Sam Brownback Defends Anti-LGBT Actions At Hearing To Be International “Religious Freedom” Ambassador

The Associated Press reports:

Sam Brownback, in line to be ambassador-at-large for international religious freedom, on Wednesday defended his decision as Kansas governor to scrap an order that barred discrimination based on sexual orientation or gender identity.

Brownback in 2015 rescinded the order issued in August 2007 by then-Gov. Kathleen Sebelius that banned discrimination against gays, lesbians, bisexuals and transgender individuals in hiring and employment agencies under the governor’s direct control. He told the Senate Foreign Relations Committee at his confirmation hearing that Sebelius, a Democrat, had acted unilaterally and undercut the Kansas’ legislature.

Brownback, a favorite of Christian conservatives for his strong stances against abortion and same-sex marriage, also declined to unequivocally declare there is no situation that would allow a country to cite religious freedom as the basis for criminally prosecuting LGBT people. “I don’t know what that would be, in what circumstance,” he said in response to a question from Sen. Tim Kaine.

  • Treant

    Am I the only one who calls him Slam Bareback? Because you know he spends weekends in a sling in a sex club somewhere in the heart of Kansas.

    Also, International Religious Freedom? We’ve always been at war with Eastasia. Call it what it is: Spreading My Version of Christianity Which Is The Only Right Religion.

    Even then, Sam’s not qualified to be the ambassador of anything. The embarrasador, maybe.

    • bkmn

      I call him Gov. Brokeback, since I really don’t want to think of anyone barebacking him

      • Snarkaholic

        I call him Gov. Out-back, because of what he probably does in dark alleys.

      • Robincho

        I’ve said this before, but it bears repeating —

        Santorum, improperly disposed of, can lead to Brownback…

    • Todd20036

      There are sex clubs in the heart of Kansas?

      • Silver Badger

        I seriously doubt it.

      • edrex

        well… technically they’re barns.

      • Ragnar Lothbrok

        You have no idea.

        • Todd20036

          Go on…

    • clay

      My straight siblings in Kansas say that “brownback” is the result of sloppy anal sex. It’s when saddlebacking leads to getting santorum all over.

  • Gustav2

    Religious freedom for me, but not for thee.

  • Mark Née Fuzz

    Seriously? We have an ambassador for this bullshit? Why?

    • clay

      To make the GOP happy.

      • Ragnar Lothbrok

        They will never be happy.
        They don’t know how to be happy.
        They will never ever be happy, no matter what.

        • Octoberfurst

          Well they “might” be happy if there was no one left in the world except white, English-speaking, heterosexual, right-wing Christians. But even then they would probably fight over which right-wing Christian denomination is the “right” one. Southern Baptist? Pentecostal? Assemblies of God? To war I say!!!

          • swimboy
          • cleos_mom

            Than again, maybe not. We’ve all known people who are hell-bent on being unhappy no matter what’s happening.

            Of course, that could mean they’d have to turn on each other,

        • JCF

          Well-said.

        • Librarykid

          That will prepare them for an eternity of suffering in hell.

        • prixator

          Yup. As someone has previously said, they can’t stand the thought that someone somewhere is experiencing pleasure, guilt-free. Everyone must be as miserable as they are.

    • Mark

      Well, we are a oligarch theocracy, doncha know…

      • BudClark

        When they pry my athame out of my cold, dead hands!!!

    • crewman

      I’m surprised Trump doesn’t also appoint an Ambassador at Large for “Climate change is a hoax”.

    • JackFknTwist

      Yeah, that’s what struck me.
      So can the rest of us have an ambassador from religious freedom………to protect us from the very malice of this c unt ?

      • fuow

        No. Religious freedom only applies to conservative, hate-drive, gay bashing christers.

    • Stephen Elliot Phillips

      The right hated “czars” under obama….

    • fuow

      Because we gays and other groups threatened by the christers refuse to vote whereas rethugs and christers always vote. That’s why.

      • The_Wretched

        “In 2014, Wisconsin Republicans received 52 percent of the vote and won 63 out of 99 seats in the State Assembly. In 2016, they won the same percentage of the statewide vote and captured 64 seats”

        Slate.com yesterday on the republican gerrymandering case. 1:1 on votes, 2:1 on seats. Shit like that matters. (current guess on votes at scotus is 4:4:1, anti-democracy data like that and it’s still a contested issue; it should be an easy 9:0 if the republicans valued deomocracy).

      • Vista-Cruiser

        Bingo.

    • Alex Knisely

      Simpler, really, to grant him a life annuity and pack him off to stay silent. Royalty used to do this: Here, go farm these acres, but never show your nose in London / Paris / St Petersburg again.

    • BudClark

      ‘Cause Jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee-bus and Seven Mountains Dominionism, of course. “RELIGIOUS FREEDOM” is ONLY for KKKonservative KKKrisianist Kultist FUNDAMENTAST PROTESTANTS, silly wabbit!

  • bkmn

    My Jeebie is better than your Jeebie.

    • edrex

      how’s your heebie?

      • clay

        He be ok?

        • Treant

          And you be? I bought a flowbie. It disappoin-tedme.

  • j.martindale

    Bigots like this asshole are not motivated by their professed religions. They are motivated by their mean spirited prejudices.

    • Todd20036

      Yup. Religious freedom isn’t the goal, merely the justification of various ulterior motives.

      • BudClark

        MAN! Is HE butt-UGLY! Inside AND out!!

    • clay

      There’s a difference?

  • Todd20036

    Religious freedom is not religious freedom if it requires a victim.

    • Cackalaquiano

      Well said. (Stealing this)

  • Stogiebear

    He also said he would never have anything to do with a theocracy. This, after becoming a Roman Catholic.

    • netxtown

      he’s gonna have to chose who he works for: the US or the Pope….which is it gonna be?

      • Silver Badger

        Shades of JFK!

        • JackFknTwist

          Shades of Henry VIII

  • bambinoitaliano

    Look into his closet, I bet what ever he is against in his deeply held religious belief, a few skeletons will fall out from it.

    • Bj Lincoln

      I would place a bet on that! The louder they are the harder they fall!

  • netxtown

    Maybe he should present to the panel his first speech to a predominantly Muslim country…

    • Silver Badger

      Perhaps a tour of Muslim countries.

  • clay

    Even Trump’s people know enough not to give Brownback any financial power.

    • edrex

      yeah, but the gop is champing at the bit to reproduce his disastrous tax scheme.

  • Butch

    Well, if he can do for international religious freedom what he did for the Kansas economy, then I’d say he’s a perfect fit.

    • Silver Badger

      The name will have to be changed to International Christian Religious Freedom.

      • Butch

        I’m thinking he’ll destroy it, just like he did the Kansas economy.

        • Silver Badger

          One can only hope.

    • Steverino

      Well, Trump does have a tendency to chose incompetent ideologues to be in charge of various offices.

      • prixator

        Tendency? I thought it was a strict requirement?

  • Tatonka

    Up is down. Black is white. Evil is good.

    • Frostbite

      Trump is handsome. And has large… hands.

      • kareemachan

        [gag]

      • Ken M

        More gratefully, a large mouth. From which stupidity flows.

  • Silver Badger

    He has to do something now that the people of Kansas are breaking out the tar and feathers.

  • BlindBill

    Why is there a government funded position for ambassador of international religious freedom?

    • Bj Lincoln

      I didn’t know why we need a department like this. It has to be new. Something Drumpf dreampt up while taking a breath between tweets on the shitter.

      • kareemachan

        Can’t argue with you….

      • Rolf

        Finally an explanation.
        Trump’s brain is severely impaired from inhaling hydrogen sulphide gas.

    • Clive Johnson

      There are many things we need ambassadors for before religious freedom:

      -An ambassador for religious literacy
      -An ambassador for literacy
      -An ambassador for scientific literacy in particular (that could begin their work in the American south)
      -etc.

      Imagine a critical thinking ambassador, or one for human rights. This is what an enlightened society would do.

    • JCF
  • Stev84

    He is perfectly qualified. The whole point of that job is to support American evangelicals spreading their hatred abroad

  • DaddyRay
    • Smokey

      “Jesus wept.”

  • Mike

    To us normals, “religious freedom” means freedom from persecution. To Republicans, it means freedom to persecute.

    The total degradation of the US before the world is a process. It’s done brick by brick. Brownback is just the latest brick.

    • JackFknTwist

      And it is happening at a faster rate than the rise in sea levels. Do people in the USA even know what’s going on with their standing in the world ?

      • Shy Guy

        Many do, the rest voted for Trump.

      • fuow

        No.
        Do they care?
        No.
        Will this lead to liberals voting?
        No.

        • JCF

          I pray (and work) that your last “No” is wrong…

    • Joe in PA

      Brownback is just the latest brick.

      But without the smarts. 🙁

    • JW Swift

      Equating Brownback with a brick just seems right, somehow.

      • PeterC

        BLOCK-HEAD

    • JCF
  • Smokey

    Few of these xtians are aware enough to know that prohibitions against LGBT behavior are not a universal religious belief.

    • And what makes you think they would care, since those are all “false religions”?

  • barrixines

    Aside from the general threat Trump poses, this is one of those US decisions which directly affects the lives of people in other countries. Thank you all you mouthbreathing sisterfucking toothless Trump voting hillbillies for inflicting this piggery on the world. People will die because of you shits.

    • Halou

      The United States voted “no” to a UN HRC resolution to condemn the death penalty for gay relationships. This is the new normal.

      • kareemachan

        And nikki was so proud….

      • cleos_mom

        But we were spared the horror of a private email server and rubber-chicken-circuit speeches.

    • fuow

      True.
      Of course, I’ll add a ‘thank-you’* to all the gay men who voted Green or stayed home to ‘teach’ us Democrats a ‘lesson’.

      * Can’t say ‘fuck you’, ’cause they all run screaming to poor Joe.)

      • barrixines

        Nobody’s reported me yet – so, my pleasure – a big “Fuck You” on your behalf.

        • kareemachan

          I’ve deemed numerous people fuckwads, and no blowback…

          • fuow

            Oh, yes – after the election and when the BernieBros were still telling themselves the damage could be limited by ‘sane’ rethugs quite a few of them screamed bloody murder when I called them what they are.

          • barrixines

            When we talk about Sarandoning, usually the sainted Susan is top of the list. But seeing as this is a gay blog – Colby Keller – I hope his bollocks drop off.

  • DaddyRay

    Sam Brownback – False Profit

    • kareemachan

      Ain’t that the truth.

    • Rolf

      Brownbacking: the act of sodomy with a bottom that doesn’t douche.
      In other words, he’s just full of it.

  • DaddyRay

    Could you imagine him meeting with a Ambassador of Religious Freedom from Iran

    • clay

      or Myanmar,
      or China,
      or North Korea,
      or Pakistan,
      or India,
      or Indonesia,
      or Malaysia,
      or Saudi Arabia,
      or Sudan?

      • DaddyRay

        They do have a lot of common ground – hating gays, controlling women and their reproductive rights, enshrining their religious BS in law

        • cleos_mom

          Sort of like in US politics, where the mentality of left and right are close to identical when you get to either edge.

    • Silver Badger

      Yes. It makes me smile.

  • Halou

    Ambassador-at-large for international religious freedom?
    In that case I would like to get his opinion on this little issue. Or perhaps the concern being expressed by Russian evangelicals at the hostility and abuse they are receiving from Orthodox authorities.
    http://www.christianitytoday.com/news/2017/march/russia-liquidate-jehovahs-witnesses-evangelicals.html

    Maybe he can also explain to us what the Trump regime is doing in response to events since 2014, when Orthodox (Moscow Patriarchate) militia and Russian “not soldiers” seized control of several Orthodox (Kyiv Patriarchate) churches in the occupied territories of Ukraine and began using them as ammunition depots in brazen violation of international laws of war.

  • LovesIrony

    These same shits that scream religious freedom deny rastafarians their ganja

    • Halou

      If I recall correctly the Religious Freedom Act was amended a couple of decades ago because, as part of the failed “war on drugs”, Native Americans were being arrested for performing various rituals relevant to their religious beliefs.
      But that was then, if this issue were coming to the fore now I doubt the law would be amended, or if it was it would be to increase rather than alleviate the pressure on non-christian, non-evangelical faiths.

      • Friday

        And for some reason the last thing the Christianists are interested in is the standard of ‘reasonable accommodation.’ That’s cause they want to impose their way on everyone with state power, not just have any of their own practices accommodated. (Never mind allow anyone else to be, say, actual minority religions.)

  • TheGrandWazoo2

    Because
    I‘ve
    Got that
    Old
    Time
    Religion
    Y‘all

    • Silver Badger

      Good job!

  • stuckinthewoods

    The Washington Blade article has a bit more on the questioning by Sen. Kaine. https://www.washingtonblade.com/2017/10/04/trumps-religious-freedom-nominee-grilled-anti-lgbt-record/

  • Halou

    “Religious freedom” is commonly interpreted to mean the freedom of religions as a whole to control people they see as belonging to them, rather than the freedom of religious and/or nonreligious individuals to live their own lives the way they want to.

    • Friday

      That’s a typical Dominionist inversion of terms, of course.

  • bambinoitaliano

    Religious institution is the original mad house before the discovery of medical science. The institution persisted like a crack house because it has rooted in our government since the dawn of civilization. Despite of what the scientific community has proven, the inherent fear of the unknown by our species continues to allow this archaic scamming industry to thrive. The original good intention of such institution has since been replaced and taken over by ruthless thugs who only has profit in mind. At least the epi-pen sells by the scumbag Martin Shkreli works. What do these scamvengelists and the politicians behind them have to offer for the human species?

    • Friday’s_cat

      At the dawn of human time on this Mortal Coil, those too weak or lazy to hunt, gather, or protect the tribe became priests or shamans.

      • Friday

        Actually, that’s pure nonsense. Maybe you ought to learn something about the anthropology before pronouncing your judgments. (Also that’s not what ‘this mortal coil’ means. Even my *actual* cat wouldn’t make that mistake. Mostly cause he’s more interested in cat things and helping me work by sitting on things. 🙂 )

        • cleos_mom

          If religion was originally based on control, the aim was to control and manage nature, not other people. Apparently the notion that paleolithic folks were swayed by what they heard on talk ratio and saw on social media dies hard.

  • fuow

    Yeah, this is what comes of not voting. Seriously, if you think things are bad now, wait until the rethugs pick up just two more states in 2018 – they, then, can call a Constitutional Convention and quite literally proclaim their brand of ‘christian’ faith the state religion. Gay rights will be gone forever. Transgender people will think Iran is a good place.
    But, heh – we liberals never learn. Ever.

    • Friday’s_cat

      In 2006 we worked to get Democrats elected to the House and Senate. Nancy Pelosi rewarded us by spitting in our faces with, “Impeachment is off the table”. Since then Democrats have been reaping what Pelosi has sewn.

      • kareemachan

        And your citation is? Cuz trying to blame this on Pelozi is disingenuous and effing stupid.

      • fuow

        I’m not saying that Democrats are perfect – I’m to the left of Bernie on just about everything.
        BUT – in this country we have two choices – the weak, spineless, incompetent Democrats who leave gays and transgender people alone or the hate-driven mother-fucking christers who use the rethugs to attack us and our families directly.
        Those are you choices.
        No other options are on the table.

      • Friday

        Impeachment isn’t off the table cause Pelosi’s somehow able to make it happen and refusing: it’s off the table because we needed Hillary in office for at least two years, more likely four, to even *have* a table, which we tried to warn people like you about before you got this Trumppence in a position to wreck everything in the first place over an ideological purity that isn’t even *popular enough.*

        What part of “We can’t afford to lose this general election” do you still fail to understand? Where did you think a do-over was going to come from?

        • Dean Chambers

          Almost every democrat I personally know that voted for Obama lost faith in the Democratic Party when there was a blanket ban on bringing rethugs like Shrub and Cheney to justice. When we had a temporary control of the government at the beginning of the Obama presidency, we should have come in swinging swords and straightened up the election finance system and held all the military/industrial fat cats that benefited from the Iraq debacle accountable.

          The failure to do so is why we have such indifference to the DNC. Speaking of which, I welcome any and all comments that might tell me who is the actual leader of the Democratic Party. It seems that the party has no leader since Obama left office.

          • cleos_mom

            Almost every democrat I personally know that voted for Obama lost faith in the Democratic Party when there was a blanket ban on bringing rethugs like Shrub and Cheney to justice.

            Well, there ya go. Instant gratification as its own punishment.

  • kareemachan

    Well, we all know that brownback’s a twunt, so….

  • On the heels of a UN vote in which the US voted AGAINST a resolution condemning the death penalty for gay sex, is anyone still going to insist that this administration isn’t anti-lgbt?

  • Barry William Teske

    “The concept of rights, like either the right to do something, or the freedom to do it.
    Its maybe a concept that doesn’t need to exist.”
    – Hot Docs

  • Macbill

    I’m not going back in the fucking closet. Christians will just have to learn to live with others.

    • Clive Johnson

      As a straight guy I’ll be demanding that the only people who need a closet are the people who can’t accept gay people. Stand strong, friend, society will never go back. The bigots are a shrinking minority.

      • Ben in Oakland

        Thank you.

        • Clive Johnson

          Thank you, but please understand that my goal is to reassure, to remind that although its voices might not be frequent enough or loud enough, straight allies are all over the place. I get the sense sometimes here, which I totally get, that it’s LGBT people standing against a bigoted world. Though it’s clear to me that there are tons of bigots out there, it’s also the case that there are many straight allies, and their numbers are surging. Almost every straight person I know anyway is very strong in their support of equality. And, we’re not going away. When I see shit online or in the streets, I act.

          • Ben in Oakland

            And thank you again. 😘

            That’s what some of these bigots just don’t get as they Moan And whine about the big gay Goliath. It’s not just gay people that disagree with them.

          • Clive Johnson

            I’ve lost track of the number of times I’ve been defending equality against some right-winger, only to be chastised for my sinful lifestyle as a gay man. When I mention that I’m straight, it often totally throws them.

  • Ken M

    I still don’t get what these people fear from the LGBT community. With the exception of Marriage ( a big one I know) the LGBT community has NO protections at/from the federal level. We can be denied housing, lose jobs, and in many states, even be denied basic services, like wedding cakes, with little to no defense against these actions. Some states, or cities have some protections. How well they hold up in court, or are even challenged is another question. If anything is spreading like a plague, it’s this false need for “international religious freedom.” More like be “be Christian if you want out help.”

    • They fear our gender rules bending, our way of being able to build a life no matter how laws against us constraints us. We move into a dilapidated community and rebuild it into a revitalized neighborhood, they lived in that area and let it decay. We support rights for women, children and the elderly, they see those groups as something that needs to be punished (women) or tightly controlled (children), or ignored (elderly). We believe in freedom and equality for all, and they want only a very small subset to have those rights.

    • Ben in Oakland

      Long ago, I had hopes to write a chamber opera on a gay subject, but based on the story of Susannah and the Elders. The climactic line was going to be: “we are your best hopes. WE are your worst fears.” I still believe this to be true.

      What we represent is the rejection of certainty– about gender, about sex, about god, about history.this scares the hell out of people who require certainty.

  • canoebum

    Ambassador-at-Large for Religious Freedom? Why is he not in Myanmar right now defending the Muslim Rohingya from persecution at the hands of Buddhists?

    • Stev84

      Because they aren’t fundamentalist Christians

  • Nic Peterson

    So the guy that fucked the KS economy right into a very small hole (the tool ya have is the tool ya use), now wants to be an international ambassador for religious freedom? Sweet FSM we don’t need any more of that shit!

  • David

    “Religious Freedom” is wingnut bullshit for The Final Solition to the Homosexual Question.

  • AmeriCanadian

    Federal prosecutors are pursuing charges against persons involved with female genital mutilation. Since the procedure, likened to circumcision but not at all similar, is defended based on religious grounds, the outcomes of these cases should be very interesting and perhaps useful against other so-called “religious freedom” arguments.

    http://www.wxyz.com/news/region/detroit/minnesota-mothers-charged-in-metro-detroit-female-genital-mutilation-case

  • Raising_Rlyeh

    Because he sure did a fucking amazing job in KS /s

  • The_Wretched

    Brownback belongs in jail for destroying the economy of Kansas. Even the conservative republicans in the Kansas legislature eventually pushed back on Brownback’s idiotic fiscal policy.

  • Gene Perry

    Kansas … where the men are men and the sheep are nervous.

    • cleos_mom

      Drive across western Kansas and you’ll get a hint as to why!

  • Renfield

    I’m sure glad the Log Cabin Republicans views are respected by trump. Keep it up, boys!

  • Rebecca Gardner

    WTF is a Religious Freedom Ambassador?

    • Friday

      The opposite of what it sounds like. Imposing Theocracy is of course the opposite of religious freedom.

    • -M-

      Under Republicans, wannabe theocrats, and other fascists, it’s the opposite of what it should be.

  • Fritz C Stadig

    AND THEN WE WONDER WHY THIS COUNTRY IS GETTING SO FUCKED UP!

  • pgarayt

    Ya, lets trust the guy who decimated his states economy.

  • Jay Silversmith

    Religion is a CHOICE. Brownback has chosen to destroy Kansas with his religious freedoms.

  • Tomcat

    How can a country that has a constitution that says religion cannot control any of the government appoint an Ambassador to International Religious Freedoms.
    That would be against our constitution.
    What next Ambassador of International Hatred for Mankind?

  • Tomcat

    TAX RELIGIONS and let them run for politics. Oh wait, they already have a right to run for politics without having to pay any taxes. How GOP.

  • John Ruff

    Talk about a bullshit title.

  • Tomcat

    Trump appoints Ambassador of International Fascism. Or is that actually him.

    • coram nobis

      No, Ambassador of the Holy Inquisition.

  • KnownDonorDad

    Trying to fail upward again.

  • andrew

    What we really need is an International Freedom From Religions Ambassador.

  • malerider

    I would love to know just where this ambassador ship came from? who voted to authorize it. In what bill is the money to pay for it in? Our less then illustrious has been busy cutting the state dept. I guess to pay for this bozo’s 150,000 a year salary.

  • JCF
  • cleos_mom

    And, as usual, the American Association of NALT Churches isn’t saying diddlysquat.