Now the population is voting in ignorance.
            Last week here we sawaA trump/turd supporter wanting an investigation as to where Obama was on 9/11. Why was he not at his desk in the White House?

            You couldn’t make this s hit up.

    • MarkOH

      But, this is getting VERY concerning. We have a POTUS that is ACTIVELY attacking the First Amendment! Isn’t that a strong reason for impeachment?

  • Blake J Butler

    Virginia fundraising as of October the 1st, there is a strong fundraising effort put forth on the candidates for the house of delegates. Danica Roem has the right funds to help her pull off a win if support is strong.

    I’m deflecting because i’m tired of this motherfucker, and i have my eyes on a bigger prize at the moment.

    http://www.centerforpolitics.org/crystalball/content/images/GVS2017101901-table1.png

    http://www.centerforpolitics.org/crystalball/content/images/GVS2017101901-table2.png

    • Phillip in L.A.

      Thank you for posting, Blake J Butler!(*)

      (*) Who knew there were ‘real people’ named ‘Schuyler Van Valkenburg’ and ‘Wendy Gooditis’? /rhetorical

    • Adam King

      Thanks Blake. You’re a good egg.

    • Todd20036

      What’s his name, and how big is his “prize”?

      • Blake J Butler

        If you’re referring to bob marshall maybe ?

        Or are you referring to Eliad Cohen, the Israeli hottie with the chiseled “terrain” for days.

        I’m confused.

        • Todd20036

          both work!

  • Nick in Pasadena

    He publicly calls her “crooked,” but Trump’s private nickname for Hillary is probably “squirrel”. Other than Obama, she’s always his fall-back distraction.

  • j.martindale

    What the F*** are you worried about, little hands? Afraid of going to prison for treason, maybe?

    • Chucktech

      With THIS traitorous Congress? Nope.

  • Blake Mason
  • HZ81
    • Phillip in L.A.

      (1) How would Mr Assange know any male secrets?
      (2) Why does he think women want to hear from him?
      (3) How many men has he observed from his confines within the Embassy?
      (4) How does he know what “men know”?
      (5) Doesn’t he mean “a STR8 male secret”?
      (6) Is there really such a thing as a “constantly self-proclaiming male ‘feminist'”?
      (7) How “often” are “they” “predatory sleaze bags”?
      (8) Takes one to know one.
      (9) How would Mr Assange know what “other men” “intensely dislike”?
      (10) Even assuming he does, why would he care?
      (11) If “manipulative” ≅ “predatory sleaze bag,” where does Mr Assange fall in that calculus?
      (12) How would Mr Assange know what a “sex traitor” is?
      (13) Does anyone know what that is supposed to even mean?
      (14) ∴ Word salad is spoiled–please do not eat.

      • AJ Drew

        how da fook did you make that list so quickly? I’m not on point with all of it, but overall well done!

      • worstcultever

        Good list – except I’d change (2) to (1)

    • AJ Drew

      So… where to begin other than the verity of that Tweet, and assuming it’s real, let’s start with “sex traitors.” Nah, let’s not.

    • SoCalGal20

      Oh FSM, assuming that tweet is real he has access to the 280 character limit. Thanks, @jack!

      • HZ81

        I believe it is real. I can’t say for sure either but seems to be.

        • stuckinthewoods

          tweeet.

    • Hue-Man
  • justme

    So Truthless Trump the Twitter Twat is at it again…
    What a whore!!

  • TrueWords

    When it comes to our nation’s security Congress spares no expense, no matter how large, to ensure we have the best military systems in the world. But when it comes to securing the most fundamental structure of our democratic process, our electoral process, nothing but crickets! Why is that?

    Republicans show zero interest in securing our elections. Maybe the Democrats should make this a top priority in the upcoming budget battles next month. Dollar for dollar parity spending on a new secure voting system to match against Trump’s border wall project.

    It would do more to safeguard American democracy than a few miles of fence.

    • Phillip in L.A.

      hear, hear!

    • AJ Drew

      Obama and Bush (!) recently made public speeches trying to rally America as a force, and people, with the goal of equality and true democracy. But. Though it was obvious they were talking about DT and this current admin’s affront to the ideal of America, they never mentioned his name. Why?

    • yes b’y
    • Chucktech

      If you were a rat bastard Republican traitor, why would you want to change anything about our fucked up electoral system? It’s working just fine for them, thank you.

    • Scott MB

      The first thing that needs to happen when the Dems control House and Senate is the abolishment of the electoral college. It no longer serves the purpose intended. We need to have popular vote. It can be done if the Dems have a veto proof majority. So every Dem needs to get out and vote. Get these Rethugs out of office and save our government from the possible takeover by white supremesists.

      Stop the pissy whining protest votes. Stop throwing away your vote to put a Rethug in office. tRumps win was 100% the fault of the Bernie whime babies with their protest vote or not ahowing up. tRump is all your fault and it should never have happened if you weren’t an idiot and voted for tRump.

      • TrueWords

        Agreed the Electoral College was done mostly due to slavery if you are going to tear down monuments get rid of those that bolster an uneven system…

        The Electoral College’s three-fifths clause enabled Thomas Jefferson, who owned more than a hundred slaves, to beat out in 1800 John Adams, who was opposed to slavery, since the South had a stronghold.

        While slavery was abolished, and the Civil War led to citizenship and voting rights for black people, the Electoral College remained intact.

        The Constitution is extremely pro-slavery, it could be argued that it gave states the autonomy to introduce discriminatory voting laws, despite the Voting Rights Act of 1965 that was built to prevent it.

        • JackFknTwist

          At least people in Catalonia take to the streets on constitutional issues they feel strongly about.

          In the USA, ahhh, not so much.

          • TrueWords

            People in the USA take to the streets consistently for the new iPhones, Black Friday Deals and Sneakers…that is all…never really for the things that matter..

      • Canadian Observer

        I don’t mean to poke a pin at your balloon, but wouldn’t you still require ratification by 3/4 of the states (38)? Last I checked, the Republicans controlled 32 state legislatures…. somehow I don’t think abolishing the electoral college is going to be quite the cakewalk you are suggesting.

        • BudClark

          I read somewhere, though, that States can pass laws requiring Electors in their State to vote for the candidate with the highest number of popular votes, thus side-stepping the almost impossible passage of a Constitutional Amendment.

      • fkevin

        Scott, love your passion, but the EC is in the Constitution. An Amendment would be required to remove/nullify it and the small state would most likely never, ever do it. There is a work around:

        http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/11/10/the_electoral_college_could_be_abolished_without_an_amendment.html

        Same idea:
        http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/the-administration/307359-the-electoral-college-has-to-go-heres-how-we-do-it

    • SoCalGal20

      Rs show zero interest because they MADE the system that way. They’ve got exactly what they want.

    • Paula

      They have to be sure we don’t escape.

  • JWC

    Because you fat corrupt slob Nobody likes you

  • Willys41

    Trump thinks he’s a standup comedian.

    • JAKvirginia

      Strange, cause I heard he tweets sitting down.

  • Harveyrabbit
  • TrueWords

    In Washington, we have vote by mail for all elections. A ballot arrives in the mail weeks before the election and you have plenty of time to research the issues and candidates if you haven’t already.

    You can return your ballot by US mail or at the local library or voting office. No election day lines, no election day work issues.

    There is a paper trail for ballots. Not sure why the other states don’t adopt this method..oh, wait, maybe I do. Also it would aide the failing US Postal Service greatly if this were done nationwide

    • bkmn

      I love how easy it is to vote in Washington state. I am also appalled at how few people vote in the elections.

      • TrueWords

        Agreed, as someone who lives in Washington state if you do not VOTE you are a LOSER and YO do not get the right to bitch and moan later…also just dropped off my ballot at the library for the upcoming election…

        • Snarkaholic

          I mailed mine approximately ten days ago.

      • djcoastermark

        I got my mail in ballot almost a month ago for our upcoming local election in Nov. There is no excuse for anyone to say anymore they do not have time to decide, time to vote, time to learn about the candidates, or any of the other lame excuses people use.

      • FAEN

        People are so apathetic and then they complain even though they didn’t take the time to vote 🙄

        • TrueWords

          People are lazy and LOVE to have something to whine about…it is pathetic and if it is done around me (without you buying a food or a drink for myself) I walk away…

        • JAKvirginia

          Y’know, I truly don’t get the complaining about how “hard” it is to go vote. The longest it ever took for me was 1 hour and that was for Clinton’s first election and because I waited til election day. Usually, no more than 30 minutes on average. Once every 2 years? Too many people are just too damn lazy.

          • Babadook

            Early voting sites are usually pretty empty. My autistic daughter is about to vote for the 5th time and she’s only 20 (we primary, as well). It’s very confusing for her, but it’s so important to her, she soldiers through it. If she can manage, anyone can.

          • BJORN RAGNVALDR

            Due to rethuglicans gerrymandering of voting districts some people must wait hours. (Many voting locations closed) Many of those districts (mostly poor and black or other shades other than alabaster) have the added obstruction of additional ID requirements that you and I do not encounter. There have also been reports in the past of wrong voter info about voting times and places having been advertised.
            They have spent 20 years making it impossible for a Democrat to win in districts that are historically strong Democratic wins.

          • JackFknTwist

            The more I read about this the more I think how undemocratic the USA is.
            I have never spent more that 3 minutes voting…..no lines…..no mad ID law, just present my Polling Card, previously mailed out to me.

            You would think in a democracy the voting would be encouraged and made easy !

          • cleos_mom

            I’ve heard similar excuses from people who don’t eat breakfast cereal because it’s too much work — you have to rinse the bowl and spoon afterward.

            References to unrelated circumstances unrelated to sheer inconvenience and phonebothood; i.e., gerrymandering and voter suppression, irrelevant and immaterial.

        • BJORN RAGNVALDR

          Until voting can safely and effectively be done over this here webby enterprise, many will not vote. If they have to look up from the their phone, if won’t happen. It’s where we are.

        • cleos_mom

          They’re incestuous double first cousins to “conscience voters.”

      • JAKvirginia

        And there we have the problem.

      • Kissmagrits

        Oregon adopted “vote by mail” in ’98…nearly twenty years ago, the first in the nation.
        And they recently enacted the “motor voter” law where voters may
        register at the DMV as part of drivers license sign up.

    • Adam King

      Other states don’t adopt that method because they’re run by Republicans who prefer a method that’s opaque and easy to scam.

      • Ragnar Lothbrok

        ^^^ Ding ding and another ding &^^^

      • Ann Kah

        They prefer a method that makes it difficult for “some people” to cast a ballot. ID checks …long lines, some people don’t have a drivers’ license, etc… All that to catch all those people who cast an illegal vote. All six or seven of them.

        • Galvestonian

          … or like here in Texas where we have Gerrymandered districts so weirdly drawn out that they look like some goddamned octopus whose tentacles stretch in weird directions and carve out areas where Republicans are a ‘shoo-in’ to get elected.

          • vtdave

            Gerrymandering a district for a sub-human like Gohmert to win must be a scary job.

      • DesertSun59

        Correct. In states where Republicans rule they gerrymander Congressional districts, pass deliberate voter suppression laws and blast local media with fake news about voter fraud.

        • Babadook

          You just perfectly described North Carolina.😯

          • FAEN

            Yep. It’s now almost impossible for the Dems to take back the NC legislature due to gerrymandering with “surgical precision.”

    • Chucktech

      That’s just one of many reasons Washington State is blue.

    • Phillip in L.A.

      Same in CA–but one must elect “vote by mail,” and if one does not vote in two consecutive elections, the election is cancelled

    • Robincho

      Irony: Getting the failing NY Times delivered by the failing USPS…

      • TrueWords

        LOVE the irony

        • cleos_mom

          You’ll love the shipping charges from FedEx and UPS even more.

    • Acronym Jim

      Same with Oregon. In fact we recently took it one step farther and instituted a motor-voter law that automatically registers any of-age Oregon citizen who has a valid drivers license or state I.D.

    • Snarkaholic

      That’s how I vote (here in A.C.).

    • Amanda B. Rekendwith

      Can you educate me…what security exists in the mail? Couldn’t your vote get lost or stolen?
      Is there a mechanism where you are able to check to see if your vote was received? Is it possible for someone else to vote your ballot?
      I like the ease that the system offers, but I wonder about the back-end assurances.

      • TrueWords

        First of all if you can get junk mail and flyers on a regular basis with NO PROBLEM then your ballot will and can be secure…

        Yes, you can check online to see if your ballot has been received

        https://info.kingcounty.gov/kcelections/vote/myvoterinfo.aspx

        No it is NOT possible for someone else to vote on your ballot seeing that it came to your mailbox in addition it is signed by you and your signature is compared from previous elections…one year I sliced my writing hand and signature was “off” I received a letter stating as much and needed to provide proof that of myself…

        • Amanda B. Rekendwith

          Thanks, TrueWords. Much appreciated.

  • bambinoitaliano

    This fucking moron got the biggest and longest unresolved mummy issues ever!

    • FAEN
      • Cattleya1

        The one on the right needs makeup and pink sparkles in the do.

      • greenmanTN

        Can you imagine having that leathery old triffid for a mother? *brrrrrr*

        • FAEN

          She was probably 28 there. That’s what Donnie Doll Hands did to her.

        • Phillip in L.A.

          I think I’d prefer a real triffid!

      • Gretchen

        That is the kind of woman one refers to as Mother from cradle to grave. I doubt seriously that she was ever anyone’s mama.

    • JAKvirginia

      Y’mean King Butt?

  • Ragnar Lothbrok

    god dude, get a hobby or be the President or something

    • FAEN

      Or not be POTUS, move back to his horrific gold apartment and then get a hobby.

      • Ragnar Lothbrok

        Your plan is preferable

        • FAEN

          Why thank you sir.

  • TrueWords

    Our national elections are exercises in deception.

    We spend billions tilting the playing field — on things ranging from gerrymandering to swift-boating.

    Who’s chiefly responsible for this sorry state? Four culprits are:

    1. Our two-party system. It breeds polarization, disgust, cynicism, apathy.

    2. The media — namely, it’s superficiality. “Horse race” coverage focuses on campaigning. Why policy matters gets ignored. I mean there was NO COVERAGE of the issues just talk like it was a high school popularity contest.

    3. The length of our national campaigns. They should take three months, start to finish.

    4. Us (the vast majority of us). We like the superficiality, the mess, the stupidity. Let’s admit it. We are part of it. We have clogged up the system by allowing it to become a circus instead of factory like precision.

    • alguien

      you left out the $$$$$ that are spent on our elections every year.

      have government funded elections with no outside donations allowed and our elections would get cleaned up pretty quickly

      • TrueWords

        Agreed, the cost is RIDICULOUS and rivals the GDP of some small nations

        • djcoastermark

          The amount of campaign money spent is obscene. If even half of that was spent on infrastructure and health care, this country would be humming along. But, no, let’s waste it all on ads and ballrooms and on and on. All for what ? Not the greater good of the people but for the greater good of who claims title of Ruler and nothing more.

          • TrueWords

            AGREED, I am disgusted at the amount…truly it is sickening and wasteful…

          • Ann Kah

            We need the kind of “call an election, you have two weeks to campaign” system. We had over a year in which to see that Trump was a massive pile of lies and corruption. Most of us were exhausted before Election Day came around.

          • JAKvirginia

            Yep. Over a year to reveal the truth about DJT but all we got was myth.

      • canoebum

        Also, in a nation of 310 million people, one day to vote is not enough. Elections for national office should be two days, three would be better.

      • SoCalGal20

        And we can thank SCOTUS for that!

      • JAKvirginia

        And restrict campaigning to the year in which the election occurs.

    • Phillip in L.A.

      “Who’s chiefly responsible for this sorry state?”

      WE, THE PEOPLE

      • Ann Kah

        “I see dumb people!”

    • Hue-Man
      • TrueWords

        It is like fucking pyramid scheme to alienate and confuse the public here in America…

    • Gretchen

      “I mean there was NO COVERAGE of the issues just talk like it was a high school popularity contest.”

      That reminds me of school groups selling everything from donuts to t-shirts trying to get their representative elected homecoming queen. I do not miss high school. We might have done better electing our president by mass bake sale instead of voting. I bet Tennessee would have better turn out if fudge or brownies were used instead of ballots.

  • Jerry Kott

    This is what a guilty person does to deflect and distort focus.

  • another_steve

    Just got home and caught up on today’s JMG horror blog entries.

    May I die now, sir?

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d24c2a6b1d3138deee1cbd53cd17d3bd130124db1c2a1a611d0cd811ad126c9f.jpg

    • Dazzer

      If that’s a Trump Taco Bowl Mark Lester is holding, you probably will anyway.

      On the other hand, please don’t. We like having you around.

    • Phillip in L.A.
      • Todd20036

        One of the Ice Age movies did a hilarious remix of it.

    • AJ Drew

      Are you asking for permission or hoping for obections? /s

    • FAEN

      No you may NOT! We’d miss your wit and aside from that no one here wants Judas Jared except you 😉.

      • another_steve

        Lol. So sweet. Love ya. 😉

        (Btw, Jared is mine, and any bitch reading here who claims a piece of him will face my vicious and potentially deadly flailing limp wrist.)

        • FAEN

          Love ya hon but NO ONE wants Judas Jared but you. However if there is another taker I’m backing you all the way when it comes to the cage match 😉

        • JAKvirginia

          All yours, sweetie.

  • 2patricius2

    And Hillary Clinton won almost 3 million more votes than Herr Drumpf did.

    • JAKvirginia

      And 137 million registered voters didn’t vote for him.

  • Taylor Bixler

    Facebook brags about how they swing elections. According to FB, batboy, er Rick Scott, in his 2014 reelection, used Facebook to create a “22% increase in Hispanic support,” which FB calls “a deciding factor” in his win.
    https://www.facebook.com/business/success/categories/government-politics

    • Cuberly Deux

      Remember, they’re not a media company. Those words are verboten!

  • Ragnar Lothbrok

    Guys, OT, but don’t let your puppy see this.

    #InferiorityComplex

    https://twitter.com/myall3000/status/919196453087608832

    • Phillip in L.A.

      Since I can’t even see it, that won’t be a problem! 🙂

      • Ragnar Lothbrok

        Freeresh ? I mean refresh .

        • Phillip in L.A.

          Yeah, I’ve done that more than once with the same lack of result

          • Ann Kah

            Browser issues? I can see tweets in Safari but not in Chrome.

          • CharlestonDave

            I use Safari and can usually see Tweets but sometimes get blank posts.

    • AJ Drew

      there are dogs, and then there are Border Collies. One has to train a dog, but a Border Collie will train you without you ever realizing it.

    • FAEN

      O M G that is sooooo freaking cute!

    • Todd20036

      Wow. That dog is smarter than the BLOTUS.

    • sfbob

      That is just the most adorable thing I’ve seen on the internet since…okay, since the pic of Eliad Cohen above. Which was pretty adorable.

    • SoCalGal20

      This is awesome!

  • Dale Snyder

    Fifth grade mentality.

    Keep it coming, you piece of shit.

  • FAEN

    You are so predictable President Doll Hands.

  • Ragnar Lothbrok
  • Taylor Bixler

    This was on Faux two hours ago. Wonder where the orange menace got the idea for his tweet. And of course it was Mark Penn who went on Faux to help them with their narrative on this. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/9a33953f89b1c4f26753655687718e227cdf7d5bde81c289c0218ba2e28669b8.jpg

  • Blake J Butler
    • another_steve

      There are vast regions of the United States that are less hilly than that.

      • Dazzer

        All he’d have to do is stand up straight in Indiana and it’d probably affect local weather patterns.

        • sfbob

          And by “stand up straight” you mean…

    • Ann Kah

      I’m sure I have a bra to fit him.

    • jerry

      Eliad Cohen?

    • Natty Enquirer

      That’s a very carefully balanced camera.

    • Phil2u

      Well, now…THAT’s what I’d like to see in the morning!

  • Oscarlating Wildely
    • CharlestonDave

      Where was this? I’m sure she was sitting next to me at lunch today.

  • boobert

    The media is responsible for him winning the election. Millions worth of free press did it.

  • Cuberly Deux

    OT: Ms Price has played the, I was just thinking out loud card. How provocative! Religio-bigot-freak.

    “In a statement shared with the Atlanta Journal Constitution Saturday, Price said her comments were “taken completely out of context” and that she was merely being “provocative.”

    “I do not support a quarantine in this public health challenge and dilemma of undertreated HIV patients,” she said.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/georgia-state-rep-betty-price-uses-term-quarantine-asking-about-n812831

    • AJ Drew

      For a politician, it’s sadly true that backtalk is expected, but she’s also a physician, so everything she has said is truly abhorrent and shameful.

    • Halou

      If she doesn’t support it why did she say it?
      She was JAQing off or being provocative. My ass! She was trying to stop the discussion from going anywhere by forcing us all to waste vital time by going over the basics. Every second that is spent arguing that 1+1=2 which even they agree with is a second that is not spend addressing the real issue, the issue that these bigots don’t want to address for fear of losing it.

    • sfbob

      I dont believe her at all. Not one bit. Whatever she said today is merely an oblique version of “I’m sorry if someone’s feelings were hurt.”

      Or “I didn’t realize people were actually listening to what I was saying.”

    • agcons

      The Price is still wrong.

    • Bluto

      The deplorables loved her nazi concentration camp idea. Shocker.

  • Halou

    The amount of money spent by Russia to buy facebook ads does not take into account the amount of money spent creating the ads, of hiring a team of people to find out the best ways to target which groups of people. It doesn’t take into account the amount of money spent hiring trolls and buying millions of bots to share and amplify the messages. It doesn’t take into account the amount of money spent buying ads on sites other than facebook, like Twitter, Youtube, Google, etc… It doesn’t take into account the costs of all the subversive non-propaganda actions that took place, such as the flashmobs promoted on Facebook which count as community activism rather than political ads. It doesn’t take into account the costs of operating propaganda outlets like RT and Sputnik to provide media coverage for all the radicalized fellow travelers and useful idiots.

    Trump’s complaint that ‘Hillary spent more’ has no basis in reality.

  • vorpal 😼

    He never gets tired of being a sore winner.
    In fact, he’s the SOREST winner in the history of winners!

    • Lazycrockett

      and it pisses him off to no end, cause the last thing this motherfucker wanted was to be president of the united states.

      • Ann Kah

        I see that Trump and I agree on ONE thing.

      • vorpal 😼

        I think he wanted to prove to himself that he could do anything, including achieving the highest position in the US government, but now that he’s presidunce, the victory is over and he resents having to actually, y’know, participate in running a country.

        And thus, he does next-to-nothing because he’s no longer interested, and still obsesses about the only part of this that matters to him: the fact that he won.

        • Cattleya1

          And he gets off on the adulation of his ‘base’. He has all these imbeciles who are in thrall to him and hang on his every tweet. It is a cult and he is their Jim Jones. I just hope we don’t have to drink the grape Kool-Aid along with them.

        • UrsusArctos 🐻

          He was also planning on starting a 45* branded media outlet and make $$$ by appealing to the Faux crowd by beating on HRC 24/7 AND UFO/Batboy/Chemtrails “coverage”. Basically he planned to steal the audience from both Faux and InfoCrap. He screwed that up by getting elected by the Electoral College.

      • Halou

        I think he wanted to be president but didn’t know what the president’s job actually was. He thought it would be like it was when he ran his businesses, just sit back and let the subordinates do everything, make a few speeches, return a favor for Daddy Vladdy and ride those paychecks and other perks for 4 years. Job done.
        Also, Obama made it all look so easy.

        • Robincho

          Oh, he still runs his businesses, all right. Prolly why they lost $600 million last year…

        • JAKvirginia

          +1

        • Ross

          I have never thought Trump wanted to be President.

          His ashen face on election night seems to confirm this.

    • FAEN

      Preach it!

  • AJ Drew

    OK, DT, let’s talk about scare-quoted “tiny” shall we?

  • Blake J Butler

    Just in case anyone was wondering, the ratings have changed, especially with the open seats in competitive districts that Hillary won or narrowly lost.

    Update October 19th.

    http://www.centerforpolitics.org/crystalball/content/images/101917houseratings.png

    • Your summary is Larry Sabato’s. Another way of looking at it according to the Cook Report. Out of the 435 seats in the House of Representatives –
      Republican seats that are solid: 180
      Democratic seats that are solid: 174
      Seats that are competitive: 81
      ———————–
      https://cookpolitical.com/ratings/house-race-ratings

      • sfbob

        Dems need to pick up 24 seats to gain a majority and 81 are competitive. My guess is that that number is much bigger than usual and I’d say that’s a plus for our side.

  • Lazycrockett
  • canoebum

    The networks he bitches about constantly gave him $2 billion in free publicity during the campaign, covering his every antic. They are largely responsible for his being in the White House. Typical Trump behavior, trash those who help you whenever it becomes convenient.

  • bambinoitaliano
    • gaycuckhubby

      👏👏👏

  • fkevin

    OT: More Fake Donald: Trump’s Renoir painting is not real, Chicago museum says

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41686623

    • Halou

      When he leaves office his defense will be that he was never the president so “why are people blaming me for all this mountain of shit?”

    • Oscarlating Wildely

      To be honest, of all the damned paintings, even he could not so daft as to believe that was really Renoir’s work. I mean, it’s like someone in Utah noting “oh yes, that pink plastic David in my front lawn? Michel Angelo totally did it!”

      • Halou

        It is Donald Trump we’re talking about. He has a fake Time magazine cover in his office. He had a photo of the women’s march framed and called it his inauguration crowd, and one of his golf courses has a plaque commemorating a civil war battle that never happened. So yes, he absolutely would claim to have a painting that already exists elsewhere either for the “look at me” factor or because he was duped by a forgery and too full of shit to admit it.

        • AJ Drew

          Yeah but, no matter where you go in the room, the painting’s eyes seem to follow you…

          • Dreaming Vertebrate

            That’s just Putin behind the scenes. Keeping an eye on his imbecilic puppet.

        • JAKvirginia

          And still his base will believe him and no one else only because he says it’s real. That, my friends, is drunk-the-Kool-Aid time.

      • AJ Drew

        Mormon Jesus said it’s real. So. Wanna buy it?

    • AJ Drew
  • JWC
    • HZ81

      Oh, hi.

    • jerry

      I would put my head in his lap and let him read to me…

      • greenmanTN

        Face down?

        • jerry

          Yes, that would work.

    • Oscarlating Wildely

      Hot men reading: Pure sexiness.

    • Cuberly Deux

      He’s got huge hobbit feet.

      • AJ Drew

        uh-huh, that’s why you’d say “no, I’m tired,” first. /s

      • Mikey

        does that mean he has a huge Hobbit.. umm… pipe?

    • Phillip in L.A.
      • Phillip in L.A.

        Wow! Only one upvote for the hot shirtless Drow–u r a bunch of barbarians.

        • Dazzer

          Who is Drow? He looks like Legolas on steroids (and – unfortunately for my taste – not in a good way).

          • Phillip in L.A.

            Drow are a sub-race of elves

            descended from the original dark-skinned elven subrace called the Illythiiri, [who] were cursed into their present appearance by the good elven deities for following the [spider] goddess Lolth down the path to evil and corruption. Also called dark elves, the drow have black skin that resembles polished obsidian and stark white or pale yellow hair…. [¶] Menzobarranzan, home city of the famed exile Drizzt Do’Urden, is the most famous Drow realm.

            Ed Greenwood, Sean K Reynolds, Skip Williams & Robert Heinsoo, Dungeons & Dragons: Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting (Renton, WA: Wizards of the Coast, Inc., 2001), at 13.

    • TrueWords
      • Phillip in L.A.

        Is he related to Adrian Mole?

      • AJ Drew

        Shit my Dad says. No, really, the shit my 90 yo chosen-Dad says… I should write a book.

      • FAEN

        My cousin lives in Seattle. When I visit him I’d love your input on where to get great coffee. If you drink coffee that is lol.

        • TrueWords

          I rarely (maybe twice a year) drink coffee however when I do the ONLY coffee I drink is Caffe Vita

          http://www.caffevita.com/locations

          NEVER Starfucks it is just plain BURNT

          However my husband LOVES this brand of coffee and it is really good

          https://www.dallmayr.com/deen/coffee/prodomo/

          • Prost Seattle

            You’d be amazed what I could grind for you here on Capitol Hill.

          • TrueWords

            I prefer that kind of stimulation to coffee any day, afternoon or night….also my husband really took extra care this morning to serve it up nice hot and lots of grinding…but your enthusiasm is much appreciated

          • FAEN

            Thanks matey.

    • Phil2u

      He just looks at pictures. But what the hell do I care!

      • Todd20036

        And we’re just looking at him…

    • greenmanTN
  • Cuberly Deux

    OT: Awwww, who didn’t know this? Nothing better than a doggie smile. 😉

    “Dogs Make Facial Expressions, But Only When They’ve Got an Audience”

    https://gizmodo.com/dogs-make-facial-expressions-but-only-when-theyve-got-1819716404

  • Sam_Handwich

    well he got that out an hour before sunset in DC, when Jarvanka returns

  • Sam_Handwich
    • JAKvirginia

      Yeah, Donnie. I saw that. Thanks, Obama!

    • AJ Drew

      Unemployment benefits ran out thus fewer unemployed on the official counts, but, shall we discuss how the only growing labor market currently hiring is minimum wage?

      • Sam_Handwich

        Now is not the time to discuss that!

    • CharlestonDave

      Sam, if you’re actually following the Orange Scrotum on Twitter, I’m not going to judge, but you have to wash your hands thoroughly before you come in here.

      • Sam_Handwich

        i always wear a baggie when reading his tweets

        • SoCalGal20

          You should upgrade to a hazmat suit. One of these days you’ll need a Silkwood shower.

  • Sam_Handwich
  • greenmanTN

    President Pantywaist is predictable and boring. If this was a sitcom they’d bring in cousin Oliver right about now.

    https://media.giphy.com/media/l0O9zprd00oA5kPsY/giphy.gif

  • William

    Still talking about Hillary. What, did she reject Donald’s advances?

    • AJ Drew
      • RobynWatts

        Donnie the Stalking Droid.

      • Dreaming Vertebrate

        That is so creepy!!
        She should have maced him.

        • Natty Enquirer

          What I would have paid to see her wheel around and snap, “Back off, creep!”

  • He’s such a fucking whiny little titty-baby.

  • Treant

    Honestly, Donnie. Hills paid for her own ads using American money…her money, after donation.

    We’re talking about you benefiting from Russian rubles spent illegally. Do try to keep up, moronic dotard.

    • -M-

      Yes. Her ads on issues vs Putin’s campaign of disinformation, division and discouragement.

  • paganguy

    Fake News. Check. Crooked Hillary. Check. He left out some reference to Obama or he’d have had his daily trifecta.

  • RobynWatts

    Deflecting Donald Trump should know something about crooks, since he pals around with despots like Putin and he has proven that he and his fellow thieves in the GOP would sell this country out to the almighty dollar, while using every single distraction that comes his way as cover for his illegal activities.

  • Talisman

    Two wrongs don’t make a right.

    Even assuming Hillary did anything wrong.

  • AJ Drew
    • sfbob

      It would be a refreshing change of pace were Vlad to stop meddling in our internal affairs. He (and his minion in the White House) thinks our ability to say what we please about an elected official is a bug; we’re quite certain it’s a feature, and an important one at that.

      • Skeptical_Inquirer

        I don’t understand why Putin praising Dump doesn’t make people suspicious of Trump, well, the ones who aren’t already suspicious of him.

      • AJ Drew

        Think bigger… WHY would Putin even bother? What’s the end goal here, cuz clearly there is one.

        • The_Wretched

          Putin wants to destabilize the West. It’s working.

  • CharlestonDave

    Such a small man.

    • worstcultever

      Also, such a nation-destroying Republican Party that keeps him in power.

  • sfbob

    Blah, blah, blah, Donnie.

  • aagold76 .

    ‘Racist Don’ is probably one of the Russian hired social media trolls….half the posts sounded semi literate- whole family probably posted hundreds each.

    • JWC

      I am still interested in knowing if Donny is illiterate

  • Skeptical_Inquirer

    OT: Donald Jr. has some serious daddy issues. I think the blue check mark means it’s verified so not an Onion type deal This is on his Instagram:

    https://www.instagram.com/p/Bafb0Klj-gp/?hl=en&taken-by=donaldjtrumpjr

    • JWC

      What..the fat suit comes off????

      • Skeptical_Inquirer

        I’m thinking body transplant. But what Donald needs is a brain transplant.

        • JWC

          2 problems Donny would , first off , have to have a brain and secondly what dead person ever be willing to donate

      • OdieDenCO

        no, that’s a full body corset. what looks like hair on his chin is actually extruded fat.

        • JWC

          oh squissy

    • Lazycrockett

      That just so sad and pathetic. He will never love you Jr.

      • Skeptical_Inquirer

        I keep wanting to say, “Dude, the only one he likes is Ivanka. And only for extremely icky reasons.”

    • AJ Drew

      lolz… title that “What he sees in the mirror.”

    • SoCalGal20

      It is on Jr’s IG. And, yes, the blue check means that they’re verified like on Twitter. My guess is it’s some fanart from r/The_Donald or someplace like that.

      • Skeptical_Inquirer

        That makes sense. It’s still sad for him to distribute it though.

        I like Obama but I’d raise my eyebrows if either of his daughters instagrammed something like that.

        • SoCalGal20

          Oh, yeah it’s definitely pathetic but it follows a pattern. He has tweeted lots of Trump fanart. And it’s all ridiculous.

  • Michael R

    Be sure to not look into Russia meddling in our election
    and police brutality you piece of shit .

  • Michael R
  • Jean-Marc in Canada

    Yes, yes, yes Donnie, we’ve heard it all before and it’s still bullshit…..

    https://twitter.com/sirlthr69/status/921884918069776386

    https://twitter.com/sirlthr69/status/921885952632647680

    • gaycuckhubby

      Well said, Sir.

      • Ross

        I second that well.

  • worstcultever
    • AJ Drew

      Well, I truly hate to say this, but let us truly face it. He’s POTUS, those positioned to replace him might be worse because they actually have a set agenda, so here we are. Time for grass-roots up, period. Vote DEM for your school board and upward.

  • Ninja0980

    Evening folks.
    Will be on pins and needles for the next three to four hours…

    • gaycuckhubby

      ???
      Baseball?

    • Natty Enquirer

      Acupuncture?

    • The_Wretched

      Advanced horticultural techniques?

    • Sam_Handwich

      i think i’m a dodgers fan for the next couple of weeks 😀

    • AJ Drew

      so, we shouldn’t try to make you laugh?

    • gaycuckhubby

      The crowd is electric.

      I want to go to there

  • JT
  • greenmanTN
    • AJ Drew

      Ah, the downside of being Freegan… never know what will end up on your head.

  • Lazycrockett

    If anyone wants to see a really good movie, TCM is getting ready to show Close Encounter now.

  • JWC
    • AJ Drew

      Stop spoiling next season’s Walking Dead!

      • JWC

        hehehe spoiler alert

    • Lazycrockett

      Bannon was attacking Bush 43 last night so expect a drumpf tweet attack on the same.

      • JWC

        not original Bannon still calls donnys shots

  • Lazycrockett
  • fuzzybits
  • Lazycrockett
    • AJ Drew

      There is SO much wrong about all of this, but c’mon, UPS delivery? I actually hope that’s not true. Um, National Guard person, a local LEO volunteer, *anyone* actually willing to personally make the sentiment? Uff.

    • greenmanTN

      And now for something fucking insane…

    • SoCalGal20

      Classy! /s

    • OdieDenCO

      disgusting fucking troll! may the furies torment him nightly until madness takes it’s toll!

    • Hue-Man

      Wouldn’t be surprised if he sent them US Postal Service – with postage due!

    • Ross

      The most appalling aspect?

      They think we won’t notice the delivery date.

    • Cuberly Deux

      Today’s episode of The Improv-Presidency.

  • anne marie in philly

    wah wah wah, cry me a river, you orange fucking crybaby!

    • worstcultever

      orange fucking criminal traitor rapist nazi sicko ugly fatass fake-human crybaby

      fixed it for ya 🙂

      • anne marie in philly

        thank you; but you forgot microdick!

    • billbear1961
      • JT

        “This video contains content from Eagle Rock. It is not available in your country.”

        • billbear1961

          You can’t see it, JT?

          • JT

            No, billbear. I appear to be in another country.

          • billbear1961

            It’s funny we can see it in Canada, but you can’t in the States!

          • JT

            But this one works. Is it the same one?
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cizgXSegrko

          • billbear1961

            Yes, without the ER.com intro!

      • anne marie in philly

        I LOVE her voice!

  • Sam_Handwich

    3 outs on 7 pitches for Sabathia

  • billbear1961
    • AJ Drew

      What prompted that?!

      • billbear1961

        I’m punch-drunk.

    • Cuberly Deux

      I can’t count the number of times I’ve watched Topsy Turvy. It’s brilliant.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rP2qJXT3olM

      • billbear1961

        Yes, it is!

        (Hello, Cuberly!)

        • Cuberly Deux

          Hey Mr. Bear 😉

          Hope you’re doing well.

          • billbear1961

            XO

    • CB

      Just saw Cuberly before. Thought I recognized it from “Topsy Turvy.” We grew up with Gilbert & Sullivan in our home. Always love it.

  • Blake J Butler

    Madria sangria, diet dr.pepper, popcorn and watching Dolores Claiborne for my self care this week, besides tearing down the old arbor to make way for a patio cover sometime in the next week or two.

    Pracitcing self care.

    • AJ Drew

      My most-remembered mentor who became a true friend once told me: “You have to know when to be a blanket, and when to be sand-paper.”

      So… Blake, take a nap.

      • Blake J Butler

        My bedtime isn’t till 10.

        • AJ Drew

          You’re an adult and I’m not a role-model, so do what you will, but I think taking a nap is never bad advice.

          • Blake J Butler

            My bedtime is self imposed, I take naps on internship days, except Tuesdays when I have class. I’m just kidding with you. I get enough deep sleep on the weekends when I need it.

            Besides I have to make time for some self care, self care before I go to bed.

    • worstcultever

      I find popcorn to be self-care almost by definition.

      I even like all the gifs of popcorn people post. Just something happy and comforting about the stuff!

    • DoctorDJ

      “Practicing self care.”
      Very important.
      Be well.

  • gaycuckhubby

    Judge!

  • Lazycrockett
    • djcoastermark

      Too funny-ish in a wry sorta way. But hey, given today’s nutcases like infowars and blightbart, I say go for it. Give it right back to them.

    • AJ Drew

      Follow the links and… ugh.

  • Skeptical_Inquirer

    OT: I wish someone would use this particular phrase when it comes to Don and his supporting fundajelicals when they bitch about stupid crap but do everything they can to passive aggressively get people they hate killed and woo hoo treason.

    Matthew 23:24

    “You blind guides! You strain out a gnat but swallow a camel.”

    • djcoastermark

      Stealing that !

  • Sam_Handwich

    check out the plant behind old man Bush’s head

    that’s breaking rule #1 in portrait photography

    https://twitter.com/texasdemocrats/status/921886832740114432

    • Skeptical_Inquirer

      Hmmm, the alien possessing him is fleeing the body to try to find a newer/younger host. I kid but yeah, they should totally have moved the plant.

    • SoCalGal20

      Jimmy Carter is looking great!

      (Also nice to see all the Presidents together)

      • worstcultever

        I thought the same about Carter. Man, he beat brain cancer, STILL goes around building those damn houses, does all kinds of writing and speaking .. blows my mind, really

        • Skeptical_Inquirer

          Also, he never whined about having the cancer. Imagine Dump with cancer.

          • greenmanTN

            Oh lord, he’d be insufferable. You just know he’d act like he was the first and only to ever have it.

          • UrsusArctos 🐻

            The Best cancer! Believe me!

          • worstcultever

            Dumpshit only has two settings: whining and bullying.

            And since he lacks all human qualities, it’s doubtful a serious disease would elicit any self-insight or larger insight about life. He’d just whine, bitch, and grandstand like he does now, but louder and even more self-pitying.

            Anyway I’m still hoping for a stroke or cardiac event on camera – the more humiliating to his “powerful, manly” image the better.

          • 2guysnamedjoe

            He’d deny it, and say it was fake news. He’d even write himself a letter of clean health (and that’s the phrase he’d use) for his doctor to sign.

          • UrsusArctos 🐻

            Yes, let us all pause a moment and imagine that.

        • SoCalGal20

          Hope I can be like Jimmy Carter when I get to my 90s (assuming I actually get there).

    • worstcultever

      ANYBODY would have thought to remove that plant. Sheezis! World of Incompetence.

    • Lazycrockett

      So they all called each other before and ditched the ties.

    • Sam_Handwich
      • BobSF_94117

        Babs should have stepped out and joined the photo instead of hiding behind her husband like that.

    • AJ Drew

      thorny. heh.

    • greenmanTN

      Trivia: Hitchcock’s last silent film was The Lodger, starring Ivor Novello. Novello was gay, which fascinated Hitchcock, so as an inside joke he went to great pains to film Novello in one scene so a bouquet of flowers on the fireplace mantle behind him looked like a flowered hat.

      Also, Ivor Novello was hawt!

      http://overtures.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/Ivor-1.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/9ad55c605fdc929f6d2a17306fdd48ece545bbe8742e3ab1cd6cca771c202871.jpg

      • worstcultever

        dang, them’s some lips and eyes – and even the guys were doing almost-Louise Brooks hair!

        i’m in one of my periodic anti-Hitch phases – he could be a real creep and gaslighter

  • SoCalGal20

    I saw Only the Brave today. In light of recent fires, it had an extra bit of poignancy. Good movie of that type. Excellent cast.

  • Lazycrockett
    • worstcultever

      I’m sure this will spur a thousand NYT headlines and years of investigations

    • MBear

      LOCK THEM UP!!!

  • SoCalGal20

    Today’s story of how Betsy DeVos is a fuckibg awful human being we have…

    https://twitter.com/aynrandpaulryan/status/921803518557564928

    • worstcultever

      She is literally 100% pure evil in every cell of her body. Just like her boss Satan McDumpfuck.

      • AJ Drew

        She’s beyond evil because she doesn’t even know she’s being evil, she’s that clueless and uninformed and has not even a wisp of wanting to learn anything, and yet she’s our Education Czar.

    • billbear1961

      This is one more OUTRAGE that should get people into the streets!

      • AJ Drew

        I’d host you if you want to join us. Lots of protests ongoing here, and lots to protest. (sigh)

        • billbear1961

          In North Carolina?

          That’s impressive, AJ!

  • Skeptical_Inquirer

    OT: It’s eye-rolling to hear how some Texans who got hit by Harvey talk about PR. They suffer the same damn type disaster and they still bitch about PR.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/many-trump-voters-who-got-hurricane-relief-in-texas-arent-sure-puerto-ricans-should/2017/10/20/32da835c-b344-11e7-9e58-e6288544af98_story.html?utm_term=.ecc81480e20d

  • SoCalGal20

    Ooh Gretchen Carlson has chimed in on Bill O’Reilly’s $32M settlement.

    https://twitter.com/gretchencarlson/status/921877251712569346

    • Skeptical_Inquirer

      She’s right but I still don’t like her because she’s the epitome of “I only give a shit about a cause that personally affected me but racism/bigotry/other, meh!”

    • Cuberly Deux

      That bizarre defense one of bill’O’s reps released didn’t exactly make things any better. Basically admitting that the settlement included a confidentiality clause. Ooooo…ain’t that a surprise. Oy vey…

      • AJ Drew

        Yes. And 32M$ to get a non-disclosure agreement… there’s a “something” there, maybe it’s something truly shocking, or just a “meh” to most of us that Bill realllly thinks would somehow further damage his image. Hmm.

        • worstcultever

          My god, it’s just a FUCK TON of money!

        • Ben in Oakland

          If he has 32 million to toss, he may not really care about his image.

          • AJ Drew

            eh, I think it’s the only thing he cares about, at least in terms of $$$ and holy carp, he’s making 25M$ a year… I can’t even imagine that.

        • Gretchen

          I would give up my reputation for $32 million, but my integrity can’t be bought.

          • AJ Drew

            That’s the thing though, isn’t it? Money buys a lot, but… ?

          • Gretchen

            It’s one thing for others to think badly of me. It’s a whole other kettle of fish to be ashamed of myself. My father is a literal conman, and my mother was a politician. I am lucky to have any morals at all.

      • SoCalGal20

        I really would love to know what he doesn’t want us to know but it would probably require brain bleach.

        • Cuberly Deux

          Yikes, yeah…with that amt of money as a payoff lord knows it’s a doozy.

          • Keroleen

            Particularly given his sordid activities that did make it to the press over the years. I’m just as happy not knowing what could be worse than the falafel/loofah incident.

    • AJ Drew

      Well, someone had to say it, I suppose, and I’m glad for that, but c’mon…

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8eb0b7b45e9e6c4ea68abdfb4daf6851b59316edc8e0c48bdb2c0a23bf26c9ec.jpg

      • Lazycrockett
        • Silver Badger

          To my nearsighted eyes, the bald guy appears to be wearing a cock ring around his neck. It’s always good to be prepared.

          • Lazycrockett

            I think its Obvious.

      • Skeptical_Inquirer

        I hope she’s looking at what’s going on with her former co-worker Megyn and decide doing any mainstream TV because yeah, I am going to hold it against her that she ever worked on Faux News.

    • greenmanTN

      Yechhhh. For whatever reason I hated Gretchen Carlson even more than most Fox News bimbos. I think it was the way she’d ask these concern troll questions (affectionate gesture or terrorist fist bump?!) then turn her head to the side like a particularly stupid Lhasa Apso.

      http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-P2IyW8_DLc8/U1BG74jQirI/AAAAAAAAdKc/poCs0vPS8ss/s1600/FF_01-28-09__910.jpg

      • OdieDenCO

        she’s got callista gingrich eyes

        • AJ Drew

          in more than one way, her roots are showing.

      • AJ Drew

        That image… dang.

      • Ben in Oakland

        Did she go to the Crazy Eyes Store? I want a set! I’m bored.

        Callista, Bachman, a few others! They have em.

      • worstcultever

        I hate her too – but she more than anyone shook apart the foundations of the Ailes House of Predation and brought it tumbling down for good. Doesn’t make me like her, but I’m glad for what she did, and I give her a definite kudo for it.

      • Gretchen

        As a Gretchen myself, I would like to petition to have Ms. Carlson removed from our rolls and renamed something less dignified. I’m thinking a name ending in an inappropriate number of “i’s” world be acceptable. Perhaps Stacii or Kristii. I would go so far as Evie or Maudie, but nothing more stately than Annie.

        • bzrd

          Muffie

      • FAEN

        And when she wore yellow she looked like a bird.

  • safari
    • worstcultever

      hilarious – & what a handsome tuxedo kitty

      also love the green of the salad bowl

    • SoCalGal20

      Such a cat thing to do. Usually while looking right at you.

    • Ben in Oakland

      Great video.

      Here’s something on the same subject, from my Elegy for Missy.

      Another occasion, I was doing some chore or other in the living room. Missy kept trying to get my attention, probably for a skritch, but I was busy and didn’t want to give her the time. Finally, she jumped up on the mantle of the fireplace and just STARED at me, in that intense way that only a cat or a love-sick stalker can pull off. Well, that was interesting, because the mantlepiece wasn’t generally a place where she hung out. On the mantle was my collection of small metal gods, goddesses, demons, Buddhas, and other fantastic personages and creatures, that I call The Congregation. Missy, as tiny as she was, could easily crouch behind them on the narrow shelf.

      She STARED at me. I looked back at her, wondering what was going to happen. Very deliberately, one of her paws came up and knocked the idol in front of her off the mantle piece. She then got up, moved two inches to her right, crouched down again in front of another idol, and STARED at me. As soon as she was sure she had my attention, up came the paw, down went the idol. She repeated the performance three more times before I finally gave in and gave her what she wanted.

      • whollyfool

        Cats know where the limits are. They know us better than we know ourselves. 🙂

        • Ben in Oakland

          Pssst. Don’t tell anyone. But it’s how they control us,

        • AJ Drew

          I prefer to believe that cats do NOT know where the limits are, otherwise my willingness to forgive the toilet paper mishap might have my own limits!

      • AJ Drew

        It’s truly amazing how animals and humans can impact our lives. But especially animals, “pets” and yet we pet them, and they change our daily routines and our lives. That was a lovely elegy.

        • Ben in Oakland

          Thanks, it was only a small part of it. She was The Best Cat in the World.

    • greenmanTN
      • safari

        That black and white one has an attitude.

        • Sam_Handwich

          #Cattitude

          #ThoughtsAndMeows

          • safari

            #ThoughtsAndPurrs ;-p

        • greenmanTN

          If he is on the bed with me NOBODY else better even try to get up there too or there will be hell to pay!

          • Silver Badger

            That could be unfortunate. I hope you have a kennel for him for those “special occasions”.

          • greenmanTN

            I meant feline somebodies, not somebody somebodies. All cats have to be out of the room for that because they always look like they’re gonna hold up little scorecards afterward, plus can’t resist taking a swat at dangly bits! 😳

          • fuzzybits

            Not good when there’s claws involved.

          • AJ Drew

            So, um, what Olympic score would they give you? (asking for a cat.)

          • greenmanTN

            Cats are so harsh with their scoring, though admittedly I did stumble a bit during the dismount…

          • greenmanTN

            Cats are such strict scorers, though admittedly I stumbled a little on the dismount…

      • Sam_Handwich

        cute kitties!

        not sure why, but after your video ended, youtube recommended this. and i absolutely love this woman’s voice!

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nh48C7E4wDQ

        • safari

          Autonomous Sensory Meridian Response (ASMR)
          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autonomous_sensory_meridian_response

          • Sam_Handwich

            i’m very familiar with ASMR

            it’s not quite to the level of getting tingles, but definitely on that spectrum

          • safari

            I wish I could get the tingles. I feel like I could when I was a child.

          • Sam_Handwich

            i definitely got tingles as a kid, (from BOB ROSS, the painter on PBS) and then again when i discovered what the hell it actually was a few years ago.

            i think i’ve become immune from over exposure. lol

            it’s amazing the variety of asmr videos on youtube. i particularly like haircut/barber shop ones.

          • fuzzybits

            Not sure if I possess that ability but I had one person years ago tell me I should come to their house once a week and tell them that “everything will be alright” in their ear.

          • Sam_Handwich

            everyone has different triggers, even with voices. male vs female, whispers, eating noises, sales person, mechanic, barber, therapist, and then it gets really weird. lol

          • AJ Drew

            Oh, that guy. He asked *me* to throw melons at him while he stood naked against a brick wall. Heh.

          • fuzzybits

            Sounds like Rubyfruit Jungle.

          • Fafnir the thurifer

            Wait a minute, isn’t that a scene from Ruby Fruit Jungle?

          • AJ Drew

            So… skip ASMR and instead go for a soothing voice and a delicately applied paintbrush?

        • Silver Badger

          How odd, I got several animal rescue video’s.

        • greenmanTN

          I’m definitely gonna try that cornbread recipe.

          • Sam_Handwich

            yup, looks like something both hubs and i would enjoy. i think i’d leave some of the fat/liquid from the beef, and mash the beans a little

        • DoctorDJ

          Indeed, very smooth.
          And the dish looks great!

      • AJ Drew

        So, @safari refused your FedEx shipment?

        • greenmanTN

          Nothing but a tease! 😁

  • Michael R
    • safari

      Water puppy!

      • worstcultever

        the dive and landing – so refreshing!

    • worstcultever

      Best one yet! Well, except for the last fab silhouette one

    • JohnJay

      I love how she looks back and says “Watch Daddy… look what I can do!”

  • pj

    another day with president don the con.

  • gaycuckhubby

    Uh oh… what’s happening to the Yankees?

  • Ben in Oakland

    Paid ads. News? What’s the difference? I don’t read newspapers.

  • gaycuckhubby
    • SoCalGal20

      He’s going to be even more insufferable now that he has 280 characters at his disposal. Ugh.

      • gaycuckhubby

        Can we get Cher 280 characters immediately.
        It would help balance out this misogynistic asshole

        • SoCalGal20

          YES PLEASE.

        • safari

          I can barely read her emoji messages now.

      • BobSF_94117

        Shhhhhh

    • Lazycrockett

      Okay then rapist.

    • safari

      He seems to have a dim view of men. Perhaps it is because he’s a bad one.

      • worstcultever

        Hold up – I have dim view of EVERYONE, and I’m very nice!

        Just sayin 🙂

    • MBear

      LOL

      So… he’s wholly insincere and predatory so he thinks everyone else is

      • AJ Drew

        A sociopath/psychopath is not without emotions, they just don’t believe anyone else has emotions. (I learned this from a Netflix show, so, it might not be true.)

    • safari
    • Skeptical_Inquirer

      So, is he projecting or boasting about how he tricked his previous victims?

      • gaycuckhubby

        Both?

    • djcoastermark

      Sex traitors, how Handmaids Tale of him.

      • AJ Drew

        Yup. Not the most awful thing in that text, but the most wtf, indeed.

        • Cuberly Deux

          What exactly is a sex traitor?

          • AJ Drew

            I have little doubt that’s an attempted reference to Chelsea Manning, but Assange has a lot of real-world catching up to do.

    • fuzzybits

      What a gross and evil man.

    • Cuberly Deux

      What the ever living F is that?

    • worstcultever

      I stopped reading at “Women,”

      • Lumpy Gaga

        Julian Assange, mansplainer.

    • OdieDenCO

      bullshit! assange has no idea what a real man is. he’s a rapist.

    • worstcultever

      Srsly, he’s as lame, stupid, isolated, and self-irrelevantized as any Norma Desmond caricature. He and Dumpy should get married.

    • Lumpy Gaga

      Soooo, these are “our” choices, then?

    • Talisman

      Or, you know, you can treat women with respect: allow them to finish a thought, understand that they have expertise and knowledge, not comment on their appearance, not come on to them, and generally treat them the say way you would treat a male coworker.

    • Claude Jacques Bonhomme

      Takes one to know one.

    • DoctorDJ

      Someone squeeze Julian?

  • Joe in PA

    He really doesn’t know what quotes around a word mean. Good grief. idiot.

    • worstcultever

      And Steve Miller doesn’t know either! NONE of the WH ignorami understand quotation marks, ffs! They’re idiots about capitalization, too!

      • UrsusArctos 🐻

        At least in the original Deutsche capitalization serves to mark nouns.

    • UrsusArctos 🐻

      From what I have seen of his use of them it’s a shorthand to deplorables indicating “fake”.

  • Cuberly Deux

    Uh oh, I’m in a Jane Horrocks and French and Saunders loop.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKIiIzCaeXY
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6Q0dmLGmgE

    • AJ Drew

      HOW did you sink so low? Must I summon the gay-elder-superhero-timewarp force?

      • Cuberly Deux

        No, I’ll just have to let it run it’s course. (sigh)

        • AJ Drew

          No, no, we’re on they way. Wonder-gays, activate! Owww, my finger hurts. (Ahem, give us a bit more time…)

    • worstcultever

      lots worse places to be stuck!

      Dawn French makes me laff just by existing

      • Cuberly Deux

        I agree, Dawn rocks!

    • Natty Enquirer

      Strip out the laugh track and I might give it a chance.

      • Cuberly Deux

        I’m always surprised how many britcoms have them. Though quite a few are taped in front of an audience. Like Abfab.

    • Cuberly Deux
  • boobert

    I was looking on President Obama’s twitter about the 5 former presidents and say this tweet. LOL https://twitter.com/DeMarko_Gage/status/921889936604884992

    • Sam_Handwich

      well ain’t that cute!

    • fuzzybits

      And parties across the land.

    • Adam King

      You silly.

    • Natty Enquirer

      Nice pants. Don’t sing.

  • Lars Littlefield

    Coming soon to the Logo Channel:

    • Lars Littlefield

      I can’t imagine what they’re thinking

  • Hue-Man

    O/T Did the Cruz family kill Pablo Neruda, too? Or was it Henry Kissinger?

    The Nobel Laureate was said to have died of cancer in 1973, less than two weeks after a military coup led by General Augusto Pinochet.
    But his former driver Manuel Araya maintains he actually died after being poisoned by the secret service.
    New tests on Neruda’s remains have now confirmed he did not die of cancer, but have yet to reveal the actual cause.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-41702706

    • worstcultever

      *waving hand* – Kissinger!

      • UrsusArctos 🐻

        Never met an atrocity/war crime he didn’t love.

    • Lars Littlefield

      This is most unsettling news.

      • Hue-Man

        I didn’t mean to make light of Neruda’s assassination. He was about to go into exile and would have been a powerful voice against the Kissinger= backed regime. I undertake to watch Il Postino tomorrow – it’s been too many years.

  • fuzzybits
    • worstcultever

      hm, nice idea but so visually frantic and overstuffed

      my only note: start over & respect the main principle of everything: less is more

      • fuzzybits

        True. It wasn’t as good as I thought it was when I saw it a long time ago.

  • Henry Auvil

    Sad.

    • worstcultever

      Everything is fucking sad.

  • Talisman

    Hillary on Graham Norton. Lot’s of dumpster bashing. Lots of laughter.

    • Lazycrockett

      I just really wish she had taken the couch with the other guests.

      • Talisman

        It was recorded earlier. She probably had other commitments during the normal recording time.

        • AJ Drew

          “security concerns” was cited, which seems apt.

          • Talisman

            I doubt Goldblum or the comedian would have been much of a security risk. Butler, on the other hand….

      • worstcultever

        god DAMN why wasn’t she just this pajama-party chill bish during the campaign! oh well I love seeing her so relaxed anyway

        (and had she won, we’d be seeing the Mercer Nazi Dumpy Putin army creating 100x more chaos than even now)

      • UrsusArctos 🐻

        Say Rachel Maddow, Nick Offerman, Alex Baldwin, Stephen Colbert, and Kathy Griffin?

    • Treant

      So we should expect Crooked Hillary Tweets one after the other all day tomorrow. She’s stolen his spotlight!

  • houstonray
    • AJ Drew

      And yet he’s POTUS, has no restrictions, is granting pardons to other felons, and the worst part is that if he’s impeached, we get Pence. We’re just fooked for the next few years. Time to focus elsewhere. Vote. Vote, vote, vote. DEMs for local schools, county seats, and on up. Only way this ends. Not quickly, but so be it. Either that or a true bloody revolution, I’d prefer the quieter option.

      • Adam King

        ^^^Hear and pay heed! The truth is before you!^^^

      • Galvestonian

        … Pence can be impeached, too.

        • Exatron

          Then we’re stuck with Ryan.

          • lymis

            Yes we would be. But neither Congress nor the media – nor, frankly, the donor class – would let Ryan get away with a tenth of what they ignore from Trump.

          • Phillip in L.A.

            Not if we flip the House in 2018–then the Speaker will be chosen from a non-Republican party

      • JT

        And don’t accept shithead Nazi enablers and their moronic ideas.

    • Steverino

      Also a classic piece of right-wing projection, of which Trump is particularly adept.

  • Sam_Handwich

    was just watching a clip of Obama speaking at the hurricane fundraiser event with the other 4 past presidents on stage. Dotard will never join that club.

    • AJ Drew

      ah, but I’ll be in line to see what’s in the DT presidential library… whooo, a gazillion trees will die in order to preserve each and every Tweet, but, I wanna see them recorded forever.

    • worstcultever

      most ghastly asterisk in American – nay, world – history

    • edrex

      no he will not.

    • Talisman

      Hopefully, Bush, Sr will outlive the dumpster.

    • safari

      He’ll be in jail or dead of health problems.

  • fuow

    I never did much care for facebook.
    As to Trump – thanks all you gay men whose none-vote put him into office. What a pile of steaming shit the rest of us gays now have to deal with.

    • blackstar

      agree but don’t forget the election was stolen.

      • fuow

        Well, yes, but had we Democrats turned out in number, this could still have been avoided.
        All elections are gerrymandered to benefit rethugs. All likely Democratic voters are disadvantaged, if not outright blocked by voter-disenfranchisement laws.
        Doesn’t change the basic fact of the matter, though – we simple don’t vote in sufficient number.

        • worstcultever

          I still think a TON of would-be Hillary voters just didn’t bother because the MSM/conventional wisdom was that she was 99% likely to be elected, blahblahblah .. didn’t think their vote was needed

          • houstonray

            I know two people in my circle who did just that. I begged them to vote but it was a mentality of “we’re in a red state, though a blue city, so in the end it doesn’t matter, besides, she’s got this nailed”.

            One of them is now working with a group to flip Texas to blue by 2024 or sooner.

          • AJ Drew

            *that* attitude is exactly where we should be focused. How to do it, how to get them to vote? I don’t know, honestly, but we need to do it.

        • Lazycrockett

          I think in time we will know how much voter suppression effect the vote. Wisconsin this week released data that showed over 45,000 people were turned away at the polls. Drump only one by 20,000.

          • fuow

            Yeah, and that’s only what the admit to. I’m not underplaying the damage voter suppression/disenfranchisement causes – just, the reason the rethugs and christers can do it is our refusal to show up in 2010, 2012, 2014 and 2016. We have yet to learn that elections have consequences. Those who hate us have learned that lesson well. We’re still arguing over how many non-existent angels can’t dance on the head of a non-existent pin.

    • AJ Drew

      Blame the gays! wth is your point other than venting some anger? (especially *here*.)

      • Natty Enquirer

        It’s that “we simple don’t vote in sufficient number.” Because, you know, we are too busy partying on Fire Island and stuff like that.

      • fuow

        Wow. OK, so you missed the whole cultural appropriation stuff and the whole, only someone who is exactly in the same position and has exactly the same lived experience has the right to comment on your behaviour stuff….
        OK, bitch, so here it is: I was out and loud and proud back when it was still illegal to even be gay. I am still out and loud and proud and I always, always, always vote. I also work within the Democratic Party every fucking year, not just in the generals.
        So – guess what, bitch? I know (oh, and before Miss Thang screams ‘anecdotal’, the stats. back this up): Far too many gay men neither support the only party standing between us and a christer theocracy to make Nazi Germany look mild. Far too many gay men voted in November 2016.
        So – That’s why I, a flaming queen of a tres-gay gay man in a very gay way criticize my fellow gay men here who didn’t vote or, equally bad, voted ‘Green’ to teach me and other Democrats a ‘lesson’.
        Not that you’ll actually grasp anything I’ve written, bitch – I’ve only been commenting around here since last week, right?

  • Lars Littlefield

    Important Safety Alert!

    Never make pepperoni pizza with pepper jack cheese . Trust me on this.

    • AJ Drew

      OK, I’ll ask… why? It sounds like it would be ok, so what went wrong?!

    • houstonray

      Did it explode? I love pepper jack cheese.

      • AJ Drew

        Well, either he’s already dead from some previously unknown pepper allergy, or he used processed cheese slices and doesn’t want to admit it… otherwise, the combo seems ok, yeah?

    • safari

      I mean, the jalapenos will release oil in to the fat in the cheese and you’ll have a fun time.

      • AJ Drew

        Perhaps Lars has a pepper allergy or a sudden realization he’s lactose intolerant.

        • safari

          I’m thinking its the peppers. If you ever take a pizza and put the red pepper flakes on before throwing it in the oven, they’ll get really spicy.

          • Lars Littlefield

            I’m thinking you are right. 🙁

        • Lars Littlefield

          Curiously, I can eat pickled or raw jalapeños, serrannos or habaneros without problems. I’m not lactose intolerant. I suspect a combination of the spices in the pepperoni and the two kinds of chiles (p;us natural pepper oil flavorings) used to make pepper jack cheese is not a good idea.

          • AJ Drew

            Glad you’re alive and ok.

          • Lars Littlefield

            Thanks. It sure puts the kibosh on getting a good hummer tonight. 🙁

          • safari

            Reminds me of a story about the parents of friends of my ex, their weekend at their lake cottage, pepperoni and jalapeno pizza, and cunnilingus.

          • Lars Littlefield

            Yikes!

          • DoctorDJ
          • Lars Littlefield

            LOL!!!

          • MBear

            Serrano and habanero?
            Kid stuff

            Glad yall okay, tho. 😉

            Bring on the Reapers!

          • safari

            Eating spicy peppers hurts. Expelling them hurts worse.

          • William

            Insert Popsicle in other end.

          • MBear

            #CulturalDifferences #SoColonial

          • Lars Littlefield

            I gotta say, in Scovil heat terms, the hottest food I’ve ever encountered is Indonesian, then Thai, followed by Indian. Mexican cuisine is always more subtle, layering levels of spiciness. At least Mexican cuisine in Mexico. For example, what is popularly known as jalapeno poppers in the US is chiles ecurtidos milenesa in Oaxaca, where pickled jalapenos are stuffed with cheese and tiny shrimp, dipped in egg batter, fried like chilies rellenos, and served on a plate of medium hot ranchero sauce. The different chiles are used to create an orchestra of flavor.

            I don’t think we’ll be buying pepper jack cheese again anytime soon. ;=)

          • MBear

            The hottest food I’ve had is from my own kitchen.

            I make fermented hot sauces. Starting on this year’s batch from our home grown peppers: reapers, 7 pot, scorps, bhut jolokia, devil’s tongue, etc.

            Made some harissa last week with scotch bonnet.

            Have one jar left of my Carolina Reaper sauce – Scoville reference: formerly the Guinness Record Holder for hottest pepper, surpassed by one whose name i forget which was then surpassed recently by Pepper X.

            We’re capsaicin addicts. We eat out rarely, but when we go to our local place for wings they break out the flash bang for us. (Just a few drops per pound of wings, tho)

            Note: cubsband couldn’t handle spicy when we met. It was easier to get him addicted than to get me to cook “not spicy ”

            We’re on holiday now, but im craving a spicy breakkie now. Nom nom nom

          • Lars Littlefield

            Isn’t there a Ghost pepper that is supposedly almost deadly?
            We probably cook and eat much spicier food than most, but we don’t go too hot. My mother-in-out-law has carefully groomed me to understand and appreciate what chiles go into which foods and why. One thing my partner can’t deal with despite his genetic tolerance for things WAY private is black pepper. He didn’t grow up in a culture that uses it, if at all. Odd, that.

          • MBear

            Pepper X is supposed to be possibly deadly if eaten str8, but who the fk does that? I believe it was bred for medicinal use. Sharing that from memory because we’re on holiday and not near a computer.

            We’re still experimenting with the flavours of combining super hots with different ingredients and different styles of prep (cooking v fermenting vs fresh pastes) for our hot sauces.

            That scotch bonnet harissa? I tempered the heat with roasted red pepper and sundried tomato. Then i mixed up a harissa mayo with it, which was great with leftover grilled chicken or steak on tortillas with homegrown tomatoes.

            Momma didn’t teach me to cook like this. Heh

          • Lars Littlefield

            I used to make my own salsa with jalapenos, everything fresh and just blanching the skins off of the tomatoes. But a few years ago the mother[in-out-law patiently taught me to use serrano along with unpeeled tomatoes, white onions, and garlic. Nothing else. The major difference was roasting everything on a comal, skins and all. Then smashing everything up with a big molcahete (mortar and pestle). I still peel the white onions, but the charred skin on the garlic, tomatoes and peppers stays. It’s amazing salsa. Doesn’t even need salt.

          • MBear

            We’ve been using the bbq for jalapenos and garlic, but ive never used roasted tomatoes in salsa. That sounds awesome. I love roasted tomatoes…mmm. Now im going to use a comal for it all. Thank you!!!

            Dont have a molcajete currently. Mmm…food processor. 😉

          • Cuberly Deux

            A glass of milk with staunch the pain. If I recall correctly lactose intercepts the capsasin in the pain receptors.Sorta heading them off at the pass.

      • Lars Littlefield

        So we have come to find out.

    • UrsusArctos 🐻

      It will all come out OK. Hang (on) in there. *fleeing*

    • Snarkaholic

      Not to worry; I hate peppers…to me they’re like kryptonite!

  • Blake J Butler
    • houstonray

      Wow. When those tweets are put side by side with those images, it’s kind of jarring and stunning….

    • Lazycrockett

      Anyone who watched his descend from his gold escalator and bash Mexicans on the day he announced his run aren’t surprised.

      • UrsusArctos 🐻

        He probably thinks those brown people in PR stole hurricane Maria from white people in the USA.

    • cleos_mom

      I suspect Puerto Rico’s choice in the 2016 primary had something to do with it as well.

      http://www.npr.org/2016/03/06/469413814/marco-rubio-wins-puerto-rico-primary

  • MikeBx2

    Astros clobbered the Yankees 4-0 and will meet the Dodgers in the 2017 World Series.

  • houstonray

    My hometown team is World Series bound! SO excited (and I’m not even a baseball fan but man, what a series/game).

    • MikeBx2

      Yes, good game and should be a good World Series.

      • houstonray

        And I live literally 3 blocks from the stadium. Of course, tix start at about $750 each so…..

        • sfbob

          I was born within about a mile of Yankee Stadium. Where the replacement stadium now stands used to be a park where I’d play when we visited my dad’s side of the family who lived in the South Bronx well into the 70s.

          I did manage to get to a WS game at Yankee Stadium back in 1978. One of my college friends was a commodities trader; he provided the tickets. I’m sure I’d never have been able to afford one myself.

  • safari
    • MikeBx2

      Ha!

  • Lars Littlefield
  • Ninja0980

    Rooting for the Dodgers.
    Hell of a year for the Yankees… just wish it hadn’t ended so soon.

    • MikeBx2

      Yes, another great year for the Yankees. I was expecting an L.A. / NY series but those Astros were impressive. No doubt, the Yanks will be right back in it next year.

      • Ninja0980

        Verlander made the difference, period.
        Why it drove me nuts when the Yankees didn’t grab him off waivers.
        You can get to one ace (we did.)
        Hard to get to two.

  • safari

    Bill O’Reilly is claiming his innocence despite paying $32M.

    OJ’s civil suit, according to Josh Barrow, ended with a $33M verdict. What the hell is Bill hiding?

    It’s amazing Bill is still trying to paint himself as an innocent.

    • Lars Littlefield

      He’s trolling for a presidential pardon when the time comes he ever really faces jail time.

      • UrsusArctos 🐻

        He’ll need that $32M to buy his pardon.

    • Cuberly Deux

      So the risk assessment his lawyers came back with estimated that if the case went to court, it’d be cheaper if he settled for 32Mil.

      Gretchen Carlson was paid 20Mil, which I bet a lot of that was because of the many many vid clips of Carlson being subjected to sexist idiocy by her “Friends” codweebs.

      Bill’s case must have been a doozy.

      • The_Wretched

        No trial costs 32 mil or close and it’s higher than jurors award and would have been lowered on appeal. He’s hiding some serious shit.

        • Cuberly Deux

          Yep. Makes me think there’s more than just accusations, like evidence, witnesses….and it’s baaaaaaaaad.

  • safari
    • safari

      I’m sure we’ll get a bunch of conspiracy theories popping up over their contents. But just remember that this was a process started decades ago.

    • -M-

      Ooh , a new nickname for the collection.

    • houstonray

      Orange Foolius is EPIC!

    • Lazycrockett

      Yep he would have to sign a EO to NOT have them released. Such stupidity.

      • Talisman

        There’s nothing the dumpster likes more than an EO. Funny the Repuglicants are suddenly fine with EOs.

        But, then, they aren’t being signed by a black man.

        • Gianni

          Ding,Ding! Hitting the nail on the head!

    • UrsusArctos 🐻

      I wonder if the 45* administration is planning a parade to celebrate.

      • safari

        Celebratory Cuban invasion

        • UrsusArctos 🐻

          Not a re-enactment in Dallas?

          • safari

            Too soon

          • UrsusArctos 🐻

            You’re confused. The “too soon” is reserved for action or introspection after a MASS killing. It’s right there in the NRA handbook.

          • safari

            I must have forgotten to read my copy.

          • William

            It’s been done several times.

        • Talisman

          I think he’s prefer to invade Mexico.

      • DoctorDJ
  • safari
    • UrsusArctos 🐻

      He probably has “people” to do all his upcoming atoning and making restitution, so he’s able to go light on repairing the internal broken piece of shit that oversees his actions and impulse control. /snark

    • Lazycrockett

      Hes old, wealthy and probably untouchable so why the fuck not.

    • MikeBx2

      Is he wearing his bath robe?

      • Lazycrockett

        Save the potted plants.

    • Cuberly Deux

      …and two more women came forward today.

  • Blake J Butler
  • safari

    I want 2018 to be a year of renewal. 2017 blows.

  • blackstar
    • Cuberly Deux

      Is it wrong the word anachronistic popped in my head when I saw that pic?

      ….and the feeling isn’t going away.

    • MBear

      At least one of those should be in jail for war crimes

      • Cuberly Deux

        Yep.

  • Talisman

    I had a doctor’s appointment on Thursday, and got a flu shot. They used an new intradermal injection, which injects the vaccine just below the skin instead of into the muscle itself, as is traditional. The nurse said the only side-effect might be a bit of itchiness.

    Well, for me, it ended up swelling up and hurting like a boil, affecting an area like 3 inches across. Tonight, it’s the size of a penny, but still red & sore.

    • ZRAinSWVA

      There’s always the exception…sorry it had to be you.

  • Ninja0980

    Advance notice that in a couple of weeks, I will be taking a brief hiatus from JMG.
    The memories of election night and the aftermath are just hard to relive.

    • johncAtl

      But that was so many years ago. At least it seems like it was.

      Enjoy the break from here. I still skip past so many postings because I just can’t bear to read them.

    • safari

      Take the time to heal 🙂

  • TexasBoy

    Q: Mr. Trump, do you have any comment on the Russian advertising campaign to influence the 2016 election on your behalf?

    A: Yes, …er…ummm. uhhhh. QUICK! Look over there! It’s crooked Hillary! Benghazi! Email!

    Kellyanne the next day: What President Trump was saying is….

    Sarah the next day: How dare they ask that sort of question to our President.

    NRA: Stop attacking President Trump, to do so is un-American, you are NOT patriotic!

    Putin: Leave my puppet alone!

    • Skeptical_Inquirer

      Every time Putin says to kiss Trump’s butt, my estimation of his intelligence falls.

      • Karl Dubhe

        You should be asking why he’s saying that. 🙂

        Is it because he wants to give the impression that he wasn’t involved with the election of Trump, or that he wants to give the impression that he was? Or is there another reason to behave in this way.

        The man wants to destabilize and discredit western style democracy, in part because of what the west ‘did’ to his country. (from his pov)

    • Lazycrockett

      I never thought I would live in a world where Putin is telling the American public to be kind to and give Drumpf a chance…..but here we are.

      • Karl Dubhe

        Can you imagine finding a ‘time-machine’ and going back to the 1970s and trying to explain the last few years to the people who lived then?

        Shieeet…

        • cleos_mom

          I lived then. I’m elderly but believe it or not, I have no direct memory of the Battle of Hastings. 😉

          The 1980 election was pretty much the end of America as we knew it — Trump’s White House occupancy wouldn’t have happened without it. Wouldn’t have happened if so many people hadn’t voted on the basis of being able to deliver a good one-liner.

          • Karl Dubhe

            At this point I see the 1980 election as the inevitable result of letting Richard Nixon get away with his crimes against your nation with a pardon for everything he ever did.

            I’m sure there are other things that can be said to have led to that fucked up decision. 🙁

    • ZRAinSWVA

      That ‘look over there’ is rampant on Faux News and similar sites…seems the vast majority of the extreme right have taken the red pill and believe their own diversions as truth.

  • safari

    It’s homecoming weekend at MSU. We won our game. I expect great stupidity tonight.

    • FAEN

      Atta boy?

      • safari

        Just the usual stupidity from me.

    • fuzzybits

      Couch and dumpster fires.

      • safari

        We had two crashes last night that involved extracting people. Two deaths from that alone.

        • fuzzybits

          I thought I was invincible at that age.

          • safari

            I turned 25 and the warranty ran out.

          • fuzzybits

            I’m just glad I quit smoking or I would be like my neighbor across the street and be lugging oxygen around.

    • safari

      Mmm. Two signals to clear the air in the last 10 minutes because of B&Es in progress and one car that lead a chase. And multiple fights in progress.

    • OdieDenCO

      be sure to check the bushes for drunk frat boys in the AM

  • fuzzybits
    • safari

      So cute.

      • fuzzybits

        I like how he tucks his tail in at the end.

        • safari

          I didn’t notice that. It’s amazing how flexible they canb e.

          • Christopher

            Just once in my life I want to be as comfortable as a cat can be.

            Just once.

    • safari
      • fuzzybits

        I knew a guy years ago that had two Siamese and they would sit on each end of the mantle like that.

      • whollyfool

        Omg that’s awesome! We use Sphinx as a verb (“Tuppence is sphinxing”) and now i know it’s true!!! Cats are wise and fierce guardians as well.

        Tho I’m a bit off cats today as I spent 3 hours arguing with them while trying to evict a chipmunk from my house. 😛

      • Avenger280

        Hovercat is hovering 😀

  • fuzzybits
  • Gianni

    I may have missed it, but has there been at least one day in this nine-month torture called the Trump Admin that this baby hasn’t cried about something?

    • TampaDink

      Not yet….but we can hope that there will be at least one day when he’s not twitter attacking someone.

      • Gianni

        That’s the one day I hope the Congress says, ” You’re out, Mr. President.” If you listen to FOX News, especially Hannity, and didn’t know any better, you would swear that this man is an angel sent directly from heaven to save us all from ourselves.

  • Ninja0980

    https://twitter.com/atensnut/status/921020887960375299?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.newsweek.com%2Fjuanita-broaddrick-monica-lewinskys-metoo-your-silence-was-deafening-688924
    Just saw this on a Newsweek article.
    If she wants to attack Monica, ask her why when she was put under oath she stated Bill Clinton didn’t rape her?
    Also ask her why the man she is in the photo with is going to bring back a man who has sexually harassed (and worse) with numerous women onto his show next week and is pushing the theme that he was wrongfully terminated?
    I have friends that were victim of sexual assault and I can tell you folks like this (she is a liar IMO based on what she’s done) only make it harder for true victims to be believed.

    • NowAnAgnostic

      Everything I ever heard Monica Lewinsky was infatuated with Bill Clinton. It was the ugly friend, Linda Tripp (R), who convinced her to save the blue dress.

    • TampaDink

      Poor Monica, if only there were some way that she had known that the guy she was blowing was married. /sarcasm.

    • Karl Dubhe

      Anytime the boss has sex with you, it’s a sexual assault. It fucks up the life of the person who’s being assaulted.

      Either they believe the cheater is going to divorce his wife/partner and go with you (ha! Gingrich). Or the asshole leads the long term trick on, then when the beauty’s gone so is the ‘relationship’.

      I don’t have much sympathy for the ones who are star-fuckers, like Monica, but the ones who were like my great aunt I feel sorry for. She thought he’d marry her; he didn’t.

  • BeaverTales

    I’ve been researching gay serial killers in history for the past few weeks, and most are men I’ve never heard of.

    Oct 2017: Two Jeffrey Dahmer movies being released…the media is still fascinated with him 23 years after he died…few serial killers (gay or straight) have garnered as much attention as Dahmer has. I think it’s only because he was considered conventionally handsome at the time of his capture.

    He’s in some ways easy to research because he gave so many interviews before he died. He’s also the hardest because so much that has been written about him has been fictionalized.

    Ross Lynch Plays Gay Serial Killer Jeffrey Dahmer In ‘My Friend Dahmer’
    http://www.ontopmag.com/article/32960/Ross_Lynch_Plays_Gay_Serial_Killer_Jeffrey_Dahmer_In_My_Friend_Dahmer
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAkOZ5zB_x0

    Watch a Teaser for Oxygen’s Dahmer on Dahmer: A Serial Killer Speaks
    http://www.vulture.com/2017/10/dahmer-on-dahmer-a-serial-killer-speaks-teaser.html

    • TampaDink

      Our neighborhood just made national news because we apparently have another serial killer on the loose. Our last one and his accomplice went to federal prison for 200 & 40 yrs. but the accomplice plead guilty to two murder charges for life in exchange for testifying against the guy who lived 8 blocks from us….and he’s finally about to go on trial for murdering two young gay men that they picked up in a bar, drugged, raped & murdered. It is disgusting to comprehend that the rapist/murders are both gay.

      http://www.tampabay.com/news/courts/criminal/steven-lorenzo-appears-in-tampa-court-13-years-after-torture-murders/2338959

      • BeaverTales

        Most serial killers work alone, but this is clearly not the first time they have worked in teams. Now I have even more to read before bed…

        I knew nothing about Lorenzo and Schweikert until now. The gay serial killers who murdered a few miles from me were scary enough because I knew the gay venues rest stops and street corners where they picked up victims and also the areas where they dumped the bodies.

        I’m also guilty of letting my guard down around my fellow gay men.

        Randy Kraft, Patrick Kearney and William Bonin operated in the Long Beach/ South Bay/ OC/ San Diego area at the same time during the 70s and mid 80s. They murdered up to 200 guys my age mostly (age 10 up to late 20s). To think my parents let me wander the neighborhoods alone after grade 4, but never mentioned the killings of young boys and men just a few miles away, probably thinking it was all urban legend….neither did my tricks nor bar friends. I think that’s why I can’t stop reading about this stuff.

        The traffic when I grew up is much less than now, but the time it must have taken to drug and kill the victims was often less than an hour. These sociopaths can strike quickly and most have had experience killing dozens of people. All the victims were overwhelmed by spiked alcoholic beverages or guns or sex aimed at them, murdered either *before* or after being raped, and sometimes not even raped at all

        The details would have been useful to know for a closeted young gayling like me. I was completely blind to this. How many lives could have been saved if these murders were publicized the way they are now?

        Most of the victims died horribly. Unspeakably horribly. Like the murders in Tampa are very real for you, The murders in Southern California are equally real for me. Mostly because back in my day, they were meeting victims in many of the same parks, rest stops, baths and bars that I visited when I was first exploring my sexuality..as a teen and pre-teen. I am just having a hard time digesting the extent of the mayhem happening in my back yard.

      • BeaverTales

        I just looked on google maps at the neighborhood where these killings happened. It looks like pretty much just a non-descript middle class Tampa neighborhood. It could easily be Anywheresville, USA.

        Please be careful.

    • JT

      few serial killers (gay or straight) have garnered as much attention as
      Dahmer has. I think it’s only because he was considered conventionally
      handsome at the time of his capture.

      Well, there’s also that thing about cannibalism.

    • JT

      You should watch Mindhunter on Netflix with Jonathan Groff. It’s about the FBI attempt in the ’70s to create profiles of serial killers. There’s a segment about Dahmer.

      • BeaverTales

        I’m trying to grasp the reality of this stuff and then maybe Mindhunter will make more sense. I’m really trying hard to understand what kinds of people these are. I’ve always thought fiction was fiction, but it’s worth a try….Netflix?

  • Avenger280

    I’m just off of a huge online argument with both of my straight white brothers. I keep telling them to be afraid, that Cheetolini and the GOP are not to be trusted. I keep warning them about Dominionists. One brother buries his head in the sand and just won’t discuss anything “political”. The other one pooh-poohs me and tells me I’m over-reacting and that nothing is going to happen. I love my brothers but nobody will listen to me!!!!!!

    • whollyfool

      🙁 I’m sorry.

      A couple of years I might have said the same as them. It took me a long time to stop worrying that I was a crazy conspiracy theorist (there are a few in my family) when Russia installed a US president. But when you see Nazis in the streets and it’s not condemned, and the Cabinet and other high level positions given/sold to industry lobbyists or former wedding planners, it’s time to think the unthinkable could happen. “It can’t happen here” is not a luxury we have anymore.

      That said, your brothers may have to see for themselves in time. 🙁 Some people are like that. Or maybe you could enlist a respected and neutral family member to try to quietly bring the subject up in passing…. We sometimes use that on our conspiracy theorists. 🙁

      Here’s a hug. (Hug!) Families can be pretty frustrating. :/

      • TampaDink

        Agreed. My most frustrating family members are the NRA loving die hard republicans who “had” to sell off some of their AK-47’s during the Obama administration. I try to keep our conversations at a minimum.

        • BeaverTales

          I think that Stephen Paddock style sociopaths are far from as rare as we think. Some of them probably hold political office, and many are likely to know ways to skirt cybersecurity and deflect attention.

          Paddock smuggled a small armory into a Vegas hotel room, ffs!!! I don’t think the mental health system will be able to identify all of them.We have to think for ourselves and learn how to defend ourselves

    • BeaverTales

      My family is black, has several gay people and immigrants. All are growing very frightened most live in California, where open Trump supporters are somewhat rare..

  • jpinphx

    No one ever tells the president to shut up and TRY to run the country?

  • JT
  • TuuxKabin

    What does old age mean to you?
    Oh God, I never use those words. I just call it wisdom. Time is like a space capsule… We are in space, not time. I spend a lot of time in the sea. And I’m a sky stalker, I look at the sky, look out. I would love to go into outer space.

    https://www.theguardian.com/music/2017/oct/22/grace-jones-interview-bloodlight-and-bami-trump-size-zero-walking-dead

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgMn2OJmx3w

  • SoCalGal20

    Joy’s show today! Nancy Pelosi AND Frederica Wilson!

    https://twitter.com/joyannreid/status/922059204516548608

  • Mike__in_Houston

    I swear, I am so damned sick of The Screaming Cheeto and of hearing about it. I’ve run out of insults and I wish that it and its whole administration would just go away.

    I think Rachel Maddow and Lawrence O’Donnell and the rest are doing a yeoman’s job keeping us apprised of the latest scandals from that asshole, but I can’t bring myself to watch them any more because not enough people who have the power to bring this national nightmare to an end are listening or care. It is still in office and will continue to be for as long as it chooses to or until it gets us all blown off the face of the earth. It continues to pat itself on the back for the execrable job our country is doing in Puerto Rico, while the situation there keeps deteriorating and people continue to die.

    The media has been on Harvey Weinstein, whom I frankly had never heard of before, like flies on shit, while The Orange Shitgibbon, who could have been Mr. Weinstein’s mentor, goes almost completely ignored for the same crimes. I guess it was right about being able to do anything it wanted.

    There are so many times when the results of this rigged election could have been stopped, beginning with the electoral college, but here we are. Mr. Mueller, I hope you are being paid well, because ultimately, your salary is going to be the only satisfaction anyone derives from this otherwise wasted investigation.

    We are stuck with this conatant onslaught of idiocy and utter incompetence until 2020, and possibly beyond. That is of course, as I said, assuming any of us are still here in 2020.

  • Michael R
  • JT

    I’m waiting for a book entitled The Biggest Con in American History about Drumpf’s campaign, election and short time as Preznit.

    • Reality.Bites

      It’ll be called The Biggliest Con in American History

  • greenmanTN
  • Sam_Handwich
  • Jack Giles

    Nothing worse than a poor Winner!

  • Sam_Handwich
  • OdieDenCO

    HA!

    Please see my statement rescinding the appointment of a Goodwill Ambassador for NCDs in Africahttps://t.co/dyxFzNAFqk— Tedros Adhanom (@DrTedros) October 22, 2017

    • greenmanTN

      Good, but it’s interesting he doesn’t mention WHY picking Mugabe was such an offensive, wrong-headed thing to do.

  • kladinvt

    Oh blow it out your big fat orange ass!

  • worstcultever

    The final exchange of an interview with the great writer Vladimir Nabokov, published in the Paris Review, many decades ago –

    Interviewer: What would you say is your basic credo?

    Nabokov: I believe in the power of art over trash, of magic over the brute.

    I fell in love with that statement, carried it in my heart ever since, wrapped myself in it like a warrior comfort blanket.

    Now that blanket feels in tatters. Perhaps Nabokov knew we’d all be reduced to relying on kitten rescue videos for our collective sanity.

    • another_steve

      The one defines the other, you know. Were it not for trash and bad art, how would we know good art? Were it not for brutishness, how would we know the soft and the gentle? We only know and recognize the one because we know and recognize the other.

      This is why, I think, it’s best to embrace the entire world.

    • greenmanTN

      Don’t give in to despair. This has the potential to end up being a good thing in the long run.

      Had Hillary won there would have been (pointless) show-trials and Investigations from day one and nothing would have gotten done. Instead the GOP has damaged its brand and its ability to blame ANYBODY for ANYTHING ever again.

      Russia meddled in, I personally believe hacked, our election. As a result we might harden our voting infrastructure and mandate all votes leave a paper trail. Further, we see the intended effect of vote suppression and end it. Now.

      The alt-right has stepped into the light it’s easier to destroy what you can see.

      I know, I know, maybe wishful thinking, but better than despair.

      http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/pollyanna.jpg

      • another_steve

        Actually I think that’s realistic, not wishful, thinking, greenman.

        The United States has institutions and traditions that this current monstrous administration won’t be able to destroy. Foremost among them in this time of peril, the free press. The more Trump insults and belittles it, the stronger and more defiant it becomes.

        And there’s still an opposition party. The Democrats appreciate that Trump represents an existential threat to our form of democracy. I think the Democratic Party will emerge from this horror even stronger than it was before.

      • worstcultever

        That was a great little damn movie. Maybe I was just in thrall to Hayley Mills, which how could any baby gayelle not be? 🙂

        I’m such a Pollyanna and TOTAL misanthropic pessimist equally – gah!

        Anyway totally agree that this had to happen – I could not BEAR to see what the USA Puke/Nazi Brigades would be doing to Prez Hillz. Instead we see the full evil dick-wagging crapfest (btw, WHY are they so more incredibly furious than ever – they fucking “won”!) on full parade. No hiding in the dark under the kitchen stove anymore. Gah. Definitely the most crazed national shitstorm since the Civil War. But at a real-life level – I still see normal kind decent people everywhere I go. We’re still here!

        • greenmanTN

          I too am a pie-eyed optimist and a misanthropic pessimist. What can I say. I can compartmentalize like a motherfucker!

    • JT

      Nabokov, who wrote so beautifully in English, a language not his native tongue, fled from a country that, many years later, helped to install as President a criminal who can’t even speak his native language properly. I wonder if Nabokov’s sense of irony could have made art out of trash in this instance.

  • netxtown

    Obviously it is his impotence that has led to pussy grabbing and duggaring a phone.

    • JT

      His peepee is so small and his gut so big that no one could tell anyway.

      • netxtown

        i believe the proper term is “inny”.

  • worstcultever
  • Gigi

    Trump has gotten nearly $3 billion in ‘free’ advertising
    http://www.marketwatch.com/amp/story/guid/52A4AAF8-139C-11E6-8A63-05821B538728

    • JT

      That’s Drumpf’s “tiny” amount. Similar to his “big” hands and his “high” IQ.