AUSTRALIA: High Court Rules 7-0 That Non-Binding Postal Survey On Same-Sex Marriage Will Go Forward

ABC News reports:

The High Court has ruled 7-0 to dismiss challenges to the Federal Government’s $122 million same-sex marriage postal survey, clearing the way for it to go ahead. The Federal Government welcomed the unanimous High Court ruling, announcing the survey would continue as planned and the final result would be declared by the chief statistician at 11:30am on November 15.

Now that it has been given the green light, the Australian Bureau of Statistics will start sending out ballot papers from Tuesday. Everyone should have received their survey form by September 25. The paper will ask: “Should the law be changed to allow same-sex couples to marry?”

Returning the survey and participating in the ballot is optional, but must be returned by 6:00pm on November 7 at the latest in order to be counted. Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull urged all eligible Australians to vote in the survey.

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  • DaddyRay

    I remember so clearly when straight people having the ability to marry the person they love was surveyed by mail in Australia

    • bambinoitaliano

      I think it was a grassroot movement. They went door to door.

      • DaddyRay

        Grass would certainly help with the binding

    • fuow

      Yeah, I remember when you went door to door in Ireland asking permission.

      • PRW

        That was actually (kind of) the case in English law at one point; the marriage had to be announced several times in advance at church services to see if anyone would raise an objection to it.

        • Diogenes Onionpants

          But the point of publishing the banns was to ensure, in a time without central record keeping, that neither party was already married and that they were not related. Those are the relevant “objections” that are solicited and the only ones considered–it’s entirely irrelevant if someone objects to a heterosexual marriage on moral grounds. So the cases aren’t actually analogous.

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    • Todd20036

      It was the day after the Bowling Green Massacre

      • doninkansas

        I was there, bowling on the green, it a bigly massacre too! Blood and guts everywhere and I bowled my best game ever!

        • David Walker

          I lived there and was home baking. It was the only time a cake collapsed in the oven. Frankly, when that happened, I didn’t care who lost.

  • bambinoitaliano

    The elected cowards avoiding their responsibilities by wasting $122 million tax payers dollar. I hope the Australians remember which useless piece of shit has no business in running for government in the next election.

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  • Joe in PA

    Matt Baume still does his Marriage Equality podcast with his partner James. He keeps up with the crap going on in Australia and it is often hilarious to hear James’ reaction to the goings on.

  • Karl Dubhe

    I don’t recall them doing that kind of thing when the idea of women being allowed the right to vote was approved by their parliament.

    I could be wrong.

    Way back when, when only the property holders could vote, I don’t recall them being asked about letting the other men vote. That was the representatives who decided to do that. IIRC.

    But I could be wrong.

    Perhaps there’s something different here?

    • bobbleobble

      Not only that but back in 2004 when John Howard was pm and various jurisdictions were beginning to discuss same sex marriage they realised that there was nothing in Australia’s Marriage Act that prevented gay couples from marrying. So Howard’s government passed amendments to the act to explicitly do so. There was no referendum back then, the government just went ahead and did it. But apparently now, making any amendments to the marriage act needs the assent of the people. Funny that.

      I only hope Turnbull, Shorten and others actually get out there and campaign hard for a yes vote as the politicians did in Ireland. You can bet your ass that the no camp will be on the ball and with this not being binding it will be difficult to convince those who don’t really care to make the effort.

    • ChrisMorley

      Australian Suffragettes

      In 1902, Australia was the first country in the world to give women both
      the right to vote in federal elections and also the right to be elected to parliament on a national basis. …. Indigenous people as a group were not granted suffrage in federal elections until 1962.

      Australian Voting History:

  • Ernest Endevor

    Next vote: Do blondes have more fun?

  • fuow

    Meanwhile, we’re about to lose our rights in the Colorado Bakery Case….gee, thanks all you non-voters. Perhaps you can become Australians and boycott the mail-in ballots because they’re not printed on quite the right sort of eco-friendly paper?

  • Ross

    Can somebody please explain why the majority should be allowed to decide the rights for the minority????????

    • KarenAtFOH

      Repulsive, really.

    • bambinoitaliano

      Apparently leadership no longer a requirement for anyone running for office.

    • Joseph Miceli


    • David Walker

      Since there are more of them, they are by (their) definition right. When they realize they are about to slip into the minority, they are in USA 2017.

  • Jonathan Smith
    • Rambie

      I was so mad last night thinking it was already Thursday night.

      • Ragnar Lothbrok

        You ok now ?

        • Rambie

          No, it’s still only Thursday instead of Friday. LOL

          • vorpal 😼

            It’s Friday in Australia. Hop on a flight :-).

          • Rambie

            This is true, but means Monday is just that much closer too. 😉

  • Tawreos

    Good luck to our brothers and sisters in Australia. I hope they can overcome the lies and hatred that the other side is using to to support discrimination.

  • Bj Lincoln

    The survey could be overwhelmingly for marriage and the government could still say no so why bother spending that much money? The wife has a friend there and he said most people don’t give a shit but the government is doing everything they can to keep it from happening including pissing off millions for no reason. In the mean time, people are getting overloaded with haters lies on TV, newspapers and mail.

  • Reality.Bites

    Ot: Colton Haynes’s birthday message to his fiancé

    coltonlhaynes: Since it’s technically @jeffleatham ’s birthday in Paris right now (his actual bday here is tmrw the 7th 😍)…I’m celebrating him by sharing a little story of how we met…at this very spot 🙂 Jeff & I were supposed to meet 4 yrs ago through a set up date from our dear friend @valvogt . I wasn’t in a very good place at the time & we lived in different places so we both decided not to meet (but we did do a little bit of internet stalking and I loved what I saw :)…flash to yrs later when we happened to randomly run into eachother at the airport lounge in Paris where Jeff hit me with his bag & said “Hey punk…aren’t you Colton?” & after 10 seconds of literal love at first mtg…I responded “Hi Jeff” and couldn’t find words to say cause I was dumbstruck. So after he physically accosted me lol he then carried my bags to the plane where we sat just 3 rows away from eachother. After passing post it notes back and forth & sending Champagne love letters…Jeff asked me to come cuddle with him on the plane & from that day on…my life has forever been changed. There aren’t words to express how kind, loving, beautiful, & talented this man is & im so lucky to get to spend not just his birthday with him…but also life with him. Ur my rock. I love you. Happy Birthday boo bah ✈️🏝🎉🎁🎈 [x]

    • EdmondWherever

      I’d head for that like an arrow! He could be part of my arsenal.

  • netxtown

    I still just can’t wrap my head around why ‘governments’ are entitled to legislate a basic human right. It is so simple – and they turn it into damned fight.

  • lenvus

    Daily cynic here: What does it do really though if it is “non-binding”? Couldn’t the homophobic assholes in the Australian legislative bodies still reject Same-Sex Marriage outright, without regard to any postal survey? Of course, I am hoping this will provide a clear incentive to change the law. But, there are always a few assholes along the way…

  • Gigi

    The haters from the Australian Christian Lobby are hitting this hard. Spewing the same lies and misinformation used by the haters here in their effort to deny marriage equality to LGBT couples. I’m hoping for the best but since this is a non-bonding plebiscite (costing the taxpayers more than $120 million), even if the majority vote ‘Yes’ the government can still say no.

    If you have FB, pay a visit to them and let them know how you feel. 💓🌈👬🌈👭🌈💓

    • Ninja0980

      And I have no doubt they will for the sake of power.

    • BearEyes

      And that’s only one part of the problem. Standard Rule of civility don’t apply as a turdbull way to try and sabotage it.

    • vorpal 😼

      It’s utterly amazing that people haven’t learned that nothing bad has come of gay marriage in any of the many other countries that have accepted it, but they still spout the same idiotic fears and rhetoric to deny it in their own country.

      • Gigi

        They keep saying things like “look what happened in Canada when SSM was forced on them.” The thing is, the only thing that happened in Canada is now there are same-waz couples getting married. Approval for SSM is now at 70% and climbing accepting to a poll from the conservative paper, the National Post.

        ‘Seven-in-ten Canadians support gay marriage, according to Forum poll conducted the day the Supreme Court unveiled it landmark ruling. That also means almost a third don’t, despite it being legal and commonplace for so long.

        That too, is changing.

        “While the Supreme Court’s decision may not have had a significant effect overall, it has moved the needle among important groups who formerly were resistant to acceptance of same sex marriage, the older males in lower income brackets,” said Lorne Bozinof, Forum Research President.’

        • JCF

          “That also means almost a third don’t”

          But more and more of that “third” is dying off every year!

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  • Ninja0980

    122 million wasted on a non binding vote.
    And the bigots get to lie, lie and lie some more too.. got to love it.

  • KnownDonorDad

    Let this be Ireland, part 2.

  • Robert Adams

    For all those who challenged the survey:

  • JWC

    Just anothe Stall tactic

  • JCF

    Inasmuch as I believe it (the “Yes” vote) will PASS…

    …I think this is better than the alternative.