Betsy DeVos Sued Over Title IX Sexual Assault Rules

The Associated Press reports:

A national women’s rights group and three Massachusetts women filed a lawsuit Thursday challenging the U.S. Education Department’s new guidance on investigating campus sexual assaults.

The Los Angeles-based Equal Means Equal and the three women, who have separately accused their colleges of mishandling complaints of sexual assault, say the new guidance is discriminatory and violates state and federal civil rights laws. They’re asking the U.S. District Court in Massachusetts to suspend the rules and prevent schools across the country from adopting them.

An Education Department spokeswoman did not immediately provide comment. On Sept. 22, Education Secretary Betsy DeVos scrapped federal rules that were created under President Barack Obama and replaced them with interim guidance while the Education Department crafts new ones. Among other changes, her guidance allows schools to use a higher standard of evidence for reviewing complaints than the previous rules allowed.

  • boatboy_srq

    There is something SO VERY WRONG with having to sue the female head of a federal department to protect women’s rights.

    #NotPatriotic

    • Todd20036

      You’d think, but there are women who think that men should be able to control all aspects of ALL women’s lives.

      • Tawreos

        If she is one of them then she has no business being out in public let alone in charge of a governmental department.

        • bambinoitaliano

          The fucking moron has destroyed any moral authority that is left in the federal bureaus. Think of a house infested with termites and bed bugs. The federal government no longer resemble or represent what US was prior to 2016 election.

        • acde

          Her religious beliefs include that a woman shall cleave unto her husband and be subject to him. I know, as I grew up in the same denomination she belongs to.

      • Chucktech

        Good christian, Trump rimming women.

      • Nowhereman

        A lot of them don’t think that women should be allowed to vote. I mean this is 2017, right?

      • bzrd

        they used to be called bird brains but it’s been proven that crows and ravens are much smarter than many humans

    • Adam King

      She’s rich enough to buy any rights she happens to want.

      • David Walker

        Besides, she’s not in college, so why should she care?

    • Dazzer

      Thatcher actively kept women out of her Cabinet. She hated other women.

    • bambinoitaliano

      Milo? Peter Thiel? Caitlyn Jenner? LCR? Ian Reisner? Mati Weiderpass? David Clarke? Ben Carson? Clarence Thomas? Omarosa? There are something very wrong in every community. It’s call greed. These individuals are not in it to benefit humanity. They are there to hoard as much as they can regardless of the trail of collateral damages they left behind.

      • Nowhereman

        Caitlyn finally shut up about it.

        • bambinoitaliano

          For how long?

  • bkmn

    Betsy Devoid rammed through the new rules with zero public hearings, which is counter to established guidelines for making such major changes. Give her hell kids.

    • Todd20036

      Aren’t all kids “hell kids”?

      • doninkansas

        I am told if you catch them early and raise them right they make good pets, almost as good as wolverines and Komodo dragons.

  • Ragnar Lothbrok

    She needs to resign. Period.

    • Adam King

      And take the entire destructive “cabinet” with her.

      • David Walker

        And the “you may praise me now” fucking moron in the white house.

  • fastlanestranger

    She’s like a non-joke, opposite end of the spectrum, idiot Betty Bowers.

  • PickyPeckersaurus
    • Tawreos

      I am sure she has carried a bible to show how devout she is, probably never opened it, but she carried it.

      • Chucktech

        Bible book, bank book, checkbook, there are other books, I’m sure…

      • Dagoril

        The one with the hidden liquor flask compartment?

  • Princess Lardass

    “guidance allows schools to use a higher standard of evidence for reviewing complaints than the previous rules allowed.”

    How about using a higher standard for an Education Secretary…

  • Rebecca Gardner

    Wait until she makes Christian “Science” books the national standard. Yes, this is an actual Christstain Homeskoolin’ textbook.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a44b82b8bf67937e20ebac8dc49b1e4fa594b58bb506f9b44fba68316509a541.jpg

    • boatboy_srq

      OMEFFSM.

      • Rebecca Gardner

        What I find funniest about that page is the first paragraph reads, “No one has ever observed it or heard it or felt it.” Then the page ends with a BuyBull quote about Thunder. Ya know thunder, that electricity that everyone can see, hear, and feel.

        SMFH!

        • Snarkaholic

          No one has ever felt it? What about receiving an electric shock (from any number of sources)?

          • Michael White

            Quit being so nasty, you are confusing them with facts.

          • boatboy_srq

            Demons.

          • yes b’y
          • m_lp_ql_m

            Silly! That’s not electricity, that’s Psalm 77:18.

          • Rebecca Gardner

            …and thunder isn’t electricity, it’s God Farts.

          • Snarkaholic

            Ha-ha!

          • Adam King

            It’s the Holy Spirit!!

          • Lizard

            I’d invite them to ride in my car. I love it, but it electrocutes me every time I touch the frame in the winter. It’ll convince them.

          • Snarkaholic

            Hey…their hair can’t look any worse than it already does, so go for it!

        • boatboy_srq

          Apparently that Franklin guy didn’t see nuffin’ either.

          • m_lp_ql_m

            Franklin? Wasn’t he the guy that invented the hundred-dollar bill?

          • Rebecca Gardner

            No, Franklin created the Franklin Mint where you buy all the cheesy shitty plates and other useless crap that adorns double-wides everywhere.

          • David Walker

            I thought a Franklin mint was what you find on your pillow in one of the fucking moron’s hotels.

        • boatboy_srq

          I used to wonder how Barton got away with “writing” and publishing such obvious horsesh!t. But if this is the standard that’s set, well…

          • David Walker

            You should try a creationism textbook sometime. The mind wobbles.

          • boatboy_srq

            There’s an entire chapter devoted to how Satan dispersed fossils in the Earth to mislead the faithful, right?

          • David Walker

            Carbon dating don’t mean shit compared to the holy word.

        • Chucktech

          The “author” of that laughable bullshit should be forced to stick his tongue in a light socket. “Feel that, you dim-bulb christian? That’s electricity!”

    • Adam King

      Baby Jesus smiles when you lie to children.

    • Rebecca Gardner

      Oh hey, let’s not forget all about the moon too. From the same textbook.
      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e2e1036ae24a19c3437fb2eafef57dd524174e2a83fbccfc40e64a5dca03ace7.jpg

      • Lizard

        And let’s not even get into what they teach in ACE “schools.”

      • Chucktech

        Jesus.Fucking.Christ.

        • Lizard

          Really, it’s just a logical extension of “Were you there?”

      • The_Wretched

        I could define “bird” as a tuber that grows in the ground and I’d still be misspelling potatoe.

      • David Walker

        “If you have faith the size of a mustard seed, then all things are possible. If you have any doubt, the whole house of cards is threatened. Thus, the moon IS made of cheese.” Cardashians 5:22

      • boatboy_srq

        Talk about not answering the question.

        Or understanding scientific method. But that’s to be expected.

      • jerry

        What’s astounding is this isn’t a christian home-school textbook. This is from an actual (supposed) university…Bob Jones U. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5bde4b7ac7aac0f26bb274c92b031c9b217b234d60991e2c78da38802a9cfebe.jpg

      • Nowhereman

        My stomach lurched reading that. Why do christians want their kids to be stupid?

        • ETownCanuck

          Control

    • Treant

      I had the grand fun of “forced reviewing” of such a textbook for my ex-boss’-boss, who was a Quiverfull. The thing was dreadful.

      I was pissed enough at that point not to hold back.

      • Dazzer

        WTG 🙂

    • DoctorDJ

      “How does it fucking work…?”

    • Nowhereman

      “Who has seen the wind?
      Neither you nor I.
      But when the trees bow down their heads
      The wind is passing by.”

      Or more recently:
      “The tide goes in, the tide goes out. You can’t explain that!”

      Looks like we’ll be building spaceships out of oatmeal and mud and straw. Oh wait–we won’t need spaceships, will we? God and baby Jesus will take us to the heavens with the rapture thing.

    • bzrd

      everything’s a mystery, that’s why they need a sky daddy

  • TheGrandWazoo2

    I noticed the key words:
    Betsy DeVos scrapped federal rules that were created under President Barack Obama

    • Steverino

      Of course.

    • David Walker

      You think the fucking moron can do everything by itself? That’s what vice presidents do in corporations and cabinet members do in this god-forsaken administration.

    • Bluto

      Of course. That is all this regime does; destroy, dismantle, dissolve & disenfranchise.

  • another_steve

    Any school official who meets with this monster should feel shame. DeVos should be shunned and not accorded the dignity of official meetings with school administrators.

    I’ve been pleased to see that some community organizations have physically blocked her entrance into schools she’s gone to visit.

  • Bluto
  • Ken M

    Someone seriously needs to slap that smile off her face.

  • Skokieguy [Larry]

    So will Betsy’s family start a PAC to collect donations to help pay for her legal defense? Maybe she can sell hats?

    • The_Wretched

      5.4 billion USD net worth in 2017 for “DeVos”.

      • David Walker

        So, yes?

    • jerry

      No. This will be paid by federal gov’t, just like all the other suits this regime has caused.

  • pablo

    I don’t like her either, but all she did in this case was rescind the Dear Colleague letter that threatened schools with defunding unless they used the lowest standard of proof when adjudicating sexual assault cases. That letter from 2011 resulted in due process being denied the accused. Colleges are still free to use the lowest standard of proof if they choose, but they’re not being threatened by the government if they don’t.

    • The_Wretched

      Political messages matter. The message here is clear – go easier on potential rapists.

      • pablo

        I read it as “kangaroo courts are no longer encouraged.” Due process is one of the most important rights we have.

        • The_Wretched

          Ribbit

          • m_lp_ql_m

            More like “Polly wanna cracker.”

        • David L. Caster

          Due process was not in jeopardy. Failure to take notice was.

          • pablo

            Read some of the cases and tell me due process isn’t in jeopardy.

          • David L. Caster

            Quote the specific text of the rule you find offensive to due process.

          • pablo

            It tells colleges to use the lowest possible standard of proof, a preponderance of evidence, in sexual assault cases (though not in less serious matters such as cheating and noise violations). The letter required universities to allow accusers to appeal not-guilty findings, a form of double jeopardy. It further told schools to accelerate their adjudications, with a recommended 60-day limit. And, perhaps most important, OCR strongly discouraged cross-examination of accusers, given the procedures that most universities employed.-Washington Post

          • Mark_in_MN

            Double jeopardy relates to criminal proceedings. These are not criminal proceedings, or substitutes for them. The rest may be subject to debate about the relative merits, but none of them actually prevent due process from occurring, which is about the careful weighing of information. And, remember, as this is not a criminal proceeding or a substitution for one, the other party also has rights that need to be weighed in the balance of how these things proceed.

          • David L. Caster

            First and foremost, colleges and universities are not courts and their findings are not “legal” in the sense that they can convict people of a crime. They can choose to expel and ban students and report criminal activity and that is the extent of their authority. It is not in their best interests to bungle an investigation into a potential crime and they are responsible for protecting the students in their charge—victims, accused, and even the innocent wrongly accused.

            Due process applies in the setting of the criminal justice system where a crime is alleged or has been committed and charged. If the institution in question suspects or has a reasonable suspicion that a crime has been committed, they have a duty under the law to report it to the authorities. The legal system must then sort out the matter based on admissible evidence.

    • Rebecca Gardner

      Spoken with obvious male privilege. Thank you for not understanding the situation.
      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/6ce680af5ef32996d4d223038d142b1abc045ec2a60facc5fb5bc031f719b8b3.jpg

      • pablo

        Women can be falsely accused as well. Due process is important.

      • boatboy_srq

        My university had a 2/1 women/men ratio. Even with that population-specific incentive, it took not merely a rape, not merely a gang-rape of a fraternity little sister in the frat house whose investigation was impeded by campus security until physical evidence was impossible to obtain, but one of four such incidents involving the same fraternity on four separate campuses in three states and all in less than a month’s time, to get the administration to act. Accepting reduced standards of proof, when proof is so easily disposed of and the machinery of justice slow to act and skewed against the victim, is hardly a bad thing.

        • Lizard

          And rape is difficult to prosecute under the best of circumstances.

          There’s a documentary on campus rape called “The Hunting Ground” that tells the genuinely inspiring story of two UNC students, both rape victims, who went cross-country after the school told them to shut their yaps. It was incredible what some of these women were told and how pervasive the silencing of victims was.

    • JustDucky

      “What Rights Do I Have in a Due Process Hearing?

      All long-term suspensions and expulsions must be evaluated in a formal hearing. During this hearing, the student has the right to:

      -Know what specific rules were violated
      -Have the decision regarding the suspension/expulsion decided by an impartial three person panel
      -Bring evidence and witnesses on the student’s behalf
      -Bring legal counsel
      -Have the hearing be closed to the public to protect the privacy of the student”

      https://www.legalmatch.com/law-library/article/due-process-and-school-suspension-or-expulsion.html

      So which of these Constitutionally guaranteed rights do you think President Obama denied these students? President Obama who taught Constitutional Law. (Where do you teach Constitutional Law, btw?)

      • pablo

        Students are routinely denied information, and legal representation. Read the cases. Read Laura Kipnis’ book Unwanted Advances.

        • The_Wretched

          Talk to women on campus for their stories and listen to how it went.

        • JustDucky

          If that is true, it has literally nothing to do with colleges using the standard of proof for civil adjudication rather than the standard of proof for criminal adjudication.

    • TuuxKabin
  • Chucktech

    Let’s hope that Ms. DeVos’s tenure is arduous and fraught with roadblocks, fierce resistance and litigation. May you fare poorly, Sec. DeVos.

    • Snarkaholic

      And may all the impending lawsuits fcuk her in the wallet…hard.

      • Chucktech

        Pretty big wallet to fuck…

        • Rebecca Gardner

          Then it’s time for a gang bang.

        • Snarkaholic

          Don’t worry, the wealthier they are, the more they feel the pain of every dollar they lose!

  • shellback
    • boatboy_srq

      Yep.

      #NotPatriotic

    • joeyj1220

      Here on this blog we’ve often talked about Pharma Bro Martin S. having such a punchable face. I often find DeVos has one as well. That smirky fake smile she carries at all times is like nails on a chalk board

      • Mikey

        She has the look of someone who has absolutely NO idea where she is, what she’s doing, why she’s there, but trying to hide it.
        This is what Clueless looks like after a few facelifts and Botox injections.

      • bzrd

        I like to imagine a banana cream pie in her face every day

  • TuuxKabin
  • boobert

    The democrats are not sitting around doing nothing. This administration is being exposed and slowed down at every opportunity .

    • David Walker

      Let’s not forget the journalists who are actually doing their jobs.

      • doninkansas

        Even so, not as many as there SHOULD be, dammit!

  • Lazycrockett
  • yes b’y

    she’s holding in a fart in that pic, isn’t she?

    • Lazycrockett

      She’s got enough money she can fart wherever she wants.

  • Dazzer

    O/T: I know it’s been whole days since there’s been a story about Trump pissing off allies, so I’ll just park this here for those of you with withdrawal symptoms.

    Just for background, Prime Minister Theresa May is in Brussels pleading with the rest of the EU for Britain’s financial life, so Trump reminding the EU who the UK’s closest ally is these days was a nice touch.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/oct/20/trump-mistakenly-links-uk-rise-with-spread-of-islamic-terror

  • safari
    • Treant

      She rocks that outfit. He’s just jealous that he scores zero on the fabulous chart.

      • Lazycrockett

        She wears the cowboy hats to honor her deceased grandmother.

        • Mikey

          He wears the cowboy hats to honor his diseased ego.

    • JWC

      Why? Cuz she has a prettier hat than your or that she is a DEM and wears red?

    • greenmanTN

      So it comes down to a common complaint from the Trump administration, “It’s not white enough!” (The hat, allegedly.)

    • safari

      While we’re at it: here’s the speech Kelly lied about
      https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/921396982819803136

  • Blake J Butler
    • TuuxKabin

      Because they know what it’s like.

  • JWC

    Does anyone else find it strange that members of the Trump cabinet and Trump himself seem to have most of their policies tied up in court battles

    • Dazzer

      Ummmm…… no.

      Are we supposed to?

  • Ragnar Lothbrok
    • safari

      Every aspect of this story is tragic.

    • jimbo65

      He probably didn’t sign up for being abandoned on the battlefield.

    • Dazzer

      Jesus Christ!

      If this story gains traction, it explains why Trump has been in full squirrel-pointing mode all day.

    • Karl Dubhe

      If the place is renamed Bengazi, maybe the Republicans will investigate it.

      Otherwise, there’s no way in hell they’re going to be wanting to talk about that.

    • Halou

      I’d like to know if the non-military PMC that was called in to do the evac was in any way connected to the brother of the US Ed-yu-kay-shun Secretary.

  • Dagoril

    Great news. This bitch needs to have her policies slapped down left and right. Hopefully some scandal will force her to resign in disgrace soon.

  • Mikey

    DeVos: “but 10% of the population agree with me! that’s nearly 100%!”

    • edrex

      she learned math in a charter school.

  • RaygunsGoZap

    Betsy and her family are neck deep in Jared’s Russian server-micro targeting treason. Keep digging, Betsy, and maybe you’ll escape justice like your brother.