Gay Man Named Among Las Vegas Victims

The Las Vegas Review-Journal reports:

A city of Las Vegas employee was among those shot and killed at the Route 91 Harvest country music festival Sunday night. Cameron Robinson, 28, was attending the festival with his boyfriend when he was shot in the neck, his sister Meghan Ervin said.

Robinson lived in the area of St. George, Utah, but drove to Las Vegas for work, Ervin said. He worked as a legal records specialist for the city, according to TransparentNevada.com. Robinson went to Basic High School and held degrees from Nevada State College and Western International University, Ervin said.

Robinson’s boyfriend, Bobby Eardley, was wounded but is expected to survive.

From the GoFundMe drive for Robinson’s emergency care and funeral:

Today we lost an amazing friend, son, brother, uncle, cousin, coworker and boyfriend to the senseless, horrible tragedy of the Las Vegas shooting. He was full of life and love and so much passion. He loved his family, friends and everyone he came in contact with. He loved to cook, entertain, run marathons, travel, go camping, boating, and the outdoors in general and above all surround himself with those he loved and others. He is an amazing example to all and brought so much light to those he came in contact with. He accomplished so much in such a short time and touched the lives of so many. Between his love to cook and amazing dance moves there was always good times. He was such a caring, giving and loving man. Cameron, you will be greatly missed. We love you so much!

  • matrem

    Rest In Power

  • netxtown

    gawddammit

  • PickyPecker

    (sigh)

  • JWC

    A mass shooting is alway made more poigniant when a face is identified as a victim So Sad

    • Lumpy Gaga

      Watched two (seriously) injured guys interviewed on MSNBC last night telling their stories.

      I lost it. And they lived.

  • Richard, another Canuck

    Now I am crying again.

  • Bluto

    The ability to shoot 600 people is a right but health care for the victims isn’t.
    I fucking hate what my country has become.

    • Christopher

      The people of this country love their guns more than their fellow human beings.

      If this is what it means to be the “best country in the world” then I’ll take the consolation prize. TYVM.

      • Talisman

        Aaron Sorkin needs to update this.

        https://youtu.be/RyzDRc34l2g

        • Christopher

          I thought about posting this clip with my comment.

          Thank you!

        • David Walker

          It really is among the top moments of television and truth-telling. I tried to watch two of the “rebuttals.” Yeah. They sure told me by proving just how dead-on this is. The saddest thing, of course, is that nothing has changed for the better.

        • holy fuck. what movie is that?!

          • Talisman

            It’s the first scene in the HBO series “The Newsroom”. Jeff Daniels won a Primetime Emmy for best actor for the role. The series as a whole is not all that great.

    • Steve Smith

      I just read this plea for help with emergency care costs. I just can’t imagine the sheer heartlessness of a society which bills the families of victims of gun- crazed murdered for their care after they die. Horrified is how I feel, really horrified.

      • Hank

        Considering, what this country does concerning health care, why should this be a big surprise???

      • Prost Seattle

        I’m sure the NRA members are lining up to donate cash to the victims.

        • ohbear1957

          Faux News and Republican members of congress, too.

    • stealing and using.

    • stanhope

      Doll your country has always been “that”…trump just gives cover to bring it to the surface…get WOKE!

  • another_steve

    Condolences to his loved ones. May he rest in peace.

    Seize the day, beloved JMG friends.

    But of that day or the hour, no one knows…

  • barrixines

    And his family get the medical bills along with his corpse? I don’t know what to say. How do you people live with this?

    • Bluto

      You must think this country is insane, & you’re correct.

      • barrixines

        Basically American freedom means you have no right not to be shot and no right if a member of your family is shot not to be financially ruined by it.

        • Bluto

          The Englishman gets it while many millions of muricans don’t.

    • JoeMyGod

      Medical bills are typically the responsibility of the deceased’s spouse, adult children, or parents, depending on which is the closest legal heir to the estate.

      • Tomcat

        But congress made sure real quick they cannot sue the NRA planting ideas in peoples heads.

      • Anastasia Beaverhousen

        That actually depends. First they will take whatever there is in the estate to cover bills. After that, no one has to pay anything. The hospital will generally write-off the bill, but you and I will pay for it in higher medical costs. Remember the $99.00 aspirin?

      • ultragreen

        In most states, medical bills of the decedent will be the responsibility of the spouse (if legally married) or the estate of the decedent, which will reduce the size of the inheritance of any heirs. Children and other relatives are not responsible for the medical bills of their deceased parents should the decedent’s estate be insufficient to pay any outstanding medical bills. Some creditors may falsely claim to children and other relatives that they are legally responsible for such medical bills, but such creditors are lying.

        • Prost Seattle

          My sister died last year with $667,000 in medical bills. She was on SS disability. The hospitals/doctor offices all called me asking if payment were possible. I told them I wouldn’t know until I went to the Carribbean to look at her offshore accounts. One office actually called me a week later to find out what I was able to come up with.

          Of course, she was on Medicare.

          I shuffled s notepad on my desk and told the clerk, it looks like you’re going to have to take an oil well, will that be okay? She said she needed to check with her supervisor.

          They never called again.

    • PickyPecker

      Techically, the deceased only ‘pay’ for services such as ER/Hospitals, etc. through their estate (if there is one). Families are not financially obliged to make payment, unless the deceased was legally married or underage.

      • PickyPecker

        Addition: There are indeed many families who are NOT obligated to pay for medical services who choose to do so as they feel the services rendered should be compensated.

        • netxtown

          Unless a parent is presented with a consent form – by the hospital to sign – to save their child’s life.

    • Jean-Marc in Canada

      As someone else who’s watching from the outside, it’s a question that we also pose, all too often.

    • worstcultever

      I’m honestly getting to a point where I’d rather check out. I wish there was a way I could trade my own life for vital young people like this who still had joie de vivre and so much still to give.

    • Ron Robertson

      I’d say there’s a good case to be made that the killer’s estate has to pay all those hospital bills.

    • Do Something Nice

      OT: What is the king saying? I can’t get any direct video right now.

  • Todd20036

    He was supposed to grow old.

    • JWC

      they ALL were

  • Todd20036

    And all Trump could come up with was “warmest condolences”.
    I am so fucking embarrassed to be an American these days.

    • another_steve

      This too shall pass, Todd.

      For a while now, we’ve been living through a sad and terrible period in American history. There have been others, but this period is particularly terrible.

      But this too shall pass, my friend.

      • Tomcat

        Not in our lifetimes, and probably not in any of our families lifetimes.

      • netxtown

        I hear ya. It’ just I don’t know if I have the steam in me to recover. The pieces of progress made during the last presidency are shattered and scattered…and we so badly need those young voices and their strong arms to lead a recovery when the time comes. Until then, every loss feeds into the psychy of defeat.

        • another_steve

          I have confidence in the Way of Things – what Philosophical Daoists call “the Dao.” The way is sometimes easy, sometimes hard. Sometimes joyful, sometimes sad. But it’s a way of continuance.

          If you cut the stem of a thriving plant, odds are new growth will come from that wound. If you suffer a terrible wound in your life – physical or emotional – new growth often comes.

          New growth that replaces the wound.

          • Christopher

            “If you suffer a terrible wound in your life – physical or emotional – new growth often comes.”

            Can I be a Cyborg instead? I wanna be a Cyborg.

            Two robotic legs. (For dancing.) At least one robotic arm with a laser. (For slicing bread of course!) And a robotic eye. (For seeing through the locker room walls.)

            Ooh, and a built in rocket pack because driving sucks!

          • Moebym of the Returners

            And drink however much I want.

        • JAKvirginia

          Sadly, this all had to happen.

          Some people learn from experience — a small problem can be extrapolated to a more severe level and protections/preventions enacted in anticipation of “the big one”.

          Then there are others whose feet can be set on fire, and not until the skin peals from their bones will they admit there’s a problem. And maybe not even then.

          Sad.

      • JCF

        Thank you, a_s.

    • Tomcat

      It is now past embarrassed, it has come to terrified to be an American these days.

    • Annerdr

      I was frankly relieved it wasn’t some variation of “they had it coming.”

    • AmeriCanadian

      These days? I became embarrassed on November 9, 2016.

    • 2guysnamedjoe

      “Warmest condolences”.
      That’s what you send someone whose parakeet died.

  • Lumpy Gaga

    GoFundMes to cover ER bills.

    Fuck this country.

    • Todd20036

      But heaven forbid if we have reasonable gun control that might have stopped someone from buying high ordinance rifles by the dozen

      • Mark
      • JWC

        The NRA has so bastardized and contorted the second ammendment to suit their own meanings. Given that this was written when flintlock muskets were in every home to protect fom the British knocking your door down or marruading savages Well times have changed. Back then we did not have laws about computer theft but we do now This suggest change and adaption If we can change for what is new and necessary we can get rid of the old , or the intent thereof ,as well

        • Lizard

          “Marauding savages”? Really?

          • JWC

            that was the thot back in the 1780’s

          • Lizard

            We were on their land, killing them, stealing their resources…it’s sort of the ultimate case of home defense, don’t you think?

          • JWC

            I never argued you points and agree with them. However if you were a law maker back in the 1700’s what terms would you use “Deplorable Gentlemen”?

          • Lizard

            Back then they called them savages. But now we know better. The n word used to be an acceptable way to refer to African-Americans, but now we know it’s offensive and don’t use it anymore.

          • JWC

            Sorry I do not wish to expalin myself further If you have not ascertained my meaning “tuff shit” I really don’t need you admonishments

          • Lizard

            I was trying to (very gently and politely) point out why a term was offensive.

          • JWC

            I have little time for people who check which i’s are dotted or t’ s crossed and miss the total point I leave that to desparate trolls

        • LatrinaDiBucca

          Nowadays, marauding savages have an (R) after their name.

        • Bert_Bauer

          I always bring that up to conservatives who are so fond of “original intent” but are either silent or enraged when I point out their ideological inconsistency.

      • JAKvirginia

        We did have with Obama, but, then… oh fuck it.

    • PickyPecker

      I would think and hope that the hospital services would waive charges, given the circumstances.

    • Todd20036

      That purpose has nothing to do with stopping home invasions, either.

      • Tomcat

        Unless your home is a drug dealers home.

        • JWC

          Guns to the people who mostly own them middle aged white men they are penis extenders

          • Tomcat

            One thing for certain, if you see a big ford truck with a white male driver wearing a cowboy hat, he is packing a penis extender and hoping for a reason to use his
            sex organ (gun).

          • JWC

            Its prevalent and more noticable there but its not just a ‘southern thing Sort of strong in the north mid west

          • Jon Doh

            Around here the Ford drivers are the smarter ones, it’s the ones driving the Dodge Rams that are the real danger to the public.

    • jerry

      Weapon #3 is needed only if the Zombie Apocalypse is a real thing.

      • Kevin Perez

        It’s not even good for the Zombie Apocalypse because you need enough accuracy to shoot their brains from a distance.

        • Annerdr

          If I’ve learned anything from movies, I’ve learned it’s nearly impossible to hit anyone with a fully automatic gun.

      • ultragreen

        Real zombies can’t be killed. They are the undead who will keep going no matter how many bullets you shoot through them.

        • Jerry Kott

          and that is who is running this country

        • Karl Dubhe

          That’s why you use flame throwers. They’re zombie lighters.

    • Adam King

      Nobody needs any gun for anything. (Fuck hunters. Quit killing wild animals.) If the government can ignore the first and fourth amendments when it’s convenient, it can ignore the second. Let members of the national guard own muskets–that’s the only right the second amendment protects.

  • Rex

    This is when it becomes real.
    Names, faces, and lives – not just numbers.
    How can our leaders see this and feel no guilt?

    • j.martindale

      TLE–total lack of empathy.

      • OdieDenCO

        SEP: somebody else’s problem

    • Todd

      How can our leaders see this and feel no guilt? Because they’re sociopaths with no conscience who are only out for money and personal power.

      • Todd

        Oh sorry, I meant to write “leaders”.

      • Rex

        Yes, if 20 children can get shot to death and they maintain the status quo, there’s no doubt that their personal greed outweighs everything else.

    • JAKvirginia

      You assume we have leaders. Facts not in evidence.

    • Jonty Coppersmith

      The vast majority of them, the R’s anyway, only care about their own fucking bank accounts.

  • ben-andy

    “run marathons….”

    So, apropos the previous item, I guess “cardio” is not as effective in defense of bullets as it is w/ zombies. Zombies generally move s-l-o-w-l-y and bullets not so much. Perhaps choosing a better birthplace would be the #1 strategy, as in the planet Krypton, before relocating to live, work or play in the US of A.

  • JoeMyGod

    Orlando’s hospitals waived the bills for the Pulse victims. I haven’t heard anything about the same for Las Vegas, but maybe it’s too soon. Or maybe there are too many victims this time.

    http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/08/25/491348765/orlando-hospitals-say-they-wont-bill-victims-of-pulse-nightclub-shooting

    • Lumpy Gaga

      Close to 600 ER encounters.

      Kinda difficult to “write that off”.

      Of course, when I was attacked with a broken bottle back in the 80s and came to the ER bleeding from the neck, I didn’t get treated until showing my insurance card. Good thing my assailants didn’t grab my wallet.

      • PickyPecker

        I think they’re going to have to come up with some sort of plan on this. It’s not like they can’t afford to waive the full fees, but….consider the PR nightmare for these vendors if they don’t do something positive for the community.

      • TampaDink

        If only the state of Nevada had some sort of income source…like legalized gambling, prostitution & recreational marijuana.

      • Joe

        Well I’m sure insurance for those that have it will pay out plenty. They could waive out-of-pocket expenses.

    • Rex

      The gun lobby should pay these bills – it’s the cost of their “freedom.”

      • Tomcat

        That won’t happen!!!! We pay both ways for their freedoms.

      • Lizard

        I nominate Bill O’Reilly.

      • fkevin

        Gun tax? Like cigarette tax?

    • Talisman

      Another argument in favor of single-payer universal health insurance. If we’re going to accept mass-shootings as the price for freedom, then we should accept the burden of paying for the casualties. The victims are basically soldiers on the front lines.

  • MB

    For Bobby, Cameron and his love will always remain in your heart. Mays flights of angels sing your beloved sweetly to his rest. Dominus pacem.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zf5UfOuvQHQ

    • HAAAAAAA

      “When he shall die,
      Take him and cut him out in little stars,
      And he will make the face of heaven so fine
      That all the world will be in love with night
      And pay no worship to the garish sun.”

      William Shakespeare

  • Silver Badger

    RIP.

  • Jean-Marc in Canada
  • Ninja0980

    RIP Cameron.

  • worstcultever
    • Jean-Marc in Canada

      How sad a statement is it when shootings are so common and prevalent, that people tweet a plea to make their potential death by shootings a political issue.

  • Tomcat

    I remember back when my parents said television would ruin the world.
    They were part right, it really was any means of communication. By seeing the world people have turned into what they see.

  • Leo

    OT. Today’s episode of infighting…
    https://twitter.com/politico/status/915281692377612288

  • Anastasia Beaverhousen

    The GoFundMe drive is about 2000.00 short of it’s goal… if only 20 of us gave 10.00 each, it would be over what they want. All of you that can get it there.. let’s do it.

    • JAKvirginia

      20 x 10 = 200. Just sayin’.

      But, 200 x 10? Doable. Very doable.

      • Anastasia Beaverhousen

        You are so right.. accounting isn’t my strong suit.

        • JAKvirginia

          Thank you for reminding us.

  • roadtripboy

    I saw this earlier on one the morning shows. Can’t remember if was GMA or CBS This Morning.

  • Michael McReavy

    Somewhat off topic. I found this interesting. As Radley Balko states, more data please.

    https://twitter.com/radleybalko/status/915306107219963904

    • Bad Tom

      No country but America has this INSANE gun kill rate. NO. OTHER. COUNTRY.

      The difference is ALL. THE. GUNS.

      It is that simple.

      • Michael McReavy

        Well, that’s the question, isn’t it. Is it that simple? Certainly there are other things that set the US apart from most first world countries. Poor mental health services. Amazing economic disparities. The ongoing legacy of slavery and racism. The lack of educational opportunities for many and the lack of professionalism in many teachers. The lack of professionalism in many police forces. The US is exceptional in a host of ways that might contribute to murders and suicides. How to sort out the most important contributing factors and how to best deal with them?

        Having said that, my gut tells me that yes, all those fucking guns must have a bad effect. However, establishing that in an empirical fashion may not be so easy.

    • James

      What nonsense. Make guns and ammunition much more expensive and much harder to get. Create registries. Enact much more stringent restrictions. Require licensing; make licenses difficult and expensive to acquire, and require yearly re-licensing. Require proper secure storage for all firearms. Create new, harsh penalties. Close loopholes. Kneecap the NRA. All those things would help.

    • JCF

      As Colbert said last night: “[several gun control plans]…or something better. The one thing that is NOT acceptable: Doing Nothing!”

    • PeedeResistance

      This is neither ‘original’ nor ‘provocative’ (the word would be ‘outrageous’ or ‘unprofessional’, and the author is parading under false pretenses. The fact that she did data analysis *briefly* at 538 does not make her a statistician nor a data analyst; her undergraduate degree, from six years ago (hardly enough time for a lot of experience in any field, far less one in which she does NOT have a degree and has worked for a short time), is in *journalism.* That said, her so-called ‘analysis’ is full of holes, tendentious, violently skewed to the right, and…..surprise!…she’s a recent ‘convert’ to ultramontane, protofascist Catholicism. By the way, the comment on her ‘article’ which received the most upvotes debunks her totally and features links to her psychotic Jeebus writings; that poster later clarifies further in several other comments.

  • ohbear1957
    • CharlestonDave

      That’s an insult to good whores, who are at least honest about the money compared to these two individuals.

  • JAKvirginia

    I’m a sucker for dogs. Now, how do you explain their “dad” won’t be coming home?

    Sorry… I’m getting weepy….

  • Mike Solo

    I don’t know what’s worse, the fact that so many beautiful people such as Cameron were taken for no reason, or the fact that nothing will be done to correct the current situation.

  • ohbear1957

    Hurricane, hurricane, hurricane, terrorism/mass murder. Fuck.
    I need a temporary distraction from the sadness.
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/73057635c705d5b6b75798a7e6029ae47060ec12f2359e2456c08b8a73d5fcc0.jpg

    I’m sure there’s an up-tick in pictures of naked/nearly naked men posted by JMG-ers when the news is bad, but I’m too lazy to search and count.

    • SDG

      Is that you? Do you need a husband?

      • ohbear1957

        Not me, but I’m hoping to find him in my garden.

        • SDG

          Good luck, if he has a twin brother, send him my way, I will pay for postage and handling.

  • MassageBear

    ..

  • fuzzybits

    RIP Cameron.

  • TheManicMechanic

    This is why that fucking turtle McConnell refuses to talk about gun control. In this case rampant firearms are doing what he approves of.

  • SDG

    Personally, I HATE when folks do this. “300 people were killed, but there were no Americans on board”.

    Why the FUCK does it matter? People are dead, for no fucking reason! The fact that he was gay, had a dog, does not make his death any more tragic.

    If he was TARGETED for being gay, ya, another story.

    We should be mourning ALL the victims.

    • NowVoyager

      If you’ve watched CNN, FOX, MSNBC, etc. lately you will notice that most of the people murdered in the Las Vegas massacre have had their relationships and their families mentioned in order the “humanize” them so they just don’t seem like another faceless gun death statistic. I see nothing wrong with that. Personally, all I’ve seen on most TV/Cable stations are the tragedies felt mostly by heterosexual families after this horrific event. Should we remain faceless? While we mourn all of the victims, we should not assign their individual lives to just another anonymous number among the dead in the crowd.

      • SDG

        Thank you, I totally see your point.