SAN FRANCISCO: Feds Greenlight Saturday Hate Rally

The San Francisco Chronicle reports:

The National Park Service said Wednesday that a controversial right-wing rally will be allowed to go forward Saturday at park-managed Crissy Field in San Francisco and advised the public to steer clear.

Golden Gate National Recreation Area Acting General Superintendent Cicely Muldoon said the park service had no choice but to honor the free speech rights of event applicant Patriot Prayer, despite concern from city officials that the afternoon demonstration will draw far-right extremists and counterprotesters and turn violent in similar fashion to an Aug. 12 event in Charlottesville, Va.

The park service, which said it has also approved a handful of permits for counterprotests over the weekend, has been meeting with San Francisco police and park service officials from across the country to try to ensure a robust security plan. Parts of the Presidio will be closed to visitors during the rally, officials said.

San Francisco’s NBC affiliate reports:

At a news conference Wednesday, San Francisco Mayor Ed Lee said, “I remain deeply disappointed and opposed to the issuance of this permit.” Although Crissy Field, being federal land, lies outside the city’s jurisdiction, Lee said, “We are responsible and feel responsible for everyone’s public safety, particularly residents of San Francisco.”

Lee also urged residents and visitors to the San Francisco Bay Area to “not diginify people who are coming in here under the guise of ‘patriot’ and ‘prayer’ words to really preach violence and hatred, and incite violence. Avoid going to Crissy Field and engaging with members of Patriot Prayer because that is precisely what they wish us to do.”

Multiple counter-protests are planned across the city, far from Crissy Field, including an LGBT-centric protest to begin at noon in the Castro’s Harvey Milk Plaza.

There’s also this:

The Jewish Bar Association of San Francisco picked up nearly $112,000 worth of support for its unconventional opposition of a right-wing rally at Crissy Field.

A GoFundMe campaign titled “Adopt-a-Nazi (Not Really)” aims to protest Patriot Prayer’s Freedom Rally San Francisco by raising money for the Southern Poverty Law Center, a nonprofit activist group that tracks civil rights, hate crimes and combats extremist groups.

The idea came from Cody Harris, a boardmember of the JBASF, which, according to a news release represents “500 attorneys and businesspersons of different races, backgrounds, and ethnicities” in the Bay Area.

The San Jose Mercury News reports:

All eyes are now on Patriot Prayer, the Oregon-based right-wing outfit led by founder Joey Gibson. His group in the past has organized other events that have attracted white supremacists and ended up in violent confrontations among demonstrators on both sides.

While organizers with the group have strived to distance themselves from neo-Nazis and other hate groups, Congresswoman Nancy Pelosi doesn’t buy it, denouncing their San Francisco event as a “white supremacist” rally; asked about the federal government’s permit for the group to use Crissy Field, Pelosi said “now they’re going to give it as a venue to Nazis and white nationalists.”

Under the conditions of the rally permit, no guns, ammunition, helmets or backpacks will be allowed on site. On its Facebook page, Patriot Prayer says its group “is about using the power of love and prayer to fight the corruption both in the government and citizen levels that seek to gain power through division and deception.”

  • bkmn

    Not surprised but I really think San Fran should be able to bill the organizers for all the extra police and security time needed.

    • melllt

      This rally is being held on federal land. No doubt there will be sfpd there, and i wouldn’t be surprised if they charged the feds for their overtime.

      • Tomcat

        Charging for theses things, just remember what comes around goes around. We would have to pay dearly also for our rallies.

  • Todd Allis

    I’m attending an anime convention in Santa Clara, but I would love to leave my car at Crissy Field, taking up a valuable parking spot. Hmm…

    • Todd Allis

      Yeah, it’s about 3 hours by transit…

  • Tomcat

    My wish would be for all good people and all the media to stay away.
    It would be like it never happened.

    • JackFknTwist

      I’m afraid that was little comfort in 1920/1930’s Germany.
      And this racist/ unhinged white supremacist fool has nukes.

  • Hanwi

    Just ignore them, they feed off of and crave attention above all else, don’t give it to them.

    • bzrd

      Yes, it’s kind of like the tree falling in the forest and no ones there to hear the crash

      • Tomcat

        And as long as it did not fall on trump,it did not happen.

        • bzrd

          ah, shucks

    • Cuberly

      Antifa and Black Bloc will mobilize, as usual. And, it’s close to a nature preserve and a densely populated neighborhood. I don’t want to attempt reading the tea leaves but the chance for some seriously messed up mayhem is there.

      • pch1013

        Yes, because despite all the warnings and the counter-events happening almost everywhere else, the Black Bloc crowd will indulge in their usual counterproductive shenanigans. They just can’t help themselves.

        The best possible outcome is, no one gets maimed or killed. But it’s 99.999% likely that whatever happens will only strengthen the fascists’ victimization narrative.

        • Cuberly

          It’s what the fascists are looking for, plain and simple.

    • JWC

      Odd they and Donny are similar

      • Hanwi

        It’s hard to ignore potus since he actually has the power to fuck us all over. White supremacists on the other hand are just jilted little boys who can’t get it up or get laid and at some point in their past I can guarantee a woman has laughed at the size of their penis’.

  • Carl

    If you’re going to San Francisco
    Be sure to wear some flowers in your hair
    If you’re going to San Francisco
    You’re gonna meet some gentle people there…

    • dagobarbz, fine Italian shoes

      Yeah, that was before meth gripped the Haight in its bony claw…

    • JerryRich

      One of the songs I play to cheer myself up.

  • boobert

    Maybe they have a friend in the government that helped with approving the permit. Who could it be?

  • Rebecca Gardner

    I’m at home on medical leave and disability. That’s probably a good thing since I’m in SF and would love to go protest these fascist Nazi fucks!

  • BobSF_94117

    Jeez. I wish Democratic pols would stop fueling the fire by claiming that free speech can be stopped.

    • Tomcat

      Seems they keep saying hate speech should be stopped, just saying.

      • dagobarbz, fine Italian shoes

        It’s a slippery slope when they start defining “hate speech” that should be stopped.

        Won’t end well, I’m sure.

        • melllt

          Canada and lots of places in europe have defined and outlawed it.

          • Karl Dubhe

            Experience teaches lessons, harshly. 🙁

          • dagobarbz, fine Italian shoes

            In Murika, there are scores of groups claiming hate speech when there is none, they’re just hearing what they don’t want to here.
            It’s a weird nation in flux at this time. Nothing is certain.

          • Natty Enquirer

            Were we to adopt a typical hate speech law, many people commenting on this blog would be committing a crime by insulting any of the Christians that Joe posts about, for example.

          • JackFknTwist

            exactly; any speech which is an incitement to hatred is a criminal offence in most countries.
            Just try out any Nazi BS in Germany and see what happens.

  • righteous mob

    “fight the corruption both in the government and citizen levels that seek to gain power through division and deception.”
    Hmm. Sounds just like Patriot Prayer.

  • JoeMyGod

    Yesterday the SFPD canceled all days off for Saturday. Every cop must work.

    • Tomcat

      Part of the bankrupting of America. Trump loves it. Putin demands it.

      • boatboy_srq

        Emptying municipal coffers means no money for Those People®, and cities can’t afford to challenge state efforts to codify repression into law. And it’s twice as delicious to them to do this to places like The City.

      • Fred Trammell

        The worst lies are those we tell ourselves. It’s the destabilization efforts of the globalists that are putting the dollar at risk, which is why they fund AntiFa, BLM, and other terrorist organizations. Don’t give into hate. Get the knowledge. What is happening is so much more complex that it can sometimes be overwhelming. But if you care about our country, please try not to swallow what you’ve been spoon fed from the fake news media. Get informed.

    • melllt

      There are protests planned all over the city. From dowtown to the castro to ocean beach and chrissy field.

      • boatboy_srq

        And you can guess which event will call for riot gear.

    • Fred Trammell

      So they can stand down and bend over for Soros.

  • Mark Née Fuzz

    I’m kind of at the point where SF should refuse to provide security to the Nazi a-holes and let the counter protestors, who will likely outnumber them, beat the snot out of them.

    • Karl Dubhe

      They’d enjoy that, far too much.

      Better not to give those particular masochists the pleasure of physical displeasure.

    • sfbob

      I would do absolutely NOTHING that might give those morons an excuse to play the victim card. They’ve inherited provocative behavior (in hopes of being on the receiving end of violence so that they can sue) from Westboro Baptist Church.

  • melllt

    Patriot Prayer applied for a permit for 300. I’d be suprised if 30 showed up and the rest of Chrissy Field was filled with people enjoying a nice view of the Golden Gate Bridge.

    • dagobarbz, fine Italian shoes

      The rest of Crissy Field will be filled with dog poop. Didn’t you get the memo?

      • Refugay

        That’s a gross exaggeration-it won’t just be dog poop.

        • dagobarbz, fine Italian shoes

          LOL…

        • Adam King

          Feed the homeless!

  • boobert

    Will authorities really check for guns etc and lock up the ones with them , or let it slide?

    • sfbob

      SFPD probably will check. Park Service Police, who knows? Technically, open carry is legal on federal property thanks to some stupid, NRA-sponsored law passed in 2010. No weapons is one of the conditions of the event permit but I wouldn’t be surprised if some of the clowns violate the law and then pitch a fit if their “free-dumbs” are violated.

      • stevenj

        Weapons are not allowed for this event. From above via the Mercury News: “Under the conditions of the rally permit, no guns, ammunition, helmets or backpacks will be allowed on site.”

        • sfbob

          Thanks stevenj. I posted the above comment before the issuance of the permit–with the attached conditions–was announced. It seemed improbable to me that the permit would have been denied outright. The “no weapons” conditions was, to be honest, a pleasant surprise.

          Since there will be only a single entry and exit point it will be…interesting…to see what happens when the white supremacists and the counter-demonstrators have to pass through the same security screening at the same time.

  • AtticusP
  • Adam King
  • billbear1961

    NO, DECENT citizens MUST show up, precisely as they did in glorious BOSTON, to oppose the vile hatred of FASCISM in all of its loathsome and profoundly undemocratic forms!!

    You must show the WORLD that the U.S. still stands for genuine democracy in spite of the vicious, thieving, lying, traitorous NAZI that SQUATS in the Oval Office, disgracing it, and the nation, with his filthy EVIL!!

    • Tomcat

      The one in Dallas was the quietest rally. You could hear a gun drop it was so quiet.

      • billbear1961

        Do you have a link, Tom?

        • Tomcat

          Just goggle Dallas hate rally. But it was a sleeper.

          • billbear1961

            okay

          • Tomcat

            Their big one will be next month.

          • Danieruw

            Dallas holds Pride in Sept as well. Will they be at the same time?

          • Tomcat

            As of NOW the white pride rally has been canceled in Sept. Hopefully your PRIDE will be peaceful and safe all weekend.

        • Tomcat

          It was same night as Boston. They have their big one scheduled for late September.

  • Ragnar Lothbrok

    Remember, cameras are your weapon people.

    • billbear1961

      Yes, record EVERYTHING, just as Dump’s support for Nazis is recorded so he can deny NOTHING without hearing what he said played right BACK at him!!

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    • Tomcat

      Yeah cops and feds have made some real nice busts with them.

  • Bluto
    • Tomcat

      They don’t want to be proud Americans anymore. They found a place where they can feel imperial, NAZISM.

      • Fred Trammell

        Nazi stands for National Socialists. That is what the progressives want and just like Hitler disarmed the people, so do the democrats want to do to America with gun control. This is why Trump is not Hitler. He wants legal gun ownership for all citizens including minorities. Lots of black and brown people in the NRA. You need a red pill.

  • JackFknTwist

    For all the big talk, for all the boasting and bluster, for all the bully pose, Trump has the biggest inferiority complex I have come across.

    Mind you, in his case that inferiority complex is fully justified.

  • ByronK

    The fundraiser for SPLC is a great idea!

  • billbear1961
  • MonochromeMouse

    Hopefully the SFPD will be smart enough to stand down and let AntiFa do their job for them.

  • Jay Mills

    Interesting to see how the police behave. The right wing cells are becoming more active in police departments nationwide now and appear to be coordinating their actions with the WH.

  • David Walker

    1. Someone has got to be using Crissy Field as a drag name. If not, why not?
    2. Today’s Keith notices a trend:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpkXTu-fzWg

    • sfbob

      I’m sure I’ve heard it used as a drag name but a Google search turns up nothing.

  • billbear1961
  • juanjo54

    I’m not going anywhere near Crissy Field this weekend.

    • Natty Enquirer

      I’m staying out of SF from Friday through Sunday.

    • stevenj

      Or Berkeley.

  • boatboy_srq

    There’s that “both sides” thing again.

  • Tor

    Fortunately, it’s not really easy to get to Crissy Field. In fact, I’ve never been there in 37 years of living here.

    • Rillion

      I’ve been a couple times. It isn’t difficult to get too. It is really big and I doubt the patriot prayer group will be large enough to fill the space. It will look small and pathetic (like the Boston rally).

  • JCF

    This probably isn’t the National Park Service’s doing. They were just SILENCED from speaking against an (obscene!) NRA-backed bill that would permit hunting bears and wolves IN THEIR DENS.

    No, this is their boss, Int Sec Ryan Zinke (the same one being investigated for blackmailing Lisa Murkowski)…and ultimately, of course, Drumpf.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c4665fa25d57a9cdcb7e83e6f1ddcbef68d7e3d63d20c48dc175150611d4f940.png

  • KP

    Counter protest with hundreds of drag queens in Nazi garb mocking the micro dicked Alt right. If you mock and make fun of them instead of fighting with them you win every time.

  • billbear1961
  • Slippy_World

    Dog Owners To Dump Poop On Crissy Field Ahead Of Rally; Organizer Tells Fox He’s Not A White Supremacist

    My three pups are ready to join the “movement” https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/7aa6b6729c0d09fb6871e212b51d93654d39aa1b47da103d4e01d0311260d8da.jpg

    http://sfist.com/2017/08/18/dog_owners_to_dump_poop_on_crissy_f.php

    • LesbianTippingHabits

      Excellent! I’ll tip to that!

  • Ogre Magi

    The worst thing you can do to people like that when they have a public rally is to ignore them. They feed off confrontation

  • Ogre Magi
  • mizzourah

    All the merchants (restaurants, gyms, retain shops, etc) at the Presidio have to close, costing them big $$$ on a Saturday. The Disney Family Museum – a great museum — must close, too.

    • LesbianTippingHabits

      Unfortunately, this is the price of freedom and constitutional rights.

      • bzrd

        interesting concept, price of freedom, because those who can’t work, lose wages, those business that have to close lose money, those people trying to enjoy a museum can’t and those who want to enjoy fun at the park can’t just so a handful can say a lot of hateful stuff. Put on the scale, more have lost their constitutional rights trying to enjoy that day than those trying to speek at the park

        • Steven H

          “those can’t work, lose wages, those business that have to close lose money, those people trying to enjoy a museum can’t and those who want to enjoy fun at the park can’t”

          “Enjoy[ing] a day” and engaging in commerce, generally speaking, aren’t constitutional rights. Even if they were, I’m not comfortable with the idea of weighing constitutional rights based on the number of people trying to enjoy them.

          • Lumpy Gaga

            I’m not comfortable with the Federal enablers of “Prayer Patriots” telling anyone with a different viewpoint to stay the fuck home.

        • LesbianTippingHabits

          Yes, an interesting explanation of the price of freedom. Thank you.

  • ※ Benny Cemoli ✔Gold Verified

    Avoid going to Crissy Field and engaging with members of Patriot Prayer because that is precisely what they wish us to do.

    Yeah, like we know that the radical antifa isn’t going to show up just to cause trouble.

    • matrem

      Make racists afraid again

      • ※ Benny Cemoli ✔Gold Verified

        Perhaps you should put that on the bottom of a poster.

    • Gigi

      If only those pesky protesters hadn’t bothered Hitler’s Nazis…

      • ※ Benny Cemoli ✔Gold Verified

        If only those pesky protesters and their dog hadn’t bothered Hitler’s Nazis . . .

    • stevenj

      Lately they have favored Berkeley which has a No to Marxism in America protest apparently organized by a transexual white nationalist on Saturday.

      http://www.berkeleyside.com/2017/08/17/officials-residents-brace-conflict-berkeley-aug-27-rally-approaches/

      • ※ Benny Cemoli ✔Gold Verified

        Good for Berkeley. They can have the antifa violence. I don’t really care beyond those innocent people that are going to get hurt by those antifa terrorists for doing nothing more than exercising their free speech rights.

  • LesbianTippingHabits


    Well, I’m very concerned that the surname of the Mayor of San Francisco is the same surname as that of the well-known Confederate General.

    Seriously, folks, the First Amendment is the First Amendment. For both hateful, horrible, people, and righteous counterprotestors. Local authorities have the sworn duty to protect all of them in peaceable assembly and exercise of free speech and other constitutional rights.

    • coram nobis

      Peaceable assembly and so forth, but balanced against, say, the constitutional test for when it becomes impermissible:

      … the principle that the constitutional guarantees of free speech and free press do not permit a State to forbid or proscribe advocacy of the use of force or of law violation except where such advocacy is directed to inciting or producing imminent lawless action and is likely to incite or produce such action.
      — Brandenburg v. Ohio, 395 U.S. 444, 447 (1969)

      There’s also a balance for others’ rights. Heather Heyer, along with the other counter-demonstrators also had a right to free speech, peaceable assembly and, from the local authorities, equal protection under the law.

      • LesbianTippingHabits

        Correct. Counter-demonstrators including Heather Heyer also have rights to peaceably assemble, exercise free speech, etc. In addition to the driver of the vehicle, I note that local authorities failed in their duty to protect everyone exercising constitutional rights in Charlottesville August 12. Thank you.

  • coram nobis

    Incidentally, the local ACLU did not encourage this permit, apparently. This is from the Northern California website:

    Our country’s greatest strengths are the diversity of its people and the principles of equal dignity and inclusion that unite us all. There are troubling events planned in our state in the coming weeks. This is an incredibly painful and difficult time for millions of Californians. For those who are wondering where we stand – the ACLU of California fully supports the freedom of speech and expression, as well as the freedom to peacefully assemble. We review each request for help on a case-by-case basis, but take the clear position that the First Amendment does not protect people who incite or engage in violence. If white supremacists march into our towns armed to the teeth and with the intent to harm people, they are not engaging in activity protected by the United States Constitution. The First Amendment should never be used as a shield or sword to justify violence.

    https://www.aclunc.org/news/aclu-california-statement-white-supremacist-violence-not-free-speech

    Signed by the executive directors of all three California affiliates.

  • Nowhereman

    Oh this will be fun…And why are all these creeps travelling to other states to cause problems? They should hold their temper tantrum in Oregon.

  • KnownDonorDad

    Do what Boston did – set up a wide perimeter isolating the right-wing rally from counter-protestors. I hope the SFPD is up to the task; I don’t see why it shouldn’t be.

    • stevenj

      I think the National Park Police are primarily responsible for Crissy Field but I read a few days ago that the SFPD had cancelled all days off and all hands on deck for Saturday. Their tactical unit is scarily hyper military. Glad the Park Service insisted on no weapons for the “Prayer” gathering.

  • KnownDonorDad

    Remember: keep showing up. The anti-Islamist (probably anti-Muslim in general) group Act for America cancelled its rallies nationwide after Charlottesville and Boston.

    https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2017/08/22/act-america-cancels-67-rallies-after-charlottesville-0

  • witch

    Where is a bear when you need one

  • daddyarch

    Sure wish I were in SF this weekend. Whomever is going, please yell a Fuck You from me.

  • M Jackson

    Please have footage of the nazis facing off against The Sister Of Perpetual Indulgence.

  • stevenj

    There are over a dozen protests/events all over the city Saturday besides Crissy Field. According to this link w/map a huge section of the Presidio and part of the Marina District (including the entire Marina Green) is to be cordoned off – no parking allowed including the Marina Green, entry into the Presidio at one point only at the north of the Marina Green – and by FOOT only. The north side of this Marina District neighborhood from Fort Funston to the Presidio is notorious for the lack of street parking.

    http://sf.funcheap.com/patriot-prayer-freedom-rally-counter-protests-crissy-field/

  • Fred Trammell

    AntiFa are the fascists, and they had no permit to protest in Charlottesville which partly led to the confrontation, while the police were ordered to stand down and mixed the crowd. They didn’t protect the legal protestors, the NeoNazis or AntiFa. That’s why Trump said the blame goes to many sides. There is your recipe for disaster. That is what the people of SF need to tell their law enforcement not to do. While the media is stoking the fires of division over the percieved “first blood” of Heather, Five days before Charlottesville a GOP committeeman was murderd in front of his wife by a radicalized Trump hater in PA, but they won’t tell you that on CNN. You people never look for the real stories, you just let the mainstream media spoon feed their lies right into your narrow little brains because you’re too busy trying to fit in. The event in SF should be peaceful unless there is intervention by the likes of Soros funded groups who may go too far and push their way into corners they shouldn’t go. Violence from the right is questionable, even the guy who organized the event in Charlottesville was an Obama supporter and Occupy Walstreet protester. Trump supporters are no more Nazi racists than all Muslims are terrorists. Nazi stands for National Socialists. Trump supporters are Economic Nationalists. We want minorities to prosper and be independent. Democrats only see them as victims to use as ammunition in an ideological war designed to destabilize this country and you idiots are falling right into their trap. Maxine Waters lives in a four million dollar home outside of her own district, and she speaks for minorities? The Democratic party are the descendents of slave owners, and the KKK was active in the party for decades and many were delegates in the DNC. These are facts that you don’t hear anywhere else but the demonized alternative media, of which you are all happy to ignore. So if you aren’t brain dead yet, and you care about people and the strength of our country ask yourself why Black Lives Matter don’t help communities of color, run food pantries and homeless shelters for people of color? Or offer new opportunites for them other than rioting, destroying property and looting. Ask yourself why people who say they care really only care in front of the cameras. I did. Take a red pill.

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  • MikeinATL

    Maybe they’ll be wearing MAGA hats instead of the tradition white hoods.