John Kelly Confirms Trump’s Words To Gold Star Family After Trump Denounced Reports As “Lies” [VIDEO]

CNN reports:

White House chief of staff John Kelly, in an extraordinary and at times emotional statement Thursday, said he advised President Donald Trump on what to say before he called the families of the four fallen soldiers who died during an ambush in Niger. Kelly said from the White House briefing room that he advised Trump to offer similar words that Gen. Joseph Dunford offered to Kelly when his son was killed in Afghanistan.

“He was doing exactly what he wanted to do when he was killed. He knew what he was getting into by joining that 1%. He knew what the possibilities were because we were at war,” Kelly said, channeling Dunford’s words to him upon the death of Kelly’s son. “And when he died he was surrounded by the best men on this earth, his friends. That’s what the President tried to say to the four families the other day.”

  • safari

    I don’t appreciate being told when I should be outraged, Kelly.

    • John30013

      I think Kelly fucked up here. It’s one thing for one general to say those words to another general: both are military and those words are appropriate in that context. However, those same words are not appropriate when speaking to a civilian–particularly a grieving spouse or parent.

      Trump shouldn’t have lied about it, though. He should have said he was given bad advice about what to say to the families.

      • Todd20036

        I suspect Trump was supposed to comment about how elite this soldier was, and how he asked to defend his country no matter the cost.
        THAT might have been taken well.
        But to simply, callously say that this is what he signed up for? That’s like blaming the soldier for his own death

        • Elston

          or like Puerto Rico signed up to be devastated

          • ColdCountry

            Well, it IS right smack on the hurricane route. They could have put it elsewhere, yeah? After all, it’s a BIG ocean.

          • Elston

            Location, location, location. /s

        • Mike__in_Houston

          It sounds like The Screaming Cheeto took what Kelly suggested and did the only thing he was capable of. He left out the words that would have softened the sentiments and just spewed out the basic idea, undoubtedly in his inimitable style, completely devoid of anything approaching empathy. No wonder she was hurt and offended.

          • JW Swift

            He obviously didn’t have a Teleprompter handy.

          • David Walker

            He doesn’t need no stinkin’ Teleprompter. He has the best words.

          • ETownCanuck

            Precisely.

          • marshlc

            Yup. Most likely also didn’t really understand the basic idea.

          • -M-

            Exactly, just regurgitated broken bits of what Kelly told him without any understanding of the intended sentiment or the situational context.

        • Lumpy Gaga

          RWNJ cheerleaders have been shouting “Military service is voluntary!!” since W’s excellent adventure.

          It’s part of their DNA now.

      • Adam Schmidt

        Being honest, part of it is the delivery and context. Hearing that full quote from Kelly, I don’t think it was entirely out of line, particularly “He was doing exactly what he wanted to do when he was killed.” But, I also fully believe that Trump could take that statement and just by delivery make it truly offensive.

        • Adam Schmidt

          I’ll reply to myself rather than edit… looking more at what Kelly’s saying, I think he gave Trump that entire piece to say. And if Trump said the entire piece, it would have been ok. But I’m wiling to believe that Trump forgot half of it and just went with the parts he remembered. Thus why Kelly said “That’s what the President tried to say to the four families the other day.”

          • charemor

            Why is it that every god damned thing that Trump says has to be “explained” by one of his staff?

          • Adam Schmidt

            And that’s the thing… Kelly didn’t say that’s what Trump said. He said that’s what Trump was trying to say. I didn’t get the feeling that Kelly was in the room with Trump when Trump said whatever he said.

          • thatotherjean

            Because Trump is inarticulate, possibly demented, and not very bright to begin with. He screws up a lot, and depends on his staff to make his blunders go away.

          • Uncle Mark

            I’m guessing that’s exactly what happened, and now the Fucking Moron is expecting Kelly to bail him out and blaming him for using his words. The fact that the Dotard ‘N Chief couldn’t even remember the name of the serviceman didn’t help…and you just know that he forgot much of what Kelly told him to say.

            The tragic thing is that so much of this awfulness could be minimized if only the shitgibbon could own up and apologize for his gaff…offering additional ways of making amends. Americans have proven to be very forgiving & understandng of those seeking forgiveness. The Screaming Cheeto’s biggest failing is an ego that will NOT allow him to accept blame. Instead he doubles-down on his mistakes every damned time…often making it somehow the fault of the victim, which only exacerbates and complicates the problem…leaving more people hurt and angrier than before.

          • JP

            That’s what narcissist do. I was with one for years. Everything was my fault.

      • Sporkfighter

        If it had been my place, I would have said “Your son took on a dangerous job with his eyes open. He spent every day risking his life for something bigger than himself. He isn’t a hero because of the way he died; he’s a hero because of the way he lived.”

        • TexasBoy

          Too many big words for Trump.

        • John30013

          But you have a brain and a heart. Unlike the Cheeto-in-chief.

        • Xiao Ai: The Social Gadfly

          That’s too many words for Cheeto. He’d have been off script by, “your son”,…

          • Prost Seattle

            If it were me, I would have….

            That’s how the marmalade Mussolini should have started it, then he’d be sure to speak the truth.

        • Willys41

          I would’ve said something like, “You son made a terrible sacrifice and we should all be thankful . . . “

      • Jamie_Johnson

        Saying Trump shouldn’t lie is like saying Trump shouldn’t breathe. Regardless, there is far, far more to this story that remains unexplained. If only we had a Congress that would investigate the deaths of four soldiers ambushed by Islamic terrorists under suspicious circumstances… oh wait, that’s only when the Democrats are in charge.

        • David Walker

          I’d be in favor of 45 not breathing.

          • BJORN RAGNVALDR

            I prefer 45* (*illegitimate).

          • Xiao Ai: The Social Gadfly

            I’d prefer using a 45.

        • Prost Seattle

          “Saying Trump shouldn’t lie is like saying Trump shouldn’t breathe. ”

          Why not both? One precludes the other.

        • Eddie Besketti

          you’re right – he should stop breathing.

      • Miji

        And I think there is even a way that you can express the same sentiment to a civilian, but it is all about the tone and the nuance of how you express it and we all know that Trump just does not have that skill set. Compassion and empathy are just not there.

      • David Walker

        And it’s not like this particular “commander-in-chief” knows shit about anything to do with military. I agree, John, that it’s one thing for one general to say this as solace to another general; when it comes from a fucking moron, otoh, it sounds like bullshit offered by a fucking moron.

      • Steven B

        Army commission veteran here. I agree 100%. Kelly was wrong to suggest those sentiments to Trump. Especially since Trump then took what Kelly said and fucked it up some more. So they’re 0 for 2 on that.

      • ETownCanuck

        Nor are those words appropriate to be spoon fed to someone who lacks the required eloquence to even manage to repeat them verbatim.

      • ColdCountry

        It could have been conveyed appropriately, but Kelly should have know that Dump would screw it up.

      • lymis

        I agree. General to general, or even veteran to veteran, that sort of comment might well work, especially if (I have no way of knowing), Kelly knew Gen Dunford personally.

        Coming from a civilian with no military service to a grieving widow, it just sounds cold.

        A decent person could have navigated the sentiment by saying something along the lines of “His willingness to put himself in harm’s way to protect all of us here at home is something we all can hold onto as a sign of his greatness, and something none of us will ever forget. It can’t bring him back, but we all honor his memory and his sacrifice.”

        You know damn well Trump listened to Kelly and shortened it to what he could remember. His mind is limited to what fits in a tweet. Kelly should have known better than to coach him on something longer than two sentences.

      • Gerry Fisher

        this

      • GayOldLady

        It was especially insensitive to say those things to a 24 year old pregnant woman with two children who just lost her husband. Trump is a buffoon

      • marshlc

        I think a person with normal human emotions and empathy, and reasonable facility with the language, could have said this and made the underlying idea – that their loved one died doing something he believed in, and that dying was a chance he was willing to take – clear and palatable.

        Where Kelly fucked up was in forgetting that we’re talking about Trump here. No normal human connection possible, and a vocal style and vocabulary of a seven year old.

      • Eddie Besketti

        you would think a president would know what to say in a case like this – that the man at the top had to be coached and still fucked it up…. my dear god!

        • John30013

          A normal person who has a modicum of empathy and intelligence would have been able to handle it. But Trump has neither.

    • Judas Peckerwood

      Kelly and every other person in the Trump administration are collaborators. Period.

    • greenmanTN

      Really? My family was all about the free exchange of ideas.

      “If I want your opinion I’ll slap it out of you.” 😁

      • FAEN

        Depends on where the slapping occurs 😏

    • Just Noh

      and recalling the “good-old days” when women and religion were respected. maga bullshit. yeah women were peachy and religions all peacefully co-existed. infuriating

      • zhera

        Why the F did he bring up women and religion?

        • Just Noh

          he was listing things that “used to be sacred” but aren’t now…leading to how appalling “that woman” was to listen in on trump’s call.

          • Just Noh

            and “life,” “life” used to be sacred.
            it was sickening

          • Just Noh

            “You know, when I was a kid growing up, a lot of things were sacred in our country,” he said. “Women were sacred and looked upon with great honor. That’s obviously not the case anymore as we’ve seen from recent cases. Life, the dignity of life was sacred. That’s gone. Religion. That seems to be gone as well. Gold star families, I think that left in the convention over the summer. But I just thought the selfless devotion that brings a man or woman to die on the battlefield, I just thought that that might be sacred.”

          • scottrose
          • Lumpy Gaga

            Glad I missed it. Thanks for the update?

      • JackFknTwist

        Ah yes, the good old days. ………now just please ask those “women who were respected” do they want those days back ?

        What a load of b ull s hit from this ar se liking defeatist now political hack.
        What a pitiable performance from a once respected leader.

    • zhera

      1. Does Kelly really expect Donnie to be able to convey that message the same way it was conveyed to Kelly? Have the two not met?

      2. Far as I know, only one family was given the disrespect and centempt from Donnie. And what a coincidence it is that the family in question was the only black one! What are the odds??!? /s

      3. Has Kelly said anything about whether or not he was contacted by Obama when his own son was KIA?

    • Tatonka

      Lately I’m just outraged all the fucking time. The reasons change, but the feeling never does.

    • Randy503

      Oh please — this whole Kelly statement is an after the fact cover up. Kelly said no such thing to trump,but now that the facts are out, Kelly made up this statement to make it appear like he was trying to give Trump words of comfort.

      NFW any real president say to a grieving mother: “He was doing exactly what he wanted to do when he was killed. He knew what he was getting into by joining that 1%. He knew what the possibilities were because we were at war.” Even if said the most sympathetic way, it still comes out callous. EVERY soldier knows he could be killed — no one needs to hammer that home at the funeral. You say you are deeply sorry for your loss, he died valiantly and honorably defending his country, and the country appreciates the heavy sacrifice he made. Our deepest sympathies to you.

      That’s all you need to say.

      • lymis

        You know, I actually believe Kelly. It makes some sense of the otherwise idiotic-even-for-Trump statement that people should ask Kelly whether Obama ever called him. Because it opens the door for Kelly to say, “This is what I was told when I was called, and I advised Trump to say the same thing” – when of course, he didn’t actually manage to say anything remotely like it, and it was horribly inappropriate to say to a pregnant widow on the way to meet her husband’s body.

        • Cattleya1

          While Potus Pig was on his way to his golf course.

        • scottrose

          Kelly is a despicable piece of crap for covering up for Toxic Donald here, just as he was despicable piece of crap for pointing at a ceremonial sword Toxic Donald had been given and saying “You can use that on the press, sir.”

          If our military generals don’t respect freedom of the press, what the hell are they fighting for?

          Certainly not the U.S. Constitution.

    • scottrose
  • Kelly Lape

    That’s a sharp sword the General is falling on.

    • shellback

      I hope it’s rusty.

      • barracks9

        Good Afternoon, SB – I trust all is well!

    • SFnomad

      Kelly knew what he was getting himself into when he took the job.

      • Joe in PA

        FTW!

        • LesbianTippingHabits

          ??

          • barracks9

            For The Win

          • Joe in PA

            Thanks! Waves hi!

          • barracks9

            Hello!!

          • Gerry Fisher

            wooooooooooooooooooooooof!

          • FAEN

            Hey hot man. Good to see you!

          • GayOldLady

            I thought it meant “fuck the world”.

          • Well, given who we’re talking about that would work also.

          • Gerry Fisher

            Context is everything.

          • Lumpy Gaga

            Fuck the Widow!

      • thatotherjean

        I’m sure he did. I’m also sure he’s gritting his teeth and hanging on to the end of his rope for dear life to convince himself that he needs to stay in it, for the good of the free world. Can you imagine doing your best to contain the damage Trump causes just by opening his mouth?

        • scottrose

          Kelly’s a stupid asshole.

          Anybody who believes that Tillerson, McMaster, Mattis and Kelly are ‘good guys’ who will save us from evil lunatic Trump is also stupid, if not necessarily an asshole.

          • thatotherjean

            If they’re willing to attempt to restrain Trump’s worst impulses, they are more valuable than not, whether or not they are assholes.

    • boatboy_srq
    • charemor

      Well, lets hope he falls on it soon and pulls Trump down with him.

    • Steven B

      Is it? Because, the way I see it, Kelly confirmed that Trump was publicly lying when he claimed that Rep Wilson was making the story up and went on to say that he had proof of her lie.

  • Smokey

    Pilate asked him, “What is ‘truth’?”

    • Tom Furgas

      And washed his hands.

      • Smokey

        If only we could wash our hands of this nightmare administration.

  • Lizard

    If Kelly is here condescending to the masses…who the fuck is watching over the manbaby?!

    • Tom Furgas

      Maybe Gen. Kelly gave him a Twitter-rattle to keep him occupied.

  • YeOldePickyPeckereth
  • Jean-Marc in Canada
    • safari

      Is this a new form of planking? One for the modern era?

      • OdieDenCO

        blow job practice?

        • Todd20036

          You know, if I were on top of him….

  • carrot festival
  • bkmn

    I wonder what info Trump has on him.

  • SFnomad

    So Kelly is falling on his sword for tRump … well, he knew what he was getting himself into when he took the job.

  • Ragnar Lothbrok
    • Gustav2

      “wires tapped” part deux

    • carrot festival

      Damn microwave ovens.

    • boatboy_srq

      But of course all phone conversations are private (between you, the other party, FBI and NSA), and speakerphones are custom hardware that few people have, so if someone you did NOT call heard anything s/he had to be eavesdropping.

      Sheesh.

    • Buford

      Also, Eugene Robinson finally stated the obvious on MSNBC just now… namely, that when it comes to communication, what you said is not nearly as important as what they audience heard. In this case, the speakerphone audience all heard Trump being insensitive and disrespectful, so that is the only assessment that matters.

      If TrumpCo were not small, petty, angry jerks, they would apologize and move forward instead of trying to ‘win’ this argument by proving that this Gold Star family and their state representative are liars (!?!?).

  • YeOldePickyPeckereth
    • bkmn

      And plant garlic…just got mine done. Took 10 minutes to separate the cloves and three to plant them all.

      • YeOldePickyPeckereth

        I’ve just let mine go wild over the last few years. It’s now everywhere in the garden, which is fine by me. 🙂

      • Opinion Sousaphones

        We will be doing that this week.

      • greenmanTN

        Is fall when you do that? I’ve never grown it, though I use a lot of it.

        • bkmn

          Yup, even when I lived in MN, you planted it in fall and harvested it mid- to late-summer

          • greenmanTN

            Just drop a clove in the ground?

          • bkmn

            Buy seed garlic, not grocery store garlic that has been treated with an anti-sprouting agent.

      • Adam King
        • Steverino

          A garlic a day keeps Rudy Giuliani away!

          • FAEN

            LMAO!!!

      • OdieDenCO

        just harvested mine. my mud room is now a unique aroma therapy room.

      • Lumpy Gaga

        Smell your fingers.

    • ColdCountry

      Today I finished piling the fire wood in the barn, emptied the planters and put them away, closed the ventilation “doors” to the crawlspace under the house, buttoned up the bulkhead door, lugged the big fan out of the cellar where it’s been running 24/7 to dry things out, tidied and swept the deck, and just for the fun of it, gave the dog a bath. I’m now enjoying some hot chocolate, BUT, I would have made time to impeach Dump if I’d been able.

    • thatotherjean

      Me, too.

  • Treant

    #ITMFA

    But honestly, I thought the straight-shooting bullshit excuse was one of Dumpy’s selling points. Now he’s backing off from admitting to what he said.

  • MikeBx2

    Trump clearly has the words “fabricated” and “verbatim” mixed up.
    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/920611770775064576

    • Tom Furgas

      Of course Mr. Trump likes to play his cards close to his chest and won’t let us see the “proof” that he says he has. Sad!

  • Ken M

    Makes one wonder…what else is Trump being told how/when and why to do, by his staff.

    • thatotherjean

      Just because he’s told what to say doesn’t mean that’s what he says, unfortunately. Life would be a lot less complicated if it were. Remember Kelly’s face at the UN while Trump was speaking?

  • Ragnar Lothbrok

    Wonder what Kelly or Sarah would have answered to this ?

    https://twitter.com/funder/status/921043154295455744

    • safari

      When Donald said he gave him self a 10 on Puerto Rico it was because he multiplies.

      • Opinion Sousaphones

        You can multiply zero by any number, but you will never get to 10. He just lies and lies and lies.

      • paganguy

        Yeah, Tweedledum and Tweedledumber are proof of that. Shame that couldn’t have been prevented.

    • Lizard

      Drumpf had the power to help and did nothing.

      This is genocide.

      • Steverino

        Similar to Reagan and the AIDS crisis during his administration.

      • Lumpy Gaga

        It’s worse than simple negligence. Try this:

        Drumpf had the life preserver and wouldn’t let anybody use it to solve that problem in the middle of the big water.

  • Michael R
  • TexasBoy

    So wait, Gen. Kelly, do you not understand that a parent who is IN the military will understand those words differently than a non-Military parent? Someone who is in the military will understand the phrasing much differently because they, themselves, are in the military, facing (or have faced) the same situations than a civilian…and a mother/grandmother. Common sense and decency is not strong in this administration.

  • LesbianTippingHabits


    It is right and just that the relevant Member of Congress support a new Gold Star family in their time of need, whether previously acquainted or not.

    At least this Member of Congress personally knew a family of an enlisted servicemember (or junior officer), those most at risk in combat. Not common.

    I greatly respect General (ret.) Kelly, but I also confirm that the family has every right to invite their Member of Congress to their Hero’s Homecoming [when this POTUS phone call apparently took place], and that it is quite appropriate for the Member to attend, or send a representative. Nobody “listened in.”

    It’s the right thing to do for a family that has lost a loved one in the service of our nation. Especially since Congress has yet to update the 2001 Authorization.

    This has nothing to do with politics. Nothing.

  • joe ho

    So much for the fiction that Kelly is protecting the country from Trump. He’s now in on the take. I hope Mueller isn’t in on it, too.

    • Todd20036

      That would be the ultimate.
      I still don’t even trust Comey. He’s the final reason Trump is in the WH. Hope he’s proud of himself.

    • Gerry Fisher

      He’s not protecting the country from being hurt by Trump. He’s protecting the country from coming undone this year by Trump; he’s slowing down the damage, which, for now, is as good as it gets.

      • joe ho

        I disagree. He’s trying to mask the damage and he’s enabling Trump. That actually makes it worse.

  • Piernudo15

    Kelly just gave up his honor to defend Trump. Its obvious he’s loyal to Trump, not the country. Sad.

    • Ken M

      The tweet praising him is on the way, I’m sure.

  • gaycuckhubby

    Kelly also seemed to blame the Khans for ruining the “sacredness” of Gold Star families.
    Trump destroys the reputation of yet another person. When will people learn? NOTHING good will come of working for him

    • Tread

      Kelly did that destroying all himself. He’s a reprehensible fuck.

  • Ninja0980

    Sorry, Gen. Kelly but you and others don’t get to use your dead son or others who have given their lives for this country as shields to avoid being called out.

    • Tread

      But they have done it since the age of Bush. They always use the bodies of dead soldiers to question other people’s patriotism. It’s their reprehensible M.O.

  • Talisman

    Lying liar lies badly.

  • teedofftaxpayer

    Kelly may have told him what to say, but that doesn’t mean he actually said those words the way the were spoken to him.

  • Todd20036

    Trump fucked up. ANd he fucks up everyone who works for him, including those who thing Trump is their friend.
    I’ve no sympathy for anyone in that regime. Even the ones who think their job is to control the manbaby.
    Trump is the textbook reason impeachment is a thing in this country

  • BobSF_94117

    “That’s what the President tried to say to the four families the other day.”

    I suspected this all along. It’s a fairly common sentiment among soldiers. It can also be delivered badly, completely bungling the meaning.

    Gosh, I wonder what dunce would do that…

    • Gustav2

      George Will said yesterday the president only has a passing relationship with the English language. He said he has never heard the president utter a sentence that wasn’t a mess.

      • Lars Littlefield

        Or that had both a subject and verb.

        • Gustav2

          That is why we all believe Trump messed up the call.

        • Steverino

          He only cares about colons and contractions if the periods get in the way.

      • JWC

        He never reads books maybe he can’t read

  • Rex

    With advisors like this, who needs enemies?

  • Lawerence Collins

    Fcuk!!!!!!! Now he’s making excuses for this toxic 🍊🤡💩??? https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/582c730693fb892bb99ce5e28a59b52f7d457ad958802f58c259294a97418526.jpg

  • YeOldePickyPeckereth

    OT: Can’t take any more of the madness of the orange dingleberry and the trumpturds.
    My pears are coming in hard and heavy and it’s a beautiful, beautiful autumn day. I’m going picking and will make a huge pear cobbler for dessert tonite.
    Stay fierce and safe out there. XO

  • gaycuckhubby

    I really don’t understand it. Trump is one of the most odious unlikable reprehensible people. How do so many seemingly intelligent people fall into his Cult?

    • robindaybird

      Because it lets them air their ugly feelings out in the open

    • Ken M

      Check’s in the mail?

      • gaycuckhubby

        I don’t think so. He’s a cheapskate

    • Natty Enquirer

      Because they are odious, unlikeable, reprehensible, and intelligent.

      • Lumpy Gaga

        ^^THIS^^.

        Like gamblers and chronic debtors, they think this is “the deal” that’s gonna pull em out of their lifelong troubles; they will somehow survive and prosper even if the civilization around them crumbles.

        People like that…. should be harder to find.

    • MBear

      Hubris?

    • Lumpy Gaga

      Debt?

    • Lumpy Gaga

      The late night phone calls from Boris and Natasha?

  • Tawreos

    He took the words that someone told him, soldier to soldier and thought that that might have the same impact on the civilian family member that it had on him. Civilians look at the world differently than a soldier does and the same words that made so much sense to him would come across cold and harsh to people with a different mindset and view of the world.

    • sfjohn

      THIS!!

    • Johnny Wyeknot

      All about context–and delivery.

    • Paul

      Maybe if 45 wasn’t so brain dead and remembered the whole quote that Kelly gave him “He was doing exactly what he wanted to do when he was killed. He knew what he was getting into by joining that 1%. He knew what the possibilities were because we were at war,” it might have come off a little more sympathetic. But that is not what a widow wants to hear on her way to pick up her dead husband. As Johnny Wyeknot said below..context and delivery.

      • BlindBill

        45 delivered the message like a 3 year old in a pre-school play ….kinda repeating words from memory with little understanding of the meaning of each word, and no understanding of context of his part …. He screws it up, but his staff are so proud of his effort.

      • Lumpy Gaga

        Yup. Save it (even if correctly delivered) for the ceremony. This is a phone call.

  • TexasBoy
  • Do Something Nice

    I’m stunned that someone working for Trump is also a sociopath.

  • Johnny Wyeknot

    Oy vey

  • Gigi

    Please remember and repeat after me: It’s NEVER 45’s fault. Never ever. Never.

    • Ken M

      Welcome to the “benefits” of having a businessman, instead of a politician, running the country.

  • FAEN

    I didn’t listen to all of it-I just couldn’t-but what I did hear left me angry and disgusted. The hypocrisy for one did my mind in.

    They have no shame whatsoever. NONE!

  • Natty Enquirer

    Another implausible lie, this time from Kelly. The tell was his forced emotionalism and constant hiding behind flag-draped coffins.

    • Phillip in L.A.

      ikr–you’d think a four-star general could do this shit!

  • Stuart Wyman-Cahall

    So now Mr. Kelly is going to get to work on finding out what happened to these soldiers, right? Right?!

    • Harveyrabbit

      Just as soon as the BENGHAAAZI! investigations are done.

    • Adam King

      They killed themselves out of loyalty to Trump, just so he could show how great he was when he called their families.

  • another_steve

    It’s so horrid to be an American today.

    Anybody living in a sane and civilized nation: Would you like to adopt me and my family? I’m a once-twink who’s now subject to frequent nighttime urination. My husband is a hunk who likes fairy boys like me. Our Maine Coon will bite your genitals off, given the chance.

    May we move in with you?

    • Tawreos

      If you leave the country you may not get a shot at Jared.

      • another_steve

        Jared will be a bonus for anyone who takes us in.

        By that time I will have deprogrammed him and he’ll serve solely as a sex puppy.

        • ByronK

          I’d be all like, “Get that thing out of my house!! He either stays in the yard or we’re taking him to a shelter!”

      • Lumpy Gaga

        Jared will live in exile before taking that pretty (horrible) face to prison.

    • JWC

      No, definetly not . Now is not the time to abandon your country because of who is destroying it. Its time for a once twink and hunk fairy boi lover and your tresticle clawing Maine coon to stand your ground,It is time all of you stopped whinning and confronted the issue. Remeber it was not the Military that gave you https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/370fb66a6badd7a5f542d48ecf1acc680e614e73047ebef3ffdc6488a71a2534.jpg a victory at Stonewall

    • Phillip in L.A.

      Hell, no! Then again, I still live in America (for the time being).

  • Dreaming Vertebrate

    This is just like when Tony Perkins told Trump to quote from Corinthians II to burnish his credentials with the fundie crowd. And of course, Trump screwed that up too. He’s a toxic mess, and mangles or poisons everything he touches.

  • HZ81

    The disgraces just keep coming.

  • lol “*Tried* to say…”

    • MikeBx2

      “what the f-ing moron was trying to say…”

      • Lumpy Gaga

        “The two things the fucking moron was trying to say….”

  • DesertSun59

    Why on Earth is this crew covering for the worst sociopath POTUS in history?

    • geoffalnutt

      Money or “kompromat” – or both.

  • HappyDance904

    Drumpf lied…in REAL NEWS….

  • GayOldLady

    And Kelly stating that “religion used to be sacred” and ” Women used to be sacred” was telling. All I want to know is WHAT decade was that? I’m in my 70’s and I don’t remember a time when “women” were treated as if they were “sacred” and I’m older than Kelly.

    I’m sorry he lost his son in combat in a war that should have never happened. I’m sorry that Donald Trump is a nincompoop who didn’t know how to take the advice of Kelly and speak with compassion and comfort. I’m sorry that we live in a world where our children and grandchildren go off to a senseless war everyday while the majority of American’s don’t give a big goddamn because it’s not happening to them. But to undermine the feelings of the family of Sgt La David Johnson in defense of Donald Trump is disgusting.

    And it was pretty obvious in his speech that he longs for the days when women were seen and not heard when he criticized a female Member of Congress for telling the truth, but refused to condemn Donald J Trump for threatening a dying War Hero, a man who spent 5 1/2 years being tortured by the the North Vietnamese.

    It’s unbelievable how immoral this administration is and what lows it will stoop to in the effort to avoid blame instead of simply saying, “I’m sorry if the family misunderstood my comments. What they understood was not what I intended, I apologize.”

    • Natty Enquirer

      You know, the Madonna part of Madonna/Whore. This guy is such a relic, you’d think the part had been written for George C. Scott. He’s a poster child for reich-wing nostalgia and butthurt.

    • stuckinthewoods

      One of the other departed things Kelly says used to be “sacred” is Gold Star families, “I think that left in the convention over the summer.” Would Kelly like to name someone who prominently attacked a Gold Star family?

      • GayOldLady

        Oh hell no, he would never do that!

      • GayOldLady

        He’s never spoken out on Trump’s assaults on McCain or on the Khan family because he’s basically an ass kisser. I’m glad we got to see that side of him because we were actually believing he might save us from Trump at some point. Instead he gave Trump cover so that he go on saying and doing whatever despicable things he wants.

        And I suppose everyone has forgotten what the GOP and the GOP Convention in 2004 did to John Kerry who won the purple heart.

        • stuckinthewoods

          Right. Then Kelly went on about his family’s experience thereby managing to turn this into something about his own son, his family’s experience and not Johnson. He diverted the narrative away from Trump and gave him cover. I wouldn’t be surprised if people listening to Kelly’s sobs believed that Trump had been sooo wonderful when Kelly’s son died…and that Obama!, he did nothing.

    • Lumpy Gaga

      And have the ovaries to say it yourself, Donald.

    • Gerry Fisher

      Terrific writing, GOL. Very, very well said.

      I think what’s very telling about what you’re saying is that Kelly really wants to be perceived as “a good guy,” and, given how articulately you’ve described what it is he’s doing, he’s clearly “one of the bad guys” by aligning himself with them, enabling them, making excuses for them, and covering for them.

      • bzrd

        as someone said recently, creating the malignant normal

    • Ross

      Fabulous. Thank you.

  • Gustav2

    If the White House had released the already prepared statement about the 4 dead in Niger, none of this BS would have happened. This all started when the press asked about it and Trump tried to blame other presidents.

    Now who stopped the statement from being released and why?

    • Ken M

      Trump will blame his staff. The staff will blame the military. Info lost or forgotten.

    • Adam King

      The statement blamed it all on Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

    • LesbianTippingHabits


      This is the real question. A true President with a competent staff would release an appropriately worded statement within a couple of days max.

      A Presidential phone call to the Gold Star family would most appropriately take place after a decent interval, and would be properly coordinated with and scheduled when convenient to the family.

      Again, if a true President had a competent staff. Sad!

  • Ken M

    “I explained to the President when, and how to write the letters and make the phone calls.” So, no twitter, no Presidential contact? https://www.olybop.fr/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/meilleurs-trump-parodies-fun-twitter-12.jpg

  • BlindBill

    But 45 also said he makes these calls to ALL families when their loved one dies in service to the country …. unlike Obama and other presidents … The hardest part of his job …. Bla bla blob … Yet he is still being coached on what to say?
    He lies so he can pretend he is better than Obama, he lies about calling the all families, he lies about what he said, he threatens the people who expose his mistakes …. What a small small person. #FuckingMoron

  • yes b’y

    Steve Miller wrote that. didn’t he?

  • DanimalChgo

    I mean, there IS such a thing as a tone, context, and phrasing in which “he knew what he signed up for” is an acceptable thing to say in this context. Trump is not capable of saying anything in that tone, because he has no empathy, does not even know what empathy is.

    • Natty Enquirer

      Exactly. “He knew the danger, he knew what he signed up for, and he was such a patriot and hero that he charged ahead with the greatest courage.” Light years from anything Trump could summon. And don’t forget the clincher: “I guess it hurts anyway.”

    • lymis

      There is not only a proper tone for that, but also a proper TIME. And that time, regardless of tone, is NOT when a pregnant widow is n the car on the way to meet her husband’s body coming home.

  • eyefidelity

    As Superchicken would say, “You knew the job was dangerous when you took it.”

    • David Walker

      “He’s everywhere! He’s everywhere!” We aired that during my on-air shift. Looked forward to it daily.

      • eyefidelity

        I think that The Donald needs to lay off the Super Sauce….

  • Buford

    As I posted elsewhere, it’s interesting that Kelly felt the need to take the podium today to express his outrage after being “stunned” and ‘heart-broken” by Rep Wilson’s comments, but he felt no such outrage or emotion in response to Trump’s Charlottesville comments.

    Kelly is part of this problem.

    • stuckinthewoods

      He is also “stunned” and “broken hearted” by the Congresswoman listening in to the conversation. Rep. Wilson was only able to overhear it because she was physically present by the widow’s side, a level of concern far surpassing his tactless phone call made only after shaming him.

    • Gerry Fisher

      Yep

  • TexasBoy
    • Jay George

      Carlyle is wonderful actor.

  • JT

    Kelly is a fuckwad. That’s such a stupid and inappropriate thing to say. Instead of praising the fallen soldier, the only thing that comes near to praise is what is said about “other soldiers”. Stupid, insensitive and inappropriate.

  • Hank
  • David Walker

    Perhaps the good general could explain this one next: Manafort “had to get to Trump.” For free. Now why would that be, general?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2v8yGN76i28

  • Chris Gardner

    As a veteran myself, I could see how those words would be powerfully comforting when coming from a military person who has been through the struggles of war but when coming from a draft-dodging guy who can’t seem to empathize with people who are suffering grief and loss, it comes off as offensive.

    • Phillip in L.A.

      Thank you for your service, Chris Gardner! And thank you for posting your take on this, also!

  • http://bipartisanreport.com/2017/10/18/trump-offers-proof-of-phone-call-to-widow-gets-caught-in-even-bigger-lie-details/
    Trump Offers Proof Of Phone Call To Widow, Gets Caught In Even Bigger Lie (DETAILS)
    Carissa House-Dunphy – October 18, 2017
    Whenever President Trump is caught in a blatant, easily disproven lie, he always doubles down even harder and his responses become even uglier. There have been no deviations from that pattern even when those who fact-check him are the grieving members of gold star families.

    When Trump is caught in a lie, the web usually only gets stickier. During the White House press briefing on Wednesday, the White House told a few major lies, one with an explanation that is simply not verifiable, and other huge and reprehensible lie that was immediately fact-checked and proven false.

    Trump was reported by not only Sen. Frederica Wilson (D-FL) as having made a disgustingly disrespectful phone call to a fallen soldier’s pregnant widow, but by the soldier’s mother, as well. Trump has continued to bite back at the Democratic representative without acknowledging that his denials also mean a gold star mother is lying about him, as well.

    Democrat Congresswoman totally fabricated what I said to the wife of a soldier who died in action (and I have proof). Sad!

    — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 18, 2017
    After the soldier’s mother spoke up, the White House seemed to confirm that Trump’s words had been as previously reported but that he had been “misunderstood.” Sarah Huckabee Sanders was forced to cover Trump’s cruel accusations during her daily press briefing, saying that Trump had been “perfectly respectful” to the soldier’s family just hours after the fallen soldier’s mother said that he hadn’t and that she and her family felt “disrespected.”

    Instead of just backing away, The White House also offered proof on Tuesday afternoon that Sen. Wilson, whose claim was confirmed by the gold star mother, is a liar. His proof is not exactly irrefutable or able to be confirmed without question. During the press briefing, Huckabee Sanders told reporters that:

    ‘There were several people in the room from the administration that were on the call, including the chief of staff, Gen. John Kelly.’
    While there is no proof that anyone else was in on the phone call, there definitely is proof that Huckabee Sanders crafted another huge lie regarding the president’s response during the briefing. When asked why Trump had waited so long to respond to the four fallen soldiers in Niger, while Trump was busy tweeting about the NFL and Hillary Clinton, Huckabee Sanders described a long process of being informed by the Dept. of Defense to confirm the names and families of dead soldiers. The president who happily retweets Breitbart and Fox News waits for official confirmation before tweeting things, right?

    Now, even that is debunked. According to POLITICO:

    ‘Staffers at the National Security Council drafted and circulated a statement of condolence for President Donald Trump to make almost immediately after a deadly ambush of U.S. soldiers in Niger earlier this month.

    ‘But Trump never publicly issued the statement, and, some two weeks later, is now in hot water over his initial silence on the soldiers’ deaths and alleged controversial comments he made to a widow of one of the dead.

    ‘The draft statement, a copy of which was seen by POLITICO on Wednesday, was put together on Oct. 5.’
    The statement, therefore, was crafted just one day after the death of LaDavid Johnson and three other soldiers who died in Niger. There was no delay in informing the president.

    Is there anything this man won’t lie about?

    • boatboy_srq

      #NotPatriotic

  • charemor

    Ass kisser. With these statements, I have lost all respect for Kelly. As for his being “stunned” that Rep Wilson listened to the call, did he not pick up on the fact that they were in a car together and the call came over a speaker phone?

    • Hank

      Of course, we all heard that Rep. Wilson was a family friend AND present, when the call was made on a speaker phone. ONLY Herr Drumpf and Company will deny the TRUTH!!!

      • -M-

        ^^^ This!
        Kelly’s statements showed a total lack of integrity.

  • coram nobis

    His was not to reason why, it seems.

  • pardon me, but who exactly has Congress declared we are in a state of war with?

    • Adam Schmidt

      Terrorists. Thanks to the blanket War on Terror, every President since Bush Jr. has been using that thing to send troops wherever they want.

      • LesbianTippingHabits


        President Obama did ask the Republican-controlled Congress for an updated authorization – the current one was approved in 2001 – but Congress did nothing.

        Sad!

    • The_Wretched

      GWOT included all of US territory btw. When they disappeared Hamdan, he was on US soil.

  • ultragreen

    The young men who join the military often don’t know what they’ve gotten themselves involved in until it is too late. As a society, we take advantage of their naivety. Therefore, I question whether or not they fully understand what they are doing.

  • Lumpy Gaga

    “And when he died he was surrounded by the best men on this earth, his
    friends. That’s what the President tried to say to the four families the
    other day.”

    Yeah, excuse me? Sarah Huckakelly? Isn’t there the horrible little detail about whether he was left on the ground dead (or for dead?) by “his friends”?

    • Lazycrockett

      For 2 days.

  • Jay Mills

    I still do not understand how a man like Kelly can allow himself to be repeatedly humiliated and used by the A/h in chief, even using his son for propaganda purposes. Also, what the hell is going on in Niger, and why do we not know shit about this operation? Time for multiple congressional investigations (that will never happen). Fuck this fucking world we live in now.

    • Natty Enquirer

      Because he is so nostalgic for the good old days and outraged about the unbridled liberalism of the present that he is willing to whore himself out to a New York conman for the chance to make the world right again.

    • JWC

      I think History can prove out several times over that a general had better info than his commanding officer but knew better than to say so An uncomfortable situation than usually was short lived

    • The_Wretched

      The price to be near Donald is your dignity and humanity.

      • JAKvirginia

        And one helluva future book deal, eh?

  • Lumpy Gaga

    I’m guessing there’s tape. Where’s Rosemary Woods when you need her?

    • Natty Enquirer

      She’s having a gap year.

  • BobSF_94117

    Kelly is in no position to comment on the content of the actual call unless he was “listening in”.

  • bambinoitaliano

    So John Kelly is channeling Octavia Spencer in The Help serving shit gibbon’s pie to the Americans.

    • Lumpy Gaga

      “No, No! This is Miss America’s SPECIAL pie!”

  • With this extra bit of information, I am getting the feeling that Trump most likely *intended* to say what Kelly had advised, but flubbed it..

    • Lumpy Gaga

      As Mr. Burns might say, “It’s working, Smithers.”

  • Rene Salinas

    I that Kelly was a decent man. Nope.

  • Tempus Fuggit

    “Two senior Republican officials said Chief of Staff John Kelly is
    miserable in his job and is remaining out of a sense of duty to keep
    Trump from making some sort of disastrous decision. Today, speculation
    about Kelly’s future increased after Politico reported that Kelly’s deputy Kirstjen Nielsen is likely to be named Homeland Security Secretary—the theory among some Republicans is that Kelly wanted to give her a soft landing before his
    departure.”

    –from Trump unraveling, seething, says “I hate everyone in the White House!”

  • Ken M
    • easygoingmister

      *Thumbs up emoji things*

  • BostonBud

    “That’s what the President tried to say to the four families the other day”
    Everyone knows that idiot 45 couldn’t even get those words right and probably tried to speak off the cuff and screwed up again.

  • JustDucky

    When I was a kid growing up, a lot of things were sacred in our country. Women were sacred
    I don’t even wait. And when you’re a star, they let you do it, you can do anything… grab them by the pussy
    and looked upon with great honor.
    Fat. Pig. Dog. Slob. Disgusting aminal. When I come home and dinner’s not ready, I go through the roof. You have to treat ’em like shit.
    That’s obviously not the case any more as we see from recent cases. Life. The dignity of life was sacred.
    I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn’t lose voters.
    That’s gone. Religion.
    A total and complete shutdown of Muslims. If I had these [Hitler] speeches, and I am not saying that I do, I would never read them.
    That seems to be gone as well. Gold Star families.
    If you look at his wife, she was standing there. She had nothing to say. She probably — maybe she wasn’t allowed to have anything to say. You tell me.
    I think that left in the convention over the summer. I just thought the selfless devotion that brings a man or woman to die on the battle field… I just thought that that might be sacred.
    He knew what he signed up for.

    • The_Wretched

      hmm, i think you may have found where Kelly should have sent his ire.

    • David Milley

      Beautifully done, point and counterpoint!

  • EdA

    In one sense, it’s not my place to say. But I think that there is a difference between when General Dunford says something to another general on the loss of his son and when a scummy draft-dodger who considers catching VD to have been his own personal Vietnam, who attacks Gold Star families and their dead children, who attacks Prisoners of War, and so on and grotesquely and so on, says the same thing to a civilian wife.

  • aagold76 .

    people need to start recording every word when they are around Trump.

    • JAKvirginia

      Trump, bringing back the art of shorthand.

  • The_Wretched

    “the President tried to say”

    Has Donny the Unfit managed to follow any script so far? I mean, when he does just read, he reads like words are a new invention and are strange and confusing. Anyone who has paid any attention knew he’d go off script. Clearly, Kelly was upset that Trump was called out for it.

  • BobSF_94117

    People aren’t paying attention to what Kelly is saying. He’s hitting every GOP talking point and criticizing the Khan family to boot.

    • Lumpy Gaga

      Ah, the golden oldies. Can’t do a show without ’em.

  • drbrentzenobia

    Sounds like Trump heard what Kelly said, but framed it in terms of litigation. “He knew what he signed up for” became, to Trump, just another way of saying “It’s your own fault for not reading the fine print, dummy!”

  • Gerry Fisher

    I think that’s the kind of message that would have been well received by a warrior (Kelly) from another warrior (Dunford). I think it’s brain dead and empathy-less to think the same message would have worked for a grieving mom who probably didn’t serve. And what do you want to bet that tRump messed up the delivery, which required walking a rhetorical fine line?

    • trouble94114

      Agreed.

    • -M-

      And then lied about it and tried to smear and intimidate the family friend (a congresswoman) who called him out.

  • Halou

    If I knew I was getting a call from the precedent, I’d have a tape recorder ready and if so much as one word was out of order I would leak the lot to the press.

    • Lumpy Gaga

      I’d have the press over for a picnic and put up a PA.

  • netxtown

    i kinda like the way mr. kelley stuck donnie’s knife in donnie’s gut.

  • DumbHairyApe

    It says mountains of stuff about the lack of any empathy and compassion in Trump’s soul if he has to be advised about what to say to a grieving pregnant woman who lost her military husband. Of course he wouldn’t have any inkling of what to say- and if instructed what to say, he would likely botch it up focusing on only what his pathetically morally poor and vacant, narcisistic soul understands. That’s what he did here I think.

    • JAKvirginia

      Y’know, I’ve learned there are things you say in a tweet, things you say in an email, things you say in a letter, things you say in a call, and things you say face-to-face. Expressing any kind of condolence in this situation should have been face-to-face.

  • thatotherjean

    What Gen. Kelly suggested and what Trump actually said are vastly different. A few of the words are the same, but what Gen. Dunford said to Gen. Kelly when his son died was compassionate and reassuring; what Trump said during his phone call was completely tone deaf, as usual. Then, when the blowback came, Trump lied about what he had said. Painfully typical of the man.

  • vtdave

    I have not seen any comment on the real question here…WTF are we doing with troops in Niger? Can we ever just stop the insane urge to meddle in the politics and troubles in other countries? Is there no place where we are not busily making enemies that will come back and bite future generations of Amerikans in the a**?

  • MT YVR

    And right here is the crux of my problem with 45.

    He can’t, not won’t but can’t, see the difference.

    This is a man who understands people react one way to his words but he doesn’t understand because to him it’s all the same. “He knew what he was getting into” has no more or less tone to his ear than “He did what he believed was right, even knowing the possibilities”. They are interchangeable. And like every other person I’ve ever met in my life who does this thinks that any upset (mild to outrage) is a “problem” with the person listening to him.

    It’s never him. It’s never what he said. Nuance, tone, word choice, none of it matters to him. And never will. He genuinely believes he’s a good guy. And doesn’t see how only caring as part of the job or in front of a camera, not caring enough to get the words right… not only make him simply look bad but after long enough? Make people believe it.

    Because it’s a faultline in him. What other people care about is just not important. At all. That he is constantly interpreting what others say to him and responding randomly doesn’t at all cross his mind because, again. There is only him. His words. His thoughts. His intentions.

    I grew up with this shithead in my house. Different person but same fucking psychosis. And it’s an excuse writ in the sycophants who let him get away with it to the point of this now being an ingrained, bone deep “understanding” of how things work. Because he’s never been challenged. Never truly in a way that matters to him.

    • Steve Teeter

      I think you’ve nailed it.

    • thatotherjean

      My sympathies for having to live in the same house with someone like this. I can’t imagine how difficult that would be.

  • trouble94114

    As someone said earlier, what was said to General Kelly was probably not the best model to use when speaking to a non military next of kin. Totally appropriate in the case of two soldiers. Completely inappropriate between a draft dodger and a grieving wife and mother.

    One of the funny things about genuine compassion and empathy is that even when being poorly expressed by words, the intent and emotions being communicated, almost always come through.

  • Willys41

    So I guess it didn’t occur to anyone that the condolences you offer to a professional military officer might be a little different from what you say to a civilian and a mother, who, by the way, might be a member of a minority group which has a long history of being abused and terrorized by the white establishment.

    • JAKvirginia

      You are suggesting that this WH crowd actually think something through?

  • TexasBoy

    Attention all staff…cleanup on aisle Trump…again!

  • Daveed_WOW

    Jesus Henry Fucking Christ on a Stick. Dude. Have these people ever thought of simply saying nothing? Silence is an option. Silence is powerful. Silence is simple. Silence would be preferred. I mean I don’t mind Trump and Co. looking worse and worse every day, but this is my country. Fuck.

  • DesertSun59

    The entire world is witness to what a sociopath and a narcissist is doing to this nation. 45 won’t be happy until we are in completely social chaos.

  • Benny S.

    He’s lamenting about things that used to be sacred, but aren’t anymore, like women…religion…gold star families??? Golly, how odd that he’s not pointing the finger at his boss when making that claim.

    • Ewell Knévanneaux

      This is the beginning of the end for Kelley. Cheetoh will never forget being made to look like a fool, even when it’s his own damned fault.

  • DoctorDJ

    “Congratulations on being a Gold Star Family.”

    This POTUS is a worthless POS.

  • JCF

    Lawrence O’Donnell is tearing Kelly a new one right now (for all the racist, misogynist BULLSHIT he went into today, *after* noting that Drumpf used the same words, allegedly, that were told to him when his son died), and It.Is.GLORIOUS!!!!!!

  • Stubenville

    “That’s what the President tried to say to the four families the other day.”

    No, what did Cheetolini actually say. And did you hear the conversation yourself?

  • Mike
  • EqualityForAll

    My experience while serving in the military was this: we were told often enough to “Suck it up – this is what you signed up for, isn’t it?”

    That fully explains why Kelly’s defending what Trump said – because what Trump said to that gold star mother was only a repeat of what Kelly told him to say. They’re both scumbags.
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/bf10471de2e00010515f37a2edc70b3d63a1c6d1392ef7294d71686a1e98e8f7.jpg

  • Gianni

    Someone please let us know when Donnie presents the proof he claims he has that proves that the congresswoman is lying. This sounds a lot like that statement when Director Comey was questioned by one of the congressional investigating committees. “He better hope there are no tapes of that conversation,” said Donnie Trump. No one believed that see-thru threat and Donnie never did come up with any tapes. What a president – no shame, no conscience, no empathy, no sense of propriety, no self-control, NO BRAINS! I watched the clip of him at his WH meeting calling the congresswoman a liar and denying he ever said what he said. The first thing I noticed was his body posture – he arms were firmly crossed in a most defiant

    manner. I then watched Sean Hannity on FUX News and he showed the same clip and I immediately saw that Donnie’s image from chest down was completely blocked by some red and white banner across the bottom third of the screen. Hannity had the image doctored to make sure none in his nitwit audience saw that defiant and tight arm-crossed image. He knew that would make Donnie look like the liar he is. Also, when he repeated Donnie’s statement to the widow, Hannity changed the wording. Donnie was quoted as saying, “I GUESS it still really hurts.” Hannity changed it to, “I know it really, really hurts.” Changes the tone somewhat. No wonder FUX listeners have been shown to be the most poorly informed news audience. They never get the real news.

  • DN

    What a pathetic display.

  • DN

    I find the whole, “when I was growing up, some things were sacred,” and then he points to religion as something we no longer take as sacred. Fucking right, we don’t, and we never should have. And if Mr. Kelly has a problem with my blasphemy and contempt for religion, he can come arrest me.

  • leastyebejudged

    I cringed so hard I hurt my face

  • Ewell Knévanneaux

    What a disgrace John Kelly is, whoring the memory of his dead son in service of Donald Fuckin’ Trump, President Bone Spurs, Complainer in Chief.

    No, John Kelly, the military is not sacred. Nothing about the process of sending young men and women to kill or die, your son included, is sacred. It seems more pagan, like human sacrifice.

    But, John, you knew what you were sending your son to do when he enlisted; he signed up for it, so no time for tears now.

    Fuck you, John Kelly, and all those like you.

  • BEARY FLINTSTONE

    Well who’ is lying here? Trump said the other day said ‘I never said that what that congresswoman claims I said’. Then Kelly said I told him to say this? which is which?
    Kelly you have dishonored yourself and your son and to call the congresswoman…’THAT WOMAN’, SERIOUSLY? Get the Fuck out of here!

  • A. Trump was standing behind Kelly while Kelly was trying to explain trump.
    B. Trump STILL this morning is saying it is a lie, after Kelly’s whine last night.
    C. Kelly is lying when he said HE told trump what to say and how to say it. He’s just falling on the “knife” for his boss.
    D. I have now lost all respect for Kelly because he folded under trump’s pressure – and we were counting on him to keep trump in line.

  • Having to trot out General John Kelly to use his own loss to defend Trump is an even newer low. Disgraceful.
    Trumps careless, thoughtless talk has caused great suffering not
    only to Gold Star Families but to all Americans. During WWII we were
    warned careless, unguarded talk could lead to great suffering for a Gold
    Star Family, warning that “loose lips sink ships.” Let’s hope Trump’s
    own loose lips sink this Liar in Chiefs presidency. http://wp.me/p2qifI-470