SAN FRANCISCO: Activists Plan Counter-Demo As Cops Issue All Hands On Deck Call For Saturday Hate Rally

The SFist reports:

This Friday, city leaders will rally concerned citizens and host an afternoon event on the steps of City Hall to condemn hate and the presumed racist overtones of a planned rally in Crissy Field this Saturday.

The rally, which still needs a final permit from the National Park Service, has been the source of extensive hand-wringing and much bluster on social media in the Bay Area, despite denials from its organizer that it will have any neo-Nazi or white supremacist elements like those who showed up in Charlottesville. The counter-protest and rally will take place at noon on Friday on the steps of City Hall.

Meanwhile on Saturday, multiple other protest and rally events are planned in different parts of the city in order to give protesters outlets to express their anger and displeasure over the Patriot Prayer event and racist rhetoric in general on the alt-right, all without having to confront any attendees directly in Crissy Field — something that may lead to physical altercations.

SF drag queen Juanita More!, along with multiple local organizations, is hosting a Saturday afternoon event in the Castro called “Come Together,” with the tagline “Celebrate love and say no to hate.” Longtime activist Cleve Jones has already given the event his ringing endorsement, and over 1200 people have expressed interest in attending on Facebook.

The Facebook page for the Castro event is here.

More from San Francisco’s CBS affiliate:

San Francisco city leaders are looking to lessons from protests in Boston as they brace for a Patriot Prayer rally on Saturday. Officials are preparing for that rally to happen, whether they like it or not. San Francisco police Sgt. Michael Andraychak said, “Every available officer is expected to be working on Saturday, so no discretionary time off and days off have been canceled.” San Francisco has pretty much given up on the National Park Service denying the Patriot Prayer group a permit, out of fear of violence. Rory Little, a professor at UC Hastings said, “They probably can’t deny it. There is a First Amendment right to assemble and a First Amendment right to speak.”

  • bkmn

    Start by sending the haters a bill for all the police overtime.

  • Lazycrockett
    • Vira

      Time to show Grandma and Grandma Gay how to use an iPad.

      • Gustav2

        HEY! Stop that you young whippersnapper!

        lol

      • another_steve

        I resemble that remark!

        I remember Jill Johnston’s column in the Village Voice. That’s how old I am.

        Rest in peace, Jill Johnston.

      • Ernest Endevor

        You can never understand what the Voice was.

        • sfbob

          It was through the Village Voice that I read about the Stonewall Riots. I had no conscious idea that I was gay at the time (I was a remarkably naive 18-year-old) but the article made me take notice. Ten years later, one of the people in one of the pictures from that article became my roommate.

          • Reality.Bites

            Today you could have stalked and seduced him in less than a day! 😉

          • sfbob

            And I would have too. By the time we became roommates we were already friends (with the occasional benefit). He was stunning, Very sweet too. Also crazy as a bedbug. Roger taught me how to use a camera; he was my very first subject. The pic is from 1977.

            His picture WAS in the Village Voice coverage of Stonewall. I thought he was making it up. He wasn’t.

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a122992c8717682a1e11cd3039fdb97bf963202c0f2a8e69e9f101443a5d8d66.jpg

          • Ernest Endevor

            There you go. And the city felt like a community.

      • bambinoitaliano

        What voodoo magic you young uns trying to pawn off us?

        • another_steve

          So now they sit in their Starbucks and instead of talking to each other read the Village Voice on their electronic tchotchkes.

          Feh on them.

          • bambinoitaliano

            I swear there is always one individual sitting near the window busy with a laptop at any Starbucks. It’s like putting a chalk board menu on the side walk. A form of advertisement.

          • another_steve

            The subliminal advertising message is this:

            “It’s okay… you can come in here, caffeine-up, and not have to talk to another living being. No one will notice. Everyone in here is doing it.”

      • BJORN RAGNVALDR

        Do they come in differnt sizes? I got heavy flow some days….well, I used to….

        • another_steve

          No, dear… it’s not that kind of pad.

          Please stay current, will you.

          • MT YVR

            Well if they tried to use the iPad that way they’d certainly stay current. I’m sure it’d hertz when you do that.

            😛

          • boatboy_srq

            That’s just revolting. Someone should be charged.

          • MT YVR

            Ohm my god … I adore you!

        • 2guysnamedjoe

          No no no. They’re for housebreaking your puppy.

    • ChrisInKansas

      I love my iPad, but I really, really hate seeing print go away.

  • Jonathan Smith
  • Lazycrockett

    From what I read last night all of these “Free Speech” rallies were cancelled.

    • sfbob

      No, that’s a different set of “rallies” (that is, racist hate marches). All put on by a raging anti-Muslim group called ACT for America and all set for September 9th.

      https://gizmodo.com/pro-trump-rallies-in-36-states-canceled-will-be-held-a-1798299229

      May have happened because of this:

      “As of this morning the RSVP list wasn’t looking too promising:

      Baton Rouge, Louisiana – 2 people going

      Boston – 8 people going

      Cape Cod – 8 people going

      Mays Landing, New Jersey – 7 people going

      Sebring, Florida – 2 people going

      Washington, DC – 3 people going

      A rally of fewer than half a dozen people isn’t very intimidating, and
      neo-fascists depend on that dynamic to instill fear. That’s kind of
      their thing.”

  • coram nobis

    Talking about symbols: Crissy Field has the Golden Gate bridge as a backdrop. A Nazi parade there would be an enormous symbolic event.

    Pray for heavy fog that day.

    • bambinoitaliano

      Or The Mist from Stephen King’s novel. That would be a true white genocide if it happens. This people use biggly word like genocide without knowing the meaning of it.

      • Todd Allis

        I firmly support what they refer to as “white genocide.” More genetic variety is a good thing.

      • coram nobis

        High summer in SF usually means heavy fog, often through midafternoon or sometimes straight through, along with an onshore, cold, wet wind, 55-65F. Yesterday, we didn’t see the eclipse because the fog layer persisted all day. Saturday could see much of the bridge obscured.

        Let’s hope the fascisti show up at Crissy Field in polo shirts and shorts.

        • boatboy_srq

          You can always spot the tourists in The City by how they (under)dress.

        • sfbob

          I live in SOMA and I saw the eclipse.

          • coram nobis

            It was socked in over here all day. Terrain may have blocked the fog there.

          • sfbob

            It was nicer in SOMA than it was in the Castro. Kind of surprising.

    • Skokieguy [Larry]
    • Nowhereman

      Nazis running away in tears while being chased by some “diverse” real Americans would make it even MORE symbolic.

      • coram nobis

        Maybe the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence can do an exorcism.

        • Nowhereman

          Made me laugh! I remember that name! What a wonderful idea!

    • sfbob

      It’s already been suggested that the site was chosen for its optics as well as for it being federal land and thus not subject to CA gun laws. It’s sort of obvious really; MANY groups have events at Crissy Field because of the scenery.

  • Michael R

    How should we protest neo-Nazis? Lessons from German history

    ” Violent confrontations with antifascists gave the Nazis a chance to paint themselves as the victims of a pugnacious, lawless left. They seized it. ”

    http://www.rawstory.com/2017/08/how-should-we-protest-neo-nazis-lessons-from-german-history/

    • kaydenpat

      Nazis no longer get the benefit of the doubt though even if Antifa folks can be annoying at times. We already know what Nazis will do if they assume power.

  • PickyPecker

    This is the flavor of shit that goes down at those ‘Patriot Prayer’ rallies. They have nothing to do with patriotism nor prayer/religion..
    This pic is from Portland.
    https://itsgoingdown.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/44g-1.jpg

    • Todd20036

      White genocide. Because having lighter colored skin makes you superior.
      Fucking Nazis.

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    • TheManicMechanic

      LOL @ pint-sized scrawny Jesus there unable to hide behind the sign. Master race, indeed.

    • Ragnar Lothbrok
      • Jonathan Smith

        because they are not Muslim. ’nuff siad

        • Todd20036

          and they’re white.

      • Anastasia Beaverhousen

        Wel, they are just stunningly christian downs children.

      • CottonBlimp

        “I want genocide to protect my children”, she says, while her baby tries to push her hand off its face.

      • edrex

        she just resents people with teeth.

      • RaygunsGoZap

        No teeth.
        A bruise the size of a dinner plate on her inner thigh.
        Likely from injecting there.
        Sitting in the dirt.
        Casually taking about genocide.
        As if she has a lick of sense.
        Noting except CPS removal will affect those children’s outcomes.

      • That_Looks_Delicious

        Actually, one of the main perpetrators of the attacks in Spain last week (the guy who drove the van down the Ramblas running people over) said something almost exactly like that, just substitute “white” for “muslim.”

        There is a certain weird blindness on the left to how fascist much islamist ideology really is. We should be pointing out how very similar the islamists and the white supremacists really are, instead of doing some knee-jerk defense of all things muslim.

    • Skokieguy [Larry]

      And in the good old days of ‘merica, the guy on the left would have been beating senseless by good upstanding white men for being a hippie, pinko, fag.

    • bambinoitaliano

      No you dumb asses! Diversity means you don’t sleep with your sisters or your aunt like they do in Westeros.

    • Nowhereman

      “Patriot Prayer” is code for “We are racist, sexist, anti-LGBT religious bigots and we’d love love love to shove you in an oven.”

      • Todd20036

        Sorry, I prefer to be wok fried in a light soy sauce, with a little honey and garlic, and white mushrooms, and green onions.

        That’s how I want to go

        • boatboy_srq

          That sounds delic- er, um, horrible.

          • Todd20036

            Eat me.

          • boatboy_srq

            Dinner first.

        • Paula

          Volcano jump for me!

          • Snarkaholic

            Swan dive into deep chocolate fountain for me!

    • Dave F.

      Maybe the cause of your failure to reproduce is a result of your racist, white nationalist and or nazi lifestyle. Like that thought ever crossed their minds. Introspection is for wimps.

    • Phil2u

      It may actually have more to do with religion than one would initially realize. What comes from southern and midwestern pulpits is often pure hatred. Think Jerry Falwell, Sr on steroids.

    • bmoore4026

      My, that’s a tiny man

  • another_steve

    It’s all coming to the surface.

    Donald Trump is bringing it to the surface.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMKSwcZNpd8

    • Jean-Marc in Canada

      LOVE I Claudius. Brilliantly written and rather prescient given the current political clime in DC. We must watch it again, soon.

  • TheManicMechanic

    And a 1st Amendment condition that there are consequences to free speech. May there be consequences.

  • Raising_Rlyeh

    Huh, I guess in my move I was completely oblivious that there was a neo-nazi rally happening in the bay area. Counter-demo here I come

  • coram nobis

    The organizers were going to summon the Oath Keepers militia as “security”, which ranks right up there with asking the Hells Angels to police a local rock concert (see, i.e., Altamont incident). While authorities normally can’t restrict a parade or public event based on content (e.g., Skokie), this bit with the Oath Keepers is an open-and-shut for the Brandenburg exception to deny the permit.

    http://www.sfchronicle.com/politics/article/Crissy-Field-rally-group-has-history-of-provoking-11882664.php

    … the principle that the constitutional guarantees of free speech and free press do not permit a State to forbid or proscribe advocacy of the use of force or of law violation except where such advocacy is directed to inciting or producing imminent lawless action and is likely to incite or produce such action.
    — Brandenburg v. Ohio, 395 U.S. 444, 447 (1969)

    • The_Wretched

      My father in law has been trying for years to get me to join Oath Keepers. I’ve responding by not responding for more than a decade.

      • Jonathan Smith

        makes sense to me.

      • William

        Oath Keepers are the biggest bunch of closet cases around.

      • Daveed_WOW

        Have you tried using stronger language? You might not ever have to see him again. (fingers crossed!)

        • The_Wretched

          He’s a lot like the religious-loons we /point and /laugh at here. He’s utterly impenetrable for anything that isn’t said in jesus-speak.

          • Daveed_WOW

            It’s a personal decision, but my life has been better since I excised those people from my life. My only regret is that I tried so hard for so long to be kind and civil to these people. They betrayed me at their first opportunity. Neither party has any regrets.

  • Ragnar Lothbrok
    • another_steve

      Mostly O/T, but who the fuck cares…

      My husband’s third cousin’s husband is Portuguese. (Got that? You’ll be tested on it.) His parents are relatively new immigrants to the U.S. His mother speaks a little English, his father none. Last Christmas, at their home for dinner, the parents were informed by their son, via English-to-Portuguese translation, that I and my man are married.

      Not a blink of the eye on those lovely people’s part. Not a flutter of an eyelash. Only the sweetest of smiles.

      Followed by an urging (via Portuguese-to-English translation) that we try the third wonderful wine that they had set out on the table.

      • That_Looks_Delicious

        The people in Portugal have been almost universally wonderful every time I’ve been there. I say almost because there was one waiter at one cafe where we stopped for lunch that was an insufferable asshole, mostly to me in particular, and I gave him absolutely no reason to act that way. (I waited tables myself in college so I always try to be very understanding of waiters and waitresses). I just chalk it up to he was having a bad day, but it is strange how one bad experience with one person can sometimes make you hedge your opinion of a group of people.

        • another_steve

          It’s human nature to extrapolate from the exception to the whole. We all do it. Most people, everywhere, are kind and compassionate. No matter what country you’re in.

          During this period of terror here in the states, we need to keep reminding ourselves that most Americans are kind and compassionate.

    • kaydenpat

      Perfect.

    • iambu

      Love it!

  • JoeMyGodNYC
    • Gustav2

      Yup, we need to think of these gang gatherings as using violence as a ritual, to join or stay in the gang.

    • Dagoril

      I hope all of them are photographed, and then fired from their loser jobs. Someone started calling outing these Nazis/doxxing them “Tikileaks” 😉

    • Thorn Spike

      He doesn’t look very white.

  • William

    A “Patriot Prayer” rally? The only fight will be who gets to man the glory hole.

  • JWC

    I wish San Francisco well to thwart this campaign of Hate I would offer that, as Bannon is no longer a direct influence in the White House he no longer has to worry about that incumberance. He is free to assit wahtever cause sin whatever way he should choose

    • iambu

      He’s not a direct influence, but since he’s going back to Breitbart, trump will be reading it, and bannon knows trump likes to see his own name, so the witch ain’t fully dead yet…

      • JWC

        with decidely NO proof would it not be weird If the Nazi success of Charlottesville could be traced ro Bannon

        • iambu

          I think only the willfully ignorant would refuse to admit that CVille was bannon’s spawn. Sadly, they are many…

  • JoeMyGodNYC
  • JoeMyGodNYC
    • Rebecca Gardner

      OMG! Wait! What! I am agreeing with Wiener? I may find the strength to go to Harvey Milk Plaza. March? I’m probably not physically able to do the march right now.

      • Dagoril

        I know right? I had to double check the tweet to see if it was from him 😉

      • Bryan

        If you’re able to go, I’ll look for ye! Lean on me.

  • Dagoril

    There are plans by people opposed to Nazis assembling at Crissy Field to fill up the parking lot with their cars, and then leaving. This would make it harder for Nazis to carry their guns around and threaten people with them, at least.

    • Todd Allis

      Brilliant!

      • coram nobis

        And it wouldn’t be hard; the parking is limited. The adjoining St. Francis Yacht Club should plan to restrict their adjoining parking lot, as well.

      • boatboy_srq

        Indeed. Imagine the horror of all those Gut Patriotische Ahmurrrcans having to take that horrible LiebrulSoshulist publick transportation.

    • bzrd

      it’s a crime in California to openly carry in public even an unloaded firearm

      • coram nobis

        Although this is on Federal land, and I wonder if the US Park Police are apt to worry about the California Penal Code.

        • BobSF_94117

          Hmmm. I wonder if they picked federal land on purpose, so they could carry weapons.

          • sfbob

            I’m pretty sure they’ve said as much. Read it somewhere, just can’t find it right now.

          • coram nobis

            And not have to apply to the City and County of SF, who wouldn’t be so pliable.

          • boatboy_srq

            Still leaves the question of crossing city and county jurisdiction to attend, which will be necessary if they drove or flew. Or do they plan to teleport from out of state direct to the site?

          • bzrd

            exactly
            and if all the parking spaces are filled, they have to walk farther

          • Guess?

            Maybe they’ll parachute in from their White Pride Choppers?

        • stevenj

          Part of the National Park Service policy on weapons being allowed in national parks:

          “This includes those persons residing in the State of California that possess a valid State of California carry-concealed weapon permit (also known as a Carry Concealed Weapon (CCW) permit). These permits are typically issued by the county sheriff of the county where the state resident resides.”

      • boatboy_srq

        You don’t expect the out-of-state contingent to know that.

        • bzrd

          hoping for many arrests

    • kaydenpat

      Why are they being allowed to bring weapons? Boston didn’t allow that.

      • Dagoril

        It’s federal land managed by the National Park Service.

        • Ken M

          Isn’t the city the one that ok’s the permit?

          • stevenj

            No, the National Park service will either issue or deny the permit.

  • AtticusP
  • Do Something Nice

    On the eve of the protest and the evening after, I recommend that people stay off the streets at night, or only go in groups.

  • The_Wretched

    Liberty is kissing Justice…or is that PoisonIvy?

    • coram nobis

      It’s sort of Maxfield Parrish.

      • Friday

        I was thinking Mucha.

  • Bluto

    I understand keeping the sides apart for safety & also not creating radical right martyrs. I’m strongly against any violence, but still a part of me wants the nazis driven into the sea. Intolerance should never be tolerated.

  • Jacob

    Sounds like the city is trying to dilute the counter protests to avoid violence. I commend them but, no, these rascists, misogynists and homophobes need to be driectly outnumbered and confronted. The only action Friday should be the plan to fill Crissy Field with dog crap.

  • Nowhereman

    Just the name “Patriot Prayer” tells me all I need to know.

  • worstcultever

    Good non-asshole people, just show up with your bodies, a la Boston. Nothing else is needed.

    • coram nobis

      A naked political rally in SF? How 1969.

      • Todd20036

        Is that legal?

        • sfbob

          SF’s ban on public nudity (any number of people still loathe Scott Weiner for that stupid move–was gonna call it a dick move but the irony was more than I could stand) has exceptions. It doesn’t apply to things like Pride or Folsom or, apparently, other street fairs. I’m sure an application for that exception would be approved.

      • 2guysnamedjoe

        Brrrrrrrrrr!

      • worstcultever

        sure, that’s what I meant.

  • kaydenpat

    Do what Boston did and don’t allow the alt-right to bring weapons to their Nazi rally.

    • stevenj

      Scroll down to Firearms in National Parks. Easier said than done and one of the reasons many are worried about this “prayer” event:

      https://www.nps.gov/goga/learn/management/lawsandpolicies.htm

      Crissy Field is in the Presidio, part of the Golden Gate National Recreational Area. It is federal land, not city or county land as was the case in Boston, unfortunately.

      • sfbob

        And THAT is why the organizers chose Crissy Field as the place for their rally.

  • boobert

    We saw teleprompter chump last night. Tonight we’ll see the response from riot stirring chump. To all those in Phoenix , please be safe and give them hell.

    • Treant

      24 hours of “Presidential Trump” followed by another 8 weeks of “Verbal Diarrhea Trump.”

  • Natty Enquirer

    It will be all kumbaya until the Black Bloc shows up.

    • Cuberly

      Yep.

  • Winston Statehill

    Hey, what’s with the switching Lady Liberty from a symbol of freedom and inclusiveness to a symbol of lesbian love? Please simplify.

    • Reality.Bites

      Liberty AND justice.

      • Natty Enquirer

        And what about Luck? Can she get in on the action?

        • coram nobis

          If she’s being a lady about it.

          • Reality.Bites

            Tonight.

      • Winston Statehill

        But why? They’re not symbols of lesbian tongue action. Why are they sexually objectified? Isn’t sexual objectification one of the things we complain about all the time?

        • Jonathan Smith

          no. not really.

          • Winston Statehill

            Maybe you’re just out of touch with equality activism. Being depicted exclusively as our sexual selves by the religious right for the past 8 decades was pretty brutal and cost us a lot of wins.

          • stevenj

            DOMA, gone. DADT, gone, bans on same sex marriage, gone. Actually more has been done in the name of equality activism in the last 8 years than the last 80 including a very supportive Obama. While we still have work to do in many states so LGBT people do not get fired for being LGBT the public opinion pendulum has swung our way. Even trumps recent ban on transgender soldiers was met with disdain all across the board (except of course for the usual haters). I think most Americans have gotten past the image of LGBT people as just being sexual. Maybe you are reading too much into a graphic most Americans will never see.

          • coram nobis

            No, some RW sites might play this one up. So what: they’re going to read prurience into anything. This picture was a lot more genteel than the kind of displays we see in any SF Pride parade or Folsom Street Fair, but even then, so what? The raunchier displays were, are, a gesture of defiance. Let us not apologize.

        • coram nobis

          Objectified? It’s simply an allegorical representation of two kindred figures, Liberty and Justice, in a rather nice Maxfield Parrish kind of setting. And I fail to see why a (implied) kiss is somehow prurient.

        • Reality.Bites

          We?

          • Winston Statehill

            Well, sure. We. Unless you think gay people all think exactly the same.

  • Ken M

    Visited the FB page. Almost believed, a little, till I saw the speaker list at the end. Kyle Chapman aka the Based Stickman is one of the expected speakers. So glad they make the prominent point that NO EXTREMISTS WILL BE ALLOWED ENTRY. Dumb f*ckers.

    • coram nobis

      I’d be curious if this breaches his bail terms, if he’s at liberty. He’s facing charges from the Berkeley riot that could put him in the California prison system for up to eight years.

      http://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/based-stickman-kyle-chapman-faces-prison-11943171.php

      It also provides more evidence that the US Park Service should deny the permit under the Brandenburg exception.

    • Tor

      Unfortunately, that’s not “extreme” anymore.

  • Lizard

    Um…I may be working off stereotypes here, but I was born in the Bay Area, and…who the fuck is stupid enough to hold one of these rallies in San Fransisco? They have to know there will be hundreds of counter-protestors.

    • MBear

      Perhaps that’s the point. More footage for their propaganda machine

  • Tor

    I wish Harvey Milk Plaza wasn’t a hole in the ground.

    • Tor

      Fortunately, access to Crissy Field is fairly difficult.

  • mizzourah

    Ugh. Just more publicity for skinheads. And no doubt some anarchists will do things that get them all over right wing sites as examples of violent agitators preventing free speech. Crissy Field should only be for recreation (people and their dogs!).

  • caphillprof

    Should we be taking mirrors to these supremacist rallies?

    One need only look at the proponents of white supremacy to know that they themselves are not members of any “master race.”