WASHINGTON: Vatican Recalls Diplomat Priest, Refuses To Lift Immunity On Child Porn Possession Charges

The Associated Press reports:

A high-ranking priest working in the Vatican’s embassy in Washington has been recalled after U.S. prosecutors asked for him to be charged there and face trial in a child pornography investigation, Vatican and U.S. officials said Friday.

The diplomat was suspected of possessing, but not producing or disseminating, child pornography including images of pre-pubescent children, a U.S. source familiar with the case said. The source was not authorized to discuss the matter publicly and spoke on condition of anonymity.

The Vatican declined to identify the priest, but said he was currently in Vatican City and that Vatican prosecutors had launched their own probe and sought evidence from the U.S. A U.S. official familiar with the case said the priest was a senior member of the Vatican embassy staff. The Vatican yearbook lists three counselors who work under the nuncio, or ambassador.

More from The Guardian:

The US state department notified the Holy See last month of a possible violation of laws. American prosecutors said they wanted the Vatican to voluntarily lift the official’s diplomatic immunity so that he could face charges, according to several reports, but the Vatican refused. The request was made on 21 August.

The Vatican said an investigation had been opened and the church was seeking “international collaboration to obtain elements relative to the case”, and it would be handled confidentially on a preliminary basis. It said the priest had already returned to Vatican City. The Vatican said its decision to recall the priest was in line with normal diplomatic practices.

  • bkmn

    So the RCC is back to circling their wagons when kids are abused.

    • Tawreos

      When did they ever stop?

      • Todd20036

        Half past never.
        It’s also why Dolan will never get NYC to ever change the colors of the Empire State building due to some catholic Holy Fuckaday

    • crookedstr8

      I always thought the actions on this matter by the Catholic church was deplorable, and I still do. However, I understood it a bit better after I lived in Spain. The age of consent in Spain was 14, at the time. It was lower in other European countries. They honestly don’t regard this like we do. It’s a CULTURAL difference.

      • Joseph Miceli

        Well, in some cultures it’s okay to remove a female’s external genitalia with a sharpened shell and no anesthetic. Some cultures ARE superior to others.

      • Randy Ellicott

        Molestation is not OK in Europe, it is not culturally acceptable to use your power to coerce young children (UNDER 14 years old) to service you sexually and then blame the kids for their own actions. Europe is much more sex positive than America for sure, they have a much more lax attitude towards human sexuality than we do, but they tend to be fine with healthy sexuality not exploitative.

        • crookedstr8

          And, I’m sure you’ve lived there like I have and know all about it….Go on and rave. You’re full of shit

          • Randy Ellicott

            15 years but go on and tell me how people in Europe are ok with child molsetation? I am assuming you are ignoring the huge cases that have been brought against the Church in european countries too right?

      • zhera

        No, this is not about different cultures in different countries. This is about institutional organized abuse of helpless victims.

      • vorpal 😼

        If these ass-hats are going to exploit their diplomatic immunity to wantonly break the laws of countries they’re in, perhaps we should just ban the kiddy fuckers altogether.

        This isn’t just a cultural difference about age of consent, either: these priests are in a position of power and authority over their victims, which very few if any civilized societies consider acceptable.

    • Nic Peterson

      Essentially saying, ‘this man has diplomatic immunity, knows where the bodies are buried and we can not allow him to sing for your brand of immunity.’

    • The_Wretched

      They never stopped. There were a few tokens along the way for PR but that’s it.

    • Dave B

      Don’t you know how this works?……..When this shit goes down or something similar, the response is always….”Now is not the time to talk about child abuse out of respect for the children”

    • LovesIrony

      Except they never stopped

  • WitlessProtection

    So they are STILL covering up this shit?

    • Todd20036

      Yup. Shocked?

      • WitlessProtection

        Unfortunately – not really…

  • Tawreos

    Pope Franky keeps trying to sound reasonable and forward thinking and still lets shit like this happen.

    • Todd20036

      Which is why no one is impressed with Pope Goodwords.
      When it’s time to put up or shut up, he merely shuts up.

  • Uncle Mark

    “Suffer the little children” indeed.

    • Adam King

      “…to come unto me.” Ick.

  • Christopher
  • IAMBOWLINGGREEN
  • bambinoitaliano
    • Todd20036

      That. Is. Gross.

  • JWC

    My goodness Callista Gingrich may actually have to work Was she aware that would happen

  • Christopher
  • bambinoitaliano
  • People4Humanity
    • Todd20036

      Yeah, we knew this. And no, we aren’t surprised.
      Just disappointed that the DoJ thinks LBGTs are second class citizens.
      Jews were once thought the same way… in Germany

      • JWC

        Gays in Germany were right in the mix to Not surprising the DOJ did it Now the nasty Gays just have to put him out of business with negative press and acts of civil diobedience Never make a Gay man put his purse down

        • Todd20036

          I’ve made a few men put their purses down… but for a different reason

          • JWC

            heheh I can wel imagine they needed both hands

  • Halou

    Recalled to Vatican City, no doubt he’ll be reassigned to a country that doesn’t have an extradition treaty with the US.

  • james1200

    Maybe they should rethink how they train priests at the Vatican?

    https://gifcrap.com/g2data/albums/Misc/Priest%20training.gif

  • Bluto
  • bambinoitaliano
    • Snarkaholic

      That kid’s eyes speak volumes.

  • Christopher
    • JCF

      Coerced abstinence.

      • Sporkfighter

        They aren’t coerced into becoming or remaining priests.

        • JCF

          If one discerns a call to the priesthood—stay w/ me here—but are compelled to (ostensibly) profess abstinence in order to follow that call, then *to me* that’s coercion.

          • Sporkfighter

            In one feels the call of God as well as the call of little boys and girls, God must have called a pedophile.

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      • Mike Knife

        Why don’t they let the priest get married?

    • Smokey

      A study found that priests who abused children (and adults) had problems even before they entered the priesthood whereas priests who had non-abusive sexual relationships with adults usually did so out of loneliness years after they were ordained.

      • ColdCountry

        It has always been my opinion, and my opinion only, that probably a percentage of the pedophile and gay priests feel that the feelings they experience is sinful and join the church to pray it away. While one is actually sinful, the other, of course, is not. And we know how well that prayer thing works in either case.

        • Smokey

          Exactly. And despite the disdain we heap (justifiably) on them bishops treated these pedophilia issues as moral failings, not intractable psychological problems which they also compounded by a belief that ordination rendered a priest somehow above mere mortals. I’m not absolving them, merely pointing out their flawed thinking.

    • Jim Boyd

      tax the church

  • PickyPecker
  • Halou

    Will we have a complete and total shutdown of all Catholics coming into the country until we can figure out what is going on?

  • Frostbite

    Same shitheads, different day.

  • People4Humanity

    Lawyer Who Lost 1995 Gay Rights Case Says Justice Department’s Reliance in ‘Masterpiece Cake’ Is Misplaced
    Q&A: John Ward on the case, the argument and the outcome. (paywall)

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    • The_Wretched

      Bush the Lesser admin trotted out Koromatsu in defense of Guantanimo and black sites.

  • zhera

    I thought that the Poop had changed their policy on protecting the abusers. At least that’s what they’ve been saying. So what’s it gonna be, Franny?

    I bet the priest in question has some delicious dirt on others in the Vatican, high up. It’s called insurance…

  • JCF

    OT: can we get a thread on this? We all the looming Constitutional crises hanging over Drumpf, this may just be the FIRST to go critical!

    Despite Court Order, DHS Releases Only Partial List of Mar-a-Lago Visitors

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    • Halou

      The Government Ethics Watchdog says is is not interested in pursuing ethics violations, now the DHS says that “information is not subject to freedom of information requests.”
      With this level of mental gymnastics it wont be long before “one person, one vote” is twisted to mean Donald Trump is the one person and he alone has the one vote. The rest of the US population will just have to get over it.

  • Christopher
    • Stogiebear

      No Timmie, he got whisked off to Rome under diplomatic immunity.

  • Ragnar Lothbrok
    • narutomania

      I would make a small word change:

      Can sometimes be comforting to people of lower intelligence when explaining life and death.

  • Ninja0980

    And this is why ANYONE from the church etc. needs to shut the fuck up about why same sex marriage should be illegal because of the children.
    They don’t give a shit about the safety and well being of children, only about power and money.

  • bambinoitaliano

    Many of us joint a gym or fitness center to keep our body and mind healthy. If the owners and employees of these places were caught operating a pedophilia ring, we will all be leaving the said premises for good. Why are they still over a billion Catholics out there?

  • Gustav2

    Shocking…

  • Adam King

    Recognizing the Vatican as a state and giving its representatives diplomatic status, in my opinion, violates the First Amendment.

  • kelven

    Once again underscoring how they have no moral authority whatsoever.

  • EdmondWherever

    What is it with these creeps and kids? What’s so sexually alluring about children? As a member of a minority which is constantly accused of leading the world in pedophilia, I just don’t get it. Kids are noisy, smelly, and incapable of deep or interesting conversation. Give me a man, with muscles, and body hair, and fascinating opinions on mature subjects. Why wouldn’t a fully-developed adult be far more enticing than some snotty third-grader?

    • Lars Littlefield

      Priests tend to suffer from arrested development more than most folks?

      • OdieDenCO

        brain damage is next to godliness

    • PickyPecker

      Children are easier prey to coerce into sexual acts for someone seen as an ‘authority’ figure to be trusted.

      Adult men, one has to work at it (sometimes). And being a priest…..homo is no-no anyway.

      • EdmondWherever

        Sure, but… why? My coffee table is easier prey to hunt than an elk, but that doesn’t make it delicious.

        • Adam King

          You need to marinate its legs in sherry for a few weeks.

          • EdmondWherever

            Can I just mount them on the wall, and drink the sherry?

          • Adam King

            Or that.

    • kelven

      Take one incredibly sexually repressed organization and put a bunch of young, innocent children in their power. Recipe for disaster from the word go.

    • Adam King

      Men, too, can be noisy, smelly and incapable of deep or interesting conversation. Not necessarily a deal-breaker. 😉

    • Natty Enquirer

      I doubt the majority are pedophiles but rather hebephiles. That is, they are attracted to pubescents and near post-pubescents. Think more 10th grade then third grade.

      • Treant

        Still. Have you heard almost all 10th graders open their mouths? “Buffy, like, I totally blew my geometry test. Let’s go shopping anyway!

        No. Thank. You.

      • EdmondWherever

        I mean… that makes a little more sense. I’ve seen some 16 and 17 year olds who have…. made me feel bad about myself. 😉

    • Leo Tallant

      Hell, I like ’em “young, dumb and full of cum” but at MY age young is somewhere around 35 to 40 LOL.

    • fkevin

      Very recent Guardian article partially addresses your question: Catholic sexual abuse partly caused by secrecy and mandatory celibacy, report finds

      https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/sep/13/catholic-sexual-abuse-partly-caused-by-celibacy-and-secrecy-report-finds

      Captain Obvious & Noshit Sherlock will be face slapping people in the lobby.

    • CottonBlimp

      They’re not looking for equal partners to love and grow old with. They’re looking to prey on the weak. If instead of altar boys they had mentally handicapped old women, they’d molest them instead. They all used to just rape the infantilized women in nunneries, but then that got harder to get away with, so they went after kids they could threaten into keeping quiet.

      • EdmondWherever

        Blech.

  • Stogiebear

    Reagan should never have recognized Vatican City as an independent nation. That is no different than would be recognizing Istanbul, Mecca, or Indianapolis as independent nations. It’s not only time to tax the Roman church it’s time to revoke its status as a sovereign state.

    • Girlgoon

      Can we get rid of Texas by recognizing them as a nation ?

    • Ivan T. Errible

      “the Roman church’?
      A gay Anglo-Catholic by any chance?

  • Natty Enquirer

    Sham state.

  • Travis Morrow

    Remember that Cool Pope™ is part of this child fucker cover up group.

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    • wmforr

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      • Blake J Butler

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      • greenmanTN

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  • cheakamus

    Can someone tell me why we even have an “embassy” for the Vatican “City”?

    • Girlgoon

      Cause the shit they do would be illegal in every other nation, this way they are untouchable

    • AC

      So that when a decent Pope comes along, he can visit it and invite his gay friend and his gay friend’s husband to come visit him there. That is sufficient for me, and I am so glad that Francis had the venue.

      • Ivan T. Errible

        He couldn’t do that if he just owned a large house?
        He needs a flag and an ambassador and diplomatic immunity to have friends over?

        • AC

          Context is everything. Consider considering the gray; it’s where everything happens.

          • Ivan T. Errible

            I am. But this is just a waste of money. And it validates one religion over all others.

    • wmforr

      Because it is legally a country.

      • Ivan T. Errible

        Really-then why did it take us until after the mid-1970s to recognize it?
        “Progressives” would have had a fit if we’d wasted taxpayer money on a religiously-based country in any other time in US history.

        • AC

          Good lord, lying won’t get you or us anywhere. The US first established diplomatic relations with the Holy See in 1797. Yes, relations consisted primarily of occasional envoys for a the century up until 1984. There is nothing unique about a changing diplomatic landscape with another sovereign, it happens regularly (for exceedingly easy reference see Japan, Germany, Iran, Cuba, and on and on). Even diplomatic relationships, ebb and flow. This is not unique to the Holy See.

          The rest go the comment wallows in an idiocy that it is not worth addressing.

          • Ivan T. Errible

            You’ve blithely skipped over the main point: why deal with a postage-sized chunk of a legal fiction emanating from a religion, one that hides people who hid the crimes of child molesters?
            Or reverse the question: What American vital interest would be lost by refusing to appoint an ambassador to the “Holy” See? If we want to talk to the pope, we can send a letter.

          • AC

            For sure, the Church seems to be especially repellant with the molestations. I have often told my father – much to his chagrin and upset, as a believer and a deacon: “I have never met a straight priest, including the parish priests that diddled me as a child, and the Jesuits that diddled me as a college student.” So, I think I have some understanding of your anger, and agree on that point absolutely. But it seems to have control over you, leading to the earlier and continuing wallowing, which remains unworthy of address, blithely or not.

          • Ivan T. Errible

            There’s no “control”; I’m not even Catholic-and never was. I just enjoy the circus from a safe distance and try to laugh at as many idiots who still take any of it seriously.
            The “anger” is the result of having to listen to people claim that this institution should be listened to, on any subject, by anyone.

    • Michael White

      When Rome fell and the Vatican was the only government diplomatic immunity started with business from the pope to bishops. As governments developed throughout Europe the custom continued.

      • AC

        As Alexis Morell Carrington Colby Dexter Rowan said to her son: “Steven, your grammar is becoming as messy as your sex life.”

        Even correcting for the truly unique understanding of history (e.g. The fall of Rome; diplomatic immunity), it is impossible to make out a cogent thought in that comment.

  • BudClark

    Sickening!

  • wmforr

    Same old, same old. Freedom of religion means priests can commit felonies, and police will let the Church “deal with it” by transferring them to another venue to continue committing felonies.

  • Macbill

    Perhaps they’ll send him to Africa to prey.

  • RoverSerton

    I don’t know why but Tim Minchin’s Pope song is going thru my mind.
    https://youtu.be/vjJ_b8isMzc

  • Richard B

    Catholic Church is covering up for yet another one of their pervy priests .
    Has anyone notice how hypocritical it is for uptight Catholic Church who endlessly demonize gay people (deflection), while seemingly to attract more sexual perverts and sexual predators to their group than are found in the overall general population?
    Why is that?

  • S. Tyler Hoffman

    I am relentless when any of my progressive friends voice their support for the current Pope. I like that he’s a progressive force with major influence across the world… but I’d spit in his face or any of the other child rapist protectors masquerading as religious leaders if I ever had the chance. Disgusting…

    • Natty Enquirer

      Talking progressive isn’t the same thing as being progressive. Francis may be full of benevolent soundbites but he hasn’t budged church doctrine one inch. You’re still going to hell if you have sex with a condom.

      • grada3784

        He talks out of both faces.

    • Ben in Oakland

      He’s better than the last two, but the bar is pretty low.

    • Ivan T. Errible

      So you don’t mind poison if it’s used in a way that you approve of?
      Hypocrite.

      • S. Tyler Hoffman

        Ivan, try reading my comment next time.

  • DoctorDJ

    And there’s the latest “Oh, those heathens are insulting our Mother Church with their godless Hollywood movies.”
    http://www.nationalreview.com/article/451338/jennifer-lawrence-mother-sickest-movie-ever-made-disgusting-torture-porn Can’t wait to see it!

    • grada3784

      Come here, little boy. Uncle Palpatine wants you.

  • Babaloo

    So if all Muslims are terrorists, are all Catholics pedophiles?

  • Readen Reply

    There should be no diplomatic immunity for sex crimes and murder.

  • rednekokie

    Of course it is “normal” for them — they always protect child molesting priests.

  • grada3784

    When, oh when is the Vatican going to stop using itself as a punching bag?

    It wasn’t a 3rd rate burglary that drove Nixon from office; it was the cover-up.

  • fuzzybits

    The sooner this cult is brought down the better.

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  • Mike Knife

    The pedophile cult of greed continues to destroy the lives of children.

  • EFREN VARGAS, M.D.

    THE CATHOLIC CHURCH OPPOSED ABORTION BECAUSE THEY PRACTICE PEDOPHILIA.