REPORT: Mueller Likely Has Trump’s Tax Returns

US News reports:

It now appears likely FBI Special Counsel Robert Mueller has crossed what President Donald Trump has said is a clear “red line” by gaining access to the president’s tax returns as part of a broadening investigation looking for links between Trump’s business interests, his presidential campaign and Russia. In fact, it seems almost certain the FBI special counsel investigation has its hands on the president’s tax returns.

“Mueller would be engaged in malpractice if he didn’t” already have access to the president’s tax returns, a member of Congress on one of the congressional committees looking at Russia’s interference in the 2016 presidential election told me. In fact, people familiar with the type of investigation that Mueller is now running signal the near-certainty that Mueller has access to the president’s tax returns. The purpose would be to use the tax returns as a road map to investigate potential Russian financial influence within Trump Organization limited liability companies.

Hit the link for much more. (Tipped by JMG reader Alan)

  • Southeast PDXer

    Expect an apoplectic fit posted to Twitter by CHEETUS in 3… 2…

  • another_steve

    Ohmigod I fear for Jared’s safety now.

    Daddy-in-law will be very annoyed. He’ll lash out at anyone and everyone.

    • TampaDink

      Jared is in far less danger than everyone living on the Korean peninsula…and the rest of us commoners here in the States.

      • JWC

        Hello there

        • TampaDink

          Hello back! How are things out there?

          • JWC

            Good ! assuming you are home Sam and all are happy to be back in your world

          • TampaDink

            We are. We made it back to Tampa in just over 4 hours….practically record time. The Dramamine did the trick for our poor pup who suffers from motion sickness. Aside from his accidental fall into my bro & sis-in-law’s swimming pool, he had a great time. Just one tree is down in the back yard…we will have a friend with a chainsaw help us tend to it soon.

          • JWC

            well Rachel should be good tonight

          • TampaDink

            I think that she may be rather pissed off at me, I’ve been absent for most of the last 2 weeks. But I’m getting all set to watch her & Lawrence very shortly.

          • JWC

            A bit of a slow day on here. its 1630 here Rachel is getting ready to air soon so it must mean a few late braking bulletins have to come in. Her and Lawrence were good last night . She is getting to the point that, what she alluded to last May, is much much closer to fruition now

          • TampaDink

            Their shows have both been very good this week (as usual) & they manage to include all of the breaking news that pops up after they’ve already planned each night’s shows. I hope that we are getting closer to the undoing of the entire trump administration.

          • JWC

            I watch a programm called “Shreading the Golden Slime” and thot great title for Trumps impeachment

          • TampaDink

            That is perfect!

          • JWC

            The program shows how they take this homemade ball of golden material more fluid than silly putty and run it thru a shreader The program itself has no Trump intent It was just the title that caught my eye

          • JWC

            too sunny here off to read

          • JWC

            Off to build dinner and enjoy my scotch or two With Trumps asshole behavior today I very soon ran out of fucks to give. I am exhausted. Each and everyday you think “he can’t be” and each and every day “he is and it gets worse”

          • JWC

            Have not heard from you in a bit Hope all is OK

          • JWC

            well its time for you to start Rachel and Lawrence Enjoy

          • JWC

            So, did we butch it up and get the fallen tree in the back yard all bucked and stacked?

          • TampaDink

            Not yet. Have to wait for when our chainsaw wielding friend can come over.

          • JWC

            Know any chainsaw weilding Lesbians???

      • another_steve

        Jared is in danger as a result of his future cellmate, Bruno the Horny who’s serving 25 years for sexual assault.

        Scrawny boys mar so easily in the hands of a brute.

        • TampaDink

          Maybe his daddy will loan him the shiv he fashioned when he was in the pen.

    • ByronK

      If he gets worried, he can just turn sideways and no one will see him.

    • Adam Stevens

      Nah. The 666 burned into his scalp will protect him.

  • Bryan

    I guess it doesn’t matter to Mueller if Donald’s returns are “still under audit.”

    • canoebum

      Oh, they’re being audited alright…and then some.

  • Reality.Bites

    A week before they’re made public Trump will sell replica copies.

    • Ginger Snap

      Printed on red caps.

  • Phillip in L.A.

    How would Mr Mueller get those tax returns–LAWFULLY–unless Mr Tramp (or the appropriate Custodian of Records) has granted access? No subpoena has been issued SPECIFICALLY seeking those documents, has it?

    • juanjo54

      It is possible to get a subpoena under seal and the IRS has the tax records submitted to it.

    • sfbob

      Per the linked article:

      “Any U.S. attorney (or an FBI special counsel acting under U.S. attorney
      powers) can request access to tax returns through an ex parte court
      order, and the request is nearly always handled without further review
      up the line at the IRS.”

      • Phillip in L.A.

        “the request is nearly always handled without further review up the line”

        Guess what? This is why lawyers write things like “nearly always handled”; this is one of the cases that cannot be decided by “general rules.” It is a case(*) involving the sitting President’s tax returns (that are being audited by his own IRS), that are not yet relevant to any criminal matter or civil suit that is pending.

        “Request access” for what purpose? “Through an ex parte court order” Have criminal charges been brought against anyone? Is it for a civil case? Grand jury subpoena? Against whom is the subpoena to be issued? What court is issuing it, and for what purpose?

        When the production of evidence is sought, there must be a showing that the evidence is RELEVANT to some offense or proceeding; that it is admissible; and that it is necessary. (United States v. Nixon (1974) 418 U.S. 683, 688 (affirming issuance by federal district court of subpoena duces tecum ordering the President, in advance of a then-pending criminal trial of seven named individuals charged with conspiracy to defraud the United States and to obstruct justice, to produce “certain tapes, memoranda, papers, transcripts, or other writings relating to certain precisely identified meetings between the President and others”); United States v. Burr (C.C.D.Va. 1807) 25 Fed. Cas. 30, 34 (No. 14,692) (Marshall, C.J.) (Chief Justice Marshall, sitting on circuit duty, issued a subpoena duces tecum “demanding of President Jefferson a letter thought by defense counsel to be relevant to the treason trial of Aaron Burr”).

        (*) Not even a “case,” yet. It is being investigated by a subordinate of the President’s Attorney General. Also, Congress allowed the Special (Independent) Counsel statute to lapse. The Supreme Court has not even decided whether a sitting President can be named as an unindicted co-conspirator (for purposes of hearsay exception).

        • StillALiberal

          Are tax returns filed jointly with married couples in the USA ?
          If so, then can Melania (married since 2005) release her joint returns with Donald to the Mueller investigation without the need for a subpoena or Donald’s knowledge or consent ? Just a thought.

          • Phillip in L.A.

            A great question, StillALiberal!

            Usually, joint returns are filed by married couples (although there are exceptions).

            Internal Revenue Code, 26 U.S.C. section 6103(e)(1), provides in pertinent part as follows: “The return of a person shall, upon written request, be open to inspection by or disclosure to–
            * * *
            (B) in the case of an income tax return filed jointly, either of the individuals with respect to whom the return is filed.”

            That is the general rule.

            (e)

            (i) that

  • Dagoril

    It turned out to be a good Monday after all.

  • Oscarlating Wildely
  • Michael R

    Thanks Donnie for getting rid of Comey so
    Mueller could destroy your ignorant ass .

    • another_steve

      Bannon, in a rare moment of clarity, said the same thing. Trump’s firing of Comey started the boulder rolling down the hill.

      The boulder that’s going to flatten Trump’s orange ass.

      • Michael R

        I wonder if Trump and Bannon had Comey
        in the bag and Trump fired him anyway .

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      • Todd20036

        Frankly, I don’t think Sisyphus’ boulder could do that.

        • northern_neighbour

          Yeah, that one was like a pimple on a pebble compared to Trump’s huge blimp of a fat orange ass. Jabba the Hut would have likely been envious.

  • Phillip in L.A.

    “It appears likely” because otherwise it would be malpractice? Was this article written by Jorge Luís Borges?

  • CottonBlimp

    I have this terrifying fear that Mueller is in on the whole scam. That the whole investigation, and us constantly being fed these appetizing teasers, is just a means to mollify the resistance, to keep them from engaging in the kind of widespread protests we saw in South Korea, under the delusion that someone with power is actually doing something about this monstrosity. And I have a horrifying fear that 10 years down the road, Mueller will be announcing he’s really super close to being ready to prosecute the Trump administration, as the latest batch of Undesirables get sent to the Trump Camps.

    • Treant

      On my cynical days, I agree with you. Trump doesn’t have, but could scare up, enough money to bribe Mueller. And Mueller may be honest…but anybody can be tempted.

      • zhera

        In order to manipulate/control people you need a carrot AND a stick.

        Everybody’s got a price. Hopefully tRump can’t find the right carrot or stick to deal with Mueller.

      • Skeptical_Inquirer

        I hope he realizes he would go down in history as one of the biggest slime ages ever and that people would shit on his grave if he committed that kind of fraud.

        • CottonBlimp

          Would he? Or would he get invited to Harvard and the Emmy’s like Spicey? Or would he get a lavish, laudatory funeral like Nixon, full of sycophantic praise where no one mentions what an absolute piece of shit he is?

        • Treant

          But it’d be a really big and expensive grave.

      • CottonBlimp

        It’s not that I think Mueller is susceptible to bribes. It’s that it seems to be a consistency among the elite and the powerful that, whatever their professed ideology or political beliefs, the most important thing to them is protecting the status quo that gives them that power, and keeping the powerless in their place. It’s why liberals in Hollywood are happy to pal around with shitmonsters like Spicer, why monsters like Kissinger and Gingrich and Bush will never be made to answer for their crimes, not by the media, not by the Democrats, not by anyone with any actual power. Every powerful person protects each other, because the greatest threat to them personally isn’t the other powerful people they suck up to so as to hold onto that power, the greatest threat to all of them is if we, the powerless masses, ever gain the ability to hold them accountable for anything.

        I don’t have any trust in anyone anymore, not when it can get *this* blatantly awful and they can still all fucking ignore it.

    • Dramphooey

      My attitude to such thoughts is if they have that much in the bag already we never really stood a chance.

    • Nick in Pasadena

      We’re living in such dark and surreal times that I can understand your paranoia (and at weaker moments, succumb to it myself). But the strong sentiment about Mueller among both the right and left seems to be that he is an honorable man with a solid history of acting in the public’s interests. The same can be said, I believe, for the very large team he has assembled. Enough Dems are privy to what’s being uncovered, I feel, that any “scam” would be quickly challenged.

    • Ross

      You need to look at Mueller’s background.

      As well as members of his team.

      I have. And as a result I am convinced they are on the level.

      I have zero confidence in the Congressional investigations.

      • another_steve

        It was absurd from the get-go to think that congressional Republicans are really interested in getting at the truth here.

        Once the truth is revealed (and I’m confident it will be), their monstrous party will wander the wilderness for a decade.

        • Ross

          Small change?

          …their monstrous party will wander the wilderness…permanently.

          • Tom Furgas

            Maybe we should bring back the Whig party…?

          • UrsusArctos

            The GOP is reanimating the rotten corpse of the Know Nothings so why not?

          • Steverino

            Trump could be the head of the Wig Party.

        • CottonBlimp

          That should have happened 8 years ago. Instead the GOP and their base just wiped from their minds all history before 2009, and the media and the Democrats just fucking let them.

          It doesn’t matter how much the Republicans fuck up the country. They will never be made to pay a permanent price as long as this country wants for a party of racism and lies, and as long as the centrists in power excuse their every crime with their favorite lie that Both Sides are just as bad.

        • Steverino

          And not be allowed into The Promised Land for their sins.

    • geoffalnutt

      When the big day finally arrives…at the gigantic press conference…Mueller will step to the podium – the curtains will part and he will be joined onstage by Trump and Putin. Silence.

    • Robincho

      Are you 100% certain the paranoiacs aren’t coming for you?…

  • Ninja0980

    So when is the twitter meltdown coming?

    • Dramphooey

      As soon as Kelly Anne Cornhole is done with the Emmys.

      • Cuberly

        Ah yes, SQUIRREL!

    • UrsusArctos

      Sunset, Friday

  • Leo

    This is old news. This story on their FINCEN access was done by BBC and Mother Jones back in July. What, did US News need triple confirmation?

  • Jeffrey

    And not just that one clean copy that got “leaked”

  • ClevelandJim

    I thought Mueller would have had Trump’s tax returns months ago.

    • Leo

      He did. This is about the “certainty” another outlet apparently needs for clicks when this was already reported. Twice.

  • Henry Auvil

    The plot sickens…

    • another_steve

      I can’t imagine how all this could get any sicker.

      What…it’s announced that Ivanka is carrying her father’s baby?

      • Reality.Bites

        Then they’ll have to go single payer just for the cosmetic surgery on the baby alone.

      • Dreaming Vertebrate

        What… it’s announced Jared is carrying Steve’s baby?!

        • another_steve

          The thought of…umm…inseminating a thin-waisted attractive billionaire whose ancestors wandered the same deserts as mine and who therefore shares many of my own insecurities and paranoid thoughts is, shall we say, not without a certain charm.

          • licuado de platano

            I think the “billionaire” part is just as fake as the “frum” part.

            He is neither: in debt up to his nostrils and eater of forbidden foods.

          • another_steve

            Jared identifies as “Modern Orthodox.” I did a little reading – it’s like a smorgasbord of Judaism. A little Orthodox, a little Reform, a little everything. They presumably incorporate social justice into their understanding of Leviticus.

            Whatever. Let them live and be well. We all seek wisdom in different ways.

            And besides, he’s going to be my sex toy, not my spiritual leader.

  • Treant

    No surprise there. I’m sure he’s had them since about 3 days after he was empowered.

  • 5moreminutes*imtired

    Of course he does.

  • Henry Auvil

    Princess Ivanka and Little Lord Fauntleroy are going to be soooo “personae non gratae” in the Hamptons next summer. Of course she’ll whine about how “unfair” and “mean” the media is, blissfully unaware of what a tool she’s been to the most historically corrosive and dangerous threats to democracy in America.

    • TampaDink

      I disagree with the “blissfully unaware” part of your comment. She knows exactly what daddy whore bucks is all about…and she married into a similar family, with the exception of pretending to be devout Jews instead of half pretending to be Presbyterian…and not even knowing for certain if Presbyterians are Christians.

      • JWC

        Or if any of that mattered beyond the $$$$$ signs

        • TampaDink

          Those same dollar signs have led her to ignore a lifetime of being objectified & mauled by her lecherous father.

      • Henry Auvil

        Agree. Daddy Whore Bucks boasting to the United Nations about how smart he was to license his name to a hideous tower across the street pretty much disqualified the US from bragging rights about anything, ever.

        • TampaDink

          He has done so much damage to our country…and if allowed to stay in office a full term…or non-existent god help us, a 2nd term, he’ll do permanent damage to the entire planet as long as it lines his pockets or boosts his fragile ego in some small way.

    • Nowhereman

      I’m thinking that Thanksgiving is going to be awkward for the Trump-Kushner crime family.

    • Rebecca Gardner

      I hate the people in The Hamptons. They are so shallow I’ve stepped in deeper puddles.

      One summer a friend invited me out because she wanted me to take her flying, I just got a new aerobatic plane. I walked into the house and this bitch with her phony smile extends her hand and says, “Hi. What do you do?” I was like WTF? So I told her, in my thickest blue collar NYer accent I could muster, “I’m a Sanitational Engineer. Ya know, I ride the back a da gawbage trucks.” She says, “How nice!”

      Next morning my friend and I are up early. She sees us leaving and wants to know where we’re going. My friend says, “Becca’s takin’ me for a ride in her plane.” I look right at her, and with that accent say, “We got a good fuckin’ union contract!”

      Odd, I was never invited back. LOL!!!

      • madknits

        I love you.

      • Oscarlating Wildely

        As with so many things we are in complete agreement.

        I work with people who summer (yes, used as a verb) in the Hamptons.

        It’s like talking with the walking definition of vacuous.

        • Robincho

          If you ever end up in jail, I’ll spring you!… 😉

      • Todd20036

        Marry me. You’re my soulmate

      • Robincho

        “Well it was just GHASTly”…

        • northern_neighbour

          Hahaha! Well OF COURSE it was !

          I mean, it HAD to have been, way back then, long before social Twitter …got “the VERY BEST people” together, and onto the same page, … Dahling!

          Cuz nowadays when the A-LIST “summer” in the Hamptons, they don’t have to risk rubbing shoulders with the lumpen-plebes … like this ‘GHASTly’ becca chick from the Gawbage trucks!!!!

          The A-LIST people are all on Twitter now, and they can just be ‘GHASTly’with one another … electronically … without the inconvenience of physical presence, … and those awkward little moments …

  • TampaDink

    They were secretly delivered to Mueller under cloak of darkness by a mid 40’s woman wearing a long, but very fashionable trench coat & expensive but impractical high heels, her face was hidden in the shadow beneath an expensive wide brimmed hat, she spoke with a Slovenian accent and mumbled something about a fucking prenuptual agreement.

    • Henry Auvil

      “In the old days, we returned to Slovenia every six months to renew our tourist visas, then went back to Miami to model for cheap German catalogs. Today there’s just no class or ethics.”

      • TampaDink

        Who knew that marrying for wealth, power & a path to U.S. citizenship would have so many down sides?

        • Johnny Wyeknot

          Drippy ones

          • TampaDink

            Urine town….the D.C. drama.

        • UrsusArctos

          Yay! Glad to see you’re back online and rousing rabble. Get any wind damage in Tally? I hope the Tampa place did OK.

          • TampaDink

            Thanks! Glad to be back here among my people. We didn’t return home until yesterday…but apparently our house only lost power for a few minutes. (The ice in the ice maker bin was not at all clumped together, so there was definitely no time for it to melt.) We had 12 hours without power at my brother’s house…but they have a generator & a camp stove.
            We have a tree down in the back yard but it didn’t hit the house & we’ll get it chopped up & removed soon. Our backyard is prone to flooding but Irma moved through here so fast that there was no issues from that, thankfully!

          • Steve Teeter

            Great news. Thanks.

          • TampaDink

            😉

          • northern_neighbour

            Not bad for your old frame house built in the 20’s.
            Might to good to further fortify, though, before the next monster storm. You guys are living dangerously it seems.

            Anyhow you both survived and we celebrate that TD … Cheers!

          • TampaDink

            Thank you! I don’t know much that can be done if another storm heads our way to protect the house from the towering live oak looming above the roof. The upside is that the house and its contents are well insured. We’ve been listed as an overpriced tear down for 2.5 yrs., we were bracing for Irma to expedite our eventual move to Tallahassee. Maybe we’ll find a buyer before the next monster storm. Tampa has not suffered a direct hit from a hurricane since 1921. Every year as storm season begins, every local news outlet incites as much fear as possible….”we’re long overdue…this may be the year that we pay for nearly a century of no direct impact”…blah, blah, blah.

        • northern_neighbour

          Yeah, well there are some up sides too, … Melania won’t be going to jail, plus can you imagine the book deals she’ll get when Trump goes down. She’ll hardly need his money by then. If she gets a good writer it will be an absolute barn burner.

          • TampaDink

            I’m sure that she can hire the guy who was the ghost writer for “The Art of the Eel”.

      • 2guysnamedjoe

        “Today I model for a cheap American ‘billionaire’.”

    • Nowhereman

      “She said her name was Natasha but that was probably just her cover name.”

    • boobert

      It would be delicious if she did that ! She would instantly become the most famous woman in history. A tell all book would make her vastly wealthy.

      • TampaDink

        She’d be made famous by her not so subtle death from a high heel accident.

    • Todd20036

      Her code name was “Natasha”

      • TampaDink

        I can actually hear her voice in my head, expressing, “must kill moose & squirrel!”

    • Beagle

      Change the accent, and I could see Veronica Lake in that part. Or maybe Barbara Stanwyck.

      • TampaDink

        They both had more class in their toenail clippings that Melanoma could ever buy.

      • Robincho

        Barbara Stanwyck’s death has just been officially classified a drowning. They found her, face down in Veronica Lake…

  • Christopher
  • geoffalnutt

    If we’re hearing about it…it’s old news (in that Mueller only releases info. that has been thoroughly digested.) He’s been very careful about what we know and when.

  • hdtex
    • Nowhereman

      Yeah–he told us if we voted for Hillary we’d get a president who was under FBI investigation…And I voted for her anyway!

  • Sam_Handwich

    screw the tax returns

    unleash the peepee tapes!

    • Cuberly

      A golden shower of schadenfreude!

      • Johnny Wyeknot

        That really would piss off The Donald.

        • Cuberly

          Heh….yellow with rage!

          • Todd20036

            Orange…

    • another_steve

      Not before my dinner, please.

      • DaddyRay

        I can handle it because I will just forward it to every Republican relative in my address book

        • Skeptical_Inquirer

          They will somehow claim it is just apple juice.

      • JackFknTwist

        F uck dinner……..I want my Pee Pee tapes NOW !!!

        • JWC

          To have a veifible and uncontested knowledge that they exist is suffieceint To actually view anything in that of Trump would be barfable BIGLY barfable

    • Nowhereman

      Hear hear!

    • -M-

      I think the tax returns are more likely to help us.

      • That_Looks_Delicious

        And I think Trump has been more panicked about the tax returns than the pee pee tapes. Which means there’s evidence of crimes in there.

        • northern_neighbour

          Maybe, but one wonders’ where the REAL books are hidden … this guy had tax weasels and lawyers up the wazoo.

          The multiple layers of deception were probably only fully known to a couple of master strategists in charge of obfuscating the paper trail in a Byzantine maze.

    • Todd20036

      I like a good pee pee tape as much as the next perv, but I really don’t want to see Trump’s baby straight

      • Steverino

        If you’ve seen Manneken Pis, you’ve seen it.

  • Dreaming Vertebrate

    Manafort WAS wiretapped!! HA!!

  • Bryan

    Completely especially O/T but JMG’s like teh family – been spending the day trying to get the rental issue I mentioned the other night resolved. We’re hoping we can either “bribe” her into letting us stay or find a place within our income bracket. Got some help setting up a GoFundMe… if anyone knows people or friends of people that could spread it around (maybe passing the link along?), I’d really appreciate it and so would mom, thanks everybody. Appreciate it!

    https://www.gofundme.com/helpTammywithrent

    On topic – I really want Muller to hurry the hell up and garrote Trump before he nukes North Korea and kills us all.
    ….Although that might be a novel way of solving my rent problem now that I think about it /s.

  • Tom Furgas

    I’ll bet Mr. Trump believes he can pardon himself. Or he’s in talks with Pence to do it after the dust settles.

    • Dreaming Vertebrate

      Dumpf (eating chocolate cake): BurrPP! Oh, pardon me!!

    • Bryan

      Can someone photoshop his face onto that south park record producer? I really want to hear him shout that he thinks he’s above the law and then promptly require more gel to silence the abomination on top of his head.

    • AJayne

      Could be why Rachel focused on Pence’s part in this enterprise recently – no pres can pardon a co-conspirator, as that would be the equivalent of self-pardon…

  • ByronK

    Breaking: The US gov. had a wiretap on Manafort under a secret FISA warrant.
    http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/18/politics/paul-manafort-government-wiretapped-fisa-russians/index.html

    • Dreaming Vertebrate

      Dumpf must be sputtering mad right about now!! Love it!!!!!

    • DaddyRay
    • Dreaming Vertebrate

      This is really big news, … right?!

      • ByronK

        I should think so.

      • Reality.Bites

        I wonder if this is what that guy who says he knows he and Trump are both going to jail has been talking about

        • Dreaming Vertebrate

          Aha! That’s Felix Sater and that might be what has him so worried!!

          • SoCalGal20

            Also worth noting that Felix Sater has been a government witness before. If they’ve flipped Donnie Two Scoops is in trouble wirh a capital T.

          • UrsusArctos

            I hope he pardons them in a panic move thinking he’s saving his own ass. If he does that they HAVE to testify against 45* or possibly go to jail on contempt charges. Schadenfreude overload.

    • DaddyRay

      I am sure Breitbart will say FISA warrants are handed out like candy and there is no story here

    • Leo

      If you entertain some allegedly ‘well-sourced’ quarters of Twitter, the amount of FISA warrants that haven’t been reported on yet is about 8 or 9.

      Oh, and this: https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/909915602172678144

    • MikeBx2

      Constantly wondering what does Mueller already know must be agonizing for Trump. Good!

      • UrsusArctos

        You’re just hoping to hear about an aneurism soon. Paralyzed, fully cognizant, but unable to do shit would suit me as fine in this case.

        • greenmanTN

          If I had a mean streak I might wish Locked-In Syndrome on him, so it’s a good thing I’m sweet as pie. Really!

          http://media.buzzle.com/media/images-en/gallery/human-expressions/1200-487654510-cross-finger.jpg

          • thatotherjean

            That’s way too cruel to wish on anybody, even Donald Trump.

          • Opinion Sousaphones

            Ah, my sweet-as-pie babu! It is probably best for you not to wish it. That Twain quote comes to mind, “Anger is an acid that can do more harm to the vessel in which it is stored than to anything on which it is poured.” Besides, if such wishes could have any effect in the world, Trump would already have burst into flames many times over… worse than an oil fire in frying pan.

    • Dreaming Vertebrate

      Remember how the FBI raided Manafort’s home and woke him up in the wee hours dressed in a black negligee? They must have found something really good on those wiretaps!

      • Jim E.

        Black negligee? Is that real, or delicious poetic hyperbole? I’m dense, and often don’t know the difference.

        • greenmanTN

          Enquiring minds want to know!

          • Jim E.

            oh who cares, I’m going with negligee.

    • Johnny Wyeknot

      Too bad about that critical gap during junior’s meeting with the Russian attorney where he claims he was sniffing around for Hillary dirt.

    • Rebecca Gardner

      Remember the IC Tweet? “He will die in jail.” It’s gonna happen.

      • Steverino

        I’m hoping for Supermax, in a cell adjacent to the Unabomber.

  • JCF

    Please Lord, Please Lord, Please Lord, Please Lord, PLEASE!!!

    http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxkjpn6iUk1qbcq69.gif

  • -M-
    • Henry Auvil

      If those people are about to have sex, I want to be somehow involved.

      • -M-

        Mad Men. Joan Holloway, played by Christina Hendricks, and Don Draper, played by Jon Hamm.

      • JCF

        My all-time favorite NPH awards song:

        “There’s Mad Men’s Joan:
        The curves that she owns
        Could make a blind man say ‘Damn!’

        She could turn a gay straight
        Oh wait, nevermind,
        There’s Jon Hamm!”

        Ironically

        [spoilers]

        As far as we were shown, Joan and Don never did have sex. My favorite moment between them: Joan was offered a bunch of money (plus a partnership) by the firm, if she would have sex w/ a client (who demanded it, in order to do a deal). Don finds out about this, and goes to Joan’s place, to beg her not to take the deal. At that point, the episode rewinds: you find out that when Don comes to Joan’s place, dressed up for her “date”…she’s actually she just arrived back at her place. She’s already done it (sex w/ the client)—but she doesn’t tell Don that. It’s an incredibly poignant moment between the J&D.

        • -M-

          I may have made it up, but I think it was implied by dialogue once or twice that they had a hook up sometime before the start of the series.

          • JCF

            Hmmm: that’s when she was schtupping Roger!

          • -M-

            She was schtupping Roger during the series.

            Again, it might just be me but I think there was a once or twice thing with her and Don in the past. Of course it could just have been something other people assumed given how they both got around. She did have the affair with Kinsey.

          • JCF

            Mainly before. I guess maybe they were still seeing each other in S1, but by S2 she was engaged (to that awful—though pretty—rapist asshole). I think the only time Joan & Roger Did It after that, was when they were mugged…and had post-traumatic sex! (which is how Kevin came into being)

            “She did have the affair with Kinsey.”

            Yeah, WTF was up w/ that??? Kinsey also had that African-American girlfriend which—if they went about publicly, as shown—seemed pretty unrealistic for 1961. Maybe if they all lived&worked in the Village, but not for Madison Avenue!

          • -M-

            Kinsey was such a posuer.

    • Johnny Wyeknot

      He always wore such nice cufflinks

  • SoCalGal20

    Ooh Rachel’s show is going to be good!

    Is this why Donnie wants big military parades?

    • greenmanTN

      Trumpland, Trumpland, uber alles.

  • fuzzybits

    i’d be interested to see what’s going on in those tax returns from the 1970’s until now.

  • billbear1961
  • JCF

    Please Lord, Please Lord, Please Lord, Please Lord, PLEASE!!!

    http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxkjpn6iUk1qbcq69.gif

  • coram nobis

    Perhaps apropos, our kinsman Aaron Copland’s meditation on public affairs.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_49SJdiakBs

  • Tempus Fuggit

    Ooh! Oooh! A red line! Guess we’d better upshift.

    • Gianni

      Maybe the show is about to hit the road! Let ‘er rip!

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