Bump Stocks Sell Out Nationwide Over Ban Fears

The Guardian reports:

Bump stocks are selling out across America as momentum gathers in Congress to ban the rifle modification used by the Las Vegas shooter to obtain catastrophically high rates of fire. The devices are sold out or temporarily unavailable from all the largest gun and ammunition retailers in the US, as fear of an impending ban has sent many gun enthusiasts hoarding.

“Will I be able to order sometime soon? I want to get one before there is a push to make them illegal,” one commenter posted on the Facebook page of Bump Fire Systems, one of three major US manufacturers of the devices. The company’s website had been down for more than two days citing “high traffic volume.”

Major online sporting good retailers like Cabelas, Cheaper Than Dirt and Walmart were all sold out of the devices as of Thursday morning. Slide Fire, the first and largest manufacturer of the devices reported on its website that it had “decided to temporarily suspend taking new orders”.

  • Mark Née Fuzz

    Everyone who bought one needs to be on a watchlist. Pronto.

    • friendlynerd

      I’m way more concerned about people who buy these than people who buy too much Sudafed.

      • Mark Née Fuzz

        i suspect there’s a great deal of overlap between those two groups.

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    • canoebum

      There is not even a national database of gun owners. The NRA won’t permit it, claiming it’s just the first step in “confiscation”. If the Feds have no idea who owns how many military grade semi-auto rifles, how could they ever create a database of machine gun owners?

      • Mark Née Fuzz

        Yet, didn’t somebody propose a list of everyone who visited an anti-Trump site or something like that?

        • David Walker

          That’s different. There’s a real possibility that the anti-Trump people have brains and could stand ready to use them. Armed and dangerous, except that doesn’t seem to have happened yet.

        • Nra membership list.

        • Uncle Mark

          But that’s our DOJ, not the FBI. Fucking Sessions is more worried about dissenters and “reverse discrimination” at Harvard than he is over anything to actually help this country

        • canoebum

          The 2nd Amendment is more important than the 1st Amendment, obviously, 2 is greater than 1.

      • Skokieguy [Larry]

        There IS a database, and the NRA owns it. For example:

        Thank you for purchasing a firearm from Taurus.
        We’re committed to growing the National Rifle Association.

        To receive your FREE one-year NRA membership from Taurus – a $35 value – click on the link below, complete the form and send it along with a copy of the store receipt (retain the original for your
        records) to:…

      • FAEN

        The NRA has the database of gun owners. That’s the irony of it all.

      • Uncle Mark

        Let’s not forget that these fuckers are opposed to the “gov’t intrusion” of checking into the mental health history of a purchaser. They have no problem with the “right” of every gun owner to deny their fellow American their right to life, liberty & their pursuit of happiness…all denied with one bullet.

        Even their Saint Reagan was fine with this “intrusion” after getting shot by a mentally disturbed individual. It’s a shame that this also didn’t convince that dotard of the necessity of mental institutions…and even the Brady Bill took 12 years to pass after the shooting. Republicans are vile.

        • canoebum

          Oh, that’s nothing. Last year in Iowa they passed a law allowing BLIND PEOPLE to carry firearms in public.

          • boatboy_srq

            Somebody in IA must think s/he’s Chirrut Imwe.

          • Nowhereman

            Now that is, uh–words fail me.

      • TrueWords

        The NRA has successful blocked MANY things:

        1. Concealed carry reciprocity
        The NRA is backing two bills currently being considered by the US Senate that would extend the right to carry concealed weapons right across the US. The Begich-Manchin and Thune-Vitter bills would override the laws of almost every state by forcing them to allow people with out-of-state concealed carry permits to carry a hidden loaded gun, even in cases where the individual would not have qualified for a permit in that particular state. The Thune bill goes further – it would allow people from states that don’t even require permits to carry hidden guns throughout the country.

        2. Private gun sales loophole
        Under existing federal law, unlicensed gun sellers are allowed to sell weapons without a background check of the buyer at gun shows and other private sales. Paradoxically, only licensed dealers are required to conduct such background checks, which gun control advocates see as crucial in cutting off the supply of weapons to criminals and mentally unstable individuals. The NRA strongly opposes legislation that would close this glaring loophole by requiring background checks for all gun sales.

        3. Terror watch list
        The NRA has strongly opposed legislation to prohibit the sale of guns to people on the federal government’s terrorist watch list. Under current law, a suspected terrorist can be put on the no-fly list and be kept off a plane, but can’t be prevented from buying a gun.

        4. Stand-your-ground laws
        The NRA successfully lobbied for Florida’s stand-your-ground law in 2005, the same shoot-first provision that was invoked by Trayvon Martin’s killer, George Zimmerman. Working with Alec, the NRA has encouraged the passage of similar legislation in 24 other states, and now it is actively pursuing bills that would codify similar legislation in at least seven states: Colorado, Massachusetts, Minnesota (where the bill was vetoed by governor), Nebraska, New Jersey, New York and Washington.

        5. Guns on campuses
        This year, at least 14 states have introduced 35 bills, with NRA encouragement, that would allow students and faculty to carry concealed weapons on the campuses of state colleges and universities, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures. Alec, too, has put forward a model bill for guns on campuses. Remarkably, the argument is often made that having hidden guns on campus would help prevent another Virginia Tech, America’s deadliest shooting by a single gunman, in which 33 people were killed in April 2007.

        6. Guns in schools
        NRA-backed gun proponents have tried in several states to pass legislation eliminating “gun-free zones” and allowing weapons in elementary schools and even day-care centres. In February, the Georgia state assembly considered – though did not pass – HR 981, which would have made it legal to carry guns on college campuses, elementary and secondary schools, state mental hospitals and bars.

        7. Guns in the workplace
        For several years the NRA has pushed legislation prohibiting businesses and employers from banning guns in locked cars in parking lots. It has been successful in several states, including Florida and Utah, and is currently pushing for passage in Tennessee. Indiana and North Dakota have enacted laws allowing employees to sue if they are asked about gun possession at work.

        8. Guns in bars and restaurants
        The NRA has also been lobbying for several years to expand the right to carry hidden loaded guns into bars and restaurants.

        9. Tracing guns used in shootings
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        In 2004, a Republican congressman from Kansas, Todd Tiahrt, a long-time ally of the NRA, added an amendment to bill regarding the bureau of alcohol, tobacco, firearms and explosives (ATF). Until that point, data had been kept on the history of guns used in murders and shootings, which allowed police and policymakers to trace them back to corrupt dealerships and other holes in the system. The rule change, known as the Tiahrt amendment, made this data much harder to acquire. It also forced the justice department to destroy within 24 hours the records of any gun buyer whose background check was approved. The overall impact of the amendments was to make it much harder for police to clamp down on illegally distributed guns.

        10. Revoking licences from corrupt dealers
        The NRA has made several attempts to usher through Congress an “ATF reform bill” that would make it much harder – some say virtually impossible – to revoke the gun-selling licenses of crooked dealers. If the bill passed – and the NRA is expected to try again soon – the ATF would have to prove the dealer’s state of mind, in terms of his or her premeditated intention to break the law.

      • boatboy_srq

        There probably IS a national database that has records on gun owners. It’s just more commonly known as Facebook.

        Give the ammosexuals the opportunity to self-identify, and they’ll do it every time. Just keep it under private enterprise and not a federal program

      • Nowhereman

        And Trump has done away with the CDC studying the effects of gun violence as a health issue.

    • Skokieguy [Larry]

      Remember if you’re on the terrorist watch list, you’ll totally sail through a background check, because our Congress is both stupid and evil.

    • Jeffrey

      Exactly what I said first thing this morning. And in another administration that might have happened.

    • Paula

      There is no list that shows who bought them.

      • Joe in PA

        Freedom! Fuck yeah!

        I’m sad for this country.

    • Frostbite

      Sorry the watch lists are already full with leftist traitors, oh and minorities.

    • George

      Yeah, because you can never have enough of government in everyone’s lives.

  • Tawreos

    The NRA taught these idiots well. Fear for the guns first, and human lives second.

  • JeffreyNdallas

    What the hell? Are they all so scared of an apocalypse that they need to be battle ready. I just don’t get it.

    • bkmn

      Yes, the NRA stokes the morons with paranoia

    • Judas Peckerwood

      They ARE the fucking apocalypse.

    • David Walker

      Partly. But partly because they need to keep up with the Joneses in matters of the latest gun apparel.

  • bkmn

    Death merchants

  • Mike C

    How were these ever legal to begin with? I thought the goddamn talking point on Monday when the blood was still warm was that this guys weapons were all “illegal anyway”. Fuck these people and fuck their guns. I haven’t stopped being angry as hell since the beginning of the week. So. Sick. Of. It.

    • KarenAtFOH

      The law is carefully worded to make any “modification” to a semi automatic weapon illegal. A bump stock is not considered a modification. There are $50 kits you can buy to convert an AR or AK to full auto, but you have to take them apart and replace some of the trigger parts. That is illegal unless you have a federal license to do it.

      • Chucktech

        Seems to me if you have such a “Federal license,” you could just buy a fully automatic assault rifle to begin with. Why dick around with mod kits?

      • Mike C

        It’s so disgusting. Carefully worded so as to allow basically unchecked availability and maximum carnage. Why would anyone ever need this except to pull of the kind of massacre we saw on Sunday? Absolutely blood boiling.

    • Friday

      These stocks are *made* to skirt the letter of the law. In performance they’re actually inferior to the illegal modifications by a long ways.

  • Mark Née Fuzz

    If, IF, Congress passed the ban, would Trump sign and would it be veto proof?

    • bkmn

      It depends on whether the NRA would let them – if it is only third party companies making the bump stocks the NRA would be fine with shutting them out. But if any of the bump stock makers are part of the gun manufacturing cartel the NRA would not stand for it.

      • KarenAtFOH

        Are you kidding? The NRA loves the accessory business. I was viewing some bump stock and full auto videos on YouTube yesterday. The gun people go absolutely orgasmic when they pull the trigger and empty a high capacity magazine with one.

  • TheManicMechanic

    And the NRA and arms manufacturers laugh all the way to the bank.

    • bkmn

      and back, as they step over corpses and mangled bodies.

    • Mark Née Fuzz

      What’s that sound I hear? Oh, it’s an NRA pen scatching against blank check stock.

    • boatboy_srq

      More and more, the NRA and GoA look less like advocacy groups and more like Big Tobacco. They know their product is toxic, but rather than address that, they obfuscate and misdirect.

  • RemusL

    The NRA knows shooting massacres are great for business.

    • David Walker

      Gun manufacturers’ stocks went up Monday morning, right on cue.

  • MORE!! MORE!!!
    We need more of this.
    In fact, let anyone with a heartbeat buy a gun.
    Then after everyone has a gun(s), we should deregulate cars. If you can get a gun, you can drive. No training, no license, nothing.
    Then deregulate cigarettes. Teen smoking? who gives a fuck.
    Afer that, we can FUCKING DEREGULATE EVERYTHING.
    Let’s see how maga (eyeroll) we are after that.
    Fuck this country and all it has become.

    • Tawreos

      You’re quoting from the GOP platform aren’t you? Remember though, they will always want to regulate gays and gay marriage because that is where the danger lies.

      • jerry

        And vaginas…

        • Todd20036

          Wait, you can drive a vagina?

          • jerry

            Not me…never tried. And my reply was to Tawreos regarding regulating gays and gay marriage.

          • JCF

            Hell Yes You Can!!! Drive It WILD! 😀

    • BJORN RAGNVALDR

      Don’t forget to take those safety warning stickers off of everthing, “you’re toddler choked to death on a LEGO? You sure missed a bullet there, would have probably grown up a liberal. “

      • UrsusArctos

        FUCK choking toddlers. Stepping on a LEGO brick barefoot is the REAL hazard.

    • UrsusArctos

      Totally lawless cars/guns are bad enough, thank you. Road rage shootings are nothing new, hell even the gals are getting in on it. http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=94811

  • Butch

    We have become a nation of cowards and bed wetters. I’m just ashamed.

  • PickyPecker
  • Ninja0980

    All of these people are cowardly pieces of shit, simple as that.

  • danolgb

    It would be nice to hold the manufacturers of such devices liable. Now who voted against that again?

    • Stev84

      If baking a cake is participating in a gay wedding, then selling someone a gun is participating in murder

    • Adam King

      I can’t bring myself to patronize any retailer who sells guns or murder supplies. Too bad–Cabela’s has some nice stuff.

      • peacfulseas inWA

        That they do but most items are available elsewhere. I won’t even pull into parking lot. Several years ago a gay man took a position in another state within Cabela’s management. He was an out gay man with husband and children and management was aware. Long story short after moving his family and settling into the job he was either pushed out or fired, maybe someone with a better memory than I can fill the blanks.

      • boatboy_srq

        You should see Gunder Mountain (deliberately misspelled). Here’s where you get your gun. Here’s where you get your accessories for your gun. Here’s where you get your outdoor wear for when you’re out with your gun. Here’s where you get your camping gear for when you’re out with your gun. Here’s where your lady friend gets her gear for when she’s out with you and your gun. On and on and on.

  • Lazycrockett

    Can’t wait for the NRA to start pushing for The Purge.

  • Ninja0980

    https://twitter.com/axios/status/915972573300539393
    Just to make your day even more fun.

    • bkmn

      Blackheart is a more apt name for her

    • Adam King

      Slogan: “Burn the Blacks with Blackburn!”

    • ultragreen

      She looks like another mentally unhinged and hypocritical Bible-thumper.

  • Joe in PA

    What is wrong with people?

  • Max_1

    I don’t understand how a bump stock protects my home…

    • Lazycrockett

      Its great for tenderizing deer meat.

      • Max_1

        But I don’t prep the deer with the Second Amend…

    • Adam King

      If your home is attacked by hundreds of crazed concertgoers…

      • Friday

        Then you want controlled fire, not badly-controlled full auto-ish emptying of magazines, of course.

      • KarenAtFOH

        Put out a boom box on the front step playing Barry Manilow at full volume.

      • paganguy

        … or zombies. Because really, that’s what they’re convinced they’re preparing for now. In their world, anyone not them = stupid = brainless = zombies. And when it all crashes (which in their heart of hearts, they’re hoping for because they and they alone will rise from the ashes to reclaim their rightful place in something something), they will BE PREPARED.

        • David Walker

          But only if they’ve bought Jim Bakker’s Buckets o’ Barf.

          • paganguy

            I almost think I’d rather eat brains. Almost.

        • ultragreen

          You can’t kill zombies, no matter how many bullets you pump into them. They are the undead. These ammosexuals are going to have an unpleasant surprise when the zombie apocalypse occurs.

    • Friday

      It’s like ridiculously-extended pistol magazines, ….if you’re actually trying to protect yourself, the unreliability of that gimmick should mean you don’t want it. Such things are *only* useful for mass-shootings and overheating barrels showing off at the range. Trusting your life to gimmick weapons and accessories is usually no help and is generally stupid. And people just having fun with that, well, it’s not worth arming mass-shooters over.

      • KarenAtFOH

        THIS

  • worstcultever
    • Lars Littlefield

      This is brilliant!

  • Lazycrockett
    • Joe in PA

      I hope that contractor goes to (or is in) jail. Stupid fuck. Good grief, the hoops that we all jumped through just to be in the same room as the classified servers…and this putz just downloaded the stuff. Also, I can’t believe the NSA doesn’t disable access to any external device.

      • Chucktech

        Can’t read the article because of the paywall, but hubby, who used to travel in those circles, says that’s exactly right. Worker bees like contractors have to sign out a hard drive and put it in a computer that has no other drives or USB ports. Once he’s done, of course, he has to take the hard drive out and sign it back in.

    • Friday

      Drumph defending and protecting this is actually getting to the level of high treason at this point.

  • Skokieguy [Larry]

    Can’t let the gun grabers take away our ability to commit mass murder now can we? Right after I pick up my bump stock, so my weapon can function similar to a machine gun, I’m gonna to spend a few hours at Parenthood, protesting those baby killer.

    Every life is sacred! All lives matter!

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/0082023ca237ba228336e9f3eab3f72d8d4bfd723cb17836e1a8b48316a5ada8.jpg

    • Mark Née Fuzz

      Or firing that enhanced firearm thru the windows at Parenthood.

  • Lars Littlefield

    In Equally Important News: http://www.sltrib.com/news/nation-world/2017/10/05/santa-is-dead-archaeologists-say/

    Archaeologists in southern Turkey say they have discovered the tomb of the original Santa Claus, also known as St. Nicholas, beneath his namesake church near the Mediterranean Sea. And he’s dead.

    The more you know.

  • Max_1

    Nowhere in the 2nd Amend. does it say buy or use…
    … Congress needs to do it’s job and lookout for the welfare of the Nation.

    Regulate ownership to one… Limit use to capability and sanity…

    • (((GC)))

      The “individual right” to firearms was only created by the Supreme Court at the behest of the gun lobby in 2008.
      The ugly truth is that the Founders’ intent for the Second Amendment was to protect states against a federal standing army, and to ensure that slave patrols could operate unhindered, capturing enslaved people who had escaped.

      There’s a reason the amendment’s text says “a free state” rather than “nation” or “country”. That was necessary to get it ratified.

      So Few Americans Understand What the Second Amendment Is Really About—or Its Dark History
      https://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/repeal-second-amendment

  • PickyPecker
    • Tatonka

      Well, in all fairness they are standing in a Target.

    • TK

      And notice the store is TARGET! Maybe they can practice…

      • boatboy_srq

        Betcha they wouldn’t have been packing heat in Walmart.

    • KarenAtFOH

      They’re on their way to guard the bathrooms.

      • Octoberfurst

        No doubt they heard transpeople go there.

    • Paula

      These people piss me off so much. I don’t know what they are trying to prove.
      Just because you can do something, doesn’t mean you should.

    • Lars Littlefield

      I have seen this in real life. We immediately left the store.

      • Chucktech

        You should tell the management why you are leaving the store.

        • Lars Littlefield

          Ideally, yes. But for our safety it was best just to get the hell out of there ASAP.

          • Chucktech

            Well….. maybe if the asshole was brandishing it, but if they were just walking around smugly and entitled, I’d have definitely gone to the management.

      • peacfulseas inWA

        My wife and I would have pointed and laughed as we left the store.

    • Rebecca Gardner

      So I simply come up behind them with a knife and immediately take their weapon. What is the point of all this stupidity?

      • Chucktech

        “Goll durn it, yew done took muh guhn!”

        • David Walker

          “Teach her a lesson, Junior.”

    • Uncle Mark

      Oh what sweet Christian fun they must be when Christmas shopping on Black Friday. Onward Christian soldiers, marching unto sales.

      • David Walker

        I’m having a hard time distinguishing between real memory and “might as well have happened”s, but I think that happened last year.

    • ultragreen

      That is just nuts. I would never live in a state that allowed this.

  • KnownDonorDad

    They’re not ammosexuals, they’re ammomaniacs.

  • liondon#iamnotatraitor

    Healthcare should have it’s own amendment

  • barrixines

    I think it should be compulsory for you all to be armed. At all times. All conflict resolution to be done down the barrel of an automatic rifle. You can’t believe it’s not butter – I can. BOOM Was that you or the dog? Woof! KA-BOOM Susan Heyward in I Want To Live gave a better performance than Maria Montez in Cobra Woman? KA-BOOM-BOOM-BOOM. This will have the effect of whittling out the bad guys with the guns because obviously a good guy with a gun is the only thing that can stop them. And if you shoot first – good guy. Obviously millions are going to die but how are you going to get a seat for Bette’s Dolly otherwise? Just remember to shoot that malcontent who says he would have rather waited for Bernadette.

    • David Walker

      I was good until the Susan Heyward/Maria Montez insult. As Cliff says in “Boys in the Band” re: Ms Montez, “She was a good woman.” But you raise a very good point concerning the “Dolly” tickets. Bernadette is all right, but she’s too young, and Reba was better in “Annie Get Your Gun,” so it’s Bette or nobody! What? Suh, Ah slap yo face with my calfskin glove and challenge you to a duel. Or is that a dual? Or maybe a duet? Oh, fuck. The brain going away again.

      • barrixines

        You’re vexing me, David, you’re vexing me – don’t make me reach for my purse.

    • Rebecca Gardner

      Wasn’t it Carlin who said…
      Do you believe in God?
      Yes.
      Do you believe in MY God?
      No
      KA-BOOM!

  • Rebecca Gardner

    I’m a gun owner. I was even a firearms instructor. What sick fucking mind sees what happened in Las Vegas and immediately thinks, “I gotta get me one of these!” They should be illegal nationwide.

    • Todd20036

      The same sick fuck who thinks it’s fun to kill nearly 60 people.

      • boatboy_srq

        And the same ones ths ones that think voting against the death penalty for queerness is necessary to maintain the privilege of offing perps convicted of far, FAR worse offenses as if the two were somehow related.

        And the same ones that think they need three thousand guns in their home just because some terrorist wingnut in Yemen knows how to make a bomb, or because there’s Teh Blah Peeps in their neighborhood who walk around with Skittles.

    • Paula

      Same here. At one time, the NRA ran some great gun safety and shooting programs. Now, they have descended into the same madness that grips the repubican party. its 100% politics.

      • Rebecca Gardner

        When I was a kid the NRA was a completely different organization. Today, you are right, it’s all about politics and money. Not gun safety and education. It’s why I stopped my membership about 5 years ago and will never join again.

    • ultragreen

      It’s a power trip and a status symbol to own such stuff among some groups of people (mainly morons).

  • fuzzybits
  • Lazycrockett

    If the government thought you were a threat the amount of guns has nothing to do with them droning your ass 1000 miles remotely from your home.

  • FancyThat

    The frenzy to buy bump stocks is premature and unnecessary.

    Mitch & Corey and the NRA-bought GOP legislators will make sure that no knee-jerk restrictions are legislated.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/050121149ad40aa2bc172953e366cd7fa80142dd52a8ebbc874cc760a0ffbe1e.jpg

    • David Walker

      …McConnell said, politicizing the event.

    • Lazycrockett

      Oh I didn’t realize they were fenced in.

      • KarenAtFOH

        Those are typically used to separate the general audience from VIP or the front of the stage.

    • Adam King

      Because politics has nothing whatsoever to do with social order.

    • KarenAtFOH

      Sorry, have to flag this. Joe has asked us to refrain from posting victim images.

      • FancyThat

        Here’s the easy-listening, thoughts and prayers, feel-sad facebook cry version. (Several more available from Littleton, Aurora, San Bernadino, Orlando, Newtown, etc, etc. ) No doubt there will be many more to come — maybe there’s even a YouTube channel.

        All victims. Each and every one — but perhaps if people see the carnage of these weapons instead of highlight prom photos, they will be more inclined to get involved to prevent the next Sarah McLachlan slide show. It’s time to be angry and active, not silent, complacent or afraid to speak up.
        https://youtu.be/i3TIUJV-O2A

    • Rebecca Gardner

      Please don’t post those pictures. I’m crying my eyes out.

      • FancyThat

        I thought about not posting the photo. It’s as difficult to see as watching Ken Burn’s Viet Nam. But truly, this is a war — and the NRA is winning. The photo is real as real as it gets, and we are ALL victims of the GOP’s inaction.

  • Paula

    This is their typical reaction. Gun sales will go through the roof, also. Whenever they think that somebody might take something away from them, they do this.
    Congress need to make the bump stocks illegal to own or possess, too.

    • David Walker

      With no “grandfather” clause. That would be impressive, wouldn’t it? A congress with a spine?

      • Paula

        A grandfather clause will make all the difference. Since there are very few records of who has them, I don’t expect many of them would be turned in. They would remove and hide them. They’re waiting for the evil guv’mint to come and take them.
        I have worked at a couple of different gun shops, I know what these people are like. I always hated dealing with the redneck type.

        • boatboy_srq

          …and by “the redneck type”, you really mean Confederates, yes?

  • Friday

    Bunch of sickoes buying up the things, though to be fair it does seem some suppliers have actually suspended sales of the things rather than trying to sell out their stocks.

  • Matt

    I wonder if these ammosexuals put the barrel of their guns up their asses when they jerk off (loaded or not). They seriously, literally get off on this stuff.

    Sorry for the crude mental image, but I’ve often wondered how many of them DO this.

  • Max_1

    Seriously… There is a Tweet for everything…
    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/280754630047199232

    • Lizard

      I look forward to the inevitable scholarly work that records and dissects his tweets before and after the presidency.

    • KarenAtFOH

      LOL! If only trump had let Obama speak for him in Puerto Rico.

      • RemusL

        45 should let Obama speak for him at all official functions. /s

  • Lazycrockett

    Also ponder this 3% of citizens own half of all the guns in this country.

  • Rex

    The United States of America is no longer a civilized nation.

    • Max_1

      A civilized society protects their own…
      … An uncivilized society arms to kill their own.

    • ultragreen

      There are still small parts of America that can be considered civilized. However, most of the country is being overrun by barbarians.

  • Lizard

    Okay, I have a question for someone who understands ammosexuals better than I do. Why would anyone buy one of these things if they weren’t planning to use it? Just to have it? Status within the NRA? Why?

    • David Walker

      Call it “keeping up with the Bubbas.”

    • Lazycrockett

      I blame it on men with small penises.

      • Joe in PA

        Couldn’t they just get a pair of truck nuts or something?

        • Lizard

          I see where you’re coming from, but I was a bus driver for 18 months. I’ve seen more truck nuts than anyone should have to in a lifetime. So please no.

    • Friday

      Hobbyists don’t have to be psychoes or paranoid to enjoy shooting things in safer arrangements, whether they’re yahoos or just like the mechanicalness of it. It’s like, why build a drag race car you can’t really drive on the street, there could be testosterone involved or it being kind of a technical and skill challenge. Some of my old friends really like firearms and are very down-to earth people, but honestly at the range especially one of those friends would be interested in trying the things just cause they’re a kind of weird design, even if he’d likely deride it as actually useless afterwards.

      He’d also, I’m sure, tell you that ‘fun’ just isn’t a good enough reason for these things to be out there for any maniac to use for massacres or something.

    • KarenAtFOH

      I think there is a huge adrenaline rush when they fire them. Adrenaline is a hell of a drug.

      • Friday

        That’s closer than just the usual insults, (as much as those can conspicuously apply sometimes) as actual ‘understanding’ or analysis goes. Some people do just find it *fun,* which of itself wouldn’t be a problem if the same sorts of things weren’t otherwise basically only useful to those who have extremely-not-fun-for-everyone actions in mind.

        • KarenAtFOH

          I get the fun part. It’s kinda fun for me to use my air nail gun. But I watched guys on YouTube yesterday blasting a pile of watermelons with full auto, and giggling like little kids. A watermelon blows apart like a person’s head, complete with red splatter. Then some of them were getting a kick out of shooting 50 cal rounds through a perfectly good, live tree. Some people think putting firecrackers in a frog and setting them off is a fun time. If someone is having fun with a tool designed to kill, they need to rethink their idea of fun.

          • Friday

            I think they just need to re-evaluate if a particular thing they think fun is worth putting in the hands of people who think that way. For instance, I think I have every right to performance-mod a car. I don’t think I have a right to drive around with no brakes, and I sure don’t want ‘no brakes’ to be legal.

      • Lizard

        Why can’t they just ride a roller coaster or go skydiving like normal people?!

    • MikeBx2

      Many nuts will buy them now with hopes of selling them to even bigger nuts without giving a thought to what the buyer is planning to use it for.

    • JustDucky

      Masturbatory aid.

      https://youtu.be/AJlWap5_Sgs

      Seriously though, the men who buy this kind of thing really do fantasize about being the hero in a dystopian action movie — fall of civilization survival of the fittest type shit. They live boring, average lives but they are made miserable by the thought of being boring, average people. They buy into straight white male exceptionalism, they believe that they really are exceptional, and they believe that it’s everyone else’s fault that their lives don’t reflect that.

      • Phillip in L.A.

        Probably a correct analysis, both no way am I clicking on that!

        • JustDucky

          LOL

          Here’s a transcript of the first part:

          Phone sex style commercial: Late night? Can’t sleep? I know what’s on your mind. Fantasy. Ultimate fantasy. You want to save your wife and kids from an intruder in your home with that baseball bat you keep under the bed so they’ll respect you again. Respect. At Men’s Ultimate Fantasy Hotline we’ll make you their ultimate protector. We’ll make you feel like a man.

  • AdamTh

    If the NRA Congress did somehow pass a bill to ban those things, Donnie would surely VETO it…

    But Ryan & Turtle will never let such a bill get to a vote.

    • David Walker

      Besides, making silencers more readily available and the bill making armor-piercing bullets legal are already written.

      • KarenAtFOH

        Just a 2 liter coke bottle works quite well as a silencer. But it is currently illegal to even use that. Which I agree with. I think the silencer thing is about gun addicts being able to get their fix without having to be inconvenienced by the “sissy” ear protectors.

  • Adam King

    Bellum omnium contra omnes.

    • Dreaming Vertebrate

      Seems Thomas Hobbes foresaw the Trump era – where everyone is at war with everyone.

  • bkmn

    FYI – the NRA prohibits bump stocks on their own firing ranges…

    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/10/05/nra-bump-stock-ban-firing-ranges-243495

    • Max_1

      But the manufacturers they support love the revenue…

    • AdamTh

      Only because they fear people may lose control of the weapons and shoot-up the ceiling or walls……

      • Friday

        They’re inherently much-less-controlled. I honestly probably wouldn’t even try one at the range and I have had training in full auto. Probably would play Hel with my arthritis one way or another.

    • Paula

      Most ranges do. They are referred to as a spray and pray weapon.
      Essentially, that is what the gunman did. He just sprayed bullets at the crowd.
      It was by chance that a particular person got hit.
      Get rid of these stocks.

  • Lazycrockett
    • Lizard

      If anyone needs me, I’ll be repeatedly banging my face into my desk.

    • Uncle Mark

      These fucking, entitled, thieving weasels are beyond redemption. We should have thrown them all in jail and left them there for the good of society. Instead they’re still working on ways to fuck over the common man for their own enrichment

  • Mike

    Weapons whose only conceivable use is mass murder should handled legally like child porn, illegal to own, to possess, to traffic in, or for ammosexuals to have their prints on it in any way.

    • Friday

      You’ll notice that a lot of the things useful to mass-shooters like ridiculously over-capacity magazines or autofire-contraptions are not the choice of professionals. Or in fact practical defensive things to chunk around all the time.

  • Jeffrey

    This is everything that is wrong with this country in a nutshell.

    • Tomcat

      NOT EVERYTHING!!!!

      • Jeffrey

        In this I see ignorance and entitlement taking precedence over facts and human lives. That is certainly a start for what’s wrong here.

  • FAEN

    Too many fucking paranoid people who have access to guns.

  • Tomcat

    Too soon to talk about gun laws, but never too soon to buy out all the gun supplies out there.

    • Todd20036

      people are still not talking about Sandy Hook

      • David Walker

        But that’s because it never happened. And according to the same source, this never really happened. Democrats plot this sort of thing out all the time, apparently. And then there’s the phony hurricane thing, obviously actors standing in front of green screens with CGI devastation behind them. You never saw 45 stand in front of “clogged roads” and “cities and towns with no power.” (/s, especially since Alex Jones said it.) We will never talk about Sandy Hook. We will never talk about Pulse. We will never talk about LV or Columbine or any of them because we are always out-shouted, out-screamed, out-spent, and out-maneuvered.

        • Todd20036

          And more people die, mostly on our side.

  • FAEN

    This is so fucked up-access to a gun is a right but healthcare is a privilege.

    How come we have our priorities this screwed up?

    • Tomcat

      WE is not correct. As a nation the majority wants the opposite.
      Unfortunately the minority runs the country now.

      • FAEN

        Well said.

    • Ken M

      They had guns when the Constitution was written, They didn’t need to include something as ridiculous as heath care back then.

      • CB

        Right because the poor were considerate enough to die without being a burden on the state. /s

      • ultragreen

        There were no hospitals (except maybe for the poor in one or two cities) when the U.S. Constitution was written, and doctors were more likely to harm their patients than help them. Remember, this was a time period when ‘blood-letting’ was popular and no one used sterilized medical instruments on their patients. Thus, health care at that time was more of a curse and a form of torture than a human right.

  • Tomcat

    NRA wants firing squads brought back.

  • Barry William Teske

    “We tend to imagine that we can only become addicted to a few sorts of things. But real addiction is about using something, anything, to keep our real emotions, fears and hopes at bay. There are many more addicts among us than we think.”
    – Alain De Botton

  • Ken M

    The primary reason the NRA changed it’s position on gun control, was because they wanted to have a stable militia against the Federal Government, ie following the Second Amendment. At that point their message stopped being prepare, as in teach safety and properly train, to over stocking weapons, just in case.

    • Chucktech
      • Ken M

        Until the 70s, “well regulated” didn’t refer to quantity of fire arms, it referred to the capability to properly use them. While the words didn’t change, SCOTUS allowed the broader definition .

        • Chucktech

          SCOTUS allowed gun nuts to bleep right over “Well regulated militia.”

      • Pip

        They look like a new TLC show. Redneck Charlie’s Angels.

      • David Walker

        Do beer bellies stop bullets? Asking for a friend.

        • Friday

          To a degree, kinda. Sometimes.

        • ultragreen

          No, they just make the surgery from bullet wounds more bloody and painful.

  • Raising_Rlyeh

    Because you really need to turn a gun into an effectively full-auto weapon. Fucking idiots. There is no god-damn reason for these things.

    • Pip

      Luckily, most folks don’t know how to properly install these in a way that keeps the gun from jamming.

    • Friday

      Dubiously-effectively, especially without some kind of setup like this mass shooter used.

  • Jean-Marc in Canada

    Murika truly is a nation of shit in their pants wimps who are terrified of their own shadow…because, you know, it’s black.

    America, on the other hand, needs to reign Murika in.

  • Michael R
    • Dreaming Vertebrate

      Poor kitty!

  • Pip

    A lot of times gun and gun parts “sell out” or become “temporarily unavailable” due to the sellers pulling availability. It’s a tactic used all the time to drive demand for anything that is falsely low in supply and endangered. I know of gun shop owners that did this for the AR15 when the push was on for the ammosexuals to own one “before the gubmint came to terk er gurns”. Anyone looking for one was told they were selling out like crazy and they’d need to go on a wait list. (One guy had about a hundred in the back of his shop.) Then the customers were slowly called and told they were in luck because there were only a few left but if they’d like to buy more than one at a time they’d be considered for a “special deal”.

  • DesertSun59

    The sole reason why anyone wants these is to emulate Paddock.

    Think about that.

  • Ginger Snap

    America is so totally fucked wish my words weren’t Tru but they ate. Something like this proves how fucked we are. If your first response after a mass murder is to buy more weapons that will murder more people you are not right in the head.

  • Pip

    Current ad on the side of JMG for me right now. I love that you can get certified to conceal and carry a gun online. This is a good summary of what’s wrong with this country. I can get online, take a test to carry a gun, and never have to learn a goddamned thing about actually maintaining or using said gun properly. ‘Murica!!!

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/30ffb254f3d5ad87cb85840042f3085645de6a2717bd629a2eaf357dcadd6ced.png

    • Friday

      WTF the badge of-no-authority is supposed to prove, Gods know. What are you gonna do, impersonate law enforcement with that?

      • Pip

        I was wondering the same thing! From what I can see the badge is maybe just an ad thing. Usually you just get a little card to put in your wallet. I had visions of rednecks flashing that badge around screaming “Citizens arrest!” while shooting anyone of color that got too uppity with them.

    • ultragreen

      I doubt that their concealed carry permits would be valid in some states, like California and Illinois.

      • Snarky

        Yeah, whatever they’re advertising, it’s doesn’t supersede state law.

      • Pip

        The company is based out of VA. So the CC Permit would be for that state. VA permits are recognized in most states, but there are some that are smart enough to require one from the state you plan to carry in.

  • 2patricius2

    Cause domestic terrorists need to stock up as they plan their own mass killings.

  • Richard, another Canuck

    This is yet another reason that tourism to the USA is tanking. And there are now many reasons.

  • Todd

    Ain’t called Deplorables for nothin !!!

  • Texndoc

    I heard a telephone call from a policeman this morning to a radio show who said “Yeah yeah they’ll legislate if you buy bumpers or have more than 10-20 guns you should get a police interview. Actually we’d just be interviewing ourselves for the most part. Hahahaha.”

    • Friday

      Someone did make the point that in some parts of the country it’s very easy to accumulate a ‘stockpile’ of ‘weapons’ very easily. Without it being anything like the crazy arsenals of survivalists or anything, ….just, say, a generation’s worth of .22s and a couple of shotguns, which actually had ended up in a housemate’s relative’s place mostly via someone’s late husband and had passed through here a while, (I insisted on making sure they were all in a safe condition and ended up cleaning a few up for whoever else in the family got them next.) It sure *looked* like a stockpile, in terms of quantity, but really in general about nothing you’d bother pointing at anything bigger than rabbits.

      That’s just the ‘without trying’ part. “Details” matter. It doesn’t mean cops who have to have range time for qualifications owning other things and off-duty pieces and whatever else are necessarily the same as the Bundys or whatever.

  • EdmondWherever

    I want to get one before there is a push to make them illegal

    “Everybody clearly thinks this is a dangerous weapon which should be criminalized…. I gotta get me one!”

  • Gerry Fisher

    I’m so sick of the scamming and the paranoia and the greed. It’s all tangled up together.

  • AmeriCanadian
  • JoyZeeBoy

    The law will have to outlaw the manufacture, sale AND POSSESSION of these charming little items.

  • In most industries if your product has just killed dozens of people and wounded hundreds you’d be in fear of your company going bankrupt and your stock plummeting to nothing. But for gun manufacturers, nothing helps the bottom line like a mass shooting. Paranoia and panic create a run on the product. They can’t make them fast enough to satisfy the demand from gun nuts and other conspiracy loons. It’s a sick world they live in and unfortunately we all (Americans, at least) live right next door.

  • ColdCountry

    Ban them, then make it a felony to own one. None of this grandfathering shit.

  • JCF
  • ultragreen

    Why do they even bother wasting their money on this stuff? If they ever used weapons enhanced by bump stocks on other people, they will wind up dead like Stephen Paddock. Idiots.

  • gothambear

    I had never heard of this device until this week. Wish I still didn’t know…