West Virginia County To Pay Settlement And Apologize After Deputy Clerk Called Gay Couple An “Abomination”

CBS News reports:

A settlement has been announced in a federal lawsuit against Gilmer County. The case Brookover v. Gilmer County was a result of alleged harassment received by a same-sex couple when going to get their marriage license.

According to a news release by Americans United for Separation of Church and State, Gilmer County Deputy Clerk Debbie Allen called Amanda Abramovich and Samantha Brookover an “abomination” to God and stated their marriage shouldn’t be legal.

The settlement includes Gilmer County apologizing to Abramovich and Brookover and paying damages to them. It also includes the county issuing a public statement regarding the wrongdoing of the County Clerk’s office. The county has also promised to take steps to ensure their employees do not discriminate against anyone again.

The inset photo above is Allen’s boss, Gilmer County Clerk Jean Butcher, who reportedly shrugged off the couple’s initial complaint, saying she feels the same way.

From my first report on the incident:

The clerks don’t dispute that Allen told the couple was they were doing was wrong, and that they would be judged. But they also stressed that they did not view the statement as an “attack.” “We did not attack them,” Allen said. “We did not yell at them. We were not aggressive with them. I felt I talked nicely to them.”

Brookover and Abramovich say that Allen huffed, took their driver’s licenses, made copies, slammed down the copies, then for two to three minutes, yelled that what they were doing was wrong, in her eyes and in God’s eyes, and that no one in Gilmer County would ever marry them.

  • Treant

    So, why do Allen and Butcher still have jobs? If they’d said this to a mixed-race couple, their asses would have been out the door.

    Oh. Yeah. Icky lesbians. Call me when their religion doesn’t provide a handy shield from any repercussions.

    • bkmn

      If I was gay and lived there I would want to make sure they sure as hell don’t get raises for a year or two

      • ZhyKitty

        They really should have been fired for that.

        • Chiennoir

          True. If they can’t do the work as expected in their job description, they shouldn’t have that job.

  • Jonathan Smith
    • CardboardCatTrap

      Come on, man. I’m from WV, and can say with absolute certainty that we’re not nearly as bad as the stereotypes would have you believe. In fact, there are some of us who are completely reasonable, intelligent, decent people. Yes, it might be difficult to believe such a thing based on the story we’re commenting on, but it’s no less true.

      • Jonathan Smith

        Hey, I’m in charleston myself…….
        just poking fun
        🙂

        • Xiao Ai: The Social Gadfly

          Give me back my upvote.

        • CardboardCatTrap

          Oh. Well, in that case, please excuse my touchiness. I hate getting bent out of shape, but it irks the shit out of me when people rag on us like we’re some kind of backwater, inbred subspecies. Unless those people are from WV themselves, anyway. It’s a double standard, but it’s in my favor 🙂

          • Jonathan Smith

            works for me 🙂

          • Prost Seattle

            Not like you’re from Kentucky for crissakes. *ducks*

      • Ken M

        Denying stereotypes made about you. That’a very “minority” thing to do.

  • Ken M

    If either Allen, or Butcher, are still employed by the county, then nothing was done.

    • Bob Black

      County Clerks are elected officials and cannot be fired. They have to be voted out of office.

      • Lars Littlefield

        Not true of all county clerks. In some forward-thinking counties in western states its an appointment by the county commissioners.

      • ETownCanuck

        That’s part of the problem right there. The reason you have a job should be because you were a suitable candidate with the right qualifications, not because you won a popularity contest or that no one else entered it.

      • grada3784

        County Clerks may be, but I doubt Deputy County Clerks are. It was the Deputy that pulled this crap.

        • Bob Black

          And it’s the elected clerk who hires and fires the deputies….both of them mocked and harassed the people seeking a marriage license

      • grada3784

        County Clerks may be, but I doubt Deputy County Clerks are. It was the Deputy that pulled this crap.

  • David in Tucson

    Sorry, Jean Butcher, but you can sugar-coat it all you want, and it will still be an attack, and will be perceived as an attack.

    • Ragnar Lothbrok

      Exactly. No one has ever said ” The shark sampled me “.

  • kelven

    Aside from the fact that they were lying about how rude they were, there is no “nice” way to tell someone they are an abomination and deserving of death and hell. But I guess it is the “christian” thing to do.

    • netxtown

      Their verbiage can be found in XtianXunt:11:17

  • JWC

    Just becaus you use level tones and smile while you spew hatered its still hatred BITCH

    • Gustav2

      You forgot to add the “smile” 🙂

    • Friday

      Not that they apparently did. Christianists just lie.

    • Steverino

      There is something particularly creepy and vile about people who dispense hatred with a smile.

      • JWC

        not tomention leacherous

  • liondon#iamnotatraitor

    Jean, your Type II diabetes is an abomination.

  • Smokey

    Would Allen feel I “talked nicely” if I yelled she was a f-ng ass and said she was an abomination, all in x-tian love of course.

  • AltheaTheCat

    That lady’s hairdo is an abomination

    • BostonBud

      You beat me to it!

      • Gregory B

        But we are all in agreement!

    • MT YVR

      Well no wonder the woman doesn’t like gay people… she’s never met one. As is evidenced by no one telling her that her hair is horrid. We’d have said something by now. If not cleaned it up a bit. With… fire or something. ANYTHING.

      • William

        Napalm?

        • MT YVR

          “Just a little singe around the minge, dontchaknow?”

          • The_Wretched

            Fire play for hair removal works pretty well from the skin standpoint. It can smell a bit though.

          • Stephen Elliot Phillips

            ugh that smell. People at the camps and people living nearby described that stench of burning hair and flesh.
            Its nasty.

          • GinaVLee

            Google is paying 97$ per hour! Work for few hours and have longer with friends & family!!!
            On tuesday I got a great new Land Rover Range Rover from having earned $8752 this last four weeks.. Its the most-financialy rewarding I’ve had.. It sounds unbelievable but you wont forgive yourself if you don’t check it >>>http://GoogleFinancialJobsCash96TopHouse/GetPay$97/Hour…….

          • Carl Smith

            Thank you for this post. I am incredibly rich now and you’re a gem. Except well you smell like a barn and your mother hates you.

    • Kevin Perez

      Clearly, she has no gay friends.

      • Steve Smith

        Probably no friends at all.

        • ZhyKitty

          I’d bet you’re right….none with taste, anyway, or they’d have told her her haircut looks like she did it herself with a Flowbee. and they’d have also told her that one does not put frosted blue eyeshadow from lid to eyebrow and call it a day.
          She looks a hot mess!

          • olandp

            How do you know she didn’t use the Flowbee? Girl’s got to save a few bucks when she can, and heterosexual men aren’t that picky. Kim Davis found three to marry her!

          • Here in the south I see variations on that haircut a lot. It looks light they got their head caught in a weed whacker! It doesn’t look good on anyone. And yet all the middle aged women seem to be getting that done. Ugh!

      • RoFaWh

        Not even gay enemies (that she knows personally).

    • Cipher

      I was going to remark on the eye shadow, but you are correct!

      • William

        It’s how the local mortician earns money during the off season.

        • Stephen Elliot Phillips

          she works at the local merle norman part time when theres nobody to embalm

          • Bryan

            semi O/T – mom uses Merle Norman and we have a really nice lady across town – you’re not using it in the way we use Walmart/Hobby Lobby/Chick-Fil-A because there’s some right-wing crazy I haven’t heard about yet right? Or were you? I’m curious because regardless if MN is involved in some shady right-wing shite I want to tell mom so she’ll rethink where she buys things.

          • TruthWinsOut

            Kindly leave Merle Norman out of it. Not a hateful company.

      • ZhyKitty

        Thank you! 6th graders put on make-up better than that!

    • bkmn

      And the makeup on her ‘face’ is an abomination

    • dcurlee

      Don’t forget the makeup.

      • bzrd

        around her eyes, arg

        • dcurlee

          Raccoon blue lol

    • Dagoril

      The Appalachian Beehive. It’s 1960 all over again!

    • ChrisMorley

      I know I am swimming against the tide of *deserved* derison, but facts folks, Joe said:
      “The inset photo above is Allen’s boss, Gilmer County Clerk Jean Butcher”.

      Here’s the real villain, Debbie Allen.
      https://www.advocate.com/sites/advocate.com/files/2016/02/16/debbie-allen-gilmer-county-x750.jpg
      https://www.advocate.com/marriage-equality/2016/2/16/west-virginia-women-get-antigay-lecture-marriage-license

      • Strepsi

        What do you think of some bigot stealing your name, Debbie Allen?
        https://ewedit.files.wordpress.com/2015/01/debbie_allen_stankface_endless.gif?w=300

      • bzrd

        it was reported that Jean shrugged off the couples initial complaint saying she felt the same way

      • Cucker “Dick” Tarlson

        Them’s some buttered corn teefs.

        That’s what y’all get when you done raise the chirruns on tabacky.

        • HeyYouKidsGetOffMyLawn

          Those are summer teeth.

          Summer here, and some are over there…..

      • Chiennoir

        Okay, so it’s 1972 that wants its hairdo back. I stand corrected.

      • Snarkaholic

        PIIIIIIIIIIIIIIING!!!!!!!

      • HeyYouKidsGetOffMyLawn

        That bitch could bite into an apple through a picket fence!

      • Carl Smith

        Look at that, one of God’s beautiful creatures. Gosh I’d like to plant my wee in her mouth.

        • TruthWinsOut

          That’s too good for her… perhaps poop would be better

      • jayjonson

        They are both villains. The County Clerk agreed with the sentiments of her deputy.

    • Gerry Fisher

      mmm-hmmm…preach!

    • Call me superficial but that’s the first thing I saw. Sweet Baby Jesus, that is a fright. Poor thing should start being nicer to the gays, or at least one gay with a hair salon. Whoever did that to her should be driven out of town!

    • Nic Peterson

      The hair! The eye shadow applied with a feather duster, apparently. And those uneven brows. One might think she is cutting her own hair, while applying shadow and tweezing at the same time.

    • HeyYouKidsGetOffMyLawn

      It’s always these frumpy frauleins who get their stretch polyester pants at Ross Dress for Less that act like this.

      Always.

  • Bad Tom

    “We did not attack them,” Allen said. “We did not yell at them. We were not aggressive with them. I felt I talked nicely to them.”

    No, sure, you weren’t attacking the women. You were Witnessing your Truth to them.

    It just SOUNDED and FELT like hateful harassment.
    Which meant it WAS hateful harassment.

    And the Court agreed!
    Pay up. Trump ain’t gonna pardon your ass.

    • The_Wretched

      And governmental employees are the voice of the government – and that’s one place where the Constitution says you don’t have ‘free speech’. In office you cannot advocate for (establish) your religion.

  • clay

    Gilmer County– western foothills– moonshine and Oxy.

  • AtticusP

    Abomination?

    Honey, with that mug you shouldn’t be criticizing others.

    Bigots who live in glass houses…

  • m_lp_ql_m

    The county has also promised to take steps to ensure their employees do not discriminate against anyone again.

    Likely some online diversity training program, created in Adobe Flash, written and narrated over 10 years ago.

    • MBear

      Fire all religious people.
      Done

      • Priya Lynn

        How about only the anti-gay ones?

        • MBear

          All religious people.

    • RJ Bone

      It’s West Virginia. VHS at best 😉

  • Bob Conti

    A civil servant performing her ministerial duties admits telling a member of the public that getting married, a legal act, is “wrong” and “they would be judged.” And they don’t think that in and of itself is an attack? “I felt I talked nicely to them.” Go to hell.

  • Paula

    That hair, face, and makeup are an abomination.

  • Rebecca Gardner

    Speaking of WV, if you’ve night seen the Wild Whites you really should.

    https://youtu.be/AQBiXDNVeSA

    • Lars Littlefield

      I think the powers of the universe are saving me from myself. The clip won’t play on my Macbook Pro. Probably a good thing. Back to viewing puppies frolic,

    • fuzzybits

      Hank 111 is cool though.

    • Tomcat

      I really did not need to watch that video, In Tennessee all I have to do is go to town and see the same thing. It is a very sick Southeast.

    • Ragnar Lothbrok

      I feel a bit better about our neighbors now.

  • Lars Littlefield

    Although Allen’s foto isn’t shown and only Butcher’s, waddayabet Allen also looks like a fat cow with a bad haircut? Howmuchyagot? Any takers? And if there is a non fake god I suspect she’s not too pleased with her worshippers lack of self respect, allowing themselves to become obese slugs of church picnic gluttony. Sorry. I’m not fat shaming. I’m just describing the truth. Deal with it.

    • bzrd

      we haven’t forgotten the visage of the four times married kimmy

  • bambinoitaliano
    • bambinoitaliano
    • McSwagg

      I posted a local link yesterday. It produces organic peroxides that need to be refrigerated to remain stable and non-explosive. There’s been no power to keep them cool since at least the weekend.

  • Rex

    Just remember, when I call you a hateful asshole, I will say it nicely.

  • ByronK

    Where do these fuckwads get off talking to anyone like that?! It continually astounds me how Christians feel they have the right in a professional setting to pass judgement or mistreat anyone. They’re less than Christian – more like brownshirts for a fairytale.

    • The_Wretched

      On the short list of things I will point out to individual christians in person (and sometimes comment sections) is that they don’t get to judge other people and would be very offended and angry were they judged in exactly the same way that they do it. I tell them it’s not their business and to mind themselves.

      • Steverino

        And that is precisely why they behave that way: they know how deeply offended they would be if somebody treated them like that, so they behave that way to people they hate, knowing it would hurt them in the same way. It is a perversion of the Golden Rule: do unto others as you would NOT want them to do unto you.

        • The_Wretched

          Christian privilege takes a lot of work to maintain.

    • Smokey

      Up vote for “brownshirts for a fairytale”.

    • Tomcat

      Rural America gives them their strength.

      • Tomcat

        Misguided as it is.

    • chrisinphx

      Christian Terrorists is what they are.

  • JWC
    • Tomcat

      AMEN!

    • Stephen Elliot Phillips

      I feel offended having to look at that sack dress.
      Kimmy mustve sewn that herself from a pattern she bought at hobby lobby

    • Pilot Nozzle

      Speaking of fixing with fire…

      • Todd20036

        Oh that’s too harsh.

        Merely encasing her in a block of cement would vastly improve her looks.

        • Chiennoir

          …and her attitude.

    • Steverino

      Right-wingers project, but religious right-wingers have perfected that psychological art.

  • Talisman

    Unfortunately, It’s going to take suing the pants off these clerks to make them do their jobs.

  • Friday

    That county needs to find someone willing to do their jobs instead of preaching fire and brimstone at citizens for being minorities.

  • misterjack

    The only abomination I see is that hair and make up.

    • misterjack

      Hahaha! I should have read down further…

      • CardboardCatTrap

        There’s no harm in reiterating a valid point.

  • fuzzybits

    Good and they need a kick in the ass with steel toed boots.

  • Tomcat

    The apology should be made in public by the same lady that disrespected their rights.

    • Lars Littlefield

      On TV in a looping PSA showing her height, weight, real hair color, day time and home phone numbers and maybe her SS number.

    • William

      The judge could order her to be tased approximately the same amount of time as the couple were inconvenienced.

      • McSwagg

        “Couple” means “two”, therefore two tasers wielded by the couple.

        • William

          I like how you think!

          • Bad Tom

            I like that you’re up as late as I am.

          • McSwagg

            I was “house bound” for days with Harvey, the unwanted guest who wouldn’t leave. I’d had lots of time to “think”.

  • Chris Gardner

    When people like this choose to be nasty, I love to throw Bible scriptures back in their face which contradicts their behavior. “Lady, doesn’t the Bible say to ‘judge not lest ye be judged’?”

  • Hanwi

    “We did not yell at them. We were not aggressive with them. I felt I talked nicely to them.”

    Holy fucking delusional Batman!! Yikies!

    • Natty Enquirer

      The truth in such cases usually lies between the extremes.

  • Cuberly

    “I felt I talked nicely to them.”

    Let me guess:
    “I don’t hate anybody.”
    “I don’t have a racist bone in my body.”
    …etc.

    Yep, they’re christians all right.

    • Gigi

      But if you tell them their buy-bull is a load of hooey they cry PERSECUTION! 😩

      • Cuberly

        ….heck, from the article it seems if you do so much as disagree with them they whip out the cross and start banging in their spikes.

    • m_lp_ql_m

      “I’m not homophobic, but…”

      • Cuberly

        Why ain’t she just sweet as vinegar ya’ll?

    • Duh-David

      “I’ll pray for You.”

      • Cuberly

        Ooooooo, yep, the suthun version of Fuck off.

  • j.martindale

    I think gays and lesbians need to start their wedding arrangements by going to the licensing office and stating to the clerks at the outset they don’t want to have to deal with the religious superstitions of people who think they talk to sky fairies, and that they need a rational person to fill out their forms. Strike first. Don’t put up with religious nuts.

    Or we can keep suing your asses. Either way.

    • The_Wretched

      i could see a LGBTQ awareness / marketing campaign with a professionally made “yellow card” (like from soccer) that reiterated our right to governmental services without proselytizing or abuse.

    • bzrd

      suing their asses pays for the wedding and them some, just takes awile

    • ZhyKitty

      I hope that lawsuit buys those girls a lovely 2nd honeymoon!

    • RoFaWh

      “Religious” types get very upset when you refer to them as superstitious.

      “Don’t you believe in gawd?”

      “No. I’m not superstitious.”

  • Chris Gardner

    Also, I wonder if the clerk does same thing whenever a couple come in where one or both are divorced or if one is a Christian and the other is not?

    • Natty Enquirer

      That’s DIFFERENT!

      • Xuuths

        Not according to the bible.

        • Tulle Christensen

          Sure it is, the Bible says nothing about same sex marriage. but does condemn the others

        • m_lp_ql_m

          When has it ever mattered what the bible said? To xians or non-xians.

          • Gianni

            Well, it seems to matter a lot when they want it to. It’s a convenience thing.

  • bambinoitaliano

    This is one long article but if you are a regular donor of Red Cross you should read before sending in money that is not going anywhere near the victims.
    https://www.propublica.org/article/the-red-cross-secret-disaster?utm_campaign=sprout&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_content=1504120326

    • bambinoitaliano
    • Lumpy Gaga

      tl;dr but I do recall that, after Katrina(?), they were all, “You misunderstand. We don’t collect for the current disaster. We collect for the NEXT one.”, which I buy, frankly.

      But then, fundraising at Mar-A-Lago until the bitter end?? Something stinks.

  • Ragnar Lothbrok

    Jesus, come pick up your people.

    • Tomcat

      I call dibs on that big church in Houston. Going to turn it into a animal rescue.

      • Tomcat

        And just in case he don’t go to heaven I will help him get there.

    • coram nobis

      Yes, Jesus, please Raptor them.

      • Todd20036

        I see what you did there.

      • bzrd

        naaaaaaaa, there’s not an eagle large enough to get those biggies off the ground, although some birds have taken off with goats

        • coram nobis

          Then someone should call Denise Teagarden and ask for a squadron of her dragons.

          • bzrd

            tea might just do the trick then the really can be raptured

          • John30013

            “Denise Teagarden” LOL.

  • William

    A marriage license if a function of government. Render unto Caesar bitch and issue it without complaint.

  • pj

    just keep suing them till learn some manners.

  • Ragnar Lothbrok
    • Todd20036

      He looks like he was beautiful.

      You could tell his soul certainly was

    • Steverino

      “Heaven for the climate, hell for the company.”

      -Mark Twain

  • The_Wretched

    As for the terrible dress / make up / presentation comments – their religious sects are semi-communistic. They tell everyone to look like hell to show piety. It has the side effect of hiding poverty in their community. They then also practice semi-arranged marriages to ensure every man has a meat alter for offerings to the lord. ’cause one-size-fits-all.

  • coram nobis

    And the county is not going to thank their deputy clerk for costing them money, time and bad publicity just because she wanted to flap her gums.

  • Edmund Allin

    Not the same person, obviously, but:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BytJKFn0oXw

  • bkmn

    Wow, a marriage equality case that didn’t involve Libety Console or Alliance Defending Child Fuckers.

    • Stubenville

      They’re too busy begging for money.

  • scorpiomike

    And I wonder how many people still have not gotten married due to the fear of this. When we went to get our marriage license, I was so nervous that something like this would happen. Thankfully, the staff in the office were kind and did their job professionally.

    • Tomcat

      I guess you need to get a carry permit first then go.

    • Treant

      Ditto. Although it’s of less concern here in Pennsylvania, and we were treated extremely well. Up to and including a lovely congratulations from the clerk who issued our license.

    • Jamie Wilson

      There is no evidence that any gay couple has foregone marriage out of fear of a bad interaction with the clerk. However, there is some evidence that gay couples do alter the county in which they marry in order to avoid problems. In states that track SSMs by county, we see that it skews hugely in favor of large urban counties and that many rural counties report few if any SSMs. Now, obviously, part of that is b/c more gay couples live in urban counties than in rural counties. But it is also possible that some rural gays are concluding that it is better to drive over to the city to get their license rather than risk a scene with some rural clerk which will taint their memory forever.

      • stuckinthewoods

        I can see that might happen. Even though our first local gay couple was celebrated and featured in the newspaper (poor dears) we still preferred not to dignify our rural Republican county. We chose to drive to Democratic Charlottesville where the clerks and other applicants applauded us (before “Charlottesville” meant something else). So I think even if a scene isn’t likely it’s also possible that some rural gays just don’t want to share their joy… with republicans.

        • John30013

          We were treated very nicely by the clerk’s in our local probate court office here in red state Georgia. Of course it doesn’t hurt that the probate court judge and his wife are friends and good customers at our antique stores.

          We also got a nice write-up in the local newspaper, which generated one irate letter to the editor about promotion of sin (and about five counter letters supporting us).

  • dcurlee

    We call them an abomination and what they were doing were wrong in gods eyes. But but we didn’t yell or attack them. Jeez sounds like these bitches need a taste of their own medicine. Truly wish they had lost their jobs

  • boobert

    ” yea, we told them they would burn in hell, but we said it nicely! “

  • MikeBx2

    Imagine a County Clerk thinking that people come to them at their job to find out how they “feel” about anything.

    • Stephen Elliot Phillips

      a cabinet maker was working in my kitchen and wanted “to talk to me about jesus christ, the lord our savior”
      I told him I didnt pay him to preach. I pay him to make cabinets

      • Tomcat

        He was working for you so why not make him listen to all your views while he worked?

        • William

          Put on the video about the Raelians. That will drive most anyone over the edge.

          • Bad Tom

            UNARAUS!

      • Ross

        I purchased something on eBay.

        When the package arrived I discovered religious tracts inside. The tracts were horrifying, showing in full color people being pulled apart, people being decapitated, and other horrors. “This is what happens to sinners!”

        I thought I would just ignore this but, after looking at the seller’s feedback, saw that she had already received two negatives for the exact same thing. The buyer’s had added: Offensive material included in packaging.

        Each time she replied: How can Jesus be offensive?

        I thought: fucking bitch!

        So I, too, left a negative.

        She replied: “How can Jesus be offensive?”

        And this is what I had waited for.

        I replied: Jesus is not offensive. YOU are.

        • Stephen Elliot Phillips

          they love to shove this shit in your face, dont they. I fucking hate when they disturb my peace by knocking on the door. Im not nice when I answer

          • Helen Damnation™

            All it takes is one nekkid doorbell response; they won’t be back.

    • Tomcat

      I am sure if you are gay and get a traffic ticket they will be more than willing to take your money and not turn you away.

    • MikeBx2

      “Pardon me Jean but I’ve got this rash on my bum I think I should get checked out. How do you feel about it?” lol

  • Michael Scott

    Tell em large marge sent ya 😂

    • MUELLER KNOWS

      Mekka lekka high mekka hiney ho.

  • Ninja0980

    Do they still have jobs?
    Then this settlement means nothing.
    I’ve said it countless times and I’ll say it here, a clerk’s office is NOT a church.
    If your religious beliefs mean you can’t do your job, then get the fuck out and move aside for people who can.

  • coram nobis

    According to the Americans United website, the incident took place in 2016. Case settled fairly soon, depending on the time line, so the county may have concluded they had no defense.

    http://www.protectthyneighbor.org/west-virginia-marriage-equality

    The AU case site also links to the complaint and a number of documents from the case. the County press statement statement after the settlement sounds a bit chastened, if not contrite. Judging by the original complaint, they had a lot to apologize about.

    Their clerk had made it plain that this pattern of behavior would continue, so the couple was well-justified in suing, to make it stop if nothing else.

  • Ragnar Lothbrok
    • John Ruff

      Whatever. They’re still your (JamesMartin SJ) fellow Christians.

      • Ragnar Lothbrok

        Yeah, I know. Whatever.

        • John Ruff

          These Christians and they’re love/hate relationship with humans is just pathetic. Of course, you don’t here these pro LGBTQ Christian leaders making headlines about, you know, denouncing their organized religion out of protest. Fuck no. There’s too much money for them to make off of followers so…

          • Ragnar Lothbrok

            Yep, what you said.

    • Adam King

      I affirm: that the Roman Catholic Church calls us “disordered.” I deny: that a Jesuit has any room to talk.

      • Ragnar Lothbrok

        Oh I agree, I just thought it was interesting

  • Steve Morrison

    Did she let her 4 year old cut her hair… or did her cat just chew it off..
    This should be illegal.

    • Lumpy Gaga

      Melanie Griffith plays her in the Lifetime Movie dramatization.

    • Stubenville

      She dropped a running blender on her head.

  • watchthewingnuts

    And per usual… the taxpayers foot the bill for a bunch of fundies’ “opinions”. Notice that the culprits themselves won’t be apologizing?

  • Nunya D. Bidness

    Most of these catty comments are an abomination. In the future when they ask why did str8 people hate the gays so much, they’ll point to these comments right here.
    When they go low aren’t we supposed to go high?

    • watchthewingnuts

      I’ll take catty any day. Making fun of someone’s hairdo is not even in the same universe as their calling for mass genocide, mental torture and other fun type things for us.

    • Lumpy Gaga

      That wasn’t funny.

    • Ben in Oakland

      When they stop screaming abomination, and start doing their jobs, then they will deserve the respect that they are not willing to accord to others.

      • RoFaWh

        Remember, it’s one of the strongest rules about social behavior that you do not discuss religion or politics over dinner.

        Telling an SS couple they’re an abomination and going to hell when they are applying for a marriage license combines those two topics.

    • Gianni

      You can go high if you want. Guaranteed, they won’t think any better of you nor will they treat you better. I wouldn’t bother with a sight like this if I couldn’t air my bitchiness and read what others of like mind are airing. It’d be really great to be reading statements of all sweetness and light, like “We should turn the other cheek”, “We must forgive them seven times seven”, and such. When they give respect they can expect it from me. Besides, what’s their excuse for all the hatred and condemnation for all these many decades when even the laws reflected their animosity toward us?

    • agcons

      Fuck off.

      • Nunya D. Bidness

        Calm your tits, i’m wasn’t saying that you have to be friends with them.

    • Mike_in_the_Tundra

      Is that in the constitution?

    • MUELLER KNOWS

      When they go low I prefer to apply a steel toed boot to their face.

    • RoFaWh

      The day for that has come and gone. They go low, we call them on it: “Hey, Ms. Cow, you’re full of shit. Now say moo for the camera.”

    • Bad Tom

      “None Of Your Business” is a recursive Nym!

  • Occasionally we get it right.

  • Ben in Oakland

    A knife in the gut, even when delivered with a smile and a god bless, is still a knife in the gut.

    • RJ Bone

      ^This^

    • Helen Damnation™

      Especially those knives with pretty ribbons…

  • RJ Bone

    Tone matters, but not when you’re saying detestable things. I can string together expletives, epithets and curses in a calm tone that’d make these little religionists’ toes curl, while giving them a genuine smile.

    Bitch, please. You don’t have to be threatening to attack someone.

  • agcons

    Oh, that painted trollop. I’d forgotten about her.

  • Jamie Wilson

    As appalling as this is, it is worth remembering that there are tens of thousands of clerks, deputy clerks, and staff working in several thousand counties across 50 states and there have been very, very few negative incidents. There were 2 incidents of gay couples being turned away – Kim Davis in 2015 and Rosemary Bellforti in NY back in 2011. And there is this incident from WV, which AFAIK, is the only incident involving verbal abuse. All in all, things have gone amazingly smoothly, even in states like Mississippi and Louisiana, where opposition is still somewhere around 70%.

    • Priya Lynn

      When you put it like that, that sounds pretty encouraging.

  • Pip

    “But they also stressed that they did not view the statement as an “attack.” “We did not attack them,” Allen said. “We did not yell at them. We were not aggressive with them. I felt I talked nicely to them.””

    Being from the south I was brought up learning how to nicely tell folks to go to hell. So a nice tone and a smiling face means jack shit.

    • Mike_in_the_Tundra

      Bless her heart.

      • Bj Lincoln

        Ouch. Exactly.

      • Pip

        HA! Exactly.

  • Oh, Parker

    Inbreds on drugs living in a sea of misery. They can’t stand happiness when they see it.

  • TexasBoy

    “The clerks don’t dispute that Allen told the couple was they were doing was wrong, and that they would be judged…We were not aggressive with them. I felt I talked nicely to them.”

    So…Ms. Allen…Please explain just how you tell someone they are an abomination and should not be able to get married in a nice way. I’ll wait.

  • Paula

    Gilmer County Clerk Jean Butcher made a statement about the settlement, today.
    She said “Moo, Mooooo, moo, moo,moo, moo, moo.
    Moo, moooooo,mmmmoooooooo.

  • Dawn Brennan

    What’s this couples problem. The clerk told them in a nice way that they were going to hell 🙂

  • MUELLER KNOWS

    What a f’ing beast that chick is.

  • Old Top Kick

    Her face is an abomination to me. She should tear it off immediately.

  • Uncle Mark

    “We did not yell at them. We were not aggressive with them. I felt I talked nicely to them.” I’m curious. How exactly is calling a couple to their faces ‘an abomination’ “talking nicely to them?”

    That’s far worse than the time I was told “nicely” by a Southern Baptist parishioner I was helping pro bono that I was going to hell for being Catholic. (It was “nice” because she was smiling the whole time. Bless her heart & blue hair)

    • Stubenville

      …and that’s when you say “I think we’re done here.”

      • Uncle Mark

        Nah…Sarcasm is my comfort and strength….although my snarky reply did go over her little hate-spewing head. (This was some 30 years ago, and I was doing this work as a favor for a friend of mine. Needless to say, I refused to help at that place again. Honestly, I never met a group of more toxic people in my life. If they weren’t busy putting other minority groups down, while elevating themselves, they were ripping into each other.)

        • Helen Damnation™

          “If they weren’t busy putting other minority groups down, while elevating themselves, they were ripping into each other.”

          Sounds EXACTLY like the Republican party, don’t it?

          • Uncle Mark

            Once the Republicans invited these holier-than-thou assholes into their party, they doomed themselves. It explains how the party has become a petty group of uncompromising ideologues.

    • RoFaWh

      IMO (others may disagree) the right response to a situation like that is to put down one’s tools, get up, leave without a word, and not go back.

      I was going to suggest saying “fuck you” as a good bye but on reflection it strikes me that silence speaks much louder. The underlying idea is akin to Supernanny’s advice to parents not to engage in debate when junior starts to argue against whatever punishment is on the agenda: just pick the kid up and put her/it/him back on the naughty step, then walk away.

      • Uncle Mark

        In my case, the self-righteous hag pretty much waited until I was almost finished. She was also well-aware that I was mainly suffering these people as a favor to a (soon-to-be erstwhile) friend of mine. She was also sneaky enough to insult me with no other witnesses around. My smiling sarcastic comment whizzing above her head served as my comfort, and it just confirmed what an ignorant, clueless twat she was. Burying people in profanity is not my style. I much prefer assailing others with wit…preferrably if I can make other people laugh at them. (I found that was always an effective way to shut down people making homophobic comments. I had a church choir laughing at a director after one such incident. He never spouted shit like that again in front of me. I did that another time in a business meeting, when a superior cast aspersions on my sexuality.)

        As for your proposed response, I do agree. Unleashing profanity upon her would have had her running to my friend to complain about the filthy heathen he dragged into their midsts. (She was also seeking to sabotage my friend.). She would have relished getting under my skin, and my profane response would only serve to somehow make her feel morally superior.

        • Bad Tom

          I admire your backbone of steel!

    • sfbob

      “We called them an abomination but we said it politely.”

  • Stubenville

    Obvi patronizes the Curl Up and Dye hair salon. I wonder what gossip Mr. Bruce has on Miss Thing.

  • -M-

    Make discrimination expensive.

  • bobbyjoe

    And now you’ve been told “nicely” to pay through the nose.

  • Jmdintpa

    Has her hairdo become a meme yet… because honey .. just look at it.

  • Ken M

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpjrTSqm3mg O/T Trump in Missouri today. They didn’t love him as they did in AZ. All ended with more threats for Congress. Pushing Tax Reform (which most folks don’t understand anyway,) less than 24 hours after leaving TX. Guess he can’t miss a rally with his numbers so low.

  • RoFaWh

    There’s a good reason they’re called civil rights.

    Any decent dictionary will help the thumpers get their dim little minds around this understanding.

  • andrew

    When will civilized humanity be freed from that mythological abomination named Yahweh?

    • Karl Dubhe

      When we come up with the same creature, but with a different name?

      Thinking something was looking over us with bad intentions has been around since our earliest ancestors fucked each other in ancient Africa, while trying not to think of the hungry lions that were hard to see.

    • sfbob

      We make our gods in our own image and that’s always going to be the case. It seems cultures will tend to continue to create supreme beings even if those beings have different characteristics.

      Fact is that with the exception of some of the Chasidic sects, Jews–even very observant ones–no longer embrace the Old Testament version of the jealous and frankly egotistical god. The Holocaust was a bridge too far for many of my own generation and my parents’ generation who either lived through it or were born in the immediate aftermath. At that time more than a few rabbis declared that we were being collectively punished for insufficient piety. The result was a pretty substantial rejection of that idea, at least among the survivors and a large number of people like me whose identification with Judaism is more cultural than theological. Those who continue to believe don’t for the most part believe in a judging and punishing god anymore. This is not merely modernity in action or a long-term influence of the Enlightenment (though it’s probably those as well); it seems clear from biblical and historical records that the actual beliefs of the ancient Hebrews changed over time. Had Jesus not claimed divinity for himself he’d simply have been another in a long line of prophets and would have altered Jewish beliefs accordingly, most likely in the direction of a “god of love” which most non-evangelical Christians seem to acknowledge and which I find predominant at least within Reform Judaism and probably among the Conservative and Reconstructionist branches of Judaism as well as increasingly among the mainstream Orthodox..

      • I’ve long maintained that you can find something in the Bible (as well as other sacred texts) to justify what you wanted to do anyway.

        As for the divinity of Jesus, he fits in with a a couple of archetypes prevalent in Middle Eastern and pre-Christian European mythology: the Hero, whose birth is marked by signs and portents, who wanders through the land overcoming many hardships, and returns to change the life of the people. And there’s also the Sacrificed God — Osiris, Baldur, Siva, Adonis, Cernunnos — who sacrifices himself so that the people may live. Jesus may or may not have claimed divinity for himself, but the archetypes were there, just waiting.

  • xzargo

    Rats On Leashes did her hair.

  • Griff Jim Griffith

    “We didn’t attack them. We just harangued and insulting them and tried to humiliate them in a public space by telling them they are evil. But in a nice, inside voice. That’s our job as civil servants, to judge others out loud!”

    And people wonder why humans are abandoning religion in droves.

  • Chiennoir

    Hey, you hateful cow… 1968 called. It wants its hairdo back.

    • Girlgoon

      That hairstyle will be back In just a few more decades.

      Guess she was absent the day they played the training video in the break room on non-descrimination

    • paganguy

      I’d said it’s definitely a hair don’t… especially when combined with what appears to be blue eye shadow smeared on with a trowel.

  • Gerard

    I wonder what you’d have to do to be fired from a county clerk’s job? A lot, by the looks of things. Or are they elected?

    • I think in most, if not all, states, that’s an elected office.

  • Girlgoon

    Where’s the disciplinary action, the administrative leave without pay for these women ?!

    I suppose Trump would pardon them

  • Dale Snyder

    Another sinful christian glutton who refuses to take a knife to its throat, as its BuyBull commands.

  • TKW

    Yes, because saying you are “an abomination to mankind” in a nice tone is ever-so-much-more polite.

  • Rocco

    They should lose their jobs…

  • BEARY FLINTSTONE
  • Lindoro Almaviva

    “well, yes, I did tell them to go fuck themselves with a gonorrhea-infested rusting dildo, but I said it in the nicest tone. How could they possibly be offended by that? People these days, they get offended by everything. I had nothing but love in my heart for them while I said those words. They need Jesus in their loves. Bless their sweet, unrepentant, gay-sex-loving homosexual hearts. “

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  • MichelMT

    How many chins does one woman need!?

  • Jay Phelps

    A couple of bigots on the public payroll have been put back in their places. Sweet! Keep your hatred at home, dears.