Devastating Fox News Poll: Lowest Approval Rating Ever, Majority Say Trump Is “Tearing The Country Apart”

Fox News reports:

Voter satisfaction with the direction of the nation is down by double digits, as a majority says President Donald Trump is tearing the country apart. That’s according to the latest Fox News Poll. The number of voters happy with how things are going in the country is down 10 percentage points since April and stands at just 35 percent. It hasn’t been that low since 2013. At the same time, dissatisfaction jumped to 64 percent — an 11-point increase.

His job ratings are increasingly negative — and 56 percent feel Trump’s “tearing the country apart,” versus 33 percent who say he’s “drawing the country together.” In addition, a record 55 percent of voters disapprove of the job he’s doing as president, while 41 percent approve. That’s a net negative by 14 points and his worst score to-date. In April, around the 100-day mark of the administration, his ratings were at net negative three (45-48 percent).

  • JWC

    the Polls reflect what JMG readers already know

    • Robincho

      Because we’re cuter, we’re smarter, and goshdarnit, peepz just really seem to LIKE us!…

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    • colo303

      Well if you were to poll me I’d give him 21 % approval and that’s being generous.

      • You made it to double digits? How?

  • Jamie_Johnson

    But if given the chance to vote again, 100% of Trump’s voters would vote the same way again because 1) they’re insane (see Einstein’s definition of insanity); or 2) “but her emails!”.

    • FAEN

      You beat me to it.

    • JWC

      Oh that would be their drum beat even if Hillary never ran again

      • Rocco Gibraltar

        Please do not let her run again…should have been Biden.

        • JWC

          all of that is a chapter turned

          • Robincho

            Spilled milk under the bridge…

        • Feel the same about Bernie.

    • Stephen Elliot Phillips

      To them an insane, russian colluding dictator with his finger on the nuclear bomb is better than the best democrat.
      They really are a cult. They think theyre choosing another religion if they vote anything other than gop

    • Stephen Elliot Phillips

      To them an insane, russian colluding dictator with his finger on the nuclear bomb is better than the best democrat.
      They really are a cult. They think theyre choosing another religion if they vote anything other than gop

    • DonnaLee

      No they wouldn’t, a few have said on the air that they would not. For as many as are willing to show their faces, many more would quietly have just not voted for him in hindsight.

      • Jamie_Johnson

        While I appreciate your hopeful observation, I can’t agree. Even with the devastating poll numbers (which as the election proved, mean nothing), the forces that drove Trump into the White House have not changed. The people who voted for Trump have not changed. The fundamental shift that tips the scales against someone like Trump has not happened, and unfortunately, that shift must be so painful and directly impact the people who voted for him that it will shake the very foundations of our democracy.

  • FAEN

    But what percentage will STILL vote for him? You’d be surprised.

    • Todd20036

      No I wouldn’t. It’s around 80%

  • crewman

    If Fox News is presenting a poll that says Trump is doing badly the primary information I take from that is that Fox News wants to spread the message that Trump is doing badly.

    • Michael White

      maybe Ryan wants to start impeachment so Pence will push their agenda. Spineless wonder will not move against the masses in regards to the orange turd. So he has asked Fox noise to move the unwashed rabble

    • kaydenpat

      Perhaps they’ve figured out that Republicans in Congress can actually get things done if Trump is replaced with Pence. I can’t see any other reason for them putting out this negative info about Dear Leader otherwise.

      • robindaybird

        There’s a change in regime at Fox, and sounds like Murdoch’s kids are seeing the tea party as a limited audience, and don’t forget – Trump has trashed Fox before, not to the extend he did CNN.

      • DaMoldBrok

        We can only hope that Mueller has found the poop on Pence. Take down the whole administration in one fail swoop !

        • kaydenpat

          Yep. They all must go.

  • Tomcat

    Is Fox news trying to turn HONEST for once?

    • FAEN

      LMAO! Dear Jeebus that made me belly laugh.

    • Tomcat

      Even THEY have to wake up and smell the coffee burning sometime.

    • Jamie_Johnson

      Nah; if they were being honest, the “tearing the country apart” numbers would be in the high 80s. The rest.. well, they don’t see anything beyond an (R) or (D) after the name.

    • JWC

      The Murdochs are not pleased

    • Joe in PA

      Bwahahahaha.

      • djcoastermark

        And I’ll chime in with a second Bwahhahaha.

    • lymis

      Nah. The polling went like this:
      “In your opinion, on a scale of 1 to 5, with 1 being “tearing the country apart,” and 5 being “uniting the country”, how do you rate PresidentTrump?

      “1”

      “Remember, that 1 is “tearing the country apart.” Would you like to change your answer?”

      “No. 1.”

      “You’re sure? You can always give a higher number.”

      “Yes, I’m sure. 1.”

      “Just to be clear, you’re a Republican?”

      “Yes.”

      “And you don’t want to change your answer?”

      “No.”

      “Sigh.”

      /s

      • stuckinthewoods

        …tabulates answer as “3”

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  • SoCalGal20

    I mentioned this in the previous thread but Fox commissioned polls are highly regarded. 538 gives then an “A” grade.

    • Todd Allis

      Wow, I would not have expected.

      • SoCalGal20

        Yes, their commissioned polls are actually very good. Interestingly, they have one company that polls Rs and a separate company that polls Ds then they put the info together. I wonder if that may be a reason their polls tend to be quite solid.

        • Jamie_Johnson

          That’s an interesting methodology; interesting, but questionable.

          • SoCalGal20

            538 gives the an A grade so apparently it works, however they do it.

    • Cuberly

      Heh, but as we all know, for the Cult45, all polls are rigged since the election.

    • SoCalGal20
    • kaydenpat

      That’s shocking. Highly regarded and Fox News don’t often go hand in hand.

  • Sam_Handwich
    • ElenorRigby

      we’ll see.. the only poll that counts is the election.

    • SFBruce

      Thanks for posting this. I’ve been under the impression that he’s disapproval has stayed fairly steady at 35%-40%. But this shows an undeniable downward trend, albeit that downward trend line should be a helluva lot straighter.

      • clay

        They’re samples. That’s both noise AND sampling error and reliability.

    • Kevin Perez

      The Gallop Trumpodile’s teeth keep growing.

  • Tomcat

    Lets hear from the GOP polling Rasmussen.

  • JWC

    When you see a Trump rally and you see the “on Camera ” cheering squad that is behind him. If that is a slice of American , then people be worried be very worried

    • Tomcat

      I have noticed the same people behind him are the same ones that were behind him in the original rallies. I am sure they have a list of these people and call them back for each rally. I would love to see pictures of first and second rallies next to each other. Some of the people behind him have been there so much they even look familiar now,

      • JWC

        Maybe its film of the first played back on a green screen

        • carrot festival

          Worked for Joel Osteen and all those disposable diapers.

          • RoFaWh

            Did you mean to say that Osteen has an address to which we can send dirty diapers?

  • Mrs. Councillor Nugent

    But I understand his golf is getting better, with all the practice. . .

    • FAEN

      But but he said he isn’t golfing. Even when he’s on the course swinging a club he isn’t golfing-he’s ‘working’.

      • David Walker

        “Nice work if you can get it, and you can get it if you try.” Well, maybe doesn’t apply to everyone after all.

  • Bluto

    Unfair! I have the best maga, believe me! My maga is the most beautiful maga! I’ve maga’d more than all the loser presidents before combined! Fire & fury maga! https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a70feb2d79951b572a092cda642af9c676c16eedd3eebdf61668cccc65943835.gif

    • Todd Allis

      I wonder how many kids will dress as Trump for Halloween this year.

      • Cucker “Dick” Tarlson

        Lots. It’s scarier than an orange, white trash zombie — oh, wait.

      • clay

        Damn, now I’m imagining the costume industry’s attempts at a “sexy Trump” for adults.

        • RoFaWh

          They could include tits like Melanoma’s, complete with several liters of liquid silicone.

        • Todd Allis

          Ew, that thought had not crossed my mind until now.

          • clay

            Hope, instead, for Kathy Griffith as Yael/Judith.

    • Stephen Elliot Phillips

      Ok. I just had an LSD flashback.

  • JWC

    I amm so so tired of discussing Trump He is a poorly written trash novel that never ends

    • Cucker “Dick” Tarlson

      He celebrates trash, especially the racist white kind.

      • JWC

        cheap and tawdry

    • kaydenpat

      And we have 3 1/2 years left to discuss him and he’s getting worse. Huge sigh.

      • Galvestonian

        He is NOT gonna last that long … no friggin’ way.

        • JCF

          Well, by this poll, a majority says he will.

          Not for nuthin’: hope for the best, but expect the worst.

    • MT YVR

      (deeeeeep breath)
      THIS IS THE STUPID THAAAT NEVER EEEEENDS!!!
      (singing)

      • JWC

        so fucking tedious YVR I worked there once

        • MT YVR

          … I’m … not sure of this. So, by way of explanation? The Song That Never Ends. (Sherri and Lambchop) In reference to Trump’s stupid that never ends.

          This is just in case. I’m not sure if you just said I’m fucking tedious, YVR is or Trump is. So… yep. There. Just in case I inadvertently insulted y’all, that’s what that was supposed to be.

          • JWC

            No I meant Trump et al are tedious YVR is an airport code and I said I once worked there and the reference the Sherrie Lewis an Lambchop was appreciated

          • MT YVR

            I often need remedial ‘net reading. Apologies!

    • bzrd

      a lot of people like to read the ending first, please do and make our dreams come true

  • AtticusP

    I suppose that is encouraging, but it still means that 1/3 of the people polled have lost their fucking minds.

    Trump bringing the country together?

    I want what they’re smoking.

    • Cuberly

      25%+ of the country are pretty much unsalvageable.

      • Robincho

        The unsalvageable 25% is the sewageable 25%…

    • UrsusArctos

      But, he is a uniter! 2/3 of the country IS united – in their disgust with the 45* administration.

    • SoCalGal20

      He’s bringing all the Nazis together.

    • Stephen Elliot Phillips

      Bringing white supremecists together

    • Robincho

      Um, no, actually, you don”t…

      • AtticusP

        I see your point.

    • kaydenpat

      Uniting the Rights. Bringing racists together. It’s all good.

  • Megrim Twist

    He’s going to get a lot of us killed. Maybe not all of us, but a lot of us. And, make a lot of money at the same time. It’s the most disgusting display of arrogance I have ever witnessed.

    • Robincho

      Remember when JFK welcomed some Nobel laureates to the WH, saying something like, “Here is the most admirable collection of genius ever to assemble at the WH. With the possible exception of when Jefferson dined alone.”

      I do. And can you imagine anything even REMOTELY resembling this in the WH of these current times?…

      • He was speaking at dinner, and I believe his words were “gathered at this table”. At which of course Mr Jefferson had frequently dined alone.

  • Rebecca Gardner

    OT, but you’ve got to be fucking kidding me!!!!!!!!!!!
    I guess he’ll be appointed to set up the concentration camp shower and oven facilities.

    FUCK THE WORLD!

    https://twitter.com/JakeSherman/status/902930131039158273

    • FAEN

      I have no idea who that guy is.

      • Stogiebear

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Malek

        EDIT: Personal life
        Malek is married to Marlene A. Malek. They have two children, and reside in McLean, Virginia.
        In 1959, at age 22, Malek was arrested along with five other men in Vicary’s Park near Peoria, Illinois, after police found their car spattered with blood, and a dog that had been skinned, gutted and spitted over a barbecue pit in the park. Malek and the other men were charged with cruelty to animals, but the charges against Malek were dropped after one of the others confessed to killing the dog and said he acted alone. Malek has claimed that he did not participate in the incident.

        • FAEN

          Jesus! They all deserve to die slowly and painfully.

        • Lazycrockett

          “Hey what do you want to do for fun tonight guys?”

        • Lazycrockett

          “Hey what do you want to do for fun tonight guys?”

        • jimbo65

          Great. So the guy probably has serial killing tendencies that he’s successfully suppressed . Or at least not been caught yet.

        • kaydenpat

          What’s up with Conservatives and violence against dogs? Just awful, cruel people.

          • clay

            Maybe if Trump had had a dog . . . his psychopathy would have been identified and made public at an earlier age.

          • RoFaWh

            Ever notice no one in Dishonest Donnie’s family has a pet? [Possible exception: Tiffany.]

          • Stogiebear

            They start with small animals, work up to larger ones, and eventually graduate to human beings.

        • JCF

          Loathesome.

    • SoCalGal20

      Holy moly, this guy was in the Nixon Administration!

      From wiki:

      In the first Nixon administration, Malek designed and directed the “Responsiveness Program”, a strategy to replace civil servants with Nixon supporters and to steer government resources to benefit Nixon’s 1972 re-election.[12][13][14] According to the Senate Watergate report, Malek wrote in a 1972 memo to Haldeman that someone was needed to “take the lead in the program to politicize Departments and Agencies” and to “supervise the patronage operation and closely monitor the grantmanship operation.”[15] In advocating the plan, Malek wrote of “substantial risks” to politicizing the Executive Branch and expressed concern that the plan would “undoubtably backfire” if made public; therefore he recommended that “to minimize any links to the President, there should be no directions on this project in writing.”

      • SoCalGal20

        Also from Wiki:

        In 1971, Richard Nixon became convinced the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) had come under the control of Democratic rivals and what Nixon termed a “Jewish cabal.” He instructed aides Charles Colson and H. R. Haldeman to identify a list of Democrats and “important Jewish officials” at the agency.[18]

        Malek provided the data on Democrats after a check of voter registration rolls, but balked at fulfilling the rest of Nixon’s query. “I refused four times. The fifth time he came back and gave me a direct order through Haldeman, so I gave him a number. I regret my compliance. It was a mistake.”[19] Malek did not have access to BLS employees’ religious affiliations, so his list comprised those BLS employees with “Jewish-sounding names”, and two months after he sent the list, two of the officials on it were reassigned to “less visible jobs” within the Labor Dept.[20] Slate columnist Timothy Noah, however, asserts that a September 8, 1971 memo from Malek to Haldeman appears to contradict Malek’s assertions of limited involvement, in which Malek states he has recommended to the Secretary of Labor “fairly drastic moves” including the “compromise” reassignment of three officials. Documents released by the Nixon library in January 2010 also appear to contradict Malek’s statement.[18][21][22]

        • Rebecca Gardner

          Now you’re beginning to understand my original post about showers and ovens.

          • SoCalGal20

            Yes!

        • kaydenpat

          It’s always about the Jews with these guys.

    • jimbo65

      Honestly where does this guy get his ideas for cabinet picks? He can’t possibly know all these horrible people. He certainly isn’t smart enough or motivated enough to pick the most awful people out of a cracker jack box. I’m sure the equally vile Pence, if not Bannon himself from behind the scenes are the source of all this asshattery.

  • Blobby

    the problem is: FOX viewers think Dump tearing the country apart is a GOOD thing.

    • Macbill

      Rich folk will love the new monetary unit that supersedes the old, worthless monetary unit.

  • David Walker

    Keith talks about the civil war prospects.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPY3Q-0KN48

    • Ross

      Thank you, David.

      I love me Keith.

    • Ross

      Thank you, David.

      I love me Keith.

    • Lars Littlefield

      Q: Would the sudden death of Roger Stone put America in peril?
      A: Nope. How do we arrange that?*

      *Note:I’m not advocating killing Roger Stone. Not at all. Not me.

      • Silver Badger

        And make him a martyr? Not even on a bet. Let him do his prison time with the rest of them.

        • Galvestonian

          …well, you could do it the way Putin does – have a cement truck’s brakes fail in traffic and T-bone his car…in Putin’s arrangement the driver of the truck was assassinated in hospital after Putin’s opposition was mangled into mince-meat. Tragic …simply tragic. Putin wept at the funeral.

          • Silver Badger

            I could live with that. Those resources are expensive though and should be used for bigger fish than Stone.

    • Cuberly

      That 25% of the country that actually voted for him are going to revolt?

      What is it with “conservatives” where they always think they have a mandate even when it’s completely implausible and f’n delusional.

  • Joe in PA

    So, bets on Trump calling this “fake news”?

    • kaydenpat

      Since it’s from Fox News, I can’t see him doing that. He’ll probably just ignore it. He usually loves Rasmussen polls since they tend to show him as more popular than other polls.

  • AtticusP
    • Dreaming Vertebrate

      “You fools, it’s getting away!”

  • Blake J Butler

    Shocking. Shocking. I’ll tell you. Now you’re going to tell me water isn’t wet…….. oh wait it is ?

  • Blake J Butler

    Shocking. Shocking. I’ll tell you. Now you’re going to tell me water isn’t wet…….. oh wait it is ?

  • Natty Enquirer

    Fox takes another step away from Trump.

  • Natty Enquirer

    Fox takes another step away from Trump.

  • Lars Littlefield

    Rep.Shirley Jackson (D Texas) has a few adult words for Trump and his presidency. At least all Texas politicians are not assholes. We need to drill down hard on Cruz and his tendency to lie about the truth to get him booted from the Senate.

    • kaydenpat

      Unfortunately, his constituents probably adore him. Gohmert is just as bad and keeps getting elected.

  • Lars Littlefield

    Rep.Shirley Jackson (D Texas) has a few adult words for Trump and his presidency. At least all Texas politicians are not assholes. We need to drill down hard on Cruz and his tendency to lie about the truth to get him booted from the Senate.

  • Dreaming Vertebrate

    Dumpf: Fake news!!! Fake polls!!!
    Kelly: Mr President, this is from Fox.
    Dumpf: Bring me a chocolate cake and the entire tub of ice cream!!!

  • SFBruce

    Interesting poll. Scanning the whole thing, this is what jumped out at me. When asked how satisfied they are with the direction of the country, 65% say they are unsatisfied, while of the 35% of those who say they are satisfied, only 4% say are very satisfied.

    • Robincho

      And that there’s the 4% you don’t NEVER wanna run into…

      • Cackalaquiano

        They’re certainly way too stupid to see beyond some personal good fortune that happened to find them right before the poll. Like they got laid, or were drunk, or won a bet, or had just eaten. Something had their dopamine up.

        • Robincho

          Pretty much anything can put the dope back in their dopamine…

      • Nick in Pasadena

        They’re either incredibly dumb or incredibly white and rich.

        • Robincho

          Your three adjectives tend toward mutual compatibility

  • jimbo65

    All one needs to see is that he’s out there talking tax cuts for the rich while Texas is still suffering. Keep it classy asshole.

    • JWC

      Well trump pardon Sherriff Joe at the start of Kevin for ratings

    • kaydenpat

      Just another example of his lack of empathy.

    • M Jackson

      Texans should see the top-bracket tax cuts that they were promised.

  • TexasBoy

    Wow, when did Fox start reporting Fake News?

    • Mikey

      Well, we’ve always called them Faux News.

  • Dreaming Vertebrate

    Has Hannity chimed in? Surely he will find the silver lining so our toddler-in-chief does not go to bed cranky!

    • Cuberly

      That 56% was only polled on the coasts!!1!1!!
      That 56% are all elites with an anti-trump agenda!!1!!!!
      That 56% are all antifa leftists!!1!!!

      Etc… you could actually turn this into a new game. What would Lumpy say?

  • Rebecca Gardner

    OK folks, I can’t take politics anymore. I’m down to the eat my gun level of sadness. So I’m going to focus on the other things I love and if I post here again this week please yell at me.

    First order of business? Watch a fun video. If my life had a theme song this might be it. Fast Machine? Yes please! I still have no idea how fast I’ve gone on a motorcycle because I always run out of speedometer.

    Be well everyone. I need to focus on healing and getting back into competitive cycling condition and being able to SCUBA again. Love you all!

    https://youtu.be/qlywcuw-1TU

    • Mikey
    • John Ruff

      Yeah, I just finished beating off

    • clay

      Take care, and I expect you back here when it will do you some good.

    • M Jackson

      On Twitter I follow Joe, Cher, Bette Midler… and you. Don’t make me wait too long.

    • Friday

      *hugs.* Ride safe if you’re riding, and now you got that song (And a Celica GT build I’ve been dreaming of doing) stuck in my head again. 🙂

    • PhillyProfessor

      I have no idea what your real voice sounds like, Rebecca. But the voice I hear in my head when I read your posts is really beautiful, and I will miss hearing it while you take time to regain your strength. We want you healthy and sane. Here’s a ride I like..:)
      https://youtu.be/QCxuugoMXBU

  • ultragreen

    The 33% who think Trump is drawing the country closer together are either lunatics, or they just said it for kicks.

    • billbear1961

      They’re like the 48% of Republicans who say Trump, Jr. didn’t meet with Russians despite his admission that he did!

  • John Ruff

    Holy Jesus FUCKING Christ! This is from Fox News??????

    • whollyfool

      Yes, but they don’t ask if tearing the country apart is a good thing or a bad thing.

  • johnsmart

    Love this but still the Democrats are pathetic. Schumer and Pelosi seem to think they are planning a grandchild’s themed bat mitzvah, not leading the opposition. – and if Menedez is gone before Jan – entirely likely – the ACA will, in fact, be toast… Democrats are leaderless – we have GOT to get rid of Pelosi and Schumer and get some people with focus and energy willing to attack trump day in and day out.

    • SoCalGal20

      I’m all for Maxine Waters taking over everything (at least the anti-Trump messaging) but Pelosi is good at herding the Dem caucus for votes and she has been speaking out. And Dems can’t win. If they speak out about Trump time and again, which Pelosi and Schumer HAVE, they get dragged for not speaking about ISSUES. If they seemingly don’t speak out about Trump enough (how often is enough?) then they get dragged for doing nothing. They can’t do much legislatively because they are the minority party and Rs won’t stand with them. So what, exactly, are they supposed to be doing?

      • kaydenpat

        Definitely yes to Rep Waters. Not sure who could replace Schumer in the Senate although I like Senator Harris.

        • SoCalGal20

          Chris Murphy and Kamala Harris.

      • Cackalaquiano

        Fair point, but the Dems have an institutional inability to message effectively. Year after year. Case in point: that unforgivably stupid “Have you seen the other guys” brand they recently rolled out (please tell me that was a hoax).
        It’s like they all sit in their urban beltway bubble and think all of America thinks like they and their liberal urban friends do.
        Maybe we need a Democratic people-to-people exchange program, so the folks can get out into America and start to understand the diversity of thought in the interior.

        • SoCalGal20

          I do agree the messaging from the DCCC and DNC is pretty useless. “A Better Deal” which seems to be the DNC slogan? It’s weak it’s too uncomfortably close to Paul Ryan’s ridiculous “A Better Way” ACA repeal. HELLO, how about “The BEST Deal” and then explain why. Or, you know, why not use “A New Deal for the 21st Century”?

          But it’s not like Dem Reps and Senators aren’t speaking out, talking about issues, holding town halls and the like.

      • billbear1961

        If a Democratic administration were mired in even ONE-TENTH this amount of SCANDAL, Republicans AND the media would be screaming for BLOOD!

        That racist PIG in the Oval Office is undermining the rule of LAW by repeatedly obstructing justice! There is ample PROOF of that! It’s not his ONLY crime, but it’s the GRAVEST!! He’s a proven pathological LIAR, and he’s leaving 80% of posts in the Executive branch vacant; for 62% he hasn’t even NOMINATED anyone for the Senate to consider!!

        Even without what Mueller may uncover, we have MORE than enough fully legitimate reasons to DEMAND his IMMEDIATE removal from power!

        Democrats should be organizing massive and RELENTLESS protests to DEMAND his removal from office!!

    • clay

      OR you could try picking a leader with executive experience for an executive position, rather than one with legislative experience.

    • kaydenpat

      They’re probably counting on the fact that Trump is so horrible that no one will want to be associated with him by next November. They need to be more aggressive in opposing him and provide alternate policies to those proposed by the Republicans.

      • Cackalaquiano

        ^^THIS^^

  • aar9n

    It’s Fox news. They probably hit the wrong button

  • Blake J Butler

    Did anyone miss the Fairfax county special school board election last night, where a democratic candidate picked up a seat vacated by a republican candidate ?

    Karen Keys-Gamarra won against Chris Gasafe, endorsed by white supremacists, DUH, lost by 20,000 votes.

    http://www.insidenova.com/news/fairfax/local/keys-gamarra-wins-special-election-for-fairfax-school-board-seat/article_7c8c306c-8d25-11e7-8808-f3499983c9bb.html

    • SoCalGal20

      Yay! I did see that. That’s what we need to be doing everywhere. Run for ALL the elected positions from school board to President.

      • RoFaWh

        But start with school boards and thus start combating ignorance and superstition.

  • Cuberly

    Lets say Donnie makes it to the 2020 election sans impeachment. Would the GOP primary him? I’m thinking Rubio, maybe Kasich, Cruz would be walking a tightrope. TX does like donnie.

    • SoCalGal20

      Don’t forget Pence and his PAC.

      • Cuberly

        Oooooooo, that could be seriously ugly. Heh heh…..

        • SoCalGal20

          Donnie Two Scoops will have him whacked lol.

          • Cuberly

            Ha!

  • Friday

    You know, it’s one thing if 30 percent of people for some bigoted or stupid reason or other for some reason *approve* of Trump’s shenanigans and BS, …but they’d have to be in an entirely different freaking universe to be under the delusion any of this aggro is *unifying.*

    • clay

      Bubbles within bubbles.

    • Edmund Allin

      Yeah, that’s what surprised me. Approval I can understand. In order to think that suddenly all these denunciations, demonstrations, and even occasional violence is a response to “unifying”, you’ve got to have a pretty sick idea of how to unify people.

  • kaydenpat

    I’d like to get some of what the 33% who think Trump is uniting this country are drinking. And I don’t even drink.

    • JWC

      or more than likley smoking

      • edrex

        huffing.

    • Cackalaquiano

      I don’t think any amount of alcohol can erase enough of your past education and innate empathy to make you as utterly horrible as those people must be.
      (Yes, I just “othered” 1/3 of American voters.)

      • kaydenpat

        It’s okay to “other” such horrid people.

    • RoFaWh

      The deplorables don’t want to unit the country. If they could manage it, they’d simply drive the non-deplorables into the sea.

      Fortunately not possible, as they are heavily outnumbered.

  • Lazycrockett
    • SoCalGal20

      Tick tock assholes!

      Rachel had a fantastic segment on this guy last week (?) – maybe it was earlier this week. He has organized hacking operations for corporate clients before.

      • billbear1961

        Yes, for Russia’s gangster oligarchs.

    • JWC

      and I don’t think he is allowed to discuss that with Donny Jr the rope is tightening

    • Skeptical_Inquirer

      I’ll admit it. I so wish I was on that grand jury because I’d know things instead of having to speculate so damn much.

  • Ken M
    • clay

      Is what real? Esquire, Gentleman’s Quarterly, Teen Vogue, there have been several surprising media outlets lately.

      • Ken M

        Cute..I was referring to the story. FOX seems to be going over the deep end.

  • Clive Johnson

    So much winning…I’m just at saturation.

  • heh, i hope Joe sees this. i’ve been to Hell, it’s an amusing little town in a sea of right wing hate. please consider visiting, if you’re ever on the freeway that runs thru it, on your way to/from Chicago, Toronto, etc. https://twitter.com/elijahdaniel/status/902979339532333056/photo/1

    • ZhyKitty

      LMAO That was awesome! Thanks for sharing it!!

    • Friday

      Only prudent, at least until you figure out what the hell is going on. 🙂

    • whollyfool

      That’s brilliant!!!

    • JCF

      I’ve been to Hell! A good friend of mine wanted to celebrate her birthday there (back when I lived in Michigan). They’ve got a ginormous biker bar w/ really good food. 🙂

      @ChiDyke: there’s a highway that runs right through, but it’s not on the freeway. It’s actually a really pretty part of the central mitten! [Lower Michigan]. My friend’s birthday was late September: leaves just starting to turn, a lovely creek that flows right through town…mmm.

  • Michael R

    There’s that fucking 33% again

  • misterjack

    Since Fuxx is the only “news” Orangeturd watches, he will see this. Hopefully, it sets him off, bigly.

    • Stephen Elliot Phillips

      Hopefully a stroke event

      • RoFaWh

        Am I allowed to wish bad things to happen to Dishonest Donnie? If so, I hope he begins to suffer from chronic bleeding from the anus. Nothing life threatening, but a constant and uncontrollable drip, drip, drip of blood.

        Knowing Dishonest Donnie’s rep, it might be the blue blood of a crustacean.

      • Galvestonian

        give him the same bucket of pretzels that ‘ol “W” was chawing om when he had that attack and bashed his noggin.

  • Nick in Pasadena

    Yes, but just wait until he “pivots” and “grows into the office”.

    • RoFaWh

      Too late.

  • Michael R

    A Molly Ivins quote I have to share :
    ( She’d have been 73 today , thanks Wonkette )

    ” There are two kinds of humor. One kind that makes us chuckle about our foibles and our shared humanity — like what Garrison Keillor does. The other kind holds people up to public contempt and ridicule — that’s what I do. Satire is traditionally the weapon of the powerless against the powerful. I only aim at the powerful. When satire is aimed at the powerless, it is not only cruel — it’s vulgar. “

    • Robincho

      Missin’ her SO damn much…

    • M Jackson

      You had me at “Molly”.

    • kareemachan

      Jeez, I miss Molly.

      Someone in the office didn’t know she had passed on. o.O

  • Treant

    OT: I went for my at-home sleep study (so they toss the machinery at you and show you how to put it on. It’s easy). While I was there, in the sleep study room, they had Fox on talking about Antifa and all the myriad places and times and horror of their violence.

    I turned the damned thing off without asking, I wasn’t going to listen to that crap.

    • Friday

      Frankly, I *still* don’t know if they’re agents provocateur in the first place, but there’s *no* pretense on their part they represent ‘liberals’ the way the Republicans have embraced the ‘far-Right.’ ie, Klan, Nazis, Dominionists, and other usual suspects.

    • edrex

      hell. i turned cnn off today in my gym locker room b/c it was reporting on the first idiot’s visit to missouri. no one complained.

    • JCF

      I was at the gym today, and someone had FOX on: yeah, I noticed they were ALL about antifa…

      • Treant

        It’s bad when you can sit there through a “news” “report” and keep muttering, “Citation required. Factually incorrect. Blatant lie. Citation Required…”

  • billbear1961

    The U.S. has entered a state of incipient fascism. What are Democrats doing to sound the alarm and SAVE THE REPUBLIC??

    As members of an organized political party loyal to the Constitution, Democratic leaders should be organizing massive and relentless protests to drive Trump from office. Even without what Mueller may uncover, we already have more than enough fully legitimate cause to demand the racist dictator’s removal from power NOW: he has undermined the rule of law by repeatedly obstructing justice.

    Lurching Toward the First Constitutional Crisis Since the Civil War

    ………………

    As the author of a book on France under fascism, Charles Kaiser asserted, what Americans are experiencing today is “exactly what incipient fascism looks like.” Most Americans comprehend that Trump’s unrelenting assault on the press, inflaming Nazis and heartening racists, and now pardoning an acknowledged serial civil rights abuser and brazen racist are indeed “acts of a man who is blatantly defying his sacred pledge to uphold the Constitution of the United States.” But those Americans likely don’t comprehend that Trump’s defiance of the Constitution portends the naked fascism lurking on the horizon.

    Arpaio’s pardon is wrong on myriad levels; only racists, evangelicals, most Republicans, and Trump believe otherwise. But it was deliberately “wrong” [in order] to send a very clear message that Trump has no regard for, and no intent to ever adhere to, the rule of law or the U.S. Constitution. It was bad enough when it was Arpaio violating the rule of law and the Constitution with impunity, but when it is the monster in the White House it is a constitutional crisis that Republicans show no willingness to thwart.

    Look, Trump didn’t even wait for Arpaio to be sentenced, or go through the normal Justice Department channels necessary to petition for a presidential pardon; Trump just said Arpaio was treated “very unfairly” and was only punished for “doing his job.” It is tantamount to saying that refusing to adhere to a constitutional federal court order is legal if it comports with Trump law.

    Of course the pardon is a signal to every racist law enforcement officer, and armed white supremacist vigilante, that rounding up innocents and abusing them is legal, and just their job. But more than that it is a message to America that Donald J. Trump is now the law of the land; it is fascism and the act of a tyrannical dictator that Republicans will not regulate. As Charles Kaiser rightly asserted, Trump pardoning Arpaio “is the latest and gravest step he has taken in his continuing efforts to undermine the rule of law.”

    Mr. Kaiser is not the first legal expert to explain that although Trump reveled in inciting his racist supporters, “it is not the main reason for this heinous act.” Kaiser and several other legal authorities expect that Trump is signaling to all of his current and former underlings and family members that they too are under no obligation to adhere to the law, or the Constitution, or a summons from Special Counsel Robert Mueller III. If they are held in contempt by Mr. Mueller or a congressional committee investigating Trump’s ties to Russia for not cooperating, they can ignore any risk or threat of jail time because Trump will pardon them.

    America has been in a constitutional crisis since the day Trump was inaugurated and it is down to one simple fact; he was always intent on using the authority of the Oval Office solely to benefit himself. Whether it is profiting by keeping his “vast business empire” under his control or keeping his friends out of jail, Trump has abused the federal government office he has no right holding.

    By giving Arpaio a pardon, Trump showed Americans, Congress and the Judiciary that he will use his authority to keep a political ally, former underling, mafia friend, or family member out of jail no matter the severity of their crimes. What Trump accomplished in pardoning an evil monster was “obliterating any lines that remain between the chief executive [Branch] and an independent system of justice.”

    Trump is now the system of justice according to his executive authority and Republicans are complicit for accepting this atrocity as life in Trump’s America. Trump will certainly pursue neutering the legislative branch when an opportunity arises to consolidate all federal government power in his tiny little hands; it is what fascist dictators do as a matter of course.

    In pardoning Arpaio, Trump incited his racist supporters to his defense, legalized civil right’s abuses and detainees’ murders, and created a “class of citizens who are above the law;” including all of his administration’s cronies and particularly himself. It is what any semi-intelligent human being would call a fascist dictatorship. Americans will call it the first honest-to-dog “constitutional crisis” since the Civil War.

    https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/8/29/1694260/-Lurching-Toward-the-First-Constitutional-Crisis-Since-the-Civil-War

    • Jmdintpa

      I have seen your other post and have posted myself that I think Trump is only the start. Its going to get way worse. I get called all sorts of names and troll etc when I do. I think people are underestimating the hate and the power hungriness that is overtaking this country now.

      • billbear1961

        They ARE!

        Keep sounding the alarm, Jmdintpa!

  • billbear1961

    If Putin wanted to concoct the ideal candidate to serve his purposes, his laboratory creation would look like Donald Trump. The Republican nominee wants to shatter our military alliances in Europe; he cheers the destruction of the European Union; he favors ratcheting down tensions with Russia over Ukraine and Syria, both as a matter of foreign policy and in service of his own pecuniary interests. A Trump presidency would weaken Putin’s greatest geo-strategic competitor. By stoking racial hatred, Trump will shred the fabric of American society. He advertises his willingness to dismantle constitutional limits on executive power. In his desire to renegotiate debt payments, he would ruin the full faith and credit of the United States. One pro-Kremlin blogger summed up his government’s interest in this election with clarifying bluntness: “Trump will smash America as we know it, we’ve got nothing to lose.”

    http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/cover_story/2016/07/vladimir_putin_has_a_plan_for_destroying_the_west_and_it_looks_a_lot_like.html

    This Slate article came out in July 2016!!

    No one, in a prominent public position, would fucking listen to the warnings!!

  • Now even Faux News will be called Fake News by 45.
    Sadly, 41% or 33% still don’t get it.

  • Michael R

    No one is asking me
    ” What did you see on your walk tonight ? ”
    so I’ll tell it anyway
    I found a Paw Paw shaped like one of my favorite things , the salt and pepper from Eva Zeisel’s 1947 dinnerware line ” Town and Country :
    Eva Zeisel died in 2011 at 105 and was still working .
    She has a lot of great designs and had an interesting complicated life .

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f8326b7a40e4064aaa6f7f4e74a4f90267c02f5d08c750ebfff7ced8573c85c2.jpg

    • stuckinthewoods

      Shape reminds me of Al Capp’s shmoos.

      • Michael R
        • stuckinthewoods

          Reading her Wiki entry does make me wonder about Capp taking the shape, especially since it says initially the pottery was made in all-white as shmmos were. Have to say the idea of shmoos, an animal that wanted to be eaten, creeped me out as a kid.
          Sounds like Zeisel had a very interesting life and the reference to her mother struck me. Wiki said her Hungarian mother Laura Polyani Striker researched Captain John Smith’s adventures in Ottoman Hungary prior to his time in the Jamestown Colony in Virginia. The fable John Smith told of Pocahontas rescuing him is familiar to Americans. However Smith had already told virtually the same princess story happening to him in Hungary, and I wonder if it was her mother Laura Striker who discovered that, colonial history being one of my interests. Her mother has no separate entry in Wiki but I’ll keep an eye out for the name Laura Striker now…thanks to the paw paw you happened on.

    • leastyebejudged

      Enjoy those pawpaws ! The two weeks or so is just too short…

    • kareemachan

      Cool!

    • edrex

      your story makes me really happy. nice way to end the evening.

    • perversatile

      Silly Things That Make Me Happy #13- Stangl’s ”Antique Gold” glaze when it doesn’t turn out quiet right and the lilac under painting shows through- https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/4d855989160559a4f2ec7f3b393c68f6448ee7eeea4f0dc2a65e55640b9832a8.jpg

  • ohbear1957
  • BigGuy

    It’s amazing how good W seems in comparison.

  • bkmn

    And its on Fox, so Trump will see this…and it is a Fox poll

  • leastyebejudged

    The 56% isn’t the issue, that stubborn 33% is the problem that needs to be handled.

    • bkmn

      I’m hoping a government shutdown that delays Social Security checks might help that number

      • leastyebejudged

        That kinda backfired on us last time, besides, I’m not blaming all elderly people anymore than I’m blaming all white males and all millennials.

        And then there’s that pesky issue of college educated women nobody wants to really come to grips with.

        It’s funny to me how angry everyone is at their stupid little bubbles being burst.

  • JerryRich

    Fake news! I’m sure the numbers are lower higher (in disapproval) than what Fox shows.

  • andrew

    I know that these low Trump approval ratings are supposed to be encouraging, but the fact that 33% of those polled think that Trump is “drawing country together” is incomprehensible.

  • ian

    No doubt they fudged the figures to make it appear better than it really is, but they can only do so much.

    • CB

      It’s all in how they frame the questions, and since it’s Faux, you can bet their bias is towards supporting drumpf.

  • another_steve

    The data from all the polls are pretty firm at this point in time: Approximately 1/3rd of Americans are deplorable.

    Dreck.

    Garbage.

  • Galvestonian

    Oh hell … wait until the tax deal doesn’t go anywhere and the stock market
    crashes … October ’29 was a non-event compared to what’s ahead.

  • kareemachan

    He IS drawing the country together – in disgust with him and his asshat crap.

  • PhillyProfessor

    FAKE NEWS from ….. what….wait….. are you telling me that….. er…. BENGHAZI! E-MAILS!

  • Gregor

    I remember in the very late 90s, people spoke about “Clinton fatigue.” I think many of us are already suffering from “Trump fatigue” — and we’re not even through the first year. I’m going to need a lot of alcohol to get through these next 3 1/2 years.

    • Johnny Wyeknot

      Try pot instead

  • DaMoldBrok

    In a hotel, no MSNBC, CNN froze, stuck with Faux Nauseum. Tucker Carlson is not only an idiot, he will have a special place in hell waiting on him. The orange kool-aid has rotted his soul. He just stated that liberals feel it’s perfectly fine to loot after a major natural disaster.

    No they are hoodlums that are looting, criminals! The average liberal wouldn’t contemplate taking something that doesn’t belong to them.

  • Kevin Perez
  • dcurlee

    Well I guess now Fox News is fake news

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  • JT

    Fux Noise, which has been pulling the country apart for decades, publishes a poll indicating that a fraudulent, treasonous, criminal President, whom they helped come to prominence, is pulling the country apart.

  • joe ho

    But the GOP voters would vote for him again in order to keep a Democrat out of office.

    That’s the kind of tribal loyalty liberals need to develop if they want to regain and hold on to power. Instead they will sabotage their own candidate if their feelings have been hurt or if the candidate doesn’t meet their purity standards. 2000. 2016.

  • Marti386

    What gets me more is the 33% who think he’s bringing the country together. Exactly a third of the population.

    I’ve found time and time again, no matter what the subject, a third of the country will be for something, no matter how asinine, and against something, no matter how good. Always around a third. Even if they’re totally different demographics.

    Douglas Adams once wrote about the “useless third of the population” in his Hitchhiker series, and I’ve found that to be spot on, no matter what.

    The only problem is, unlike in the book, we can’t ship them offworld, and then enjoy a period of bliss and prosperity until we’re all suddenly wiped out from a disease contracted from a dirty telephone. 😛

  • “Fake news, fake news, fake news,” said the Donald. “My own media is turning against me – fake polls, fake polls, fake polls!”