“Mother Of All Trump Rallies” Draws Smaller Crowd Than “Juggalo” Rally And Hillary Clinton’s Book-Signing

The Independent reports:

While Donald Trump jetted away from Washington DC for a weekend retreat in New Jersey, hundreds of his supporters descended on the city to demand protection for “traditional American culture”. Protesters came from around the country for the so-called “Mother of All Rallies” (MOAR) – a pro-Trump, right-wing protest that organisers billed as the “Woodstock of American Rallies”.

“MOAR will send a message to the world that the voices of mainstream Americans must be heard,” organisers wrote on the MOAR website. “We are coming together to send a direct message to Congress, the media and the world that we stand united not divided to protect and preserve American Culture.” On Facebook, organisers said they hoped to rally one million people to DC in support of their cause.

From the Associated Press:

While the pro-Trump demonstrators clearly outnumbered the anti-Trump contingent, both sides were dwarfed by the juggalos, as supporters of the rap group Insane Clown Posse are known. In front of the Lincoln Memorial, about 1,500 juggalos staged an all-day rally and concert to protest what they say is class-based discrimination by law enforcement.

A 2011 report by the Justice Department’s Gang Task Force labeled the juggalos, who favor extensive tattoos and outlandish face paint, a “loosely organized hybrid gang.” It’s the same classification used for overtly violent gangs such as the Bloods and the Crips.

The rap duo has developed an intensely devoted fan base over the course of a 25-year career, and its fans claim to be a nonviolent community. Protesters chanted “family!” as well as several obscene slogans aimed at the FBI.

And from the Hartford Courant:

At the head of a serpentine line of Hillary Clinton supporters, Tony Bosco-Schmidt had 18 hours to practice what he’d say when he met the former presidential candidate at his local Costco in Brookfield. “I hear we have seven seconds,” Bosco-Schmidt said before settling on “Thank you. Thank you for your service, and I admire you.”

Bosco-Schmidt joined more than a 1,000 others at his local Costco Saturday for the chance for a brief conversation and to get a signed copy of Clinton’s new book, “What Happened,” about the 2016 presidential campaign. Clinton’s 15-city book tour came to Connecticut after starting in New York this week.

  • FAEN

    And the scream of ‘fake news’ from the Cheeto lovers in 3…2..1.

    • Cackalaquiano

      Has Frito Lay issued statements distancing its Cheeto brand from this administration?

      • FAEN

        They really should.

  • AtticusP

    Most of them were probably busy at home in their basements burning their MAGA hats.

    • Chucktech

      As Bill Maher said the other night, “That means they’ve discovered fire. Tools may be next.”

      LOL

      • AtticusP

        Love Bill Maher!

        He can be a bit of an asshole sometimes.

        But I feel like he’s OUR asshole, so to speak.

        • FAEN

          I don’t like his Islamaphobia.

          • Chucktech

            He’s no more “Islamophobic” than he is “religionphobic.”

          • FAEN

            He isn’t a fan of religion in general-I’ll give you that. However he seems to go after Islam a LOT more.

          • Daveed_WOW

            Well, Islam is measurably crazier than…all other religions

          • UrsusArctos

            They’re in the “crusader” phase western religions seem to go through. Xians have learned how to kill people much more politely. /s

          • FAEN

            True or not Maher shouldn’t be painting every Muslim with the same brush. Secular Muslims vastly outnumber the zealots but listening to Maher I don’t think one would know that.

            And let’s be clear-if the Xtians in this country-who bash Islam at every given opportunity-could get away with treating us the way the Muslim zealots do they would.

        • Carl

          He said there’s a gay mafia. He can be someone else’s asshole.

          • AtticusP

            Didn’t mean to speak for you.

            I think part of the problem today is that we look for purity in our heroes and heroines. I think it explains the disaster we have in the White House.

            Hillary wasn’t pure enough for some people, so they voted for Trump in protest. And here we are.

            I agree with Bill Maher probably better than 90% of the time. He has his opinions about issues, as do we.

            I tend to overlook the other 10%.

          • Carl

            Our heroes? Bill Maher? Seriously?

            People who stopped watching Bill Maher because of his ethnocentric crap and just like people who abandoned the Democratic party for Trump? Do you think before you talk?

          • Chucktech

            OK, so you don’t like Maher. I do.

          • AtticusP

            Yes.

            Are you always this condescending?

          • Carl

            In your case absolutely.

          • AtticusP

            People like you are what the “block” feature was designed for.

            Please feel free to use it.

            I know I will.

          • Christopher

            I blocked him merely for being a condescending asshole to you.

          • AtticusP

            Thanks. 🙂

            Life is too short to interact with jerks.

          • FAEN

            No need to be rude.

          • Carl

            Perhaps, but I’m about all out of patience with being told if you don’t make excuses for Bill Maher you’re a purity troll. Being compared to a Trump voter is the last straw.

          • FAEN

            You can be out of patience and still get your point across without insulting, specially to someone who is a regular, as you are, on JMG.

          • Carl

            Takes a walk….gets some air. Ok. Fine. I’m was out of line with the “think before you talk” comment. Still, I stand behind my argument.

          • FAEN

            That’s fine.

          • FAEN

            I like the idea of a gay mafia.

          • greenmanTN

            I’ve always wanted to threaten someone that I was going to make them femme with the swishes. 😉

            Our new manifesto is out, BTW.

            https://youtu.be/DL1V5256hV4

  • Lakeview Bob

    Kellyanne Cuntway will report that the crowds were huge!

  • Bluto
    • FAEN

      But they feel great when you’re done.

      Hiya Bluto.

    • Todd20036

      Really? I get mine waxed.

    • Gerry Fisher

      I appreciate your effort.

  • Ninja0980

    While this might be funny, they show where it counts, the voting booth.
    Unless our side does the same this fall in NJ and VA and next year, they’ll have the last laugh.

    • Carl

      Yep. Our alleged allies are going to have to vote for some Democrats to prove they really have our backs. No more of this “we need to lose to win later” insanity.

      • Dramphooey

        “Lose now to win later” really was and is a horrible mistake because assuming liberals win a majority again we’re going to be too busy rebuilding everything we’ve lost to move forward.

    • BlindBill

      yet as the hardcore 45 fans see that his core support is waning, they may just be asking themselves … why.

  • Chucktech

    Gawd how laughably pathetic.

  • Paula

    I am sure that most of the Trump supporters were too busy writing check for Harvey/Irma relief, volunteering in their community, helping build housing for the poor, or defending the helpless.
    Oh fuck, what a joke.
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

  • Cackalaquiano

    Still bigger than his tiny hands.

  • Pollos Hermanos
  • RoFaWh

    Time for the accountants to say to Trump, no more jetting for you. From now on, Presidential travel in the US will be by Amtrak.

    I bet that asshole has never set foot in a train of any kind! New experiences! Yippee!

    • thatotherjean

      Hey–we could go back to having “Presidential Cars” on trains, when the President wished to travel, as there were before airplanes existed. Can’t you see Trump on a “whistle stop” tour? Can you get from DC to Bedminster, NJ by train?

    • UrsusArctos

      We’d have a network of TGV/ChineseHighSpeed/ICE/AVE/Shinkansen quality trains nationwide tout suite. The ONLY drawback is that the northern and southern coast-to-coast lines would run atop walls.

  • Durwood
    • Chucktech

      “Wave yer flag, boys! And you ladies out there can maybe rustle up some grub fer yer manfolk?”

      • Nowhereman

        Most of the rally crowds I’ve seen have very very few womenfolk attending. I guess they’re all home cooking and cleaning and raising the babies…

        • UrsusArctos

          Oh no. Some of the nastiest Trumpanzees are female. they’re particularly vicious toward other women. Internalized self loathing tends to do that.

          • Judas Peckerwood

            Most of my female relatives fall into that category.

          • William

            Fortunately, mo oldest sister live on the other side of the country.

          • BrendaRBrown

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        • wds

          It’s hard for them to get out .. being pregnant, barefoot AND in the kitchen … LOL

          • Nowhereman

            I’m also guessing that if anyone in that crowd has a real job, it would be their wives.

      • witch

        Fruit loops, find your own milk

    • Dramphooey

      Laughter is infectious.

    • Dean Cameron

      Next time, they should rent a smaller space. It will look like more!

      • greenmanTN

        Perhaps in a walk-in closet?

    • Christopher

      My condolences to whomever has to clean their cage.

      If I were there, I’d stop by to point and laugh at them.

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/0479a858328dc4741ea135f48bd7b614287f85bcb9a355aefd449af70d199434.gif

    • clay

      I like the old hippy couple at the barrier– looks like they’re at the zoo.

    • zhera

      Still more than Brian Brown could muster.

    • Zellaby

      Share this with the whole fucking world. . . . . .

    • prixator

      I love the fluffy clouds!

  • Treant

    500 people show up to support the “president.”

    1000 people from a small edge community show up because they’re legitimately annoyed by the treatment they receive.

    That should tell Trump something. Of course, it won’t. Fifty thousand people crossed that mall on Saturday, and clearly they were all there for MOAR. Even the ones in the rather strange makeup.

  • Friday

    I think the message is that the Right *ain’t* mainstream America, and it’s about time the *rest* of us were really heard.

    • Chucktech

      Generally, that would be done at the ballot box.

      We’re fucked.

      • Steverino

        The Silenced Majority.

  • Rebecca Gardner
  • AtticusP

    “While Donald Trump jetted away from Washington DC for a weekend retreat in New Jersey, hundreds of his supporters descended on the city to demand protection for ‘traditional American culture'”.

    That’s funny. The people in the photographs that I’ve seen don’t look much like advocates for the Native American community to me.

  • AJD

    Anyone who implies the existence of something called “traditional American culture” is basically admitting they have no culture.

    • Chucktech

      Why, shore we got ‘Murikin culcher. We got hot dawgs an meatloaf an chiken wings an guns an Budweiser an footbawl an jesus, ain’t we?

      • Ken M

        And them historical war statues we need to save.
        “what war are you referring to?”
        You know..the war, that we won.
        “eye roll”

      • Todd20036

        Half of those culture items would upset my stomach

        • Chucktech

          Why do yew hat ‘murikuh?

          • Ken M

            I wish I had your “accent”

    • Cuberly

      I’d love to hear them define that.

    • edrex

      pssst… it’s ALL appropriation.

    • thatotherjean

      Hunh. Ask any foreign country, and they’ll tell you that we do indeed have a distinctive “American culture.” It’s not all good, by a long shot, but it’s there.

    • Steverino

      They are closer to cult than culture.

  • JWC

    I humbly suggest that the exoression “Mother od ALL…. “be retired Pretty well its even been used to describe an evemt the event seems to fail So unless that is yout aim…?

  • TrueWords

    Over the years, politicians from both sides realized that they could only win election by maintaining this vision – whether true or not – and to maintain a positive vision for the country and for the future.

    What’s really scary about Trump is that he’s shown that there is a large electorate in the country who rejects this view and instead believes that their failure and are caused by someone else.

    The Mexicans, the Chinese, the Jews, Democrats are all to blame but in truth the shortest distance from the real cause is a mirror. Trump voters harbor irrational hatred and Trump exploited that to gain the presidency. Now they feel betrayed because government CAN NOT, DOES NOT and WILL NOT work to fix their lives.

    People who believe this are misguided and the politicians who attempt to exploit them are evil. That’s one of many reasons why I detest this man.

    http://www.sharegif.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/31-Bridesmaids-quotes.gif

    • William

      What, you expect ME to fix my own problems?

      • TrueWords

        As my father would say to me…”This is YOUR shit not mine!”

        • perversatile

          All my dad ever said was,
          “You got to pay to see the monkeys fuck.”
          I still have absolutely no idea what he meant, which
          became more than obvious during a 6th grade field
          trip to the Asheboro Zoo,

    • Gustav2

      Trump voters like socialism…but socialism for only White People.

      • pch1013

        a.k.a. “national socialism.”

      • Skeptical_Inquirer

        I suspect they’d love universal healthcare but their hatred for people unlike them is so great, they’d rather watch them die than save their own damn lives and that of their children.

    • clay

      The Blacks, the women, the educated.
      And then when you combine the categories . . .

    • JCF

      “Now they feel betrayed because government CAN NOT, DOES NOT and WILL NOT work to fix their lives.”

      ????

      No, this is exactly what government SHOULD do (re the material problems in people’s lives—I’m not talking about “I can’t get a date!”).

      This is NOT the problem w/ the DrumpfenKorp. No, the problem w/ them is that they are FAR more about “bring Other People—black, Mexicans, Teh Gays, Teh Muslims—down BELOW me! Where they belong!1!!!!” As long as you promise them this, you can (as Drumpf has) do whatever the fuck you want. Sign over the government to Goldman-Sachs, whatever. Just promise them {N word}-bashing, and they’re ecstatic!

      However, TrueWords: working to fix lives—EVERYONE’s lives, including the Planet Earth—that’s what government is FOR. And democratic government that knows that’s what it’s for, is a glorious thing.

      https://media.giphy.com/media/3o6ZtrhwpzTn7yb2Ao/giphy.gif

      [And accept no Libertarian “you’re on your own/pull yourself up by your bootstraps” BS. We’re all INTERDEPENDENT. Always have been, always will be.]

      • TrueWords

        Now they feel betrayed because government CAN NOT, DOES NOT and WILL NOT work hard to fix their lives while excluding everyone else they despise.

  • another_steve

    Deplorables are lazy.

    They don’t like to get dressed and go out.

    • FAEN

      I wish they felt that way about voting.

    • DaddyRay

      They would have to get out of their mothers basement and fly from Russia

    • edrex

      they failed to account for the connection btwn opiate use and lethargy.

    • Todd20036

      Be grateful. Do you really want to see deplorables naked?

      • another_steve

        So, tatella, you would maybe have a problem with seeing the Benham brothers naked?

        https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/60f4641600beeea8ae5998eb84ae4ec126fae7f7fa952c04f1ae5ae1b06ccdf9.jpg

        • Ken M

          Since they’re twins…one from the back, and one from the front. : )

          • another_steve

            And me in the middle.

            My dream Oreo cookie.

          • UrsusArctos

            Food poisoning alert!

          • clay

            rather vanilla.

        • Gustav2

          Yes.

          • another_steve

            Gustav, love and lust are two entirely different things. In no way connected. Most religionists teach otherwise, but they’re full of shit.

            People who censor their own, or others’, sexual fantasies are buying into institutional religion’s Big Lie. I find it particularly disturbing (and somewhat amusing) when adamant atheists buy into that lie.

          • Gustav2

            Sorry it took me so long to reply, but I was at church.

            You asked the question.

        • Acronym Jim

          I would love to see the Benham brothers naked…in a leaked twincest video that would reveal their hypocrisy. A video shot by Papa Benham.

          • another_steve

            Thank you.

            Those two are in the wrong business. They think they’re getting rich peddling hate, but they could be earning 10x what they earn today.

            Their gay porn video – “Benham Brothers Unleashed” – would sell out in 48 hours.

    • Lazycrockett

      As Tim Gunn said this weekend, “If you want to dress like you never got out of bed, then DONT.”

      • FAEN

        I SO agree with him. I can’t believe how sloppy some people are when they know they’re going to venture out in public. I’m embarrassed for them.

  • Cuberly
    • Todd20036

      I will never get tired of looking at the mugshot of the weeping Nazi.

      Shit became real for him, and all he had to do to figure that out was ruin his life.

      • vorpal 😼

        I still think that he and Shkreli would make a cute prison couple.
        (For certain definitions of cute.)

        • William

          I don’t know who to feel bad for. Probably the guard who has to break them apart.

      • Cuberly

        Trump emboldening the embarrassing racists and the entitled losers, ya know, “traditional” American “culture”.

  • bkmn

    Bots don’t do rallies.

  • Rebecca Gardner

    I heard it was poorly attended because they forgot to set up charging stations. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/435618f2e52856ef6167cbcd70a6d47f15a1870aa5933af1242eb92999529fbc.jpg

    • AtticusP

      That, and I hear they had shitty snacks.

    • BudClark

      Problems:

      not enough pizzas with BBQ baby topping
      not enough free Depends
      DEFINITELY not enough Hoveround charging stations
      not enough strictly-segregated porta-potties

  • vorpal 😼

    I fixed it Brian Brown style for Trump.
    Funny that they called it the MOTHER of all rallies since it was probably about 90% white dudes.
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/15b7fe8eb92dec1886f0f7dd8dc196fa37772aaa7dc81b39133bd23ee36f0f11.jpg

    • Dreaming Vertebrate

      The Mother of all FLOPS.

      • William

        The march for marriage had even fewer attendees.

    • clay

      “Mother” is short for a phrase.

    • FAEN

      Hey hottie Vorpal 😊. How’s the day treating you?

      • vorpal 😼

        Hey hey handsome!
        I cannot seem to wake up. Lazy day of sleeping in and napping and napping.

        Hilariously stupid and irritating dreams where the husband was being a totally annoying ass.

        I woke up a few minutes ago all angry about it and gave him a playful smack. He said, “What was THAT for?” and I replied, “Next time if you do that in my dream again, it won’t be so playful!”

        Ha! How is your day going?

        • FAEN

          LOL-Lordy your comment gave me a good chuckle. I did something similar once. I can’t remember what I was dreaming about but I elbowed my ex in the ribs and flew out of bed still asleep. Poor guy was so confused specially as we had just moved in together lol.

        • FAEN

          It’s been a tough day. A friend of mine tried to take his own life and his partner called to let me know. Thankfully he’s ok but I worry one day he’s going to succeed-this isn’t the first time.

          He’s been dealing with mental illness for a long while and the older he gets the more unhappy he is, partly due to his condition and partly because he won’t let himself be happy. It’s a sad state of affairs.

          I hope your day was better.

          • vorpal 😼

            So, so sorry to hear about your friend :(.
            I have been in that dark place myself many times and have a couple serious attempts under my belt. Fortunately, this year has made me much stronger and seems to have cured me of the suicidal ideation that has been with me for much of my life.

            I hope your friend is able to find ways to be happy, but mental illness can be so difficult. I really respect people who manage to keep living day-by-day with it. Anxiety and ADHD are Crohn’s are bad enough for me, but I think mental illness is probably considerably harder to live with.

            He is lucky to have you as a friend. All the same, remember to take the time you need to recharge and care for yourself so that you can be the best FAEN you can be! It is easy to get overwhelmed by other people and their challenges.

            My day was really quite good on the whole. I actually slept for most of it (everyone here has been getting some annoying sickness, and I think I got a mild case of it but slept if off, largely) and had wild, frustrating, but funny in retrospect dreams. New friends that just moved down here who are having a difficult time came over in the evening for distractions through wine, conversation, and cat antics.

            Then hubby and I had some lovely bonding time, and now I am off to bed.

            Hopefully tomorrow will bring better things for you and your friend. I know I always look forward to mutually checking in with you and am very appreciative to have you here. =big purr hugs=

          • vorpal 😼

            =worried about you and your friend=
            How are you all holding up? Been thinking about you all day. I know these things don’t just resolve but I’m hoping you at least have a few moments of peace and comfort, my friend.

          • FAEN

            My sweet Vorpal, thank you so much for thinking of me. I meant to get back to you before I went to bed last night but I fell asleep with phone in hand.

            My friend is better n the sense that he’s talking and is out of the woods but aside from that he is very much in the same place. He isn’t dealing with anything and I know this new regime of drugs and therapy are nothing more than a band aid.

            I’m still a mix of empathy and anger-that’s all I can feel right now. His partner is putting on a brave face but isn’t fooling anyone. I’m just being there as much as I can and staying out of the way when it’s called for.

            I hope you’re having a good day. Thank you again for the sweet and thoughtful note. It put a smile on my face. I shall catch you later.

          • vorpal 😼

            =huge purring hug attack=
            Thanks for getting back to me! I really appreciate it.

            I’m glad to hear that your friend is at least stable for the present time. I hope that he is able to find and accept the help that he needs to get through this.

            My husband and a few of my closer friends can definitely relate with you on this: I know the emotional turmoil that they went through back in 2009 when I had my very serious suicide attempt.

            I’m happy to know that you’re staying out of the way and taking time for yourself through this difficult period!

            My day yesterday started off not too great… I think I finally managed to contract the illness that’s been running through the entire city. (It’s not serious – just a stomach bug with some fever and ickiness.)

            For that reason, I had to miss out of the Chilean Independence Day festivities and stayed home… but all was not wasted! I got very nostalgic and started thinking about how my brother and I have gotten busy and drifted apart over the years, and that inspired me to write him a message online. He responded with a really heartfelt message by saying that he had also been thinking that we don’t talk enough and we should really reconnect, especially so that hubby and I can play a more active role as the big gay uncles to his two daughters.

            So that was a delightful surprise and lovely gift for the day. I am usually not much of one for crying but I burst into happy tears and spent much of the evening crying and feeling grateful for how lucky I am in so many ways, especially due to the wonderful people I have in my life.

            Hope your day today is shaping up well! Everything here, I think, is still closed for Chilean Independence, so I think I will just stay in and make some yummy Thai food!

            Much love to you, dear, wonderful FAEN!

          • FAEN

            Sweet Vorpal-I hope you’re better. Fever with tummy issues is never fun. Stay hydrated.

            I’m so glad that you reconnected with your brother-it’s also wonderful being a Guncle isn’t it?

            I meant to ask yesterday-and only if you’re comfortable with it-do you have an email addy you could share? Let me know.

            Talk soon my friend.

            *love and hugs*

            FAEN

          • vorpal 😼

            Thanks, FAEN! My fuzzy tummy is almost back to normal. By tomorrow I think I should be back to my old mischievous self and back to regular levels of wreaking havoc!

            I really look forward to having enough experience as a guncle to know! My brother lives in Vancouver, so we seldom get the opportunity to see each other twice in the last years, so I’ve only met my older niece a handful of times and still have yet to meet my younger niece. I’m hoping this reconnection will give me a chance to spoil them a bit and get to know them better. My brother told me that he keeps reminding his older daughter that she has two uncles in South America, which I thought was really sweet of him.

            Yes! I absolutely am happy to share my email with you and was thinking to myself yesterday that this was something we should have talked about!

            This is the address I post online to avoid spam at my other accounts and that I use for website registrations, comment notifications, etc. If you write me here, I’ll write you back from one of my main accounts!
            vorpal20@hotmail.com

            Looking forward to hearing from you!
            =love, hugs, and then more love and a couple extra hugs=

          • FAEN

            Thank you sweet Vorpal-just emailed you 😊

  • Ragnar Lothbrok

    OT. Sorry,but I really can’t believe this shit. Uh, yes, I can.
    Reading this story is Fucking heart breaking.

    https://twitter.com/ShibleyTelhami/status/909362330038882307

    • William

      Now that Myanmar has a civilian government, the military can do what they want.

    • zhera

      I wonder how long the UN will sit still and watch this happen, while making resolutions and having debates. Rwanda and Syria are just two examples of how impotent the UN has become.

      • FAEN

        I agree. I’m not as educated on the UN as I should be but it seems when civilians are being tortured and killed the UN sits somewhat on the sidelines and says “STOP, or I’ll say stop again!”

        • zhera

          Yup. and in Libya there are people being jailed just for trying to migrate. Horrible, horrible conditions, with torture, rape, and murder.

  • Todd20036

    I’m betting some of the people who voted for Trump, who aren’t Nazis, are getting impatient with the manufacturing jobs not reappearing, the superior healthcare to Obamacare not crystalizing, the tax cuts on the middle class no where to be found, and the reduction in government spending given how much is being spent on Trump’s entourage.

    And Nazis don’t usually have the time or money to schlep to DC

    • Chucktech

      Those people you mention aren’t deplorables, they aren’t party-before-country traitors, they’re just stoopid people who thought Trump could (or would) actually deliver.

      • Todd20036

        Yup. That’s why even though Trump got 49% of the popular vote, his approval rating is around 34%.

        The idiots have had enough of him. The deplorable people still love him

        • Treant

          I’m still convinced that the number of Nazis is not 34%. Some of that is still stupid people who haven’t caught up. Some of that is people who will knee-jerk approve of a Republican regardless of circumstances, but don’t really go out of their way to oppress anybody due to laziness or disinclination.

          Trump’s floor is in the twenties, I would like to believe. Even the low twenties. But that would take time, coverage, and attention from the public. Plus personal impact.

          Crash the economy and that twenty-something will rapidly become true.

          • Todd20036

            Anyone who will vote for Twitler just because he’s a republican is deplorable in my book. If you are willing to vote for a rapist just because he’s a republican tells me you are too stupid to breathe.

          • Chucktech

            No, they’re the party-before-country traitors. They, Deplorables, and Stooopids are who voted for Trump.

          • Treant

            By definition. I’m still waiting to see how many votes magically appeared between the machines with no tracking software and no hard copy and the voting servers.

            Oh, wait, because that’s un-tracked, we’ll never know that.

          • Chucktech

            And what a fucking travesty THAT is.

          • (((GC)))

            Even if we had confidence that all votes were counted correctly, voter suppression such as Kris Kobach’s deliberately sloppy Crosscheck matching was enough to tip the balance.

            https://zcomm.org/znetarticle/the-election-was-stolen-heres-how/

            (And now Kobach and Pence lead the presidential commission on “election integrity”! This is unfortunately not a Poe, but reality.)

          • Nowhereman

            He’s not even a republican.

          • zhera

            Plenty of christians voted for tRump just because GOP calls itself the God Party. Abortion is very important to some, and they’d vote for the devil himself if he had anti-choice on his platform.

          • Gerry Fisher

            As someone I know said in justification for her vote, “…well, the stock market is doing *great*!”

          • greenmanTN

            But for how long? Right now Trump is still coasting on Obama’s economy. Social and political instability creates fear, which discourages investments because people don’t want to take risks.

          • Ken M

            Trump didn’t win. Hillary lost. I heard more “coffee shop” excuses NOT to for Hillary than I ever heard as excuses TO vote for Trump. This was w/o question one of the bitterest “lesser of 2 evils” elections this country ever suffered.

          • Todd20036

            Except every excuse to not vote for Hillary clinton was a trumped up RWNJ conspiracy theory the media gave credence to.

            Sorry, but Clinton was trying to swim upstream with a rock tied to her, while Trump was sunbathing on the shore.

          • Ken M

            You’re right. Sad as it is to say.

          • canoebum

            The right wing spent 25 years and untold millions to defeat her. And still they needed help from the Russians.

          • Oh, Parker

            Billions. Easy.

          • canoebum

            You’re probably right.

          • Nowhereman

            When she became the democratic nominee, she became the only candidate as far as I’m concerned. Voting for Trump because they don’t like Hillary is pretty stupid. I know people who didn’t vote for either–and their reason not to vote for Clinton was because she is for a woman’s right to control her own body. Normally they’d vote for the republican, but they could not vote for Trump.

          • FAEN

            My niece’s husband is anti Cheeto but voted for Johnson. I remind him every chance I get that he did in fact vote for Cheeto.

          • Gerry Fisher

            In terms of conventional wisdom, you are right. That being said, one of the evil choices wasn’t at all evil. She was just drawn that way. For 40 years.

          • greenmanTN

            Two factors are the GOP party over country die-hards and the fact that people don’t want to admit they were taken in by a carnival barker.

          • Skeptical_Inquirer

            So many of our problems would be solved if people didn’t get sucked into the sucken-costs fallacy where they think that since they put X amount of effort in, it’s a waste not to go further when it would be better if they cut their losses.

          • Skeptical_Inquirer

            I think a good chunk of the 34% is evangelicals who really want the Republic of Gilead. They’re the ones who is jonesing for a Pence presidency.

          • Gerry Fisher

            Perhaps one of the shrewdest decisions tRump made was to pick Pence for his running mate (and to let evangelicals “lay hands” on him, and promise them their judicial nominees).

          • Treant

            Quite probably, but I’m not sure if Pence survives post-Mueller either. 🙂

          • Gerry Fisher

            Not all deplorables are Nazis. Some are emotional infants who rage against any restraints on their impulsivity (“Freedom!”). Some are racist. Some are narcissists who are desperate for a scapegoat.

        • JWC

          I fully believe that there is a good deal of rumbling and muttering amonst the faithful 30% They are not the brightest but they are cathing on They are NOT the group to piss off

          • Gerry Fisher

            I think that’s why a good number of them still go to his campaign rallies. That was and is as good as it gets with him. It doesn’t get any better than emotional blood letting among your fellow mob members. (I still remember one deplorable complaining that the inauguration wasn’t as fun as the rallies. No, governing isn’t as “fun.”)

          • JWC

            Where these rallies are “fun” is when they see the dwindling numbers Remember these people are basically cowards and were drawn out by Trump. Now they are feeling abandoned Where do they go now, what do they do, Some might act most will go back to grumbling in the grey shadows

        • Nowhereman

          Every time someone burns a MAGA hat, an angel gets its wings! (Just kidding–I don’t actually believe in angels.)

      • canoebum

        That, and he wasn’t black or female. It’s not all that complicated.

        • Chucktech

          But if “black or female” kills it for you, that moves you into the deplorable column (not YOU, of course).

      • Nowhereman

        It drives me crazy if I let it. It’s not as if Donnie 2 Scoops didn’t show his true character up until now. I can only assume that anyone who still supports this man also agrees with him and how he talks and acts towards others.

        • clay

          You’re expecting stupid people to think, rather than just hope.

        • zhera

          I think a lot of people expected the party and the administration to ‘handle’ Donnie, to control him in every way. Pence as VP was a big factor, I suspect.

          • Nowhereman

            Like the song in The Sound of Music: “How do you solve a problem like the Donald”…

      • FAEN

        They went along with the RWBS even though some probably knew better. They don’t have a right to complain or a leg to stand on. The choice was clear who the qualified, intelligent, candidate was but they chose Cheeto who gave them no specifics aside from “trust me, it’s going to be great.”

        • Chucktech

          “I just don’t trust Hillary…” Jesus…

          • FAEN

            But they can’t independently tell you why.

    • Ragnar Lothbrok
    • FAEN

      They willingly went along with this snake oil salesman instead of voting for arguably the most qualified person ever to run for POTUS-I have no sympathy or empathy for them at all.

  • Acronym Jim

    To be fair, it WAS the “Woodstock of American Rallies.” Woodstock 1968 (or more accurately, a certain dairy farm in 1968).

    • Ken M

      Despite the dairy farm weather, which was horrible, the turnout, and the long term message, are in NO way comparable to this sad event.

      • Acronym Jim

        My point was that the Woodstock Festival took place in 1969.

        • Ken M

          lol…sorry, still not enough coffee…sorry : )

          • Acronym Jim

            No worries, sometimes I can be too subtle for my own good. Not to mention that there are idiots who would come to this thread and defend the rally in a-historic terms.

            I blame Poe’s Law.

          • DaddyRay

            Obviously they didn’t have covfefe back then

  • Stogiebear

    Five hundred people for a Dump pep rally? Jeez, you could probably get twice that many at a pep rally for Richard Nixon.

    • Acronym Jim

      Imagine how many you would get for a Dump Trump rally.

    • The_Wretched

      It’s not even a fraction of that Serbian Pride post’s crowd.

      • Chucktech

        Gawd, how pathetic when that’s the metric to compare the two.

        • Ken M

          You asked earlier when things were going to start changing. If you look at the size, and the breakdown, of this crowd, it may help in your answer. As with most news these day, the greatest amount of coverage is on Youtube.

    • Dale Snyder

      If I were close I would probably attend a Nixon rally. For all that was bad about him he did do a lot of good for the country he loved.

  • John Ruff
    • Hank

      He is as Crazy in politics as the “Jews for Jesus” group is in religion!!!
      Why he does not “get” that Her Drumpf and Co. are anti-semitic, white supremacists, I do not comprehend!!! HE will be the first on the trains, when they come to get us!

      • John Ruff

        I feel sorry for him. Clearly, he’s uninformed.

        • Hank

          Or he has a crush on Jared!!! Watch out, another Steve!!! You have competition!!

      • clay

        They’re worse than that if what Rachael and others were reporting on Friday is true– Flynn was trying to negotiate with the Russians to turn Saudi Arabia into a nuclear power.

        • Gianni

          What Rachel was reporting was about Flynn’s scheme with Russia to build nuclear power plants in Saudi Arabia, not bombs.

          • clay

            How do you think one gets plutonium for weapons?
            How do you think the Israeli military would respond to ANY reactors?

          • Gianni

            That fact hasn’t escaped me and in the future what you point out may come about. I was just stating the subject of Rachel’s reporting being about power plants.
            As far as the Israeli government or military – I don’t know.

          • clay

            You don’t know what Israel did when Iran, further away and not in declared war, got “just power plants”?

            Distinguishing between weapons and power plants is for splitting atoms, not meaningful physical-chemical difference, just ask the folks about half way between Kiev and Belarus.

          • Gianni

            I’m not disagreeing with you about that. What I stated about Rachel’s reporting is just want we call “a fact”. She was reporting about power plants NOT nuclear weapons. She was in no way surmising about any future plans of Saudi Arabia.

          • clay

            And what I wrote was is that fact was correct, it is a much bigger issue than being a Russian agent. It’s being a Russian agent in an act of nuclear proliferation.

          • Gianni

            Apparently, you have to be right in spite of a factual statement. OK – you’re absolutely, undeniable, incontrovertibly right. Better? I hope so because I won’t be wasting anymore time on this silliness.

          • Hank
        • William

          A nuclear power plant in Saudi Arabia would be a target for just about everyone in the region.

      • William

        The first time I heard of Jews for Jesus was in the movie ‘Airplane!’. I thought it was a joke.

        • marachne

          Clearly not living in California in the second half of the last cen6

          • William

            I lived in San Diego in the 70s. There were Hare Krishnas a-plenty.

          • marachne

            Ah, it started in SF, so maybe not so common that far south. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jews_for_Jesus

          • William

            There were some Moonies around SD, iirc.

    • greenmanTN
    • Friday

      “You’re not very bright, are you, sir? Didn’t you notice the freaking Nazis?”

    • clay

      Sad little boy has sad little signs.
      MOAR’s highest profile speaker was that guy from Hispanics for Trump.
      It’s doubly sad that they’re kapos even without prisoners to watch over.
      Reminds me of “I’ll be the victim!”

      • William

        He forgot his Moran sign.

  • Ragnar Lothbrok

    MOAR
    Mostly Online And Russian

    • Steverino

      MOAR is less.

  • JWC
  • SoCalGal20

    Apparently Dianne Feinstein said on one of the Sunday morning shows that the Senate Judiciary Committee will have Donald Trump Jr testifying in a public hearing under oath this fall.

    • Robincho

      What will Dianne learn from Uday”s “oath”? Only that he is capable of raising his right hand…

      • JWC

        Being a Trump do they know the meaning of a “lie” or when they have told one I really believe the concept is foreign to them

        • RJ Bone

          A lie, for them, is when they’re CAUGHT not telling the truth.

          • Gianni

            And that’s when they deny ever saying it. Problem solved (in their minds).

      • SoCalGal20

        I’m just lookibg forward to Al Fanken’s summary of Trump Jr’s lies and then asking him pointed questions about them. 🙂

    • Skeptical_Inquirer

      Oh, darn, I thought you were talking about the father for a second.

  • Highmoremotel

    These post Chalottsville rallies don’t get the crowds they used to.

  • greenmanTN
    • No, that would be the last however many NOM rallies.

  • IAMBOWLINGGREEN

    500 at a Trump hate rally. Still 490 more people than a NOM hate rally.

    • clay

      Give it time. NOM used to get 500. Considering how quickly Trump’s numbers are falling, I expect he’ll be down to Phelps family numbers come time for sentencing.

    • zhera

      Bri Bri is so jelly!

  • Ragnar Lothbrok
    • HomerTh

      Made me laugh

    • clay

      old paranoid white people protecting “their” lawn.

    • Acronym Jim

      “Ethel! Ralph! Spread out to make our crowd look bigger!”

    • William

      That fence needs to be taller, and topped with razor wire.

    • David Raymore

      Is this the Republican petting zoo? People can point and say “Look at the morons who support Trump.” They can feed them terrible food and laugh at them.
      This rally was a joke and pitiful. I think Brian Brown had a bigger rally than these jackass’s.

      • djcoastermark

        Problem is, a petting zoo is filled with cute little creatures everyone wants to pet and take home. I see nothing of the sort here in this “crowd”.

  • Christopher

    1,500 Juggalos!

    The D.C. Meth dealers must’ve made a fortune. Or the Juggs brought their own to sell.

  • Todd Allis
  • Jeffg166

    One true American trump supporter equals ten thousand non supports. That makes half a million there.

    • clay

      We ain’t on Bear Island, snowflake, and Trump ain’t Jon Snow.

    • ECarpenter

      According to the nut-case right, “True” Americans are only about 15% of the American population. Oddly enough, that’s the percentage of nut-case right wingers.

      We Real Americans have only contempt for you “True” Americans.

    • Man_in_the_mists

      Guys, I’m pretty sure Jeff wasn’t serious here.

  • halfwaythere

    I was feeling fairly good about the Juggalos until I noticed that in about a third of the pix I saw of them people were throwing the white power hand gesture.

    • jmax

      Now that you mention it, I’ve never seen a black juggalo.

  • Nowhereman

    So it’s true what they say–MOAR is less.

  • UrsusArctos

    Awww. I’m genuinely sorry about this. I thought “Mother” Pence’s handbag of deplorables would have been larger. /snark

  • LovesIrony

    We all know what American culture they want to protect and its not our music,film, dramas,fashion and the diversity of our people

    • clay

      Not even our spectator sports!

  • anne marie in philly

    HA HA (said in a nelson muntz voice)! and that does NOT look like 500 people; perhaps 150 if that. nobody gives a fat flying fuck about the dump! HA HA!

    • William

      That’s what happens when 100 Russian bots RSVP 100,000 times.

  • juanjo54

    We;; the organizers should have waited until after their supporter’s disability checks came from the government. By mid-month that money is all gone.

  • fuzzybits

    I’ve met a handful of Juggalos and they treated me alright.

    • John Ruff

      They’re good people who’ve been incorrectly labeled as a danger to the public. I hope they win their battle.

      • William

        But the look scary, so they must be scary!

  • greenmanTN

    Was their mother prescribed thalidomide?

  • Judas Peckerwood

    Mother of All Rallies — Or Not (MOARON)

    • William

      You win!

  • Sporkfighter

    Pick any day during spring break, and you’ll find ten times that many eighth graders wandering around the mall.

  • Zellaby

    How can we connect with these idiots & tell them what a waste of space they are?

  • justme

    and on FAUX News..”tens of thousands showed up for this…”

    • Ann Kah

      I hope there was aerial photography of all the respective crowds. Surely some kid with a drone could give us a more accurate head count.

    • Snarkaholic

      Tens of thousands? Are they also counting the (handful of) attendees’ pubic lice?

  • kareemachan

    Well, that’s gonna smart with drumpster.

    • djcoastermark

      Let’s hope he sees the real images of the crowd.

  • Jean-Marc in Canada
  • Octoberfurst

    No doubt Trump will look at this crowd and claim that 5 million people showed up. “It was the biggest turn-out in history folks! Trust me! No one ever had that many people show up.” And of course the Trumpanzees will believe Trump over their lying eyes & brag about the crowd size on Breitbart.

  • David Lightfoot

    They should have asked NOM to participate. They would have easily added another 12 people to MOAR.

    • edrex

      and the one million mom could up it to13.

    • KnownDonorDad

      The “NOM MOAR” march. I like it.

  • KnownDonorDad
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  • Gtales

    I walked by their rally…it was quite small. I don’t even think there were 500 people there. I walked by as they repeated their tired trope of “liberals are lazy, don’t work and hate everything.” This liberal was in town for a work conference.