LONDON: Anti-Gay Doomsday Preacher Sparks Panic On Train, Passengers Pry Open Doors, Leap Onto Tracks

The Sun reports:

A doomsday preacher caused panic on a rush-hour train service yesterday by ranting about the end of the world. Commuters forced open doors and jumped off when the man began quoting from the Bible about sin.

Some worried passengers forced open doors and walked close to “live” electric tracks to reach the platform at Wimbledon station in south west London forcing operators to turn off power. Delays of more than an hour were reported as cops were called to the station to speak to the preacher who rattled travellers by talking about “Doomsday”.

One traveler on Twitter wrote: “Held up on the train to Waterloo, some nutter starts reciting verses from the Bible, causes a crush and a panic as people fear for their lives. He caused such panic that some people have forced open and jumped onto the tracks. He recited lines about homosexuality and sex outside marriage being a sin.”

From the Guardian:

Ian O’Sullivan, 42, who was in the same carriage as the passenger, said a man with a rucksack began reading what appeared to be extracts from the Old Testament, when the train stopped at a red light outside the south-west London rail station.

“He was quite well spoken and calm,” he said. “He said: ‘Ladies and gentlemen, I’d like to talk to you about something and that something is the word of the Lord, Jesus Christ. He’s here to heal your sins. The Bible tells you that homosexuality is a sin and sex before marriage is a sin. You need to repent’.”

Other passengers said the man referred to “doomsday” and the afterlife. O’Sullivan, a marketing consultant, said he did not find the man threatening, but people started pushing and shoving, with another passenger warning the man that he was scaring people.

Transport police questioned the preacher but he was not arrested after some passengers offered to vouch for him, saying he had not made any threats.

  • bkmn
    • Kelly Lape

      You can’t cure stupid.

    • Puck

      That picture makes me think of lemmings abrupt to run offa cliff! If only…

      • canoebum

        That picture make me think we need to amend the child abuse laws to protect kids like that.

    • William

      Is that Jesus Camp?

  • JoeMyGod

    When this happens in NYC, I just start chanting “HAIL SATAN” until the nutter finds another car to aggravate.

  • StillALiberal

    When someone starts preaching in public the instinctive reaction of an average English person is to start walking/running the other way. In Alabama the reaction is to elect him Senator. Proud to be English!

    • canoebum

      Well, we know the English were quite tired of hearing from them by the mid-1700s. They shipped as many as could be managed off to the colonies, just for the peace and quiet. Thanks a lot, fellas!

      • CanuckDon

        And that’s why they celebrate Thanksgiving in Britain.

      • StillALiberal

        You’re welcome ! We shipped the religious nutters to America and the petty thieves to Australia. Australia got the better deal!

        • FAEN

          I wouldn’t say that-Australia is pretty fucked up.

          • Randy Ellicott

            Compared to today’s america? not so sure..

          • FAEN

            I’m not comparing it to today’s America. Just pointing out that Australia has it’s crazies too.

          • BurningTongues

            The poll on marriage equality is stupid, but not as stupid as daily mass shootings, electing a dangerous narcissist as President, and a populace that’s proud of how unintelligent it is.

          • FAEN

            That I would agree with however Australia is quite racist, homophobic and transphobic.

            As far as pols-they’ve had PM’s that I don’t agree with but nothing comes close to Cheeto.

          • BurningTongues

            America is all of those things and worse.

        • boatboy_srq

          New South Wales got the debtors too IIRC.

        • Octoberfurst

          Britain had the right idea. Of course being an American I am kinda pissed off that the nutters are here.

      • jerry

        And most of the problems in the US today can still be traced back to the Puritans.

      • The_Wretched

        I’d like to ship a number of them off to a deserted island and have them work to live. We can also send camera drones to get footage for a reality show.

  • Bluto
    • The_Wretched

      My demons are my friends. It makes inside my head a happy place.

      • vorpal 😼

        Do what I do and charge them rent.
        The neighborhood is a bit run down, but it offers an exciting nightlife.

        • FAEN

          Good morning Sweet Vorpal! Email you later today. I couldn’t keep my eyes open last night.

          • vorpal 😼

            Good morning to you, lovely FAEN!
            No worries or rush.
            It’s always a nice happy surprise when I see your name pop up in my inbox!

            Hope you slept well and had pleasant dreams!
            (LOL better than my night… slept poorly and had horrid dreams. I’ve had so many good nights, though, lately, that I suppose I was due!)

          • FAEN

            Hey-on my way to an appointment but sent you two quick emails. I’ll send you a longer one later.

            Have a good day Sweet V 😊.

          • vorpal 😼

            Just got them a moment ago. Yay!
            I’ll email you a little later, too!
            My brain is demanding a nap first. 🙂

            Hope your appointment goes well, lovely FAEN, and talk more soon!

        • Palmer
      • Uncle Mark

        My better angels and inner demons always have a festive mixer every Friday night

    • another_steve

      I remember, with considerable fondness, carnal sin. Used to be quite good at it, actually.

      A while ago, though.

      • vorpal 😼

        Okay, that does it.

        I’m kidnapping Jared and sending him over to you with a couple boxes of Cialis, just to keep things lively.

        • another_steve

          I’ve already discussed with my husband. Like many here on JMG, he’s not interested in Jared.

          But he says he’ll watch.

    • vorpal 😼

      Un-fun fact: Graham crackers and Kellogg’s corn flakes were both made by adherents of the temperance movement and were utterly bland as can be because their inventors thought that food with flavor would “incite passions.”

      How mentally abused do you have to be as a child to grow up to think that if it feels at all good, it must be bad?

      I’m sure that Graham and Kellogg (who came after, but followed in Graham’s twisted ideology) would be delighted – if they were capable of feeling delight – at how we’ve taken their creations and added sugar and now millions of people regularly enjoy both.

      • another_steve

        Free online porn shall set the youth of the world free, vorpal.

        You can withhold from them magazines and alcohol and tobacco, but online porn you cannot withhold.

        • vorpal 😼

          Kids today have it way too easy.

          Back in my day, we had to convince surly convenience store owners that we were old enough to buy pornographic magazines so that we could ogle a penis or two!

          • bkmn

            Those furtive runs into the pharmacy or bookstore to find, buy and take home a porn mag or two…good times.

          • vorpal 😼

            LOL when I was 11 or so, I somehow got my hands on a copy of the really awful video game, Leisure Suit Larry 3.

            For those of you who are not familiar, it’s the comedy adventures of this really ugly little tacky man in a white polyester suit who goes around trying to seduce women to sleep with him and usually failing. Lots of ridiculous sexual innuendo.

            There was ONE scene in the game in a locker room where, if you positioned Larry just right, you could see his three pixel penis. That was back in the day when screen resolutions were 320 x 200 pixels and if you were lucky, you had 256 colors at your disposal.

            I cannot even venture a guess as to how many times I jerked off to that three pixel penis…

          • bkmn

            I had a roomie after college that was hooked on LSL…wasted hours of his time

          • Three pixel penis, I think I might have dated him at one point.

          • jerry

            I remember the 1st Leisure Suit Larry game…believe it was DOS. You had to search each scene for items to help pick up a woman, pay for a prostitute (and if you hadn’t previously bought a condom and remembered to put it on, your dick would rot off and you lost)…it was actually pretty funny. You can still buy all of those games on Amazon…I think Al Lowe, the creator, offered them for free for a number of years.

          • vorpal 😼

            Yup! You’re right on all accounts. The series was all DOS up until LSL5, at which point, it moved to Windows. I still remember editing autoexec.bat and config.sys files to get the extra 2k of RAM I needed to play a given game at any given time while having all the required drivers still loaded in that whopping 640k of RAM.

            They were actually fairly funny games, especially LSL5, which I’ve replayed multiple times over the years. And you can find them free on abandonware sites online and run them in the application DOSBox.

            Here’s the locker room from LSL3. You had to position him in that tiny space on the far right to get enough vertical room that you could glimpse his dick.


          • jerry

            Reminds me of when I bought a new computer around 93/94…salesman told me that the 800MB drive and 8MB RAM were “all that you’ll ever need”. Of course I laughed at him, because things were so rapidly changing then. Another DOS game I remember liking was Wolfenstein 3D–lots of shooting Nazis. Of course the main reason I’ve had computers since 1991 was for work (accounting and taxes). OMG, the number of 5 1/4 discs, later 3 1/2, that those programs came with–sometimes around 20–and the accounting programs came with a whole shelf of manuals. Not user friendly until Windows became the main O/S.

          • vorpal 😼

            LOL you knew that given the incredibly rapid state of computer evolution back then that by the time you got your computer home and everything plugged in, it was already obsolete.

            Oh yes, I played Wolfenstein 3D as well! I think given the current political situation, it is due for a comeback.

            My first computer – which was a joint birthday gift for both my dad and I since our birthdays are only a couple weeks apart – was when I was five, and was a Commodore-64. I loved that machine and still use an emulator to occasionally play games from my childhood or muck about nostalgically in C-64 BASIC programming. Good old cassette tape drive and 1541 floppy drive with 5 1/4 inch disks that you could make double-sided by punching a hole on one side of the disk to mark it as “not read protected.”

            I should be receiving my spiffy new late birthday gift MacBook Pro today. At first I had considered the possibility of settling for 4 GB of RAM instead of 8 GB until everyone screamed holy murder at me.

            And not only that, but computers are finally much more pretty these days! Those dismal beige boxes that were mostly empty space from the old days were real eyesores.

            We have come a long way.

          • jerry

            I used to go home each night during tax season with my eyes practically bleeding from the old CRT screens…I think they put off radiation, as well as being horrible pixels and difficult to read.
            In HS, we did a little basic on one of first Apples…but funniest thing was, in a business class, a huge IBM cabinet model word processor. It was rather obsolete even months after it first came out. It was built into its own desk, including monitor and printer, and had a pull-out disc drive for a floppy the size of a 78 record…which the memory could hold about 10 letters. The business department had received a federal grant to purchase it, for around $18,000.

          • DonnaLee

            *sigh* This takes me back….

          • Phillip in L.A.

            Ha! Played Wolfenstein 3d many, many times! 🙂

          • jerry

            On that 1st DOS version, I think I had all 9 or 10 floor layouts memorized.

          • Phillip in L.A.

            I am recalling a great Mac-only game during the early 90’s called “Chiral”–based on the actual meaning of that word in chemistry. Don’t know what ever became of it; it was deceptively simple (like most great games)!

            Was also thinking of going back and re-playing “Temple of Elemental Evil” on Bootcamp (Mac DOS simulator).

          • jerry

            Never owned a Mac…but that was just because–at least at first–so many of the work programs were DOS-only. There was a very simple star battle game that I really liked…don’t remember the name of it though.

          • Phillip in L.A.


            [Edit: Apparently, an independent developer is bringing “Chiral” back! Great!!!]

          • jerry

            Yeah, never saw this one before.

          • Phillip in L.A.

            The next game after “Chiral” in the YouTube list, “Maelstrom,” was a major time-sink during the late ’90s! (We had Macs at work–don’t ask me why!)

          • boatboy_srq

            If you laughed at LSLITLOTLL, you’ll love Leather Goddesses of Phobos.

            Any game that includes a contraption comprised of a bellows, 200 feet of plastic tubing snd a yak is well worth playing.

          • vorpal 😼

            I have always meant to play that.
            Text adventure, if I recall, by Infocom, no?

          • boatboy_srq

            Infocom. Horribly coded, and barely playable, but you didn’t care because you were laughing too hard.

          • Statistics Palin

            That was my first video game.

          • another_steve

            Old fairies reading here may remember Playgirl Magazine.

            Ostensibly marketed toward a female audience, but we know who its major purchasers were… don’t we boys?


          • another_steve

            I was underage when I used to buy my porn mags at Times Square in NYC. Back in the good old days when Times Square was still porn shop heaven.

            No one ever questioned me or asked for ID.

            Older guys browsing the aisles would try to pick me up, but no one ever questioned me.

          • vorpal 😼

            Haha! I didn’t DARE even try to purchase anything remotely gay as a teen. I was convinced that somehow, through a crazy chain of events, my family and peers would all find out and I would be completely ostracized.

            (People who first meet me in person never guess that I’m gay. People who know I’m gay online and then voice chat with me / meet me in person always comment on how deep and masculine my voice is. Thus, I was able to easily slip under the radar of bullying.)

            On my 18th birthday (back in 1995), I biked to the nearby porn rental shop. I was terrified and my heart was beating about 200+ BPM as I strolled near the gay section and deftly grabbed one of those velcro rental tags from a gay VHS porn, not even daring to look at what I had picked. To make it all the less “gay”, I spent a long time perusing the straight and lesbian sections of the shop and picked a movie from each, because somehow that canceled out the gayness in my mind.

            I was so anxious that I’m pretty sure I was having a panic attack when I signed the rental slip. I could barely hold the pen steady and ripped the paper trying to keep my grip firm.

            “Hotel Hombres” was actually not too bad for a first gay porn movie!

          • another_steve

            “…because somehow that canceled out the gayness in my mind.”

            Lolol. Great story, vorpal. 😉

            I was fem and very pretty as a youngster. When I went porn shopping, the “hetero” (you know, married to women) gay guys shopping the aisles were attracted to me. Some crazy psychological thing going on there, I suppose. Maybe in their minds I was somehow less “forbidden” or threatening because I reminded them of their wives or something.


            I slept through Abnormal Psychology in university, so I don’t really know.

          • vorpal 😼

            Ha! I can only imagine that you were probably oozing pheromones in every direction and confusing the hell out of those poor (lucky?) men!

            We have a female friend like that. She is very pretty and charming, but she’s not drop-dead gorgeous or classically beautiful. No straight guy seems to be able to walk past her without basically having a seizure, though.

            Even our former dog would go NUTS when she was in the vicinity, yelping and crying and pulling on the leash to be able to run to her. It got to the point that we couldn’t even walk past her house without him having a conniption fit.

            Cap those pheromones, mister, before someone loses an eye!

          • another_steve

            Very true what you say there, vorpal. Very true. There are some people who ooze sensuality. It’s palpable, when you’re in their presence. And just as you say, they’re not necessarily classically beautiful.

            I’m guessing it’s a rare, inherited ancient gene-thing – intended by nature to give certain folks a mating advantage.

          • vorpal 😼

            Can you bottle some up and send it my way?
            The only thing I’m oozing is geeky dorkiness.

          • another_steve

            Lol. I bet you’re oozing cat pheromones, my friend. As I am.

            Every time they rub against out legs, they’re imparting some of it to us.

          • vorpal 😼

            You should see Duncan when I come back from the pool (as I just did – was going to use my rowing machine but decided to go to the pool instead). Chlorine is apparently like catnip to some cats and triggers a hormonal response in them.

            He goes BESERK and follows me from room to room, trying to climb me, chewing on my feet, and going generally nuts.

            I wish I had that effect on human men as well!

          • another_steve

            Interesting about chlorine. I didn’t know that.

            Vorpal, do your boys go crazy in piles of dirty socks and the like? My girl does.

            My man is butch and is always exercising and shit. He produces a lot of perspiration-laden clothing. Whenever he leaves a pile of it on the floor, girl goes crazy. She paws it and lies on top of it. Actually becomes possessive of it.

            Must be something in the odor that triggers that response.

          • vorpal 😼

            Not socks, but Felix will go NUTS for any shirts that I wear during non-swimming cardio exercise, which is usually jogging or StepMania. See attached video for what StepMania is. That’s me, but two years ago and about 20 lbs heavier than I am now:

            Anyways, like your man, I perspire a LOT when I do cardio, and throw my shirt on the floor before jumping in the shower. I will come out to find Felix ROLLING and ROLLING in it, looking completely like a smitten kitten.

            It’s simultaneously very flattering and utterly disgusting. I think since I have always clearly been his favourite since he was a tiny little kitten, he relishes my man smells and the stronger they are, the more memories and feelings of comfort they probably trigger.

            Hubby is NOT quite so impressed when I take my sweaty, stinky shirt, sneak up behind him, and drape it over his face.

          • another_steve

            Are you familiar with this thing called “Zumba”? I wasn’t until recently – when I happened upon an outdoor group of people doing it. Then I googled and learned that there’s something like 15 million people worldwide who take weekly classes in it.

            Who knew.


          • vorpal 😼

            I’ve heard of it, but I’ve never actually seen it done before.

            Good to see more fun ways to lose weight and keep fit: so many of the traditional exercise classes like aerobics and want not just were not enjoyable.

            Ha! I can stomp around on a mat to arrows on a screen to a song, but if you actually somehow manage to get me to do anything resembling dancing, somebody is going to lose an eye or break a bone!

          • Phillip in L.A.

            eh–he loves it! & u know it…. ;-}

          • vorpal 😼

            LOL please tell HIM that! He seems to have convinced himself otherwise!

            It is so cute to watch Felix – after I work out – snuggle up in my armpit and purr and purr and roll and roll with no self respect or dignity!

          • Phillip in L.A.

            Well, certain kinds of man-stink (and up to a point!) can be . . . interesting! But my ex (the friend of tina) began to have this fear or phobia or hallucination, that the less he bathed, the better he smelled. (This did not last long, before he got the boot, from me.) There were times when his stench was still perceptible, even after he had left the building. He lost his professional job; one co-worker (before he was sacked) told him that instead of using “deodorant,” it smelled like he was using “odorant”!!!

            Maybe there’s a little bit of Felix in all us men! :-}

          • Phillip in L.A.

            I’ll be happy to send u whatever u need!

          • Phillip in L.A.

            they knew you were a cock-sucker–simple as that!

          • Chris Baker

            Ha. Speaking of trying to elude suspicion, I was at the airport (the hub airport I had a layover in), and bought a Playgirl — AND a Penthouse, so no one would ‘suspect”. I was on my way back to work from my holiday at my parent’s house. I worked at a fundamentalist Baptist college (think Bob Jones University-type). And, on the plane, someone I knew was also traveling back and sat next to me!

          • vorpal 😼

            Penthouse actually was my first magazine that wasn’t scared to show pictures of guys’ penises in their photo shoots, IIRC (or maybe I’m thinking of Hustler, but I feel like it was Penthouse).

            I just about died from the excitement when my friend and I managed to get our hands on one when I was 13.

            LOL they actually had a really good article about aspartame possibly being neurotoxic, and when I mentioned that hypothesis to my dad, he really wanted to read the article. I had to admit where I had read it and make him SWEAR that he would not take the magazine away from me if I let him, and he was true to his word.

            I’ve never actually seen the inside of a playgirl magazine. Are there full-naked frontal shots of guys? Seems like the subscriptions would probably be dominated by gay men if that was the case. Most of the women I know are not visually aroused by penis pics and just wish dudes would stop sending them unsolicited ones, whereas my cell phone is so full of penis pics from friends and guys I’ve chatted with that I have to warn people to NEVER scroll left or right in my photo app and sometimes it takes me a minute or two to figure out whose penis I’m looking at.

          • Yes Playgirl was chock full of dicks!
            One famous pic of an actor who’s name I cannot recall (I think he was in Mission Impossible tv version) in which he was semi-erect. Caused quite a stir back then

          • Phillip in L.A.

            Peter Lupus

          • Phillip in L.A.

            Probably Hustler; Penthouse had occasional penis pictures (sometimes in Film Reviews, a-hem! and similar non-feature positions), but quite few and far-between.

            I have three of four years complete of Playgirl, from when I was 12, on…. Yes, there are full-frontal nude shots of guys, sometimes with partial- or half-erections, but never fully erect (I guess that would be “obscene”).

            As I was looking for some pictures last night on an old hard-drive, I marvelled at how few NON-XXX-rated pix were on there!

          • vorpal 😼

            You’re probably right. It was so long ago now that I can’t remember well, but I do recall most of the photo shots in the magazine did have a guy in an open dress shirt waving a very nice penis around.

            There were also a very tiny number of gay ads in the ads section which made my 13 year old self gush with giddiness.

            Here’s a weird fact about me: my porn collection now is extremely small, consisting of just a couple dozen videos. I’m extremely picky when it comes to porn and the littlest thing can ruin porn for me, so if I ever find a video that I actually like, I download it and save it because that is such a rare thing. (I often prefer to just use my imagination, although it varies over time, usually in phases.)

            I used to have a large pics collection, but now only have a tiny number, and one of my weird big turn offs in porn pictures are erections. I prefer pics with flaccid penises, and very much like uncut (although that’s by no means a hard requirement – ha). I think erect penises are fun and clearly necessary for good porn videos and sexual encounters, but when just appreciating the male aesthetic, I think some guy just standing there naked sporting an erection in a photo does look rather awkward to me.

            Sounds like you are in the same boat as me! I have a couple old backup hard drives that I should go through, and I’m pretty sure there is a massive amount of XXX pics on them! I’m not even sure they still work, given that they’re quite old, but I have already copied over everything of importance on them to my laptops and to newer backup SSD drives.

            Will email you a bit later… going to go use my rowing machine and play the demo that was just released for the video game I have been desperately waiting for (Etrian Odyssey V, the final game in my favourite series) for well over a year, which is finally coming out later this month!

          • Phillip in L.A.

            You go, gurl! Just take care not to overdo with the rowing machine–they can be hard on backs.

            That is quite amusing! My porn pix overwhelmingly consist of pictures of guys with erections (maybe 80%-20%). I know what you are saying about the vids–there are just a few I really like, and I almost always save those, when I run across them (unless they are tapes or DVDs I have already bought)

          • Phillip in L.A.

            I used to have porn sent to my home in the mail (while I was in my teens, and still living with ‘rents). One time, one of the envelopes “got torn,” and my Mom came up with this golden line, “You should tell whoever is sending you magazines with naked men in them to stop!”

            I did not reply, but took the mail from her, went into my bedroom, and closed and locked the door. Whatever I did after that in there, I will leave to your lurid (I’m sure) imaginations.

            Hint: This was what was inside the torn envelope (yes, I still do have it!)


          • Phillip in L.A.

            Times Square is a pretty good example of what I was talking about, another_steve! But where I was, the neighbourhoods were much scarier than Times Square (at least to me)

          • I was lucky, I had dial-up. So it just took me twenty minutes of waiting to see a jpeg.

          • vorpal 😼

            LOL I remember those tiny interlaced JPGs that were 8 – 12 KB of porny goodness that slowly loaded row by row.

            And then someone would invariably pick up the phone when you were around 80% of the way downloaded.

          • Phillip in L.A.

            You bought it in convenience stores! You kids sure had it easy in your day…. 😉

            In my day, we had to go to a scary and seedy neighbourhood to buy porn, in an “Adult Book Store” with a stick floor and a guy in one of the booths (with the door not quite closed) proffering a $20 bill (don’t ask me for what–I never asked).

            After you had successfully bought it–and it was not cheap!–you would then have to retrace your steps home, carrying the “plain brown wrapper” in a nonchalant but secure way.

          • DonnaLee

            LOL….great picture!

          • prixator

            I was far too ashamed to face the store clerk to buy them so the only things I ever shoplifted were Playgirl magazines (and Viva, too, for the few issues they were around).

            And after looking through each magazine, I would cut out the pictures that interested me and burn the rest of it.

            The memories. Ugh.

          • vorpal 😼

            LOL along similar lines, when I was a teenage kitten, I would go weekly to the local grocery store to buy up all the new Tiger Beat, Teen Beat, etc. magazines, go home, cut out all the pictures of Mark-Paul Gosselaar, and then dispose of the magazine. I must have had 500 pics of him in a secret folder.

            Because I was terrified that the Teen Beats would make the cashier that I had never met before somehow think I was gay and reveal my secret to the whole world despite not knowing my name or anything about me, I would also buy an Archie comic, because then I could somehow justify, if questioned, that the Teen Beats were for my imaginary sister and the Archie comic was for me.

            The end result:
            Two and a half decades later, I still love Archie comics and buy them on occasion (yay Kevin Keller). I also still think that Mark-Paul Gosselaar is hot as all hell, but I don’t collect pics of him anymore or fall asleep at night thinking about him and sighing with my face buried in my pillow.

          • prixator

            That’s funny. Thinking about this, and reading this thread, has triggered other memories. In another comment someone says they bought Playgirl and Penthouse at the same time; I did similar except I also bought a couple of other mnags, as well (I think something like GQ and Details or Esquire).

            One other silly thing I did is buy a years subscription to Playgirl for my aunt (anonymously, of course) because, at the time, I was in grade 13 and went to her house for lunch while she was at work. There I could look through them with no one around. I wonder if she ever suspected it was me who bought the subscription (probably, but she’s dead now so I’ll never know).

            Now, everything is just a couple of clicks away. Takes the suspense (and tension) out of it.

          • vorpal 😼

            Wait… grade 13?
            Are you from Ontario as well?

            I think sex often involves a “naughtiness factor” to it. The fact that porn is now so readily available without stress, masturbation is no longer seen as taboo (nobody would admit to doing it when I was younger, and now nobody admits to not doing it), and sex is much less of an issue, people need to find new ways to feel naughty.

            LOL @ your aunt story! My mom used to take me and my three best friends to rent movies on weekends when we were 17 or so. The video rental place we liked had a small back room with porn. One of us would distract her while the rest of us went into that room and found a porn with a very innocent sounding title, and then grab the velcro rental tag and give it to her.

            She would rent it for us, completely clueless, while we stood behind her. I always wondered what the cashier thought with a 50-something woman renting porn with four teenage boys in tow.

            I told her years later and after she gave me a couple MUCH deserved smacks, she laughed.

          • prixator

            Yes, I’m Toronto born and raised. Never lived elsewhere and never want to (I think you told us that you have lived in Toronto but don’t care much for it. It’s not for everyone).

            My parents were pretty poor parents (I regarded the aunt I mentioned more like a mother) but they did two things for which I am eternally grateful: they settled in Toronto (they were WWII refugees) and they didn’t indoctrinate me in any religion. So, I guess they weren’t that bad.

          • vorpal 😼

            In my experience, the majority of people that I know that were born in Toronto love it, and the majority of people that were not born in Toronto don’t mind / enjoy visiting but don’t like living there.

            Then again, I think cities that big just overwhelm me in general, and it’s not just Toronto. There is actually a lot to love about Toronto, such as some very good food and a lot of cultural diversity. (The restaurant Matahari Grill on Baldwin St is probably one of my favourite… their beef rendang is to DIE for).

            Glad that you are happy there, and it’s always refreshing to hear about parents that don’t religiously indoctrinate their kids!

            Hope you are having a great weekend, prixator!

          • prixator

            Funny thing, when I came out (in early 1981 – great timing for a gay man) and started meeting people at bars, I couldn’t believe how many were born outside of Toronto. I’d say only about 10% of the guys I met were native Torontonians. Most were from elsewhere in Ontario and the Maritimes. I settled down with a native though (his father and my aunt worked together for a while years before I met him).

            Happy Thanksgiving, vorpal!

          • vorpal 😼

            I’m a bad Canadian!
            I completely forgot it was Canadian Thanksgiving this weekend!

            Being down here in Chile, surrounded by Chileans and expats from all over the world (with very few Canadians), it’s easy to forget as my fellow Americans (dual citizenship for me) outnumber, so we end up celebrating US Thanksgiving instead!

            Your pic made me giggle.
            Happy Thanksgiving, prixator! Hope you have a nice one!

      • TexasBoy

        I’m fairly sure they considered sugar a poison to the body and soul. Remember the Road to Wellville is based upon the Kellogg Sanitarium.

      • boatboy_srq

        The converse seems more experimentally true. Have you sampled Midwestern “cuisine”? Goes well with wingnutsery or so I’m told.

        • vorpal 😼

          I’m pretty sure that I haven’t, and don’t even have the slightest clue what constitutes Midwestern “cuisine” :D.

      • Brian Burleson

        Part of their therapy breakfast were they not? Being born and raised in Michigan that was part of the visit to Battle Creek where Kelloggs was started and manufactured. It all started as part of the Kellogg Sanatorium. Also something to do with anti “self pleasure”. IIRC.

    • FAEN

      Nailed it.

    • TexasBoy
      • Bluto

        It this here website thingie isn’t turning people gay then I don’t know what will.

        • Phillip in L.A.

          I do…. 😉

      • Mikey

        that whole “butch straight boy” opening section always killed me… more than half those dancers are flaming homos! ROFLMAO.
        Love this musical.

  • pj

    in chicago train preachers are ignored. its part of the entertainment

    • AmeriCanadian

      I’ve ridden the “L” . I’d be surprised if the train preachers weren’t shot.

      • pj

        the only people who die on the train in chicago arent shot. they get drunk and piss on the third rail.

  • Leo

    OT. Anyone in Rep. Coleman’s district (D-NJ)? Her recent Trump obliteration’s lit

    • The_Wretched

      she nails it.

    • Bryan

      Works for me.

  • The_Wretched

    “after some passengers offered to vouch for him” <–grr. Were the vouchers honest or christian?

    • vorpal 😼

      LOL definitely mutually exclusive terms!

    • Jefe5084

      They were vouchers for discounts on votive candles and rosaries from the bible Store.

  • Jmdintpa

    beat the fuck out of em with said bible… then claim you were afraid for your life.

    • Bluto

      “He was reaching for his pocket. I feared for my life.”

      Works for cops.

      • Talisman

        But only when he has brown skin.

        • Statistics Palin

          Carry tanning spray.

  • MonochromeMouse

    They should have arrested the fucker for incitement to riot. He could have gotten people killed.

  • vorpal 😼

    …maybe they were just trying to escape from having to listen to him?
    There are only so many eye rolls you can manage in response to these idiots before you reach the “fuck it” threshold.

    • FAEN

      Who wants to hear that crap anywhere much less on a moving train. Really grates on my nerves. Too bad we can’t eject the religious dumb ass instead of having to witness his/her BS.

      • vorpal 😼

        They love things like moving trains because they have a captive audience.

        Well, up until this incident.

        Fortunately, in Canada, this is exceedingly rare to see. We had two groups of religious crazies that hung out on different blocks back in Ottawa, and everybody would just roll their eyes and smile at each other as they passed them by. It was like the ridiculous joke that brought a bit more unity to the city.

    • Phillip in L.A.

      Someone could have told him politely to please shut the fuck up.

  • SoCalVet

    they should have taken him down and held him until authorities arrived if they thought he was a threat. Let the police determine if he is safe.

  • Tawreos

    I am not sure why this is news, this seems like a perfectly reasonable response to me.

    • Halou

      Yes and no. Leaping out onto the tracks where they could get electrocuted… The preacher should be prosecuted.

      • vorpal 😼

        Risky, but may still be the less painful of the two alternatives.
        The bible IS really, really, really long, boring, and stupid after all.

  • TexasBoy

    In the UK they are nutters in the US they are patriots and politicians.

    • Lakeview Bob

      Love that!

    • nocadrummer

      They used to be called “Jesus Freaks”, now we call them “Republicans”.

  • Adam Stevens

    religion is a social disease that needs top be purged from our planet.

    or we will all die.

    • thatotherjean

      Relax. In the end, we will all die anyway.

      • TuuxKabin

        ya’ know.

  • I’ve never considered leaving the moving train as an option to get away from these idiots. I guess I’m not sensitive enough to live in London

    • barrixines

      I move away from people muttering and reading their Bible and Qu’rans here on the metro in BCN all the time. I am just not used to that overt religiosity in public so my assumption (and I am probably correct) is that they are a bit of a nutcase. Not necessarily a terrorist.

    • Hue-Man

      You might change your mind if you thought he was wearing an explosive belt.

  • Skokieguy [Larry]

    Another O/T: Ivanka and Donald Trump Jr. Were Close to Being Charged With Felony Fraud – New York prosecutors were preparing a case. Then the D.A. overruled his staff after a visit from a top donor: Trump attorney Marc Kasowitz.

    [Note that this was in 2012 before Trump decided to run]

  • Lakeview Bob

    This is a perfect example of why free speech isn’t always allowed.

  • BostonBud

    hmm…a day after an attack in Las Vegas and some guy gets the attention of everyone on the train and starts spouting bible verses and says “You must repent for your sins”. Some people could very well take that as “What’s this person going to do to us?”

    • Ernest Endevor

      I see. Hadn’t thought of that. Couldn’t think why people were panicking.

  • Halou

    Jesus-u Akbar!

  • Dreaming Vertebrate

    In today’s crazy world, waving a bible around in a crowded subway is no different than shouting fire in a crowded movie theater. Arrest the bible-beating terrorist!!

    • Halou

      I’m sure he was thinking that he would have a captive audience if the train hadn’t stopped at a red light section of the track, but as it happens peoples lives were put at risk just so he could get some attention.

  • John Ruff

    Doesn’t this happen (ranters) on NY subways all the time? I thought Londoners were tough.

    • Dreaming Vertebrate

      He may have been the mother of all ranters.

      • John Ruff


    • Ken M

      NY hasn’t been exposed to the terrorist acts that London has.

    • Gigi

      Backpacks + crazy screaming nutters = potential disaster. It’s one thing to encounter this street side. You have the choice go simply ignore it and walk away. London trains are deep in the underbelly of the city. And when the train is in motion, you’re trapped.

      • John Ruff

        Same here in D.C. but we don’t panic and jump off a train deep down in a tunnel. I call nanny state.

    • barrixines

      It’s more to do with the fact, as other people have pointed out here, a religious nutter on the streets in mainland Britain (I’m leaving out Norn Ireland) is still a rarity.

  • Ernest Endevor

    Not so surprising. After all, Wimbledon is the Sodom of South London.

    • barrixines
      • Ernest Endevor

        Disgusting. Can’t walk down High Street without some pervert trying to unzip your fly! (with any luck) And don’t get me started on Goat Night!

      • MaryJOGrady

        I’m astounded! I was living in Wimbledon then and never heard of this.

        • barrixines

          Yeah, you all say that now…

          • Phillip in L.A.

            I think MaryJ might know more than she is letting on….

          • MaryJOGrady

            In my defense, I had no children and never went to the opera.

          • barrixines

            Just between us, I actually know way more about the suburban swinging scene in the UK than I want to. It comes at me like flashbacks to Nam.

  • Long Tom

    It seems like it would have been more efficient to toss the deity-crazy bastard off the train, instead.

  • Gigi

    If I encounter “God hates gays” preachers I like play a little: Who knows more about the bible, you or me? [Hint: I know more.] They always end up getting frustrated and pack it in. One time I got a round of applause from those who’d stopped to watch when I successfully shut one of these nutters down.

    • Statistics Palin

      You’re my hero!

  • Uncle Mark

    Is it really free speech when someone is preaching to a captive audience on a train? This should be considered abuse or harassment, since people aren’t free to escape (barring good headphones or turning off hearing aids). In this instance, if someone “manually” shut up the preacher, couldn’t we consider that free speech too, since everyone was basically being held hostage?

    • Phillip in L.A.

      How about just telling the nutter to stfu?

  • Nic Peterson

    Please mind the gap?

    • TuuxKabin

      Between the ears?

  • shellback

    If we wanted to listen to a lunatic, we’d go to church. If we wanted to read lunacy, we’d get our own buybull.

  • Herald

    Um… what? Next time just turn up your earbuds and ignore the crazy person. Does London seriously not have religious nutters? In LA this is a near daily occurrence.

    • barrixines

      No it seriously doesn’t in the main. There’s never been that fire and brimstone tradition. Half the priests in the Church of England are atheists.

      • The_Wretched

        Some number of the pastors in the US are atheists too. They keep quite about it though.

        • barrixines

          I was over egging the pudding somewhat but definitely there’s plenty of agnostic/atheist vicars who stay in the Church because they are really committed to helping their communities. Y’know like Christians are meant to do.

        • Talisman

          Because money.

          • The_Wretched

            And they don’t have the skills needed to do anything else.

      • Hue-Man

        Defrocked United Church of Canada minister from last year.

        Gretta Vosper, the popular and controversial United Church of Canada minister who calls herself an atheist, should no longer be a minister, a review committee has recommended.

        “In our opinion, she is not suitable to continue in ordained ministry because she does not believe in God, Jesus Christ or the Holy Spirit,” the church’s Toronto Conference Review Committee concluded in a 39-page report released Wednesday.

      • MaryJOGrady

        Oh, remember the Exclusive Brethren. There are not many of them, but they are full of promises of fire and brimstone for everyone but some of themselves. (Stella Gibbons also immortalized the Quivering Brethren in her hilarious *Cold Comfort Farm*. They were led by a relative of the heroine; his descriptions of the torments to come were quite vivid, hence the quivering.)

    • Ken M

      9/15/2017 Bomb in Parsons Green underground station explodes. Been 3 weeks after all. I guess they’re just supposed to get over it.

    • Câl

      We generally do ignore them on the street (where it is common but not as much as in the USA) but in the confines of buses or the underground (where other religious nutters have exploded bombs in the recent past), you can’t just step away quietly. We are very much an atheist nation now except for a fringe and with our education system being starved of cash a lot of people seriously would not know Christian lunacy from the Muslim kind and would be scared.

  • matrem
    • Reality.Bites

      Fuck, I think she’s Trump’s drag alter-ego she’s so inarticulate! Have they ever been spotted together?

    • Robincho

      Elaine Lancaster? Her act is undoubtedly as boring as her name…

  • madknits

    Shit, that’s just another day on the Red Line on Boston’s MBTA.

  • Talisman

    These “street preachers” should be in a psychiatric ward.

  • GeneInSJ

    Given the recent terrorist activity in London, I can understand that some people would freak out.

  • anne marie in philly

    DUCT TAPE THAT MUTHAFUCKA’S MOUTH! or cut his tongue out!

  • JWC

    Are we to read this as religious persecution or another crackpot scaring the living shit out of everyone

  • MBear

    Not all terrorists use guns and bombs

  • Lumpy Gaga

    Isn’t “rucksack” British for “backpack”?

    A nut starts preaching about doomsday while carrying a backpack on a train? Given recent events, I might GTFO myself.

  • JT

    Religion as terrorism.

    • MBear


  • Nowhereman

    My gut instinct would be to throw the buybull-spewer off the train. What the hell.

  • barrixines

    Maybe this will help those confused why Londoners might have done this.

    Below is a photo of Stanley Green a gently loopy religious fellow who carried his sign day in day out along Oxford Street between the late sixties and early nineties, campaigning for less desire. From Wiki – “When he died at the age of 78, the Daily Telegraph, Guardian and Times published his obituary, and the Museum of London added his pamphlets and placards to their collection. In 2006 his biography was included in the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography.”

    The reason he is so well known with a Wiki entry is that he was such a rarity in the UK. Public displays of religious fervour were simply not a thing one did. And though much has changed, that sentiment still lingers.

    • TuuxKabin

      Speakers’ Corner is strictly political and social?

      • barrixines

        No but that’s sort of a place sanctioned for shouty nutcases. Not that I really know – can’t say I have been there in about thirty years. The only people we allow to be loud and obnoxious on British streets are drunks. Millions of ’em. Public displays of alcohol-induced boorishness are a time honoured tradition. Piety no.

      • MaryJOGrady

        Religious kooks do orate at Speakers’ Corner. I have framed a photo I took of one in debate with a smartly-dressed gentleman with a bottle of good sherry he frequently resorted to in his Marks and Spencer carrier bag.

        • TuuxKabin

          I wonder if anyone will ever ‘see it all.’ But if it wasn’t a Harrod’s bag, well, come on. Low public profile.

          Thanks for that. Got a draft drafted for you. My correspondence has gone to hell.

          You’ve returned from . . . ?


          • MaryJOGrady

            Mexico City, which was blissful. Next week I’m off to Barcelona and Brussels to visit two of my favorite people in the world.

          • Phillip in L.A.

            Aren’t WE lucky?!? 😎 💋 I’m so envious….

          • MaryJOGrady

            It’s a victory lap following a hellish year. (Very bad surprise break-up of long-term relationship.)

          • Phillip in L.A.

            Sorry to hear that, but it sounds like you have matters well in hand!

  • TuuxKabin

    They’d not last on NYC’s/MTA long. What happened to the stiff upper lip.

    • MaryJOGrady

      As a former Londoner, I must say this sort of display is almost unheard-of on public transportation there. The Parsons Green tube train explosion/attack is pretty fresh in people’s minds, too. I am not surprised at this reaction. I’m glad no one was hurt.

      • TuuxKabin

        ‘Hardened’ NYC/MTA rider speaking. I’m of the mind when I board, ‘what fresh hell will be thrown at us this time.’ As a former Londoner as well, I remember the Wax Museum blast, rattled my windows. Being evacuated and re-routed from the Metro and streets, even here from Ellis Island when dad & stepmom were visiting because of a threat they should not have mentioned. I think every attack is fresh in peoples’ minds, and yes, thankfully no one was injured. Waiting for husband to ‘surface’ twice, ’93 WTC bombing and 9/11 – he worked in the north tower – nothing appears to be unheard of anymore. Not to me.

  • Jay Silversmith

    THIS is why we need laws to force churches to stay within the confines of their properties….not on tv, not on the radio, not on public transportation, where it is akin to yelling FIRE in a crowded theatre. Religion is a CHOICE. Make like-minded nutters come to your church to be further brainwashed. Instead, they are let loose to harass the whole phuckin planet.

  • Jean-Marc in Canada

    My reaction would have probably been more direct given my background and training…and that kind of scares me to think about it. A religious nut, quoting death to gays scripture and musing about doomsday while on a packed subway with a backpack on…yeah, my first instincts would not have been to run, but something else.

    What a time to be alive. smh

  • Phillip in L.A.

    Brits are too polite to tell this ‘man’ to shut the fuck up (to his face); instead, they would rather electrocute themselves on the third rail trying to flee! Very sad and sorry, indeed.

    • MaryJOGrady

      I don’t blame them for being that jittery in light of the recent Parsons Green tube explosion.

      • Phillip in L.A.

        Jittery is one thing; endangering one’s one life (and the life of others) for no apparent reason (yes, I know the actual ‘reason,’ which you alluded to) is unnecessary in the extreme

  • Pip

    That’s my reaction any time someone tries to tell me about the “Good Words of Jesus.” I’d rather risk my life getting away than stay and hear another word.

  • justmeeeee

    Fucking pussy Brits. New Yorkers wouldn’t even give the dude a glance.

  • Clive Johnson

    I don’t understand the reason for panic. I can understand criticism, exasperation, mockery, but panic?

  • supasugacrisp

    After they pried the doors open, they should have thrown him out!!

  • andrew

    What the f*ck were they scared of?

  • JCF
  • TheManicMechanic

    They should’ve thrown the “preacher” onto the tracks.

  • Ore Carmi

    What a bizarre story!

  • SDG

    Wow, so the English ARE as stupid as the ‘muricans. Love it.