REPORT: Trump Campaign Conspired With Family Research Council To Infiltrate Facebook Management

Buzzfeed reports:

Steve Bannon plotted to plant a mole inside Facebook, according to emails sent days before the Breitbart boss took over Donald Trump’s campaign and obtained by BuzzFeed News. The email exchange with a conservative Washington operative reveals the importance that the giant tech platform — now reeling from its role in the 2016 election — held for one of the campaign’s central figures.

And it also shows the lengths to which the brawling new American right is willing to go to keep tabs on and gain leverage over the Silicon Valley giants they used to help elect Trump — but whose executives they also see as part of the globalist enemy. The idea to infiltrate Facebook came to Bannon from Chris Gacek, a former congressional staffer who is now an official at the Family Research Council, which lobbies against abortion and many LGBT rights.

“There is one for a DC-based ‘Public Policy Manager’ at Facebook’s What’s APP [sic] division,” Gacek, the Senior Fellow for Regulatory Affairs at the group, wrote on August 1, 2016. “LinkedIn sent me a notice about some job openings.” “This seems perfect for Breitbart to flood the zone with candidates of all stripe who will report back to you / Milo with INTEL about the job application process over at FB,” he continued.

Breitbart, Bannon, and the Family Research Council have refused to comment on Buzzfeed’s story. The plot apparently went nowhere, in part because Facebook ended up hiring a former Obama administration official for the job.

  • j.martindale

    Imagine if Hillary’s team had done this. But we expect tawdry, unethical, illegal, traitorous behavior from the Republicans all the time. So nothing happens.

    • Goodboy

      Yeah and the Family Research Council is involved in this. Such family values.

      • vorpal 😼

        “Traditional Family Values”…
        …like being able to rape your wife and stoning your disobedient children to death.

        Spare the rod, spoil the child and all that biblical wisdumb.

        • Goodboy

          Whenever a fundie says that you just know the rest will be pure BS.

        • bambinoitaliano

          As in fingering their own sisters. They trained their young how to incest and diddling in underage children. It’s the reason they scream so loud about homosexuals so no one look into their backyard of sexual perversity.

          • vorpal 😼

            That’s just “Christian sex ed homeschooling.”

          • bambinoitaliano

            Better prepare them young so they can be pussy grabber in chief like the shit gibbon in the future.

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    • The_Wretched

      See Also “christian privilege’.

      • bkmn

        white christian privilege

        • j.martindale

          There are other Evangelicals out there besides white ones who hate us, too.

          • Goodboy

            You mean the NALT’s.

          • Joseph Miceli

            No, he means historically black churches that shame their kids into suicide when they find out they are gay.

          • j.martindale

            And the problem that I see (at least with regard to this issue) is that religion is the problem, not race. Race is at the heart of many other injustices, but not specifically this.

          • Joseph Miceli

            Ask people of color how easy it is to come out of the closet . White people may benefit from privilege and endemic racism but they are more excepting across the board then people of color when it comes to alternate sexualities . Admittedly I don’t have a study to point at but it has been my experience over 52 years on this earth . I could be wrong . I Welcome comments

          • bkmn

            I have no doubts about that but the ones who gather around Trump in the WH are all lily white

    • Ninja0980

      IOKIYAR.

    • boatboy_srq

      All this normalization of bad behavior from the Reichwing has got to stop. We can’t shrug and dismiss it because it’s just who they are.

      • David L. Caster

        Rejection of the values held by them is a good first step. One must however avoid playing their game.

  • bkmn

    This is what I have been waiting for. Not surprised in the least the fundies were fully involved in this. Now I hope Fraudlin Graham and Osteen can also be tied into this mess so Mueller can take all of them down.

  • The_Wretched

    Were I in a position of power, I’d review everyone’s file for Bannon/ FRC contacts. You wouldn’t know they are working for your company or a doomsday apocalyptic dominionist (which is bad for business).

  • Stephen Elliot Phillips

    Its obamas fault….

  • Todd20036

    Hey Zuckerman, you suck eggs.

  • Skokieguy [Larry]

    For years, our military has said that future conflicts would be cyber terrorism and cyber warfare and their predictions have come true. I think instead of referring to the “Russia Investigation”, our side needs to change the framing as ‘Russia is conducting a cyber war against the US and our President is responding to acts of war by pretending they are a hoax and he is doing nothing to protect Americans and our Democratic institutions.”

    Those ensnared by the Russian investigations should be viewed as traitors who have collaborated with the enemy to assist in attacking the US.

    • boatboy_srq

      THIS.

      Add to that the likelihood that much of the Reichwing intertubz machine will be implicated as accomplices, or merely treasonous in their own right.

  • kelven

    I’ve got an intuition this is one of the least egregious things we are going to hear about evangelical collusion in this sordid little tale of traitors in the name of Jebus.

  • Butch

    Why I Don’t Have a Facebook Account, reason eleventy billion.

  • Yixing’s Fluffer

    Family Research Council? More like Foreign Reconnaissance Conspiracy.

  • Ninja0980

    Just another reason I’m glad I gave up Facebook.

  • Mike__in_Houston

    I question the use of this photo on articles about Bannon. Bannon’s appearance in this photo, while still sub-human, is obviously the result a very talented make-up person spending several hours working on it. I’d much rather a photo which shows the devastation caused by its decades of alcohol abuse be used; after all, such photos can be found pretty much anywhere one cares to look for them.

  • Gustav2

    It certainly follows the 7 Mountains (Dominionist) plan to take over different aspects of life to insert their version of Christian governance, but allying with Bannon?

    • KnownDonorDad

      They allied with Trump, Bannon is a snap by comparison.

      • Gustav2

        By any means necessary.

    • netxtown

      not trump so much as using the village idiot’s office to pursue their own agenda.

    • UrsusArctos

      Bannon’s an Opus Dei type that has been bankrolled by the Mercers. Just like on Prop 8, the Fundies will ally with Mormons/Catholics/almost anyone to move their political agenda. Nothing new or surprising there.

      • Chris Baker

        “The enemy of my enemy is my friend.” Until my enemy is defeated, then my new friends become my enemies again.

    • Stogiebear

      And Dominionism here in the US is exactly what I had in mind about extremism in my comment on the AfD posting this morning. These Dominionists are not the most extreme of them — those with more extreme ideologies are waiting in the wings to take over from these “moderate” ones the first chance they get.

  • TheGrandWazoo2

    Two things:
    1. Hurry up Mueller.

    Nope, just the one thing.

    • Goodboy
    • Rambie

      I want him to hurry too, but I also want him to have all the evidence needed to tear down as many GOP’ers are possible too. It takes time but I can’t wait for the day

      • ColdCountry

        I think he knows how big this is, and what he is up against. I think he’s making sure that whatever he has in airtight. And I, too, wish he’d hurry, but doing it right is the biggest thing.

      • Nowhereman

        I hope it takes out the whole damn party and Facebook too.

  • Henry Auvil

    I HATE Facebook with the heat of a thousand suns. I REFUSE to open it. I blame it for Trump and for the ongoing–now irreversible–moronization of America.

    • BillysWilly

      I’ve never had a FB account and never will. It’s stupid waste of time reading about the minutia of people’s daily lives

      • Librarykid

        As my mother used to say, I have all I can do to take care of my own business.

  • zhera

    Oh, I would so LOVE to see FRC go down with the Trumptanic. Alas, this will boil down to nothing just every other scandal in the White House. All is allowed now, because IOKIYAR.

    • netxtown

      PerKKKy is right in step with donnie.

  • another_steve

    I’ve lost the thread of this Facebook scandal. Someone please help me here.

    Is this the end of Facebook?

    • Leo

      Snapchat nor whatever comes next for Gen Z will not mark the end of Facebook in terms of generational pick-up, as long as their expansion into Europe and Asia succeeds, which it isn’t. Europe’s pissed over their flouting regulatory rules and China’s pissed over their avoiding censorship law. There’s technically several Facebook “scandals”.

      • another_steve

        Thanks.

        Somewhat reminiscent of how the tobacco industry is managing to prosper given growing western aversion and hostility toward smoking: by expanding their influence / fostering addiction in Asia.

      • kareemachan

        Bummer.

        /s

  • Leo

    OT. Huma should’ve left earlier. Didn’t want to be a distraction, I get it, but. yeah.
    https://twitter.com/AP/status/912326502917836800?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

    • Ninja0980

      Staying with him brought Hillary down, no nice way to put it.

      • Leo

        It helped. I agree. The double standard applied to both she and Hill of choosing to stay with their man so those voters went for the pussy grabber instead. Logic! /s

        • Ninja0980

          Yup.
          Not only that but if this was a Republican woman’s husband, no way would she get attacked like Huma has.

          • Leo

            Except that saga goes way beyond infidelity. Race baiting voters on Huma was a key component of the alt-right, and if you follow some corners of the Russiagate scandal vis-a-vis Russian bots, it will be a major component of the Mueller investigation.

  • bkmn

    And Milo was the one who dreamed this up….is today Christmas?

  • Scott_Lumry

    I was immediately drawn to the information that Chris Gacek, serving as the Senior Fellow for Regulatory Affairs for Family Research Council, indicates in the e-mail that Milo (Yiannopoulos), a self loathing “gay” figure, is included as part of the deception and infiltration. This is indicative that the FRC was/is using Yiannopoulos, through Bbart at the time, as a way to put the gay community in a bad light and that Milo is, by all credible facts, a method for giving gays a bad name through high profile exposure.

    Not unexpected, but dubious and discrediting of a man who claims being gay, but no one I’ve heard of as having sex with a male on all the blogs who have a high proportion of gay males, some of whom are quite sexually multi membering. Anyone here have an encounter with Milo? The man, and I do not make the association easily, is only a fraud in frilly clothing.

    • Barry William Teske

      Makes one wonder…
      Milo fell for it or perhaps helped write the screenplay?

      • Bj Lincoln

        He helped because he is self-loathing with a need for attention. He became famous for being a bad example of gay men.

  • Xiao Ai: The Social Gadfly

    Fascinating how a platform, developed and targeted for an Ivy League school, morphed into a platform to manipulate, monetize, and control, the least educated and most vulnerable among us.

    • CanuckDon

      Just a monstrous demonstration of how the wealthy prey and rely on the lower classes and uneducated. Lessons that rich bastards pass down from generation to generation on how important the poor are in maintaining their high standards in life.

    • ColdCountry

      Sometimes I feel a bit sorry for Zuckerberg. He had this idea, and it took off, and while it’s made him rich, it’s also morphed into this monster that others can manipulate into doing things he probably never imagined. His Frankenstein monster, if you will, but one that can’t be killed.

      • -M-

        Zuckerberg and Facebook management chose not to consider and address the potential for misuse of the platform.

        • ColdCountry

          That may be true, but did the scientist who split the atom envision what would happen? As the saying goes, you get caught up in seeing what you can do without considering if you should do it. And who imagined that facebook would ever become what it did? Not everyone is as unaware as those two girls who wanted to start a platform for people to “review” each other and thought only good things would be said, but how can one imagine what fb has become?

          • -M-

            It wasn’t just at the beginning though. The reckless disregard has been ongoing over the course of years while Facebook grew large enough for its security flaws to pose a threat to the rest of society.

          • ColdCountry

            Sometimes we ignore what we can not control. Not that strategy has ever been successful.

          • -M-

            They could have controlled how easily their platform allowed people to be exploited. The software’s been reengineered and rewritten over and over again. He just didn’t bother (because it was cheaper in the short run) and hoped it’d never bite him in the ass. Lazy and dumb, he ignored Murphy’s law and profit motive for others to find and exploit any advantage his platform gives them.

          • ColdCountry

            Don’t know enough about it to know, but what you say makes a certain sense. Unfortunately.

          • -M-

            I’m not saying he could have foreseen every ramification years ahead of time, but they’ve been managing and tinkering with it every day and they know the power that comes with its scale and the details it knows about people, that’s how they make money after all, so it’s incredibly irresponsible not to have thought about and mitigated the possibility of others exploiting that power in dangerous ways.

          • David L. Caster

            My theory is that once some critical threshold of interconnection was achieved and given human nature, what we now observe was unavoidable. In it’s simplest abstraction, FB is a social network platform that was designed to provide unrestricted interconnection between individuals and groups, virtually guaranteeing that neighborhoods of affinity would be generated and sustained. The notion of misuse is relative to a system of values that exist independent of such a platform’s design—which we now perceive as a problem.

            In other words, if you take away all of the fluff and monetization machinery, when you create a mechanism that encourages and even incentivizes people to connect on the basis of familiarity, one or more shared values, or common social norms, the tensions induced by the emergent polarization of ideologies is inevitable.

          • -M-

            Yes. But even aside from maybe tweaking the algorithms to bring in some news from outside the filter bubble, which would be a good thing, they can certainly detect things like troll farms, bots, and targeted advertising bought by foreigners well enough to implement some reasonable countermeasures.

          • David L. Caster

            Of course, but the problem had to rise to the level where it could be recognized. Unfortunately, by that time, it was too late to thoroughly blunt the attack. Now however, there is no excuse and the matter must be decisively dealt with.

          • ColdCountry

            Totally agree!

          • Bj Lincoln

            I don’t know if he ignored the problems but he was slow in adding features/filters and paying attention to content.

          • Bj Lincoln

            They didn’t pay attention to what was really being uploaded for a long time. When enough people complained and the media pointed out some of the anti-social or dangerous videos did they finally take a look at what was going on.

          • Bj Lincoln

            Because Gutenberg wanted to see a bible on every kitchen table, he created the printing press. While it did educate folks it also open the door to different interpretations which led to the splitting up of churches. Today we see a different church preaching a different twist of the exact same book.

          • ColdCountry

            Exactly. And it also opened up the world of books to everyone. All books, good and bad and evil. Who can foresee the direction the future will take?

          • Bj Lincoln

            We can only guess based on what we know from the past. Problem is people don’t seem to learn from the past and new things come along to change the paradigm. Those of us who accept change and/or make change can look ahead to a point but on the whole, no one really knows what will happen in the future. It is part of our liner existence that makes it interesting.

          • ColdCountry

            And we do live in interesting times….

          • David L. Caster

            The Universe is designed to generate and grow possibilities. Its nature was inherited from the creative instant that gave birth to it.

          • Xiao Ai: The Social Gadfly

            Splitting the atom, might not be the best analogy.

            First of all the man most acknowledged of splitting the atom, Ernest Rutherford, 1st Baron of Nelson, at one point prior to the “split” had done research on the use of sonar in Submarines; A weapon of war. He had to know, at least on some level, the likelihood of his scholastic research being used to that end. Second, Both Rutherford and Fuckerberg started off from wealthy backgrounds.

            If you’re referencing Oppenheimer, who was instrumental in the creation of the bomb, he eventually used his position to lobby for international control of nuclear power to avert nuclear proliferation and a nuclear arms race with the Soviet Union.

            I don’t see Fuckerberg denouncing his cash cow anytime soon. He’s greedy, he’s a passable fame-whore, and he has absolutely no concern for the future of either you or I. Only himself, his family, and his personal wealth. Further at this juncture in our world history, with all of the things that have happened due to military and corporate malfeasance, how could anyone not realize the potential for something like this to not be abused and used in a manner that exploits others?

            He’s to be reviled.

          • ColdCountry

            Likely all true. I lack the ability to imagine the horrors that some people see behind every tree, and tend to look for the good. Not sure is that is a good thing or not these days.

          • Bj Lincoln

            My wife is a pessimist and I am an optimist. She drives me crazy sometimes with all the negative crap.

          • ColdCountry

            I refuse to be a pessimist, it’s too depressing. Besides, I’ll be feeling pessimistic and then I’ll see a butterfly on a flower, or catch a whiff of a blooming rose, or hear a bird sing, and here comes the bloody optimism again. 😉

          • Xiao Ai: The Social Gadfly

            I envy your ability to do that, if it’s any consolation. I still try to be that way to some extent myself but, that skepticism runs deep in me. 😀

          • ColdCountry

            And we need people like you!

          • jmax

            It’s nice to look for the good, but human beings have a fairly long history of using new technologies for destructive, rather than constructive, purposes.

          • -M-

            You just have to realize that someone will always try.

          • -M-

            Looking for the good is wonderful. But someone has to think about how things could go wrong if they want to prevent it from happening.
            Pinto, thalidomide, computer viruses, hackers, targeted advertising etc…

          • grada3784

            Thalidomide is back, btw.

            I guess that means the Pinto is next.

          • -M-

            Thalidomide isn’t bad, it’s just best not to give it during a certain stage of pregnancy. And now hopefully we know it’s a good idea to test for side effects before putting things into general use.

          • ColdCountry

            I have spent hours and hours in Process Safety Scenario Evaluation meetings, “what if” committees, but they dealt with mechanical failure or operator error, not evil. I don’t have the conniving mind for that. For which I can’t say I’m really sorry, though at times it would be helpful.

  • Bad Tom

    One problem with “infiltrating” a high tech giant: they are shark tanks where the sharks are very, very smart.

    Let’s just say that the FRC isn’t gonna shine in that department.

    • kat

      Correct. The Bible-school ignoramuses from Jesusland wouldn’t get past a phone screener at these high tech companies. Facebook, Google, Microsoft, Apple pick from the best and brightest — theres virtually no chance one of these Liberty U clowns are gonna sneak in.

      • Bad Tom

        Same deal at Oracle, Amazon, & IBM.

        Real Amazon screening test programming question:

        Assume a two dimensional matrix with asterisks in certain locations denoting “stars.” Write a procedure in any language to print out the constellations, where a constellation is all adjacent stars. You have 1 hr.

        My solution was a recursive procedure in Perl. Worked fine.

        • Reality.Bites

          I’d have just said “Screw it, I’ll buy the damn book at Barnes and Noble!”

          • Bad Tom

            They didn’t like me enough. (I even gave them a tip about a Kindle malfunction, walked them through it on mine.)

            So instead I went to work for security firm NIKSUN, and now I’m a CIO of a network security startup. It worked out OK.

          • Bad Tom

            I considered writing it in PL/SQL just to be obscure.

    • Alexodia

      We tend to be extremely liberal and don’t play well with anyone to the right of moderate too.

  • JWC

    Its time to “OUT” the Family Research Council” for who and what they are Facebook has lost a lot of respect

  • Barry William Teske

    My favorite ‘learned’ professionals statement:
    “Well, I don’t know that!”
    Even though the documented evidence, 3 times over, is right in front of them…

  • Nowhereman

    OK, pull FRC’s tax exemption. If they want to play politics, they can pay taxes.

    • TimJ

      Listen to any of their shows. All they do is play politics. The Word is a looong way down their list of priorities.

      • boatboy_srq

        The Word is among their priorities? Whodathunk.

    • JW Swift

      Ain’t gonna’ happen. Even under Dem administrations, the IRS has interpreted the rules over non-profits to mean only that they can’t actively campaign for specific candidates. They can campaign for candidates of one party over another, and meddle in lots of other ways, and won’t run afoul of the tax man. And now, after Citizens United and having a Rethuglican-controlled Congress (both houses) and POTUS, there ain’t no way that anything will happen to them.

  • JackFknTwist

    No one can now doubt the total war that we must wage against the right; at every opportunity the right has conspired with church, politicians, and media to undermine respect for our equality, to reverse judicial decisions, and where they cannot succeed in reversing those decisions they seek to bypass them by claiming concocted “religious exemptions”.

    This struggle between us and the religious/political Right is titanic.
    And it is one we cannot afford to lose.
    Get the young vote out…..obilize your relatives!
    Being gay means being political.

    • Phillip in L.A.

      ‘Being gay means being political.’

      It certainly did–and does–to me! But I wish that were true more generally today….

      p.s. second-to-last line, *mobilize* (?)

      • JackFknTwist

        Ha ha ha, funny you should draw my attention to my spelling of “mobilise”.
        I was corrected by ‘spellcheck’, so I decided to consult my copy of Oxford English dictionary ( the book sits here on my desk).
        It gives the spelling with an ‘s’ or a ‘z’.
        So I plumbed for the ‘s’…..haha , solely on the basis that I don’t like ‘spellcheck’ telling me I’m wrong ! – and it’s more English, less American.
        My vanity knows no bounds !

        • Phillip in L.A.

          You wrote “obilize”–I was not commenting on the s/z, nor on Roland Barthes, for that matter! 🙂

          • JackFknTwist

            Yeah, I mistyped. I thought you were taking issue with the ‘s’ or ‘z’ matter.
            Anyhow, it’s all fun . Thanks.

      • JackFknTwist

        The Oxford English Dictionary is on my desk. I actually looked up this spelling because “Spellcheck” corrected me.
        The Oxford gives me both spellings……so I went with the English “s” rather than the American “z”…………
        I hate when “Spellcheck” corrects me. (it’s vanity)…….but it’s funny you pointed out the issue that had stopped me in my tracks !

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  • Tomcat

    Keep believing the Russians had no effect on the outcome of the election.
    If you do you are a fool.

  • Mike Knife

    That is how the anti-gay Christians do it. They put their people into positions in LGBTQ groups and churches and just about everywhere to spy on who is in the LGBTQ groups and take down what they do and say so the anti-gay Christians can use the information to make trouble for LGBTQ groups and people. Anti-gay Christians are afraid of any LGBTQ people who are strong and brave and stand up for the truth and take action.

    • Phillip in L.A.

      But these ‘moles’ are often easily sniffed out, as they are usually extremely dull, and stand out like a sore thumb against all the strong and brave and fabulous LBGTQ people!

      • Mike Knife

        Phillip in L.A., are you one of them? You seem to know a lot about moles or have you spotted them? If so and if you are not a mole have you exposed the moles to others in the group?
        Sometimes moles are ex-gay Christians who pretend to be real gays to try and stop other LGBTQ people from being gay. In other words they are there not only to spy and take names and plans but to stop gays from being gays any way they can. Some of these anti-gay moles get in deep and put on a good show and make a place for themselves and some even reach leadership roles like they do in other organizations to disrupt them and make trouble. The moles report back to their boss, usually in the Christian religion or government. Sometimes these moles call themselves “observers” and take pictures and leave their cell phone on in their pockets or in a bag so the boss or his people can listen in and record the meetings. Their goal is to take over the meetings and control them and control the LGBTQ people so they can not protest and be effective when the gays are being attacked by the same people the moles are working for.

        • Phillip in L.A.

          I–a mole!!! Bwahahahaha No, I am not. I have been out and proud since 1981. The only way I know ‘anything’ about ‘moles,’ is from reading gay liberation literature (e.g., “Gay Sunshine”) and attending many, many meetings in my 35+ years of various LGBTQ liberation groups (not to mention litigating civil rights cases on our community’s behalf). They pointed out to me that moles are usually obviously and ponderously dull.

          No, I have not ratted-out anyone here, either. It is not so easy to tell who is legit and who isn’t, when there is no face-to-face meeting; there are only a few folks here who seem to display any signs (and then it’s not easy to tell who is just ignorant–but wants to learn–vs. who is ignorant and proud of it.) Also, since being gay is no longer ‘criminal’ in any part of the U.S., there is little to be gained from ‘exposing’ anyone here. OK, maybe if they are Mormons (or live in a more ‘backwards’ area of the world.)

          Why would you even think this? Have you bothered to check my comment history?

          • Mike Knife

            A real gay person would know that the easiest to tell a fake gay or a ex gay Christian is to kiss them and then feel their crotch and then have sex with them. A mole will stop at kissing and a ex gay Christian would stop at a crotch feel or sex. The fact that you suspect moles and do nothing make you look guilty. Why did you not do the above and tell other LGBTQ people about what you found out? There are real LGBTQ people who do the above. Get real amigo.

          • Phillip in L.A.

            (1) You have no avatar photo, and a “Private” Comment History (mine is open to all), “Mike Knife,” which tells me just about everything I need to know about you.

            (2) Your “opinion” about who is, and who is not, “a real gay
            person” also tells me you are probably here at J.M.G. only to attempt to sow divisiveness and suspicion–strangely enough, just what a “fake gay”(*) or “a [sic] ex gay Christian” might be expected to do! Someone is a “real gay person” if they say, think, or feel they are gay, in my book, and I am as queer as they come–how about you?! How have you come to possess such esoteric knowledge about what constitutes a “real gay person”?

            (3) Frankly, I cannot recall any time when any man “stop[ped] at kissing,” or “stop[ped] at a crotch feel or sex” [sic] (although I’m not really sure what “stopping at sex” means. Is that when both of us are naked, and one guy walks out, citing Leviticus? Because that has NEVER happened to me.)

            (*) There probably is no such thing as a “fake gay.” Why would someone pretend to be a member of an oppressed minority group that has been hated and feared for 500+ years; who could lose their job and home and livelihood in a majority of States CURRENTLY and also be subject to random beatings, abuse, and violence, as well, JUST FOR BEING THE PERSON THEY WERE BORN TO BE? (Unless, perhaps, it is for imminent and certain financial gain, à la John Holmes, Peter North and other ‘gay-for-pay’ adult entertainment stars; or maybe certain Matt-Drudge and Milo-Yiannapoulis types, who also prey on our community solely for their own financial enrichment).

          • Mike Knife

            Did I touch a nerve?

          • Phillip in L.A.

            No.

  • TampaDink

    If only F.R.C. hadn’t lost their “star” executive, Josh, he could’ve coordinated efforts to infiltrate Ashley Madison.

  • William

    The FRC should be considered a terrorist organisation.

  • fuow

    I’m shocked, simply shocked.
    Not.

  • Halou

    The plot apparently went nowhere?

    So what was all that about Russia spending more than $100,000 on facebook ad space and not being subject to the standard vetting and oversight that is common for other ad buyers? What was the reason Facebook had a team working inside Trump’s campaign headquarters just down the hall from Cambridge Analytica with their not insignificant cache of Democrat voter data as provided by “not wikileaks”?

  • MountainBoy

    I still say there’s a resemblance to Maggie Smith … 🙁
    Poor Maggs …

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1c35b9f5773c907d44ca93d803453a49c7a5299be7d8e0a2e59782aaf6f2e731.jpg

  • JCF

    Can I say something more (OT) re last nights Oprah-facilitated Sanes vs Deplorables “conversation”?

    One of the deplorables brought up Drumpf’s line re Putin, and extended it to collusion: “What, you think we’re so different? The US has colluded to overthrow other countries’ elections!”

    …which is, of course, true. But remember when these SAME ASSHOLES trashed Obama, for supposedly not (sufficiently) believing in “American Exceptionalism”??? All these DECADES of denying that the USA was (at least in foreign policy) anything less than Always Right, NOW they’re suddenly accepting the WORST of the USA’s international crimes…as JUSTIFICATION for what another nation, Russia, does to us! What the Actual Frelling Fuck???

    Correllation: you hear again and again, that undocumented immigration by (particularly) Mexicans, is some kind of “invasion”. Well, if the US is so horrible, why TF *shouldn’t* we be invaded and conquered? How do you even justify Drumpf’s “America First”, if the USA is/has long been such an international criminal enterprise?

    I mean, I’ve long disagreed w/ the American Right Wing…but at least they used to HAVE IDEALS, even if I though I thought they were misguided/far from achieved. But what Drumpf has done, has reduced (slightly less than!) half the US electorate to UTTER CYNICISM. Nothing matters any more—except hating the people Drumpf hates. Hate IS their highest value. Period.

    {rant ended}

  • That_Looks_Delicious

    Every day I get another reason to feel justified in always having hated Facebook.

    I’m still working on getting my parents to drop it, and they keep trying to get me on FB. We’re at a standstill.