RUSSIA: Duma Member Boasts On Chat Show About Russian Spies Stealing The United States Presidency

The Hill reports:

On a Sunday panel show, a Russian politician said U.S. “intelligence missed it when Russian intelligence stole the president of the United States.” Vyacheslav Nikonov, a member of the Russian parliamentary body, the Duma, made the remarks on the panel show “Sunday Evening with Vladimir Solovyov.”

Though the U.S. intelligence community has unequivocally stated that Russian intelligence agencies hacked the Democratic National Committee and other political targets during the 2016 presidential campaign, Russian President Vladimir Putin has roundly denied the claim.

  • another_steve

    Life in 2017 America is like an episode of Rod Serling’s The Twilight Zone.

    Surreal, and scary.

  • AtticusP

    I only wish that they WOULD steal the President of the United States.

    Language, grammar and syntax matter. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/087b152dfcc9288dad8f2b8dd9d05a4d079c7576ffa18dea7cd3102cbda2d0b0.png

    • another_steve

      Ohmigod, tell me that’s photoshop.

      Please.

      • AtticusP

        I would rather think of him as an unwitting ally…

      • The_Wretched

        I would say it is shopped from the ghost speckles around the letters … but the whole thing is low rez so you can’t really say. Which is why shoppers will use or make the image lower rez etc.

        • Adam King

          The o in “to” in the photoshopped sign is a clone of the o in “those.”

      • Tread
        • AtticusP

          Imagine a world without Photoshop.

          A lot of us grew up in one.

          And I think we are a lot better off for it.

          • Bad Tom
          • William
          • Bad Tom

            Oh, yeah! If you became an unperson, you were erased from history.

            The actual, real, memory hole.
            ——-
            They did a good job on the waves.

          • wds

            In ’46 a book was published on how to “retouch” photos … LOL
            https://creativepro.com/scanning-around-with-gene-the-old-way-of-photo-retouching/

          • AtticusP

            You’re right, of course. It’s the Internet that I should blame.

          • Bad Tom

            Photoshop has democratized the ability to fake photos. What a lot of people don’t know is that editing images with PS or other editors leaves traces.

            It’s much harder to fabricate a camera RAW file which has all appropriate metadata flags for an untouched image. Even tools like Lightroom can mess with the metadata of a RAW image, indicating that a change has been made.

            Of course, publishing a RAW image means no changes at all. No cropping, no color balance or contrast / exposure changes. The image is perfect as shot.

            This is hard if one is a working photographer, and the picture has some purpose it must achieve. Or conditions in the field may require post processing, especially in the news industry, where you may only have available light.

          • The problem is that retouching because too easy and too common. About 20 years ago I was working for a travel magazine when there was a brief scandal when a regular person’s photos were retouched on the cover of Newsweek (maybe Time?). They whitened her teeth and removed some blemishes. The kinds of things they’d do for actors and politicians. Only they did it for a regular person in something that was a hard news story. The guys who did the photo editing at the magazine told me that they are constantly removing dog poop and litter from photos of cities and things like that. It’s just something that people do. Or blurring signs that might be distracting from the central focus of the photo. Not exactly a hoax but not exactly honest either in many cases. But this has been standard since photoshop and probably was done by airbrushing long before that.

          • wds

            In 1946 the biggest news was Teddy riding a moose in water … totally fake, of course, but people believed it for quite awhile…”I saw it in the paper” … https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/2efc5d3bcd19d5904597659b3cbcfef32052569b52a38e282d7902ba243525a4.jpg

          • Snarkaholic
        • Robincho

          Oh. Behead. I thought he was trying for Give Heed…

    • Paris

      okaaaaay, i’m willing.
      now what?

    • SammySeattle

      How’s your head?

      • AtticusP

        ???

      • Bad Tom

        I’m feeding mine right this moment.

        • OdieDenCO

          one pill makes you larger and one pill makes you small…

          • Bad Tom

            And the ones that mother gives you
            Don’t do anything at all

      • Scott MB

        Fabulous, haven’t had any complaints.

      • Adam King

        My sinuses have been a little full, and then there’s the male-pattern baldness just starting….

        • another_steve

          In the dark, all men are sexy.

          • m_lp_ql_m

            In the all, dark men are sexy.

        • Bad Tom

          There are meds for the former, and I like a razor for the latter.
          ——-
          I vowed I would never adopt my father’s solution: the comb-over.

          • Adam King
          • another_steve

            Head shape determines which men look particularly fabulous bald.

            That said, all bald heads are beautiful.

          • Bad Tom

            I have a nicely shaped skull. Ergo, I look good bald.

            Despite the fact that I was dropped on my head when I was a baby. Apparently, I squirmed too much during one fateful bath.

            That fact is my all-purpose excuse for anything that is my fault in my life: I’m sorry. What can you expect? I was dropped on my head when I was a baby.

            Works like a fucking charm.

          • another_steve

            Sincerity is important, Tom.

            I have this odd birthmark on the back of my neck. Approximately 2″ square. So I went to the dermatologist, who looked at it and suggested it might be the result of some birth trauma I suffered as I was being dragged out of my mother. Maybe forceps-related or something.

            Now isn’t that special?

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8c4d601c7cb665ded031bc0bbb4ab9bbaf80dfb22ea1f08cbdb0e97ef6487615.jpg

      • kelven
        • SammySeattle

          Thank you, thank you. We’ll be here all week.

        • Acronym Jim

          I like the marquee too.

          “MATINEE”
          “Wild Adventure”
          “How to ______uck”

          • -M-

            It’s a very entertaining movie. 👍👍

          • kelven

            The very next scene she ends up slapping an “E” into the blank space, which of course looks like an F because of the way she’s holding it. Pearl clutching and fainting ensue. One of my favorite screwball comedies.

      • misterjack

        Haven’t had any complaints. Arr Arr Arr!

      • Danieruw
      • Man_in_the_mists

        Well, I’ve never had any complaints…

    • Bad Tom

      Perhaps Anonymous has perpetrated an excellent hack against Google Translate.

    • Nic Peterson
    • Manny Espinola

      Ok, but wash it first

  • Adam Stevens

    Their mocking of us is well earned.

    The richest nation in the world can’t protect itself from a nation of people who pray to one day be able to afford a potato?

    • Tomcat

      The Russian people are not our enemies,,, in fact we both have the same enemies.

      • Tatonka

        Hmmm. Not sure I agree with you there, TC. Fucking with our democratic process and saddling us with Donald Trump as president does kind of seem something an enemy would do.

      • Adam Stevens

        really? seriously??

        I’ve spent more than a bit of time there. They fucking hate us and want us dead.

        • ultragreen

          Most of the world hates us, not just Russians. Ponder that.

          • m_lp_ql_m

            Most of the world hates us, including us.

      • Adam King

        Speak for yourself. That pack of slavering Christianist vodka-besotted homophobes are my enemies.

      • pch1013

        80% of them support Putin. So fuck them.

    • tbj5

      It’s because of the rich that we ended up with a population that hates knowledge and was easy to trick.

  • Henry Auvil

    I never miss an episode of “Sunday Evening with Vladimir Solovyov.”, and let me tell you, I was floored.

  • crewman

    It must be hard when you’re torn between wanting to deny responsibility for a crime to avoid being held accountable and wanting to brag about it because of how superior you feel for pulling it off.

    • ColdCountry

      They need to watch “The Sting.”
      “You have to keep this con even after you take his money. He can’t know you took him”

      • Rambie

        Yet they’re getting away with it even after bragging about it.

        • ColdCountry

          That remains to be seen, I think. After all, it also exposes them on the world stage. As for here, I think this just might help Mueller.

    • Bad Tom

      For non-state actor criminals, that is often how they get caught. They can’t resist bragging at a some dive bar sooner or later.

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    • Ranger One

      It only shows how crude and classless Russia is.

    • How many crimes are solved because someone involved bragged about getting away with it?

      Also, he’s not in danger of prosecution for this in Russia.

  • Tatonka

    Oh yeah! Well … … …

    Shit. I got nothing.

  • Halou

    And they wonder why they are having such a hard time being liked by other nations.

  • zhera

    Speaking of elections, the Norwegian election today seems to be decided. Rightwing won the most mandates to the parliament.

    It’s yet to be seen if they (4 parties in total) can agree on a coalition, but I’m guessing they will.

    Fuck. fuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuck

    • TimCA

      I know little of nothing about Norwegian politics but I’d be willing to bet a million Krones that our American right wing nuts have your right wing nuts beat in almost every way from religious extremism, bellicosity and sheer insanity.
      😉

      • zhera

        Oh, definitely! There are still sane people on the right side of Norwegian politics. Greedy, selfish, short-sighted, yes; but still sane. Some of them are batshit crazy though, and I sincerely hope that they’ll be kicked out now. There are people in Norway who totally dig the Orange one, and wants to do everything the same here.

        Thing about politics in Norway (and maybe all of Europe?) is that the right-wing has two large/large-ish parties, one populistic and one conservative. the populistic one is called liberal here, because we have a REAL left-wing, with labor party (more center these days though) and socialistic parties.

        And the biggest christian party? Well that’s a centrist party here!

        Anyways, enough of that. I think the right-wing won because of one thing: Racism. Immigration, particularly from Syria and Libya, has been a big issue here. I hate it so much. We are so goddam rich in this country, yet when it comes to helping those in need the bigots will whine about healthcare for REAL Norwegians and Senior Care. All while cutting the taxes for the rich.

        4 years ago, when the right-wing coalition first began, they did a huge reform in social and health benefits. It caused me to lose ca 2000-3000 NOK per month.

        Fuck them.

        • Todd20036

          I’m also willing to bet our RWNJs would literally eat your RWNJs if they were all on a deserted island with a keg a BBQ sauce.

      • Robincho

        And those are the GOOD points…

    • Bad Tom

      Approximately how I felt the morning Trump was elected.
      ——-
      I was not alone. You aren’t either.

      • zhera

        Thank you, Tom. Misery loves company, right?

        I did have a bad feeling about this election.

  • safari

    Release the piss tapes

    • another_steve

      But after my dinner, thank you.

    • AtticusP

      AND the Kraken!

      • safari

        Those are his pegging tapes

        • RJ Bone

          No! I REFUSE, RE FUSE, to see good tentacle hentai defiled by associations with Drumpf’s Nether Regions.

      • Gerry Fisher

        Every party needs more Kraken.

    • Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild

      drip drip drip drip drip maybe literally

      http://www.simpsonsworld.com/video/312288835929

  • The_Wretched

    Is that the same brand of microphone that Jim Bakker uses?

  • Andymac3

    Mr Nikonov, Mr Putin would like to see you at the back door in 10 minutes, he asks that you bring all your belongings with you as you may be gone for some time.

    • another_steve

      Also, Mr. Nikonov, lean out of this window and admire the lovely view.

      • yes b’y
        • Steverino

          The only tea that glows in the dark.

        • Robincho

          “To thine own self be…aaaaacckkkk!” — Polonium

          • Treant

            “I am the alpha and the…well, the alpha’s dangerous enough.” –Polonium-210

          • whollyfool

            Nice 😀

        • Treant

          I’ve never done the research on Po-210 before. That’s some scary shit:

          “A fatal 4.5 Sv dose can be caused by ingesting 8.8 MBq (240 µCi), about 50 nanograms (ng), or inhaling 1.8 MBq (49 µCi), about 10 ng.”

          ng being nanogram, of course. Billionths of a gram. A poppy seed weighs 300,000 ng. An average human cell or a birch pollen has a weight of 1 ng.

          • Bad Tom

            So tiny a dose that safe handling is a real hassle for the assassins.

          • yes b’y

            stay away from the po po platter

          • -M-

            I like the part where the alpha emissions are enough to kick clusters of polonium atoms into the air.👻
            ☠️☕️🌬👀

          • Treant

            Yeah, that’s some recoil!

        • -M-

          Self-heating blend.

      • Andymac3

        Please land in new dumpster provided, Mr Putin insisted you be provided with a fresh one.

      • Bad Tom

        It doesn’t matter if you don’t want to! We have goons to help.

  • Steverino

    On 11/9 last year, the United States became Duma’d.

    • safari

      It’s a Lynchian 9/11

  • Lars Littlefield

    Steve Bannon says this is a lie. Russia is a lie. That’s what Steve Bannon says. And he’s a bulldog. So, he must be right and the Russians are wrong.

  • Tomcat

    OT: MSNBC needs to stop showing those bright red rain bands in Georgia and Tennessee. It has been sprinkling and little to no wind and the other channels are no longer showing bright red bands in those areas. So if you want to be fake news keep doing it MSNBC.

    • Daveed_WOW

      GO back to Brietbart. They miss you.

      • Tomcat

        Fuck you!

    • -M-

      Windy and rain here.

  • OdieDenCO

    one dead russian duma member coming up

  • RJ Bone

    Anyone else think of this guy when they say “Russian Intelligence?”

    https://youtu.be/mIq9jFdEfZo

  • Adam King

    The problem isn’t that anyone missed it, it’s that we have no mechanism for dealing with it. The Constitution couldn’t anticipate the nature of modern communications and their intersection with modern plutocratic politics. So we’re stuck.

    • billbear1961

      No, we are not–we are NOT, Adam. It drives me MAD–to the verge of enraged DESPAIR–to hear people say this!!

      We don’t have to accept a stolen election, governance at the hands of gangsters, at the hands of a racist dictator who is undermining the RULE OF LAW!!

      In fact, it is a grossly IMMORAL act to accept it!! It is cowardice and EVIL to accept it!!

      Massive and relentless protests should force a thorough investigation of what happened in the 2016 election! They should ensure secure elections going forward! And they should FORCE from office–and into prison–EVERYONE guilty of betraying this country, of stealing the election and of plotting, now, through repeated obstruction of justice, to undermine the RULE OF LAW!!

      Let them get away with THIS, and the Republic is FINISHED: they will steal elections in the future the same way they did in 2016!! They will stack–continue to stack–the courts with their henchmen, and this nation will be a BANANA REPUBLIC!!

      It is already on the road to that FATE as we speak!!

      • Adam King

        Take a chill pill, Bill. I didn’t say it was a good thing, and I didn’t say we should give up.

        • billbear1961

          You said we’re stuck, and stopped.

          We are NOT stuck unless we choose to be.

          • Adam King

            Some people go on long-winded rants, some don’t. We’re stuck with the idiot in the White House for the time being.

          • billbear1961

            My RANTS can stop the minute people tell me they’re tired of them.

          • Adam King

            I don’t mind them a bit, but don’t direct them at me.

          • billbear1961

            Adam, I think of you as a friend.

            Your post struck me as defeatist and that pushed me over the edge. (I’ve seen too many people online, on progressive sites, express the same notion, that we’re “stuck.”)

            I am sorry if you feel personally insulted by my reaction.

          • Adam King
          • billbear1961

            🙂

          • Reality.Bites

            Hey! Get an ice flow you two!

          • UrsusArctos

            I understand your reaction. To me “stuck” means trying harder to go over/under/around/through. It’s a point we’re at, not an endpoint. Being a blue dot in a red sea can drive that kind of pragmatic outlook. That said, there’s few things as fierce as the roar of an ursus maritimus
            ( http://www.nwf.org/Wildlife/Threats-to-Wildlife/Global-Warming/Effects-on-Wildlife-and-Habitat/Polar-Bears/Polar-Bear-Sounds.aspx )

          • TonberryPi

            I hope your ‘rants’ never stop billbear – your righteous ROAR is a great inspiration to so many people.

          • billbear1961

            I have no desire to insult friends, quite the contrary.

            I repeat myself endlessly, and feel there’s less and less point.

            The massive and relentless protests I’m increasingly convinced are needed to save this republic just aren’t going to happen.

            The will to fight evil, the way our parents fought the Jim Crow laws in the south, is just missing in Americans in our time.

            We have LET the right-wing propaganda machine DESTROY this democracy. They STILL act with impunity, treated like colleagues by the “serious” press, which has failed MISERABLY in its duty to protect the truth from lies and democracy from hateful extremism.

            Not ONE institution in this county has been left uncompromised by the murderously evil gangster oligarchs’ money.

            It’s not too late to turn things around, but the FIGHT will have to be FIERCE, and I just don’t think our side has it in them.

            The right doesn’t think so, either, which is why they are so brazen and ever-BOLDER.

            They’ve seen the Democratic party and have concluded we have no REAL leadership,

            From what I’ve seen, there is every reason to fear they are right.

            🙁

    • billbear1961

      If THIS is the conclusion people have reached, if they are going to bow down to this EVIL, there is no point in posting ONE FURTHER WORD on this or ANY U.S. site!!

    • -M-

      We’re only stuck until we choose to do something about it.

      • billbear1961

        ^^THIS!!!!^^

      • safari

        …and ALEC will be holding an Article V meeting in Arizona this weekend…

    • Cuberly

      It’s also that modern communications are so prone to such nefarious use. Due to the open nature of the web the biggest problem is how we’re constantly reacting retroactively to the problems. And you have facebook and twitter, they sure seem cautious about owning up to their lack of oversight.

      The alt-right wants us to scream radical islamic terrorism. What about the US based social media companies being used in less than desirable ways?

      There’s a big conversation looming on the horizon and it’ll have lots of different concerns to discuss, the open web, the right to anonymity online, freedom of speech, where does liability land in relation to destructive use of social media….the list is long.

    • Treant

      Technically, the Supreme Court can nullify the election and call for a new one. It’s not within their written abilities, but neither was the decision to toss Florida votes in the 2000 election and crown Bush boy-emperor.

      It’s even possible that it’ll piss off some Southern states enough for them to leave, so we can repatriate their liberals back into the USA and let them fall into a quagmire of gunshots, cannibalism, and chemical plant fires.

      • Adam King

        I agree entirely. The Supreme Court should step up and rule out the election. But they won’t, unfortunately. They only interfere in elections in favor of Republicans.

        • Reality.Bites

          The Supremes aren’t ever going to step in without being asked by someone with standing.

          • Adam King

            They’re soooo boring.

      • billbear1961

        The right has been holding this country back long enough with their deliberate lies and obstructionist, extremist BULLSHIT.

        There is no reason for decent people to submit to rule by representatives and judges they can PROVE are liars, crooks, and extremists out to deprive MILLIONS of their CIVIL RIGHTS (and who plan to rob people, including CHILDREN, of their healthcare only so they can give the filthy rich huge tax cuts).

        In fact, it would be an immoral and cowardly act to submit to such TYRANNY!!

        If–IF–there is no other way to stop this fascist regime and the party that is aiding and abetting them, it IS time to consider a progressive secession:

        http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/it-time-consider-progressive-secession-vision-principled-nation-states-where

      • RoFaWh

        “not within their written abilities”

        There is law higher than the Constitution. Every state has the inherent right to protect its own sovereignty by pretty much whatever means is necessary.

  • Sam_Handwich
    • Cuberly

      Thanks for posting this. Finally some good news, and some drawn battle lines as well.

    • another_steve

      Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, a Republican from Florida, has a trans son. She’s spoken out forcefully against anti-trans measures across the nation.

      Will be interesting to see what she does here.

      • UrsusArctos

        I didn’t know that. Her VOTING record is near deploreable. She’s the reason I detest Wasserman-Schultz. Those 2 are buddies and WS killed off any viable Democratic challenger to IRS in the name of “solidarity among the S FL caucus”, even as DNCC chair .

    • billbear1961
  • bkmn

    Which will make the intel community work so much harder to make their case

  • canoebum

    The Eisenhower Republicans are turning over in their graves now that the Grand Old Party elected a commie stooge to be President.

    • Reality.Bites

      Russia is essentially a right wing dictatorship of the sort the Republicans (and, to be honest, the Democrats and the main parties of United States allies as well) have always been happy to deal with.

      A major break with the past, of course, is in the past the United States wasn’t the junior partner in these deals where a puppet government was installed.

      • canoebum

        I won’t agree that the Democratic Party is allied with right wing dictatorships as are the Republicans. It’s the Democrats who are trying to expand voting rights, civil rights, consumer protections, worker protections, adequate regulation of commerce and industry, universal healthcare, educational opportunity, environmental protection, fair housing and the living wage. Show me a Republican in favor of those things. This false equivalency crap is just that, crap. Sure, they could make improvements, be more assertively progressive, but supporters of right wing dictatorships? I’m not buying that.

        • Reality.Bites

          Really?

          Which right-wing dictatorship did the Democrats ever break diplomatic ties with? Or Canada’s Liberal party? Or the UK’s Labour Party?

          It doesn’t matter a bit that the Democrats are better on myriad other issues. Doesn’t take anything away from the fact that parties have traditionally not given a damn about doing business with appalling right-wing dictatorships

          • canoebum

            It doesn’t matter a bit? Well, I can see you have a discerning mind. Do us all a favor, please. Don’t bother voting anymore.

    • coram nobis

      Irony deepens: Donald was a protegé of Roy Cohn, who was counsel to Joseph McCarthy.

  • j.martindale

    I think the laws governing assassinations of hostile leaders should be eliminated.

    • Reality.Bites

      Are you talking about Putin or Trump?

      • MBear

        Yes

        • Reality.Bites

          Should leaders of corporate team-building exercises be included?

          • agcons

            They go first.

          • RoFaWh

            Oh, those< people!

            Back in the day, word had it that some of them had a gimmick: they would cut some attendee's tie off with scissors. I don't know what the outcome was when the victim of the "joke" pointed out that a $200 tie had just been ruined, and I'd like reimbursement right now if you please or I'm phoning the cops.

          • Reality.Bites

            Perhaps the team building exercise was a Jewish funeral.

      • j.martindale

        Yes.

    • coram nobis

      Trouble is, that’s what got us World War I. Empires don’t take kindly to an heir getting bumped off.

  • Jerry Kott

    That fact that Russia has some responsibility in who is in this WhiteHouse and the ruse seems to be shrugged off is a very serious concern. The alarms should be deafening.

  • Reality.Bites
    • billbear1961

      And another KISS?

      🙂

  • rednekokie

    Putin is as big a liar as tRump. That’s why they are such close friends.

  • MarkBuster

    still confused about how they stole it though. by publishing emails?

  • fuzzybits

    So,when in the hell is anything going to be done about it!?

    • ian

      Nothing so long as the GOP controls both houses. With voter suppression, gerrymandering, and hacking voting machines, they’re confident they’ll remain in power. The GOP is only interested in maintaining their hold on power, and keeping the corporate money tap flowing. We are only now waking up to the fact that democracy in America is over.

    • Max_1

      We live in the “It’s always too soon to act” Century…

  • coram nobis

    No, no, you haven’t stolen the president, Comrade. He’s still in the White House. Can you come and get him? DCPD will give you 48 hours’ head start.

  • MassageBear
  • coram nobis

    For whatever it’s worth in this context.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEvEmkMNYHY

  • justme

    So the “R”‘s behind their name is not for Republican but for Russian…