Trump Scores 21% Approval Rating With Millennials

Via Mediaite:

The latest NBC polling on President Donald Trump’s approval rating amongst millennials is out — and, unsurprisingly, the president is not doing so hot.

Overall, Trump has a 64% disapproval and 21% approval amongst all millennials. He fares even worse with African Americans (79% disapproval, 13% approval), Asian Americans (78%-11%) and Latinos (77%-11%).

He does somewhat better amongst whites, with 53% disapproval and 30% approval. The poll surveys adults age 18-34 in various demographics, and was previewed on MSNBC’s Morning Joe on Wednesday.

  • Tawreos

    At least he is starting to unite all of us in our dislike for him.

    • greenmanTN

      There is a sci-fi novel about a man who change the past and present, but though the things he wishes for are good goals, the menthods by which they are attained is dangerous. One of his wishes is for world peace, so aliens land on the moon threatening war, and the countries in the world are finally at peace because they now have a common enemy.

      So basically Trump is a war-like monster from outer space.

      • clay

        Ursula K. LeGuin, 1971, The Lathe of Heaven

        It has some truly beautiful writing, excellent first paragraph, strong themes and character development.

        • greenmanTN

          The PBS movie is excellent. I haven’t seen the more recent theatrical movie but can’t imagine it was better.

          The full 79/80 movie is on YouTube FWIW.

          • clay

            Le Guin preferred the ’79 version and said is was the only adaptation of her writing that was worthwhile.

            The upcoming film of Left Hand of Darkness has some promise, having been developed through the theatre, but a lot can go wrong in between.

      • Bj Lincoln

        Star Trek First Contact did the same thing without war. The aliens were Vulcans.

        • kareemachan

          Uh, the Vulcans weren’t the reason for uniting. They just showed up at the end of the movie.

          • Bj Lincoln

            It brought humans together knowing they are not alone in the universe but maybe the only humans.

          • fuow

            Not quite wrong, but also not quite right. In both the Trekverse, the Reboot (only worthwhile because of the hot men) and Discovery (the only thing we probably agree on is that Enterprise was undeserving of consideration) all have a clear meme of being part of a collective sentience.

        • Bluto
      • Or like Clavicus Vile from Elder Scrolls. When asked if he can end the civil war in Skyrim, he replies “Oh, if I had my full power, granting that would be trivial. I’d simply snap my fingers, and everyone in Skyrim would die. War resolved.”

      • cleos_mom

        There’s a similar plot in a flick called Bruce Almighty. God (played by Morgan Freeman) offers a guy whose life is crap at the moment godlike powers and everything backfires.

  • Reality.Bites

    There is something seriously wrong with white people in the US (Quite possibly elsewhere as well)

    • Treant

      We’re coming from a place of privilege and the younger you are, the less likely that you’ve been smacked in the face with that fact.

      • Bj Lincoln

        Exactly.

      • Gustav2

        Membership has it privileges.

    • drbrentzenobia

      That struck me as well. Another way of reading these results is that Trump’s approval among all nonwhite millennials is less than 10%.

    • Longpole

      I think the reason is because white people, esp white men are being knocked off their perch.
      I posted this earlier this year;
      From the time our country was founded until around the 1990’s, white, hetro, males, married to a woman, with some sports paying exp or interest had the world by the tail. Jobs and advancement were already laid out and the way was open for them. Because of this, they were insulated from rejection, had good educational opps while growing up, and really didn’t have to try that hard.
      Don Draper (Mad Men) could go out and party all night, come into work with a hangover and sleep it off on the sofa in his office. Just because he was clean shaven and wore a suit, he got respect everywhere he went. Yet he cheated on his wife and was a drunk.
      Today, these same men, if they are still employed, have difficulty leading and making informed decisions. Just look at the Republican party.
      Guys like Obama had to watch everything they said, dot every I and cross every T and then watch their back. That’s why he was a better leader.
      Donnie’s daddy, along with Romney’s daddy just got their checkbooks out and fixed anything that could/went wrong for their sons, and they grew up to become like Don Draper.

      • Randy503

        And if their life was somehow miserable, they were always better off than those blacks across town. So that made it bearable.

        But I think you are right — these whites are loving Trump BECAUSE he is acting like the asshole they would like to act like at work and to all their neighbors. He gets to tweet and say what they are all thinking but can’t say. They only WISH they could act like him and still be the boss. but they can’t because of PC or whatever else they want to blame it on.

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      • DonnaLee

        I think his base likes that there are no consequences for him.

    • fuow

      Not just white people. Spent too much time in Africa to see them as any different.

    • Willys41

      I know white people who hate Trump’s guts. None of them live in the South.

  • Treant

    If we can translate that into consistent votes…but that seems unlikely. Some do, but most simply don’t bother voting.

    • Tawreos

      They need someone to inspire them and they will come out and vote.

      • Treant

        Back in my day, when dinosaurs roamed the Earth, we understood civic responsibility. At the very least, Trump should have inspired them to vote for any one or anything running against him.

        • I wonder how much of that is our due political system setup in the US. I read a comment the other day where someone was saying she didn’t vote because where she lived (South Carolina), every election was pretty much pre-determined and that her vote for President wouldn’t count anyway, since SC would go red no matter who was on the ballot.

          Where I live, Georgia, I notice that so many races have only one person on the ticket. There was a story in our local news that, on the November ballot, more than 70% of the races in both houses of the Georgia State Legislature had only one candidate. I imagine some folks might see that and feel similarly to the poster above from SC.

          Not that I personally think any of that is a good excuse for not voting (“If you do nothing, then nothing will change” as I’ve heard it said). I just can’t help but think it doesn’t exactly encourage participation. Ya know?

          • Treant

            It doesn’t help, except that there should be some races where one can vote.

            What they fail to understand is that, if they actually voted, races would be much more competitive. SC may or may not flip, but certainly Texas and Georgia would, with the swing states becoming solid Dem. And that would assure that people ran for every seat.

            I’ll forgive them voter suppression, of course, but lack of motivation? Never.

          • I agree. Me, I vote (and donate), but I’m not sure if I’m a Millennial or not. I’m 34 and in some definitions and articles, I am, and in others, I’m too old, ha ha. :p

          • Treant

            You’re on the border and can consider yourself a very late Generation X if you’d rather. I’m a Generation X, on the border right between the early and late.

            That doesn’t necessarily mean we fit the mold. I do and I don’t.

      • Reality.Bites

        But the Babadook is Australian so that won’t work.

        http://www.pinknews.co.uk/images/2017/06/Babadook-lgbt-1_1200x630_acf_cropped.jpg

      • barrixines

        Unless they get an app they can vote with which also lets them upload a photo of themselves making duckfaces while they vote for likes I don’t think there’s a hope in hell.

        Feeling a bit negative – just reading a poll of Australian young people and their beliefs that makes for depressing reading as a majority seem completely untethered from reality.

        • Bj Lincoln

          This!

        • Adam Schmidt

          Sorry, but if we as Democrats can’t relate to young people and their issues (unemployment, extreme costs of education, and so on), then we can continue to kiss their votes goodbye. Or we can bitch about how they use cell phones.

          • barrixines

            I’m not a Democrat so I’ll be over there bitching about their mobiles…

      • j.martindale

        This is true. Also reprehensible.

      • JohnJay

        That’s not enough. They need to also vote in off-year elections so that state legislatures, the house and the senate might be turned. Look at Obama: he was elected… twice… but after the first 2 years, republicans took over the house and then the senate… so that he could do very little. It isn’t just the person to inspire them… they need a longer and more realistic time horizon to win and keep control.

        • Ernest Endevor

          This is the real problem. Had they supported president Obama in the mid-terms we wouldn’t be in this mess. But everyone was too cool to care and mostly stayed home to watch The Daily Show.

          • CottonBlimp

            I’ll never forgive the Daily Show and Jon Stewart for encouraging that mindset in 2010. The Tea Party, the beginning of the “alt-right”, had just formed up and they were challenging Congressional seats across America, and the big message Jon and Colbert wanted to impart on kids wasn’t “it’s more important than ever to vote to save the country from Republicans”. Instead they had a big rally to blame Both Sides and to tell kids “hey, maybe chill out about politics”.

          • Ernest Endevor

            I could not agree more. If you were anywhere near I’d get down on one knee and… buy you a cup of coffee. That’s exactly when I stopped watching them thinking they do more harm than good.

  • AdamTh

    Millennials?… Historically, aren’t they the group with the lowest voter turnout rate?

    • TampaZeke

      Like many other demographics that don’t vote, millennials are the first to bitch about problems that are created by people elected in elections that they didn’t bother to vote in.

      • kareemachan

        Generalizations….

      • Adam Schmidt

        It’s not millennials… it’s young people. It’s always been young people. And it’s always been older people bitching about how young people aren’t like them. Damn kids and their loud music and funny slang!

        • Treant

          Get off my lawn, you whippersnapper.

          • Adam Schmidt

            LOL Considering I’m 48 I’ll take that as a compliment!

    • clay

      They are the primary reason for the downturn in voting rates since the 2008 general election. However, they are NOT particularly low voters when compared to other cohorts when those other cohorts were their age. Gen Xers had even lower turnout, when Gen Xers were as young as the Millennials are currently. The issue isn’t so much which generation the voters are, but what life stage. Each generation has typically been less active when younger, and increased as they aged.

      • Adam Schmidt
        • Treant

          Chicken/egg. There’s no reason for the Democratic party to cater to people who cannot be convinced to vote. And because they don’t, these people don’t vote…

          (Yes, they’re actually wrong; voting access, defense of rights, not having a nuclear war, and so on are important things in their lives, it’s just that the political parties don’t specifically cater to Reducing Prices of Cell Phones and whatnot).

          • Adam Schmidt

            Well, we can speak (and act) on issues they care about. As a group Millennials are as or more progressive on most issues than most of us here. And I’m 48 so I’m going to just come out and say that my generation failed their generation when it comes to the cost of getting an education.

            And for what it’s worth, it we as Democrats speak about issues they care about and actually act on it… then when the Millennials hit that 30-44 band they’ll be a lot more interested in voting for Democrats rather than sitting it out.

          • cleos_mom

            Being progressive and caring about issues buys no potatoes if you don’t vote. Neither does making entertainment and excitement the priority when you do vote.

    • Gustav2

      Here is a dirty little secret, Hippie Boomers didn’t vote either, until they were older.

      • kareemachan

        And another secret: repugs are actively trying to stifle voter turnout.

        • clay

          Including among young adults.
          They’re also actively trying to alter how the 2020 Reapportionment will happen, based not on resident populations, but on voting populations, AND they’re trying to define voting populations by those who have voted in EVERY election for the last 10 years (NO ONE under 28). Old, rural, red areas will have even MORE weight in the House.

        • Gustav2

          That’s not a secret, they are doing it out in the open.

      • Michael White

        I voted in every election since I turned 21, in 1972 ( the voting age for boomers). So careful with broad generalizations.

        • Gustav2

          You, OK, but our generation did not do much better.

          • Michael White

            I know, we sold out to corporate America and as parents screwed up our kids.

    • Rambie

      As every generation has done when they were young, the Gen-Xers didn’t vote in large percentages either. There was a bump in ’92 for Clinton but it slid back after that. Just like in ’08 for Obama.

  • Leo

    Oh NOW NBC and Mediaite care about Millennials. What the fuck ever.

  • Michael R

    Vote you fuckers !

  • bambinoitaliano

    Multiply that number by 2, that is also the IQ score of the individuals.

  • TampaZeke

    We seem to forget that even with his historically low approval ratings, among white people he has majority support and in many areas a large majority of support. What drags him down is the fact that every minority is mostly against him.

    Outside of liberal bastions like parts of California and New York City, most of the white people you meet support Trump.

    That just blows my mind. I find that our country is more racist than ANYONE wants to believe and most racists seem completely and genuinely unaware of their racism.

    • Adam Schmidt

      I’d just like to say that white folks hating Trump is more than just California and NY… it’s true of most major metropolitan areas including Atlanta.

      • Michael White

        And smaller towns like South Bend, Indiana. We are an island of blue in a sea of red.

        • Michael White

          And we have Pete

      • j.martindale

        True that. God help us if the SCOTUS takes up the gerrymandering case this session and doesn’t do something to fix that problem. We win elections by the numbers and lose by the rules.

      • Gerry Fisher

        It really is Coastal + Urban + University Towns + Hippy/Hipster Towns versus the rest of the country. Here in Baltimore, Trump is loathed. However, drive north into Baltimore Country and then up into mid-Pennsylvania or across the Eastern Shore (a peninsula of farm country that includes Maryland and Delaware), and, last year, it was Trump sign after Trump sign after Trump sign with a dose of Confederate flags mixed in for good measure.

        • Dubito et cogitare

          It’s intelligence versus the idiots.

          • prixator

            I’d be more polite and say Thoughfulness vs. Ignorance.

        • TampaZeke

          That’s why I said “liberal bastions” are the only place where Trump doesn’t have majority white support. I just gave parts of California and New York City as examples.

      • TampaZeke

        Reread my post. I didn’t say it was limited to California and NYC. I said it was limited to LIBERAL BASTIONS and gave parts of California and NYC as examples. Atlanta and many other cities (like Austin, TX), towns (like Oxford, MS) and communities fall into the category of “liberal bastions” even in conservative states. But outside of those places Trump enjoys a significant majority of white people’s support.

    • kareemachan

      You haven’t been up to the PNW lately, have you? Generalizations like this are usually pretty baka.

      • TampaZeke

        What generalizations are you referring to? Are you denying that outside of liberal bastions (like many big cities and parts of the coasts) Trump doesn’t have majority white support? That’s not a generalization. That’s a statistical fact.

    • Todd20036

      DC is an oasis.
      What gets me though is that while millennials hate Trump, THEY WON’T VOTE.
      So it doesn’t really matter what they think

      • cleos_mom

        “It’s not about winning. It’s about Making A Statement.”

      • Gerry Fisher

        It’s my hope that they are living through a lesson in why voting is important.

      • Cipher

        I harbor some hope that, after Betsy DeVidiot makes sure that that student loan debt increases, with a deliberate jacking up of the associated interest rates, white millennials will start to ask questions. However, the mere threat that racism will end has this country in a tizzy.

      • Ninja0980

        Bernie is to blame for a lot of that with his both parties are the same bullshit.

      • Hunter M

        I found the same thing. I work with a bunch of 20-somethings. None of them liked Trump. None of them voted.

    • Randy503

      Yup — Im’ shocked that so many of my straight friends and family are pro trump. And there is no reasoning with them. Any thing bad he does is just fake news, and he’s does wonders already!

    • Ninja0980

      This country is far more racist, sexist and homophobic then it will ever admit.

      • TampaZeke

        Exactly.

  • Gustav2

    Until they can vote on their smartphones, this poll just doesn’t matter.

  • Leo

    The takeaway and very telling number from this is the 55% of White Millennials that say the Democratic party doesn’t care about them.

    The stark racial divide in that question will be a growing problem going forward for both party infrastructures.

    • Treant

      Could there be some influence from the Republican Party’s current tendency to woo white people while the Democrats don’t do it specifically?

      • Leo

        Bingo! It’s the kids of Trump supporters, etc.

        Artificial Intelligence and Automation will wreak sheer havoc on the Rust Belt over the next 40 years.

        Unless the Dems start girding for that war NOW, racial resentment with expert scapegoating will grow astronomically.

        • Michael White

          As a life long Democrat I have to laugh. Unfortunately, the Dems can not move into the 21st Century. I had hope with Obama then we had Clinton/Sanders choice. We need young men and women to take the lead.

          • Ernest Endevor

            Couldn’t agree more. Our politicians are TOO OLD. But it costs so much money to mount a campaign it tends to disqualify younger candidates.

      • Rambie

        When about the only thing they see or hear is, “Both sides are the same” what do you expect? The Democratic leadership needs to learn how to counter and leadership that’ll drive energy behind the party.

        • Treant

          At some point, I expect some intellect from the voters and the ability to look past what Fox News is saying. Clinton had plenty of messages. If young people picked up their blurb about her e-mails and ignored the content of what she was saying, that’s not her problem.

          • Rambie

            Her messages were great, but with the attention span of seconds, many didn’t listen. Then add the lies/noise about how she “cheated” Bernie, who many millennials did like it painted a rather bad image.

            The GOP’ers have made an industry of bite sized slogans that I wish the Democrats would learn. Granted selling a lie in 140 characters is easier but still a way must be found.

            Civic duty of researching issues and voting isn’t what it used to be.

          • Friday

            Civics *classes* have been lacking way too long.

          • WildwoodGuy

            I agree that some intellectual response from the younger voters is needed or at least expected. But if the messages that the Democratic party and Clinton created didn’t resonate with the Millennials enough to register with them, while the messages about Benghazi!! Her E-mails! and Crooked Hillary! managed to at least get them to notice, then isn’t it possible the message targeting is the problem and not the recipient target of that message?

          • Treant

            Not necessarily. There were a large number of simple, easy sound bites about how awful her e-mails were and how terrible she was. Issues don’t boil down so easily, and Clinton does not attack her opponents the way Trump laid into her. That’s a good thing.

            I also heard a lot of, “I want BERNIE!”

            We can’t always get exactly what we want. Last time, I voted for Clinton, ended up with Obama, and adjusted. Now grow up and move on rather than pitch a hissy fit and refuse to vote.

          • WildwoodGuy

            I think you made that point better than I. The R’s messaging was very simple sound bites and the D’s didn’t create that kind of messaging. And as you say, it is not possible to boil down issues to a simple, memorable message while it is extremely easy to make simple and memorable character assignation messages.

            I actually lost the last high school friend I was still in contact with during the Clinton/Obama primary because she insisted I was being misogynistic rather than hearing my take on issues… and from her POV as a military lesbian feminist separatist, she may have been correct.

    • j.martindale

      That is a constant whine. If they looked into it, they would see it isn’t true.

      • Leo

        Get them to look into it then. It’s nice to throw up hands but nothing will change. Perception’s everything. Giving incentive in policy or marketing for them to look into it to find out it isn’t true is the next step.

        • j.martindale

          I will put that on the front burner as soon as I finish my day job.

    • Rambie

      Because the Democrats don’t really inspire, they don’t effectively express their platform nor and precious few politicians that’ll stand up to the GOP’ers. It was the one thing I liked about Bernie, if he’d worked with Hillary instead of fought her we wouldn’t be suffering under Trump.

      • ZRAinSWVA

        Agreed on all counts. If she had chosen Bernie as her VP running mate, we wouldn’t be having this conversation.

        • OdieDenCO

          but bernie made sure that was not an option with his attack attitude against anything not his.

      • Leo

        I agreed with the majority of Bernie’s domestic policies but I thought there was too much of a mirage and false idealism in the marketing of the time it would take to implement them and with what remedies such as taxing/ending Wall St. speculation which is never going to happen. His appearance in my opinion of isolationism abroad also struck me as vastly naive. I was never a fan of Hill’s foreign policy but thought the accusations of her being a war hawk with no diplomatic counter-balance wasn’t fair.

        My point is I’m all for inspiring and I get that there’s a lot hurting out there right now but if we’re inspiring by promising massive policy in just a couple of years, I don’t see that as the honest politics Bernie’s claiming to represent.

  • Frostbite

    Trump is one thing I wish Millenials would kill…

  • j.martindale

    Now if they would just vote.

    • Treant

      BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

      My generation didn’t when I was that age, thinking there was nothing in it for them. This one is no different.

      • j.martindale

        Only when their asses are on the line. During the Viet Nam War, they voted.

        • Ernest Endevor

          They mostly rioted.

          • Silver Badger

            To be honest, some of us were too busy having sex to riot.

          • Ernest Endevor

            There was that, too.

          • Todd20036

            Ah but were anyone of you doing both at the same time?

        • drbrentzenobia

          Yeah, healthcare doesn’t matter much to young people because they’re all immortal, right? Or else they figure they won’t live past 30 anyway (“hope I die before I get old/talkin’ ’bout my generation)

          • cleos_mom

            I used to ask people who said they didn’t trust anyone over 30 what the MO would be when they themselves were over 30. Would they keep extending it every decade until they didn’t trust anyone over 90?

            The answer, in the majority of cases, was a sigh and

            “oh….. I really don’t think I’ll live that long.”

            Of course, some of them didn’t. But most of them did.

        • Michael White

          but their votes and riots ( see below) brought the war to an end. We all had skin in the game with the draft. If the millennials had the draft to fear they would participate too.

          • Ernest Endevor

            Which is why there hasn’t been a draft since. I don’t remember it making people more inclined to vote, however. I seem to think it had the opposite effect.

          • Michael White

            But we took to the streets to help end the war. Look at Chicago Democratic Convention of 1967

          • Ernest Endevor

            I was in NYC then and remember well hippies pan-handling in the Village with signs saying, “Just back from Chicago” like it was badge of honor. Chicago destroyed the Democratic party and arguably extended the war.

          • WildwoodGuy

            Maybe that is another reason for a mandated service requirement as some other countries have? Required participation might make them feel they DO have skin in the game?

        • clay

          Only those of the (higher) voting age. Let’s be honest, voter turnout for 18-21 year olds was ZERO until 1972.

          • Jeffg166

            That was the first year I was eligible to vote. I haven’t missed an election since.

          • j.martindale

            The Constitutional amendment giving them voting rights didn’t pass until ’71.

          • cleos_mom

            With the exception of Georgia, which lowered it to 18 in 1943 — a legacy of its governor at the time, liberal Democrat Ellis Arnall. “Old enough to fight, old enough to vote” was the argument, as it was later on.

          • Silver Badger

            Was that the year 18 to 21 year old people were allowed to vote?

          • bzrd

            July 1971 was the first year one could vote at 18, 1972 was the first presidential election

          • cleos_mom

            At which time they and Eugene McCarthy brilliantly helped Nixon into the White House.

            But we were spared the horror of Hubert Humphrey as POTUS, just as some third party/write in/stay at home voters spared us from the tyrannical regime of “Crooked Hillary.”

        • bzrd

          but had to wait until the were 21

      • M Jackson

        I voted for the first time when I was 19 and a theater student at a university — Jimmy Carter over Ronald Reagan 1980. The sinking feeling that was new to me when Carter lost was my confirmation that I was not a Nixon-republican like my parents. Then lots of candle-lit AIDS vigils made that a done deal.
        I was never the most-informed or motivated 25-year old, but there had not been much more than the nightly tv news on 4 channels when I was a teenager, before cable. I read Rolling Stone magazine and National Lampoon, I got music from The Midnight Special on ABC and Don Kirchner’s Rock Concert on Saturday night.

        I have more hope for the millennials today. I don’t care for them much, but
        I had a revelation a number of years ago when I saw the musical “Hair” at the Public Shakespeare Festival production that then went on to broadway. On a summer evening as I watched the hippies of the Tribe climb over the fence and gather, literally, in Central Park, their exchange of information and experience in those iconic songs was most immediately identifiable today with the way that millenials convene as an on-line community of chatterers, that we oldsters who remember rotary phones may have been under-estimating.
        How do we get Americans to vote? is a question that won’t go away, but we desperately need to get these kids to do it.

    • Paul

      Sadly even if some of them went to vote they’d find themselves having to jump through hoops.

      https://www.voteriders.org/news_item/wisconsin-strict-id-law-discouraged-voters-study-finds/

  • OdieDenCO

    nice to see millennials are only 21% deplorable as opposed to 30% of the white majority. there is hope.

  • Jeffg166

    If they only voted.

  • Will Parkinson

    Damn Millennials are ruining the country.

    • Silver Badger

      I thought it was nice to see them finally growing up.

      • TexasBoy

        They still didn’t vote for Hillary are still pouting over Bernie.

  • Skeptical_Inquirer

    A huge problem is this:

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/sep/25/white-women-husbands-voting

    “Last week, Clinton, who has had a lifetime to contemplate the women’s vote, copped to having a theory. “[Women] will be under tremendous pressure – and I’m talking principally about white women. They will be under tremendous pressure from fathers and husbands and boyfriends and male employers not to vote for ‘the girl’,” she said in an interview as part of a tour promoting her new memoir of the 2016 campaign.

    People might scoff at the idea that women vote based on what husbands and fathers tell them to do. And tens of millions of dollars in political messaging has been spent based on the assumption that women will vote collectively on equal pay, abortion, and other salient issues regarding women’s autonomy.

    But social science backs up Clinton’s anecdotal hunch. “We think she was right in her analysis about women getting pressure from men in their lives, specifically [straight] white women,” said Kelsy Kretschmer, an assistant professor at Oregon State University and a co-author of a recent study examining women’s voting patterns.

    “We know white men are more conservative, so when you’re married to a white man you get a lot more pressure to vote consistent with that ideology.”

    As long as married white women, for whatever reason, keep voting against themselves, it’s going to be harder. Also considering divorce happens in half of marriages and it’s becoming more common for the women to earn more and/or be the breadwinner and single mothers who are single because their guy bugged out has existed from time immemorial, I find it immensely foolish.

    Buying into the ideology behind Republic of Gilead doesn’t make them safer and it’s not like the white men they do this for return the favor. Take a look at tennis. I remember Billy Jean King surprised the male tennis players banded together to rip the female ones off in term of prize money even though they supposedly were her friends. Her husband at the time warned her that this is what they would do. The old boy network pretty much wins every time over any friendship/care they have for women if there is no major pushback.

    To make this pertinent, more millenials are single right now. If many of the white female millenials flip to please their hubbies because they got a ring on it, we’re going to be continued to be fucked in so many places.

    • CottonBlimp

      Voting is secret, so I doubt this was about being pressured by their husbands. The simple fact is, just as many women are cruel-hearted as men, and women are often just as happy to hate women as men are. They all just assume that as long as they’re the “good” girl, none of the shit they fling at others will be flung back at them.

      Dunno if you’ve ever worked at an office, but when a woman gains weight or doesn’t do her makeup, the other women on staff are awful to her *way* before the men are.

      • Skeptical_Inquirer

        I do think it is true that women are just as capable of evil as men are. I just find the kowtowing to a system that relentlessly shits on them to be dumb.

        • CottonBlimp

          But it doesn’t shit on “them”, is the key to their psychology. It shits on all those “bad” girls that don’t just shut up and follow the rules and conform.

          Obviously, they’re wrong, and they wind up suffering at their own hands. But the same is really true of racism; white people suffer just as much when they support the kinds of conmen who use racism to get into power.

  • pch1013

    Somewhere a drooling Trump cultist is adding up all those “Approve” numbers and coming to the conclusion that 83% of millennials support him. Viral fake news story to that effect in 5, 4, 3…

  • JWC

    I am quite surprised, other than a small handful, it is this high

  • KP

    Good thing for Trump the millennials don’t vote.

  • Willys41

    Who the FK are these d*pshits who actually “approve” of Trump?

    Oh, right. republicans.

  • juanjo54

    Might mena something if millennials actually voted in significant numbers. They voted but only 49% of those eligible, compared to 70% for Boomers, 63% for Gen X and over 70% for the Silent Gen.

  • mark99k

    The article text doesn’t match the graph on African-Americans’ approval, which is shown at 7%, not 11%.

  • JCF

    “Don’t blame the youth…”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbCYCqeZA2o