Trump Again Repeats Debunked Tax Rate Claim

The Week reports:

President Trump is traveling to North Dakota on Wednesday, where he will visit an Andeavor oil refinery to discuss tax reform. “We are the highest taxed nation in the world,” Trump added to this announcement on Twitter, an entirely false statement that he has made at least three times.

“By all metrics we looked at, the United States is far from the most taxed nation overall and for businesses,” wrote Politifact when they were correcting this assertion in May. When it comes to tax revenue as a percentage of the GDP, the United States in 2012 (the last year with complete data) did not even break the top 30 countries in the world, Politifact adds.

  • That_Looks_Delicious

    It’s weird to me when the news just keeps covering Trump as if nothing were wrong and he was some kind of normal president.

    • LesbianTippingHabits

      Of course. It’s fake news, after all. And you’ve just confirmed it.

    • Todd20036

      He’s not a normal president, and he never will be.

      • johncAtl

        He’s not a normal human.

        • prixator

          Is he *really* a human??

      • bzrd

        he’s the Resident Nazi

  • LesbianTippingHabits


    Sorry, Donald. North Dakota can only produce puny crowds for you.

    • That_Looks_Delicious

      Well, after witnessing the devastation in Texas “first hand”, he needs a break.

      I think he should go ride his golf cart around Mar-A-Lago this weekend.

      • clay

        Time to go see Puerto Rico first hand, from North Dakota.

        • Stogiebear

          They’re both more or less rectangular so that makes perfect sense.

          • clay

            fit well on a wide-screen TV, and all.

        • Gustav2

          Why would he leave the country and go to Puerto Rico during this time of crisis?

          (yes, I know)

      • Uncle Mark

        I think the shitgibbon should set up his hurricane HQ there…and assemble his cabinet there…along with the turtle & Lyin’ Ryan

      • LesbianTippingHabits

        An excellent idea! And see for himself that climate change is a hoax!

  • thecdn

    I’m a Canadian currently living in the US. Would he like to see my tax returns? Or those of a person from any other first world democracy?
    He knows he can lie his ass off because the corrections will never appear on the ‘news sources’ frequented by his supporters.

    • LesbianTippingHabits

      And in the 1950s, when America was Great, rich people paid much more.

      • That_Looks_Delicious

        The Republicans are aiming more for the 1850s than for the 1950s.

        • Jeffg166

          And what’s wrong with feudalism?

          • Stev84

            America is already neo-feudal. You only have the choice to pick your liege lord/employer. After that it’s total obedience.

            The idea that you can sign away many of your rights with a contract is very popular. Lots of people say “You know X when you signed a contract and now you have to stick with it”.

          • Jeffg166

            I’m glad I’m an old person.

      • Gerry Fisher

        Past a certain amount earned, it was 90%. Today we’re haggling about rates in the thirties.

        • Chris Baker

          I wonder how CEO salaries compare, too. Or the general wealth distribution. I would guess that there are many more extremely wealthy people now then there were in the 1950s.

          Well, I did a quick Google and: “In the 1950s, the ratio between CEO salary of S&P 500 type companies and their workers was 20-to-1. According to study by the career website Glassdoor.com featured last week in The Wall Street Journal, the ratio is now 204-to-1. That means that the average CEO-to-worker pay ratio is up 1000% since 1950.”

          So I think that just makes the case that taxes should be higher–because executive pay is so much higher, as a percentage, than it was in the 1950s.

          Sure, I would love to be rich, but I don’t understand the desire/need to have hundreds of millions of dollars. At a certain point, what are you going to do with it?

          • carrot festival
          • canoebum

            Give it away. I can think of dozens of things I could do for other people that only require the money and the will to see them accomplished; things that could make the lives of others better. You are right, after a certain point, how much more comfortable can you make yourself? Sadly, many of America’s very wealthy don’t see things that way. Money is a measure of how far ahead they are in the game. It’s pathetic.

          • ZRAinSWVA

            I would buy every scrap of land I could and put it all in a conservancy. I cry every time I see a beautiful farm and all its fields being chopped into 5 acre lots, in the middle of which someone will plop a 5,000 sf home.

          • canoebum

            That is happening a lot in the farm country where I live. Still, there are many small family farms and woodlots, with lots of places left in a state of nature by private owners.

          • Ragnar Lothbrok

            Not here.
            Everything is being decimated.

          • whollyfool

            Or forests.

          • DorothyJEscobar

            Google is paying 97$ per hour! Work for few hours and have longer with friends & family!!!
            On tuesday I got a great new Land Rover Range Rover from having earned $8752 this last four weeks.. Its the most-financialy rewarding I’ve had.. It sounds unbelievable but you wont forgive yourself if you don’t check it >>>http://GoogleFinancialJobsCash48TopNetwork/GetPay$97/Hour…….

          • Chris Baker

            Yes, I think that would be fun. I see so many charities that need help. Esp. the ones for GLBT teens. Buy them a nice building, fund them for a couple years. I don’t need the building named after me or anything. I don’t care about that. I could live nice for the rest of my life for $5m. Really nice for $10m. Super nice for $20m. But after that, just give it away.

            My friend hates it when I bring this up, but there’s that Walmart heiress who gets $100m a quarter in dividend payments. Gives basically nothing to charity. WTF?

          • canoebum

            One of the first I’d want to do is create a group of summer camps for queer youth, especially those who are in distressed circumstances and could benefit from 2 or 3 weeks of summer camp outdoors,away from the city in fresh air and sunshine. After that, more housing and education opportunities.

          • bzrd

            “What are you going to do with it?”
            keep it from the lowly paid then complain daily how you need a new jet, house, million dollar birthday party, etc.

          • MBear

            Go shopping in KY then post on Twitter all the designer names

          • Ragnar Lothbrok

            It’s a form of hoarding.

        • Frostbite

          And we have the disintegration to go along with it. Crumbling infrastructure, falling bridges, etc.

        • Stev84

          At least on paper. Even then there were plenty of loopholes everyone used

    • MusicBear88

      I’d like to see HIS tax returns!

    • Keith D Plane

      and you haven’t gone back to Canada? I admire that you still stay here, me I’m looking at diff. places, I want the fuck out of here.

      • thecdn

        I currently have a really good job that I couldn’t easily find an equivalent of in Canada. If we won a lottery we’d be gone in a second. The wife and I plan to retire from Florida to Canada – too many things stereotypical Canadians like us dislike about the US to stay here forever. And that was before Trump.

  • netxtown

    OT: anybody heard from Mark down in Irma’s path?

    • That_Looks_Delicious

      And not paying taxes made him “smart.”

      • netxtown

        WoW! discuss is doing some weird shit.

        • That_Looks_Delicious

          What is “WoW! discuss”? Aren’t you on Disqus?

          • netxtown

            i wish i delt compelled to use the proper name…but ….

  • bambinoitaliano

    This asshole just keep looting in front of America while being supported by the GOP and his deplorables. That’s the kind of status the Nazis/KKK wanted. Day light entitled robbing privilege.

  • netxtown

    OT: anybody heard from Mark down in Irma’s path?

    • Stogiebear

      Last comment in his history was from 11:05 pm last night.

    • johncAtl

      NHC 8am update has him right in the center of it, still with 185mph winds. Very scary.

      • netxtown

        shit. please let him be ok!

  • netxtown

    Big News!!

    Donnie has declared he will immediately deport Jose if he touches US soil…..

  • Beagle

    Dump lies. In other news, water is wet, and today is a day ending in “y.”

  • Jeffrey

    One of the biggest problems today on both sides is informational laziness. We live in a time with more information at our fingertips than we had in entire libraries only decades ago. BUT people read tweets and headlines and don’t delve further…especially if it comes from their chosen, demagogue. I don’t know if we will ever sort this out.

    • JD

      perhaps the biggest threat to democracy–where a population holds convictions shaped intentionally by liars, so believes that they are exercising a freely democratic vote, not realizing they’ve been hoodwinked. Increasingly, we see politicians hiring data firms to mine for angles, to shape disinformation built on discovered biases, and then citing the democratic outcome as a defense against opposition. I didn’t put that well, I think, but there’s something in this.

      • Jeffrey

        House of Cards saw it coming two seasons ago.

  • William

    Restore the Eisenhower era tax code!!!

  • rednekokie

    When the American people (and the people of the world, for that matter) finally get the hint that everything tRump says is a bare faced lie, then perhaps the perception of him as a total loser will finally rest home.
    The only thing which is definitely true is the location that Air Force One finally lands. You can then assume that he will be stepping off it for yet another photo opp.

  • Rebecca Gardner
    • Friday

      Cause it’s the only place not near one of the disasters he’s ignoring while trying to cut the disaster budgets to shovel more money at the rich and build a useless wall?

      • Paul

        Unfortunately, right next door to ND in Montana there are raging fires that are being pretty much ignored by the media and I am sure no one has told 45 it is happening. SAD

  • Galvestonian

    Except as far as paying taxes that’s something Cheetolini doesn’t pay anyhow …

  • Robert Adams

    If he is talking about how mentally taxed we all are thanks to his machinations, he is correct.

  • boatboy_srq

    There’s no winning with the GOTea. Make them pay taxes and you “oppress” them; but allow them the ability to zero their tax obligation and you’re contributing to the 47% (who “pay no taxes”). They resent every cent they pay, but FSM forbid that they be relieved of their patriotic duty to pay by making them one of those “takers.”

  • Friday

    The only place they won’t ask him about his cutting of disaster budgets during multiple natural disasters?

  • kareemachan

    drumpster should go golf in FL again. Stay at Mar a Lardo.

  • billbear1961

    He’s a proven pathological liar. The graft he’s engaged in is unparalleled. His ignorance (of history, of how government works, of policy) and recklessness are on almost daily display (with not infrequent examples of mental incoherence). He’s damaging our oldest alliances, our trade agreements, the natural environment. He attacks the independence of the judiciary, the freedom of the press, the separation of powers, every chance he gets. He gives aid and comfort to NAZIS and other violent racists. He uses their religion to target innocent people for a travel ban. For no rational reason, he suddenly demands, using social media, that transgender people serving their country, many risking their lives, be separated from the armed forces. He torments decent human beings brought here as CHILDREN with threats to their legal status in this country. He permits–encourages–ICE to behave like Gestapo. He undermines the rule of law by pardoning a concentration camp commandant. He encourages the DoJ to act as HIS private security apparatus, pushing them to pursue his political opposition, to lay off his allies who find themselves in trouble with the law. He has repeatedly OBSTRUCTED JUSTICE. Flagrant interference with the 2016 election goes uninvestigated; no effort to ensure the security of future elections is underway. He hides his financial records. He appoints far-right fanatics to the courts. He’s crippling the Executive branch of government by gutting departments and refusing to even nominate candidates for nearly two-thirds of vacant posts. He wants to strip millions of their health insurance and to allow tens of thousands of uninsured people–including CHILDREN–to die prematurely each year, all so that the obscenely rich can revel and roll in huge tax cuts.

    Where are the Democrats? Where are the massive and relentless protests they should be organizing to FORCE Congress to REMOVE this unfit GANGSTER–this DEFILER of the Republic–from power??

  • Tom000

    You can “blah-blah-blah” all day about taxes, but until people understand WHAT they are talking about (how taxes are applied), it will be useless. The U.S. Tax Code could be a billion pages, but only one page of it would actually apply to 99.99% of the people who actually pay taxes.

  • BlindBill

    North Dakota – because it is far away from Texas and Florida … he is thinking – all that rain and wind makes my wig look bad and my spray tan run.

  • greenmanTN

    The sad and frankly sick thing is that his supporters will insist this is true and repeat it endlessly despite all evidence to the contrary.

    I mean look at the people who blame Obama for 9/11. How fucking stupid do you have to be to think Obama was President in 2001?

  • JCF