CALIFORNIA: Wildfires Continue To Rage Across State, Governor Declares Emergency, 1500+ Buildings Lost

The San Francisco Chronicle reports:

At least 14 wildfires in the North Bay and surrounding region ravaged mountainsides, homes, vineyards and farmland Monday. One person is confirmed dead and several others were severely burned. Major highways were shut down, and local officials requested help from around the region as Gov. Jerry Brown declared a state of emergency. Information from authorities and residents on the ground was developing throughout Monday. Officials said efforts were focused on saving people’s lives, so many details were not fully known.

At least 1,500 homes and commercial facilities have been destroyed in the fires, which are burning in Napa, Sonoma, Solano, Lake, Nevada, Butte, Calaveras, Shasta, and Yuba counties. Napa County officials said three fires were burning in their jurisdiction: the Tubbs Fire near Calistoga and Santa Rosa at 25,000 acres, the Atlas Peak Fire at 25,000 acres and the Partrick Fire in the Carneros area at 3,000 acres.

More from CNN:

Authorities have not said what caused the fires, but noted that dry conditions made it easy for the fires to spread. October is typically the busiest month for wildfires in California, they said. Complicating firefighting efforts are low humidity and a lack of resources, Napa County Fire Chief Barry Biermann said.

“As of right now, with these conditions, we can’t get in front of this fire and do anything about the forward progress,” he said, adding that resources from across California were to begin arriving in the area late Monday.

The wildfires have stretched firefighting manpower and resources and spurred evacuations of homes and businesses. The California National Guard has sent three medical evacuation helicopters, six firefighting helicopters and 100 military police personnel to assist local law enforcement.


  • netxtown

    Hell or high water. And we’ve had both.
    Kansas/Oklahoma should be sinkhole any day now…

  • Lazycrockett

    *runs to store and stocks up on wine.*

    • EdmondWherever

      Get some paper towels, too, before some creepy president comes and throws some at you.

      • Adam King

        Especially if you spill the wine.

    • olandp

      Oh no! My Domaine Carneros!

  • Natty Enquirer

    North winds blew all that smoke right down to the East Bay last night. I opened my window around 2 to adjust a banging screen and the smoke was so intense, I thought there must a fire on my block!

  • JuanGalicia

    A friend of mine evacuated this morning, thinks his home definitely burned because when he was woken up the mountainside next to it was on fire :/

  • Pollos Hermanos

    We can’t win during wildfire season in CA.

    During dry years, they tell us the fires will be bad because everything is dry.

    During wet years, they tell us the fires will be bad because everything grew.

    • Natty Enquirer

      Houses make nice dry timber in any year.

  • JoeMyGod
    • gaycuckhubby

      Unreal

      • FAEN

        Unfortunately my friend this is all going to be all to common and real.

    • NZArtist

      … if you look at a real catastrophe like Katrina and you look at the tremendous hundreds and hundreds of people that died and what happened here with a storm that was just totally overbearing. No one has ever seen anything like that. What is your death count?

      • sfbob

        Thus far it’s only two. Seems as though the local authorities realized early on how bad things would become and acted accordingly.

      • sfbob

        Correction to my first reply. Unfortunately local CHP is now reporting seven deaths and they assume the count will continue to go up.

        • NZArtist

          Trump has the best disasters. The biggest. There are none bigger or better than his disasters. Everyone is saying how big his are and how well he’s handling them.

  • gaycuckhubby

    OT… Ben Stein says it’s time for Trump to go

    • Karl Dubhe

      (censored)

    • Misutaa Roboto

      And Ben Stein is a piece of shit in his own right. But he’s right about that, at least.

      • gaycuckhubby

        He’s the worst!

      • MBear

        Upvote if you stopped after first statement

      • Joe in PA

        I will never, ever forget his oh-so-wise [NYT editorial] saying the housing crisis was nothing to worry about…he said something like “hey, how bad could it be? Just a tiny percentage are behind in their mortgage payments“.

        Stupid putz still thinks people should listen to him. Ugh.

    • safari

      Gods, that means he’ll get a third term.

      • greenmanTN

        Don’t even joke….

    • Cuberly Deux

      Wow, when Nixon’s ball-washer throws in the towel THAT’s saying something.

      • UrsusArctos

        s’OK Roger Stone still has his back. Speaking of Nixon toadies.

        • Cuberly Deux

          Why is it so many of the desiccated souls left after that administration have become so evil that hell, even Nixon would balk at their soulless machinations.

    • pch1013
  • Lazycrockett
    • Menergy

      OMG!

    • Steverino

      It is horrible. Over 1,500 houses destroyed so far. Only two reported deaths, but that will almost certainly climb. One of the deaths was a blind woman whose body was found on the driveway of her home, obviously with no caregiver to help her.

      Heartbreaking.

    • Joe in PA

      Awful. 🙁 When I clicked to see the thread on Twitter…Coffee is an auto-correct problem, it is apparently Coffey Park. At first I thought…what a cool name. 🙂

      • Nowhereman

        I never use those features. I can spell better than most of them.

        • Joe in PA

          Braggart! 🙂

          Not me. I’ll take all the help I can get. And with some words, even spell-check can’t figure out what word I want! Sad really. 🙂

          But of course they don’t hemp in situations with they’re/their/there. And lots more.

    • Stephen Elliot Phillips

      Horrible.

  • FAEN

    But but I thought there was no climate change.

    • Natty Enquirer

      The Oakland Firestorm was in October, 1992.

    • Ninja0980

      Nope, forget that here in NY and in NE, our fall weather has felt like summer, with only two days below 60 being forecast in the next three weeks.

    • E.J.

      According to weather underground it’s snowing in Colorado, New Mexico and Kansas

      • bkmn

        And New England is being hit by a very early snow storm/rain storm (the end of Hurricane Nate)

      • Menergy

        “Might” get some snow flakes later tonight in Santa Fe NM. Otherwise it’s windy and sunny now.

  • Do Something Nice

    I live in San Francisco, about 50 miles south of the fires. I woke up in the middle of the night, coughing from the acrid, smoky air.

    So many people have been displaced and according the The Mercury News, many wineries have been destroyed, including well-known brands.

    http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/10/09/napa-and-sonoma-wildfires-destroy-wineries-bars-and-hotels-force-wine-country-wide-evacuations/

    • TimCA

      On an earlier thread I mentioned I went out predawn this morning to a location in San Mateo. My car was covered in fine ash when I got out and this is even further away than you are. We can still smell smoke down here on the Peninsula as I write this.

      • pch1013

        I had to brush ash off my motorcycle when I left for work this morning.

        • m_lp_ql_m

          Hey, me too!

        • Steverino

          Needless to say, ash is falling from the sky around our house in southeast Santa Rosa.

          I call it “snowflakes from hell.”

          • Adam King

            That’s a coincidence–I call Turmp supporters “snowflakes from hell.”

          • UrsusArctos

            Trumpflakes

          • Nowhereman

            Thanks–I needed a laugh about now. This is just too effing much.

          • Adam King

            I sure hope this crisis passes with as little harm as possible. It’s terrifying.

          • Leo Tallant

            It’s been falling here in Sebastopol since early this morning. My neighbor had a half a sheet of binder paper with some kind of writing on it fall into her yard. Most of it however is smaller stuff. The Husbear works at the Home Depot on the hill in SR. They called early this morning (4:30 am) to tell him not to come to work. We have seen video of fires around the parking lot of the store but no word yet on it’s condition.

          • Steverino

            We patronize that Home Depot all the time! Likely have seen your husbear there and didn’t know it. We were there on Thursday buying a few sticks of lumber and other things on our way to Rio Nido. We saw the pics of the apartments next door on fire, and were wondering about the HD.

          • Leo Tallant

            You probably have seen him. He works for the MET team. They maintain the bays and they do the pricing, shelf tags etc. As such he does not wear an apron but has a full bright orange HD pullover shirt. . . . at a little over 6 feet tall you can’t miss him. He is the taller one in my profile pic.

          • Steverino

            The Kaiser almost next door is our HMO (although hubby has the VA as well, as he is a 100% rated disabled veteran for hearing loss), and we were planning on stopping by there on the way home for our annual flu shots. Oops.

    • Todd Allis

      It smelled smoky in San Jose this morning, worse in my office in Brisbane.

    • Denis

      Also SF here. There was this really bizarre hot wind around 10 pm last night. It was something I’ve never felt in 20 years here. And then by 11:30 my bedroom was full of smoke. Dog and I slept in the basement. This morning, white ash was falling from the sky like a mini Pompeii. I’m so sorry for the people and animals that have lost their home and lives. It’s just one disaster after another.

    • Friday

      “So tired of winning.” While Drumph and his Fundies make climate change worse for no economic purpose.

  • Sam_Handwich

    can we just blame gay cakes and move on?

  • TimCA

    I’m visiting my mom and friends in the Bay Area for the last few weeks. This is probably the biggest fire event locally since the Oakland Hills Fire 25 years ago.
    Just unbelievable.

    • Steverino

      Yep. The pictures I’ve seen so far from the Fountaingrove area looks exactly like the Oakland Hills Fire. Also an affluent area in the hills.

      • Leo Tallant

        We can’t even see Santa Rosa from over here in Sebastopol……and we are not really getting a lot of useful news. Most of it is just sensationalism from SF TV stations.

        • Steverino

          We were at our cabin in Rio Nido last night, so this morning after hearing the news, we drove down 116 all the way to Cotati and then just took the back roads home. Traffic wasn’t too bad. There were lots of obvious evacuees hanging out in Forestville and Sebastopol, and every gas station had long lines.

          • Leo Tallant

            I heard at least one gas station is totally out of gas at this point. I am glad you were able to make it. Pics of the freeway (101) this morning were just horrendous.

          • Steverino

            We drove briefly north on 101 between the 116 onramp and exited at the Rohnert Park Expressway, driving by Sonoma State to take the backroads home. This was at 11am and the traffic was fast. But 101 was (is) closed in both directions between downtown Santa Rosa and Shiloh Road in south Windsor.

  • Tom Furgas

    Of course our beloved president is too busy retaliating against those who are calling him out for what he is to be the least bit concerned about American citizens imperiled by these wildfires.

    • MBear

      Doesnt he hate Cali?

      • bkmn

        Yes, because they didn’t vote for him and Hollywood never gave him the praise he desired/desires

        • pch1013

          And he supposedly doesn’t drink, so he doesn’t care what happens to wine country.

          And then there’s the sanctuary state thing, which I’m sure has him in a California-hating rage.

          • MonochromeMouse

            “Supposedly” is the key word there. Being an alcoholic would explain the erratic behavior he has had all his life and his strange unnatural skin tone. And an addict who has to hide his addiction, along with his narcissistic need for attention, would explain why he gets so worked up and angry about things that don’t matter whenever he’s out in public.

          • prixator

            And he has a winery near Charlolttesville, VA – so the fires are knocking out a lot of competition! You just know that pleases him.

      • jerry

        Yes, because of the 3 million people illegally voting (snark) there in the last election.

      • Stephen Elliot Phillips

        And if n korea turns us (Cali) into dust cheeto and the rethugs wont blink an eye.
        Fucking bastards

    • NZArtist

      It’s not worth him talking about it until the body count is higher than Katrina.

      • Phillip in L.A.

        (Grimaces, and upvotes.)

  • Tomcat

    Don’t expect any empathy from trump, he don’t know how.

    • pch1013

      Plus, he knows how much California hates his guts.

  • safari

    Waiting for the president to tell us all about the love and friendship this fire brings us.

    • Lazycrockett

      “Its cleansing the land which will make for good planting season! Bigly!!”

      • royinhell

        “Have a good time!”

        • safari

          (Throws bags of marshmallows)

          • Lazycrockett

            “Thanks for coming”

          • Joe in PA

            “Good Luck!”

    • TimCA

      It’s California. I wouldn’t hold my breath waiting for Trump to even acknowledge this. At least not until the flames make their way into a more GOP friendly part of the state

      • boatboy_srq

        There are fires in Oroville, Reading and the Sequoia Nat’l Park above Bakersfield. tRumpistan is already threatened.

        ETA not to mention fires in the Anaheim hills. Issa must be sweating.

        • sfbob

          Issa SHOULD be sweating.

    • ByronK

      “There’s a lot of fire, very hot fire. It’s so hot things are burning up because of the heat. You can believe me when I say that things get hot and go on fire when you disrespect the flag and hate the army people and guns. What I’m focused on doing is heeling people and pulling them together out of their country love. God bless America. Bigly.”

      • Danieruw

        Love how you spelled “heeling”!

        (and love Snowy, of course)

        • pch1013

          Or, to use his original French name, Milou.

          (Not to be confused with a certain little frosted-tipped fascist shitbag.)

      • JAKvirginia

        Step away from the Trump. Come to the light!

    • jerry

      “Have a good time.”

      • boatboy_srq

        Don’t. Lord Dampnut will send marshmallows to Cali and call them “aid”.

        • jerry

          We’ll send word to Puerto Rico to send back some of the dampened paper towels.

        • JCF

          Bestest, biglyest marshmallows—and he’ll throw them at us!

      • Nowhereman

        “What a great turnout!”

    • JAKvirginia

      Waiting for the religion freaks to blame LGBTetc’s

      (Sorry. No insult intended. I can’t keep up with all the letters.)

      • sfbob

        Apparently various local news sites that allow comments on articles are getting nasty ones. Not so much religious freaks as Righties hoping all the “libtards” get burned by the flames.

        • pch1013

          Like the loving Christians they are.

    • 2guysnamedjoe

      He’ll be tweeting about the great real estate he’ll pick up real cheap.

    • Stephen Elliot Phillips

      Both sides have fire…..

    • Ron Robertson

      And offering “warm wishes.” Exactly what’s NOT needed.

  • safari

    Which reminds me: apparently the Jones Act suspension ended on Sunday for Puerto Rico. And Donald isn’t extending it for reasons.

    • MBear

      They gots their paper towels already

      • Adam King

        He’s the quicker picker upper.

    • Friday

      So, he has no idea how ships go.

    • worstcultever

      reasons = snippy girl

    • UrsusArctos

      Reasons: US Commercial shippers said no.

      • sfbob

        Other reasons: brown people who’d vote D in presidential elections if they could. Plus R’s who voted for Rubio in the primary.

  • JoeMyGod

    Just got a text from a friend in Fairfield (Solano County) and he’s packing up the car and crating the dogs in advance of an expected evacuation order.

    • Tom Furgas

      I’m still waiting anxiously to hear from my friend in Sonoma county (Santa Rosa).

      • sfjohn

        I heard from mine just outside of Sonoma town: losing power off & on, smoke & ash making hazy conditions….Another friend has lost 2/3 rds of his farm to wildfires. This morning here in SF the air quality was horrible!!

      • Steverino

        North Santa Rosa (north of downtown) is in the fire / evacuation zone. South of downtown (where we live) is okay. East and southeast of Santa Rosa in the Valley of the Moon is also in the fire zone, especially around Glen Ellen, north of the town of Sonoma.

    • gaycuckhubby

      So scary. Stay safe everyone and PLEASE listen to evacuation orders

    • JoeMyGod

      He has SEVEN dogs.

      • Adam King

        Good on him. That’s a lot of crates.

      • safari
      • pch1013

        Speaking of animals in the fire zone, here’s a bit of semi-good news from a wild-animal park between Santa Rosa and Calistoga. It’s close to where the SF Gay Men’s Chorus has its retreats, as immortalized in “Further Tales of the City” – no word yet on how that camp fared. http://www.ktvu.com/news/oakland-zoo-on-standby-to-help-animals-in-tubbs-fire

        • Steverino

          It’s pretty bad, from what I’ve seen so far. That whole Mark West Springs / Porter Creek Road corridor between northern Santa Rosa and Calistoga (northern Napa Valley) is being referred to as “ground zero” of the fire in the Santa Rosa to Calistoga area.

          • pch1013

            Oh, crap. I’m not surprised to hear that, having seen some of those fire maps, but still.

          • pch1013

            On their Facebook page, Camp Newman reports that “the majority of the buildings at our beloved Camp Newman home have been destroyed.”

      • Joe in PA

        OMG a crazy dog person…or something.

        Hope he (and the dogs!) are safe. Dang.

    • Karl Dubhe

      Good to hear your friend has gotten the dogs ready.

      Best of luck to them all.

    • Rebecca Gardner

      It’s crazy here. All the way in SF my home smells like a camp fire. I woke up coughing at 4am. My heart goes out to everyone effected.

      I hope your friend and his dogs are fine and evacuate safely if they need to. I have a bunch of friends doing the same thing right now.

      2017 has to be the saddest year in decades.

      • pch1013

        I miss 2016.

        • Nowhereman

          I do too, and it was a personally shitty year for me. This past 9 months have been a nightmare roller coaster for the whole world.

        • JCF

          I miss 2016…until 11/8.

    • DaddyRay

      OMG, how scary

    • Steve Teeter

      Fairfield? That’s getting close to where my family hung out/grew up/etc. Dixon was the focus for that. I hope they’re okay.

  • Lazycrockett

    Well blue states, don’t even expect a tweet from Drumpf.

    • Friday

      Maybe he’ll blame them for the weather based on lying about their budget?

  • danolgb

    Southern California is not immune either. There is a fire currently burning in the Anaheim Hills/Orange area. We had just been forecast for Santa Ana winds (hot/dry wind that blow from inland toward the ocean) so, we’re in for some scary days.

  • Friday

    Meanwhile Drumph and the Republicans will whine about not being praised for doing nothing but whining about the ‘war on coal’ and golfing while getting caught in adultery and graft.

    • pch1013

      He’ll hold a disaster declaration hostage until California overturns the sanctuary state designation.

  • bkmn

    Sickening.

    • safari

      Really.

    • pch1013

      Literally, for anyone with breathing problems (like me).

  • Joe in PA

    Any word from @Cuberly? I know he’s in Oakland, but still. Too close.

    • m_lp_ql_m

      I’m in Oakland right now. We can smell the smoke, but it’s safe here.

      • sfbob

        Air quality in SF seems to have improved since early this morning.

    • safari

      Cuberly said he’s slowing down his media consumption after a bad recent period. He might have also ditched his old account and set up a new one

      • Cuberly Deux

        Yeah it’s a new account. And yeah, trying to curtail my interwebz activity some.

        • Joe in PA

          What did I tell you about commenting over on Mediaite? 🙂 Actually I commented the other day, trying to AGREE with someone and got attacked. Sheesh, they are vicious.

          • Cuberly Deux

            Ha! You ain’t foolin, it’s toxic as hell over there….makes you lose your faith in all of humanity.

    • Cuberly Deux

      Hey, I’m in Oakland, it’s just really smoky out here.

      • Joe in PA

        Is this the REAL Cuberly? Did you delete your Twitter as well? Dammit, you can’t desert us like that! 🙂

        • Cuberly Deux

          Yeah Twitter is buh bye, the libertarian rusky enablers can munch my tuckas.

          • Joe in PA

            And not in a good way. 🙁

            Sorry, couldn’t resist. But glad you are still here…I’ll miss your tweets.

          • Cuberly Deux

            lol….good tuchas munching…lol…

            Yeah I’ve had it with twitter, can’t see myself going back there. Just like I won’t re-join Facebook. I’m gonna keep my social media accounts to a minimum….at least for now.

          • Joe in PA

            Wise. There is a lot of mean, and a lot of dumb. 🙁

          • UrsusArctos

            Welcome back. I killed Disqus the day after the election and wound up coming back for JMG a little over a week later. I wish I hadn’t killed it now. The loss of comment history has caused some grief.

          • Cuberly Deux

            I understand, my history went back to before Joe opted for Disqus. Since before Obama’s election.

            But I need a fresh start. So far I don’t think I’ll miss the comment history.

          • bzrd

            it’s not the comment history that counts, it’s just being here commenting
            it’s bat-shit-crazy out there

          • Cuberly Deux

            I agree.

      • Adam King

        Like your new nom de fancy.

        • Cuberly Deux

          😉

  • Steverino

    Lends new meaning to the phrase “come hell or high water.” Hubby and I delt with high water along the Russian River last February, and now we are dealing with hell. Fortunately we dodged both bullets, so far. Still have power and services in southeast Santa Rosa, and the winds have died down. Still smoke everywhere. The Fountaingrove area of northeast Santa Rosa is devastated. Fountaingrove Lodge, the LGBT retirement facility was successfully evacuated, but most of the homes in the area were destroyed. I fear that the Lodge may have been destroyed.

    As I mentioned in an earlier thread, it will be difficult to sleep tonight. But of course we will evacuate in a moments notice if need be. At least we have another house to evacuate to. Most residents are not so fortunate.

    • ByronK

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    • Do Something Nice

      Take care.

    • worstcultever

      Thanks for the updates – we’re all with you

    • Ron Robertson

      I used to live and work in those areas. It’s just so horrifying and sickening what’s been destroyed. A number of people I know have had to evacuate. My heart aches.

  • Phillip in L.A.

    How about those Cubs?!?

    [Struck down by a Washington double-play! Epic!]

    • Adam King

      Cubs, schmubs. How bout them Indians?

      • Phillip in L.A.

        They are scary as fuck! That will be an exciting World Series, if it shapes up that way!

        • Adam King

          Atsa some spicy basa ball!

        • JCF

          Cubs gotta get past the fecking Dodgers (who look like they’re about to sweep the Snakes).

          • Phillip in L.A.

            Cubs gotta beat the Nats, first, JCF!

      • JCF

        Tribe-Stros will be awesome ALCS!

    • Sam_Handwich

      Red sox lost today, so they’re done with post-season 🙁

      • Friday

        Even as a Bostonian, fine. Schilling’s a Trumpist arsehole.

  • DisqusD37

    Have lived here in Santa Rosa all my life and have never experienced anything like this. It’s devastating.

    • Leo Tallant

      The whole thing is totally surreal. I kept thinking all day that I was going to wake up from a really bad dream…

  • boatboy_srq

    Heartbreaking on so many levels.

    Not the least of which is the great fat dougnut hole tRump’s maladministration will likely provide in relief once the blazes (note the plural) are put out.

  • safari

    I think I might have forgotten what good news is.

    • Adam King

      Ima go drink cocktails.

      • safari

        I’m going to have a bottle of wine.

    • Cuberly Deux

      Tell me about it. 🙁

      It’s all so numbing.

  • Sean

    How will Dotard respond? Maybe he’ll send donated marshmallows to the Americans affected by these fires, as long as they make sure the damage fits within the budget of course.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/87e3841e196da76dcb84e0fe7c7ec9e0049889690f2d00f59842077572417600.png

  • JuanGalicia

    I wonder if my concrete house would survive in the same areas c.c .. I mean in Mexico its pretty much inconceivable to have a house that isn´t made out of concrete in it´s entirety and it would survive a fire… just wonder if the interior would survive.

    • Tor

      The structure would probably survive, but the contents and roof, if wood, would go. If the roof were concrete, I’d be concerned about the fire heating the rebar to a dangerous point of failure.

  • Cuberly Deux
    • Steverino

      That narrow gap between the two big triangles of fire in the middle of the graphic is where we live.

      • Cuberly Deux

        Yikes!

        Have any authorities appraised you on the status? I guess via the radio but still.

        • sfbob

          There’s all sorts of warning out there. A portion of the north side of Santa Rosa is under evac orders as is part of Napa. I live in SF but even I’ve gotten alerts on my phone.

          • Cuberly Deux

            Did a search for the evacuation map and saw this. They just expanded the north Santa Rosa evacuation zone again.

            https://twitter.com/CityofSantaRosa/status/917496527978881024

          • Cuberly Deux

            Oops actually that map looks to be old, they expanded the zone all the way to the eastern border of the city limits.

        • Steverino

          Nothing yet, but we live about two miles south of the evacuation / fire area. The winds are the crucial factor in the spread of the fire, and last night it was blowing from the north with gusts up to almost category 1 hurricane levels. The winds have abated (just a slight breeze, now) but if they return (not forecast to), we could be in trouble. We still have power and full cable / landline / cell / internet service. Radio reception is spotty, as many local radio stations are in the fire / evacuation zone. I will sleep lightly tonight. So glad I’m here to help hubby, as he is practically deaf. But if I hear a knock on the door in the middle of the night, we will clear the hell out of here.

          • Cuberly Deux

            Here’s hoping they can get some form of containment soon. Stay safe.

            If you lose power etc..well…be careful.

          • Phillip in L.A.

            Glad to hear you are safe and prepared, Steverino! Stay that way, please

          • CB

            Stay safe!

      • sfbob

        Wow! Fingers crossed for you guys’ safety. I have friends up there as well as having local friends with family in and around Santa Rosa; have been busily trying to check up on them all afternoon. None seem to have been evacuated thus far.

      • Phillip in L.A.

        Holy crap! That is scary

  • JAKvirginia

    Okay… refresh my memory. Isn’t this the state that a year ago had a dam about 40 miles north of Sacramento they were terrified was going to fail because of all the rain they had? We have got to do something about water management in this country…. right after we nuke NK, of course. 😕

    • stevenj

      The water in Lake Oroville would not have helped with this fire at all. What would help with water management in this state is if big agribusiness, which uses 75-80% of all the water that comes from No. Calif., would conserve like the people in the urban areas do.

      • JAKvirginia

        But it would. They opened up the spillway full bore and tens of thousands of gallons of water per second drained into the river on its way to the bay and out to sea. Water management would have sent that water south through pipes to catch basins/storage tanks for irrigation or other uses. The oceans don’t need anymore water, especially fresh water. Floods then droughts then fires is a cycle that can be ended. And I’ve seen the open concrete irrigation culverts in the valley. Is no one there familiar with the concept of evaporation? Water is being wasted big time. Sending it into the ocean the biggest.

        • stevenj

          Maybe you need to look at a map top see how far away the Sacramento River is from Santa Rosa? How is water to put out a fire supposed to get there?

          • JAKvirginia

            And maybe you need to get your head out of your ass and see that water management would be fucking STATE-WIDE! AND you would know that CA is already planning better ways to manage water resources. But, y’know, fuck me, fuck CA. Enjoy your hot time…

          • TuuxKabin

            And you obviously live up your ass.

          • JAKvirginia

            Nah…. your not worth it.

    • Tor

      Unfortunately, rain in January means fire in October.

  • sdnative1958
    • Natty Enquirer

      I’m getting asthma just looking at that.

    • Phillip in L.A.

      Fuck.

  • worstcultever

    God. Just god.

    • Friday

      I’m sure the followers of the Christian God will cheer for the destruction and say it’s cause of gay people any minute.

      • djcoastermark

        And then damn libruls of cally for nye ay. /s

      • JCF

        Followers of Christianist White Jebus.

  • stevenj

    “Authorities have not said what caused the fires, but noted that dry conditions made it easy for the fires to spread.”

    Dry conditions and….wind. Apparently the wind was blowing at 20 – 60mph in some of these areas but died down earlier today. I am 40 -60 miles south in SF but woke up this morning to really smoky smelly air that had drifted south since yesterday late afternoon and covered the Bay Area. About noon the wind started to shift from the north to more normal westerlies and cleared the stench and foul air out.

  • WhitewaterDave

    My ex texted me this morning. He has a place in the hills NE of downtown Sonoma that we lived in when we were together. He and his partner evacuated to a friends place on the east side. He just texted me now saying they may have to evac again… its very unsettling…

    • Ron Robertson

      I used to work in Sonoma. Lots of friends out in that area, and other places north and south. So many have had to evacuate, and the places that have already burned are just heartbreaking. Hope your ex and friends are all OK.

  • djcoastermark

    My heart goes out to all of you there in the firestorm. Please stay safe , get out if you need, and I hope your homes and, most importantly, your lives are safe.

    • Leo Tallant

      Thank you so much. It’s nice to know there are still caring people in the world.

  • Rebecca Gardner
    • Steverino

      Northwest Santa Rosa, west of 101. About a mile or so southwest of the exit to both River Road (west, toward the Russian River and Guerneville), and Mark West Springs Road (east, toward Calistoga and the Napa Valley). I’m sure anybody in the SF Bay Area who has been to the Russian River is familiar with this exit, and this devastated neighborhood is right next door.

      • Rebecca Gardner

        I ride my motorcycle up around there all the time. Yes, I am familiar with exactly where this is. So horrible. :’-(

        • Steverino

          That’s the route we usually take to/from our cabin in Rio Nido. Not today, obviously.

  • SoCalGal20

    You can add 6 houses burned so far in SoCal in the Anaheim Hills, with Canyon Fire 2 (the first one burned a couple of weeks ago). It’s already at 4000 acres and it just started earlier today.

    https://twitter.com/cal_fire/status/917488042566336512

    https://twitter.com/kpcc/status/917529097605087232

    • Mike_in_the_Tundra

      I just made a grocery run. You can see the smoke in the air. Air quality must be pretty bad.

      • SoCalGal20

        I live in North San Diego County and it’s smoky here! I was wondering if maybe there was a fire at Camp Pendleton again but I think it’s just smoke from the fire in OC.

        Take care if you’re near it!

  • Phillip in L.A.

    My most sincere condolence to everyone who has been affected in any way by these terrible natural disasters.

    Fire has been no stranger to us; there is a dry Santa Ana wind that is often a harbinger of fire here in Southern California. When that hot, dry wind comes in from the east, off the desert, the air often brings with it a fire-smell. Fortunately, fire-smell is very often overwhelmed by sweeter odors; most nights it becomes tempered with resinous undertones of pine and the floral unctuousness of Indian Lemonade. So, most nights, the air seems to smell sweet.

    I stood on our family’s roof during the 1978 Agoura-Malibu “firestorm” with a garden hose, against an absolute conflagration. Burning embers were flying through the air; soot and smoke and a dusty-dry-acrid-and-hot odor and flavor, with a thick heaviness to the air–almost overwhelming–wrapped around my eyes, nose, and mouth. We watched the columns of smoke and kept our eyes on the ridge across the street, expecting any moment to watch the crispy dry brush at the top to burst into flames.

    Thankfully, by some fluke of fate or Fortuna, that firestorm did not reach over the lip of the canyon just next to ours; it was less than a half-mile away when it was contained. Most everything was decimated in a few hours, just
    like that. (Snaps fingers.)

    Since I am tied to this particular land–it has been my family’s home for three generations–when California burns I burn, too.

    • JWC

      At this frightening time Mrs Slocombe sends her best regards

  • Ninja0980

    So will the gays be blamed for this yet?

    • Steverino

      Sonoma County has (I think) the highest population of gays in Northern California, next to San Francisco City and County. So you can bank on it.

  • JWC

    Trump will probably not visit California Not being able to equate Hurricaines to wildfires as natural disasters Besides its the land of bleeding heart Liberals

    • DaddyRay

      Well that is a positive – the people of California have been through enough

      • JCF

        Pence was here in Sacramento today. [Like we’re not suffering enough?]

  • Rebecca Gardner
  • Spray on abs

    It’s horrible. The air is thick with smoke. A good friend lost his beautiful home in Fountain Grove area. He just bought it about 6 months ago. I texted him at 2:15 AM to see how he was. He said he could hear peoples homes exploding so he split. I’m safe but I am hurting for him.

    • Ron Robertson

      That’s so horrible.

  • BeaverTales

    I grew up in California, these videos are harder to watch than I thought they’d be.

  • MBear

    No evacs west of fulton rd so far, right? Trying to keep up on info but tough to get through all the stupid “news ” chatter for actual info

    • Leo Tallant

      There might have been some up near the north end of Fulton but not the stretch that is east of Sebastopol. The north end of Fulton is closer to the Fountaingrove area.

      • MBear

        Thanks

  • JCF

    Really scary! I’m waiting to hear if the conference center in Occidental that my church choir has its annual retreat in (coming up the weekend of the 20th) survives. In deep forest.

    • Leo Tallant

      I do not know that we had any fires out in the extreme west county. At least I had not heard of any. I think Occidental is OK as far as I know.

  • Max_1
  • Leo Tallant

    As if we do not have enough going on now I read that last night we had a 2.9 quake between Santa Rosa and Kenwood. Not that 2.9 is all that bad however but on top of fires it just keeps everyone’s nerves frayed.

  • Leo Tallant

    It’s 4:21 AM . The husbear just left for work, but not to his regular store in Fountaingrove. That one is closed. He is being sent to the store in Rohnert Park. I hate that he has to go out there in the early morning darkness what with all that has been going on. Santa Rosa was (and may still be) under a curfew that began last night at sunset to help prevent looting of evacuated areas, but he won’t be going near there. He really hates going to a different store, even though he used to work at that one at one time.

    I am here alone with my elderly Mom who is still asleep. She had a long day yesterday. I am waiting and watching. I am hoping the worst of the fires have passed. Smoke is still everywhere but I can finally see a few stars here and there. To all JMG readers here in our area, I hope you are well and safe.