LIVE VIDEO: Trump Signs Executive Order To Destroy Obamacare Markets, Enable “Junk” Health Insurance

Politico reports:

President Donald Trump is trying to do with the stroke of a pen what Republicans in Congress could not — bring about the end of the Obamacare markets.

Trump is expected to sign an executive order on Thursday directing an overhaul of major federal regulations that would encourage the rise of a raft of cheap, loosely regulated health insurance plans that don’t have to comply with certain Obamacare consumer protections and benefit rules. They’d attract younger and healthier people — leaving older and sicker ones in the Obamacare markets facing higher and higher costs.

It’s not yet clear how far the administration will go, or how quickly it could implement the president’s order. But if successful, the new rules could upend the way businesses and individuals buy coverage — lowering premiums for the healthiest Americans at the expense of key consumer protections and potentially tipping the Obamacare markets into a tailspin.

“Within a year, this would kill the market,” said Karen Pollitz, a senior fellow at the Kaiser Family Foundation who previously worked at former President Barack Obama’s Health and Human Services Department.

  • Tawreos

    If Obamacare was so bad it wouldn’t need all of these types of actions to kill it.

  • bkmn

    Which will drive up insurance costs for everyone. Good job Trump voters.

  • Rex

    His complete disdain for Obama is going to result in the suffering of hundreds of thousands of innocent people, and some will die.
    I can’t be the only one that can see this.

    • SDG

      Most sane people do, Rex…. just not ENOUGH sane people voted.

      • Cackalaquiano

        And not enough didn’t waste their votes on useless third party candidates

        • The_Wretched

          Any winning plan must assume the existence of 3rd party voters and 3rd party candidates.

        • SDG

          Amen

      • Rex

        I don’t want to be vindictive, but this is going to effect people who voted for this vile angry bag of hate, and I can’t help but think, good, you get what you asked for.

        • Cackalaquiano

          I just said it. They’re gonna have to die from their otherwise treatable conditions. Maybe then our society can regain some balance of decency. But we’re gonna have to look out for our friends and family who will also suffer.

          So harsh, but I’m done with those folks.

          • Joe in PA

            Unfortunately, they will figure out a way to blame Obama. They always do. And if they are stupid enough to vote for Trump, they are stupid enough to believe that it is all Obama’s fault. Sigh.

          • FAEN

            You and I said somewhat the same thing. Didn’t see your comment until just now. I’m in complete agreement.

          • Skokieguy [Larry]

            This! It is a cult and they are heavily invested in it. Realizing the monster Trump is would require them to realize they were wrong. To acknowledge that you are ill informed, and not smart enough to avoid being bamboozled is tough.

            There are many cases of seniors scammed out of money that don’t tell there family because when the senior (finally) realizes it, they are too ashamed to admit it.

            Frankly a good thing would be for our side to find a way for the other side to save face and come to our side instead of digging their heels in deeper – (gee it wasn’t your fault, anyone would have fallen for his compelling bluster…)

          • Todd20036

            That’s why I’m ok with them dying.
            Then they cannot vote anymore

          • Uncle Mark

            Except they’re not going to be the only ones dying. Unfortunately, there will be a lot of good people, allies, and innocents who will be imperiled as well. I know quite a number of folks, who depend upon the ACA, who supported the Democrats at the polls, who will also be harmed by this.

          • Cackalaquiano

            Right. We DO have to keep fighting for what’s right … for everyone. And we need to get smarter about how we engage with and convince low information voters.

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          • Todd20036

            I routinely block them from my WaPo forums.

            Frankly, that whole “alternate viewpoint” is bunk. Death and suffering is not an alternative viewpoint.

            I suspect people forgot really quickly what life was like before Obamacare, where the rich got well, and the poor died young.

            And unless you had medical insurance, you went from rich (or at least middle class) to poor pretty damned fast.

        • fuow

          Oh, I have no problem with that. Trump voters deserve this. Stay at home gay men who didn’t vote because Hillary wasn’t ‘pure’ enough deserve this. Green voters deserve this, double.
          The rest of us, not so much.

        • FAEN

          For the people that voted for him who will suffer because of this they will find a way to blame the Democrats. They always do, regardless of the facts.

        • Chris Gardner

          They’re too stupid to realize it will be his fault. They will blame democrats.

          • FAEN

            It’s more willful ignorance than stupidity IMHO.

        • SFBruce

          Donnie’s 35% of hard core supporters weren’t bothered by pussygate, didn’t care that he threatened people with violence at campaign rallies, and think it’s cool that Donnie wants to destroy the free press. They won’t turn on him till it hits them hard where they are. I don’t want to be vindictive, either, but Donnie is a threat to American values.

        • Ninja0980

          Same here.
          I have no pity for anyone who voted for Trump or voted third party.
          You wanted him or were willing to let this happen, now you can suffer the consequences.

        • JW Swift

          Except that they won’t recognize or understand that Trump’s actions are the cause. Faux Noize and the other right wing outlets will have some kind of narrative that will blame anything but Trump. And the sheeple will believe it.

        • Oh, Parker

          And they can forget opioids and any other kind of addiction treatment because congress is also in the pockets of the drug industries. I was listening to Randi Rhodes yesterday and she said they knowingly were sending hundreds of thousands of pills to areas where there were only a few hundred residents, so they would hit the street and addict more people. Trump is making everything worse.

        • itsnwman

          But those idiots will STILL blame Mr. Obama!

        • SDG

          Me too!

      • Jacob

        Ughain, HRC WON the popular vote. You know who else won’t except that? tRump.

        • SDG

          Obviously, not enough, in the right places!!!

    • djcoastermark

      Racist repugs can’t, or wont.

      • Cackalaquiano

        Then when this results in their having inadequate/no health insurance when they’re sick, they have to fall into financial ruin and/or die. Unfortunately we’ll have to pick up the pieces and help our decent friends and neighbors who also suffer from this.

      • fuow

        Unfortunately, purists on our side of the party line won’t learn from this, either.

        • The_Wretched

          the “purists” are the democratic party loyalists who want one voice – theirs, only. the demo-loyalists are the ones saying other people need to not exist.

          • TCinBerkeley

            Because it is their party? If you don’t like it, join the party and move up the ranks or even better make the Green Party an actual party. Also, the fact that they let Bernie run against HRC and NOT join the party speaks volumes. Do you think the Republicans would have done that?

            It is why I left the Greens in California and went back to the Dems. No one in the Green Party structure wants to actually build a party. Outside of presidential elections we never hear from them. NorCal is a fertile place to start such a movement with folks running for school board and city council and other low level seats. Does that ever happen?

            Do I love the Dems. No. But currently (because I am a realist) they are the only game with any power against Republicans.

            “The perfect is the enemy of the good” – Voltaire

        • Todd20036

          Yup. But Bernie! But Jill!
          And come the next election, it’ll be some other cult of personality.

    • Stephen Elliot Phillips

      3.5 million in puerto rico are already suffering

    • gaycuckhubby

      Racism kills.

      • Todd20036

        In this case, it’ll also kill other racists.
        Ask me if I’ll weep for them

    • The_Wretched

      Koch bros need a tax cut. /s

    • Chris Gardner

      When he goes to prison, maybe Obama will go to visit him just to gloat. Oh. Wait. Obama has class. Not like this fool.

    • GeneInSJ

      You’re not the only one. I pray that this is the final straw and he’s removed from office quickly.

      • FAEN

        If he can’t pass tax reform I believe the GOP will start it’s revolt to get him out of office.

    • kaydenpat

      “His complete disdain for Obama” and for the American people. It’s the American people who are actually going to suffer because of this E.O. President Obama’s health insurance is still good.

    • MonochromeMouse

      The big problem is no one with the power to do anything is willing to do it. And the rest of us don’t have the power to do anything without resorting to extreme and dangerous methods that would more likely than not fail and allow the dangerous ones in power to take complete control over everything.

  • Gene Perry

    OMG. Toddler-in-Chief goes off again. Isn’t there anybody who can control this Child?

  • Natty Enquirer

    And so the nation tilts one more degree in the direction of revolution.

    • FAEN

      I fear too many are more concerned with the Kardashian’s than revolution.

      • PickyPecker

        KOHLS IS HAVING A SALE!!

        • FAEN

          HA!

  • CanuckDon

    If by the stroke of a pen this plan will benefit the young and the healthy, how is that going to benefit Trump supporters? Talk about shooting themselves in the foot…and they got the guns to do it!

    • Goodboy

      So no mandate, no sign up info, and now this. They didn’t need to do anything like repeal. This will sink it just as easy.

  • dcurlee

    All those fuckers need the same insurance they want to implement

  • Bluto

    Threaten PR & an end to free press, withdraw from UNESCO & destroy health care for millions. & it’s only 10:30am.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d2ddee5baef195c57bc9d169ac6f9c1fba735fe06c61d3c0aaffdb1ef104ec5f.gif

  • Adam Stevens
  • billbear1961

    Well, will this FINALLY get people into the streets in massive and relentless protests?!

    If not, what WILL?!

    • fuow

      Nope, because we on the left still haven’t learned our lesson. I began to realize we are incapable of learning after LePage was elected the 2nd time in Maine.

    • Halou

      Most Americans can’t even bring themselves to protest their own murders. And when black people do try it they are called all sorts of ugly names, from terrorists to ingrates and myriad things in between.

    • bambinoitaliano

      Those who are healthy won’t. By the time they need it, it’s too late. Apply this to every single political issue the fucking moron and the rethugs trying to destroy and you get the crumbling of the American Empire. The short end of a culture that thrives on individualism versus collectivism.

    • FAEN

      Tell them Facebook will be banned. That would illicit a major response and yes that’s depressing.

  • fuow

    And how many of you purists STILL won’t be voting for the flawed Democratic Party candidates in 2018?
    Nearly all.
    You care as little about the people of this country as do the mother-fucking christers.

    • Silver Badger

      Please give it a rest, fuow. I, for one, have had enough and am going to block you for awhile.

      • The_Wretched

        srsly, shit happens and it’s beat up the non-Dems again. and again
        and again. It’s exactly how you drive people away from the Dem party.

        • FAEN

          I get both your points. I just wish now we could come together to fight our common enemy.

          • The_Wretched

            I do as well. I’m looking around to see if there’s a local protest for today’s EO.

    • Girlgoon

      This needs to be said !

  • Halou

    This is exactly what the GOP spent 8 years condemning Obama for, saying that EOs were issued for things that could not be done properly through the legislative process. It was, at least in the period between 2009 and 2016, described as “tyranny”. But then, Trump is white and he is rich. Privilege is his middle name.

    • Uncle Mark

      Yet how many Republicans will vote to invalidate the EO?

  • RMJ

    I’ve worked in the Healthcare Insurance Industry for the last decade. Before the ACA was passed our algorithms automatically denied many types of claims by default and you had to appeal the claim which involves a fairly long drawn out process. Many people don’t have the tenacity to dispute a claim so they just accepted it. This is why still to this day the number one type of bankruptcy in the U.S. is due to healthcare costs. I’m afraid that most of the Trump supporters won’t wake up until they lose their employer sponsored health care due to preexisting conditions or hit a coverage cap and have to file for bankruptcy. And even then they’ll try and blame the Dems, Obama, and Hillary. SMH…

    http://www.natlbankruptcy.com/us-medical-debt-statistics/

    “Medical debt is a big problem in the United States. For years, it’s been the No. 1 reason people file for bankruptcy — even though the more common assumption is that those struggling financially have been overspending in other areas of their life.”

    • pch1013

      The GOP Death Cult’s solution: make it much harder for individuals to file for bankruptcy.

      • RMJ

        And the logical extension, the return of debtors prisons. As we saw with the last iteration of the healthcare bill they tried to pass, this appears to be their agenda:

        1. Eliminate the basic healthcare protection afforded by the ACA
        2. Eliminate Medicare
        3. Eliminate Medicade
        4. Make it harder to file for bankruptcy
        5. Seize all assets to repay healthcare costs at end of life (Medicaid already does this via liens on any real property you have)
        6. Make it nearly impossible for lower and middle class to pass any remaining wealth/assets to surviving family members
        7. Rich get richer

        The big flaw I see in their grand scheme is that no amount of money can purchase clean air, drinkable water, and food (if it won’t grow) – we already know that the planet is on the verge of not being able to support human life, it’s possible that technology can compensate for the CO2 in the air, but our oceans are dying at an alarming rate and I believe that’s the tipping point. The planet will be here long after humans are extinct and it will adapt and heal itself after it rids itself of the human cancer that has infected it. Sorry for the rant and the doom and gloom but what alternative is there? Hopefully as history has taught us over and over, the poor and the weak shall inherit the earth and it wont end well for the rich. FSM save us all!

  • TheGrandWazoo2

    ♪ Killing us softly with this wrong ♪

  • PickyPecker
  • Blake Mason

    If this goes through …my only hope is that Trump voters are the first affected.

  • PickyPecker
    • Lizard

      Na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na NAZI!!!!!!

  • another_steve

    It’s Horror Thursday! Yaayy! A new horror every hour!

    Can’t wait for the next one!

  • Ragnar Lothbrok

    Dear Hell,

    Come get this bastard.

    Today!!

  • HAAAAAAA
  • vorpal 😼

    As someone who is just about to start taking a medication that will cost in excess of $80k / year, I’m glad I live in a country that has compassion and gives a damn about the well-being of its residents: even though I’m not Chilean, the government here will still pay for it.

    • Joe in PA

      Hey VP, this is O/T but you made me think of it with the word compassion. This little critter showed up at our door two days ago. He is TINY, dirty, and looks like an eye infection but quite friendly. He purrs and talks and lets you pick him (him?) up. A real sweetie. But unfortunately we can’t keep the little darling, we are taking him to a shelter this afternoon (no kill shelter) along with a big donation. We presume he was dropped off. Why are people so cruel?

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d67228f7e3f8da3c5374b5be90b08f9437a2ad4949f0e62b8b913661763918b2.jpg

      • Harveyrabbit

        Thanks for helping the little guy out!

        • Joe in PA

          Hmmm, I just looked at that picture again, he looks pretty scruffy. 🙁 Maybe I should add some sorrowful Sarah McLachlan song. ;(

          • HAAAAAAA
          • FAEN

            Hey-don’t make fun of Sarah lol. I love her music.

          • Joe in PA

            Not making fun…but can you stand to sit through one of those commercials? I can’t make it 15 seconds before I’m a bawling bowl of mush. 🙂

          • FAEN

            A whole 15 seconds? You’re a stronger man than me.

      • GayOldLady

        He’s so precious and pitiful. Thank you for being so kind and taking him to a no kill shelter. Hopefully he’ll get a good home.

        • Joe in PA

          And I just found out that we have a backup plan…our vet has the name of two folks that “foster” kittens. I hope it will all work out for him (her?).

          • PickyPecker

            The no-kill is a wonderful option. Have you called them about taking the kitty? Our local shelter has a ‘fee’ that has to be paid, especially if there are existing medical conditions.

          • Joe in PA

            We haven’t been able to reach them, they were closed yesterday and didn’t open till 11:00 am today. More to follow….

          • PickyPecker

            Not sure what goes through peoples’ heads. At least once a year we (and neighbors) get animals, especially cats, dropped off on our property. I guess people in ‘town’ think(?) that those of us in the country want and/or need to care for their unwanted pets!?!?!

          • ColdCountry

            No, they think the animals will survive on their own. Because they are stupid, cruel, and in total denial of the facts.

          • Ragnar Lothbrok

            Totally agree. Except I prefer they do that instead of putting them in a bag, with a brick and doing a river toss 🙁

          • vorpal 😼

            Foster is even better, if you can manage it. So nice to not have him end up in a cage until he can find a forever home.

      • HAAAAAAA
      • FAEN

        Good man! HUGS

        • Joe in PA

          Thanks, Hubs made that little trash can house for him. He stayed in it all night…he was in the same position when we came outside this am. As soon as you show up, he runs over to you. Awwwh.

          • vorpal 😼

            I love the chatty kitties, as you said that he is. They are so much fun. I’m just relieved to see that the poor little guy is safe and being cared for… so many terrible people out there as evidenced by what he’s been through, so I’m glad his luck has changed and he was able to stumble across some great guys!

          • FAEN

            Wellllll, now that he loves you…..

      • vorpal 😼

        Awwww… he is lovely :(.

        Actually, that is one area where Chileans tend to be less compassionate than Americans and Canadians: pets are viewed as an amusement until they become an inconvenience, at which point, they are discarded. We have a stray dog on every block, and people are known to just “put” their dogs outside when they go on vacation, and if the dog is there when they get back, they consider taking it back in.

        I don’t get it, since I would do anything for my fearsome feline foursome.

        A number of times we get stray dogs coming onto the private compound, and I think I have a big S (for sucker) imprinted on my forehead in a color that only doggies can see, because they usually end up at our place. I can’t resist: I almost always make them up a nice big bowl of ground beef, eggs, bread, and milk, and then end up in the backyard with them in my arms.

        Hubby just rolls his eyes at me and prepares the flea spray for the cats when I get all teary eyed and justify it by saying, “Sometimes everybody just needs a little cuddle and physical contact.”

        That sweet little bundle was so lucky to find you, and I hope that your kindness keeps him positive, happy, and healthy! Thank you for caring for him. ❤️

        • Ben in Oakland

          Here’s what I wrote about the dogs of Santiago when I went there five years ago.

          DOGS. Like the cats of Istanbul, but nowhere near as numerous, dogs are everywhere. They don’t belong to anyone, but live on the street. They’re not mean or anything, just pathetic, unwanted, and dirty, and are absurdly grateful if you pay them any attention. I petted one, and he followed me for the next 20 minutes, hoping for more. Maybe an adoption and a home? They literally sleep anywhere. People walk around them on the sidewalks, cars don’t drive too close to the curb on busy avenues because they might run over a sleeping dog.

          As I write, I am waiting for my overnight luxury sleeper bus. There’s a beautiful almost-a-spaniel sleeping in the aisle between facing benches. He’s like Canine Moses and the Red Sea– the waves of people simply part around him, and he sleeps on in his doggy dreams.

          • vorpal 😼

            Exactly. It’s bad here in Santiago (where I am now until tomorrow morning for medical reasons), but even worse where I live in La Serena. There are often dogs sleeping in the entranceways of grocery stores hoping for someone to notice them and give them a scrap or a bit of affection.

            They actually CAN, on occasion, be mean, if they become desperate for food. Thankfully, the community largely chips in and provides for them, but there have been instances where I have been jogging at night and suddenly I’ll notice a gang of six or seven strays following behind me. Terrifying. Cats and rabbits are often killed, and a couple of humans have been ripped to shreds as well.

            Most of the time, though, they’re quite docile and sweet, and you learn where the more aggressive ones are and simply to avoid those areas on foot. There is one cocker spaniel in particular that I know to avoid, because it goes completely nuts when you wander onto its block.

            The big problem with the strays is if you make eye contact with them when you’re out on foot. They are so unloved and so hungry that they instantly think that you’ve adopted them and will follow you – as you say – for 20 minutes or more.

            I don’t want a dog right now, but we almost ended up with one when I fed one beautiful, loving gal a tiny cube of beef from my lunch one day while walking back to the office. She promptly moved into our backyard and was so excited to see me come home from work that she would almost be doing summersaults. I could barely resist her and we got her food and supplied her needs even though we decided to not officially adopt her, but fortunately, the next family that moved here opted to take her in.

            She still escapes from their yard on rare occasion and prances all over the place making a hilarious menace of herself. I’m the one person who she doesn’t run away from, and she will always come trotting excitedly right over to me.

          • Ben in Oakland

            I thought it was very sad.

            I might go back to chile some day. I enjoyed myself, but saw only villarica, Valparaiso, and Santiago.

          • vorpal 😼

            LOL it sounds like you’ve seen more of Chile than I have, and I’ve lived here for 3.5 years now!

            (Hubby and I are complete homebodies. We travel when people come to visit us, or if we have a very specific vacation destination in mind. We do love living here for a number of reasons, though!)

          • zhera

            You already live in paradise, why go elsewhere? 😉

          • vorpal 😼

            It IS pretty awesome here… but Hawaii is the epitome of paradise. We want to end up back there should the US political system ever regain sanity.

          • zhera

            What’s the situation with dog shelters there? Too few and too crowded?
            Here in Norway there’s a very sharp line between stray cats and stray dogs. Cats are seen as able to care for themselves (they can’t) while dogs on the run/dogs who are dumped will be taken by the police/dog ‘jail’ immediately. If not claimed within a certain time period they’re adopted away or killed.
            Cats will be taking into shelters by private citizens/orgs. It’s a monumentous task and every summer they’re full.

            I’m guessing the reason for the strong control on stray dogs is that they can be dangerous, especially in packs.

          • vorpal 😼

            This is a really good question: I’m not sure that there even ARE state-funded animal shelters here in Chile. We don’t have state-funded fire departments, and the ones that exist are purely volunteer. They often consist of good citizens who simply care enough to step forward, and fund-raise for equipment that doesn’t suck (because they desperately need it) at gas stations.

            In Canada, it’s all across the board. Ottawa had a good humane society, whereas Toronto was completely nuts: if you wanted to volunteer to help out at the severely understaffed Toronto Humane Society, you had to be willing to pledge like 10+ hours a week without fail, and if you wanted to adopt a pet from their overcrowded facilities, you had to go through an extremely rigorous process that most people failed because they didn’t know the expected answers.

            All my future cats will always be strays / ferals / humane society adoptions. Apparently, it’s estimated that 1/3 of cats in rescues are black because so few people want black kitties. 🙁

          • zhera

            That’s a lot like in Norway. (Your first part)
            No state shelters except for the ones who cooperates with the police, I guess they’re not really state shelters, either.
            Volunteers are keeping things going, with counties contributing a little bit here and there. For instance, the shelter I’ve been working with rent a house from the county for cheap, and they get a tiny contribution.
            They do amazing work and have had a catch-neuter-release program for strays for years to counter the huge colonies popping up. It’s now going so great that the only new cats are from cats who are dumped/runaways.

            Adopting a cat from one of these shelters can be expensive, but it covers neuter, vaccines, medical treatment, food, and shelter. Follow-ups and help after adoption, also.

            If I ever get a pet again, it’ll be like yours: stray/feral/adopted. I have very strong feelings about pet abandonment/abuse. (as you know.) :-*

          • vorpal 😼

            Meant to add:

            What is the general attitude towards neutering dogs in Norway?

            In Canada, most people do, but here in Chile, many people refuse to do it, seeing it as inhumane.

          • zhera

            In general, I think a lot of people don’t want to neuter their dogs. It’s not seen as necessary and with the police/others picking up strays asap, it doesn’t become a big problem with stray dogs.

            Unfortunately, a lot of people are the same way with cats. Many think that cats need to have at least one litter before being neutered, for ’emotional sanity’ or some stupid shit like that.
            The result is that people get a kitten, don’t neuter it, dump it/let it be on its own during summer vacations, and the cats wander and breed.

            People will pay thousands of NOK for dogs but cats are seen as cheap/free pets who are low maintenance. Why spend money on neuter/chipping/vaccines, right? >:-[

        • ColdCountry

          ♥♥♥!

        • greenmanTN

          I posted another short video yesterday, Mr Tibbs (the black one) with his brother and sister.

          https://youtu.be/_Sd1lLaKEqg

        • FAEN

          All I can say if i lived there on my exit I would have to figure out how to transport the at least 12 dogs with me lol.

      • SFBruce

        That kitten is so lucky to have stumbled across you and your hubby. Thanks for taking care of him or her, and the best of luck to that wonderful little creature.

      • CanuckDon

        Awwww….that little guy resembles these four little buggers that I ended up fostering a few years ago. It was a pretty cool story that happened.
        https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8915aca079256bc8101b0b3e0e23bb536ed36a75de651ea4a7f31b06f29cabe7.jpg

        The mother was a stray that roamed around my place for a few weeks. Unbeknownst to me, she gave birth in my neighbour’s backyard who came over and mentioned to me that “your cat” had a litter. I knew I had to do something.

        I phoned a cat rescue group and talked to the organizer (one of the sweetest, funniest women that I’ve ever met). She encouraged me to somehow bring the litter onto my property and asked if I could keep them while they found homes. As we discussed just how I was going to get them all to my place, I looked out my back patio doors and said to her “it looks like I don’t have to worry about this”. There was the mother making her way through the wood fence bringing each kitten one by one into my backyard and placing them by my shed.

        • Joe in PA

          Dang, a big pile of cute right there. It almost looks like two sets of twins. I love seeing mamma cats carrying kitties. Amazing that they don’t hurt them. 🙂

      • Ben in Oakland

        I truly hate that people do this to animals– just abandon them. Thanks for doing it,
        .

        • CB

          Many years ago I represented Gaines Dog Food for PR. We had a very successful initiative placing puppies that had been driven away from a home and left by the side of the road because they weren’t “cute” any more. Shocking as this seems, and it is, we were pretty successful at rescuing and finding new homes for these dogs through no kill shelters. It was great to have a corporate budget to do this kind of thing.

        • FAEN

          Yeah. I don’t believe in the death penalty but I make an exception for people who are cruel to animals and children.

    • Todd20036

      As someone who takes a medication that costs $20k a year, I’m glad I have Blue Cross/Blue Shield.
      I’m a civil servant.

    • kaydenpat

      That’s great to hear. You would bankrupt yourself if you lived in the US. Sigh.

      • vorpal 😼

        We were planning on moving back, but that’s becoming less and less appealing by the day, unfortunately. 🙁

        • kaydenpat

          I’d advise you to stay where you are because it’s a shame you have to come back under Trump. I’ve told my family abroad not to visit me here during his time in office. Good luck. Sigh.

    • TCinBerkeley

      My ex’s stepfather fell on some ice and hit his head while in Paris and the ambulance came and he was taken to the hospital and he paid nothing for it. This was about 10 years ago and at the time I was having to go to the emergency room for basic healthcare (I was a temporary employee at the time).

      The difference made it difficult not to be embittered, especially with everyone constantly talking about how the US is the richest country in the world, yada yada, exceptional, etc.

      • vorpal 😼

        Even though I have dual US – CA citizenship, I grew up almost all of my life in Canada.

        The culture shock when moving from CA to DC was far greater than the culture shock when moving from CA to Chile.

        The southern / borderline southern US is really a very, very strange anomaly when it comes to first world countries. I remember walking around the National Mall and meeting delightful families of deep southerners who immediately gave me the impression that they thought I was somehow “slow” or “uncivilized”, being one of them Canadians, despite the fact that I had just finished my MSc comp sci and I doubt most of them had anything more than a high school diploma.

        American exceptionalism runs strangely deep.

        • TCinBerkeley

          When it comes to health care, I always say to friends & coworkers “I wonder what life is like in a first world country.” Because what we have here now is definitely not first world.

  • Ragnar Lothbrok
    • Halou

      Freedom to purchase health insurance across state lines? Because if this was done a few years ago the Republicans would be wailing about Obama infringing on the rights of the states to have their own laws and blah, blah, blah. Naturally, the “marketplace”, if the lives of Americans can be considered a commodity to be bought and sold. will be flooded by cheap and poorly regulated Confederate garbage afflicting people all across the nation.

      • Silver Badger

        The insurance industry is regulated on a state to state basis. States make a large part of their income from premium taxes. This order would seem to remove any over site at a local level.

        • canoebum

          States also regulate insurers by registering them to do business in that state, with each plan offered subject to approval. I suspect there will be many states which will not certify these cheapo plans to do business. Cross-state plans will only be available in Red State country.

          • Silver Badger

            Any rate increases must be approved by the state as well.

      • kanehau

        And you can bet that ‘gay’ is a pre-existing condition.

        • Xuuths

          Well, technically.

      • The_Wretched

        It’ll be a race to the bottom and there will be merger mania in the health care sector. If you thought the insurers were deaf before to customer complaints, now they’ll be 12 States away and not even answerable to the State regulators.

  • Sam_Handwich
  • Halou

    Trump is so fast to take executive action on a bill to kill Americans, straight away issuing guidance on how best to accomplish this feat?

    Meanwhile, Senators from both parties are protesting Trump’s lack of action with regard to the bipartisan sanctions bill that was passed into law months ago, the regulatory guidance that was supposed to have been issued by October 1st but has still not even been considered by the precedent.
    https://www.rferl.org/a/senators-russia-sanctions-trump/28787314.html

    • geoffalnutt

      Putin wants to kill Americans, too. What a coincidence!!

  • Ragnar Lothbrok

    His base :
    – Yay ! He is saving us money !
    – Wait, my insurance doesn’t cover my diabetes, or wife’s breast cancer.

    -That dammed Obama!!

    • Joe in PA

      I just typed something similar…they always find a way to blame Obama. 🙁

    • Goodboy
      • Todd20036

        Um… what?

        • Joe in PA

          THAT’S all you got to say? Sheesh, you must not be feeling well today. 🙁

        • ColdCountry

          Probably thought he’d smash through, like that’s a better idea….

      • Tawreos

        He could jump into my bed like that. He is probably still going to be sore in the same place, but without the broken tailbone.

        • Ragnar Lothbrok

          You must have a really firm mattress.

        • Dale Snyder

          You are such a slut.

          Come sit by me.

      • kaydenpat

        Ouch!!

        • Goodboy

          The joys of youth:-(

    • BlindBill

      Their churches will help them out ….. Isn’t that why religions get tax free income to do good work …. Or is the church’s good work now done in the form of political contributions?

      • William

        Churches good works these days consist of homes in gated communities and “prayer cabins” in Vail or Aspen.

      • kaydenpat

        Joel Osteen only helped a few hurricane survivors in Houston after being shamed on twitter. I wouldn’t hold my breath for churches to help anyone out except the Pastors.

      • FAEN

        Do you remember when Eric Cantor said that to a woman who had cancer? I’ll never forget his response to her question of what she should do now that she had cancer if the ACA was taken away-“sell everything you own, ask your neighbors and church for help.” Like EVERYONE has 500k laying around.

        Appalling.

        • vorpal 😼

          It also assumes you live in a rural community where your neighbors might give a damn about you (unlike, say, an urban area where they probably barely even know your name) and that you’re part of a religious community.

          My measure of success of a society is how well they take care of their most unfortunate, which should be done by the state and not by the whim of religious organizations.

          • FAEN

            Exactly! And it’s not like Cantor was going to ask his neighbors for help if he had cancer-he’d just use the best medical care which he has access to.

    • FAEN

      “Trump got rid of Obamacare-YEAH! I still have the ACA so I’m good.”

  • Leo

    I’m going on the presumption this will be challenged, no?

    • David L. Caster

      Almost certainly.

  • I was just listening to someone on MSNBC who said this will probably not have that much of an impact. All it will do is let small businesses band together and offer some plans across state lines – but actual Marketplace signups are going to be impacted far more negatively by other Trump shithead moves. For example, for the signup period open on November 1 —
    – There will be no extension beyond December 15 for the first time. In prior years, additional time was granted. For those of us who ran into technical glitches, we could lose our ability to be covered if we run out of time to reconcile issues.
    -They announced the help desks will be closed on Sundays.
    -There is no advertising this year.
    Note – For those of you who have a Marketplace plan (I have one with Blue Cross in Florida), with the Federal Exchange, you will need to reapply starting on November 1 — go into your account now and check to see if there is a letter telling you of the process you will have to go through starting then. I just found mine (dated October 5) yesterday.

  • Lizard

    Hey remember when GOP congresscritters were hysterically screaming about Obama being a dictator for doing stuff like this with executive orders because they had stonewalled all attempts from Dems to compromise?

    • Wesinoregon

      And how he was the divider in chief.

      • Lizard

        Now they can’t even push through a bill they wouldn’t let Dems contribute to when they control both House and Senate.

  • BlindBill

    #fuckingmoron Nothing more needs be said

    • Daveed_WOW

      He’s not actually a moron. He’s evil. Stupidity is not the fault of the stupid. He is deliberately hurting people for the sheer pleasure of hurting people. Evil.

      • Ragnar Lothbrok

        HE is both

  • TheGrandWazoo2
    • William

      4. Die quietly, out of view.

      • bzrd

        right, dig a hole in your backyard, bring covers, climb in and pull over the covers
        but don’t stink up the backyard

    • Hue-Man

      I like “Hurry up and die”.

  • Halou

    Waaaahhh!! I want a tax cut and I want it now, now, now, now, now. Where is my tax cut, daddy!?
    https://tommyboland.files.wordpress.com/2015/11/inpatience.jpg

  • Halou

    Will this EO face a legal challenge?

    • The_Wretched

      Undoubtably. It’s very clear that this EO is structured to cause the ACA to either fail or have huge increases in premiums so they get the political will to kill it.

    • Ken M

      After all the fun they had with ACA, I’m sure SCOTUS is rolling their eyes already.

  • Friday

    Why Republicans are in such a damn hurry to throw money at insurance that won’t actually cover anything, I dunno. “This complete waste of money was on *sale.* ” Duh.

    • William

      My partner works for a small business, owned by a rabidly republican couple. This year they offered insurance to employees. He joined in January and has money taken out of his check every month. He has yet to receive one piece of paper with any information on the policy. He does not have an insurance card. All he has been told is that it is Blue Cross Blue Shield.

      • PickyPecker

        Hmmm….something is very wrong with that.

      • canoebum

        Your partner is being ripped off. Payroll deductions must be used for the purposes for which they are made. Call a lawyer.

        • William

          He called the owner to tell her he wanted out of the ‘health plan’. She said she would fax over a disenrollment form. It never arrived.

          • Daveed_WOW

            Don’t contact the owner again. Contact a lawyer and let them handle it.

          • canoebum

            That’s because she spent his money on her new Lexus. If you don’t want to call a lawyer, at least file a complaint with the state.

          • William

            He said he would try to talk to her again. She’s at that ‘her own private summer’ stage of life and can be erratic from one day to the next.

            If not, the state insurance agency would be the place to call.

          • canoebum

            People go to prison for this crap every day. It’s called fraud. If she had actually purchased an insurance plan for the employees, the insurance company would have sent the materials right away. She never bought a plan.

      • Daveed_WOW

        My father had this crap pulled on him for years. Call a lawyer and hit the employer with everything you’ve got. That’s fraud.

        • William

          He would like to keep the job.

          • Karl Dubhe

            No. He really doesn’t. The employer is a crook, and will likely pull more crooked stunts before your partner finally does have enough of it. 🙁

          • Ken M

            Does he have any coworkers he feels he can confide in to see if they are in a similar situation? Doesn’t need to be a deep conversation…”Hey Bill, I was just wondering, did you ever get your health insurance card?” Simple yes or no question.

          • William

            Several already get insurance through spouses who work for local government. One guy I know of might be under the same policy.

          • Ken M

            I would suggest simply asking him before he tries going through the boss again. Like I suggested, keep it simple. If the answer is yes, he received, your partner can ask him for the customer service number on it. ” I misplaced mine Bill, can I get that number, Thanks.” End of a simple conversation. Hope all goes well.

          • Daveed_WOW

            He’s not getting paid.

      • jerry

        Or, depending on the state, the state’s Division of Labor handles complaints about payroll deductions…or the state’s Attorney General. Because if the payroll deductions are not being paid in for their stated purpose, it’s fraud.

      • stuckinthewoods

        You didn’t say if any other employee had received documentation. If none other has, partner might check other deductions. I’ve worked for one who didn’t pay deducted employment taxes, one who made an IRA contribution for his associate into an account with my name, then claimed I should pay the penalty for withdrawal because it was somehow my fault. Your partner has reason to be wary.

    • 2guysnamedjoe

      I’ll answer your question with another question:
      Who is the money being thrown at?

    • Daveed_WOW

      Republican are throwing money at insurance companies who LOVE to eliminate risky clients. You’re welcome Kaiser Permanente! Love, America.

    • canoebum

      At the very base level, Republicans believe we’re all on our own, there is no “United” States, and healthcare is for people who can afford to pay for it. The idea that we form some kind of society that works together to solve problems (i.e. “promote the General Welfare”) is ridiculous. It’s everyone for themselves. Everybody into the pool! If you happen to end up in the deep end and don’t know how to swim…well, sucks to be you, doesn’t it?

    • Hue-Man

      Because they’ll get part of those insurance premiums back from the insurance companies as “campaign contributions”.

  • Ragnar Lothbrok
  • JWC

    If he can’t kill ACA then he will cripple it as much as he can

  • Uncle Mark

    Junk President approves junk insurance

  • BlindBill

    Trump health insurance* …it will be the best insurance you ever had ….. Can’t pay the yearly premium? No problem, we offer easy weekly payments with low interest rate of 25% over prime.

    *in the event that a claim is made, the policy will be canceled. Be healthy, be very healthy.

    #fuckingmoron

  • gaycuckhubby
    • Ben in Oakland

      Puerto Rico is full of Catholics, and Texas is not?

      • William

        Republican votes in Texas count. Puerto Ricans can’t vote in the presidential election.

        • Ragnar Lothbrok

          Unless they move or even travel to the states

      • Tomcat

        Brown ones!

        • Ben in Oakland

          Well, that’s true. But I was referring actually to PR not being full of not-Catholics. Texas is full of fundelibangelists.

  • sfjohn

    every.single. one of these needs to be rescinded once the Criminal-in-Chief is behind bars

  • Vira

    These policies will no more provide health coverage than Trump University provided education. Utterly fraudulent.

  • Tawreos
    • Tomcat

      He should be happy today then.

  • kanehau

    And here we go…

  • kaydenpat

    I don’t even know what to say. This is awful. So many Americans are going to suffer the consequences of this man’s election.

  • Ragnar Lothbrok

    Just started :
    Good morning White People!

  • Lazycrockett

    You know your EO sucks when Rand Paul comes to the Podium.

  • Hank

    If Rand Paul and Mike Pence are in favor of this, then it CANNOT be GOOD for PEOPLE!!!

  • kanehau

    Fuckface Pence lick’n Trumps ass.

  • kanehau

    And Trump gives us the perfect Grinch smile.

    • Hank

      the minute he was introduced, I muted my TV!!!!…. and am back to my computer!

      • William

        We have the ‘cross channel quadraphonic flip off’ down.

      • Ken M

        And here I thought he didn’t like Media attention. Well, it may not be entirely “fake,” he did sign it and all. An order that states a promise has been made to make changes, is just that, a promise. Safe to say, we all know the validity of Trump’s promises.

    • PickyPecker
      • kanehau

        Yup… that’s the one.

  • HAAAAAAA

    And in another world not so far away….
    An Italian woman has won a legal battle for sick pay for time she took off work to look after her dog. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-41594224
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ea4e12d529d352db99e59b04605d8d1c5b1dbb8c3ce3398606e54b1e32f8fd8b.jpg

    • Why is he wearing that horrid collar?

      • David Gervais

        It’s so he can’t lick or bite at the injured area.

  • 5moreminutes*imtired

    But her emails!!!!!

  • Hank

    Lock HIM Up!!!! Lock HIM Up!!!

  • kanehau

    I’m so great. You will get the BEST insurance. Almost FREE. Amazing. Kiss my ring!

  • KnownDonorDad

    Isn’t adopting a policy that hurts older people a bad strategy for a GOP administration? Odd….

    • Halou

      Campaign donors are kings.

      • Hue-Man

        “The best government money can buy.”

  • Ken M

    Oh wait…there is a black person there.

  • joe ho

    Don’t worry. Bernie and Slurandon will use all those $27 donations to cover anything that isn’t covered.

  • Ragnar Lothbrok
    • kanehau

      But now we’ll only hear how Trump has fixed health care in America.

    • Tomcat

      He also said yesterday it would give health care to EVERYONE, it does NOT.

  • Bryan

    Wait, is “the nightmare of Obamacare” a drinking game?

  • Lazycrockett

    POS forgot to sign it till he was reminded.

    • kanehau

      These EO thingies are SO complex.

  • Tomcat

    Once he destroys Obamacare look out Medicare, medicaid and VA health care.
    This guy hates Americans BIGLY.

  • The day Trump stops being President is probably going to be the happiest day of my life. I say probably because these other days could happen too —
    — I win a 10 million dollar lotto jackpot
    — Trump drops dead while in office
    — I take a walk in downtown Palm Beach and Prince Harry picks me up and has a weekend of wild anonymous sex with me as a last “wild fling” before he gets married to Meghan Markle — and I am given an expense paid trip to London and a great seat to watch the wedding at Westminster Abbey as a thank-you.

    • kanehau

      Everything’s fine except that last one… Prince Harry belongs to my SO.

    • Rex

      Goals.

  • Rex

    His signature should make this officially “Trumpcare” .

  • HZ81

    I’m really ashamed to be an American AGAIn today. I don’t think I’ll ever feel better about being one again.

  • Mike C

    Awesome. Now the Free Marketeers who cried and cried about their $3000 deductibles can go back to enjoying $10,000 deductibles and $75,000 lifetime limits, all at the same premium cost. This should kill off the Republicans and this presidency (but probably won’t)

  • Tomcat

    Never admit to a preexisting illness, make them prove you had one.

    • Snarkaholic

      Is there a central database, where all of your medical history is entered by the doctors you visit?

      • Tomcat

        Ask the Russians!

      • ultragreen

        I don’t know if there is a central database, but private insurance companies share the medical histories of their clients with each other all of the time.

  • MBear

    I wonder if this affects the parts of the ACA that Congress all voted for themselves to keep? or something like that

    Really: the buttons have been pushed for revolution, but I guess the sofas are terribly comfortable.

    • Tomcat

      You can be sure Congress will pass some actual GREAT healthcare for themselves.

      • MBear

        so oligarchy

  • Tomcat

    This is ALL so we will have to accept ANYTHING better that Congress passes.
    All he wanted was to destroy Obama’s bills. Vindictive to the end.

  • Tomcat

    This is like going grocery shopping and throwing it in the trash without eating it.

  • downtownla

    Sorry, Trump, you can try to undo all the work that Obama did, but you can’t change the fact, American once had an African American President.

    • Hank

      and a President who CARED about people!!!

      • paganguy

        And will ALWAYS be remembered as a better President than the orange turd.

  • Tomcat

    Trump insurance will be sold by PAYDAY LOAN, bring your car title.

  • Tomcat

    I predict someone will kill this POS.

    • M Jackson

      I already have, hundreds of times. Actually, it’s now his supporters who need to die.

  • bambinoitaliano
    • William

      Not enough chins.

  • Ken M

    The Federal Budget is already on extension. Most economists feel till 12/15. Trump has that long to threaten Congress to get what he wants; as well as making them take the blame for anything that should happen if a shutdown does take place. His threats regarding PR simply say, “Give me what I want, and I’ll give you what you want.” So far his biggest threats involve getting his tax cuts, and money for his Wall,(seems that isn’t dead yet.) I remember a GOP Congress coming to Bill Clinton with threats to close the Government. His reaction was basically, “Shut it down, it will be on you anyway.” Congress came back 3 times before Clinton agreed to sign the budget Trump can get away with this, or Congress can start putting some threats of their own on the table.

    • Ben in Oakland

      Congress doing its job isn’t going to happen.

      • Ken M

        If it’s their heads rolling, or his, anything is possible. Despite what all the media claims, they will join forces against them if they see their own jobs are on the lines. Keep in mind, if they don’t do something, they too have another 3 years (at least) of him to deal with. Pence is certainly no angel, but at least he has an understanding of the checks and balances needed to run the Govt.

  • ultragreen

    It’s difficult to evaluate this executive order without knowing all of the details. Health insurance markets in the US and the regulations that govern them are very complicated. In addition to Federal regulations, there are even more state regulations governing health insurance coverage. This means that the impact of this executive order could vary from one state to the next. For example, some states may already require most of the health services that were required under Obama Care.

  • BearEyes

    Joy’s comment is spot on.

  • Talisman

    Fucking evil moron, part II.

  • andrew

    Trump “The Destroyer” needs to be stopped before he destroys the world.

  • Johnny Wyeknot

    Once again he wanders off forgetting to sign the damn Order.

  • Tomcat

    This pretend presidenting is just too easy for the shitgibbons.

  • safari

    Friday is going to be a hoot, I’m guessing.

    • vorpal 😼

      I never know whether to pop popcorn or put a rubber nipple on a bottle of red wine and assume fetal position.

      • paganguy

        Why choose?

    • Ken M

      His FRC speech is tomorrow.

  • greenmanTN

    Good lord, every day it’s just more and more and more until you’re overwhelmed, depressed and anxious and it’s hard to see a time when it won’t be like this. I’m not going into details but when there are things on the personal/financial front too that are… difficult, everything is magnified, that much worse. Don’t worry, things aren’t quite as bad as that might sound, this is just a scream of anger and frustration at the seeming endlessness of it all. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/08332af9cf0fc01b6d790cef9729671829d8468b2e70f0ce97adce643ac78a57.jpg

    • bzrd

      ouch

  • DesertSun59

    45 doesn’t want to and will never defend the right of people to have decent health care.

  • Skokieguy [Larry]

    BTW, per HuffPo:

    For the second time this year, President Donald Trump tried to leave an executive order signing ceremony before he actually signed the order.

    On Thursday, the president finished his remarks about an executive order he was about to sign that would weaken key insurance regulations of the Affordable Care Act. He then started shaking hands with people inthe room and started walking definitively toward the exit.

    At that point, Vice President Mike Pence had to walk over to him, tap him on the arm, and remind him that he still needed to sign the executive order.

    • zhera

      Fuck Pence!

    • Ann Kah

      Did you see Pence’s lips move as he spelled Donald’s name for him?

  • Professor Barnhardt

    The action starts at 43:46. The first speaker is Alexander Acosta, the Secretary of Labor. I’m not sure why DOL is getting involved in “considering ways to deliver quality affordable health care to the American workforce.”

    Avoid the dead airtime by going here:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMOC1KJPToY

    OSHA accident information used to be available at the OSHA website, https://www.osha.gov. Not anymore. To see that information, go to ex-OSHA official Jordan Barab’s website:

    http://jordanbarab.com/confinedspace/

  • joe ho

    All those too lazy or too righteous to vote for Hillary in the general election, this one’s for you. Well played! Well played!

  • Barry William Teske

    How low can #45 go?
    I bet his HATE impairment knows…

  • He is the Destroyer in Chief – he will do what he wants, the country be damned.

  • Mike

    Do executive orders mean that all that time when we had Democratic presidents, we could have had nice things like other people, despite a Republican congress and Supreme Court? Is checks and balances really only a thing that people say? My eyes have been opened. Who know that our Constitution gave absolute power to whatever authoritarian maniac managed to con his way in. Let’s tear down the statues the the Founding dooshbags who made Trump possible.

  • TexasBoy

    My area had exactly ONE available Obamacare plan…ONE…and I received a letter from Blue Cross/Blue Shield that that will be changing…so this I’m sure is the nail in the coffin for me having health insurance.

  • TheManicMechanic

    If this would only result in a lot of sick and dying hillbillies that voted for Trump in the first place, I’d say no problem.

  • Jean-Marc in Canada

    “…and with a literal stroke of a pen, President Donald J. Trump had sentenced countless American citizens to their deaths. At the time, the complicit Republicans believed it would only raise premiums and thus create more profit while allowing Americans to still have access to healthcare. No deaths were anticipated because, as always, Republicans didn’t believe anyone was actually poor, just lazy. Of course, as with all things republican, it resulted in what would be one of the greatest mass killings in U.S. history. Over 89,000 alone died in 2018 and over 200,000 the following year. It would come to be known as the “Great Betrayal” which would lead to the most turbulent era in U.S. history since the civil war” — from ‘And Nero Smiled: The Complete History of the Trump Era”, published July 13, 2027

  • JCF

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/3cd2e0a77f3cb90a42f2cf3556cf3949df43316c410ad69178a1f03a9ef8986b.jpg

    FWIW, I’d be much more panicked about this if 1) it affected Medicaid and 2) if I didn’t think it’ll get thrown out in court!

  • Matt

    Hopefully lawsuits can stop this or at least slow it down until the idiot is removed from office. What a bastard.

  • Richard

    It’s a real shame what a minority of voters have done to this country by voting for trump and voting for Republicans …a real shame !

  • Gianni

    Donnie has repeatedly said that Obamacare is a disaster and going to implode so he now is setting about making that prediction come true with a little help from himself. We love you, Donnie.