Mexico To Trump: Yeah, We’re Totally Still Not Paying

CNN reports:

The Mexican government again stressed its position that it will not pay for President Donald Trump’s proposed border wall. Trump tweeted Sunday morning: “With Mexico being one of the highest crime Nations in the world, we must have THE WALL. Mexico will pay for it through reimbursement/other.”

In response, the country’s foreign ministry released a statement saying Mexico would not pay for a wall or other physical barrier at the border “under any circumstances.” “This determination is not part of a Mexican negotiating strategy, but a principle of national sovereignty and dignity,” the statement said.

Earlier this month, Trump threatened a government shutdown should Congress not allocate money to build the wall that Mexico has refused to fund. The deadline for passing a spending bill to keep the government open is at the end of next month.

The Mexican foreign ministry’s statement also addressed Trump’s comment regarding crime in Mexico. The ministry said the crime is a “shared problem” for both countries and is caused in part by US demand for Mexican narcotics.

  • chris james

    Flogging this dead horse again….Trump would flog something else but he hasn’t seen it in years. Dump Trump.

    • MBear

      Git outta mah hed

    • clay

      I thought that’s what you meant by his “dead horse”.

      • Joe in PA

        Pony at best.

  • MBear

    image of expired horse being flogged

  • It’s worth noting that Mexico is once again doing the humanitarian thing and helping with disaster relief following a major gulf hurricane.

    http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/348231-mexico-offers-to-help-hurricane-harvey-victims-in-texas

    Mexico’s government is reaching out to the U.S. to offer help for the victims of Hurricane Harvey in Texas.

    Mexican Foreign Minister Luis Videgaray spoke with Texas Gov. Greg Abbott (R) by phone Sunday evening to offer aid “as good neighbors should always do in trying times,” the Dallas Morning News reported.

    “As we have done in the past, Mexico stands with Texas in this difficult moment,” said Carlos Gonzalez Gutierrez, the Mexican consul general in Austin.

    “The government of Mexico takes this opportunity to express its full solidarity with the people and government of the United States for the damages caused by Hurricane Harvey in Texas,” the Mexican Secretariat of Foreign Affairs said in a statement.

    They did this during Katrina, too.

    • JWC

      And Trump reminds them of the fuckin Wall

      • That’s because he’s a psychotic narcissistic monster. As we all knew.

        • Dan M

          You’re too kind.

          • I’m off my game today.

        • Ninja0980

          They know there are many people who hate Trump in the U.S. just as much as they do.

      • Adam King

        Completely idiotic. Inexcusable.

      • zhera

        The Washington Post had a story about tRump/Russia yesterday, and will probably continue with that this week. Expect more stupid shit from Donnie’s twitter…

        • JWC

          At least it Monday and hopefully Rachel

    • james1200

      One of my favorite scenes in The Day After Tomorrow. I have a feeling it will eventually come true under Herr Trump.

      https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/thhlk7ipofn9z6mmobiu.gif
      https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/gkmb4yxpjjxqbbsb6qja.gif

      • Tallulah

        Thank the FSM I’m already in Mexico!

    • Yes, and I wouldn’t be surprised if Trump tries to spin this as some sort of wall-payment in the form of humanitarian assistance.

  • Cuberly
    • Mikey

      Now I need to know! She’s demanding that their stinking piehole’s WHAT be shut???

      (Sarcastic grammar “alt-righteon” surfaces for unnecessary apostrophes.)

  • JWC

    Trump is much like having a conversation with an Alzheimers patient .He has 5 or 6 talking points and keeps going around and amoungst them. Never adding always repeating. In no way belittleling Alzheimers .my dad suffered and several of my older friendsdo as well

    • Stephen Elliot Phillips

      I watched a liberal minded man, my father, devolve into a scared conservative all because of parkinson’s

      • JWC

        yes the illnessess of old age are not kind

  • Tawreos

    He hasn’t learned yet that just because lines got him and still get him applause at campaign rallies don’t make sane people want to follow through on his bullshit. Sadly, he never will.

  • liondon#iamnotatraitor

    Someone take that megaphone away from that senile old man… we got a city to save.

  • GayOldLady

    “The ministry said the crime is a โ€œshared problemโ€ for both countries and is caused in part by US demand for Mexican narcotics.”

    Unlike Rick Perry who believes Supply comes first, the Government of Mexico has it totally right. No Demand, No Supply. No Drug Crime.The problem of drugs coming over any border is directly related to the Demand in America.

    • Treant

      Tru dat. You can have an infinite supply of coffee. But since I hate coffee and won’t drink it, I won’t buy any. Your supply did not drive my consumption because I find it distasteful.

      • Rambie

        I’ll take your coffee. ๐Ÿ˜‰

        • Treant

          You can have it, and my crank and meth, too. ๐Ÿ™‚

          Send your unwanted tea over here. I do prefer strong cured-leaf teas, but…

          • Joe in PA

            Your crank? Hmmm, around here, you’re gonna get a few takers. ๐Ÿ™‚

            Crack boy. ๐Ÿ™‚

          • Treant

            Crank actually IS meth. ๐Ÿ™‚ Ice is one of the other nicknames according to the NIH dictionary.

          • Joe in PA

            Once again your vocabulary has astonished me! ๐Ÿ™‚ I didn’t know that. My mind tends to stay in the gutter. ๐Ÿ™‚

          • Treant

            If you dig around, there are lots of great words in the gutter. “Oleaginous” comes to mind.

          • zhera

            Smooth, Treant!

          • CB

            OT. The name Crayola came from combining the French for chalk “Craie” with oleaginous. Literally “oily chalk.”

          • Tulle Christensen

            wait I thought crank was a fetish about getting off in cars

          • Treant

            I think that’s called “wet shifting.”

          • Tulle Christensen

            see even in my sixties I learn something new every day

          • RaygunsGoZap

            Really? Are you posting from 1989? LOL

          • Rambie

            You can find other’s for the crank and meth but I’ll gladly trade tea for coffee. ๐Ÿ˜‰

      • Daveed_WOW

        You don’t like coffee? Are you a communist?

        • Treant

          I stand pretty close to the Socialist-Capitalist border, actually. ๐Ÿ™‚

    • Skokieguy [Larry]

      Just read that the Coast Guard said that the majority of drugs that come into the country come by boat, not by land.

      • Smokey

        That’s why tRump wants to drastically slash their budget.

      • Cipher

        We might also want to focus on 2017 instead of 1977. Americans are dying in droves over pills provided by American pharmaceutical companies and trace amounts of powdered opiates spiked with a strong opioid. Dear leader needs to satisfy his racist deplorable followers and blame the brown people for everything.

      • GayOldLady

        Which makes total sense! So much easier to get into the country.

  • Jefe5084

    What a damned ogre this thing is. Launch him into space. Permanently. Give him a burnt steak and a bottle of catsup and send him off..

    • JWC

      and two scoops

      • Jefe5084

        No, give him only one. Let him writhe a little.

    • David L. Caster

      I think Trump as sacrifice in a volcano would be much more fitting.

      • BudClark

        Too quick and easy … a sulfuric acid drip in his asshole would be MUCH more satisfying to watch!

    • Stephen Elliot Phillips

      Id be happy if they mousilini-ed him
      “The bodies of Mussolini and Petacci were taken to Milan and left in a suburban square, the Piazzale Loreto, for a large angry crowd to insult and physically abuse. They were then hung upside down from a metal girder above a service station on the square.”

    • Cattleya1

      I hear Venus is nice and warm this time of year. I’ll bet we could crowdfund this.

  • Sam_Handwich
    • Mikey

      What has this world come to when a statement by W is deemed noble and statesman-like?

    • Joe in PA

      I’m sure it goes without saying…we’ll never see something like this from our current president. President… [[[shudders]]]

    • AtticusP

      That was a beautifully worded statement, and it’s dignified and worthy of a former US president.

      But let’s not forget that W was probably one of the worst presidents in US history.
      It’s only by comparison to the disaster that is now in office that Bush starts to look pretty good.

      He really wasn’t.

      • bambinoitaliano

        A dumbass who knew his place and listen.

        • AtticusP

          Exactly. I still say Cheney was calling most of the shots.

          W seems harmless enough now–for somebody who led us into an endless, unnecessary war.

        • Stephen Elliot Phillips

          remember when W nominated harriet miers? The senate said, UM NO! today this senate would welcome her to SCOTUS with open arms.

          • AtticusP

            Harriet Miers is probably cabinet caliber by Trump standards.

      • JW Swift

        I just saw this Team Rubicon featured on some TV show recently. Sounds like they do some good stuff–not only helping people in need, but also helping our own veterans who may not be finding a good “niche” for themselves in the private sector. (And the guy in charge of the operation looked downright yummy!)

  • Rocco

    When I think of crime, I think of Drumpf and his crime family, not Mexico.

  • PickyPecker
    • That cardboard pinata should be filled with cockroaches, half-digested KFC, and bile.

      • Lumpy Gaga

        “You’ll eat it and tell me it tastes like candy!”

        • Sarah Huckabee-Sanders later today, “We’ve been assured it’s filled with delicious super-food. Eat it and you will grow to be 12 feet tall. Now, moving on to this fan-letter from a boy named Eggplant.”

          • Lumpy Gaga

            There’s this great film, “Triumph of the Will”.

            You should all watch it.

    • Stephen Elliot Phillips

      a lesbian couple in my building threw a bday party for one of their friends and there was a trump piรฑata that they all got to take a swing at

      • GayOldLady

        Because we Lesbians know how to express our inner most feelings. ๐Ÿ™‚

        • Joe in PA

          And swing a bat. ๐Ÿ™‚ There is a lesbian at my husband’s church…at the last church picnic … I was blown away at her baseball talents. Wow. Way to go stereotype! ๐Ÿ™‚ Teasing!

          • GayOldLady

            LOL!!! Most of the Lesbians I’ve known totally defy the stereotype, but the one’s who don’t are the gals we want swinging at piรฑata Trump. My gal was a superb athlete and still in good shape. I wasn’t to shabby myself once-upon-a-time. Today I couldn’t run across the street without hurting myself, but either one of us would give that pinata hell.

    • GayOldLady

      Give me that Damned Stick!!!!!!!!

    • bambinoitaliano
  • james1200

    Let him try and build the damn wall. He’ll screw it up, like he screws up everything he touches.

    http://i.imgur.com/Cc76VXZ.png

  • Judas Peckerwood

    “reimbursement/otherโ€

    So by “other” can we assume that the US will be stealing more of Mexico through military force?

    • clay

      Trump’s going to raid all the hotels, casinos, and golf courses.

  • Paula

    $12 avocados coming to a supermarket near you!

    • clay

      (Considering what human-caused climate change is doing to the Mediterranean climate zones around the world, you should expect that, and almonds, figs, (good) tomatoes and (good) wine to all go through the roof, as well.)

    • Rex

      And to think, we could have had taco trucks on every corner.

  • MikeBx2
    • Stogiebear

      Vincent Fox for President!

    • dude….you’re getting bitchslapped by yet another of our allies. one which stepped up to help out our flood victims.
      you really are the Number One Putz.

  • AtticusP

    Donald Trump is damaging our reputation so badly that it will take decades to rebuild, if it can be rebuilt at all.

    Every day, I become more and more embarrassed for our country.

    Trump needs to go. As soon as possible.

    • clay

      If we elect a Jewish woman (NOT Ivanka) as president, next, do you think they’ll give her TWO Nobels just in thanks?

    • Stogiebear

      A good and apt comparison would be how long it took Germany to repair its reputation and standing on the world stage.

      • A generation, basically.

        • And I say this as someone who’s over 50. Seems by the 1970s was when the German reputation appeared to be approaching rehabilitated status in a national/cultural sense.

          For example, from 1975 (Fawlty Towers, starring John Cleese):
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfl6Lu3xQW0

          • Tony Anderson

            For clarity if you’re not that familar with FT. Basil has concussion following a head injury which makes him even more delusional than usual. We had a german friend staying with us around ’82-’83 who laughed his socks off at the episode but said you could NEVER show it in Germany. I think they finally did so around 15 years later.
            In the meantime, I empathise with your struggles with your president as the rest of us look on in horror. I imagine it’s similar to how you must have felt during our Thatcher years.

          • AtticusP

            A lot of us were busy reeling from Reagan at the time.

            I had the honor (?) of meeting Baroness Thatcher in Miami in 1993.

            She remains the only high government official that I have ever met whose Madame Tussaud statue looked more lifelike than she did.

          • Tony Anderson

            Apparently she took voice/poise training to appear less shrill and more authoritarian. In fairness she was very, very good at what she did, unfortunately that was to make the UK a far more aggressive and divisive country.

      • AtticusP

        Exactly. And at least Hitler had the decency (?) to kill himself.

        • Karl Dubhe

          Only because Soviet artillery shells were falling on Berlin like rain.

          Had he had any decency he’d have killed himself in 1923.

      • zhera

        Stogiebear, are you in the Harvey disaster area? Hope you’re ok!

        • Joe in PA

          I’m pretty sure he’s up by Dallas.

        • Stogiebear

          No, up in Dallas area — about 240km north of Houston — all OK here. We have had a few brief rain showers today but nothing along the lines of the deluge they are experiencing.

          • zhera

            Glad to know you’re ok!

  • Adam King

    When the Asshole in Chief isn’t being evil and stupid, he occasionally makes do with just plain stupid.

  • Lars Littlefield

    Has no one pointed out to Trump that all available statistics show the USA to have the highest crime rate in North America?

    • The_Wretched

      Facts have little impact on the OrangyMeanace.

    • Tulle Christensen

      Fake Facts. You need to use the alt-facts instead /s

    • Jerry Kott

      He makes the rules up as the game is played. He loves creating chaos

    • clay

      “all available statistics”? That’s certainly not true when you break it down to murder rates (nearly all of the Central America and the Caribbean, except Cuba, are higher). That’s not true for burglary or robbery (except auto theft). It is true for rape and other assaults (but those numbers can differ largely because of differences in rates of reporting).

      • Lars Littlefield

        Well, I do concede that statistics are like your nipples. When twisted just right you can be made to say anything.

  • Rex

    The fact that anyone believed this con from the get-go is amazing. “Who will pay for the wall?” Trump would ask at his rallies, and the crowd would scream “Mexico!” It’s just surreal to me that none of them questioned this proposition. Why would Mexico pay? What plan did Trump have to back up this ludicrous statement? This alone should have made people think that Trump’s an idiot, but no, it got him votes. So, here we are – Trump still claiming Mexico will pay, and still has no plan – other? What the hell does that mean? I’m so close to giving up on our country, how stupid are we? I hope that Mueller and his team can put an end to Trump and this nightmare. But I also realize that things are happening that I would never have dreamed would happen, so I’m really queasy at this point in time.

    • 1. His supporters are mostly morons who’ll believe anything.
      2. The vast majority of them have never traveled outside the US and believe the bullshit about America being the best nation ever in all of history and so perfect its collective shit smells like roses.
      3. For that reason, they also believe that a U.S. President can intimidate another nation into paying extortion just by force of will.

      And nothing will dissuade them from these insane, parochial, ignorant beliefs.

      • Ninja0980

        Yup, and that is something some on the left don’t get, include some on the DNC.
        These folks are all about racism and bigotry and nothing more then that.

      • Rambie

        Problem is, we’ll get more Trumps as long as those 3 points still remain true. Until an effective counter can be formed by us progressives, we’ll just get another Trump (Pence) or worse.

      • CJAS

        He won white college graduates by 4%.

    • Tiger Quinn

      The point was the make other people suffer. That’s all they care about. Libs, ISIS, NEA, NPR, Mexicans, they’re all the same – a world that has more than they do, and they were promised that those people were going to hurt. And that made them HAPPY. So fuck those people, even the ones who are up to their necks in water right now. Elections have consequences, as they like to say.

    • JW Swift

      Trump can thank the Rethuglicans who came before him who’ve been systematically undermining our Public School System for decades.

      • Tor

        Exactly.

    • zhera

      Republicans: Whines about ‘handouts’ to poor people – wants Mexico to pay for a useless wall.

      Yeah. Let’s not expect any logic or common sense from them.

    • Daveed_WOW

      It points to their deep, profound ignorance and evil.

    • Phillip in L.A.

      Currently looking at properties in a certain island nation–u r welcome to come, too, R ex pat! ๐Ÿ™‚

  • Max_1
  • TexasBoy

    Akin to Nero fiddling while Rome burned, Trump is Tweeting while Houston drowns.

  • Ninja0980

    I’m sure the fact so many people use drugs in this country is all Mexico’s fault right?

    • Macbill

      It was the Mexicans that persuaded doctors to prescribe opioids and equivalents like oxycontin to hook folks.

      • Stephen Elliot Phillips

        and heroin doesnt even come from mexico…..
        cocaine and marijuana and extasy but not heroin

      • Tulle Christensen

        I think you are thinking of the Afghans

    • BudClark

      There are so many NEW drug customers in the U.S. BECAUSE of the ascendance of Trump!

  • Ninja0980

    https://twitter.com/hunterschwarz/status/902224885669355520
    But only the left fakes hate crimes etc.

    • Stephen Elliot Phillips

      so is he or isnt he a neo-nazi?

      • Jefe5084

        He’s a Nazi filled with self-loathing. But he loathes all others too.

    • Treant

      I once poked myself with a set of very sharp scissors. These things happen… ๐Ÿ™‚

      • Jefe5084

        I’m not allowed to have sharp scissors.

      • Ninja0980

        Knife here.. still have the scar even though it was 22 years ago.

        • Treant

          I slashed my hand with a knife during the Great Knife Accident of 2003. For this reason, hubby doesn’t allow me to handle sharp objects in the kitchen.

    • Tor

      Nazi haircut? Looks more hipster to me.

  • Nothing he’s doing these days will raise this number either…
    https://twitter.com/JohnJHarwood/status/902215083648004096

    • Stephen Elliot Phillips

      and 5% have escaped the country as refugees

      • Rambie

        I’m jealous of them.

    • Daveed_WOW

      Says a great deal, doesn’t it? A full one third of Americans are Nazis.

  • bambinoitaliano
    • Tulle Christensen

      yay

  • WaPo’s picked up the ball now, too:
    https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/902235211475415041
    So much for Trumpy’s constant bleating of “no business in Russia”.

  • Canadian Observer

    With the exception of murder, U.S. crime rates grossly exceed those of Mexico.

    http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/Mexico/United-States/Crime

  • Daveed_WOW

    I’ve been thinking seriously about moving to Mexico. I like the President much better.

  • Cackalaquiano

    Mexico: “We’ll send resources for your hurricane victims.”
    Trump: “You need to send some pesos for my wall, hombres.”
    America: [collectively shakes heads in utter shame]

  • JWC

    What an asshole

  • bkmn

    Trump is playing a game of dominance that he is not going to win.

  • TexasBoy

    Next up: Trump charges all those rescued in Houston $500,000 each for the cost.

  • ultragreen

    Immigrants in the United States have a LOWER crime rate than native-born citizens. It doesn’t matter what the crime rate is in Mexico โ€“ it’s a much poorer country. Therefore, Trump can’t justify his ‘wall’ on that basis.

  • -M-

    ‘We’re not going to negotiate via social media or the press.’, <– This needs to be everyone's response to Trump.

  • Ken M

    Is there any way we as a nation can thanks Mexico so they KNOW it’s from the American people, and not our president, the ass wipe? I’m still trying to figure out how to word it properly without having to apologize for the loser.

  • Chris Baker

    Mexico should just pass a federal law that makes it against the law for any Mexican money to go to pay for a wall on US territory. I’m sure their federal legislature would pass it by 100%.

    That would be funny.

  • juanjo54

    Here s the announcement by the Mexican version of the State Department replying to Trump’s bull and also offering to provide all assistance it can to help the people impacted by the hurricane.

    https://twitter.com/SRE_mx/status/901900819947110400

  • SFHarry

    Mexico should start asking the US to pay for some of its governmental functions. Maybe extra police services during Spring Break.

  • netxtown

    Mexico: “We’re not gonna pay it. Never did and never and will…”

    • Mike in NC

      “Gonna rape it, gonna break it, let’s forget it better still”. Kudos for the “Tommy” reference.

  • Gianni

    Not only is Mexico not going to pay anything toward building the wall, it wouldn’t surprise me if Mexican construction firms put bids in for the construction and manage to get at least some contracts to help in the building. Would serve Donnie right! ๐Ÿ™‚