AUSTRALIA: Anglican Church Donates $1M To Anti-Gay Marriage Group, Liberal Reverends Issue Protests

The Sydney Morning Herald reports:

Several Sydney clerics are in revolt over the Anglican Church’s decision to donate $1 million to the “no” campaign on same-sex marriage, declaring themselves shattered and disappointed. Archbishop Glenn Davies revealed the donation at the opening of the 51st Synod on Monday, declaring same-sex marriage “unwarranted”. “The stakes are high and the cost is high,” he said.

Rebel clergy in Sydney were openly fuming about the decision on Tuesday, pointing to diverse views among Anglicans on same-sex marriage, and other social issues on which the money could have been spent.Β  “I’m shattered,” said Reverend Dave Smith, parish priest at Holy Trinity in Dulwich Hill. “I think there’s a degree of shock [among the congregation]. I think they are taking it pretty hard.”

St James’ rector Father Andrew Sempell was so enraged by the decision he wrote a paper in response to Archbishop Davies, which he hopes to present at the ongoing Synod. Father Sempell also cited the poor financial management of the diocese in recent years, which saw its assets crumble amid the global financial crisis. “They did everything wrong that you could possibly do,” he said. “Which sort of begs the question: why are they throwing money around like this?”

  • m_lp_ql_m

    “Rebel clergy”? What does that even mean? Either get with the propaganda or don’t!

  • Goodboy

    Been great if we had something like that here. You know those American Nalts. Things like Prop 8, West Baptist Church, etc. Crickets the entire time.

  • Tawdry D’Tails

    Religion has always had problems with irony. And hypocrisy of course.

  • 2guysnamedjoe

    Does the Anglican Church receive any funding from the Australian government ?

  • Joe in PA

    Go ahead anyone, defend “religion”. And you don’t get to use the “at least we aren’t throwing gays off of buildings” defense.

    Dang, I stop in here for two secs and I see this. Arrrrgh.

    • Bert_Bauer

      I always ask conservatives who play that card why they are using the bad behavior of radical Islamists to excuse their own bad behavior … And you know they are envious that they can’t get away with the same genocidal shut here.

      • dagobarbz, fine Italian shoes

        If they lived in a theocracy they could. They’re working on that in the US nowadays.

      • Librarykid

        and if radical Islamists could lead the life that most of the infidels lead, they would not give two hoots in hell about their current dogma.

  • Sam_Handwich
  • LovesIrony

    How does my marriage effect your fucking faith?

    • m_lp_ql_m

      But… but… “the stakes are high”!

      • LovesIrony

        The stakes were high when they burned “witches” on them.

        • Todd20036

          Mmmm. Steak.

        • (((GC)))

          “She turned me into a newt!
          (I got better.)”

      • Ragnar Lothbrok

        Some steaks are $12.99 / lb

      • Gerry Fisher

        Drama queen

    • Todd20036

      My fucking faith is eschewed if you take hot guys out of the social scene….
      Oh, you weren’t being that literal.
      Never mind.

      • (((GC)))

        So all marriages must be open marriages, or something? πŸ™‚

  • bkmn

    I guess they have fed all the hungry, housed all the homeless and done all the other good works they are supposed to do and yet still have an extra million laying around to toss to the haterz.

    • Goodboy

      Kind of like NOM. Turned out it was mostly funded by the Catholic Church.

    • Librarykid

      to toss to the other haterz. Just had to fix that for you. Hope you don’t mind.

  • Treant

    Then those objecting clergy really need to leave if they feel strongly that way.

    Oh, wait, that’s hard and they can’t? I see. Paychecks are involved. Gotcha.

    Typical. And they’ll still take the collection on Sunday.

    • Cackalaquiano

      So members need to leave in droves

      • Treant

        I’m sure they’ll get right on that. “But my clergyman is great,” they say, tossing a tenner on the plate, “He doesn’t support marriage inequality and neither do I!”

        • David Walker

          Why would you want to toss a tenor on the plate?

          • Treant

            I’ve tossed a tenor or three on the bed, so why not on the plate?

            Although I have to say, I prefer baritones or deeper. Tenors…the poor dears squeak so when you fuck them.

          • David Walker

            You noticed. Maybe more lube would take care of the squeak. 3-in-1 works wonders.

      • dagobarbz, fine Italian shoes

        That seems to be happening a lot these days. Even my mother’s Presbyterian church…only 14 people attended last Sunday, according to her.

        • Librarykid

          See, there’s hope!

      • Librarykid

        or just stop contributing to the delinquency of the society by giving financial support to the church.

      • Strepsi

        Some will leave in droves. Some will leave in taxis. Some will leave in a huff. Some will leave in a minute and a huff.

  • bambinoitaliano

    Tax the fucking churches and their employees already!!!!

    • UrsusArctos

      I’m OK with exemptions for sanctuaries from property tax, but not the crap mega-churches have added to those buildings such as food courts. Everything else is commercial and should be treated as such.

      • bambinoitaliano

        Absolutely not! It’s a business operation nothing less. There should be no hiding of revenue to avoid taxes.

        • UrsusArctos

          Notice I said property tax. Not sales tax, not corporate income tax. I’m areligious and think most churches as they have morphed into PACs are a cancer on the state. I also understand that those sanctuaries were built with tax deductible contributions. Taxing them on that property would in effect give them even more subsidy. Giving the “churches” a pass on property tax on sanctuaries ONLY forces them to declare all income instead of claiming they’re using it for “taxes”, since property taxes are based on comparable valued structures it would be very easy to bust corruption.

      • WitlessProtection

        Wrong. They use public services basically for FREE! Fire protection, police protection, roads, and all other infrastructure and don’t pay a damned dime for it and then raise holy hell when someone claims they are not entitled to a say in the government…bah. Fuck the church.

        • (((GC)))

          I’m OK with treating churches just like other nonprofits.

          Meaning that they’ll have to file Form 990, and reveal how much money they get, and from whom, and where it’s going.

  • Adam King

    Churches are evil, and anyone who remains a member is complicit.

  • Sam_Handwich
    • bobbleobble

      You can’t vote online. Every registered voter has been sent a ballot in the mail and has to return it via the mail to the Australian Bureau of Statistics. I’m not sure what Mother Jones voted in but it certainly wasn’t the referendum.

  • AmeriCanadian

    The tweets are priceless. I hope they get retweeted millions of times and aired on the various media.

  • crewman

    So here’s the truth. The Bible/Christianity was written/invented ~1.8 thousand years ago, assembled from stories invented by men many centuries before that. At their best, those stories were meant to protect people and align them in common rules to make their societies stronger.

    They were most likely written by the kind of people who want to create a rule or process to deal with every little issue that comes up, and who want to ensure every rule is followed. They were probably the kind of people who live in constant fear, and who try to manage that fear by controlling everything. The only way to control everything is to also make sure you follow all the rules, so their rules have very strong deterrents. Extreme punishments for all infractions. That fear-based person who wants to invent and enforce rules is not an uncommon personality type. Maybe you know or have worked with people like that.

    Thousands of years have passed since those stories were created, and we know a lot more about the world. The world wasn’t created in 7 days. Man wasn’t created in an instant, with woman being created after-the-fact from a rib. Evolution provides a remarkably testable and strong explanation for how humans emerged. There is no evidence for a global flood that annihilated the gene pool of all humans and all animals except for those contained on a single boat.

    And gay people exist. All evidence supports the idea that we are just born that way. And contrary to biblical claims, “gay” isn’t just a behavior indicating a moral failing, it’s just an innate attraction to the same sex.

    The church is stuck in trying to assert that it speaks for an unerring truth, and gay people present a real problem for them. The church is afraid that if it admits it was wrong on anything, the whole charade will be revealed. So it needs to insist that “gay” is just a behavior, not an identity. It needs to insist that the death penalty the Bible lays out for gay behavior is not barbaric, disgusting, and immoral, but justified. By our very existence, gay people hold an inconvenient mirror the the face of the church.

    • Robincho

      “Flee at once! All is discovered!”…

      • kelven

        Where is this quote from? I’m curious.

        • Rob NYNY
        • 2patricius2

          Google it. I did, and found it attributed to Mark Twain, and another version attributed to Edgar Allan Poe, and another to Arthur Conan Doyle. So, maybe it is anyone’s guess.

          • edrex

            reductio ad twainium.

          • John30013

            I think you have to thrust your magic wand in the direction you want to cast that spell.

          • edrex

            maybe after work.

        • Robincho

          P. G. Wodehouse for sure, possibly also Edward Gorey…

          • (((GC)))

            So, the long-lived and prolific Ann Onymous may have had a hand in it…

    • clay

      But these are Anglicans; they don’t give a shit about the Bible.

      • David Walker

        You may be confusing them with Southern Baptists.

        • Librarykid

          They just can’t read the Bible.

      • JCF

        Anglicans don’t give a shit about “Biblical literalism” (which is neither Biblical OR literal)…

        …except the hierarchy of the Archdiocese of Sydney, where they do.

        • Ivan T. Errible

          How about remaining over 90% white and middle/upper middle class? How do they feel about that?

    • bambinoitaliano

      It’s the only government sanction sadistic and masochistic club.

      • The_Wretched

        The S&M community has better ethics and morals than the churches.

        • Librarykid

          but they play the same game.

          • The_Wretched

            not exactly

          • PeedeResistance

            HARDLY.

        • (((GC)))

          Churches often don’t quite understand “safe, sane, and consensual.”

          • The_Wretched

            Local community is getting into barbed wire suspensions. It’s risky but a bit of a party trick if you know what you’re doing.

          • (((GC)))

            This vanilla guy will pass, thanks.

    • 2patricius2

      Got to appease the god(s) lest they willy-nilly send some kind of punishment and devastation your way. And got to blame all the misfortunes and sorrows in life on some scapegoats, so one doesn’t have to face reality.

      • barracks9

        It’s the distinct line they draw, about how gawd sends “tests” to his faithful, and “punishments” to the sinful heathens.

        • Librarykid

          But their deity’s aim seems to be very bad, almost an abomination.

    • CottonBlimp

      The only thing I’d add to this is that probably none of the Bible was actually written with a specific intent. Think of it more like evolution; cheetahs don’t run fast because they decided to, but because all the slow cheetahs didn’t survive.

      Religion is just a composite of very successful ideas. Ideas can be successful for all kinds of different reasons; they can pander to our hopes, like the belief in an afterlife. They can pander to our prejudices, like homophobia. And ideas can also be successful if they’re simply useful to powerful people, which is why every religion, at its heart, is authoritarian. And sometimes ideas are successful because they’re actually good ideas, so there’s even a little of that in the Bible too.

      Successful ideas get passed down through generations until they’re so popular that they get written down and added into a belief system, that uses all those popular ideas to support the ruling regime and whatever monstrous evil it wants to commit.

  • teedofftaxpayer

    They’re against same sex marriages because they need the hate sermon every week to rile up the faithfuls.

    • bambinoitaliano

      The only time haters would part with their money.

      • LeeCMH

        Ah, the crux of the purpose of the Christian church.

  • Gustav2

    What? You mean the Anglican Church is not a democracy? Who knew?

  • clay

    This is what happens when you get rid of the pope, but still keep the bishops.

    • edrex

      and the dresses.

    • doninkansas

      Sydney Anglicans are an anomaly in Anglicanism. They have more in common with American evangelicals than most of world Anglicanism. Outside of Sidney and some parts of the English Church, most of world Anglicanism is Catholic light. The ones in most of Africa. Asia and South America are very conservative. The ones in Europe, North America and South Africa tend to more theologically liberal. This is why world Anglicanism is always on the brink of a split.

      • Ivan T. Errible

        So basically Unitarians in drag? The English-speaking world’s version of Shinto?

      • CottonBlimp

        In other words, the Anglican church just goes along with whatever makes them popular?

        And these people claim to be moral guides.

  • Yalma Cuder-Zicci

    If you believe in the Christian God and that he speaks to you through signs, this is God’s way of telling these clerics and unhappy congregants that the Anglican Church is not where they need to be. Time to shop around for a church that really fits their beliefs.

  • Gustav2

    Religious attendance. According to the National Church Life Survey, between 1950 and 2007 monthly church attendance declined from 44% to 17%. A 2009 Christian Research Association survey of 1,718 Australians found that 16% attended a religious service at least once a month, down from 23% in 1993.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irreligion_in_Australia

    • Hue-Man
      • Treant

        “Say.”

        Stand me next to a rabid Fundamentalist whose approval I require–such as an ex-boss of mine–and I’m a weekly churchgoer.

        Stand me next to my husband and you get the truth. I went last Christmas because my mother wanted to go. I could have cared less, but that would require effort and I was tired.

        • vorpal 😼

          My mom used to tell my brother and I – when we were in our 20s – that the one Christmas present we could give to our dad was to go to church with them on Christmas Eve and not make a stink about it.

          Now, about 15 years later, after all the bullshit that churches have pulled over LGBT people, my dad – who grew up extremely conservative Calvinist – doesn’t believe in Christianity anymore.

          • Treant

            Your dad sounds like he grew in wisdom as he aged. πŸ™‚

          • Craig Howell

            Grew in wisdom and in grace, as somebody once wrote about somebody else.

          • David Walker

            You taught him well.

        • Gustav2

          If you ask my in-laws’ neighbors down a country road, but close enough we can hear their vehicles start on a Sunday morning, they would “say” the same thing.

          But the pickups don’t start up until after 11:30 am, after the last church services in the area have already begun…

          because the nearest beer drive-thru opens at noon.

        • Hue-Man

          I haven’t been to church this century.

        • When my husbands mother would visit we’d go to church with her because we knew it made her happy. But the last time I went with her the reading that came up was about Sodom and Gomorrah. She physically tensed up next to me and had a hard time looking me in the eyes as we left church. Her reaction was enough to tell me that she understood exactly how offensive that crap and the homily that followed was.

          That was the last time I’ve attended church and she hasn’t said a word.

          Good riddance to religion.

      • Gustav2

        Pew has been wrong for decades. That “halo effect” is stronger in the US, in other words, people lie to strangers to look good.:

        “Even with a broader definition of church attendance, classifying a regular attendee as someone who shows up at least three out of every eight Sundays, only 23–25 percent of Americans would fit this category.”

        7 Startling Facts: An Up Close Look at Church Attendance in America

        https://churchleaders.com/pastors/pastor-articles/139575-7-startling-facts-an-up-close-look-at-church-attendance-in-america.html

    • The_Wretched

      Which is why they are targeting secular schools endlessly with unconstitutional programs. They need to get kids in the doors to reinflate the sheep/people to be fleeced.

  • Gigi

    Yet they couldn’t find $1.5 million to pay this victim of church sexual abuse.

    Anglican church failed to pay child sex abuse survivor agreed $1.5m settlement
    https://amp.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/sep/30/anglican-church-fails-to-pay-child-sex-abuse-survivor-agreed-15m-settlement

    • Todd20036

      Kiddie rape is ok. But others being happy is not.
      This is the main reason I shun organized religion. Individual preachers/rabbis may want to do good, but the organizations as a whole only want to control/profit/oppress.
      And I’ve better things to do with my kopeks.

  • bambinoitaliano

    These self deceiving delusional believers of sky fairies are donating to the churches to buy themselves a seat in the non existence heaven. Corruptors created this corrupting institution. Sounds familiar?

    • vorpal 😼

      (Random aside: loving that new avatar, bambinoitaliano!)

    • Ross

      Amen, baby. Amen!

    • Librarykid

      But the Bible says you can’t buy your way into heaven.

  • AtticusP

    Instead of feeding the hungry and housing the homeless, the Anglican church has chosen to waste $1 million on a hateful quest.

    Fuck religion.

    • bambinoitaliano

      It’s never the churches intention to do good for humanity. Religion is the oldest and original scam since the existence of humanity.

      • Librarykid

        Amen

    • Librarykid

      but religions do hate so well, what with claiming to be doing it for God, you know.

  • LeeCMH

    In Christianity, hatred reigns supreme.

  • Tiger Quinn

    Strange when your purpose is feeding the poor to spend a MILLION DOLLARS on something else.

  • joe ho

    The dead-jew-on-a-stick cult strikes again. Revolting as usual.

    • Treant

      I just say “Jewsicle.”

  • Bert_Bauer

    As I said when the papists and the Mormons raised $40 million to push Prop 8 in California, the Anglicans are certainly telling us a lot about their (warped) priorities. Every day organized religion becomes just a little more reprehensible.

    • Librarykid

      Remember how hard the religions fought disclosure of who gave what to support Prop 8 and then it was all for naught and they really had egg on their faces? It almost makes you think that they were going against God’s will.

    • Ivan T. Errible

      “Papists”?
      Do you call Jews “people of the Hebrew persusasion”? Or Muslims “Mohammadans”>

      • CottonBlimp

        Only in bed.

        • Ivan T. Errible

          Wow.

  • 2patricius2

    Marriage equality is such a danger to man/woman marriage. That is why man/woman marriage has disappeared in nations that have marriage equality.

    Hmm. It hasn’t? You mean all the dire warnings are just hot air? All those campaigns of lies, riling up hate towards lesbian and gay people were just based on bigotry? All that money thrown into campaigns to try to stop marriage equality was wasted?

  • JohnMyroro

    Religion — still poisoning everything.

  • SoCalGal20
  • TexasBoy

    Religion, the oldest mental illness.

  • easygoingmister

    May they all burn in the hell of their own religion. For eternity.

  • Bad Tom

    Archbishop Glenn Davies revealed the donation at the opening of the 51st Synod on Monday, declaring same-sex marriage β€œunwarranted”. β€œThe stakes are high and the cost is high,” he said.

    What cost? PLEASE BE SPECIFIC.
    ——-
    Revealing that your lies about gay people are LIES doesn’t cost us anything, Bub.

  • yes b’y
  • Karl Dubhe

    The last time I went to an Anglican Church was for my mum’s funeral.

    There’s not going to be a next time, as I’ll be cremated and scattered without a funeral. πŸ™‚

    • TimCA

      They don’t even have to bother to cremate me. Just set the body out with the rest of the compost on pick up day. Or bury it under a favorite tree. There’s a Ceiba pentandra somewhere in Central America reserved for my future presence.

      • yes b’y
        • TimCA

          I have one growing in my garden in Southern California. Alas never to reach the size and grandeur of those grown in the tropics.

    • Silver Badger

      My plans too. I consider funerals a complete waste of time and money.

      • Karl Dubhe

        A ‘family friend’ once advised me to spend 10$ grand on a funeral.

        I said no, but should have called him the dumbest lawyer I’ve ever met. (Dumber ones work for trump, so he’s not totally bad)

        • barracks9

          If I’m going to set aside any decent amount of money, it’ll be for a helluva party to celebrate my life, not for some tacky gilt coffin. And I’d much rather have all my ashes scattered, than be stored in an urn on someone’s mantle.

  • ByronK

    OT – A strange state of affairs when I had to double check to see if this is satire. You just don’t know these days.
    Trump Mocks Trudeau For Celebrating Thanksgiving β€˜6 Weeks Early’
    http://www.burrardstreetjournal.com/trump-mocks-trudeau-celebrating-thanksgiving-6-weeks-early/

    • Karl Dubhe

      Don’t mention that….

      I didn’t check the status of the satire site. πŸ™ Ooops.

    • Treant

      For a moment there…

  • TimCA

    O/T: For those interested in events transpiring in Spain:
    Carles Puigdemont is set to speak this hour before the Catalan regional parliament. He and other separatist members have previously indicated intent to unilaterally declare independence today. πŸ™

    • Karl Dubhe

      WTH, cry havoc and let slip the dogs of secessionism.

  • Ben in Oakland

    News alert: not enough starving children in world. More needed now!

  • madknits

    Divorced, beheaded, died,
    Divorced, beheaded, survived.
    Henry VIII only divorced two wives. Well, actually, he had the marriages annulled, as if they had never happened. That he also annulled the marriages of the wives he beheaded, is a moot point. Wife #3 died in childbirth, and wife #6 survived him, only to die in childbirth a few years later, whilst married to her fifth husband.

  • Jean-Marc in Canada

    WWJD? Apparently, he’d fuck the poor to stop two people from being in love. Yeah, that’s totes what he’d do.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1ab19c9f9f73d24fef8f2171a60ba1d544092947c6ce2eda3c99d45bcef0bd9e.jpg

  • Ben in Oakland

    The stakes are indeed high. If they lose, they lose power, credibility, and authority.

    • David Walker

      Please don’t burst their bubble by telling them they don’t have that much now. REAL power, credibility, and authority would be the church demanding the money be returned.

  • Bonobo

    TAX THE A$$HOLES

  • Ken M

    Once again I wonder, do these people know it’s 2017? After reviewing a rather lengthy list of rights for LGBT in Australia, this seems to be about all that’s left. All types of unions except marriage are respected. Marriages from other countries are recognized. EEOC equivalent exists, Adoption, not an issue, the list goes on. As was a major concern here, the church fears it will have nothing left to fight if this gets passed. At least nothing with any true faith based concerns. Their congregations know this is becoming almost an embarrassment for the country. Many/most know gay people at some level. One again, exposure to LGBT has proven to be the greatest weapon we have. Their exposure is based on faith (God will/is/is going to etc) w/o being able to show them God. They’ve seen LGBT. There is no question we exist.

    • John Ruff

      My dirt bag, Christiofascist relatives know me well, but they still vote against my rights.

  • Lazycrockett
  • Tomcat
  • Ninja0980

    Your fucking religious beliefs should have no say in civil law, period.

    • Tomcat

      That is their country so we should have no say about it, sorry, don’t kill the messenger.

  • CB

    Fuck you and fuck your pretend god.

  • Mike_in_the_Tundra

    Let’s definitely not use that money to feed the hungry or house the homeless.

  • John Ruff

    Domestic terrorists

  • Ken M

    I wonder if the Lifeguards are Anglican. http://68.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m36fkopd8c1r2citto1_250.gif

  • Bluto
  • boatboy_srq

    Looks like the ACN isn’t the only CofE branch run by Reichwingnuts.

  • JWC

    Fuck off Church let those people have the freedom in their lives

  • Friday

    All that money and they choose to hatemonger with it. What’s new there, I guess.

  • Gene Perry

    I’ve met several Anglican priests over the years. All of them gay, most of them out. Does the Archbishop seriously think he’s being taken seriously with this crap?

  • Adam Stevens

    Can anyone name any time any church was right about anything?

    • Ben in Oakland

      Unitarians.

    • UrsusArctos

      β€œI like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.” ― Mahatma Gandhi
      There ARE churches that expect their followers to be Christlike. That includes sacrifice, helping the poor, fighting injustice AND not expecting non-believers to follow their tenets. Mennonites, Unitarians, some Lutheran/some Methodist and others come to mind.
      It’s the American form of aggressive, proselytizing, self-righteous churches that hurt the ones actually trying to make the world a better place. Churches were the backbone of the Civil Rights movement at the same time some denominations fought like hell to keep their privilege.

    • Mikey

      United Church of Canada?
      Militant for equality since the women’s voting rights movement.
      In the forefront of the fight for marriage equality in Canada at the time.

  • Fafnir the thurifer

    FWIW, the Diocese of Sydney is way more conservative than most Australian Anglicans, and not representative of the Anglican church as a whole. Here is some background:
    Episcopal Cafe – https://www.episcopalcafe.com/sydney-anglicans-donate-1-million-to-oppose-same-sex-marriage/
    Thinking Anglicans – http://www.thinkinganglicans.org.uk/archives/007686.html

    cheers from Boston – Joan

  • DisqusD37

    I’m reminded of Sisyphos.

  • stvnc44

    O DII BONI!
    I have just figured out why they and the Catholics do not want gay marriage.
    We don’t, for the most part, make children, hence do not supply the innocents for their pedophilia fix!

  • KnownDonorDad

    Wow, imagine how many of the poor and needy that million could have helped.

  • Ogre Magi

    christians have always been our enemies, there is no reason to think that will change

    • Ben in Oakland

      Some Christians have. And I say that as someone who is no fan of Christianity.

      • NZArtist

        All christians are our enemies. Because even the ‘nice’ ones give legitimacy to the rest. The ‘nice’ ones disempower the ability of people to show how seriously fucked up having an imaginary friend really is.
        It’s like saying the ‘nice’ members of the KKK aren’t a threat to non-white people. Of course they are a threat. Perhaps even more dangerous because they trick unwary people into thinking the KKK as an institution isn’t totally fucking evil.

  • acde

    “Unwarranted” seems a strong, convincing argument. /s

  • Puck

    That is money that could help all these hurricane ravaged areas or even in their own communities, but nooooo.

  • JAKvirginia

    Marriage is a civil union and a civil right.
    Kindly butt out with your religion.

  • JCF

    In Australia, there are effectively two Anglican churches. There’s the Archdiocese of Sydney…and there’s everywhere else. Ironically, for a city famous for “Sydney Gay Mardi Gras”, the Archdiocese of Sydney (hierarchy) are homophobic turdblossoms (and, like U.S. Christianist homophobes, they’ve been responsible for funding homophobia around the world. It was long the property of the Jensen brothers—MASSIVE assholes!).

    That’s not to say that every Anglican in Sydney is happy about this state of affairs. This story shows some of that resistance.

  • leastyebejudged

    They take your money and use it to hurt your friends.

    The Australians I know personally I won’t judge the rest of the country by. But I’m in no hurry to visit.

  • JT

    AUSTRALIA: Anglican Church Donates $1M To Anti-Gay Marriage Group

    Fuck those assholes! Tax them into oblivion.

  • andrew

    If you know anything about the Anglican Church you know that it has almost as high a percentage of gay priests and bishops as the Roman Catholic Church and that’s a HUGE number and baby there’s no doubt about it, it’s HUGE.

  • Mow

    Please. DO donate. The Mormon Church did, too. Worked out well for them, didn’t it…

  • The good Bishop seems to think that the Anglican Church is still a power in the land. The results of last year’s census tell a rather different story.

    They show that at 30.1% “No Religion” is Australia’s largest (and fastest-growing) religion, comfortably outstripping Catholicism (22.6%) and with the Anglicans coming in a poor third, at 13.3%. “Other Christians” come in at 16.3% and non-Christian religions at 8.2%.

    Which means, dear Bishop, that your own flock — the people who might take notice of you and your Synod — is already outnumbered by more that 2 to 1. Sure, politics often makes strange bedfellows, but even if all the Christians in Oz were to unite behind you they only total 52.1%. In a country where polls and surveys have consistently shown for many years that only about 5% of people vote according to their religious beliefs that is an uncomfortably slender majority for you to pin your hopes on.

  • Joan

    Point of order: you shouldn’t really use “Liberal” in the sense when talking about Australian politics. The main centre right party in oz is The Liberal Party, roughly equivalent of Republicans or British Tories. So the headline was a mind boggling “Church Donates $1M To Anti-Gay Marriage Group, Republican Reverends Issue Protests” to anyone who knows Australian politics.

  • BudClark

    The Anglican Diocese of Sydney (the biggest and wealthiest in the Australian Anglican Church) is a BIG thorn in the side of Canterbury. The don’t use the Book of Common Prayer; their seminarians go to a fundamentalist protestant seminary; most other dioceses in the worldwide Anglican Church won’t incardinate (recognize) priests ordained by the Archbishop of Sydney. They are, of course, RABIDLY anti-gay. So far the Primates have done a lot of hand-wringing, but like with marriage equality, they are afraid to ACT, for fear of splitting the Anglican Communion, which is already split in practice between the pro-gay West and the anti-gay Southern hemisphere, led by the African bishops, who are supplying bishops for the breakaway “anglican” dioceses in the West.