REPORT: GOP Mississippi Sen. Thad Cochran Appears Frail And Disoriented, Loses Way In Senate Building

Politico reports:

Mississippi GOP Sen. Thad Cochran insists that he is not retiring from Congress, despite widespread speculation about the veteran lawmaker’s health and political future.

The 79-year-old Cochran appeared frail and at times disoriented during a brief hallway interview on Wednesday. He was unable to answer whether he would remain chairman of the Appropriations Committee, and at one point, needed a staffer to remind him where the Senate chamber is located.

“Don’t believe everything you hear,” Cochran said in a low voice when asked whether he planned to retire after 44 years in office. However, when queried over whether he would stay on as Appropriations chairman, Cochran seemed confused and just repeated the question. “As chairman of the Appropriations Committee?” Cochran asked.

When a reporter asked Cochran if McConnell had pressured him to return from sick leave to vote on the budget, Cochran replied, “It’s a beautiful day outside.”

Cochran then voted “yes” on an amendment after an aide repeatedly reminded him that he was a “no” vote. Cochran then changed his vote. There’s more at the link.

McConnell recently hailed Cochran in a Senate floor ceremony marking his 38th year in office, making him the 10th longest-serving US Senator.

  • Blake Mason

    Sad really.

  • Sam_Handwich

    i’m really not as concerned about Thad as i am with the fruitloopy Dotard with the nuke codes

  • edrex

    he’ll just be replaced by another reconstructionist.

    • Dramphooey

      That worthless State will probably end up sending scofflaw Roy Moore and his criminal son to the Senate.

      • robindaybird

        They’re Alabama, this is Mississippi

        • Joe in PA

          There’s a difference?

          (teasing, my southern friends!)

          • Dramphooey

            I honestly wonder if that was what was going through my brain. I just read Mississippi as Alabama.

          • robindaybird

            it’s funnier to spell Mississippi out loud,

        • Dramphooey

          And I am done casting stones at this guy for being out of it. Good night!

    • JCF

      Yeah, someone w/ identical positions…but 30 years younger. Blurgh.

  • Sam_Handwich

    3-0 yanks
    bottom of 5th

  • Pollos Hermanos

    We can’t bust heads like we used to. But we have our ways. One trick is to tell stories that don’t go anywhere. Like the time I caught the ferry to Shelbyville. I needed a new heel for m’shoe. So I decided to go to Morganville, which is what they called Shelbyville in those days. So I tied an onion to my belt, which was the style at the time. Now, to take the ferry cost a nickel, and in those days, nickels had pictures of bumblebees on ’em. “Gimme five bees for a quarter,” you’d say. Now where were we… oh yeah. The important thing was that I had an onion on my belt, which was the style at the time. I didn’t have any white onions, because of the war. The only thing you could get was those big yellow ones…

    • Paula

      I put fried eggs on the TV screen so I can see the wrinkles in gravity better.

    • Natty Enquirer

      MEDIC!

    • safari

      The podcast “Sleep with Me” uses this technique of story telling to help people fall asleep.

      • dagobarbz, fine Italian shoes

        Dianetics works better. Sleep in 20 pages, I guarantee!

    • peacfulseas inWA

      Dotard speak ?

    • Jason Saffir Zenobia
    • peacfulseas inWA

      Ron Perlman on AM Joy speaks Pres. Dotard Drumpf

      https://youtu.be/tHv0RExQsPQ?t=3m24s

      • Gretchen

        “…a president who can’t rub a noun and a verb together…”

        I am a retired Eng teacher, and this might be my favorite description of the pResident yet.

    • Gretchen

      My first boyfriend in high school talked that way. My dad described him as being able to “blow up an onion sack” became he was so full of hot air.

    • BJORN RAGNVALDR

      If you will monopolize the conversation this way, you’re invited to join me at my family’s Thanksgiving dinner.

  • Pip

    Guess he didn’t get his delivery Alzheimer’s drugs for this month.

    • EdmondWherever

      Pre-existing condition.

    • peacfulseas inWA

      Sadly I saw an interview with a pharmacist and they do have congress critters they dispense Alzheimer meds to. Of course they couldn’t name names due to hippa laws.

      • Danieruw

        Just use pseudonyms like “Cad Thochran”!

  • barrykyle415

    My thoughts and prayers to Sen. Cochran.

  • Lazycrockett

    This is the reason our government is so frail at the moment. Cochran isn’t the only one that seems half out of his head most of the time.

    • Tread

      I’m beginning to wonder if dementia is making our country horrible.

      • MBear

        *made

        And: yes

        See: Reagan

    • DaveInSF

      And the Dems are worried about DiFi?

  • Dramphooey

    If I had power at my command I must admit it would probably be hard to give up but it is ridiculous the old and sick just won’t retire. Are your families that horrible?

  • Henry Auvil

    Is this a metaphor for the entire GOP?

  • Sam_Handwich

    I posted a different Bobby Byrd video and deleted.

    this is the one i love most

    (was a speech in response to the NFL player who bet on dog fights)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtsI7KRe_zQ

  • JT

    REPORT: GOP Mississippi Sen. Thad Cochran Appears Frail And Disoriented, Loses Way In Senate Building

    He was most concerned because he didn’t know which way to put the sheet on.

    • MBear

      give him a white plastic bag, a big thick rubberband, and patient, single sentence instructions

  • Lazycrockett

    Samantha Bee isn’t on tonight cause of some stupid football game or something.

    • Sam_Handwich

      they don’t wear cups anymore so you can see their junk flying around their pants

      • Michael McReavy

        I don’t even think that could temp me to watch a football game.

        • Sam_Handwich

          it’s the only thing that keeps me interested when i’m forced to attend a football party….the nobly undulating cocks and balls as they charge about the field.

        • Chanse Paull

          It’s the ONLY thing that I can imagine making me watch a football game. Still not enough though.

          • canoebum

            Hell with all that! It preempts reruns of the Big Bang Theory. I need my Raj fix on a daily basis.

  • Cuberly Deux

    OT: So the evil furby, Chuck C. Johnson is spreading a conspiracy theory that the Sonoma wildfires were set by Mexican cartels as a way to get back at CA’s impending legalization. Yeah….Johnson is the same douche that went with Rohrabacher (sp?) to meet with Assange.

    Gotta keep stoking that anti-CA fervor & xenophobia…

    “Fact-checking website Snopes has already debunked one popular rumor: that the fires were “started by Mexican drug cartels in order to gain a strategic advantage over the legal marijuana industry.”

    http://www.sfgate.com/local/article/North-Bay-fires-cause-drug-cartels-theory-Sonoma-12288046.php

    • JoeMyGod

      Breitbart is claiming that the fires were set by an undocumented immigrant. The local sheriff is pretty pissed about that.

      • Cuberly Deux

        Sheesh….

        From what I’ve been hearing the investigation is still very much in process.

      • Tread

        Watch, it’ll be some conservative asshole getting back at all those libtard Californians.

    • Friday’s_cat

      I tried arguing with a poster over at Turning Point using facts from Snopes. Their reply was Snopes is a “Lefty” organization funded by George Soros. You can’t fix stupid.

      • Cuberly Deux

        They say the same re; Politifact, even though one of the founders of Politifact used to write for conservative publications.

  • Sam_Handwich

    I think the only options are that he retires or the senate votes to boot him. And i’m not sure what could happen otherwise. Could he end up in a nursing home for the remainder of his term, his seat left vacant until the next election?

    • Treant

      The Senate will not vote to boot him, it sets a very bad modern precedent. And it would require an impeachment, I’m thinking.

      Undoubtedly, they’re whispering in his ear. Unfortunately, he’s hard of hearing.

      • Sam_Handwich

        regardless of party or anything, it’s a weird ethical/legal position. it’s asking someone who’s not of sound mind to make a decision (resignation) that requires a sound mind.

        • Friday’s_cat

          I think it’s up to Mississippi, the state that sent him to Washington to recall him.

          • Sam_Handwich

            you can’t recall a senator. he’s only removed by the senate.

            same with the house

        • Treant

          Well, Republicans are, by definition, not of sound mind. 🙂

          But seriously, you’d have to prove that in court to have him declared incompetent. Courts really hate doing that. Or the Senate would have to impeach, which won’t happen because every aging Senator could see that being used against them.

          Really, if you look at every action by politicians as unenlightened and thoroughly selifish self-interest, you’re not that far off about 90% of the time.

          • Sam_Handwich

            so i guess next Dotard will start tweeting for him to resign/be impeached? because this really screws McConnell if he’s not going to be around

          • Treant

            I’m not sure Dotard wants to draw attention to himself and his own mental defects. In my experience, the mentally sliding absolutely do know it–they just don’t realize how far they’ve slid.

        • Tread

          That’s why the 25th exists. Unfortunately, it doesn’t let the populace have a say in the matter.

      • sfbob

        The process is different from impeachment and is specified by Article I, Section 5 of the Constitution. Per Wikipedia:

        “Each House [of Congress] may determine the Rules of its proceedings,
        punish its members for disorderly behavior, and, with the concurrence of
        two-thirds, expel a member.” The processes for expulsion differ somewhat between the House of Representatives and the Senate.

        • Treant

          So the bar is just as high and we might as well call it a “Wellness Impeachment.” 🙂 Like I said, it’ll never happen.

          • sfbob

            Well, that’s certainly true. Unfortunately I suppose, though in truth the bar should be kept high so expulsion can’t be used as a form of retaliation or some other kind of vendetta.

  • dukeofhurl

    Somebody should just remind him that he’s retiring.

    • safari

      Smart.

  • worstcultever

    Why god why? I don’t get it. He has no worries about anything. Why not go enjoy what’s left of his mind and life? Why this self-humiliation?

    (Then again, the same could be said of our “president”)

  • MikeBx2

    Cochran has a 100% NRA rating. A 100% Family Research Council rating. A 16% HRC rating (0% on marriage).

    • Treant

      Looking at his record, my only thought and prayer is, “Faster.”

      • barrykyle415

        Please be assured that I know my thoughts and prayers are just as useful(less) as yours. If folks that get mown down by machine guns are only entitled to thoughts and prayers, then that’s all this motherfucker is entitled to.

        • MBear

          If by “thoughts” you mean flatulence and by “prayers” you mean a stinky turd, I’d agree.

    • Danieruw

      How’d he get 16%? Hit the wrong voting button?

      • MikeBx2

        Ha! I was surprised at that too.

    • And they couldn’t rate his IQ because he can only read in King James English.

  • Friday’s_cat

    It’s sad when anyone loses their way due to an aging mind. Lets hope he can exit with the dignity republicans don’t deserve.

    • Lars Littlefield

      Watch Orrin Hatch the rare moments he appears on camera. Someone is always whispering in his ear before he answers questions.

    • MBear

      Too late

    • another_steve

      Well said. Were their party a compassionate one, his fellow Republican senators would have a long hard conversation with him.

      But his is a party of the heartless, and they’ll allow him to wander the halls aimlessly until he drops.

  • Treant

    OK, but since this is typical behavior for a Republican, who can be expected to blow in the wind depending on who paid him off that day, what am I supposed to take away from all this?

    🙂

    Besides, MS. They wouldn’t go Democrat, so I really can’t say I give a shit what happens to this guy.

    • MBear

      Candidate for the soylent green plant if i ran the world

      • Treant

        Ugh, old and stringy. I’m gonna recommend the compost bin.

        • bzrd

          sky burial, raptors and vultures would love him

  • Sam_Handwich

    this is special

    On June 13, 2005, the U.S. Senate formally apologized for its failure to
    enact a federal anti-lynching law in the early 20th century, “when it
    was most needed”. The resolution was passed on a voice vote with 80
    Senators cosponsoring. Cochran and fellow Mississippian Trent Lott were among the 20 Senators who did not join as cosponsors.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thad_Cochran#Anti-lynching_law

    • MikeBx2

      “When Strom Thurmond ran for president, we voted for him. We’re proud of it. And if the rest of the country had followed our lead, we wouldn’t have had all these problems over the years, either.” Trent Lott

      • anne marie in philly

        racist pigs!

  • Sam_Handwich

    Interesting that last week a story leaked about a DC pharmacy that delivers to members of congress,including Alzheimer meds .

    Can’t remember who published it, but it was tacky.

    • OliveYurdic
      • Sam_Handwich

        i honestly cannot believe a pharmacist would divulge that kind of information. and it could be criminal

        • OliveYurdic

          He didn’t name names. “At first it’s cool, and then you realize, I’m filling some drugs that are for some pretty serious health problems as well. And these are the people that are running the country,” Kim said, listing treatments for conditions like diabetes and Alzheimer’s.

          • Sam_Handwich

            If he were my pharmacist, i’d drop him like a hot potato

            you are welcome to your own judgements.

          • Ken M
          • Ken M

            Too much of anything is not good for you.

          • Treant

            Tacky. Diabetes doesn’t get in the way of “running the country,” and nor would early-stage Alzheimer’s being treated appropriately and monitored.

          • Sam_Handwich
          • Treant
          • Reality.Bites

            A couple of years ago my brother-in-law referred to it as “sugar” and I warned him he was on a slippery slope towards calling it “the diabeetus”

          • OliveYurdic

            Not so sure it would be “early-stage” if one is losing their way in a familiar building.

          • Treant

            Since we were discussing the pharmacist on the sub-thread, I wasn’t necessarily including Cochran in that group. In fact, the phrasing should make it apparent that I’m definitely not, which renders the above statement from you a strawman argument. Please insert valid argument to continue.

    • Tread

      I don’t think knowing that a pharmacy is providing Alzheimer’s medication to acting Congress people is tacky. This is vital information to know about the people making vital decisions for our country’s future.

      • Sam_Handwich

        and i supposed it could also have been a congress member’s spouse

        • Tread

          The quote below states that it’s for them. That was my takeaway. I’m not mad at the pharmacist for divulging that information.

          Remember the quest they went on to question Hillary’s viability as president?

  • OliveYurdic
  • Texndoc

    I don’t care (R) or (D) but the fact that you have a Senator with a malignant terminal brain tumor still serving proves that these people are outrageous. Any other professsion besides Pope and that would be immediate termination.

    • Sam_Handwich

      The only remedy aside from voluntary resignation is the senate voting to boot a member. Ain’t gonna happen.

      And my senator, Ted Kennedy, served with terminal brain cancer and he never lost my support.

    • RaygunsGoZap

      Wait. If I have a malignant brain tumor, I should be fired or quit? I don’t follow exactly. Generally, yes. But not quite exactly.

      • Texndoc

        A surgeon? A pilot? A malignant glioblastoma multiforme turns the brain to mush.

        • Treant

          Both require rapid reflexes, very fine motor control, and occasional unbelievably rapid-fire decision-making. That’s not true of my profession, nor of Senator.

        • Jefe5084

          There would be no noticeable degradation in clarity of thinking, logic, empathy, or common sense in these Rethuglikkans, cuz they don’t have any of that to begin with. They are warm-ish bodies. The got jobs where they don’t have to learn anything, study anything, know facts. They just spout out nonsensical shit they learned from their daddies or preacher redneck-racist back in the day.

          • Texndoc

            The fact the Senator from Illinois had a hemorrhagic stroke and continued to serve shows they just want a body with a pulse.

  • bkmn

    Trump’s mentor

  • Blake J Butler

    You have a congress consisting of a bunch of white, white or gray headed, elderly men, who are prone to having a ton of health problems and can’t deal with the load of the job, yet run for re-election because their party told them to.

    Not gonna be surprised, if these people start to drop like flies because some of them have been in office for so long, they should have carbon dating. Sometimes you need to quit, but these legislators won’t do it. It’s mostly a republican thing, because they want them to hang on as possible, without having to come up with replacements.

  • BeaverTales

    Still a better choice for Senate than Bama’s Roy Moore. Which is not saying much…

  • Tom Ato

    There’s a lot of that going around.

  • Blake J Butler
    • safari

      Reston is where the events of the Hot Zone took place. It had a monkey import facility in which a form of hemorrhagic fever was detected.

  • Blake J Butler
    • JCF

      Are we sure the facility won’t just open it to anyone, w/ or w/o tickets, if it remains empty close to the start time of the event? [that’s the one problem I see w/ this otherwise delicious plan]

      • BJORN RAGNVALDR

        If the venue is hosting only to prevent prolonged legal battle over free speech, yes, it can stand by its rules.

  • MikeBx2
    • Treant

      It will come to the same answer: “Never.” Senators don’t have individual opinions, and for as long as the party line is followed, they’re not terribly concerned about the health or happiness of the person in the seat.

      Yes, even vaunted Bernie. If he went, they’d simply have his CoS follow the Dem party line except for a mavericky “no” every now and again when it doesn’t matter.

      • Karl Dubhe

        If? At this point, I’m wondering about that man.

        • Treant

          Shh, me too. He made way too many unforced social policy gaffes for it to be entirely natural. I smell a low-key bigot showing his stripes due to senility.

  • dagobarbz, fine Italian shoes

    He and Trump can wander off together.

  • DaddyRay

    How sad – taking politics out of it, I know it can be very difficult to make the decision to retire as for many if feels like a death sentence. Unfortunately with occupations like Senator, the decision to stay in your job keeps you from spending time with your family and friends. I am reminded of the old saying “Nobody says on their deathbed – I wish I spent more time at the office”

    • djcoastermark

      I learned a while back, it is foolish to stay in a job when there is limited time left for yourself. Luckily, I left the daily grind to take care of myself and lived through it all. Still have problems, but I will be damned if I am not going to spend what little time I may have left not enjoying life, and with the ones I love. Might be part of the old gop’ers problem, they haven’t found a love of any sort.

  • JT
    • safari

      He doesn’t look waxed here.

      • Ross

        And praise the Lord for that.

    • Ken M

      And he’s the BIG 30!!! Congrats on making it 😉

      • DaddyRay

        The 30’s were my favorite.

        • Ross

          My life got SO much better after 40.

  • charemor

    Time to put him out to pasture.

    • Adam King

      Long, long past time.

  • David Kerlick

    Reminds me of an old MAD magazine cartoon showing a corpse being wheeled about the floor: “Senator Snort has only stiffened in his opposition to the civil rights movement”

  • So he’s not sick. He’s just got CRD. (Conservative-related Dementia)

    • JCF

      Truthfully, failure to stimulate your brain (oh, say, via READING A BOOK?) can accelerate cognitive decline. Ergo, CRD: sounds about right!

      • All those years of avoiding change and not using their imagination.

  • Ken M

    He can’t be “reminded by an aide” how to vote. They brought in Thurman on a gurney, but he was coherent.

    • Lazycrockett

      There has been a helluva lot of aides guiding senators and some house member on what they are suppose to be doing especially in these hearing that have been going on in the last year.

      • Ken M

        Should frequency make it OK? They’re not elected to have someone else remind them how they are supposed to be doing things, If they have indeed reached that point, there is NO shame in acknowledging it and retiring. An attitude of “well, we all do it form time to time,” doesn’t make it acceptable.

        • Lazycrockett

          I wasn’t approving of the actions.

          • Ken M

            Sorry if I came across strong. Not aimed at you. It’s one of the glitches in the system. People vote them in, but can’t vote them out mid term. Also, the ones who decide on term limits is them. I lived in DC for awhile. It just get’s under my skin from time to time how much these elected officials “get away with.” Sorry again.

    • DaveInSF

      Oh, there have been many instances where an aide lifted a senators hand to signal a vote where the solon was not able to say yeah or nay.

  • MikeBx2

    OT: Post season baseball. Yankees and Dodgers are now both within one win of another trip to the World Series. But I suspect the Astros and Cubs are not ready to give up quite yet. New York and Houston won’t meet again until Friday. L.A. and Chicago at Wrigley Field starting soon.

    • Sam_Handwich

      being a Red Sox fan, i’m automatically forced to “hate” the Yankees. and i genuinely hate Houston for taking us out earlier in the post season. and i don’t really give a rat’s ass about the Dodgers, other than they’ve had a highly respectable season. and i’ve never found myself bound by natl vs american league

      So my thoughts&prayers to the Cubs. lol

      • MikeBx2

        Yeah, and unfortunately the Cubs now have the steepest hill to climb. I’m a Giants fan so I’m forced to “hate” the Dodgers. If it’s a NY and LA Series, then I dunno.

        • DaveInSF

          Hating the Dodgers does not require “force”…

          • MikeBx2

            lol

        • Ninja0980

          IMO, the only question is will the Cubs be knocked out tonight or tomorrow?
          There isn’t going to be another 3-1 miracle like last year for them.

          • Sam_Handwich

            ya never know

          • MikeBx2

            I hope the Cubs win the next 2 at home. Then the Dodgers can wrap it up at home on Sat. 🙂

          • Ninja0980

            Only to see them suffer the same fate that they did in 77/78.

        • Sam_Handwich

          giants are my second favorite team.

          giants and astros on opposite trajectories the past few years :-/
          i shall never forget this hug

          https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/18a74360206e4833a28982fd3bd404c121c3b4f92f188a9155e96ce6e316c7f1.jpg

          • MikeBx2

            Oh, how I love that picture.

          • Sam_Handwich

            lol Madbum was like a caged tiger who was just released and poor Buster like a kitten who needed rescuing.

  • Treant

    OT: Another sole survivor of the near-frost (yeah, OK, with about 20,000 friends). October 18th, and the temperatures tonight won’t go much under 45. We have seven days left, minimum, before frost hits, making it more than two weeks late. Again this year.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ff14b93463a3b235d243344f0dba22370a5e98c8208306f7f39489b174755608.jpg

    • Sam_Handwich

      it’s weird here, south coast of Mass near the Cape. i hope it holds through Halloween because we attend a fun porch party every year.

      but i can’t recall a year i didn’t turn on the heat by now. and i haven’t yet this year

      • Treant

        I did kick it on one morning because it was 62 in my office. I can deal with cold, but that’s a little ridiculous.

        OK, I just checked my forecast. They changed it–the earliest possible frost is after November 1st, when the extended forecast ends.

        I may end up getting shots of November-blooming roses. I’ve only ever done that one year of my life.

      • djcoastermark

        It is going to be 90+ through the weekend here. A little break from the heat and humidity would be nice.

        • safari

          It’s actually quite pleasant up here. Temps between mid 40s and lower 70s for the next few days with dew points in the 40s or 30s.

          • fuzzybits

            Perfect weather. And here there were no clouds in the sky today,just blue.

          • djcoastermark

            Aah, otherwise known as the dead of winter around here.

      • 2guysnamedjoe

        The day after New Year’s, 2017, we picked jalapeño peppers from the plants on our deck here in NYC. In prior years, the plants would’ve been long-dead by then.

      • Adam King

        In Ohio, just turned on the furnace last week.

        • Sam_Handwich

          don’t be sending your cold air here!! 😛

          • Adam King

            Cool. I wish it were cold, I’d get the fireplace going.

          • safari

            I need to find a place with a fireplace.

          • Adam King

            It’s no longer considered environmentally correct to burn wood, but I’ll wait till I’m in the grave to give it up.

      • Rambie

        Yes, here in northern IL I hope the weather holds too. Been cold a few nights and I did hear the heater go off, I have it set to 62, once so far.

    • Ken M

      Never O/T 😉

    • JCF

      Currently have a pizza in the oven, covered w/ 2 kinds of home-grown peppers (plus fresh home-grown herbs). Edibles, not instagramables. 😉

      • Treant

        Wait a second, you can grow vegetables? Like, in your very own garden?

        Why didn’t somebody tell me this sooner!

        (Actually, I do grow one type of eggplant–but for ornamental purposes)

        • jerry

          I tried growing eggplant one year…you have to constantly keep aphids off the blooms (same insects that attack rose blooms). Not being a fan of using harsh chemicals on vegetable plants, I got one fruit out of four plants.

  • Lazycrockett

    All In is doing a bio of Stephen Miller.

    • gaycuckhubby

      That should be frightening!

    • greenmanTN

      “Stephen’s parents, Rosemary and Guy, moved to New York City almost a year before his birth…”

  • Talisman

    44 years! Think of all the good he could have done with his life…

  • safari

    Rachael begins with the Lincolns’ dead children. This should only get more chipper.

  • Pete Wascher

    time for mandatory retirement for politicians at 70 and term limits.

    • safari

      It’ll only transfer power to lobbiests.

      • -M-

        Require lobbyists to make their pitches to the whole Senate or House in public hearings.

    • 2guysnamedjoe

      Get the big money out of the electoral process, and we won’t need term limits.

      • fuzzybits

        Right on!

    • LesbianTippingHabits


      ‘Time for California Democrats to say Thank You to octogenarian DiFi.
      [Senator Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) who plans to run again in 2018.]

  • Ninja0980

    Yankees Win!

  • Silver Badger

    Only the good die young.

  • leastyebejudged

    He’s an indication that the process works, that democracy is a valid form of government, right ?

    Just like having a series of royal family candidates, over and over, right ?

    The USA is and always has been a banana republic.

  • safari

    As one of you fine people pointed out earlier today, Donald’s body language while he’s refuting what congresswoman Wilson said Donald told his wife is quite telling. Ignore the smirk. I just happened to catch one on him. But his shoulders, his arms — oh —
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/49054ec18e81d7be7203ec01b54e6e1c015b816ad812dbc971b098657f747fa5.png

  • Lazycrockett

    Rachel is taking no prisoners tonight.

    • safari

      Although I think that we’re learning how to create new circuits to process our president’s lack of ethics.

  • Adam King

    An ideal representative of the Republican Party.

    • MikeBx2

      Yep. The party of the disoriented and confused.

      • Sam_Handwich

        he beat back a tea potty nutbag in his GOP primary

        Great? No. But one less Ted Cruz normalized.

    • William

      Typical Fox viewer.

  • safari

    “It’s not just distraction, it’s diversion…”

    I like that. Thanks, Rachael.

  • MikeBx2
  • LesbianTippingHabits


    And octogenarian Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) plans to run again in 2018. Sad.

    • safari

      She’s got competition this time. To be honest, I don’t think she’s that bad.

      • worstcultever

        She’s shirley old AF – but seems on the ball mentalwise, has all kinds of seniority, and though has never been progressive enough, is certainly an anti-Dumpy bulwark. Then again, go Feinstein challenger guy. Maybe it’s time. May the best person win.

      • LesbianTippingHabits


        Thank you. I’m not a Californian, and I sincerely admire her.

        But I think it is time for her to move on as Senator Emerita.

    • Sam_Handwich

      Like Chuck Grassley did last year, who is the same age

      • LesbianTippingHabits


        And Iowans chose him, again. Their choice and their responsibility.

    • Natty Enquirer

      No one is forced to vote for her.

      • Ken M

        With her name, face, money, and the DNC’s money, and her track record, it’s rather difficult to run against her fairly. She would do better for the party to use her influence and get behind the new blood and help defeat the GOP opposition that way. Her whole “I can do more on the Hill” attitude is all well and good, but what happens next time when she’s in her 90s? Then she will concede she can do no more good? Enjoy your last years.

      • LesbianTippingHabits


        You are quite correct.

        Let’s just say that California Democrats will be making a fully informed choice.

    • SoCalGal20

      And she’s being primaried so we’ll see how that goes.

  • worstcultever

    Just dropped back in – scrolling & reading – safari comment just a bit downthread included a photo of Dumpy – and somehow the point has been reached where I cannot bear to even look at any image of him anymore – must instantly avert my eyes – I know I’ve said this before, but this time I mean it – just the endless sight of that awful face, all day every day, as if somebody wallpapered your bedroom with images of your abuser

    “It’s bad for ya” – George Carlin

    • Lazycrockett

      I mute him everytime he comes on the tv.

  • Lazycrockett

    Ugh this windows 10 “feature update” is taking forever.

    • safari

      I’d complain, but updating my mac takes like 40 minutes when a major/minor release is issued.

    • Sam_Handwich

      after about 4 hours, i deleted windows 10 and restored 7

      • I hate Windows 10. I should have done this with my main computer several months ago but I don’t want to screw up converting my old files over again. I had enough work getting them to work with Windows 10.

      • safari

        Can someone explain to me why Windows 10 has two types of control panel settings?

        • Silver Badger

          Because it’s evil.

        • Natty Enquirer

          Isn’t that leftover from the immensely stupid Jekyll-and-Hyde thing they started with 8?

          • safari

            But why hasn’t it been unified or removed?

          • Natty Enquirer

            Because they don’t want to lose the spoiled kids who only know big tiles and swiping.

        • Sam_Handwich

          the duplicated start menu really frosts my pickle

          • safari

            I should buy sweet pickles.

      • jimbo65

        I hated that windows 10 did away with the free games like solitaire, chess etc. Oh and I couldn’t take the layout of 10 and went back to 7 as well.

      • JCF

        If only I could (my computer came loaded w/ 10. Argh.)

        Except for the constant crashing the past couple of years—I miss XP!

  • Silver Badger

    Manditory retirement at 70 for all politicians at every level. In Colorado we have a saying about dying and getting out of the way of the next generation.

    • Girlgoon

      Lead follow or get the hell outta’ the way

    • Will take a Constitutional amendment to do so. Good luck with that.

      • Silver Badger

        We can amend the constitution to make people die and get out of the way? Governor Lamb would be pleased.

  • Girlgoon

    The entire GOP is frail and disoriented and has lost its way. !!

  • fuzzybits
    • Ross

      Horrifying.

      • And the only thing that is bugging and the White House about this is the possibility of another 300,000 people from Puerto Rico moving to Florida and voting against Trump in 2020. Believe me, they will vote against Trump in 2020. He probably doesn’t even realize they get to do this as American citizens.

      • Ken M

        Gov. Ricky is coming to town. I’d love to be a fly on that wall. I just hope he doesn’t get dragged into The Rose Garden to listen to Trump praise himself.

      • worstcultever

        They’re doing nothing with the GD enormous hospital ship even. If we had a president and functioning govt there would be military and copters and all kinds of shit all over that island. I have no words anymore for the depravity of what the U$ repuke/Russo govt has sunk to.

        • johncAtl

          All Trump’s supporters ever say (the ones that know Puerto Ricans are US citizens) is that Puerto Ricans pay no US income tax. That is true, as it is for other US territories where the residents are whiter. They do pay other federal taxes. And part of the taxes they pay to the government of PR do flow to Washington. And the good patriots of the right ignore how many Puerto Ricans serve in the US military.

  • ohbear1957

    On Rachel: KKKeebler Elf claims. “I am not part of a facade.” LOL

  • OT. Does anyone else see a striking resemblance between the dog bride and Camilla Parker Bowles? https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c4dc34bfc9ef782ce3c7eeb7a0ead4802456134b90a1a31918c77f79d2771f1b.jpg

    • safari

      I can’t say I’ve ingrained her image in my mind.

      • Look in my reply. You can see. Same taste in hairstyle and jewelry.

        • Natty Enquirer

          And the same expression.

      • fuzzybits

        They both have those hair flaps.

      • Natty Enquirer

        Tampax Rex.

      • Ross

        I think they both look great.

        It’s amazing that, after much ado and absurd social conventions (but the Prince MUST marry a virgin!), he and Camilla were able to get together at last. I applaud them both.

        Charles has done a lot of tremendous things with his surreal life, and has helped tens of thousands of people.

        He has also experienced the same kind of decades-long bashing that Hillary has.

    • Ross

      I find this really offensive.

  • fuzzybits
  • fuzzybits
  • andrew

    Just as there is a minimum age for Senate membership (30), there should also be a maximum age. I think that 65 is a good age for forced Senate retirement. We are a nation of 330,000,000 people. It’s not like we don’t have an available supply of middle aged qualified people.

    • safari

      The problem with the analogy is that it excludes experience as opposed to the lack thereof.

      • johncAtl

        There are drivers in Florida with 60 years of driving experience. Stay off the sidewalks if one of them is driving near you.

        And Louie Gohmert has been on the U.S. government payroll since 1978. That’s experience we can do without.

        The obvious answer to my comment is that experience in government matters. Trump had none and Hillary was probably the most qualified candidate in my lifetime.

        • 60? There are people on the road who have been driving for nearly 80 years in Florida. We have drivers who are well over 90 here. They are a danger and kill people.

          • djcoastermark

            Ah he77, drivers of any age in Florida, it’s like dogem cars all around the state, only with more dire consequences.

          • safari

            I had two people walk in front of my car today. One was a woman who just started walking across a 5-lane road without moving her head, only looking forward, in 45 mile an hour traffic without pausing in any way shape or form. The other was an undergraduate who faked running into traffic at a pedestrian crossing as I was approaching.

      • andrew

        There comes a time when the physical and mental disabilities of old age outweighs experience.

        • safari

          And a time to hand the baton to someone else. Now that lack of national figures to take over is a real problem.

    • Sam_Handwich

      younger people are not prohibited from challenging incumbents

      • andrew

        When Senators get entrenched in their positions, with all the perks and powers of incumbency, it is damn near impossible to successfully challenge them.

    • NZArtist

      See my comment below. Competency tests for over 65 year olds. Just like for those who want to continue driving a car.

    • Sam_Handwich

      what did 30 mean over two centuries ago? middle age

      • The average life expectancy in the USA in 1900 if you were a white male was 47, if you were black was 33. However, if you managed to make it to 65, you were expected to live 10 more years at any race. amd 85 4 more years at any race. Woman live a few years longer. https://www.elderweb.com/book/appendix/1900-2000-changes-life-expectancy-united-states/

        • safari

          Still, I always thought the distribution around the mean was bimodal: make it past early childhood and you’re golden.

          • That is of course if you were white. If you were black in 1900 and were not lynched, you were way ahead of the game.

    • Natty Enquirer

      Isn’t it really about ability to serve? We should be free to elect a young or old person as we see fit, ageist notions notwithstanding.

    • TimCA

      I’ll take a Dianne Feinstein over a Tom Cotton (I believe the youngest member of the Senate) hands down. I think she’s quite sharp, just as articulate (if not more so than Cotton) and certainly much more insightful, thoughtful and reasoned.

  • NZArtist

    To drive a car you need regular tests after age 65 to ensure you’re still competent.
    How about regular competency tests for people over 65 who want to drive a country?

  • greenmanTN
    • BJORN RAGNVALDR

      Thank you my edible twin. Nothing like The Carol Burnett Show before or since!
      Don’t forget, there will be a 40th anniversary show some time in December!

      • greenmanTN

        I didn’t know that! Thanks.

  • Hank

    It is IMPLAUSIBLE for the Russians to influence the election WITHOUT American help!!! re: Brennan

  • Lazycrockett

    Al Frankin is on Lawrence.

  • I just said the same thing about Feinstein last week: someone needs to tell these people when it’s time to leave the stage. They almost never quit on their own. They need to retire. I’m not in favor of a mandatory retirement age but after 70 you really should question whether or not you’re still able to do your job effectively.

    • Natty Enquirer

      “Someone” is the person in the voting booth.

      • safari

        Hear, hear

    • Johnny Wyeknot

      70 is the new 62.

      • johncAtl

        I just turned 62 and now I’m 70? Get off my lawn!

    • Ross

      I know thirty-year-olds without an intelligent thought.

      And I know eighty-year-olds who are brilliant.

      And I also know the opposite.

      Age does not determine value.

    • bambinoitaliano

      Blame their bloody children and grandchildren who do not want to deal with their senility. Instead they made the rest of the country suffers.

  • Frostbite

    Shrug, another day, another GOP Senator.

  • JCF

    Lawrence talking about book by 26 psychiatrists, “The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump”!

    https://www.amazon.com/Dangerous-Case-Donald-Trump-Psychiatrists/dp/1250179459

    “Doesn’t have normal human emotion; feels pity ONLY for himself—as victim.”

    • Johnny Wyeknot

      They really aren’t supposed to be doing this.

      • Lazycrockett

        These aren’t normal times.

        • Ross

          And amen.

      • safari

        By convention. We’re no longer in conventional times.

        • Ross

          Amen.

      • johncAtl

        True, but extraordinary times call for extraordinary actions. I skip more of Joe’s postings lately than I read. I just can’t take how insane things have gotten.

      • Natty Enquirer

        This is still the position of the American Psychiatric Association:

        On occasion psychiatrists are asked for an opinion about an individual who is in the light of public attention or who has disclosed information about himself/herself through public media. In such circumstances, a psychiatrist may share with the public his or her expertise about psychiatric issues in general. However, it is unethical for a psychiatrist to offer a professional opinion unless he or she has conducted an examination and has been granted proper authorization for such a statement.

        • Johnny Wyeknot

          And psychologists.

      • SoCalGal20

        They have decided in this instance that a duty to warn overrides all else.

        http://www.adutytowarn.org

        Btw Rachel had another mental health professional on one of her shows last week talking about this.

        • Natty Enquirer

          Which is why they are refusing all royalties.
          😉

      • JCF

        The raison d’etre of the book is explaining WHY, contrary to the “Goldwater Rule,” they feel they MUST do this.

      • William
    • Ross

      I ordered the audible version. Will start listening to after FEUD.

  • safari

    Can we take a moment now and think that, somewhere, someplace, Sarah Huckabee-Sanders is getting ready for bed, perhaps thinking: “I’m a horrible person. I try not to lie, but isn’t misleading the same?”

    • Hank

      Her religious upbringing by her daddy obviously failed!!!

      • BJORN RAGNVALDR

        No, its right on point for the faux xristians they are.

    • Sam_Handwich

      i’m thinking less introspection, more fried Oreos

      • BJORN RAGNVALDR

        Deep fried in lawrd stuffed into a twinkie.

      • safari

        I had a deep fried Oreo once. Decadent doesn’t begin to describe it.

        • Natty Enquirer

          How is it battered?

          • safari

            Tempura at the place I was at.

          • BJORN RAGNVALDR

            By it’s republican president husband.

        • Sam_Handwich

          you gotta try the bacon/sriracha/pumpkin spice ones!

          • BJORN RAGNVALDR

            AGGGHHH Not pumpkin spice!

          • safari

            No. I don’t.

          • johncAtl

            Sriracha and pumpkin spice. Yum. Just not at the same meal.

    • djcoastermark

      I might add, “some where, someplace, Sarah Huckabee Sanders is getting ready for bed, chewing on her cud, perhaps thinking……”

      • safari

        You’re making me think of her with the word “suckle”. And that’s not right.

        • johncAtl

          I’m certain Mark has done some suckling, and been suckled.

          • safari

            If that’s her husband, I hope he hugs her because I imagine she needs it.

          • johncAtl

            The image of Sarah being suckled may keep from ever sleeping again. I meant djcoastermark.

        • edrex

          suckling pig.

    • I think she’s looking at her online stock portfolios and, more importantly, future options and shorts since they have access to insider trading tips, like everyone else in that fucking crooked Trump cabinet. It is a big money making operation for everyone involved — and boy, are they good at it!

    • greenmanTN
      • bambinoitaliano

        Looks like delivery of fresh bacon. Is that another Amazon pilot project? The company did buy Whole Food after all.

      • JCF

        Montgomery Burns: “When pigs fly!”

        https://media.giphy.com/media/6gQWQrIrNXuSs/giphy.gif

        Smithers: “So… will I be making that check out now, sir?”

        Burns: “Noooo, I still prefer not.”

    • Adam King

      Or, she’s jerking off with a greasy chicken leg.

  • gaycuckhubby

    I know everyone is cheering for public servants to be let out to pasture after 70. But please leave RBG in place.

    • safari

      RBG is a youth icon.

      • andrew

        As much as I think that we need younger people in responsible positions of government, I sure want RBG, Kennedy and Breyer to remain on the court until Trump/Pence are history because they would be replaced by extreme right wingers.

    • worstcultever

      oh absolutement

  • Hank

    Herr Drumpf Apologize???? NEVER will it happen!!!

  • fuzzybits

    Had this poster in the early eighties. I should’ve had it framed because the cats got a hold of it and shredded it. Sister Boom Boom (RIP) got quite a few votes at the time. http://images.huffingtonpost.com/2012-08-14-SisterBoomBoom.jpg

    • Helen Damnation™

      I remember this! Saw one on Castro street, a “couple” years ago…

    • TimCA

      I actually have this poster rolled up in a tube somewhere. Someday I’ll get around to framing it and finding a place to hang it.

  • andrew

    There are about 25 out of 100 U.S. Senators serving today that are over 70 years of age. We are not going to amend the constitution to change this, but I think that we need to have a national discussion about when the older generation should step off the stage and pass the torch to the next generation. We have seven senators in their eighties and some of them are talking about seeking another six year term. IMO that’s just foolish. It’s not like we don’t have a huge pool of people qualified to replace them.

    • johncAtl

      John Kennedy said it well … “Let the word go forth from this time and
      place, to friend and foe alike, that the torch has been passed to a new
      generation of Americans…”

    • bambinoitaliano

      A deranged person was put in the highest office. Good luck prying the power off a bunch of grim reapers who wants to kill us all.

    • Natty Enquirer

      A national discussion? I think you need to start with the people who keep voting them into office.

  • bambinoitaliano

    Just nobody sends out the APB next time he got lost.

  • Does it concern anyone under 65 is “the youth movement” of the Democratic Party — our “young wave” of Presidential candidates? Take a look. Here is the age of possible candidates on Inauguration day in January 2021. (Note- I may be off by a year).
    ________________
    Governor Jerry Brown – 82
    Bernie Sanders — 79
    Joe Biden – 77
    Hillary Clinton — 73
    Al Gore — 72
    Senator Elizabeth Warren — 70
    Senator Al Franken — 69
    Senator Sherrod Brown — 67

    • Ross

      You don’t like it?

      Run for office.

      • johncAtl

        Is it too late for Bob Dole to run again? I was in Kansas this week and my hotel was one or two blocks from the Robert Dole Federal Courthouse.

        • TampaDink

          At 94, I would hope that even Bob Dole thinks it is way too late for Bob Dole to run again.

      • safari

        It’s not so much run for office… it’s that there is a crop of leaders already here that needs more noteriety.

    • johncAtl

      Damn, I’m almost old enough to run for President. At least that’s what what I’m hearing from many people. Good People.

      • TampaDink

        But you ARE good people. (and too sane to run for president)

    • fuzzybits

      We still hope Sherrrod will stay a bit longer.

      • In the Senate, sure. I just think we need some younger Presidential candidates.

    • Lazycrockett

      Mayor Pete Buttigieg – 38

      • johncAtl

        You had sheets made with Pete’s image on them, didn’t you? Admit it.

    • andrew

      I like all of the people on your list and they have made great contributions to our party and nation, but we should be looking to the 40+ year olds as the future leaders and office holders of tomorrow.

    • houstonray

      Xavier Becerra – 61
      Kamala Harris – 55
      Corey Booker – 52
      The Castro Brothers – 45
      Joe Kennedy III – 40
      Pete Buttegieg – 38

      • MikeBx2

        I like this list. 😉

        • johncAtl

          I do too. But I would like to see a few on the upper list retire from public life and spend time with their grandchildren.

      • I am holding out for Jack Bouvier Kennedy Schlossberg but at 24 he is too young and he needs to graduate Harvard Law and run for Congress and then Senator from somewhere first. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f9110f673754b27dfd15072bebde7fcb021fce8ffae84639e96ddb8caf4d8b77.jpg

        • Lazycrockett

          He would be better to run for gov. Most of our presidents do not come from Congress.

          • He wanted to go into medicine and be one of those guys who goes around in an ambulance and delivers emergency services, not a full doctor, when he was at Yale. Caroline must have given him the good old “Kennedy Family Dynasty” talk to get him interested into law and politics. He did not express much of an interest until last year from what I have been reading.

          • johncAtl

            I’m afraid now that they’ll all come from Reality TV. I hope not to be around to hear that Kim Kardashian is the newly elected president and Kanye West is the first gentleman.

          • This is what worries me. Celebrities with the perception of access to unlimited money thinking they can be President. Let us hope Trump can kill this once and for all.

        • safari

          He and Prince Harry should unify our realms by marriage.

      • TimCA

        I now suddenly feel part of the “youth” set again. 🙂

      • TimCA

        If anyone has ever heard Becerra speak, they would be highly pleased. He can be a really impressive speaker.
        (pls note- not disrespecting anyone else on this list in any way)

        • houstonray

          I saw him a couple of times on CNN and was like “WOW! This guy is impressive”.

      • Lazycrockett

        I really think if Pete is interested in the WH he will run in 2020. He and his team are going to have to collect and figure out voter data on how him being gay is going to affect his chances. He is gonna have to not only see what campaign he needs to run down the road, but also prove to the DNC and donors that he is a viable candidate that the American public will accept.

        • safari

          Why 2020? Why not have a period of federal governance first?

          • JCF

            Or Governor—that would be awesome!

          • Lazycrockett

            It’s highly unlikely he could flip a red state like Indiana.

      • SoCalGal20

        Kirsten Gillibrand – 54

    • safari

      My grandma is 87 and part of the “young crowd” at her 150 year old church.

      • JCF

        It’s painful, because it’s true.*

        * To me, to me.

    • MikeBx2

      I have respect for all these people, but I do not want them to be the 2020 Dem nominee. At least, that’s how I feel today.

      • Ross

        In 2006, if somebody told me that some unknown YOUNG Senator with the absurd name of Barrack Obama, AND BLACK, would win the Presidency in 2008, I would have laughed my head off.

        In short, we have no idea who will run for the 2020 election.

        Oh, and YOUNG Bill Clinton was another where-did-he-come-from candidate.

        • Lazycrockett

          As was Jimmy Carter.

          • johncAtl

            I’ve admitted it here before, but I voted for Ford. I was 18 and it was my first time voting. I hated Nixon but thought Ford was an honest, good person. Not the brightest, but he seemed to care about people. I just didn’t know much about Carter… I didn’t live in Georgia until ten years later.

            If I knew now what I know about Carter I would have voted for him. History (except in Texas school books) will view Carter much more favorably than Reagan. And I met Carter once on a plane. I was flying from Atlanta to Los Angeles about 15 years ago and had been upgraded so I got to board early. I was reading the newspaper when someone put their hand in front of me and said hello. It was Jimmy Carter. I think he said hello to everyone on the plane before we pushed back from the gate.

          • Ford was my professor at U of Michigan when he stopped being President. He was brought in for some graduate seminars. He was brilliant. His mind was sharp — and his anecdotes about government’s role in economic policy were great, he was not a doctrinaire free marketer but middle of the road. A classic Rockefeller wing moderate Republican. The Public Policy school at UM is now named for him. A real shame that that wing of the GOP is basically non existent.

        • MikeBx2

          Exactly!

        • JCF

          Really? In 2006, I totally would believe it (I did). Now in 2004 (before his speech at the DNC)…

        • whollyfool

          Barack Hussein Obama

    • Lazycrockett

      Historically Dems vote for younger candidates when it comes to their president primaries.

    • JCF

      Google says Al Franken is 66.

      • In January 2021 he will be 69, inauguration day for the next President. I listed the age they will be when they assume office (but as I say I might be off by a year).

    • edrex

      how old is oprah?

      • : January 29, 1954 (age 63) — so using the above comparison, she will be 66 on inauguration day in 2021, soon to be 67. I hope she does not run, not unless she gets some political experience first in an elected office.

      • safari

        I hate celebrities being president. That said, if anyone can heal us it’d be Oprah

    • IMPORTANT Addendum — do not misunderstand me, I right now probably favor Elizabeth Warren as our nominee, and as a Floridian and a member of one of the largest Democratic Clubs in the state (South Palm Beach County, every candidate makes a homage to see us because of Florida’s usually important early primary), I do not think age should be the only qualifying issue. Democrats need some younger candidates, and frankly, a new JFK would do this party much good — someone like Trudeau or Macron! But right now I am for Warren.

    • stevenj

      Ironically it was the 2 young (40’s) Kennedys that were assassinated from the youth movement of my generation

      • Ya think it was coincidental? I am just asking. Or there were a connection or powers behind it? I do not know if there was a conspiracy for either.

        • stevenj

          No. It was not accidental that 3 of the most progressive politicians in the US at the time were all killed. Kennedy wanted to reverse course in Vietnam:
          https://www.jfklibrary.org/Asset-Viewer/w6LJoSnW4UehkaH9Ip5IAA.aspx
          and the commencement speech at American University the previous June have led researchers to believe it was the beginning of a pullout in Vietnam (to be completed during JFK’s second term). Not what the CIA/Defense establishment/military contractors wanted at all.
          I was a history major in college and still enjoy the subject. A lot in the last 20-30 years has been written about the Kennedys, the Cold War years etc that it is hard for me to believe that there was not a conspiracy. The powers behind it. Seemed like a consortium of power. JFK was hated by the CIA (Dulles), FBI (Hoover), the defense establishment and most of the generals, the mob (RFK was AG), racists, Cuban exiles. So much evidence was destroyed after the assassination of JFK that a lot less is left of unclassified docs in the National Archives, CIA and FBI archives. I now consider it the first of 3 (so far) coup d’etats in my lifetime.

          Edited a couple of times.

          • Tread

            The other 2?

          • stevenj

            (2) The judicial coup that put Bush2 in power and the (3) hijacking of the 2016 election which put an imbecile in the White House that caters to the right wing crowd (and Wall St/ corporatist powers that be).

            Connect the dots.

  • DaddyRay

    Top of the 7th Cubs 3 Dodgers 1

    • johncAtl

      Since Jesse Jackson is from Chicago……. “Keep hope alive!”

      • DaddyRay

        Ya gotta give em hope

        • johncAtl

          I do. I love Chicago, except for the winter.

        • johncAtl

          Oh, didn’t they come from behind last year?

          • DaddyRay

            Yes in the last game of the Series

    • MikeBx2

      They need a couple more runs. Those Dodgers have a habit of coming back.

    • JCF

      Come on, Cubbies…

    • DaddyRay

      I should have kept my mouth shut

      • safari

        “He says, feeling regret”. Wait. Baseball?

  • worstcultever

    Night all – can’t stand any of it anymore

    Off to get horizontal and relax with a cozy mystery/comfort of physical book

    God I hate this world, but *sigh* guess I’ll see y’all on the flip

  • fuzzybits

    Uggg,15 year old girl stabbed 20 times by her boyfriend here today.

    • DaddyRay

      how terrible

      • fuzzybits

        They caught the boyfriend. Neighbors chased him down. They also said there was a lighter and a can of lighter fluid at the scene.

        • DaddyRay

          That is one seriously disturbed boy – how is the girl?

          • fuzzybits

            She’s in stable condition at Nationwide Children’s Hospital.

          • DaddyRay

            wow, she lived! She is going to need major therapy.

    • JCF

      :-(…

      • fuzzybits

        Too much violence.

    • safari

      I listen to the police scanner sometimes when I’m trying to fall asleep. It’s not the best input, but I like the fact of hearing live people speak on matters local to me. It’s amazing how much violence we have here — most of which is not reported.

      • fuzzybits

        We just hit the 103rd. homicide yesterday.

        • safari

          We’ve only had something like 11 or 12. Though I did learn that one of the two screenwriters for Top Gun was a professor here and his son disappeared in 2005. We found him in the river. For the third time.

        • johncAtl

          Where is here?

          In Georgia the highway signs display year to date road fatalities when there is no traffic info to report. I was heading to the airport on Monday and the sign said the number of traffic deaths was over 1,000 – almost four per day. Scary.

          • fuzzybits

            Oh thought you knew. Columbus,Ohio.

          • johncAtl

            I’m having wine and the brain cells are slowed down, because I know you’re told me that before.

          • fuzzybits

            They do that here too.

          • safari

            Every weekend in the last few weeks I’ve heard of 2-3 utility/light poles knocked down by drivers. Apparently it is normal.

      • I leave old Falcon movies on the DvD player to drown out the noise from my Philips CPAP machine. Whatever works, right?

  • DaddyRay
    • fuzzybits

      He loves you,just get used to it! 🙂

      • DaddyRay

        Daddy in the background is hot – I could jump on that

        • Treant

          You an’ me both.

        • safari

          I’m at that awkward age where I could go for either.

          • johncAtl

            I’ve been at that awkward age for 30 years.

          • safari

            Aspirations.

          • Natty Enquirer

            Why choose? Partay!

      • safari

        Baby squirrels, we’ve learned, are needy.

        • JCF

          Pretty much any baby mammal (um, they’re mammals. They’re into tits—just like me! ;-p )

    • Daddy can you post a photo of yourself with your shirt off for us here?

      • Treant

        And no pants, plus a leather jock? Kthxbai.

    • Max_1

      Cute Mr. Squirrel and buddy…

      I had the same crow follow me for five blocks today, buzzing my head with it’s wings as it flew by me five-six times today. Usually it’s just once or twice and it stays within a same block. Then the next block there’s another crow, or three. I have a crow in my neighborhood I’ve known for four years… It’ll see me a block away and squawk wildly as it dashes to greet me. Today, it walked along with me for two block… Yes, walked w/ me. Their memories are known to hold the recognition of human faces for up to two years and can educate their chicks about familiar people. This is the time of year the new chicks are fully fledged and feeding on their own and feel safe enough to explore boundaries and territories. Last year I was gathering close to 50+ by early November in the local park, feeding them peanuts. Mr. Squirrel’s are welcome, always.

      • safari

        Wild animal cognition is rarely appreciated. Thank you for observing.

      • Skeptical_Inquirer

        I remember there was an experiment where researchers had some people keep track of some crows (no crows died but they were super annoyed). Eventually the researchers had to get the people working for them to wear masks and wigs to avoid being later divebombed by the same angry crows who would recognize them otherwise.

  • MikeBx2

    They’re in the stretch at Wrigley. Everybody sing! (Late Great Harry Caray, 1997)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnHV5FaqvEs

    • safari

      Words. Such passionate words.

    • johncAtl

      DaddyRay just jumped up and spilled his drink. Unless he’s lurking with the cat outside his new neighbor’s door.

      • DaddyRay

        They like jogging together – I have been trying to get a picture of them for you guys but have not managed to get one

        • johncAtl

          Do they keep their blinds open late at night?

          • DaddyRay

            I will let you know when I take my cat for a walk

        • safari

          They jog. Together? That’s a relationship that will last.

          • DaddyRay

            I am at the ready to help rub out any muscle aches they might have

    • Lazycrockett

      That statue of him outside of Wrigley is fucking scary.

      • safari

        Do you … see … the videocap …

        • MikeBx2

          LOL!

        • Lazycrockett

          I’m in the middle of updating windows so I’m trying to save bandwith.

      • MikeBx2

        I’ve never seen in person, just pics.

        • Lazycrockett

          It has fans coming out of him its just really really bizarre.

    • I am convinced my virtual Second Life avatar Ryce helped break the losing spell last year at virtual Wrigley Field with his pet goat, Lenny. Lenny channelled Murphy and had him break the curse of the series and it worked.
      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/3c92bd3289114d8d58aedc307fa9565daf174672034004d50bbdd4f185b4ff58.jpg

      • safari

        Whatever happened to the experiment to introduce evolving lifeforms into SL?

        • SL is stuck in 8 year old graphics technology. But if your computer is good enough (you do not need a VR headset, you need something running an NVIDIA 970 graphics card or better you can try Project Sansar in open beta to see the next stage in Virtual Worlds. It is not yet here for Mac users though. Here is a photo I took recently of the NASA museum
          Warning — it is slow to get in! https://www.sansar.com/
          https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d9270138827d7d0183f3e45e8a45833e3eaa25cdc8c3b1ea19f2adaaefe1fadd.png

          • safari

            We’ll all catch up. SL was a platform for the future… just never quite there despite even mundane things like NPR’s Science Friday (I seem tor recall) having an outlet there. But, we’re entering the augmented reality era soon on perhaps a broad scale. If that’s true, VR entirely follows. Please start thinking of its ethics for us all.

          • safari

            You, after all, seem to be whatever one calls an astronaut in the virtual realm.

          • A company in Florida, Magic Leap, (Plantation outside Fort Lauderdale) just received one half billion in VC funding — and are hiring like crazy — in augmented VR field, it is the future. Magic Leap https://www.magicleap.com/

  • TampaDink

    I wonder if they have Silver Alerts in the Capitol complex as we do on our highways down here in death’s waiting room.

    • safari

      I mean… my hometown just knows to check the riverbanks come spring.

      • TampaDink

        We have a growing problem with seniors who probably should have had their keys taken away, who go missing. The FL Dept. of Transportation advertises them as they do Amber Alerts, which are more rare here.

        • safari

          We really should have a unified national person alert system. Bind it to amber alerts for all I care, but there are plenty of reasons to be on the look out for someone for their own well being.

          • TampaDink

            I agree…..although I fear that it would be abused, like people who call 911 for non emergency reasons.

          • safari

            True, but from what I’ve listened to, dispatch analyzes what is reported and, when necessary, requests authorization to do things like request cell phone locations from the providers. The same (and perhaps stricter) procedures could be extended to alert when needed.

          • TampaDink

            I also worry about abuse of the system from stalkers. “My ex-boyfriend is missing & I need to find him…he requires medication.”
            Which reminds me of a very crass bit of stand-up material I once heard Anthony Jeselnik….”I’ve spent the last year searching for my girlfriend’s killer. I still haven’t found anyone willing.”

          • safari

            I have no idea the numbers on that at all. Good point.

          • TampaDink

            As long as local law enforcement & EMS are on the ball, I’m sure that it hasn’t become a big problem…and I hope it won’t.

          • safari

            I shouldn’t say it is dispatch that requests it. They report it… the decisions come from the police department. But normally it is pretty serious before they go that far. And it seems to work, even in situations when people are near their end. As is *very* often compared to what one would expect. Once or twice a night is not unexpected when someone threatens their lives; cell locations are used in a good number of those cases.

        • fuzzybits

          It seems at least a few times a month the news reports a missing adult.

          • TampaDink

            This is probably a good thing, not that there are so many adults who go missing, but that there is enough concern to report on them.

    • johncAtl

      If they did it would be going off every five minutes. Every two minutes if McCain is in the building.

      • TampaDink

        I don’t know, I think that he’s still pretty sharp, brain cancer & all compared to many others on the hill. (hair furor, the evil elf from hell, Cochran, etc.)

  • DaddyRay

    Why oh why have the Cubbies not learned their lesson with Turner

  • Max_1
    • DaddyRay

      That is awesome – our side has a great sense of humor pointing out their blunders

  • billbear1961

    About as healthy and “with it” as this republic.

    Keep working to loot the country and harm as many people–including children–as you can!

    No one will stop you.

    And when you die, you’ll be replaced with another CRIMINAL.

    • fuzzybits

      Rinse,repeat.

    • safari

      The Child Health Insurance Program (CHIP) has not been funded since the start of the month because the GOP are tying it to other anti-AHCA measures. Already states are starting to close the program to new children who need it. In November, Arizona will be the first state to start denying children coverage they have.

      • Thumbs up for bringing this to attention. This is why it is imperative progressives concentrate on not primarying sitting Democratic incumbents in the House and Senate next year — we need to challenge Republicans. For example, there are 7 Republican House seats in California that can be swung to Democrats. Progressives should concentrate on taking these seats and not unseating incumbent centrist Democrats in the House and Senate when possible. We need to be on the lookout for outside forces dividing us on this.

      • fuzzybits

        Ghouls.

      • OT — Safari btw did you catch our fave young Brit actor Nicholas Hoult playing a young JD Salinger in Rebel in the Rye? It got so so reviews on Rotten Tomatoes but Nicholas looks good with dark brown contacts. I am looking forward to catching it online. https://youtu.be/VWRhXMMb7CY

        • safari

          I haven’t. My long-form, non-serial consumption is lacking. Thank you for bringing this to my attention.

      • billbear1961

        And yet Americans continue to respect the “authority” of these criminals, even when they murder CHILDREN. Americans are an indecent people with no sense of honour or even common decency. Your press FAILS in their job to defend the truth from lies and genuine democracy from irrational, hateful and even CRIMINAL extremism.

        Any wealthy country, an advanced democracy, that lets children perish without adequate healthcare deserves DESTRUCTION.

        You are on that path.

  • fuzzybits

    Better news. Joyce and Otto Beatty honored tonight at the King’s Arts Complex. http://nbc4i.com/2017/10/18/joyce-and-otto-beatty-honored-with-award-from-the-king-arts-complex/

  • Skeptical_Inquirer

    OT: I’m guessing she got into politics because she couldn’t bear watching people actually getting help. As pointed out by commenters, sometimes a serious condition just can’t be freaking eyeballed while patient is sitting in the ER.

    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/diane-black-emergency-rooms_us_59e674cce4b0d0e4fe6bd0ee

    “Rep. Diane Black (R-Tenn.) proposed on Friday that hospital emergency rooms
    should be able to turn patients away to help keep health care costs down.

    “I’m an emergency room nurse,” Black told MSNBC host Chuck Todd on Friday. “There are people that came into my emergency room that I, the nurse, was the first one to see them. I could have sent them to a walk-in clinic or their doctor the next day, but because of a law that Congress put into place to say, no, I have to treat everybody that walks into that emergency room.”

    • Lazycrockett

      Fuck You Bitch.

      • Skeptical_Inquirer

        I don’t even know WHY she became a nurse. Also, I loathe her more because a ton of women get their extremely painful problems with their reproductive system ignored until it turns out to be something like a cyst just about to burst or cancer. I swear she has a cave person’s idea of ER despite her supposed training, probably expecting a bone to stick out or a fountain of blood.

        Also I’m guessing she wants to shoo away certain types of people but won’t admit it out loud.

    • Max_1

      DO NO HARM…
      … Rendered moot.

    • fkevin

      She is a long way from being an emergency nurse and will never lack health care:

      “Black is one of the wealthiest members of Congress. In 2013, the assets of Black and her husband David Black, who in November retired as CEO of Aegis Sciences Corp., were valued at nearly $150 million.”

      http://www.tennessean.com/story/news/2017/08/02/diane-black-enters-race-governor-tennessee/530652001/

      • Skeptical_Inquirer

        Of course, she’s got hers.

        I also took a gander at her Twitter. She’s oh-so-concerned about fetuses but I noticed that a lot of the comments were dragging her hardcore for calling herself pro-life but not caring about actual adult lives. Which is good, I only wished her state would kick her ass out then.

    • -M-

      Tell her that Reagan signed that law.

    • M Jackson

      OnT: I went to an emergency room once.
      16 years ago I was fit and healthy but went to the ER at Bellevue in New York City with a swollen left arm, and no insurance I could afford. I was admitted to the hospital with a blood clot in my shoulder ( the first patient to present with an upper-extremity DVT at Bellevue in 5 years). After 4 months of blood clinics and another blood clot found above my heart I was finally diagnosed early stage Non-Hodgkins lymphoma, Stage One and asymptomatic. 5 months of chemo and a predicted diagnosis of cured that has held to this day.
      My health care at that city hospital was subsidized by NY’s lower income provided insurance, HHC.
      Those people saved my life.

      My chemo nurse was an Indian woman, Krishna, who I depended on to understand me and keep me hopeful, and she wept in front of me when a patient died in another curtain one day and the emergency crew was called, she told me how hard it was.
      Sen. Diane Black (R) is a nurse who looked for a chance to pass over any patient.
      I pity anyone who had Black as a nurse or as their Senator. Or maybe they do deserve her.

      • whollyfool

        Wow. Very glad you’re here. 🙂

  • MikeBx2

    Cubs up by 1 going into the bottom of the 8th. Cubs manager ejected. Angry crowd. Baseball, I love it!

  • DaddyRay
    • safari

      WRONG. Cat psychological surveys indicate that they view us as larger cats.

      • DaddyRay

        My cat would never wear that outfit

        • Skeptical_Inquirer

          Perhaps cat clothes should be banned.

      • johncAtl

        They view us as something they would kill if they could.

        • safari

          Or another cat if they can’t.

          • johncAtl

            Really? I read something a couple of years ago that they are natural born killers of birds, mice, etc. Do they actually kill other cats?

          • safari

            Yes.

      • M Jackson

        What have you read about that? I’m very interested.
        I believe the theory that with our loving domesticated cats we are mother-replacements, that our cats remain Infantilized to secure this relationship with us, their providers. They kneed us incessantly when purring but are not seeking milk, with claws that never pierce our skin, and they love to nest with us. That’s what i’ve found after decades of owning rescued and adopted puss companions.

      • I was watching this 2012 video series of how to introduce a first generation male Bengal 6 month kitten to a cat household — of an older female Bengal and a regular cat. Bengals are 50% wild. Very interesting viewing. This cat is crazy. He can easily ruin your house and hurt the other cats. https://youtu.be/H_mgXHAMDZI

    • Max_1
  • Max_1

    The pharmacist to Congress has something to say about that Alzheimer’s remark
    https://www.statnews.com/2017/10/11/congress-pharmacist-alzheimers/

    “At first it’s cool, and then you realize, I’m filling some drugs that are for some pretty serious health problems as well. And these are the people that are running the country,” Kim volunteered, listing treatments for conditions like diabetes and Alzheimer’s. “It makes you kind of sit back and say, ‘Wow, they’re making the highest laws of the land and they might not even remember what happened yesterday.’”

    • safari

      Mmmm. Yes. But — this man? ONLY this man?

  • boobert

    Today’s nightmare was keebler elf grinning while not answering any questions.

  • DaddyRay

    Come on Cubbies – hang in there. Last inning
    Cubs 3 – Dodgers 2

  • DaddyRay
    • johncAtl

      I do … bigly.

    • MikeBx2

      4 6 3 DOUBLE PLAY. Cubs live to fight another day!!

      • DaddyRay

        Woot Woot

    • JCF

      Hoping we WILL have complete sentences again…when Drumpf gets 25 to Life!

  • -M-

    O/T:
    I always thought Niger was pronounced nigh-jer. ?? Nigeria is nigh-jeer-ee-uh, right?

    • safari

      I’m from Michigan. We pronounce Detroit with a hard T.

      • My Michigan chic friends used to pronounce it something like Day-Twoit, the francaise way 🙂

        • safari

          Just like Target is Tar-jae?

      • johncAtl

        The first T or the second one?

        Natives of Atlanta drop the t’s. It comes out as ad-lan-a.

        • safari

          You can always tell a non-native because they’ll say “DEEtroit”. Dear God, what a freaking insult, people! Ya soun’ like-a buncha hillbillies already. No, use that breath clipping mechanism and cut off the T. Then accent the second syllable and cut off THAT T as well. It’s almost like two clipped words slurred together. Welcome to DihTroih! It’s not so bad! Just don’t go a block off that main drag or we’ll put ya in the hahspidal. JANUARY 2004 UPDATE: Brett Herron has reminded me that “not all Michigan residents are nasally northwoods white folk,” (THAT cracks me up) and that blacks and whites in the Motor City often say “DEE-troit”. He’s right. But Antonie Laumet de La Mothe de Cadillac is probably turning over in his crossaint-lined grave…

          http://www.michigannative.com/ma_pronunciations.shtml

          • johncAtl

            I’ve always said “du-Troit.” But that may be that I’m Southern. At least quasi-Southern. I grew up in North Florida which is not Southern, but have been in Atlanta more than half my life.

          • safari

            Michigan first throws all its voice into its nose. Then we claim there is no accent, and, that what we have is the universal midwestern accent.

          • AmeriCanadian

            I’m late to this party but some of my Windsor friends pronounce it as Dee-troy-it. I’m like WTF??? You live right next to it and you still mispronounce it? 😉

    • JCF

      Seems Knee-zher’ is preferred.

      • -M-

        So I gather. I just never heard it until the last two weeks. But Nigeria?

        Also, go home Niger River, you’re drunk. 😂

  • DaddyRay

    Double Play – Cubs Win!!!!!!!

    • safari

      I am happy for you.

      • DaddyRay

        Thank you

        • safari

          You do realize I must now care about the outcome of this series?

          • DaddyRay

            You are welcome to drive on over to Chicago and party in boys town

          • safari

            I’ll watch.

    • MikeBx2

      That was an exciting game. Glad they stayed alive.

    • johncAtl

      WooHoo….. now go check and see if the neighbors are celebrating while naked.

  • JCF

    Cubs survive!

  • Ninja0980

    Cubs stay alive for another day.

  • This New York boy will root for the Cubbies over the Yankees if it comes down to that.
    1. I was born in Brooklyn. Screw the Yankees. Go National League!
    2. The Yankees have won 27 World Series, and the Cubs 1. Let the Cubbies win one more.

    • DaddyRay

      I’m good with that but I think a Cubs – Yankees World Series would be fun

      • Ninja0980

        I do too, especially with my Yanks winning.

        • safari

          Pain is pleasure is what I see

        • DaddyRay

          No matter the outcome – I still love ya

    • JCF

      This Californian will (gagging) root for the Yankees over the Dodgers if it comes to that. Because the Dodgers are the root of All Evil (and the [email protected] went out and bought the best team money could buy. I HATE that.)

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d044515238212288d4f2fd663ba909dd59a4bc4900e3d6cdfe7c479f3149b1d0.jpg

      • LOL

      • Ninja0980

        Yup, and say what you will about this year’s Yankees but most of our talent is homegrown.

        • JCF

          Admittedly, I loathe the Dodgers homegrown team, too. How do the f*ckers have the Rookie of the Year Every. Freaking. Year???? >:-(

    • MikeBx2

      Watching the Giants is what got me interested in baseball and then I moved to Atlanta when the Braves were red hot. So I tend to pull more for National League. But in the end, I just enjoy the game, whoever is playing.

      • Ninja0980

        Have to say, pretty soon I don’t think there will be a difference between the two leagues.
        I think the DH will soon be the thing in both leagues.
        People want to see runs, not strategy.

        • JCF

          Oh HELL no!

        • johncAtl

          I went with a friend who was really into baseball to see the Braves play in the early 80s. Since I knew nothing about baseball I kept asking him questions about why they were doing certain things and he explained that it was a game of strategy. That made the game a lot more interesting to me.

          • safari

            I did the same with a Brazilian with the last world soccer thing. Such passion.

    • My parents were such diehard Brooklyn Dodger fans, to this day it amazes me that a team that has not existed for 60 years has such memories — and such devoted followers. They still have old Dodgers memorabilia in their house. There was a good baseball series “The Ghosts of Flatbush” on HBO (now on Youtube) that shows the Dodgers and their fans and ballpark at Ebbets Field. They still seethe at mention of The Yankees. Interestingly — Barclay’s Center, the new Basketball arena is where their stadium would be in Brooklyn if Robert Moses, the “master builder and destroyer of neighborhoods” agreed to let them stay in Brooklyn. They refused to move to Queens (where the Mets ended up) and moved to LA instead.

  • DaddyRay
    • safari

      If we had bears in such bliss.

    • JCF

      That’s freaky. I don’t ever recall seeing a cat in such a posture.

      • safari

        I don’t discount it.

  • Ninja0980
    • DaddyRay

      It has been a very satisfyingly long fall season – I have been worried with every storm that we will be left with bare trees for 6 months but they have been hanging on to those leaves

      • safari

        And they color… and fade. The bright blue sky keeps us satisfied along with the unusual warmth. Yet, we worry about what comes next. Before (or perhaps without) the snow.

      • Ninja0980

        Same here.. and other then a couple of trees. we’ve actually gotten some good fall colors.

  • JCF

    These baseball play-off threads (essentially) are amazing to me. I’ve been here since before my Giants first won it all in 2010 (then in 2012 and 2014), and we didn’t get a *fraction* of the baseball commentary we’re getting now! [I recall Joe had a thread when the Giants won the WS 2010: the focus was on Giants (then) closer Brian “The Beard” Wilson. The comments mainly ran to “Sportsball? Huh? But oh, WOOF!” ;-/ ]

  • MikeBx2
    • safari

      James Woods is a twitter villain to me. He has no meaning outside of what I should dislike him for. And what I’ve read it is justified. In other words, he’s has never entered my mind as having redeeming qualities and leaves it with less than neutral words.

    • JCF

      Ah, so Woods stole an empty Rio picture, and turned it into an empty NFL picture. Kinda like that 100,000+ crowd in South America “praying for Kim Davis”? }-p [And of course, FOX does that all the time. Take a Democratic crowd, and turn it into a Rethug crowd!]

    • Skeptical_Inquirer

      He and others like him need to get it through their head that If you have to use misleading pics to make a point, your point is garbage.

    • johncAtl

      James Woods, Scott Baio, Bob Eubanks, etc. Second rate celebrities who all blame liberals for the fact that they just aren’t someone that audiences want to see.

      • greenmanTN

        Chuck Woolery, Pat Sajack…

        It is just me or is there something really strange about people whose job it is to give stuff away (cash, prizes) bitching about people getting things for free?

  • liondon#iamnotatraitor

    Great example of white male privilege… Hillary has a cough and she’s not fit for office..this guy’s pooping his pants and.. cool 👍

  • Ninja0980

    O/T but got a rather angry response from a couple of homocon former porn stars after I pointed out on their onlyfans page (my comment got deleted) that they were Trump supporters who were stupid enough to believe he wouldn’t be the monster they call him now.
    Truth hurts eh?

    • DaddyRay

      Homocons all have daddy issues looking for approval but never getting it

      • Ninja0980

        Sad in a way.
        They try to get approval they’ll never get.
        My one close friend realized that a long time ago.
        Self loathing homocons never do.

  • DaddyRay

    Here was that frustrating call
    https://www.clippituser.tv/c/vgqndx

    • MikeBx2

      I still can’t believe they said he foul tipped that. Clearly no. But in the end it was a big ruckus for nothing. Maddon was hot though.

      • DaddyRay

        If the Dodgers would have won that by 1 run you just know that would have been the call that was blamed for years to come

  • Ninja0980

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    Joe Maddon on umpires’ overturn: “If Granderson hits the next one out, I may run out of the clubhouse in my jock strap. It was that bad.”
    I’m assuming this is the call Daddyray was talking about.

  • coram nobis

    OT: another augury, from the Guardian, on environmental changes. It seems that winged insects are in a fast decline.

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/oct/18/warning-of-ecological-armageddon-after-dramatic-plunge-in-insect-numbers

    The abundance of flying insects has plunged by three-quarters over the past 25 years, according to a new study that has shocked scientists.

    Insects are an integral part of life on Earth as both pollinators and prey for other wildlife and it was known that some species such as butterflies were declining. But the newly revealed scale of the losses to all insects has prompted warnings that the world is “on course for ecological Armageddon” …
    — lede

    • DaddyRay

      Sweet dreams

    • safari

      Hear, hear.

    • billbear1961

      I’m sorry for other life on this planet.

      As for homo “sapiens,” I wish upon that species of demonic ape complete STERILITY.

      • safari

        No, my dear Bear. Acknowledgment of the other species would help greatly.

        • billbear1961

          The demonic ape recognizes nothing but ITSELF.

          • safari

            In terms of climate, the US worry is the *minority* in the country and the planet.

          • safari

            Though literally the most dangerous on the planet.

          • -M-

            I think most people generally mean well. But they are on average dangerously short-sighted.

            Or as I say in less generous moods. Much like monkeys, people are clever enough to be dangerous and too stupid to be trusted.

          • greenmanTN

            A bunch of monkeys with a hopped-up view of our own importance and we’re just begging for trouble.

          • billbear1961

            And we’re going to GET it.

        • billbear1961

          Sterility is the kindest way to rid this beautiful planet of our species.

          I think Nature and JUSTICE have in mind other more FEROCIOUS solutions.

          • safari

            We need’t end. We need to transcend.

          • billbear1961

            Not the direction the demonic ape is headed in–certainly not in this sorry country, safari.

            The brutes are in the minority–it’s true–but they are bold and brazen, ever-more dangerous, because they KNOW from long experience that their opposition is lazy and cowardly, and that the “free” press–what a joke!!–will NOT hold them truly accountable.

    • billbear1961
  • fuzzybits

    Nightline just did a segment on Dominica and the situation is dire and hardly being talked about. http://abcnews.go.com/International/hurricane-ravaged-dominica-front-line-climate-change-fighting/story?id=50559156

    • whollyfool

      Such a shame 🙁

  • Skeptical_Inquirer
    • safari

      No joke. I was typing (in vim) when my coworker approached and asked if I’d like to hold one of his ferrets. Of course I wanted. The creatures crawled all over me, and I couldn’t hold on so directed it toward my desk. And then it leaped on my keyboard. Well… The swap file saved me.

      • safari

        /nerd

      • fuzzybits

        I knew a couple with ferrets and cats. They would tear the house apart playing.

        • safari

          My HS prom date had a ferret who was allowed to roam and ripped the washing machine drain tube from the house drain. These coworkers have a hardened room and floor for them to play.

      • -M-

        Slinkies with fur.

      • greenmanTN

        When I lived in Asheville I went to the pet food store one day and they had a sugar glider. OMG it was so cute and playful and I wanted it so bad, but cats + sugar glider did not seem like a good combo. At best it’s a recipe for havoc, pictures off the walls, cats and a marsupial flying all over the place… (It sounds kinda fun actually, if it weren’t for that whole feline murder thing.)

        http://www.cutestpaw.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Sugar-Glider.jpg

        http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-4P0BA6aIBzw/T9QCcHSuSFI/AAAAAAAAAAs/1_FZsOu29-0/s1600/Sugar+20Glider.jpg

        • Skeptical_Inquirer

          Yeah, I can totally see the sugar glider activating the cat’s hunting instinct dial all the way up to 11.

          • greenmanTN

            Last night I found a plastic ball with a bell inside so it was 4 young cats and 1 ball and it was like a rugby scrum. A sugar glider would be like a cross between a tornado and a wood chipper.

      • whollyfool

        Obviously the ferret was an emacs enthusiast lol

      • AmeriCanadian

        Vim? Wow, I didn’t realize that was used very much any more. I cut my teeth on what was then vi. Most powerful search and replace I’ve ever used. Still use it today.

    • DaddyRay

      My kitty enjoyed watching every minute of that video

    • Doesn’t look very ergonomic to me.

  • fuzzybits
    • safari

      ++

  • Lazycrockett
    • DaddyRay

      That is just so cruel

      • billbear1961

        It is indicative of what this country is becoming.

        If there is a God–if there is ANY kind of JUSTICE–this nation WILL be punished for its subservience to EVIL.

        What kind of legitimate authority can a party of thieves, liars, AND would-be MURDERERS lay claim to?!

        None–none–NONE!!

    • What kind of sick fucker steals a wheelchair?

      • Lumpy Gaga

        Hmmmm….almost half the Senate.

        • billbear1961

          Yes, and this country still respects the “authority” of a party of such ruthless CRIMINALS.

  • Lazycrockett
    • DaddyRay

      Caught in another lie

      • JCF

        SHOCK!

    • MBear

      “He was joking”

    • billbear1961

      But, but the demented, racist disgrace had proof–PROOF, I say–that he was lied about!

      His “proofs” are as nonexistent as his scruples.

    • JT

      Yeah, you were misunderstood by anyone who doesn’t think you were trying to be your monstrous self.

  • DaddyRay
  • Lazycrockett

    Did anyone watch the CNN debate between asshole Cruz and worthless bullshitter Bernie?

    • DaddyRay

      Thank goodness no – I would be shopping for a new TV

  • Lazycrockett
  • greenmanTN

    Up in the middle of the night, can’t get back to sleep.

    Elvis and Petey taking a break from being evil. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/9eb06d6367e9cd41eb13615ac101b7ab5ca6b7b44e583ba2514177fc5b2fa4da.jpg

    • billbear1961

      Well, that’s what happens when kitties watch too many Tales of TERROR!

      • greenmanTN

        LOL. I’m rearranging furniture trying to put a workspace together and it looks like a bookstore blew up. A somewhat morbid, odd bookstore. Years ago my aunt and her then new BF helped me pack for a move and he asked if I was a devil worshipper.

        • billbear1961
          • greenmanTN

            If you haven’t seen it, Shadow Of The Vampire is very good. It’s about the making of the silent movie Nosferatu, but for the sake of realism the director (FW Murnau) has found a real vampire but the cast and crew doesn’t know it.

            https://youtu.be/2nChsqAPyHw

          • billbear1961

            Yes, we’ve seen it.

            🙂

    • zhera

      Are the kittens all tame now? Do they come to you for cuddles? God, I wish I had a kitty tummy to stuff my face into right now!

      • greenmanTN

        Not really. There are 3 little kittens outside, 2 gray tabbies and a gray and white with a white ‘mustache,’ which have never been inside and won’t let you pet them. (It was their 2 siblings the crazy lady shot and killed.) It’s my goal to trap them and bring them in for indoor boot camp (no going outside until they calm down and let you pet them) so that when it gets really cold they will come in if they need to.

  • Blake J Butler
    • JCF

      District described as “Solidly Republican”: I’m afraid he’ll be replaced by some Bannonite. Or do “Solid Republicans” revolt, look elsewhere from a Bannonite {cough Nazi cough}? Dems, take a closer look!

    • greenmanTN

      These people are chicken shits. They are running away rather than dealing with the crisis their own policies and divisive rhetoric brought about. Make no mistake, Trump and the resurgence of the Nazis, KKK, and far religious right is a direct result of ‘mainstream’ GOP exploitation of fear and anger, but now the shit has really hit the fan they’re scampering off to cushy lobbyist jobs.

  • JT

    Hope you enjoyed your birthday bash last night and get up feeling good today.
    http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_maacghjLyY1qkham9o1_500.gif

  • anne marie in philly

    first, he’s from MS; second, yeah, it’s probably time for him to hit the road.

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  • Ewell Knévanneaux

    Weekend at Bernie’s: Bernie Goes to the Senate!

  • netxtown

    As a “senior citizen” – this pisses me off. Sticking the collective heads in the sand and wishing away the obvious visual signs of the human body simply failing – is filled with too much feigned ‘respect’ and not enough facing fact. Not facing the reality is cowardly.

    I hate it that I don’t have the physical strength I used to. I hate it I can’t see 20/20 without coke bottles. And i hate it that I can’t blow out the back of the toilet with a 200 psi stream of piss any more. But that is what is, and no amount of coddling is going to realign the stars just to appease my ego.

    We need people who are fully in charge of their mental facilities – brains that work! – to write law and run this country. Yes, there is a particular wisdom that comes from years of experience – but there is also wisdom in knowing when that experience is no longer relevant to the current trends and/or needs, and when it is time to step down due to declining mental and physical soundness.

    Retire already – and let the world move on.

  • Gerry Fisher

    *retire* like normal people!

  • kareemachan

    And…. maybe there’s a reason for examining politicians’ mental and physical health. Just look at drumpster.

  • AdamTh

    From Politico:
    Cochran made a career of steering federal dollars back home, working with former Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott (R-Miss.) for years to ensure their state benefited from hundreds of “earmarks” inserted in annual appropriations bills.

    All that money and it’s still a sh*t-hole. Record teen preg rates, STD rates, lowest education standards.

    We should deed it to Mexico, MAYBE they will accept it….

  • The_Wretched

    It’s ok to retire….

    It’s sort of cruel they stay in office well past their freshness date.

  • wds

    H**l, we have Tsarevitch Pussy Grabberovitch who got out of AF1 and couldn’t find his ride —which was right in front of him … AMH