VIRAL VIDEO: Cop Drags Away Screaming Nurse When She Won’t Let Him Take Blood From Unconscious Man

The Washington Post reports:

By all accounts, the head nurse at the University of Utah Hospital’s burn unit was professional and restrained when she told a Salt Lake City police detective he wasn’t allowed to draw blood from a badly injured patient.

The detective didn’t have a warrant, first off. And the patient wasn’t conscious, so he couldn’t give consent. Without that, the detective was barred from collecting blood samples — not just by hospital policy, but by basic constitutional law.

Still, Detective Jeff Payne insisted that he be let in to take the blood, saying the nurse would be arrested and charged if she refused. Nurse Alex Wubbels politely stood her ground. She got her supervisor on the phone so Payne could hear the decision loud and clear. “Sir,” said the supervisor, “you’re making a huge mistake because you’re threatening a nurse.”

Payne snapped. He seized hold of the nurse, shoved her out of the building and cuffed her hands behind her back. A bewildered Wubbels screamed “help me” and “you’re assaulting me” as the detective forced her into an unmarked car and accused her of interfering with an investigation.

More from the Salt Lake Tribune:

The footage shows the detective dragging Wubbels out of the hospital and putting her inside a patrol car as she screams, “Help! Help! Somebody help me! Stop! Stop! I did nothing wrong!”

A University of Utah police officer and Department of Public Safety officers, who provide security for the hospital, were present at time of the arrest and did not intervene.

As he stands in the hospital parking lot after the arrest, Payne says to another officer that he wonders how this event will affect an off-duty job transporting patients for an ambulance company.


  • No More GOP.

    The cop should be permanently barred from police work.

    • Lazycrockett

      He should be tossed in the same jail cell as the other’s he has arrested.

      • Ragnar Lothbrok

        Yes. Lock him up!!

      • I like that idea. Just make sure that there are no guards around. Problem solved, problem stays solved.

    • Do Something Nice

      He’ll probably get a presidential pardon, especially if he ‘grabbed’ the nurse.

      • Bluto

        Naw, he didn’t manhandle her enough or slam her head into his vehicle as he’s suppose to do.
        But lemme guess, he feared for his life.

    • Buford

      He needs to be prosecuted and convicted. Suspensions and firings… even when they actually happen… are completely insufficient deterrents for this type of violation of a citizen’s civil rights.

    • e jerry powell

      The D.A. hasn’t decided what charges should be filed yet, but he does plan to file charges.

    • DonnaLee

      They will definitely settle this out of court, because whomever is his lawyer is going to not want this going anywhere outside of a law office.

  • bkmn

    I see a big lawsuit coming for that officer, DPS and the university police.

    • Todd20036

      And the nurse is owed an apology from the chief of police.

      • FAEN

        At the very least.

      • Michael White

        I hope she sues the shit out of them

        • Ragnar Lothbrok

          She said she has no plans to, but hasn’t ruled it out either.

      • bambinoitaliano

        Civil lawsuit with big pay out is the only way the fascist will learn their lesson.

        • Joseph Miceli

          They never learn their lessons. You just sue them into harmlessness because they can’t afford ammo (or false teeth.)

          • JW Swift

            What to they care? It’s ultimately the taxpayers who foot the bill.

        • lattebud

          Jail time too

          • bambinoitaliano

            Jail time is a must but it limit to certain individuals. Financial punishment affect the whole institution therefore the entire workforce.

        • Steven Jaeger

          Except it comes out of the city’s insurance policy, it should come out of the policeman’s union/retirement funds and directly out of the pockets of the offending officer and his supervisors.

          • Phillip in L.A.

            If they have insurance for this. Many municipalities are “self-insured” (meaning they have no insurance); many insurers won’t cover this type of liability and/or policy prohibits coverage for ‘willful’ acts,

    • That_Looks_Delicious

      I’m imagining hundreds of thousands of lawyers calling Salt Lake City right now jamming all the phone lines.

    • ByronK

      Apparently she is declining to sue. The officer should still face severe disciplinary action. Haha, as if that will happen. 🙁

      • Blake Mason

        If she does not sue how is there suppose to be change dammit?

  • watchthewingnuts

    Anyone really doubt we live in a police state?

    • another_steve

      Not true.

      You’re extrapolating from the exception to the whole.

      • Joseph Miceli

        And you are ignoring reality.

        • another_steve

          You may recall Joe having posted pictures and video of this banner at NYC’s Pride Parade in June. The banner read “There are no queer friendly cops.”

          For me, that banner has become Exhibit A for arguing that the extremist far left in this country is as dangerous – perhaps more dangerous – to society as is the extremist far right.

          https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/597fc7c8887d6a816f2bbecb8bc8f7ad7a70949cd63c7cb5bcbaca9764414aba.jpg

          • The_Wretched

            Funny, I don’t see them driving cars or open carrying M16s.

          • another_steve

            If the police forces of America stopped protecting my ass, your ass and the asses of every queer American reading here – each and every day in a thousand different ways – there wouldn’t be a JMG blog and there wouldn’t be any queer people left.

          • The_Wretched

            “Extremist left is dangerous”
            “guns toting right wingers are a clearly bigger danger”
            “police protect you and me”

            #3 there is a non-sequitur.

            The part you need to argue is that “Holding the police to account on net reduces protection of queer folks”.

            I don’t think it does. Social protesting is a blunt instrument that increases pressure for police reforms and changes to policing policy. The actual words used are somewhat beside the point (unless they call for violence, that’s a different story). Absent civic engagement, we see ever increasing protections for the police who violate our rights. I follow the SCT rulings on police issues and they win every single time.

          • another_steve

            The courts have generally afforded police forces wide latitude in carrying out their mission, which is to protect the public and their property. Subject of course to zero tolerance for bigotry and biased, selective enforcement.

            Police officers who are bigots and who don’t enforce the law equally need to be sent packing. If they violate anyone’s civil rights, they need to be prosecuted.

            Most cops – the vast majority – aren’t bigots. The far leftist bullshit meme that says “cops are the enemy” (see the Pride Day banner I posted elsewhere here) is just that.

            Bullshit.

      • jsmukg

        False. You’re blithely ignoring mountains of evidence. Didn’t notice the content of the very story on which you are commenting, hmmm? Didn’t notice the responses mentioning militarized fascist police responses to various protests? That’s merely on this thread alone, TODAY. JMG regularly posts stories documenting police brutality, racism, corruption, and complete abuse of power. Your wingnut ‘law and order’ apologetics–and their recycled reactionary pomposities, including but not limited to “The courts have generally afforded police forces wide latitude in carrying out their mission”– are straight out of Whitebarf/WND and could be direct quotes from those sites.

    • Xiao Ai: The Social Gadfly

      Not in the least.

    • Joseph Miceli

      Do YOU have your PAPERS?

      • The_Wretched

        Arpaio’s rounding up the latinx population was on a “papers please” basis. Any who couldn’t were put in his concentration camp.

        • Joseph Miceli

          I talk to a lot of kids in their early 20’s and I like to ask them, “Is it legal for you to leave home without your I.D.” Only one kid in the last 10 years answered “Yes.”
          Sad.

          • The_Wretched

            Right, just to be clear, It’s entirely legal to not carry id and to walk away from a cop. The cops are also limited in what they can ask you legally.

      • Michael White

        And when this happens to a white person we are all in danger. Maybe not if the cop was mormon after all women are just baby factories for them.

      • zhera

        Ihre Papiere, Bitte!

        • The_Wretched

          “Aus Weiss”

      • UrsusArctos

        I have carried my passport card in my wallet since 9/11 and I’m a 50+ year old, Bubba looking, white, male.
        What convinced me was that back in 2000? or so the Highway Patrol called in everyone in the county with registered commercial trucks for a meeting with the then Border Patrol. They “explained” that us locals needed to get out equipment up to 100% because they were starting a program of using enforcement pinch point counties along the interstates off immediate border to relieve the load at the border, targeting trucks.
        We’re over 700 miles from the closest land border crossing but I suddenly started seeing Border Patrol cars. I viewed that (correctly after the Patriot Act) as the 1st step to creating a national police. I don’t have a huge problem with National Police forces per se. Most European countries have them. I was concerned that the US would go the South American route. It’s looking more and more like that’s what’s being constructed.
        I do it as a protest, others think it’s a “good idea”. Jeebus.

    • The_Wretched

      That’s the road we’re on. It ends in Gilead.

  • Todd20036

    Yup. Stupid is, as stupid does.

    ANd people wonder why liberals are skeptical of police officers when they are willing to break the law, even on camera.

    • watchthewingnuts

      The bigger issue is that there is less and less “breakage” that these police can or will actually be held accountable for. We already know that cops can kill people in cold blood… why should anyone expect them to be held to account for a silly thing like the constitution?

  • June Gordon

    This is when social media earns its keep.

    • another_steve

      Hat cams and the like on all law enforcement officers must become the norm here in the states.

      I’m confident that eventually they will.

      • Steven Jaeger

        except when they turn them off

        • Bad Tom

          Which is why is must become a CRIME for the police to turn their body cams off.

    • Buford

      We’ll see. I’ll wait to celebrate when he’s convicted of violating her civil rights.

  • Tawreos

    That’s a cop that needs all that military grade hardware so he can protect and serve the hell out of us.

  • FAEN

    And people wonder why there are issues with the police. He didn’t have a warrant, the patient couldn’t consent because he was unconscious but that didn’t matter because he’s a cop and above the law.

    Cheeto has really emboldened evil assholes everywhere. ICE/Cops I’m sad to say are employing gestapo like tactics.

    This has got to STOP!

    • melllt

      The police have been acting like this forever. In the old days, she would have been arrested, and charges would be dropped once she got a lawyer, or never even filed.
      The suspect would have their blood drawn and sent to jail, unless they could afford a lawyer, and then it would have to be a good lawyer.
      But now everyone has a video camera in their pocket. It’s hard to teach an old dog new tricks. Some police officers are slowly learning, but not fucking fast enough.

      • My Grandfather was the son of a sheriff and a deputy. I remember him telling me when I was around 14 about the good ol’ days, when your buddies always had your back and you could really rough up a perp. My jaw nearly hit the ground, and I was left speechless. I’m glad things are changing, I just wish it were faster.

        • juanjo54

          My father was a close friend with two guys he had gone to high school with, who had gone on to become cops. I cannot begin to recount all the stories I heard from these two cops about the people they beat up and malicious shit they did to people’s property if they were pissed at them. It was one of the motivations I had to go to law school – I wanted to represent people being screwed with by authority.

      • shrpblnd

        The only thing that has changed is the widespread use of video cameras to capture this sort of behavior. Before cops use to be able to get away with it. Now their pictures are plastered all over TV and the internet.

        • (((GC)))

          Several state chapters of the ACLU have “Mobile Justice” apps that let you send them video of incidents.

          • Nychta

            Yep, got one on my phone. Haven’t had occasion to use it yet.

          • (((GC)))

            Likewise.

      • Gerry Fisher

        Minus the video, arresting her but not charging her would have served his purpose: get her out of the way temporarily (and send a message to her) so that he could forcibly get his way.

      • Bad Tom

        He was not a suspect. He was a VICTIM.

        • melllt

          Yes, you are so right. Forgive me for my brain fart.
          He was injured in a traffic accident caused by a suspected criminal who was fleeing from the police.
          Makes this cops actions even more bizarre.

    • Joseph Miceli

      Why should it? Trump is giving local police military hardware so that they can protect themselves from the enemy: us.

      • FAEN

        I’ve never understood that BS either-the police are NOT the military and shouldn’t have their weapons nor act like them.

        In addition the minute you give police forces military grade weapons guess what, they’re just itching to try them out-on US!

      • Duh-David

        Norman Rockwell for Saturday Evening Post vs. Richard Williams for MAD Magazine

        https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/63456f1ecea206f35774433833804dac5b342d316b75dd867533889aaee6b97a.jpg

        • TimJ

          MAD Magazine, still great after 65 years!

        • JCF

          I’d add a visible stain to the little boy’s pants… [Of course, if the little boy was black, he’d have to be on the ground in a choke-hold for it to be realistic (that, or bleeding out).]

      • popebuck1

        Correction: so they can protect the 1% from the rest of us.

        • The_Wretched

          That was the final outcome of the “occupy” movement. The 1% sitting with the cop leaders and directing policy. And that was under Obama (2011).

    • Dean

      You ain’t seen nothin’ yet…
      https://youtu.be/gEPdOZbyzbw

      • That_Looks_Delicious

        Blah, blah same old Malthusian “the sky is falling.”

        • Dean

          You’re not really paying attention are you? This is a Pentagon video obtained by The Intercept.

    • Bad Tom

      AND the patient wasn’t a suspect in any crime.
      Which was why the cop had no probable cause.

      • FAEN

        So why the duck did he need the blood?

        • Bad Tom

          To impeach the innocent victim in the inevitable lawsuits to follow– maybe he had something in his blood that will get the cops off the hook.

          • Cucker “Dick” Tarlson

            Or… because the thug cop was a supposed phlebotomist, some opioids “showed up” in the blood sample. Obviously, then, the victim was an addict, right?

            But then it gets messy to find out that the victim is also a cop….

          • Bad Tom

            The other shocker is that this incident happened on July 26. Someone kept is very quiet for far too long.

  • popebuck1

    Now that they’re attacking white women, can we please start getting outraged about this?

    • Xiao Ai: The Social Gadfly

      White women obeying the law no less, while the police don’t.

    • bambinoitaliano

      Not yet. We’ll have to wait until white men get attack. Remember the Nazi murdered Heather Heyer a few short weeks ago? Many parts of the country is still ignorant to the fascist movement. Clouded by a barrage of misinformation by the propaganda machine from the shit gibbon admin.

      • m_lp_ql_m

        White straight men, you mean.

  • Do Something Nice

    And yet, there are those here who complain about BLM and ‘the left.’

    • Joseph Miceli

      Well, it’s only REAL oppression when it happens to the nice white lady./S

      • Do Something Nice

        They didn’t shoot her – I don’t know what she is complaining about. /s

        • Joseph Miceli

          Thank God for the “/s” key or you and I would be in deep,deep shit.

          • Todd20036

            It’s sad that the /s is necessary, but there are people who truly believe that.

    • Todd20036

      I’ve seen the RWNJs call the BLM a terrorist organization.

      • The_Wretched

        We has a standoff last year in MN where BLM protested a police station. The RWNJs literally shot their guns at the BLM protestors. The cops didn’t help the situation by going full riot gear and intimidation route – against the protestors.

  • another_steve

    Horrible.

    At least she’s going to be a very wealthy woman as a result of this.

    • Todd20036

      Hopefully, the patient will receive some compensation, too

      • stuckinthewoods

        and his blood draw (if it happened) will be inadmissable.

  • That_Looks_Delicious

    Any “evidence” obtained in this manner will be thrown out by any court so fast it’ll make his head spin.

    But what comes out of the lawsuits that this is going to engender will hopefully have far-reaching implications for many years to come.

    • Frank McCormick

      As well as all previous evidence this man has collected. It all now suspect and will be challenged in court.

      • Mike C

        Yup, that’s happening in Baltimore right now.

  • Anastasia Beaverhousen

    I hear 45 has an opening, he loves this shit.

    • liondon#iamnotatraitor

      Healthcare workers liason.

      • Phillip in L.A.

        Oh, no, “Chief of Capitol Police”!

  • jayjonson

    Where is the mayor of Salt Lake City? Shouldn’t she do something abut this renegade cop and police department?

  • ArchiLaw

    He should lose his job, and I hope she sues him personally.

  • Lazycrockett
    • The_Wretched

      It wouldn’t be a day ending in “y” in the Trump the Unfit’s regime were I not disgusted at something I hadn’t known they were doing. Every fascist regime needs its brownshirts. ICE & CBP are working hard to lead the way.

  • Proud MOFO Beaner (bkb)
    • superindy

      What does this have to do with this posting?

      • Proud MOFO Beaner (bkb)

        Nothing . What’s your point?

  • Lakeview Bob

    When I saw Joe’s headline I thought for sure this would be Texas.

  • Xiao Ai: The Social Gadfly

    Fascism is here. Now. Whether you can acknowledge it or not. What will you do?

    • Michael White

      We vote in 2018, take to the streets to show how many of us oppose this bullshit, and continue to bug my government officials both state and national.

  • Amanda B. Rekendwith

    MAGA.

    • Tomcat

      Is that MAKE AMERICA GAG AGAIN?

  • Nic Peterson

    All ist klar, Herr Kommissar?

    • Rebecca Gardner

      Thanks for putting that song in my head.

      https://youtu.be/8-bgiiTxhzM

      • barrixines

        Not that it’s anything less than a pleasure to see you post but you’re meant to be off scuba-diving.

  • Michael White

    As a nurse I can not tell you how proud I am of her. She protected her vulnerable patient and was bullied by our militarized thug cops ( not all cops are thugs, yes I know and support them). This is the culture of death fostered by the GOP since the days of the Civil Rights act. Karma is on her side

    • Buford

      Screw ALL cops. I’m tired of hearing how they are not all bad. Unless/until these mythical good ones stand up and defend citizens against the bad ones, they are all cut from the same dirty cloth.

      In fact, the video above shows other LEO’s who had to have known that the nurse was in the right here, and yet they simply stood by and allowed this maniac to illegally violate the civil rights of this innocent nurse. They are complicit accomplices here.

      • Michael White

        I live in a pretty racially divided city with a sizable African American population with gang problems and a rapidly growing Hispanic community. We are on the I-94 drug route between Chicago and Detroit. We have not had any cop go off and kill or shoot or beat anyone. I attribute this in part to the police force who focus on talking folks down rather than go in with guns blazing and the efforts on the part of the police to have community policing, summer programs for youth. So I support our folks in blue.

        • Buford

          Good for you. All of our opinions of cops are framed by our interactions with them or, otherwise, what we see/read about their actions. My personal experience with cops, as a squeaky-clean person from the safest demographic in this country who has never had a speeding ticket, is that 80% of them are muscle-headed jerks who are overcompensating for feeling impotent in high school. I’ve never broken the law, but I’ve encountered plenty of cops who were unhelpful at best, and abusive at worst. I’ve experienced nice ones, also, but they are the exception… not the rule.

          Add to that the situations like the one above wherein a cop does something blatantly abusive while the dept and his peers refuse to speak out, and it all becomes clear. These guys, overall, are people to avoid if at all possible.

          My opinion of them will become more positive when my positive experiences interacting with LEOs outweigh the negative ones.

          • Michael White

            Understand, I too have interacted with real assholes, but as I don’t want folks lumping all queer folks into one stereotype, I try not to do that with others. I used to work with a nurse whose husband is a cop. Their parties were like any gay orgy i participated in when I was young in the 70’s in SF. Many were exactly what people are saying about cops: over roided assholes. These are men in my city as the ones who have not caused problems here. But because of the current climate, I do not trust them just because they are cops, they have to earn my trust and respect.

          • Gerry Fisher

            I was talking to a friend recently about this issue, and he raised the point that he thought steroid use–and the accompanying aggression and lack of impulse control–may be a factor in this. I didn’t take his point too seriously until I began to observe video of a lot of these cops who clearly look like bodybuilders. (The one in this particular video does not.)

          • Goodboy

            Especially the one holding the door. The only thing he’s on is donuts and coffee.

          • Bad Tom

            Steroids are evil drugs.

          • Joe in Wyo

            I totally agree with you. Living in Wyoming we have a lot of BLM (Bureau of Land Management – to avoid confusion) land and I was stopped a few years ago by a BLM Ranger on a small two-track road going about 5 miles an hour. He wrote me up for not wearing a seat-belt and held me up for about 15 minutes walking around my truck trying to look in the windows (I had refused to let him search the truck) to see if I was hiding whatever he must thought I was hiding. Total jerk. I call it little-man syndrome and see it a lot with our cops here in Wyo.

          • DJ John Bear

            When I was in my very early 20s, I was pulled over at night for speeding, going 70 in a 55. Figuring I was being cooperative,my wallet was in the center glove compartment and as I was retrieving it to get my documents, the cop thought I was hiding something and insisted he search the entire inside of my car. He did not present a warrant, but from what I understand, this fell under “probable cause”. It’s a slippery-slope and 30 years later I’ve become smart enough to wait until the LEO *asks* for my documents before retrieving them.

            But I will echo the sentiment that there are more bad cops than good ones…

          • JW Swift

            Indeed. I’d be FAR more inclined to believe that these cops are the exception instead of the rule, except for what I have witnessed, personally. I cannot recall the last time an interaction with an officer was a positive one. Not only the few traffic stops I’ve been involved with (despite being polite to a fault, I have still always been treated like crap) and witnessing cops who break the various traffic laws that they’re supposed to be enforcing, etc.

            I so badly WANT to be supportive of them and be understanding of just how difficult their jobs are, but instead, they all seem like they just took the job so that they have an excuse for pushing people around, and can walk around with badges and guns that they can use to back-up their bully mentality.

          • Buford

            Exactly. We need more Andy Griffiths and fewer Dirty Harrys. Cops should live in the areas they patrol. They should have a vested interest in the community, and the community should be able to develop a longstanding trust with them. Instead, we have rednecks from the suburbs patrolling inner cities that they, in moments of true candor, likely refer to as ‘shitholes’. That’s gotta change.

          • Cucker “Dick” Tarlson

            My opinion of cops used to be favorable.

            But then I started working with people — mostly black men and women, along with a few poor, young white men. I heard stories of how race and income level DID make a difference in how the police treated you. Not affluent, white, and white collar? You were prey.

            And then I had an experience last fall where I came home from a tough day at work, walked my dog and made dinner, then had a drink while listening to the jazz station. I fell asleep on the sofa. My phone was in my pocket, and somehow I dialed a friend when I rolled over. Shortly after midnight, two cops were POUNDING on my front door. Still groggy, I opened the door and they essentially invited themselves in. They had flashlights in my face. They said my friend had called the police (on the non-emergency number, it turns out) and asked them to check in on me.

            These two told me to have a seat and asked a bunch of leading questions — how much had I been drinking, what drugs did I have in my system, was I suicidal. I told them I was fine, but sleepy. While was answering one’s questions, the other was poking around the living room and asked if he could take the bottle of vodka on the coffee table and my glass to the kitchen — before I could answer he walked through the house to the kitchen, putting the glass in the sink. He poured the entire bottle of vodka down the drain.

            By this time I was wide awake, alarmed, and getting pissed. I told them I was fine, stood up and walked to the front door. I gestured. They left, but kept looking around the room at my stuff on the way out.

            It wasn’t until they were gone that the fear suddenly rose up. I called my friend who was horrified that they didn’t just knock at the door and have a brief chat from outside.

            I now work with guys who made a few small mistakes as young adults — minor drug-related offenses like possession of weed or cocaine — but didn’t have the resources or the right skin color to get fair treatment under the law. They paid for their mistakes with jail time and it pretty much ruined their lives. America doesn’t give a second chance to most black men with a prison record.

            Add militarization to the equation and we’re ALL SCREWED.

          • Buford

            Exactly.

        • JCF

          Can I ask where, Michael? I used to live on the “I-94 drug route between Chicago and Detroit”! (Albion MI)

      • Mike__in_Houston

        I can’t bring myself to watch videos like this one where cops are once again living down to the reputations they so richly deserve. I hope the nurse sues the fuck out of the cops *and* the city.

        And maybe I’m missing something that is obvious to everybody else here, but why did the cop want to take blood anyway?

        • Buford

          Most likely to determine whether the driver had any drugs or alcohol in his system at the time of the crash. Again, if pertinent to the investigation, it should be easy to get a warrant for that.

          • Bad Tom

            The only relevance is to protect the cop’s butt because a police pursuit resulted in bodily harm to an innocent bystander.

        • JCF

          I hope (and trust) unconscious man’s lawyer gets this evidence thrown out.

          • Cucker “Dick” Tarlson

            I hope the patient sues the cops for threatening to violate his 4th amendment rights.

          • Hard2find

            it has now been revealed the the Man was hit by the perp that caused the wreck. He, the patient is also a part time police officer

        • romanhans

          This little detail adds fuel to the fire. The guy the policeman wanted blood from was the VICTIM of a car accident: another car t-boned him and put him in critical condition. So of course the police want to prove the poor man was drunk….

          • Bad Tom

            Or had opioids in in his system. From the paramedics actions. To save his life.
            ——-
            Even a half-competent attorney would have their ass for lunch.

        • JustDucky

          The man he wanted to draw blood from was an innocent bystander who was injured as a direct result of a police car chase. The suspect they were chasing was killed in the crash.

          The police are claiming they want to “protect” the victim. The reality is that they likely hope to smear him so they can undermine any attempt he makes to sue them for directly causing this crash and his injuries.

          • Cucker “Dick” Tarlson

            My thoughts exactly.

          • ※ Benny Cemoli ✔Gold Verified

            So after the police detective terrorized the nurse, physically pulled her out of the ER, handcuffed her and put her in the police vehicle did he then proceed to do a blood draw on the unconscious patient?

      • Judas Peckerwood

        Here’s a basic rule: If you’re a “good” cop who stands by when “bad” cops violate civil rights and commit other crimes, the you’re not a “good” cop — you’re an accomplice.

        • Buford

          Exactly. I’ll stand by ready to amend my comment and my opinion of cops just as soon as a unified chorus of this detective’s superiors and peers make a public statement condemning his actions and promising that he’ll be punished to the fullest extent available… as a means of expediting the restoration of public faith in their office.

          I’m not, however, willing to hold my breath until that happens.

        • MBear

          YASSSS!!!

        • gothambear

          Are you referring to Ivanka Trump here?

      • Gerry Fisher

        Yes, officers who are complicit like this need to be held accountable.

        For what it’s worth, I’ve had some extraordinarily good experiences with police officers. As one small example, when I worked in an outpatient community mental health clinic, I saw officers peacefully “talk down” an agitated client in our clinic foyer, convincing them to go with the paramedics to the hospital for an evaluation. These particular cops were brilliant, compassionate, and effective. (A special shout out to the Woburn, Massachusetts police department!)

        I think the main problem is that the job requires an huge amount of emotional intelligence, yet they are hiring too many cowboys. We all have bad days in which our irritability temps us to mouth off or otherwise cross lines that we wouldn’t normally cross. A cop has to refrain from crossing lines when they are upset or having a bad day and feel an impulse to use their power to cut corners. That requires skill…skill under pressure and over time. We need to require the same emotionally-balanced skills and training from our cops as we do our psychotherapists, doctors, and, YES, nurses!

        • Gerry Fisher

          I just read the WAPO article. The other officers *did* push back. This video is from the body cam of a fellow officer. This officer was ordered by his lieutenant to arrest the nurse if she refused. AND…this guy is a phlebotomist, not even a “street level” cop. Whoa!

          Lots of weird, interesting details in the full article.

        • Buford

          I appreciate your examples of cops doing the right thing, but my (admittedly cynical) viewpoint is that what you describe is them simply doing their job the correct way. They don’t deserve hero status simply for not assaulting or killing someone. Also, while I do sincerely appreciate those who do their jobs correctly, I still don’t see them collectively denouncing the others in their ranks who have been exposed for wrongdoing. THAT’s the problem… that wall of protective silence is complicity, and even these good ones who sincerely want to help others tend to avoid making waves when their peers commit what should be crimes.

          • Do you think it’s easy to NOT become somewhat cynical and even paranoid when dealing with rapists, murderers, gangs and thugs on a frequent basis?

            Cops are not some odd race of humans. They’re citizens who signed up for a job and have to deal with the dregs of society more than most of us ever will.

            I’m not excusing the bad apples. I’m suggesting there are decent ones out there who deserve to not be despised because of the actions of others they don’t even know.

          • Buford

            Those decent ones need to be vocal, en masse, to out the bad ones in their midst. I don’t see that happening… I see the opposite. Until that changes, they are all complicit and they all deserve the scorn and distrust of the public that they are paid to protect and serve. When that changes, however, I’ll be the first to praise them.

            Per your other point, though… I’d suggest that while cops DO deal with rapists, murderers, gangs, etc in their daily routines, the percentage of criminals relative to the percentage of perfectly innocent, regular civilians they encounter is very low. Yet, from my experience, they treat everyone as if they are likely criminals… that’s the issue.

          • Silver_Witch

            No one is forced to take the job of being a police office. If the job is too much for them they need to find another job. Isn’t that what everyone says about minimum wage people….just get a better job?

            I have no empathy for bad cops or for cops burned out by their job. Quit and find something that does not cause one to become irrational, cruel or hateful.

      • Pluto Animus

        The endless series of videos of cops abusing people have presented countless police with the opportunity to show what good people they are:

        “Because my department protected a police officer who is a threat to the community, I hereby resign.”

        As far as I know, it hasn’t happened even once.

        The logical conclusion: The so-called ‘good cops’ are perfectly fine making life easy for the ‘bad cops’.

        • Buford

          Agree. Also, I get that we all work with bad apples… racism, sexism, dishonesty, etc… that we might decide to ignore rather than rock the boat. However, in a cop’s case, those bad apples can literally ruin/take people’s lives. If there’s a cop who likes to tell racist jokes, he needs to be outed by his peers and removed from this profession. There is simply too much at stake for someone with such poor judgment to have so much authority.

      • Silver_Witch

        Not one of them came to her aid or tried to stop a COP out of control. No one. I have known all my life that cops are just people…my father was a cop…but WE must hold them to a higher standard or be at their whim.

        • Buford

          Well said – thanks.

      • seththayer

        Please rethink your position here. It is exactly the same view that all Muslims are terrorists simply because they are Muslim.

        • Buford

          That’s an idiotic assertion. Muslims are quick to denounce, en masse, the actions of the radicals that commit atrocities in the name of Islam. That admirable behavior is exactly the opposite of what we’re suggesting is the problem with cops today… namely, that when the bad cops behave irresponsibly or criminally, these mythical ‘good ones’ simply fall into line and choose not to make waves rather than take a firm stand to remove them from their ranks. Hence, they are all bad. They are complicit.

          Nobody here is criticizing cops by prejudging them, assuming, or overly generalizing. These criticisms are based on actual experiences and facts. But, I’m nothing if not open to learning… so if you can provide examples wherein a cop was caught behaving irresponsibly and was swiftly and publicly denounced by his superiors and peers as they called for the cop’s resignation or prosecution, I’ll consider it.

      • MikeMarkCA

        Drew all cops, there you have an unbiased opinion peace.

        • Buford

          Put down the meth pipe, Champ.

    • Gerry Fisher

      >Karma is on her side

      Not just karma. The law should help her out with her impending lawsuit as well.

    • ChrisInKansas

      I have had virtually no direct contact with cops in my entire life. But I would not personally trust one with much of anything.

    • John30013

      Furthermore, that blood was collected without a warrant, in clear violation of the 4th amendment. It will be inadmissible in court. It’s also likely the cop has screwed his own career.

      Good on this nurse, though.

    • tim870

      Also as a nurse, I agree 100%. That idiot can kiss both his jobs goodbye!

    • Gest2016

      Fucking thug. My heart is racing hearing how he treated a NURSE, some of whom have saved my life. I hope this detective rots. Or maybe doesn’t get the life saving care he needs after a head on.

    • ※ Benny Cemoli ✔Gold Verified

      So I have one question. After the police guy terrorized the nurse for refusing to let him do a blood draw and physically dragged the woman out, handcuffed her and put her in the police car. Did he then proceed to do a blood draw on the innocent victim?

  • Joseph Miceli

    They fucked up this time. They arrested a WHITE BLOND NURSE!!! This isn’t Nazi Germany. This kind of thing is regrettably all to common for Black Americans, but even your average Fox News watcher is going to have a problem with this. I hope officer friendly enjoys the civil suit.

    • Michael White

      In fucking Utah

      • Lars Littlefield

        Yes, it is. And just imagine how proud we are.

        • Michael White

          as we all are of the bad ones. Utah is an amazingly beautiful state and I have always enjoyed visiting. I was so surprised by this.

    • Statistics Palin

      I hope the nurse is a Mormon so that the trial will be even worse for the cop.

      • m_lp_ql_m

        They’re likely both Mormon.

        • Scott Carpenter

          And the cop’s bishop will testify in court about how worthy and godly he is.

    • Jeffg166

      Plus whatever “evidence” he got will be inadmissible.

      • popebuck1

        Speaking of which – the person in question wasn’t even the suspect in the hit-and-run, but rather the victim! There was absolutely NO urgent reason to draw blood right that second, and the cop can’t claim to have been “protecting” ANYONE by insisting. Way out of control.

    • Cipher

      As that other cop in today’s news told the agitated passenger: You’re white.
      We only kill black people.

    • Uncle Mark

      Dumbass Nazi goon. Even after getting his blood sample, anything that helps them solve this case will now be inadmissible in court. Any lawyer worth his salt will be able to fuck over this Nazi’s case. So at the end of the day, the blood sample will not help the case…with the cop and the city getting sued for unnecessary brutality and civil rights violations, and the cop getting fired or suspended

      • Joseph Miceli

        It was obvious that the cop was simply frustrated and he took it out on her. HE needs to be arrested!

        • The_Wretched

          She was disrespecting his authoritah! And obstructing his use of power.

          • Rambie

            edit: his *abuse* of power

      • Silver_Witch

        The person he was trying to draw blood on was NOT the criminal – he was the victim. This cop only wanted his blood hoping they could imply he was high and smear him to protect the police department.

        • Uncle Mark

          My point is that such evidence and anything arrived through such evidence would be inadmissible in court, since it was illegally obtained. Furthermore, since the subject was unconscious and unable to give permission, taking the blood sample could be considered an assault upon the patient in addition to a violation of his rights and HIPAA laws

    • WildwoodGuy

      And not just a Nurse! She was a FUCKING OLYMPIAN! In TWO different Olympics, if I remember from the article!

  • AJA

    This cop was just on a power trip. Even if he HAD been allowed to take the blood sample, it would immediately be thrown out of court due to lack of warrant/consent. This motherfucker just wanted his way, no questions asked.

    Don’t trust the cops, kiddies. It’s not their job to protect you, it’s their job to make money for the city/county/state.

    • Tomcat

      That is the truth completely.

    • The_Wretched

      It wouldn’t have been thrown out unless the defendant got a good attorney who had time to question the cop and make a motion to the court.

      There’s also a disturbing trend in SCOTUS allowing otherwise illegally collected information if it ‘didn’t make a difference.’ That’s been allowing bootstrapping – he appeared passed out from alcohol and we confirmed it with a blood test – objection illegally obtained blood – overruled, they already knew he was drinking from being passed out….etc.

    • danolgb

      It gets worse. The person they wanted a sample from was an innocent truck driver. The Utah Highway Patrol pursued a suspect into a dangerous canyon where he struck the truck driver head on. It killed the suspect and sent the truck driver to the hospital with severe burns. The only reason why I can imagine they wanted a sample of the truck driver was to try to pin some blame on him for the inevitable lawsuit.

      • The_Wretched

        That’s just evil & cover-upy.

      • AJA

        That makes total sense, and is somehow even skeezier than I thought.

    • juanjo54

      Well it should be tossed out. However I have seen enough police reports to know how this often goes. The cop tosses her out and then his report states that the accused was conscious and the cop asked him if he could take his blood. The suspect said that he could do so. He then took the sample in a medically acceptable manner. I did one of these cases back in 2013 where the video showed the cop and two buddies holding the guy down on the floor after engaging in a wrestling match and knocking him off the gurney he had been on. As two cops stand on his arm the third cop draws the blood off a filthy dirty arm [due to the wresting match on the floor]. No disinfectant swab, no band-aid, no nothing. Thew cop said that after they subdued the suspect, he then agreed to the draw. Trail judge [former DA] agreed but the appellate division did not.

      • The_Wretched

        Thank you for your legal work and telling us about it here. We can see from the comments that even with a healthy does of skepticism, people don’t fully appreciate just how abuse is part of the system and how it takes effort to remedy even clear cases of abuse.

  • Blake Mason

    The hospital better have her back on this.

    • djlee

      They do.

  • TexasBoy

    Cop needs to be fired, and go to jail for assault. But the Mormon church cult would never allow that because White Jesus and Joseph Smith.

    • Chicago joe

      And the uniformed doofuses standing around should be fired as well.

  • bobbyjoe

    I smell a presidential pardon! (Probably next week).

    • Tomcat

      A pardon will not stop civil suits.

      • bobbyjoe

        Which doesn’t mean it will stop Trump from trying.

      • lattebud

        An accepted pardon implies one is guilty, making civil suits easier to win

        • Paul

          This is why I find the whole parson of Arpaio so strange. By accepting the pardon from 45 he admitted guilt and left himself open to all kinds of legal problems. For instance the legal residents who were arrested and held in jail and the woman who was handcuffed while giving birth.I don’t think 45 will be footing any of those bills.

          • 2guysnamedjoe

            “I’ll be dead by the the time it gets through the courts,” Arpaio said to himself, ” so I don’t care.”

          • UrsusArctos

            Here’s hoping the cases proceed quickly AND Arpaio is right.

  • Statistics Palin

    This is assault and false imprisonment.

    • Chicago joe

      Battery and likely a few others as well.

    • The_Wretched

      And civil rights violations under the color of law.

      • (((GC)))

        LOCK HIM UP!!!

  • Mike C

    This is why they fight body cams, because once you give people this kind of power they simply cannot help themselves.

  • Butch

    OK….the NBC headline for this story at least seems to imply that the nurse was at fault. I’m not “glad” to read this correction but glad to know the nurse wasn’t refusing to treat a patient, which is what I took from the NBC headline.

    • Michael White

      She was following hospital policy and had the supervisor on the phone (chicken shit supervisor) supporting her. All on tape.

  • pgarayt

    Well at least he didn’t beat her. It’s long over due for the police to be tested for steroids. I believe if they were we would at least have part of the answer to their aggressive behaviour and move towards, people are the enemy.

  • Tomcat

    More law suits for the cops to pass on to the taxpayers.

  • Max_1

    “INTERNAL INVESTIGATION” = Cover up committee

  • This is Trump’s America. The rules no longer apply, and anyone who says differently WILL be dragged away. I sincerely hope this nurse not only sues the officer personally, and the force, but is given some kind of recognition for doing her job to the best of her abilities!

  • Skeptical_Inquirer

    Besides the cops, she also needs to sue the hospital security guys for just standing there like a fucking lump. Assholes.

    There is a very nasty pattern where cops do what they want then the city has to cough up literally millions of dollars with the cop, at most, being told he’s fired. AT MOST. AFAIK, the cop is not bankrupted, and often kept on the payroll. It’s a total expression of privilege where we are literally paying for them to do whatever and protect the actual perps from the consequences of their actions.

    • Phillip in L.A.

      Exactly right. The CITY is responsible for paying judgments against their local Police Department

  • Ninja0980

    Do cops not realize crap like this is why folks don’t trust police at all, especially when other officers stood by and let this happen?

    • Skeptical_Inquirer

      Often they’re like a gang who is being paid to chase off the other gangs.

    • 2guysnamedjoe

      Just substitute “thugs” for “cops,” “police,” and “officers,” and there’s your answer.

  • SoCalGal20

    Well another donation to the ACLU is in order!

  • Tomcat

    There once was a time cops applying for job were given psychological exam.
    Now they just hire men that were in wars so they know for sure they are nuts.

  • Lars Littlefield

    This stuff happens all of the time in the Behave State. Reminds me of the time the SLC Police showed up at a friend’s house trying to serve a warrant. My friend wasn’t home. But despite a sign warning “Be Ware of Dog” on the chain link fence enclosing his yard, the police opened the gate and shot the dog without provocation. And as you might expect, the warrant wasn’t even for my friend. It was for a neighbor across the street. After two years trying to get justice in court my friend was told by judges, twice, (he appealed the first ruling), there was nothing to be done. He appealed and lost. Didn’t even get an apology from the police department. Y’all come visit us, ya hear?

    • Tomcat

      Yeah, they train their dogs to be vicious but shoot your dog for defending their territory.

      • kareemachan

        Or for just wagging their tail and barking.

    • Schlukitz

      Unfuckingbelievable!

  • bambinoitaliano

    This is what happen when a society allows religion doctrine to seep into civilization where individuals arbitrary pick and choose what law to obey and what law to dismiss.

  • Max_1

    Who protects that community FROM the police?

  • JWC

    The police forces in the US needs a reality check. REALLY they do, Its not all cops but a lot are letting this “authority gig” go to far

  • Ragnar Lothbrok

    Take that fuckheads badge! Today!!.

  • Tom G

    So regardless of the results, the victim is going to be found innocent. Hope these cops are all out of jobs.

    • Tomcat

      In this case there are at least two victims. The nurse and the perp.

  • m_lp_ql_m

    But what about all the good cops? /s

    • Tomcat

      That really is not sarcasm, These guys give them a bad name.
      There are good cops that try very hard to protect and serve.

      • m_lp_ql_m

        Then where are they when shit like this happens?

  • TexasBoy

    Trump’s comment is that the cop grabbed her in the wrong place.

  • TimJ

    I watched the entire long version of this. Aside from the outrageousness, I was struck by how fat all the cops and security people are.

    • Lars Littlefield

      It’s Utah. We’re famous for being the land of the lard bucket butts.

      • TimJ

        Don’t feel too bad. I’m from Wisconsin.

      • UrsusArctos

        We grow our Bubbas and Bubbettes XXXL here in MS too.

        • Lars Littlefield

          There’s a drag queen in SLC who is known as Sister Mavis Rasmussen. She’s a dead ringer for a Mormon matron, chubby, bad hair, atrocious eye glasses, wears ill-fitting tight skirted suits, giant handbag, cross trainers … she’s delightful. She’s the proud PFLAG mother of her gay son who has attended BYU for 12 years, majoring in musical theatre, (someday he’ll graduate). Her stand up schtick is to use the local Mormon argot and Mormon beliefs, twisting them just enough to dig deep at the irony and hypocrisy of the LDS. And she’s known around the world for her famous cookie salad recipe.

          Cookie Salad Ingredients
          1 large package of Oreos
          1 large package of Chips Ahoy
          1 large package of Lorna Doons
          1 large bag of multi-color marshmallow bits
          1 large container of Rocky Road ice cream
          1 large container of Dream Whip
          1 large package of gummy worms
          1 extra large box of Junior Mints

          Crumble the cookies into a giant bowl, add marshmallows, gummy bears, Junior Mints, mix well with Dream Whip and Rocky Road ice cream. Put the bowl in the freezer for two hours.
          While waiting for the salad to congeal, eat the large package of Lorna Doons.

          • Schlukitz

            Lord a mercy!

          • Lars Littlefield

            Yesterday, as I drove into town I heard an interview on NPR with some woman in the flyover states who gleefully shared her recipe for cookie salad. I always thought the concept was a joke. Go figure. It’s real.

    • That_Looks_Delicious

      Mmmmmmmm donuts.

      • stevenj
      • Treant

        Yeah, but I had a donut yesterday and thoroughly enjoyed it. It was the first donut I’ve had in, probably, two years.

        Donut enjoyment can be done safely. 🙂

        • UrsusArctos

          They’re a gateway, believe me. /snark

          • perversatile

            Face down on a kitchen table, passed out and covered in Nutella, an unsupervised toddler licks a discarded spoon…

            Tonight on Lifetime, the tragic story of a mother’s addiction
            to the Big N. ”It Started With a Buy One Get One Free”
            starring Lonnie Anderson.

    • m_lp_ql_m

      I guess they never have to give chase.

    • Schlukitz

      That what happens when they take the cops off the beat where they used to get a decent amount of exercise and put them in $105,960 Ford Police Interceptor where they can stuff their faces with Mickey Dee loaded cheese burgers and sugared-up Starbucks mocha lattes in air conditioned comfort to their heart’s content.

      And you wonder why they are all fat?

  • Cipher

    This is what the Hospital’s Risk Management Department is there for. The nurse did the right thing. The RM Department should have been the stop/interface for law enforcement. Only upon its approval/direction should the nurse be asked to draw blood. I hope she does sue.

  • Ninja0980

    https://twitter.com/JoyAnnReid/status/903622500763959306
    So true Joy.
    Blacks, latinos, LGBT folks.
    We can all give straight white folks a nice history lesson in why for many of us, we don’t trust police at all or find it amazing when police officers or District Attorneys are discovered to have planted evidence, perjured themselves etc.
    Coming from someone who has close friends in Law Enforcement, all I’ll say is this.
    They have been our enemies in many more cases then our friends, simple as that.

    • Tomcat

      Then Joy, tell them to get their butts out and vote. Too few showed up for 2016 presidential election.

    • Schlukitz

      As a previous resident of NYC for many more years than I care to admit to, and as the victim of a 1965 illegal drag-net in which I and over165 LGBTQ people were arrested simply for being in the wrong place at the wrong time, I got to spend the night in the infamous Tombs at 100 Centre Street. I was also present at the infamous Stonewall raid and uprising as well.

      Back in the day, the LGBTQ community had more to fear from the cops than we did from the haters and the homophobes. New York Cities Finest were never our friends.

      • Cucker “Dick” Tarlson

        Thank you for standing up for justice then, and thank you for reminding us now. We owe you a great deal for what you did.

        You’re a hero.

        • Schlukitz

          Thank you for the kind words, Sir.

          No hero I. Just someone who feels that all human beings should be treated fairly and equally.

  • kareemachan

    So… the cop was going to take blood samples? Is he even trained to do so?

    ETA: I guess he was. The Tribune article is interesting – the cop cited a law that has been unconstitutional since 2007, and said he’d only bring certain patients to this hospital after the incident as an ambulance driver and ‘take the good ones’ elsewhere – which could very well endanger their lives.

    • TimJ

      Yes, he is a trained phlebotomist. All the more reason he should know the law.

    • William

      That should be enough to have him transferred to driving garbage trucks.

  • Jonathan Smith
  • cheakamus

    Last weekend, my brother-in-law, developmentally disabled and diabetic, who was visiting from Ohio, failed to return home as planned after an evening in the park flying his kite. My wife went looking for him but did not see his car in the parking lot. On the way into the park she had seen a couple of police cars. She phoned me from the parking lot asking what I thought she should do. Should she stop on the way out and talk to the police officers? I told her to call 911 but under no circumstances to stop and talk to the officers in person. Sad to say, this is the new reality in America — ordinary citizens are justifiably afraid of those who are paid to protect them.

    • jmax

      This gives me a knot in my stomach. I don’t know if I should scream or cry.

    • Phillip in L.A.

      Thank you for posting, cheakamus! This is a chilling story, for sure

  • Ninja0980

    One more thing on this…
    Folks say he’ll likely get into trouble because it was a pretty white lady.
    I’d say the fact he felt comfortable doing it to her in public with others watching speak volumes about how he treats other groups when there are no cameras around.

    • leastyebejudged

      Not only that, where are the people who’s job it is to actually CHARGE this asshole with the crimes he’s committed ?

      And why do people just accept that he will not be charged ?

      Are we going to continue to pretend the police aren’t a corrupt criminal class ?

  • juanjo54

    There is no legal doubt that this cop has violated the law. Back in 2015 or so Missouri tried to challenge this in a case called Missouri v. McNeeley, there was another case in Minnesota. The Supreme Court stated what it had said previously around 50 years ago, a blood draw violates the 4th Amendment if done without a warrant. While the court said there were exceptions they do not apply here.

    So he arrested a nurse who was doing her duty – that is called a false arrest, and a false imprisonment under color of authority. [I am getting ready to do a trial on a case involving false imprisonment against a sports stadium and team which hired cops as security so I have a little familiarity with this area of law.] So the nurse has a lawsuit against the city. The blood sample cannot be used against the unconscious man in court and in all likelihood the DA won’t even bring the case. He also has a civil rights action against the city for the cop’s action.

    • jmax

      And another sad thing is if the unconscious man was guilty of a crime and there was a good reason for the police to need the blood sample, this idiot cop in all likelihood just destroyed the case.

  • justmeeeee

    He should probably wonder how it will affect his on-duty job as well.

  • Tulle Christensen

    Pretty sure taking his blood without consent or a warrant is a violation of HIPPAA

    • The_Wretched

      I just read a primer on that point. A yup. The facts here don’t match the exceptions to disclosure to the cops.

    • m_lp_ql_m

      The gut on that cop is certainly in accordance with HIPPO.

    • Treant

      It is–any sample sans warrant or written consent violates the law–and the cop could be charged. And probably will be if the story makes the stink I think it will.

      Fortunately, our Heroine Nurse is in the clear on that point as she did exactly the right thing.

      • billbear1961

        God BLESS her!!

      • CharlestonDave

        I speculate that had she failed to protect her patient from the unlawful cop, she would have exposed herself to a liability for failing to perform her duty of care. Brave lady!

    • juanjo54

      It is definitely a violation of the 4th Amendment. Missouri v. McNeely, 569 U.S. 141 (2013), was a case decided by United States Supreme Court, on appeal from the Supreme Court of Missouri, regarding exceptions to the Fourth Amendment to the United States Constitution under exigent circumstances. The United States Supreme Court ruled that police must generally obtain a warrant before subjecting a drunken-driving suspect to a blood test, and that the natural metabolism of blood alcohol does not establish a per se exigency that would justify a blood draw without consent.

      • CharlestonDave

        Juanjo, thanks for (as you always do) explaining and citing instead of just asserting.

      • Phillip in L.A.

        True enough, juanjo54, although there was not even a drunken-driving suspect here! There is NO suspect–he is dead (killed by Police in “pursuit”)

        • Schlukitz

          As I theorized in an earlier post, it may be possible that the officer and the PD are trying to make it look like the driver of the larger truck who is in the hospital was DUI so that they can blame him for the accident instead of the officer who was pursuing the dead driver of the smaller truck?

          Something just smells rotten in Denmark when a police officer goes to such illegal lengths just to draw blood from the innocent victim of an accident.

          Sorry, but I think that police department was up to no good and may even have pressured the officer to get that blood draw at any cost.

          • Phillip in L.A.

            I don’t disagree, and I’m not sure why you are saying “Sorry,” as if I did. I think you might have misunderstood my post, or the import of it, which was that the “Detective”‘s actions were even more strange, since there was no suspect. So, I am in essence saying, your theory could certainly be possibly correct.

            [Edit: Added: I thought my other posts in this thread on the subject made my position pretty clear….]

          • Schlukitz

            Oh my. My bad. I had not meant to give you the impression that I was disagreeing with you. I was, in fact, totally agreeing with you. I assure you that I understood perfectly what you were saying.

            My prefacing the last paragraph with the word “sorry” was meant to indicate that I do not believer that the police department is not without culpability in this matter.

            I am sure that I could have worded my reply to you in a more succinct manner. I am old. My sight is poor and it’s been a very long day for me.

            My sincere apologies for any confusion I may have generated with my badly worded reply.

          • Phillip in L.A.

            No need for any apology

          • Schlukitz

            Cool beans, dude. Nuckle bump.

  • canoebum

    Any guesses on how many lawyers are trying to call her to allow them to file lawsuits on her behalf against the police, the county and the officers individually involved? Wrongful arrest, assault, violating the 4th Amendment rights of the patient, the list goes on. I would expect the hospital to file suit against the police as well.

    • Lars Littlefield

      It’s The University Hospital, part of The University of Utah. It’s owned and run by the State.I doubt they’ll do shit. And knowing Utah as I do, I’m certain her boss, the hospital administration and her peers are advising her not to rock the boat.

      • canoebum

        Well, that’s a fucking shame.

        • leastyebejudged

          The medical profession shines through once again.

    • Phillip in L.A.

      If any lawyers are calling her, they are acting unethically. (See, e.g., Cal. Rules Professional Conduct, Rule 1-400(A), (C)).

      • canoebum

        You’re a funny guy!

        • Phillip in L.A.

          Funny ha-ha, or funny strange? 🙂

          • canoebum

            Funny, as in some law would actually prevent lawyers from ambulance chasing.

          • Phillip in L.A.

            Yeah, I know, it sounds weird to laymen (and probably many lawyers, too, unfortunately)! I couldn’t believe it was a real ethics rule, until I had to take the Multi-State Professional Responsibility Exam (MPRE), which is still required for admission to the Bars of many States.

  • The_Wretched

    Folks – the comments about the blood draw being futile because it’ll get tossed aren’t right. Stuff only gets tossed when someone can prove the collection was illegal or inapropriate and raises it up to a court. That all happens a long time after you’re in jail and a record of your arrest is created. It also takes a legal professional looking out for you and some of the most overworked and underpaid people in the legal system are public defenders. And that’s assuming you quality for one. Not everyone does.

    It’s critical that your rights are respected before you have to argue for them.

    And the more you know about our criminal justice system, the more you’ll see it’s a farce. A systemically racist farce at that but that’s a point for a different day.

    • Phillip in L.A.

      The issue here is more complicated, although I don’t disagree with what you’ve said, The_Wretched. There will be no criminal prosecution for the accident, because the driver was killed in the “pursuit.” If there is a criminal prosecution of the officer, the results of the blood test are not relevant to his violating the Civil Rights of the nurse. So, there will be no Motion to Suppress; as someone pointed out above, this “Detective” was trying to illegally (apparently) collect evidence that MIGHT bolster the City’s/Police’s defense in a CIVIL CASE against them, for botching everything. (But see, e.g., Cal. Evid. Code § 352; Fed.R.Evid. 403 [The court may exclude relevant evidence if its probative value is substantially outweighed by a danger of unfair prejudice, confusing the issues, misleading the jury, undue delay, wasting time, etc.]

      The only scenario I could imagine where the RESULTS of the blood-draw might be relevant and subject to a Motion to Suppress, are if the VICTIM is criminally prosecuted for resisting arrest, interfering with investigation, obstruction, etc., and that seems very unlikely.

  • edrex

    that reminds me to up my donation to the aclu.

    • Mike_in_the_Tundra

      I can’t really up my monthly donation, but more power to you.

  • zhera

    Unbelievable!

    No, wait. TOTALLY BELIEVABLE! Fuck the Constitution, right? Does the Detective even care that any evidence found from this unlawful search will be dismissable in court?

    I hope the nurse sues the fuck out of the Detective and the PD.

    • Xuuths

      And the cop from her own hospital that was watching it while doing nothing.

  • Travis Morrow

    So I guess I need to carry a weapon to protect myself and others from police officers who abduct law abiding nurses? At least the Slave Catcher Patrolman is still working. Wouldn’t want orcs to lose their fucking jobs.

  • Ken M

    Keep it simple. Why was the blood even needed? Did I miss that in the article?

    • Tomcat

      Probably dui accident.

      • The_Wretched

        Almost certainly not DUI.

        From the link, the cops were chasing a pickup truck. The pick up truck ran into a bigger truck head on. The 2nd driver was burned in the accident. The 2nd driver is the one the cop tried to take the blood from.

        • Tomcat

          DUI is only reason they can request blood draw.

          • The_Wretched

            The ‘bad cop’ was on a fishing expedition.

          • Tread

            Yeah, his lieutenant needed to press charges against someone since the original suspect died. That way there would be less paperwork for them why a suspect died in a car chase.

          • Schlukitz

            Police have been known to use a “throw-down” weapon to make it look like a suspect that they just shot and killed was armed and a threat to the officer’s as justification for shooting him dead.

            What is this officer trying to prove here by making such a grandstand play for a sample of the accident victim’s blood and what purpose would that blood serve if, indeed, there was no alcohol in it?

            And that raises another question. Can a blood sample be tampered with and made to look like the innocent driver of the bigger truck was DUI and in so doing, transfer the blame for the death of the driver of the smaller truck onto him instead?

            A police officer unlawfully drawing blood and testing it at a police lab facility, the results can be anything they say it is. Seems to me that the only people who should have access to and the testing of it should be at a private or independent laboratory that has no axe to grind and is in no way connected to the police department to assure that the results of that test are impartial, untampered with and factual.

            Sounds to me like this cop has his own axe to grind which is why he was trying to be the DA, The Judge and the Jury all rolled into one.

  • DrRobY

    How could this even be possible? I mean she’s white!

    • Tomcat

      Could be she is gay????

      • leastyebejudged

        I didn’t get that from the vids but I’m kinda clueless that way.

    • zhera

      I know you’re being sarcastic, but… this guy clearly has issues with being told ‘NO!’ by a woman. It makes me wonder what other times he has ignored a ‘no’ and assaulted someone.

  • Tomcat

    Is anyone other than me having JMG freezing today?

    • Natty Enquirer

      It was bad for me yesterday but working today. Probably a CDN issue.

  • Natty Enquirer

    In the state of Utah, draws of blood without warrant or consent are allowed if probable cause and exigent circumstances can be shown by the state. The place to pitch this battle is in a courtroom, not a hospital corridor, although it makes great drama.

    • billbear1961

      Tell the goddamned fascist cop THAT!!

      Did the FUCKING cop explain himself, attempt to justify what he wanted to do?!

      No, he just insisted he be allowed to proceed, without explaining himself, and the BULLYING piece of fascist SHIT snapped when the nurse RIGHTLY stood her ground, and he assaulted and wrongfully arrested her, a polite nurse who was defending an unconscious patient’s constitutional RIGHTS!!

      • StudioTodd

        Exactly. This had nothing to do with policing. This was an asshole with a hair-trigger temper physically attacking an innocent woman because he was angry at her for not doing what she was told.

        Anyone without a badge doing anything remotely similar would have been immediately arrested and charged with assault and/or kidnapping.

    • coram nobis

      Yes: it would have been easy enough for the cops to go to a magistrate and get a warrant that day. The patient wasn’t going anywhere, and the suspect was dead — and, in fact, with no suspect it makes this kind of criminal evidence gathering even more peculiar.

      • Phillip in L.A.

        ‘with no suspect it makes this kind of criminal evidence gathering even more peculiar’

        DING! This is roughly my point, as well!

    • Phillip in L.A.

      “In the state of Utah, draws of blood without warrant or consent are
      allowed if probable cause and exigent circumstances can be shown by the
      state.”

      True as worded–as a general proposition of law–but does it apply to VICTIMS? Was there “probable cause” to believe the unconscious truck-driver had committed a crime?

  • Ken M
  • Sean Williams

    And no one did anything to stop it. We are slowly giving up our civil liberties. First to people of color, now to medical professionals.

    We stand up now or there will be no one when they turn their eye to us.

    • Jeffrey

      People didn’t do anything to stop it because he was an armed authority figure capable of shooting them. Don’t blame the people.

      • billbear1961

        They did NOTHING!!

        They stood there while that FASCIST Gestapo agent ASSAULTED that nurse for DOING HER JOB!!

        Does NOTHING upset ANYONE in this GODDAMNED country, ANYMORE?!

        • Jeffrey

          I’m very upset by it. But I’m upset at the right person, the cop. The other guy appears to be hospital security or something. I don’t know. But either way they’re going to pay because they did it to a blonde lady on camera. Big mistake.

      • billbear1961

        They were OFFICERS, and they did NOTHING!!

        This fucking goddamned country DISGUSTS me!!

        This is Trumpist AmeriKa, an evil SHITHOLE of a POLICE STATE!!

    • ChrisMorley

      Don’t you mean “The police are slowly taking away the civil liberties …. from people of color, now …. nursing professionals”?

      • Sean Williams

        I meant what I said. The police work for us. Our inaction is allowing this to happen. We are not their prisoners.

        • ChrisMorley

          Sorry. Doh. Now I do see what you mean.

          I got waylaid into thinking you meant we were handing power to people of color, in a racist sense, which didn’t fit at all with your comment history, and then I couldn’t see what you were getting at.

  • billbear1961

    THAT FASCIST BASTARD BROKE THE LAW!!

    That nurse was defending a patient’s constitutional RIGHTS–she did NOTHING illegal!!

    Will anyone–ANYONE–in this godforsaken BANANA REPUBLIC defend the RULE OF LAW?!

  • thrunch

    Cop belongs in jail and should never be allowed to work as a cop again. This isn’t a case of “good intention” or grey area regarding Constitutional rights.

    • leastyebejudged

      And the “good cops” standing around scratching their asses ?

      And the DA ? Too busy sucking cop union cock.

      We investigated ourselves and found nothing wrong, again.

  • david fairfield

    Trump is LOVING this. He enabled, actually INVITED this behavior from law enforcement and HATE groups. This is HIS fault and he needs to be TAKEN DOWN…NOW!

    • billbear1961

      EXACTLY!

      He’s TOXIC!

      He’s destroying this democracy!

      It’s time for massive and relentless protests to DRIVE him from office!

      • david fairfield

        Ha! I was seriously going to say at the end “how’s that, Billbear”….I should have. And hello….: )

  • High Ranking Official
    • stevenj

      Not all cops have a small penis. I have first hand experience with this.

  • kaydenpat

    They’re getting bolder.

    • billbear1961

      Exactly–this is the TRUMP effect!

      You are losing your democracy!

  • Rocco

    The jack booted thug on a power trip should lose his job. I hope she sues.

  • Ish

    Again and again and again, fuck the police.

  • Adam Stevens

    This will be an expensive display of toxic masculinity for the city of Salt Lake City and its taxpayers.

    Hope it was worth it, Detective Dipshit.

  • William

    In a just society, the cop would be learning about his new exciting career in fast food.

    • -M-

      as a trustee in the prison cafeteria.

  • netxtown

    That wasn’t a cop – that was a power hungry bully with ‘authority’ who now needs to see the full reach of the law kick his ass clean out of the police force – and right into the chair marked ‘defendant’. Hopefully that nurse will then drag his ass into civil court and sue him for every dime he might ever earn.

    dirty sonofabitch.

  • BlindBill

    She will sue and Salt Lake City will pay in a big way ….. And the “soon to be former” policeman will move to a new city and be a mall cop or something

    • Mikey

      or director of Homeland Security.

  • billbear1961

    This country is a DISGRACE–it is SHAMING itself before the eyes of the world!

    I hope that nurse sues the living CHRIST out of that swaggering fascist SHIT!!

  • Lars Littlefield

    Over at SLTrib.com Disqus show more than 1,600+ comments regarding this incident. Police Officer Payne has struck a nerve with the Saints. There is even a call to write the EMS company he moonlights for and have him fired.

  • trouble94114

    Wow, just wow. That’s going to cost that police department a bundle, and probably cause every case investigated by that detective to be reviewed. I wouldn’t be surprised to hear that he’s decided to retire to spend more time with his family.

    • billbear1961

      That NAZI should spend some time in a PRISON CELL.

      • ElenorRigby

        and both the nurse and patient can sue him and the police department. For a lot. That cop is done.

        • billbear1961

          I hope she takes them to the CLEANERS!

          • coram nobis

            She should also seek court orders to make this conduct or policy stop. And it wouldn’t be a bad idea if her employer — the hospital and/or the university — joins her lawsuit.

      • RJ Bone

        Don’t even give him a cell.

    • coram nobis

      One of the evidentiary searches in the civil trial would be to see what policies, written or unwritten, foster this kind of conduct, and what training — or lack of it — was a proximate cause. One of the remedies in the verdict should be a court order making this department, or maybe state police law, reform.

      • UrsusArctos

        ‘snot going to happen with the current evil elf running the US DoJ US Atty Gen.

        • coram nobis

          You mean Jefferson Davis Beauregard Sessions?

          • UrsusArctos

            In the moldering flesh.

    • Stev84

      It’s not going to cost them anything. Any settlement comes out of the city budget.

  • ElenorRigby

    Fuck. The. Police.

  • SFHarry

    The other cops were there witnessing a crime and did nothing to stop it. They should all be at the very least fired.

  • ColdCountry

    So according to the article, when another officer asked the detective why he didn’t get a warrant, he said there was no probably cause. (The unconscious man was a victim of a speeder they were chasing, had done nothing wrong and was not under arrest.) The officer’s lieutenant told him to arrest the nurse if she obstructed him.

    Houston, we have a problem.

    • BobSF_94117

      I wonder if the cop was afraid he had had contact with the victim’s blood.

      • Phillip in L.A.

        Interesting point, BobSF_94117! This could possibly account for his rather odd and unlawful behaviour.

        • thatotherjean

          If (and it’s a huge if) that were the case, he could have explained, and the nurse could have told him the proper procedure. Another hour or two wouldn’t have mattered.

          • Phillip in L.A.

            Absolutely, thatotherjean! I was not in any way condoning or lessening the enormity of the “Detective”‘s apparently criminal behaviour

      • ColdCountry

        Maybe, but the guy was badly burned, and burns don’t bleed, though there may have been other injuries. Guy sounds like a bit of a dick, as does his lieutenant, however.

    • leastyebejudged

      The problem is these pigs are criminals and so are the district attorney and prosecutor.

      Shit is the way it is because of SYSTEMIC corruption.

      No reason these cops shouldn’t be sitting their fat asses in fucking JAIL.

  • licuado de platano

    Are cops properly trained to draw blood?

    • coram nobis

      They do it every day.

      Oh — you mean, draw blood in a medical sense? Probably not.

    • danolgb

      Apparently, the SLPD has a group of detectives who are trained phlebotomist. I don’t know if this is normal for other police departments.

      • William

        Austin, Texas has officers trained to draw blood. I’m not sure if they still do it.

    • leastyebejudged

      Loving how the medical community permitted this to happen.

      And how it gets a pass for their bullshit, again.

  • Talisman

    There is no Constitution in the dumpster.

  • lymis

    anybody know if the asshole cop got his blood sample? Did the next nurse stand up as well? Did the clown even go back in?

    ABSOLUTELY good for her. But did assaulting her cow everyone else, or did they continue to defend the rights of their patient?

  • ghostofjanetflaneur

    Police state.

  • Phillip in L.A.

    Assault, battery, false imprisonment, and abuse of power under colour of authority. If this “Detective” wants to keep his job, it will take a minor miracle

    • Jean-Marc in Canada

      Sadly, there will no doubt be “mitigating” circumstances and the cops will do what they always do, defend the indefensible. This is why no one cares about cops anymore, they did this to themselves.

  • SoCalGal20

    If the Nurses’ union in Salt Lake City (I assume they do have one) is anything like CA that police officer and the SLPD will regret their actions.

  • Jean-Marc in Canada

    And cops wonder why they no longer have the respect of the public and further, can’t seem to fathom why they’re considered a greater threat to people than actual criminals. Another reason we will probably never set foot in the U.S. again.

    https://twitter.com/sirlthr69/status/903677249529970688

  • Snarky

    So drunk on authority, he’s the one who needed a blood test.

    • Phillip in L.A.

      Excellent, Snarky! +50

  • BobSF_94117

    Law & Order: LDS coming this Fall…

  • Highmoremotel

    It’s like cops everywhere still haven’t figured it. Cameras are everywhere. World’s Dumbest should do a cop episode.

  • Keith D Plane

    The lawsuits that will filed on this!

  • Elsewhere1010

    The Salt Lake Tribune is reporting, “Payne has been suspended from blood-draw duties but remains in his role as a detective in the investigations unit.”
    http://www.sltrib.com/news/2017/09/01/salt-lake-city-police-apologize-for-officer-handcuffing-nurse-who-refused-blood-draw-of-unconscious-patient/

  • Mark

    I never thought it would happen but after what I’ve seen over the last couple of years I am now firmly in the “fuck the cops camp.” Every single one of them.

  • SilasMarner

    Fucking pig cop! Thinks he’s God. I hope she sues the shit out of the police department and I hope she demands an apology from this pig cop at the hospital in front of all of her coworkers.

    • thatotherjean

      I’d rather see the police officer and his supervisor, both of whom were present, fired from the police department, since neither of them understand their jobs. Then she can sue.

  • Jay Mills

    “were present at time of the arrest and did not intervene”.
    America’s epitaph

    • leastyebejudged

      Well that and they haven’t been charged with the felonies they committed.

      And nobody seems to even feel they should be charged.

  • twb6yz

    Shocking that a police detective doesn’t understand the Constitutional concept of unreasonable search and seizure. Frankly it would make me question if evidence had been gathered inappropriately on some of his other cases.

    • Highmoremotel

      Enough public pressure and super expensive lawsuits should be enough motivation to investigate past evidence collected.

  • LeeCMH

    Wubbels should start with $100 million lawsuit and settle for $40 million plus attorney’s fees. The hospital should certainly sue as well for disruption of their operation trying to save lives.

  • fkevin

    Why Detective Jeff Payne wanted a blood sample has not been determined. The unconscious patient (William Gray) was not a suspect but the victim of a crash. A suspect being pursued crashed his pickup truck into Gray’s 18 wheeler. Detective Payne did not have cause for a warrant and he knew it. So did his supervisor Lt. James Tracy, the watch commander on duty that night who berated the nurse during the arrest. The unconscious patient could not give consent. The Supreme Court ruled implied consent for blood withdrawals unconstitutional in 2016. Detective Payne did know the victim’s identification and that he is a reserve officer in the Rigby, Idaho, Police Department.

    http://www.sltrib.com/pb/news/2017/08/31/utah-nurse-arrested-after-complying-with-hospital-policy-that-bars-taking-blood-from-unconscious-victim

    Lots of speculation on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/6xapv9/video_shows_utah_nurse_screaming_being_dragged/

    Other than being ignorant bullies on power trips, I can see no reason for any of this to have occurred. Both detective and supervisor should be dismissed. They are unfit.

    • leastyebejudged

      The two criminals will not be charged.

      They should both be sitting in jail.

    • Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild

      Probably reason: Scuttling a lawsuit. The cops caused the accident Mr Gray was injured in.

      “A vehicle driven by an unnamed suspect was fleeing from police in Cache County when it crossed into on coming traffic and suffered a head-on collision with a truck. The truck driver was severely burned in the crash, so he was sedated and admitted to the hospital’s burn unit.”

      • fkevin

        Good point. Thank you.

  • Helen Damnation™
  • jo gerardo

    Another “When I was an ER nurse” story. I would have jumped on that asshole’s back and tried to break his neck. Funny thing is, if this happened in my old ER, there would have been one or two female nurses tackling this guy before I got to him. I was usually the only male on shift, but the ladies I worked with didn’t get pushed around. If one of us was in trouble, we swarmed and protected.
    That coward would not have handled a male nurse that way.

  • LeeCMH

    This is from the Salt Lake Tribune.

    The “victim” truck driver is a reserve police officer.
    “Gray is a truck driver when he is not serving as a reserve police officer, according to the Idaho State Journal.”

    Ah, now I understand the fervent cops assaulting the nurse. They were protecting “one of their own.”

    .

    • Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild

      no, they weren’t. He was injured when the cops chased a suspect into head on traffic crash after a high speed chase.

      http://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/09/01/video-utah-nurse-handcuffed-arrested-for-refusing-to-obey-blatantly-unconstitutional-police-orders/

      “According to the Deseret News, the confrontation occurred July 26 after a car crash that followed a high-speed police chase. A vehicle driven by an unnamed suspect was fleeing from police in Cache County when it crossed into on coming traffic and suffered a head-on collision with a truck. The suspect was killed in the crash, and the truck driver was taken to the University of Utah Hospital in Salt Lake City. The truck driver was severely burned in the crash, so he was sedated and admitted to the hospital’s burn unit.”

      • LeeCMH

        I know that!

        But the officers surely knew the truck driver was a fellow — on our side — cop up in Idaho, and took extraordinary and unconstitutional measures to attempt to preemptively protect one of their own.

        As noted in the Deseret News, there was clear video evidence of the causation of the accident; so the SLC officers really did not need to pull this stunt.

        Well Officer Payne in now under criminal investigation. Many have asked, what was driving the cop’s aggressiveness and anger.

        That’s simple:

        Wubbels, in Payne’s mind, had committed contempt of cop and she would pay. It seems, for Payne, this became personal, even with his colleagues advising him of more appropriate, less aggressive and constitutional steps.

        We’ll see in the inquest whether his boss did indeed tell Payne to arrest her.

        .

  • StudioTodd

    From the mayor’s public statement:
    “Following the incident, Salt Lake City Police Department command met with hospital administration. We immediately changed policies that may have been a factor in this encounter, and the officer’s duties have been modified.”

    From the police chief’s public statement:
    “Within 24 hours of this incident, Salt Lake City Police Department took steps to ensure this will never happen again. … We have already replaced our blood draw policy with a new policy.”

    No clarification as to the wording or nature of the hastily rewritten policy–as far as we know, they just made it easier for cops to draw blood from unconscious patients without a warrant.

    And I’m sure the public can feel quite safe now that the cop with anger management issues has had his duties “modified”–not stripped away, not curtailed, simply “modified,”

    As a kid, it would have never occurred to me to be suspicious about what their statements meant, because we were told that cops were the “good guys.” Those days are long gone.

    • leastyebejudged

      He brazenly and knowingly committed a felony, he should be charged.

      He won’t be, and nobody will call for him to be charged, because THAT’S how conditioned to be copsuckers everybody is now.

      • StudioTodd

        I reject the idea that he was smart enough to “knowingly” do anything. He simply reacted out of his fury that this civilian woman would not automatically submit to his demands.

        • leastyebejudged

          You can clearly hear him and the other officer conspiring.

          It was deliberate and intentional what they did.

          • StudioTodd

            I agree that what he did was intentional and deliberate. I just don’t believe he is smart enough to have known the law beforehand and to have made the decision to assault the nurse with that knowledge in mind.

            He reacted out of anger that his sense of superiority and domination was being challenged and that his self-entitled demands were not immediately and without question carried out. He obviously did not know or care about the legality of the situation–he and his ilk are only concerned about enforcing what his supervisor described as “MY law,” not “THE law.”

  • aagold76 .

    another idiot cop doing things Trump’s way.

  • JaniceInToronto

    If she handles this right, she might never have to work another day in her life.

    I hope she gets a real pit bull of a lawyer.

    • leastyebejudged

      We need people like her working, not checking out and retiring.

      How many other times have they happily given a patients blood to the cops without cause ?

      • JaniceInToronto

        We also need people like this winning multi-million dollar lawsuits to send a clear message to the cops that their bullshit won’t be tolerated.

        • leastyebejudged

          Except the cops do not pay those lawsuits the public does, it’s a HUGE scam, they play, we always pay. It is unacceptable to me that the taxpayer constantly end up footing the bill for police misconduct and incompetence.

          Then again, you get the police force you deserve due to your own inactivity in your own local politics.

          • JaniceInToronto

            Then again, it WAS Utah… this time.

  • MarkBuster

    BTW– how the holy hell does that cop in the back pass a physical? Not just fat shamming here.. but SERIOUSLY.. how is he healthy enough to protect and serve?

  • Westcoast88

    I didn’t realize there was a University of Utah in Russia

    • Gregory In Seattle

      It’s in Trump’s America, so close enough.

  • Cucker “Dick” Tarlson
  • fuzzybits

    I hope she has a really good lawyer to show this asshole what’s what.

    • 2guysnamedjoe

      I also hope a good strong kick-ass union is backing her up, because I get the feeling that maybe her employer won’t.

  • charemor

    Once again, cops are pigs. Fuck all of them.

  • Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild

    You forgot the best part: the guy the cops want blood from is a crime victim. He was injured when a high speed police chase crashed into his vehicle. The cops were probably after his blood to pin the blame on him.

    http://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/09/01/video-utah-nurse-handcuffed-arrested-for-refusing-to-obey-blatantly-unconstitutional-police-orders/

  • SDG

    America, America…

  • leastyebejudged

    This version is interesting in that I hear the cops discussing what sounds to me to be a criminal conspiracy. This implicates dozens of officers.

    Police corruption is rampant.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJPVglqR4yM

    • LeeCMH

      Sure. The cops were determining a way to punish Wubbels for contempt of cop.

  • Friday’s_cat

    Expect it to get worse as not only White Tiki-Nazis but authoritarian types in all professions are emboldened by the Great White Dope’s words and actions.

  • BeaverTales

    I was taught that the police are *always* right in these situations, and you can never resist when they feel like fucking you over….I’ve been mistreated enough times that I basically avoid them at all costs, even when I have every reason to believe that they should be helping me . Thank godness for body cams, the internet and common sense. Nurse Wubbels is a hero!.

  • Charlie In SF

    That cop (on the phone in pic) must be 4x the size of that nurse

  • LeeCMH

    One item to note.

    Wubbels and her counsel were in conference with SLC police and government for over the past month, with NO progress.

    After more than a month, Wubbels decided to make the videos public.

    Now, miraculously, the SLC government and police are responding.

    SLC was going to do nothing until the truth got out in the form of the video.

  • djlee

    As of late September 1, he is now suspended pending further investigation.

    • LeeCMH

      Even better — a criminal investigation.

  • ※ Benny Cemoli ✔Gold Verified

    . . . she told a Salt Lake City police detective he wasn’t allowed to draw blood from a badly injured patient.

    I know I’m late to the party here but would someone explain to me when the police received their medical license from the relevant licensing board to be able to perform a medical procedure such as a blood draw?

    If you, I, or anyone else were to do a blood draw we could as unlicensed people be arrested and charged with practicing medicine without the proper license. So why are the police allowed to draw blood. Are they licensed to do so?

  • MikeMarkCA

    She is a nurse, not a lawyer not a legal advocate. “Officer, pursuant to our hospital policy, I cannot draw blood for this unconscious patient”..THEN STEP ASIDE. She is not legal counsel, if law enforcement is wrong the blood will be tossed out of court.
    “I can’t do it, I’m sorry”..END OF DISCUSSION. You don’t become Perry Mason.

    • StudioTodd

      Your weak attempt at trollery is weak.

  • itsnwman

    She did the right thing, just like a nurse… I love her.