LIVE VIDEO: Trump Holds Arizona Campaign Rally

The Washington Post reports:

When President Trump finds himself under attack or slipping in popularity, he often holds a rally in a place like this: a diverse blue city that’s home to liberal protesters, but is surrounded by red suburbs and rural towns filled with Trump supporters who will turn out in droves. Unlike rallies in states that are solidly Republican, these events allow Trump to highlight the deep division in the country — and force voters to pick a side.

In Phoenix, campaign organizers expect more than 10,000 supporters to show up to the Phoenix Convention Center Tuesday night and there are numerous counterprotests planned for outside the rally. Local activists say they hope to outnumber the rallygoers, sending a clear message to the president following the Charlottesville rally earlier this month that attracted neo-Nazis and white supremacists.

Reuters reports:

Arizona’s two U.S. senators, who have both clashed with President Donald Trump, a fellow Republican, were expected to skip his campaign rally on Tuesday night in Phoenix, where large protests are planned. In his first such event since causing an uproar last week with remarks about a white nationalist demonstration in Virginia, Trump was expected to make remarks at the rally but not use the event to pardon former Sheriff Joe Arpaio.

Neither John McCain nor Jeff Flake, the state’s senators, was expected to attend, said a source familiar with the Flake campaign and published reports, underscoring Trump’s fractious relationship with some in his own party. Republican Governor Doug Ducey told the Arizona Republic on Monday that he would welcome Trump on the tarmac when he arrived but would not attend the Phoenix rally.

Note that some of the live feeds are from Trump fans.

  • Lazycrockett
    • Dagoril

      Oh look, more white power hand signals.

    • That_Looks_Delicious

      He keeps wistfully remembering that handjob he gave Putin.

  • Ninja0980

    So how long will it be before he goes off the rails?
    I give it a minute at most.

    • bkmn

      It depends on how good the paid ‘supporters’ are in their roles.

  • Proud MOFO Beaner (bkb)

    My fantasy is that he defactes himself in front of thousands of his deplorables. But they’d love it as they love to roll around in the shit.

  • Paula

    How vomitrocious.

  • bkmn

    What will it take for many Trump supporters to see the light that he is a lying sack of shit? My guess is an extended government shutdown where many do not get their Social Security checks.

    • zhera

      They’ll blame the Dems, like always.

      • Ross

        IT’S OBAMA’S FAULT!!!!!!!!

      • MonochromeMouse

        Yup, I still remember working a retail job last time the government shut down and food stamps (where I live it’s called EBT but it’s different in every state) weren’t working and rednecks kept coming in, ignoring the signs we put on every single isle saying we cannot take EBT during the govt shutdown, and trying to make huge (20-30 items) purchases using their EBT card then getting, first mad at us when it was declined, then going on a rant about how Obama is just trying to take their food stamps and give it to black crackheads, despite the fact that it was Ted Cruz who caused the shutdown in the first place by holding up congress until the ACA was gotten rid of completely.

    • Judas Peckerwood

      “What will it take for many Trump supporters to see the light that he is a lying sack of shit?”

      Brain/heart transplants.

    • BJORN RAGNVALDR

      My Brother and I visited M & D For dinner. After dinner I was in kitchen with Mom, Brother in the living room with Dad. It wasn’t long before I heard them taking down civil war monuments, Dad didn’t see why they need to come down, that’s our history. My Brother started to explain (always a failing option) that people didn’t want monuments to slavery when Dad interrupted with ‘Well it’s the white who are slaves now!’, I left.
      He and my Mother are from the county in KY that CNN did a story on ‘The poorest white county in America’ who were all for Trump, believing the whole coal resurrection story.
      These people really do equate equality for others is a slave state for them. My Dad believes that the first thing ‘those’ people are immediately given isvSocial Security and a whole slew of benefits he doesn’t get (he can’t name any) when they get here. Most of his info is from a cadre of elderly curmudgeons spouting all manner of stupidity and ignorance each morning at McDonalds. They are always right and family, we don’t know anything.
      These people believe and will support any amount of disinformation, promises and lies from anyone who is telling it like they want it told.
      They will remain willfully ignorant of any logical, reasonable explanation that counter the message.
      It reminds me of a quote from The Big Book of Alcoholics Anonymous.

      “There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments, and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance—that principle is contempt prior to investigation.”
      Herbert Spencer
      Edit: This quote was referenced in The Big Book, not part of it.

      • Clive Johnson

        Shocking ignorance, but I see this stuff all the time on Breitbart.

  • Lazycrockett

    Today’s news cycle has been full of triggers that could set Drumpf off.

  • JohnJay

    While waiting for the AZ $hitStorm, here’s a new Randy (all good but last few minutes are genius)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=If4eQHYKSu8

    • kelven

      … a rotten orange with thin skin and no taste. A+

  • shellback

    If you support trump, YOU ARE A NAZI!

  • SoCalGal20

    This probably got posted here earliet but CHRISTOPHER STEELE provided FBI with his sources for the dossier!!

    https://twitter.com/kenvogel/status/899996490659241984

    • bkmn

      And the bricks of Trump’s “empire” start to fall

    • denbear00

      That’s what Joe Biden might call a BFD.

  • SoCalGal20
    • safari

      A jackass being a jackass. How Trumpian.

      • Cackalaquiano

        At maximum volume

    • Karl Dubhe

      How nice. Be careful of what you wish for, you may get it.

      In this case, he might drop tonite.

    • FAEN

      But we’re the intolerant ones right?

  • safari

    I heard Ben Carson might be joining tonight’s festivities

  • billbear1961

    RESIGN, you filthy, lying, thieving, traitorous Nazi DISGRACE!

    • Karl Dubhe

      I’ve been trying to get into his twitter account. But he’s not using ‘password’, so I’m not able to tweet his resignation. Sorry.

      • zhera

        Have you tried ‘Ivanka’?

        • Karl Dubhe

          brb

        • WildwoodGuy

          Or maybe “Ivanka12”!

        • Dagoril

          Or add her bra size to the end, it might be that 😉

          • zhera

            Natural or enhanced?

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          • Prost Seattle

            Is 34 Fake a bra size?

        • Todd20036

          Pretty sure Trump has.

        • bzrd

          bestPussy

        • BlindBill

          have you tried “god” – it was one of the most popular passwords back in the 90’s – along with love sex and secret ….or so some movie claimed

          • Ginger Snap

            Just watched Hackers the other day. It’s still one of my favorites.

        • Bad Tom

          12345
          ——-
          All Hail President Skroob!

        • Blake Jordan

          How about daughteridliketof***

      • DreadPikathulhu

        Assuming he can even type, his short fingers are going to limit password choices;
        Nothing with numbers for symbols and the shift button maybe too far of a reach.

      • AtticusP

        Try “COVFEFE” all caps…

        • Curtis Essick

          Try Trump haters are dickheads

      • Nowhereman

        Try “donnie2scoops”.

      • Frostbite

        “bigfakeboobs”

      • goldenshowers

      • DreadPikathulhu

        moregold

      • Adam King

        heilhitler88

      • FAEN

        How about BiglyNazi?

      • kareemachan

        “I heart putin”

      • dagobarbz, fine Italian shoes

        Try ‘guest’ instead.
        Then try 123456.

    • bkmn

      It sounds like McTraitor is pretty fed up with Hair Furor and is rousing the troops to cut him loose. For once I wish him speed in doing something

    • kaydenpat

      That needs to be made into a protest sign.

      • clay

        Thanks! I was thinking about going to the mid-September counter-protest in DC and hadn’t a thing to carry.

    • Ken M

      Any chance of some Wagner? PLEEEASE Seems suitably dark enough an occasion. Thank you Mr.B

    • ultragreen

      Billbear always gets straight to the point. No beating around the bush.

      • FAEN

        I like a decent bush myself.

        • boatboy_srq

          I’ve never met a decent Bush – wait, what?

          • FAEN

            You’ve been hanging around the wrong type of bush 😉.

    • Todd20036

      Yes master…

      Koff, ahem, I mean, um… YEAH Trump, resign…

    • Clive Johnson
      • kcken

        hahahaha…

      • RemusL

        Walk? How about ride a golf cart?

        • MountainBoy

          or an escalator

          • Snarkaholic

            or a hooker?

      • MonochromeMouse

        I would, but my doctor says I don’t have too because of my bone spurs.

    • margaretpoa

      I’m trying to listen to him but all I hear are farting noises,…..

    • (((GC)))
    • Will Parkinson

      Don’t hold back, Bill. How do you really feel? 🙂

    • Daveed_WOW

      Well said. FYI the crowd was thin and many were paid to be there as usual.

  • Mrs. Councillor Nugent

    Titanic Breakfast Menu

    • Reality.Bites

      Waiter, I’ll have a Diet Coke please – no ice.

  • zhera
    • djcoastermark

      Aak, big ass bunny is back. Run, run for your lives.

      • licuado de platano

        I would stay and willingly be cuddled to death.

  • Ray Page

    Phoenix… It’s a dry hate.

    • Karl Dubhe

      Fuck… That’s mean.

      • Lars Littlefield

        Yet, it’s true. So very true.

    • Robincho

      It’s not the hate. It’s the stupidity…

      • JCF

        It’s both.

  • another_steve

    I can’t. I just can’t.

    I have a very low thyroid hormone level. I mean, low. The doctors don’t quite understand why I’m still alive.

    Watching this could kill me.

    • zhera

      Seriously? There are meds for that…

      • another_steve

        Hon, not yet discovered… for my condition. :-/

  • safari

    Well, he’s on the ground.

  • Treant

    I’m skipping this for a medley of the worst horror movies Vimeo has to offer, after which we’re expecting thunderstorms.

    I’ll keep up in the comments.

  • Ninja0980

    O/T but I sometimes talk to younger LGBT youth and same sex couples.
    Some of them are bummed out over a couple of popular youtube same sex couples breaking up but as many of us here know (and I told them), it’s really easy to make yourself seem like the perfect couple online when you aren’t.
    Sad but important learning experience for the younger generations though.

    • Reality.Bites

      Who broke up?

      • Ninja0980

        Vinny and Luke (though that had been obvious for months) and Dan and Brian.
        The latter bugs me more because I’ve already seen biphobia come out of that when it’s pretty clear that had nothing to do with why they broke.
        And while some folks were shocked, I wasn’t.
        The warning signs were there in some of their videos with both of these couples that there were issues they were dealing with that could end up (and did) in a breakup.

        • kcken

          There’s no better way to exacerbate your typical life problems than to publicly air all them just to COLLECT MONEY. Gays INCLUDED.

          THAT should be something you tell the kids.
          Reality TV, YOUTUBE, and social media tend to be mostly bullshit drama geared to garner clicks and money.

          A couple that CARED would have pulled the plug long enough to get their relationship back on track. Or dissolved it out of the spotlight.

          • Ninja0980

            Indeed and if they can’t.. that is a relationship that is doomed.

          • kcken

            Love that you work with the kids. XX

    • MonochromeMouse

      Anything for entertainment is going to be played up like it’s perfect. look at how totally in love couples on reality shows like the bachelor/ette act, and then try and find one who actually got married after the show ended and actually stayed married any significant amount of time.

  • kcken

    The Right News guys is interviewing Trump supporters.
    What do you like about Trump: Everything!

    *gags*

    • Karl Dubhe

      “He’ll pee on me anyday now! You’ll see!!!111”

      /trumpet

    • kcken

      Do you think he’ll pardon Arpaio ?
      No, because I think it will cause a riot?

      *Not because he’s a racist scumbag*

    • edrex

      did you hear that delusional woman on npr saying, “he loves us all so much…”? ugh. luckily i was approaching the house, so i wasn’t a threat to other drivers.

      • clay

        Did anyone tell her “No, he’s never fucking you.”?

  • Ken M

    I know I’m going to get hated for thinking this but, if the horror of Charlottesville hadn’t taken place, would we even being seeing this on the news? His last rally, in DC got almost no coverage. Giving him all this press only empowers his ass. Getting money for his 2020 campaign? And there we all are, giving him all he needs to keep getting it. God forbid anything does happen. We will get blamed and he, and the GOP, will get the pity, and the money.

    • Lazycrockett

      MSNBC has only been checking in on these rallies, not showing the entire thing live, we will see what they do tonight.

      • Ken M

        Probably going to be more on line that on TV. We’ ll see.

      • edrex

        pbs newshour is livestreaming. i’ll either be cooking dinner or dining out, but i won’t be watching that travesty.

    • Halou

      A lot of his re-election 2020 money has gone to hiring lawyers for his son, to shield him from the fallout of TrumpRussia. His supporters fall for it every time.

      • Ken M

        Sorta kinda my point. Thank you. : )

    • kcken

      You mean LEGAL fees for the russian investigation. There is NO fucking way this man is going to be the GOP nominee in 2020. NOT A CHANCE.

      • Ken M

        TY TY TY TY

  • Sam_Handwich

    do we HAVE to???

  • safari

    I kind of wish Barack would start holding rallies just to show Donald up.

    • Treant

      In the same venue a few days later, and then Tweet about the rally size comparisons.

      I’d cross states to see Barack. I wouldn’t cross the street to see Don the Con.

      • kaydenpat

        I’d cross the street to avoid Trump.

        • Lars Littlefield

          I know people who have moved out of the country to avoid Trump.

          • kaydenpat

            I was in Montreal when the horror in Charlottesville happened. Man, was I ever tempted to stay.

          • FAEN

            Dual citizenship is THE accessory these days.

        • FAEN

          But I’d yell “YOURE A FAT FUCKING LOSER” at him.

          • kaydenpat

            Lol!!

    • Ken M

      It was suggested at another article that the Obamas attend the Kennedy Center Honors, since the Trumps wont be attending. What a wonderful idea.

  • Lazycrockett
  • SoCalGal20

    The next AHS centers on a Michigan lesbian who loses it when Trump is elected lol.

    https://twitter.com/autostraddle/status/900079453895892993

    https://twitter.com/dorothysnarker/status/900090309199011840

    • safari

      What about a Michigan gay man?

    • That_Looks_Delicious

      It has been a rough 7 months.

    • Bryan

      Ugh, art imitating life.
      [edit: that trailer was intense…]

  • Ninja0980

    The hubby wants to watch NFL preseason games.
    I almost prefer a Trump rally to that.

    • thatotherjean

      i refuse to watch football before October. If it’s so hot that the stadium has to be air conditioned or people are collapsing from the heat on the sidelines, it’s too hot to play football.

  • Lazycrockett
    • Lazycrockett

      White boy is hot.

      • Ninja0980

        He needs to drop his shorts.

        • Lazycrockett

          Not while Dad and the SS is still there.

      • Ken M

        He got an “Oh shit, was that Obama?” look on his face. : )

        • Todd20036

          Probably the same look I’d have if I were there.

          • Robincho

            I get both hard and damp when you employ the subjunctive correctly. May this situation please continue to obtain…

      • David Walker

        It’s been known to happen.

        • Robincho

          Are hermits still up at this hour? Or crabs, for that matter?…

          • David Walker

            Yes, but now to bed. And maybe a couple of G&S overtures to play me to my rest.

          • Robincho

            We’re sober men & true,
            & attentive to our duty…

    • Treant

      Top photo: Malia watches new Gay Best Friend approach…

      • That_Looks_Delicious

        But is he sassy enough? He doesn’t look very sassy to me.

        • Lazycrockett

          cause that’s straight.

          • clay

            kids these days

          • Anastasia Beaverhousen

            Really? With a Polo bear t-shirt on? Oh yeah, he’s straight.

        • Gerry Fisher

          Leave the cub alone!

      • Robincho

        HER gbf? That’s MY gbf, goddamnit!…

    • Sporkfighter

      I’ll be doing moving my daughter into her dorm this Friday. It is just regular dad shit.

    • Adam King

      She is so look pretty!

      • kareemachan

        And, I swear, like her mother, she’ll just get looking better and better as time goes by. Classy genes.

        • Bad Tom

          Good parents.

    • JCF

      Good to see Mom has taught Malia the family side-eye! 😉

  • That_Looks_Delicious

    He’s in Paradise Valley. Of course.

  • Natty Enquirer

    Again with the Electoral College. How pathetically obsessed.

  • Henry Auvil

    Why is the so-called president, seven months into a failed term, holding a campaign rally? When did this become normal?

    • safari

      When people elected a clinical narcissist reality show conman president.

      • Andymac3

        His followers have such a low attention span, they forget that they already had the election and think it’s still the campaign.

      • JCF

        You mean, “the Electoral College selected” (*at most*).

    • Halou

      “Billionaire” wants other people to give him money.

      • kcken

        Self-Funding Billionaire

        Remember that. He said he was different.

        • thatotherjean

          Indeed he is–just not the ways that he said he was.

          • Bad Tom

            It’s all done with mirrors.

    • kcken

      It’s like boner pills for the flaccid minded…

    • carrot festival

      Bread and circuses.

      • Mark

        I used to love Bread & Circus outside Cambridge!

      • Kevin Perez

        Too much circenses, not enough panem.

    • Ken M

      Ego boost. And to show the GOP that he still has it. If he can keep making the party money, they are more likely to work with him. Suckers!!!

    • Southeast PDXer

      Unlike literally every other president before him, Trump registered for 2020 reelection on January 20th, 2017. This actually allows him to sidestep fundraising issues, etc. Lots to read here: https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/1/29/1626846/-Trump-Filed-For-Reelection-In-2020-On-Jan-20-2017-Why-It-Matters

      • Also keeps nonprofits from criticizing some of his crap.

        • (((GC)))

          Tax-exempt nonprofits have to tread carefully, to not be seen as directly supporting or opposing candidate Trump.

          Not that enforcement of 501(c)3 tax-exempt status is suddenly going to be evenhandedly enforced! Still, it’s more crap the resistance has to deal with.

    • Judas Peckerwood

      “When did this become normal?”

      Early 1930s.

      • AtticusP

        You sure are Reich about that.

        • Robincho

          That was the Third Reich. This is the Turd Reich…

          • Steverino

            And when it falls, we can flush it away.

    • Todd20036

      It’s not really a campaign rally. It’s more like an ego-boost rally.

      He has no wins, his numbers are in the toilet, even the GOP is pulling away from him, even Putin is laughing at him, and the only ones who still like him are Nazis.

      • FAEN

        I have heard that the tax bill IS close to a compromise though.

      • Paul

        …and even some of the Nazis are bored of him.

      • DonnaLee

        10,000 is not a ‘massive’ rally. It’s been advertised for months now, and I’m willing to bet people came from other states.

    • coram nobis

      On Nov. 8, we entered a dimension of time and space outside history, outside sanity. America: a people wandering for the foreseeable — in the Twilight Zone.

      • Robincho

        coram nobis to La Primera Donna degli Stati Uniti:

        CN: Do you like Kipling?
        MT: I don’t think I’ve ever kippled.
        CN: Then do you like Serling?
        MT: I’m pretty sure I’ve never serled either.

        (English responses edited for clarity)…

  • kcken
    • Ken M

      He does look like Race Bannon. Another Bannon…hhmmmmmmm. : )

      • kcken

        lol… Right.

      • e’ville_globeguy

        Thanks for ruining my 50-year crush on the whole Johnny Quest cast!

  • Hue-Man

    O/T Just saw this on PBS Newshour. HA HA HA HA

    The Trump administration has rejected a coal industry push to win a rarely used emergency order protecting coal-fired power plants, a decision contrary to what one coal executive said the president personally promised him.

    https://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/international-business/us-business/trump-rebuffs-industrys-push-for-order-protecting-coal-fired-power-plants/article36053465/
    “What did you get for Christmas? A lump of coal.”

    • Joe in PA

      And they’ll still vote for him. 🙁

    • Dale Snyder

      I wonder what Murray’s fat ass has to say about this….

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aw6RsUhw1Q8

      Please watch this, JMGers. You won’t regret it.

      • northern_neighbour

        I watched with great pleasure, but the very best was right at the end when a giant squirrel walked on and delivered the hilarious punch line. Well done, John Oliver!

  • That_Looks_Delicious

    Jan Brewer is going to be there. Of course.

    • kcken

      ding ding ding… 🙂

  • kcken

    Of course Jan Brewer is going to the Trump rally.

    • carrot festival

      She’s been troweling her face since Saturday. Poor deluded thing thinks she’s still ‘grabbable’.

      • Robincho

        Maybe she’ll wear her “Tuesday-go-to-meetin'” dentures…

  • Dreaming Vertebrate

    Dumpf (surveying crowd at rally): What a wonderful fine bunch of Nazis you all are. Damn, Phoenix is hotter than a thousand tiki torches!

  • SoCalGal20
    • Ken M

      Please tell me it’s 110 degrees and the A/C isn’t working inside.

      • SoCalGal20

        Well it’s like 106 outside. Fingers crossed about the AC is not working lol.

        • Ken M

          I’ll settle and smile for 106. : )

        • Lars Littlefield

          According to the onboard temperature/time/direction display in my truck, it’s 107 F and I’m 3.5 miles from my destination heading into Tempe. Air conditioning is working just fine. The video clip just shows a typical white trash trailer bitch being her sweet self. They are legion down here.

  • Ninja0980

    https://twitter.com/byHeatherLong/status/899737642438459393
    I can attest to the fact that the hubby and I do bonding with our moms watching Murder, She Baked and the Aurora Teagarden mysteries.
    Not Golden Girls since the hubby has no use for them:(

    • Treant

      I love the Aurora Teagarden mysteries!

      I only watched the Peach Cobbler movie of the Murder She Baked, but I did like that as well.

      • Ninja0980

        They are different from the books but I enjoy them nonetheless.
        As for the Murder, She Baked, you should try to catch all of them, since they are all great in their own way.

  • Lars Littlefield

    I’m going to decline watching Trump self-congratulate himself. It’s hot today. I’m thinking maybe an ice cream cone. A double. Mint fudge ripple and peppermint or chocolate mint chip? Then again a double chocolate raisin/kumquat might be good.

    • Dreaming Vertebrate

      My favorite is plain vanilla, followed by butter pecan.

      • Ninja0980

        Vanilla guy here too, especially in shake form.

        • safari

          …I even get vanilla shakes malted.

          • houstonray

            I LOVE a good vanilla malt (or chocolate malt). Just love malt flavoring, hubby is not so enamored of it though, he prefers just a regular vanilla/chocolate shake.

          • Lars Littlefield

            The local place I’m getting a cone makes a coffee ice cream that is just their regular vanilla with the right amount of finely ground espresso bean mixed in. Almost all of their ice cream flavors at 18% butter fat. The coffee flavored version is vanilla with 22% butter fat. So deadly.

          • vorpal 😼

            My hubby loves malt: for some bizarre reason, it makes me lose my voice for about 20-30 minutes after I consume some.

        • Lazycrockett

          Strawberry shakes,
          Vanilla Cone.

          I like Chocolate but it would have to be like a kids size, it just gets to be too much.

          • Ninja0980

            Hubby loves strawberry.. I don’t want it anywhere near me.

      • Treant

        Chocolate, then Vanilla, and there really is no third. Unless chocolate-vanilla swirled counts.

        • Ninja0980

          My friend’s dad makes great vanilla/chocolate ice cream cakes.

          • Treant

            I love those!

            These days, my stomach doesn’t care for the milk, and I’ll pay for it twice, and the gastritis kicks in but… Well, that’s four hours from now, so as long as I’m home by then…

    • safari

      Now I want ice cream.

      • Michael White

        Just been following this thread and now the husband is on an ice cream run . LOL

    • fuzzybits

      We have Graeter’s Ice Cream here,based in Cincinnati. They have a great raspberry chocolate chunk .

  • ByronK

    10 pm EST? Well, I might be drunk enough by then to listen to him…or not.

    • another_steve

      I’m planning my alcohol consumption tonight very carefully – so that at exactly 10 pm EST, I go unconscious.

      • ByronK

        Well done!

  • Ken M

    Some party credit where it’s due though. No McCain, no Flake, even the Gov., who will get him to the door and leave. One step short of infighting.

  • margaretpoa

    Trump is like all Republicans: motivated to a large degree by pissing off liberals. That’s how he and his deplorables get their sick jollies.

    • Ninja0980

      Yup, which is why some folks on the left drive me nuts.
      You aren’t going to reach some of these people, you just aren’t.

      • margaretpoa

        Nope and it’s pointless to try. Many of them would feed paint chips to their own children if Oprah Winfrey or Hillary Clinton got upset with them for doing so.

    • Dreaming Vertebrate

      That’s the key to understanding conservatives and why they do the stupid things they do.
      Let’s trigger the libtards!

  • SoCalGal20

    The Los Angeles NBC station is in Phoenix covering the rally. Got some nice photos of protester’s signs.

    https://twitter.com/mekahlonbcla/status/900135301259055104

  • kcken

    With all the SS is bankrupt talk, I’m surprised that Trump and the GOP haven’t moved to remove the Obama SS protections.

    • Tomcat

      Obama’s S/S protection is not over budget by a long shot.

  • billbear1961
    • another_steve

      Ominous yet triumphant.

      As usual, the perfect selection, billbear.

      • billbear1961

        Good evening, Steve!

        • another_steve

          Good evening, sweet billbear.

    • houstonray

      Wow, I love this! Thank you!!!

      • billbear1961

        It seems like no matter how many times I post a piece, there’s someone who hasn’t heard it before.

        🙂

        • thatotherjean

          For which, since I’m not infrequently one of those people, we are grateful. Thanks, billbear!

  • danolgb

    Totally normal thing to be having continual campaign rallies withing the first 8 months of one’s first term. I wonder why the Secret Service budget is blown.

  • DreadPikathulhu

    What time does this shitshow start? I need to make sure I’m not passed out already.

    • Ken M

      7PM there. I’m not sure if they’re mountain, or pacific.

      • Lars Littlefield

        It’s mountain time, but no daylight savings time. Just regular old-fashioned mountain time. Current time is 4:52pm.

      • SoCalGal20

        It’s Pacific Time. Or at least they’re on the same time as the west coast right now.

        • Lars Littlefield

          What evs. Alls I know is now it’s 5:07 pm. In Utah it is 6:07, mountain time. If you’re in the Pacific time zone it’s 5:07 pm. But Arizona remains on standard time all year round.

        • That_Looks_Delicious

          Yes. Same time as California in the summer, same time as Colorado in the winter.

  • AtticusP
    • Nowhereman

      Reminded me of this. It’s a little painful:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnUGAe0yqz4

      • Robincho

        12 years later, I was one of those kidz in the Peanut Gallery™.

        Buffalo Bob™ was a fuckin’ perv…

        • Nowhereman

          Wow! But not surprising I suppose. They gravitate to positions like that.

        • Snarkaholic

          Dare I ask how he exhibited this?

          • Robincho

            I would tell you, except that there is still living one rather recalcitrant heir to the estate of the late Mayor Phineas T. Bluster. The minute he goes, my story is all yours. Mean-
            while, my attorneys are of the opinion that experiences with Buffalo Bob’s versatile leather cinch are better kept under wraps.

    • Andymac3
  • Not a fucking chance am I watching this.

    • Nowhereman

      Me neither. Well maybe with the sound muted and some hip-hop playing in the background.

      • pj

        id rather stick my hand in a blender

        • Nowhereman

          Made me laugh! And I understand.

      • clay

        I’d like to listen to it with the sound of hip-hop in THEIR background, and watch the audience reaction.

  • Ninja0980

    We’re under a tornado watch until 9:00 p.m here, good thing we have a basement.

  • safari
    • Treant

      I can’t tell if it’s a sign of a breakdown between the branches of government, or fake news to kick McConnell’s approval rating up by disassociating him with Trump.

      • Ninja0980

        Ironic thing is not sucking up to Trump hurts Mitch more, not less.

    • Dreaming Vertebrate

      Ha! Trump is so unhinged!!
      Losing it a little more each and every day.

      • Nowhereman

        He is really really worried about the sanctions and the probe into his financial shenanigans. I just hope they bring the whole busload of them down. I just thought about how he will probably use his “rally” (read ego stroking) tonight to attack all his enemies in the senate. I hope he does.

    • Ninja0980

      If Trump really wanted to tick the turtle off, he’d yank all the remaining judicial nominations that are coming up.
      Then we’d really see an all out war.

    • Nowhereman

      I so hope it was recorded and will be leaked.

    • Adam King

      The more the Nazis fight each other the happier I get.

    • Yep.

      When you completely lose your shit and start screaming obscenities at the guy who can make or break you, you’ve already lost.

      And there are so very many ways Senator McTurtle can fuck up Donald’s entire existence:
      – Block all of Donald’s policy and legislative proposals
      – Slow walk or block nominations
      – Refuse to lift Russian sanctions and pass new, harsher ones
      – Back the Senate Intelligence Committee’s investigation
      – Vow to hire Mueller to continue his investigation if Donald tries to fire him
      – Launch new investigations into Trump’s obvious crimes and corruption

      • One thing I’d love to see Mitch and the Senate GOP do now would be to put Trump’s entire family on a drastically curtailed travel and security budget.

      • Adam King

        – Seduce Melania with your hot, hot sloping chins.

        • Donald and Mitch share that in common these days.

      • kelven

        Ol’ Bitch McConnell will keep letting their Frankenstein monster shamble around as long as it in line with his own grotesque agenda. My biggest wish when this all goes down is that Gorsech has to step down because of all the illegal shenanigans they pulled to get him there, and that Bitch McConnell has to watch all of this from a prison cell.

      • -M-

        Spent his whole life ‘winning’ by intimidating people or throwing fits. Now he’s up against people who don’t have to ‘be reasonable’, when he’s trying to use them.

    • vorpal 😼

      I wish there was a recording. That stream of profanity would be sweet, sweet music to my ears.

  • SoCalGal20
    • Lars Littlefield

      I hope those are actually piñatas full of candy to feed the protesters.

  • another_steve

    I wish upon Donald Trump no bodily harm.

    Well… maybe a small hernia.

    • Adam King

      I’m trying to think of some kind or degree of bodily harm I don’t wish on him, but my imagination seems to be failing me.

    • kcken

      *saved* LOL
      Awesome.

    • JCF

      …but w/ far less STENCH than the real thing.

  • kcken

    The right side news guy has been walking the crowd. I haven’t spotted a non-white guy yet.

    • bambinoitaliano

      I guess no one is taking up the $10/hr job.

      • kcken

        Heard a local group was offering 50$ for blacks to show up?

        • bambinoitaliano

          That’s White Genocide! Why does the blacks get affirmative action pay rate!!! 😛

  • That_Looks_Delicious

    OT – I made rice with chorizo and yellow peppers tonight, and it came out fabulously delicious. I wish you all were here so I could share.

    • Sam_Handwich

      i made chili too spicy the other day, so i’ve re-purposed into a tamale pie and just threw it in the oven.

    • ChrisInKansas

      That sounds great! Better than my boring one pot spaghetti with slightly burnt breadsticks.

      • That_Looks_Delicious

        Every now and then, instead of following a recipe, I just throw things that I have in the fridge together and it works better than I expected. (But sometimes it doesn’t.)

        • bzrd

          I call that refrigerator pot luck

      • clay

        I had a couple handfuls of nuts and a diet Dr. Pepper at the office.

        • Adam King

          I’m having olives in martini sauce, Triscuits and camembert.

        • FAEN

          Wait what that your dinner?

          • clay

            yep. Lunch was a tuna wrap, a salad, and a grapefruit juice. And that’s it. If I’m basically sedentary these days, gotta cut back on intake, too.

          • FAEN

            Oy! If I had a way I’d send you over some Mexican lasagna and salad.

        • Robincho

          The nuts I can understand, The diet Pepper, not so much…

          • clay

            It was late afternoon and I was fading.

    • Adam King

      Mmmmm.

    • Cuberly

      Sounds wonderful.

      We can have that with my leftover green chile shrimp enchiladas.

      • That_Looks_Delicious

        Party at JMG! Who’s bringing the sangria?

        • Cuberly

          Mmmmmmm sangria……

          • Joe in PA

            A friend recently introduced us to white sangria. It was really good, serve very cold or on ice. A summer taste sensation. 🙂

          • Cuberly

            Recipe exchange TIME!

          • Menergy

            Blood orange sangria served here in Santa Fe at la Boca Spanish restaurant is sublime! And 1/2 price at happy hours! a whole large carafe made from 2 bottles of Tempranillo wine, a good portion of frozen blood orange pulp, a can of Italian lemon soda, and iced. Mmmmmmm

          • Joe in PA

            Nice. 🙂

        • Bluto

          I just made tiramisu. I’ll bring that, ice & a bottle of vodka.

          • vorpal 😼

            OMG. I’m not big on sweets, but I have three weaknesses in this order: tiramisu, banoffee pie, and key lime pie.

            And vodka to go along with it?
            Are you looking to adopt a black kitty?

          • Joe in PA

            I had to look up ‘banoffee’ pie: The filling is a delightful medley of cream, chocolate, and bananas.

            I’m in! 🙂

          • Lumpy Gaga

            Who’s got the covfefe pie covered?

          • Snarkaholic

            Miss Minnie.

          • Stubenville

            Three words wee kitty: flourless chocolate cake.

          • vorpal 😼

            LOL I actually used to LOVE flourless chocolate cake.

            Then a friend and I made the mistake of giving into carnal pleasures, each taking a fork, and devouring an entire, substantial one in one evening. My stomach felt injured for hours afterwards.

            Still haven’t recovered, and that was about six years ago.

          • FAEN

            LOL-I just made tiramisu too.

          • Joe in PA

            Really? Regular people make tiramisu? I thought that was only in fancy EYEtalian ristorante’s!

          • FAEN

            Did you just call me special 😉?

          • Joe in PA

            Hey, take those compliments where you can get ’em. 🙂

            (and yes, you are special!)

          • FAEN

            Back atcha babe 😉.

        • samcollins

          I’ve been told I make a pretty decent chipotle margarita. How many should I bring?

          • FAEN

            Plenty!

        • FAEN

          I’ll bring my baked Brie with walnuts, brown sugar and mustard all in flaky pastry.

          • Joe in PA

            Ok, now you’re just showing off. 🙂 Elitist! I hope the mustard was Grey Poupon.

            And you reply: But of course!

          • FAEN

            But of course lol! I grew up on Coleman’s and Grey Poupon.

    • FAEN

      I wish I was there too 😊

  • bambinoitaliano
    • SoCalGal20

      Well! I hope some of that time was with Dems who asked real questions, not just Rs on a Hillary Clinton fishing expedition.

  • TheGrandWazoo2

    Trump is considering hiring Tim Tebow to deal with Kim Jong Un because he has a history of overthrowing pretentious dicks.

  • billbear1961

    O/T:

    Hey, I noticed yesterday my upvotes had climbed well above 124,000.

    Today, they were back down BELOW that number–I lost over a hundred votes! (Right now, it’s just over 124,000 again.) I’ve never seen anything like this before!

    Someone on Political Wire was telling me a few days ago there are bots sent out to downvote posters.

    Has anyone else here noticed a big nosedive in their upvotes?

    • Sam_Handwich

      i thought everything about down-voting was abolished, except for the button

      • bambinoitaliano

        I think it still work but its not visible for those of us who does not have the extension.

        • Lars Littlefield

          yup

        • -M-

          Yeah. It remembers if I’ve downvoted something and some commenters have mentioned browser extensions that let them still see how many downvotes a comment has.

      • billbear1961

        I don’t know, Sam.

        If so, someone at disqus is tampering with my upvotes, OR there’s a malfunction.

        I’ve been posting for 9 years, and I’ve never seen anything like this happen before.

    • TheGrandWazoo2

      About a year ago Disqus decided to purge upvotes of people who canceled their accounts. I lost almost 4000 upvotes on my previous account in a little over three weeks.

      • Ah, makes sense.

      • billbear1961

        I’ve never had anything like this happen before, not on this scale, never any discrepancies of more than a handful of votes.

        • Paula

          It has happened to me several times. I figure around 4500-5000 upvotes were affected.

          • billbear1961

            Man, would that make ME paranoid, Paula!

          • fuzzybits
          • fuzzybits

            I love it when you go to upvote someone and it jumps up the page.

          • bzrd

            how about when you try to up vote and it goes to what I call the white out page, nada, then try getting back to where you were on the thread, not gonna happen

          • clay

            I hate it when I hit the up arrow, and the system reads it as “page up.”

        • BJORN RAGNVALDR

          I blame the Russians or the Drumphs, same thing really.

    • Adam King

      You have infinite upvotes in our hearts, which is what really counts.

      • billbear1961

        🙂

    • That_Looks_Delicious

      I don’t know how to even check that. Is there somewhere they tally all of those?

      • billbear1961

        TLD, when you mouse over your avatar, don’t you see the number of comments you’ve made to the lower left and the number of upvotes you have to the lower right?

        When I mouse over your avatar, I see you’ve made 12,777 comments and received 58,619 upvotes.

        Also, when you access your profile page, you normally see both numbers.

        • Adam King

          Wow, I never noticed that.

          • billbear1961

            :O

        • That_Looks_Delicious

          Okay, I see that on the profile page now. But the mousing over the avatar thing doesn’t work for me. Does it matter that my browser is Chrome?

          • billbear1961

            I use Chrome and see the numbers.

          • That_Looks_Delicious

            Nevermind. I see it now. I was mousing over the avatars in a pop-up comments window and it didn’t work, but when I do it in the main window it works.

    • Paula

      Yes, I noticed the same thing. Approx. 400 upvotes had disappeared.

    • fuzzybits

      It shows 124050 votes to me.

      • billbear1961

        But it was higher.

        I always notice, for a while, when I climb up over another 1,000.

    • Dreaming Vertebrate

      I also noticed I dropped several hundred yesterday!
      I had been posting on MediaITE.
      I was briefly over 70,000 before the haircut.

      • billbear1961

        They are after us, Dino, sweetie!

        • Dreaming Vertebrate

          Ack!

    • houstonray

      I ‘only’ have about 100,000 to go to catch up to you, LOL but yep, mine dropped about 150. Weird.

      • billbear1961

        Yes, I think I lost about that number, too.

    • Canadian Observer

      *sniffs* Is that the smell of competition in the air?

      • billbear1961

        It is the smell of paranoia, my dear owl.

        EDIT: In fact, since it IS happening, and to others, too, it’s not paranoia! Someone or something is targeting us, unless it has something to do with TheGrandWazoo2’s explanation.

        We’re all losing votes because the votes we’ve received from people who’ve cancelled their disqus accounts are suddenly being subtracted?

    • Ginger Snap

      We can track our up votes? Never knew that.

      • billbear1961

        Mouse over your avatar, and you’ll see your numbers, Ginger.

    • Robincho

      Not a big nosedive here, but definitely a temporary downtick. It’s climbing back up again, but still, wtf?…

      • billbear1961

        I’ll just say I’m glad it’s not JUST me!

        🙂

        I’m paranoid enough as it is!

    • Lumpy Gaga

      I have the plugin which shows down-votes, and I never see any on your posts, BillBear. LazyCrockett, OTOH, can rack up as many as a dozen on one post. I imagine he posts somewhere he’s not popular, and gets “followers” as a result.

      Either way, the number of downvotes should not affect your number of upvotes, but if someone who was regularly upvoting you got mad at you for some reason, they could go back and un-“upvote” your posts, one by one. That would decrement your count.

      I can’t imagine that anybody would bother, but these days…

      • bzrd

        how do you un-vote?

        • Lumpy Gaga

          Re-click on a previously placed up-vote.

          Your avatar will disappear from the list of upvoters for that post, and the post’s up-vote count will decrement by 1. It’s like a toggle, really. You can’t run down the number of upvotes cast by others.

          • bzrd

            thanks

  • Sam_Handwich

    what it’s like 108F in Phoenix?

    what could possibly go wrong?

    • Natty Enquirer

      Naw, only 106.

    • fuzzybits

      Hopefully the AC.

  • Lazycrockett

    Chem-trail Kelly Ward lol

    • Bryan

      I have a neighbor that won’t stop talking about chemtrails.

      I work with scientists who roll their eyes at people like her.

  • SoCalGal20

    DAMN MSNBC has hit the jackpot with Rachel and Lawrence.

    https://twitter.com/tvmojoe/status/900031584803237888

    • Sam_Handwich

      a big part of the problem is that WWE is part of the equation

      • Lars Littlefield

        What is WWE?

        • Karl Dubhe

          Wrestling, a la Fox News.

        • Adam King

          Sweaty loudmouth semi-straight men in soap operas.

        • MBear

          testosterone soap opera with inferior scripts

    • ben

      even when I agree with her I don’t much like maddow. Something about the delivery or the amount of time she takes. Prefer just straight reporting…

  • another_steve

    The people shouting “shame!” at the deplorables are witnessing.

    We are all called upon to witness, during our brief and fragile life.

  • kcken

    Wow, just saw armed “white guys” in commando gear walking.

    Jesus.

    • FAEN

      Paranoid people shouldn’t be able to own guns.

  • FAEN

    Something something something nazi’s are good.

    Something something something immigrants are bad.

    Something something something I’m the smartest man ever.

    *Deplorables cheer like loons*

  • Cuberly

    OT: That scream you just heard was Margaret Cho, after seeing this.

    https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/900144042801078272

    • Adam King

      Wow. Somebody’s really, really stupid.

      • Cuberly

        The fact they took the time to photoshop the flag in the background sorta makes it all the more idiotic.

        • Adam King

          They have no real Republican Asian people. None. So they had to fake it. So they chose non-obscure Asian people to fake it with. Because they know absolutely nothing about Asian people and don’t care enough to educate themselves, not even a little.

          • clay

            (Actually, it’s not that difficult to find first generation GOP Koreans and Vietnamese.)

          • Adam King

            First generation? IMMIGRUNTS!! That won’t serve their purposes at all.

          • edrex

            elaine chao.

          • Adam King

            Ew.

          • That_Looks_Delicious

            There are a few. Trump supposedly got something like 18% of the Asian-American vote, which is not as bad as he did with African-Americans but still pretty bad. Vietnamese-Americans trend much more Republican than other Asian-American groups from what I’ve read, similar to how Cuban-Americans are within the larger Latino group.

          • Paul

            Asians used to be a very solid GOP bloc. In 1992, Asians voted 56% Republican, even as all other demographics went for Clinton (yes, even the white vote!).

    • Tulle Christensen

      I am sure they got the copyright holders permission to use the picture, the GOP respects property rights more that anything else, right? /s

      • Cuberly

        Most definitely. heh heh….

      • Natty Enquirer

        It might have been sold/licensed to a stock photo house.

        • Tulle Christensen

          A promo picture for a TV show? I doubt it

          • clay

            particularly since M. Cho is still touring.

    • BlindBill

      when you are kinda sure that there are wholesome families with diverse cultural backgrounds out there, but all the people at your church are white wealthy and well white

    • JCF

      Margaret, don’t get even.

      Get EVERYTHING.

      • Robincho

        How very Zsa Zsa of you… 😉

        • Kruhn

          Actually, that’s Ivanna Trump in The First Wives’ Club

  • Ninja0980

    O/T but was listening to ESPN Syracuse since our local hockey broadcaster is leaving for the big leagues and who do I hear?
    Worthless, ungrateful POS homocon Guy Benson, who was his first sportscasting partner, wishing him good luck.
    Flipped the station ASAP, as I had no desire to listen to him at all.
    Thanks for ruining my last day of hearing him asshole.

  • another_steve

    Go home, deplorables.

    This isn’t reality TV he’s doing.

  • Mikey

    I don’t understand. Aren’t there laws that regulate when you can begin campaigning for an election?

    • Adam King

      Laws? What are those? This is the President of the Republicans.

    • Natty Enquirer

      I think the law regulates campaign fundraising and spending. But not simply holding a rally and saying you will be a candidate and what you stand for. That is First Amendment speech.

    • another_steve

      The issue for me is whether my/our taxpayer dollar is paying for one penny of this thing. This campaigning horror show.

      Are we paying for the jet fuel for his transportation?

      Are we paying for the Secret Service protecting him?

      • fuzzybits

        We seem to be in perpetual rally mode,even more now.

      • Adam King

        We sure as hell are.

      • Yes, every penny of it. Worse, there is no question that Donald is finding some way to direct some of that money into his own fetid pockets.

        • clay

          Not the hall rental.

          • ohbear1957

            but they’re working on that for next time.

          • bkmn

            The hall rental comes from his campaign fund which is very ample. I think his plan is that if he goes down he can funnel campaign funds to his family.

          • BJORN RAGNVALDR

            That’s exactly what I have been thinking about these campaign rallies as well as his registration for candidacy for 2020 on 1-20-17.

          • RoFaWh

            He probably insisted on a hefty kickback from whoever operates that hall.

        • another_steve

          I was in federal government and it was impressed upon me – over and over and over again – that I was not to engage in any activity at taxpayers’ expense that could in any way be construed as “in other than the public interest.”

          Where are our watchdogs tonight?

          Where are the taxpayers’ watchdogs?

          • bkmn

            The FEC and many oversight agencies are now underfunded and toothless, especially under a GOP admin

      • clay

        jet fuel== yes, since he visited the border this afternoon.
        SS protection== yes, he is the sitting president, but, to be fair, any other (/s) major candidate would receive the same.

        • RoFaWh

          I’m waiting for the SS to tell President Liar that he’s not flying down to maralago in the afternoon because all the agents have been stiffed on their pay and all refuse to work until paid; so no security if he were to go.

    • JWC

      doesn’t matter Donny pays no attention to laws and these ralliues are donnies little comfort boosts his little happy places

    • MaryJOGrady

      Not in the US.

      • Mikey

        oh my god, no wonder the American system is so corrupt!

  • SoCalGal20

    Walter Schaub, former head of the Office of Government Ethics (and a great twitter follow) is going to be on Rachel’s show tonight.

  • SoCalGal20
    • This one detail is more evidence of intent to obstruct justice.

  • SoCalGal20
    • Lars Littlefield

      LOL¡

    • MBear

      Cramp them in… makes it look bigger

      • clay

        and makes them less comfortable
        and makes the count more accurate
        and reminds those physically attending that support is softening.

  • MBear

    Fekkin campaign rally…again. not even been at the job a year. What is he running on? Experience? He hasnt done anything!

    • bkmn

      He is running on pure adulation of the screaming morans that got him elected

  • That_Looks_Delicious

    This is interesting, considering the dozen other Trump media circus scandals going on over the past couple weeks. Maybe Trump is more aware of his surroundings than he lets on.

    I can almost hear Dan Rather’s voice saying, “It’s Russia, Russia, Russia!”

    https://twitter.com/jmartNYT/status/900120468706951168

    • ohbear1957

      His total speaking vocabulary is 10 words.

      • Dreaming Vertebrate

        Dumpf: But they are the best ten words! Sad!

        • ohbear1957

          Hi Dreaming Vertebrate, it’s great to see you this evening. I look forward to reading your delightful comments.

      • bkmn

        The best words

    • another_steve

      The challenge for congressional Democrats in the weeks and months ahead is to ensure that they don’t contribute to anything that could/will be construed as an “accomplishment” for the sexual predator, while at the same time not coming across as “obstructionist.”

      A fine needle to thread, that.

      • bkmn

        I have a feeling the GOP will try to stuff any bill that might get through with enough toxic shit that the Dems should not have a hard time not helping them too much.

        • another_steve

          I hope so.

          Congressional Democrats must not assist, in any way, the agenda of this dangerous monster in the White House.

    • Adam King

      It’s Mueller, Mueller, Mueller, and there’s fuck all he can do about it without digging the hole deeper.

  • BlindBill

    why bother protesting – both he and his deplorable are looking forward to “antifa” and “BLM” and “liberals” giving them attention …. let him milk them for donations with no protesters or media paying any attention at all ….. that would get their panties in a bind when they cannot point to an enemy.

    • Adam King

      Anti-fascists, liberals and black-lives movements need donations too.

    • If only one side protests, all the news coverage behaves as if that is the only popular side.

  • Kevin Perez

    If this is how Trump plans to keep Rachel Maddow of the air for the rest of the Russia investigation, he’s gonna be rilly rilly bizzy.

  • Karl Dubhe

    He’s going to be late, isn’t he?

    I’m thinking I might just go to bed and read about his outrages tomorrow.

    • Dreaming Vertebrate

      He starts at 10pm est. 7pm local.
      Take a nap and come back fresh, ready to snark!

      • Joe in PA

        Like I’m going to be awake at 10PM? Ha!

      • Lumpy Gaga

        RTF: “ready to drinkl”

  • Stubenville

    Can’t watch: busy alphabetizing my spice rack. Priorities!

    • clay

      Excuse me, you let your spice rack get out of order?

      • ohbear1957

        What’s a spice rack? A new S&M toy?

        • clay

          And I imagine you don’t color code your M&Ms before consuming them, do you, young man?

          Dogs and cats! Living Together!

          • ohbear1957

            Guilty as charged. Am I sentenced to time on the spice rack?

          • JCF

            Mass hysteria!

        • Lumpy Gaga

          Some people use it to torture, yes.

          • ohbear1957

            I’m one of them. And I always manage to injure myself in the process.

          • Lumpy Gaga

            The important thing is to recognize when you have a problem.

    • Sam_Handwich

      i don’t have thyme enough for that

    • RoFaWh

      I went through my spice rack last year and threw about 2/3 of its contents away.

  • MassageBear
  • Hank

    Everytime Herr Drumpf appears on TV, I either change the station or Mute the TV!!! Will watch something recorded tonight.

  • olandp

    Not for all of the money in the world.

    • another_steve

      We have our standards, don’t we, girl.

      Mine are meager, but existent.

  • Stogiebear

    Holy Shit!

    • houstonray

      What happened? Has it started?

      • Stogiebear

        Pre-game warmup. Sermon guised as a prayer.

        • houstonray

          Oh lord (pun intended, ha). I don’t have it on, but relying on y’all to keep us updated, ha.

        • clay

          I hate when they do that. If they call it a prayer, it should be aimed at God, not the congregation.

  • another_steve

    Heat stroke upon all who attend that rally.

    • another_steve
      • Hank

        A true Kina Hora!!!

        • another_steve

          Hank — I’m a bit concerned for my eternal soul… wishing evil on someone like that.

          :-/

          • Hank

            I will say a “Brucha” for you on Shabbos!!!

          • another_steve

            Thank you, Hank. I’ve brought no naches to whatever power be. Whatever power is in charge.

            When I was age 12, my mother’s rabbi told her I was destined for greatness.

            He might have been mistaken.

  • Ken M

    I can’t do it. I had a late dinner. Later guys.

  • Lazycrockett

    New poll numbers on Rachel.

  • Joe in PA
  • Ninja0980

    Put it bluntly, I’d rather watch some of the hubby’s straight porn or NFL pre games before I’d watch this shit.

    • FAEN

      Straight porn? Wait is he bi?

      • Ninja0980

        He’s bi, so let’s just say his taste varies a bit.
        Let’s put it this way, when we had a subscription to Active Duty, he made sure to download the few bi episodes they had.
        I of course, didn’t even want to look at them and still don’t get why that junk was on the site at all.

    • another_steve

      My husband is into college basketball and I could not care less about that stuff – with the exception of the tall and lean gorgeous boys who engage in that sport.

      So I occasionally watch a game with him – for prurient reasons only.

      • Ninja0980

        Same here.
        But then again, I make the hubby go to baseball games sometimes so I can’t complain.

    • Blake J Butler

      Locker room porn, sports gear, homoerotic positions between men. It would be better for the brain than listening to baby huey and the legion of doom.

  • Sam_Handwich
    • Lumpy Gaga

      Oh, to get in shot behind him, you’ve got to be carefully chosen.

      • houstonray

        Or “of color”. /s

        • Lumpy Gaga

          Volunteers are dispatched with swatches.

    • Hank

      I wonder how many Actors, Herr Drumpf and Company hired for this event???

  • Lars Littlefield

    Whaddaya bet that Trump will be charged with obstruction of justice now that it is out about his threats to McConnell to protect him from the Russia investigations or else?

    • houstonray

      Man Rachel REALLY spelled it all out tonight didn’t she? And the whole Steele Dossier thing is blowing up too. The clock is ticking quicker….

  • TimCA

    O/T: When Trump loses NASCAR sponsors, you know things are getting rocky.

    From Ben Shapiro’s conservative website Daily Wire:
    “BACKFIRE: Major NASCAR Sponsor Tells Trump Supporters To Shop Elsewhere — Racing Legend Vows To Cancel $150,000 Order”

    http://www.dailywire.com/news/20040/major-nascar-sponsor-tells-trump-supporters-shop-joseph-curl

  • Dreaming Vertebrate

    Ben Carson is one of the three speakers, so guess we were all wrong.
    Dumpf is not the least bit racist.

  • Michael R

    We got sick of Trump and went to the river to have some very good times ,
    a dragonfly shows up in this somewhere

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e0f7a521adbd7e97590dfe7ecac4ffdf6883d1efe33e88e3d3b400120903b043.gif

    • billbear1961

      That’s lovely, Michael.

      Yes, I see the magic dragonfly!

    • billbear1961

      It looks like the opening to a film.

      🙂

      • Blake J Butler

        The keys to my heart.

        Also can be titled for a gay love story with passionate sex scenes.

      • RoFaWh

        It would be billed as a heavily romantic movie, one that makes people faint with joy.

    • Dreaming Vertebrate

      I see it! Dragonflies are over 300 million years old.
      During the Paleozoic, high oxygen levels enabled them to grow to monster size.
      Big enough to swoop down on an unsuspecting prey like say Dumpf, and fly off with his bloody head in it’s giant mandibles.

    • FAEN

      SQUEAL! PUPPY DOG ❤️❤️❤️

    • FAEN
      • JCF

        TOTALLY!!!! ;-D

    • Lumpy Gaga

      Jesus Fucking Christ. I got your damn ball! Where are you? Down.. WTF?

  • thom

    Breaking… Interior IG confirms it’s investigating Sec Ryan Zinke’s apparent (failed) effort to pressure Sen Murkowski to vote yes on Obamacare repeal https://t.co/isLnpUyDMX

    • Sam_Handwich

      Good. Can’t say i respect Lisa entirely, but after the party tossed her under the bus in 2010 (and she won a write-in campaign, with a name like Murkowski) she became willing to go rogue, and particularly with women’s reproductive issues

  • jimbo65

    Watching Rachel. Really pisses me off how 45 and his cronies are getting rich off of these public servant jobs

    • Hank

      Classic Oligarch in Action!!!

    • houstonray

      Amen! That’s why I worry that even with Trump out, those rich asshole grifters he placed in every seat of power will just continue raping the country even with President Pence.

    • Lazycrockett

      Banana Republic.

      • jimbo65

        Indeed. And the Gop are complicit. And the band played on…

  • Stogiebear

    The rear voo window.

  • Lazycrockett
    • TimCA

      Greater metro Phoenix area has what 3, 4, 5 million people? This isn’t deep blue country. Where are Donnie’s adoring masses?

    • ByronK

      … Is that all there is, is that all there is
      If that’s all there is my friends, then let’s keep dancing
      Let’s break out the booze and have a ball
      If that’s all there is…

      • Joe in PA

        Peggy, is that you?

      • MaryJOGrady

        I don’t know about you, but I had to break out the vodka for this.

        • ByronK

          Yup.

        • RoFaWh

          If it weren’t illegal and wouldn’t endanger you, I’d mail you a gram of one of the more skookum strains.

  • houstonray

    Rachel is making me insane over this clusterfuck, lying, cheating, stealing administration….at what point do we just get to start over from scratch. Sigh.

    • jimbo65

      As long as the damn GOP are in office, it’ll go on. They’ve got their hands in the cookie jar too, and they’re milking it for all its worth.

  • Stogiebear

    It’s Velveeta King. Delivering a prayer. How many more fucking prayers at this civic event? It’s a goddamn tent revival.

    • Hank

      Let me know, when Joel Osteen shows up. I like watching him on Mute!!!

      • Stogiebear

        Just have your eclipse glasses handy for his teeth.

        • jimbo65

          Ha!

    • ByronK

      Does that woman have a question or does she have to go to the bathroom?

    • MaryJOGrady

      That’s Fake Doctor Velveeta King. (Some horrible hateful Jeebusite pseudo-university gave her an honorary doctorate, and she’s been calling herself “Doctor” ever since.)

  • Stogiebear

    Franklin Graham. He’s going to pray like his momma taught him. Maybe he’ll take up an offering like his daddy taught him.

    • Hank

      Sigh, Frankie is just another Grifter!!!

  • Ninja0980

    What ticks me off about all of this crap is Trump and the GOP are appointing judges to the bench who will gladly overlook all of this corruption if it helps the GOP stay in power.
    Trust me when I say the GOP will do their best to ensure there are no more Posners or Souters getting through on their watch.

  • thom

    Something new I haven’t before Arizona…
    “Anti-Racist” – “Pro-Worker” groups armed to the teeth https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c8a849bd9b5c611064224a47e20dcee3da5e76726ce49452af94b9543e89fbfd.jpg

    • Joe in PA

      Jeez, for a sec I thought that was Jared. Ugh.

      • Dreaming Vertebrate

        It’s the flak jacket.

        • houstonray

          “KUSH”!

    • Ninja0980

      Expect to see tough new gun laws get passed in record time in AZ.
      Can’t have those type of people getting guns now can we?

      • Dreaming Vertebrate

        I’m really surprised they let them anywhere near Trump with guns.

  • ByronK

    This Christian shit just makes me crazy.

    • NZArtist

      Oddly, it makes Christians crazy as well.

      • ByronK

        But not in a good way.

  • Stogiebear

    Mike Pence. Maybe he’ll lead the audience in a rosary.

    • MaryJOGrady

      He no longer considers himself Catholic, I understand.

      • another_steve

        The evangelicals consider Catholics to be Satan.

        • MaryJOGrady

          There is that. The mutual hatred of LGBTQ people and reproductive rights has enabled some toxic cooperation, though.

        • ohbear1957

          My Bible-thumpin’ sister refers to my Catholic sister as “The Papist!”

          • another_steve

            I’m married to a devout Catholic man (heaven help me) and know from this first hand.

            He’s active in Catholic LGBT circles and gets hate mail from non-Catholic Christians.

          • BobSF_94117

            This country was a safer place when Catholics, Mormons, and Baptists all hated each other.

          • another_steve

            Lol. I get that.

            Instead of preaching against, for instance, queers, they preached against each other.

          • RoFaWh

            Has Catholic sister done the obvious yet and simply slapped the living daylights out of bible thumping sister?

    • Hank

      Mike Pence: A ‘born-again, evangelical Catholic’…. He actually converted from Catholic to Evangelical Protestant

  • ohbear1957
    • Lazycrockett

      Almost make this agnostic wish there was a lil piece of heaven for this dear man.

  • Lazycrockett
  • ByronK

    When in doubt, wheel out the Christian mannequin.

    • Dreaming Vertebrate

      Will there be a fake crucifixion?

      • Stogiebear

        Crucifiction.

        • Dreaming Vertebrate

          Ha!

        • ByronK

          I saw what you did!

      • ByronK

        Barbie’s Malibu Dream Crucifix.

        • Sam_Handwich

          i’ll make daiquiris

  • Stogiebear

    But HIllary was a warmonger…

    • TimCA

      and crooked!!

      • Rambie

        With emails

    • jimbo65

      And in the pocket of Wall Street. Why she would have hired all of her buddies from wall street! /s

  • pj

    president pence. god help us.

    • Lazycrockett

      Pence would never win re election. If Drumpf resigns or is impeached the rest of the four years will be do nothing just get through it.

      • another_steve

        I dunno about that. Pence is much much smarter – politically – than Trump.

        Pence might get things through the Republican-controlled Congress.

        • Lazycrockett

          Pence is hated in Indiana. There is plenty of dirty on him while he was Gov. The only reason he took the vp job was cause his political career was over.

          • another_steve

            When Trump resigns or is impeached and removed from office, congressional Republicans will rejoice. Pence is their man. Pence is a true blue dyed-in-the-wool theofascist.

            They like Pence.

            They’ll work with Pence.

      • jimbo65

        And if Pence gets in, we’ll have to resist him as well.

        • edrex

          and resist we will!

    • halfwaythere

      I know, I DETEST every single thing be stands for – but I’m not afraid he’ll *accidentally* tweet us into a nuclear war.

    • matrem

      Agnew went first.

  • Lazycrockett

    So Lawrence is only going to break to Drumpf speech if the conversation turns to Afghanistan or pardoning that racist sheriff.

  • another_steve

    Has it begun?

    Will someone please provide me with simultaneous faggot interpretation?

    • BobSF_94117

      I would consider watching if they dubbed it over in Polari.

      • another_steve

        What a fascinating thing Polari is/was. There are YouTube videos with examples of it. Linguistics scholars have written books on it.

        I think I was first made familiar with it here on JMG. It’s a facet of gay life – back in the day – that many gay people today are unfamiliar with.

  • ByronK

    God given rights in the Constitution drafted by atheists.

  • Stogiebear

    “Tonight you’ll hear … Trump speak….” And even Velveeta King could string words together better than Trump.

  • Lazycrockett

    Fat shit has taken the stage.

    • ByronK

      Nice audio salad.

      • MaryJOGrady

        I’m watching the local Fox affiliate. Their sound engineer is incompetent.

  • ByronK

    Non-Christians, please pick up the nearest courtesy phone for instructions on how to get the fuck out.

    • Hank

      I’m holding the exit door open for you as I walked out, already! /s

  • MaryJOGrady

    Here it comes.
    I hope he shoots his damfool mouth off and embarrasses the hell out of all his loathsome warmup acts.

    • RoFaWh

      Anyone who is a warm-up act for President Liar is incapable of embarrassment.

  • SoCalGal20
  • worstcultever

    Some commenter on another board said that the coverage of this rally should consist of a tiny box in the corner of the screen, with the main screen showing Hillary enjoying a bottle of wine and catching up on “Veep.”

  • Sam_Handwich

    i’m gonna trust Lawrence to switch over if something interesting happens

  • ByronK

    Where are all the hired brown people?

    • Sam_Handwich

      making shoes in the parking lot

    • MaryJOGrady

      I saw one behind the dais, wearing a t-shirt saying that Trump and Republicans are not racist.

      • Hank

        It is a PAID gig…. he really is an actor

        • ohbear1957

          You can always spot the actors in a tRump crowd because they still have all of their teeth.

        • MaryJOGrady

          I know. The Craigslist ad offered $10/hr.

      • Ken M

        God2.com aka Blacks for Trump Their website is quite amusing/scary. http://www.honestfact.com/

    • Hank

      Being stopped by Arpaio”s confederates!!!

  • ByronK

    Seriously Jimbo, stop fucking Tiffany on the soundboard!

  • houstonray

    If the crowd starting chanting “Pardon Joe! Pardon Joe!” you KNOW he would say “so what do you think, should I pardon him? Yeah, I should? OK, I am announcing now, I will pardon Sheriff Joe!” And the crowd would go crazy.

  • Stogiebear

    The immortal opening words of the Phoenix Address:

    “Wow. What a crowd. What a crowd.”

  • fuzzybits

    Turned it over to see what was going on and saw Alveda King and Franklin Graham. No thanks!

  • Anastasia Beaverhousen

    No protesters? Really?

  • Sam_Handwich

    so apparently there are more people protesting outside

  • Sam_Handwich

    Rev Grame

  • Anastasia Beaverhousen

    We will never forget either Arizona…

  • ByronK

    He has one of his blacks in the crowd behind him.

    • RoFaWh

      He buys them cheap on ebay.

  • Robert Adams

    A one-man cult of personality.

  • halfwaythere

    I am very grateful that MSNBC is not automatically covering him.

    • halfwaythere

      But I also find that I’m addicted, I want to hear just what crap he is saying.

  • Sam_Handwich

    so show the crowd

    • MaryJOGrady

      The local Fox affiliate had to admit the place is far from full.

      • RoFaWh

        Won’t matter. President Liar will claim it was a standing room only crowd.

        Edit: After a longish spell of referring to “him” as “the orange asshole”, then a shorter spell of “the crazy old fascist”, I’ve switched to “President Liar”. But you know what? Even if one of “his” handlers showed him every comment I use such terms in, he simply wouldn’t care.

        He doesn’t care that he lies incessantly, and he doesn’t care that everyone knows it. All that matters to him is the success of his mental masturbation session during which he squirts self-praise all over his own ego.

        What a disgusting mental picture that language evokes!

  • ByronK

    Ok, not sure I’m drunk enough…

    • Hank

      Have a hit from my doobie, it will help… or you will just stop caring!

      • ByronK

        Powering up the vape. 🙂

  • Stogiebear

    Is it just me or is he slurring his words?

  • Michael R

    Shiny Happy People
    ( I just learned how to make movies and post them tonight ,
    we were at the river 7 til sunset )

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/40aaded3af04dc018669fd3de79424718657b948b5bd44defca1754f8fd82145.gif

  • halfwaythere

    Oh fuck you fuck you!

  • ByronK

    “Our people”. Holy fuck. This is so completely twisted and dangerous.

  • houstonray

    The black guy with the white t-shirt is C-R-A-Z-Y. And he’s back? Here is an article from BEFORE the election about him.

    http://www.salon.com/2016/10/27/that-blacks-for-trump-guy-at-donald-trumps-rallies-is-even-weirder-than-you-think/

    • ByronK

      They might call in security if he doesn’t stop touching the white woman in front of him.

    • Ken M

      Visit the web site on his shirt is want to see CRAZY

  • Ninja0980

    O/T but in Kansas, Sam Brownback’s equally vile son in law Eric Teetsel has taken over the Focus On the Family state hate group for Kansas, the Family Policy Alliance of Kansas.
    My relatives there are so sick of Brownback and his family just hearing their names makes them want to puke.

  • boobert

    I just don’t have the stomach to listen , but it is fun to read the comments here. Let me know when the riots start .

    • TimCA

      I’m currently listening to Lawrence O’Donnell.

      • another_steve

        So I put him on, here on the East Coast, and they’re showing the sexual predator speak.

        Disappointing.

    • edrex

      i’m sitting this one out with you.

  • Lazycrockett
  • Stogiebear

    Once again, Shitgibbon expresses his hatred for the 1st Article of the Constitution.

  • Bluto

    just got here. did I miss much of the nazi rally?

    • Hank

      Ten minutes of prayers, etc. and Herr Drumpf is talking @ 10 minutes

    • jimbo65

      On lawrence they’re going back and forth on the coverage. 45 is whining and lying about his “forceful ” condemnations of the Nazis.

      • billbear1961

        “So many fine and upstanding people march with Nazis!”

    • Sam_Handwich

      swimsuit competition is next, followed by the goose-stepping parade

  • Hank

    When Lawrence switches to Herr Drumpf, I hit the MUTE button and take a leak!

  • MaryJOGrady

    Extended attack on the press from #45. Some more bad craziness to come, for sure.

  • Lazycrockett

    FYI
    It’s Dorothy Parker’s B Day.

    https://twitter.com/JMN/status/900001484896600065

    • MaryJOGrady

      She left her estate to the Rev. Martin Luther King, jr.

      • worstcultever

        Had forgotten that. So fucking cool.

    • JCF

      “As I grow older and older, And totter toward the tomb, I find that I care less and less, Who goes to bed with whom.” 😉

  • halfwaythere

    He.Is.Such.A.Fuck.

  • argeejay

    “MASSIVE,” it was “MASSIVE,” I tell ya……

    • Hank

      Neither his hands nor his dcik

    • Dreaming Vertebrate

      Melania: Now that’s an exaggeration, believe me! Sad!!

  • ByronK

    Seriously, get him the fuck out of office. He is not right in the head and he is dangerous.

    • jimbo65

      Never thought I’d live to see the day that someone would come along and shit all over the presidency.

      • Stubenville

        But her emails!

      • ByronK

        It’s very distressing…

  • jimbo65

    Oh I see they have a token black guy behind 45. See he’s not racist!

    • ByronK

      That’s his Black.

    • Lazycrockett

      He’s a stand in, been around for ages.

    • Hank

      Are you sure it is not Ben Carson??

      • jimbo65

        Nah. He’s more animated.

      • edrex

        no. ben carson is definitely racist.

  • Lazycrockett

    One of the twins looks ghastly.

  • billbear1961
  • blackstar
    • blackstar

      I ordered my two tickets. Watching my empty seats now

  • Ken M

    He would be so much more enjoyable to watch with his hands tied behind his back. I’d put up with speech to see that.

    • Hank

      I would put a ball gag into his mouth, then!

    • MaryJOGrady

      If a firing squad were involved, #45 with his hands tied behind his back would be ever so good to hear.

  • Bluto

    this a nazi pity party

  • Stogiebear

    Everything the man says is a lie.

  • Sam_Handwich

    i think he’s yelling at his kids

  • ByronK

    Wow, Lawrence is on fire. “The President is misquoting himself. He is lying.”

    • MaryJOGrady

      Indeed he is.

  • Lazycrockett

    Lawrence if fact checking him as he speaks. “He is lying to this audience.”

    • billbear1961

      Surprise!

  • TimCA

    Lawrence O’Donnell’s accompanying narrative pointing out each of Trump’s lies and half-truths.

    • houstonray

      Love it!

  • Lazycrockett

    You say anything bout sexy George an Ill cut you bitch.

  • halfwaythere

    I hate his smarmy smile so much.

    • Hank

      Reminds me of Ted Cruz, every time!

      • boobert

        kellyscam taught them both

    • ohbear1957

      Backpfeifengesicht!

  • ByronK

    Why is he, as they say, relitigating this bullshit?

    • Stogiebear

      Because he hasn’t done anything useful.

  • another_steve

    Embarrassed to be an American, at the moment.

    • MaryJOGrady

      Me, too.

      • ohbear1957

        It started last November.

        • MaryJOGrady

          One of the worst nights ever, that Nov. 8.
          It’s only gotten worse since then.

          • ohbear1957

            I’ve been running a low-grade depression on and off.

          • halfwaythere

            I know. I’m drinking a LOT (and I’m a drinker) and aren’t interested in much at all. I’m concerned. It’s scary. And it’s definitely externally based.

          • houstonray

            We’re eating. Probably gained 25/30 lbs since November.

          • ohbear1957

            Same lack of enthusiasm here. Anxiety too.

          • another_steve

            I’m anxious too.

            Our anxiety differentiates us from our enemy.

          • ohbear1957

            The laughter I find here at JMG always helps.

          • another_steve

            Yes.

            Helps me too.

          • another_steve

            Stay here with us, halfwaythere. You’re not alone.

            There’s a large community of people here who feel as you do.

          • halfwaythere

            I know, and I’m so thankful.

          • halfwaythere

            Not that you feel that way!

          • another_steve

            Oh I’m scared. Read my comments, I’m plenty scared. It’s okay to be scared.

            Not okay to give up hope, though.

          • RoFaWh

            Lay off that stuff and switch to you-know-what.

            It has side effects, unquestionably, esp. if you are a heavy and frequent user, but the only withdrawal symptom I’m aware of is possible vertigo. But it won’t destroy your liver.

          • another_steve

            The morning of November 9th.

            The worst morning of my life.

          • houstonray

            Nov 9th I had taken off to celebrate (in advance) but spent the day in a daze…sigh.

    • ByronK

      I’m embarrassed for you, and I mean that in the most compassionate way.

  • Ginger Snap

    I’d love to stick around but someone has to get up and work so he can pay the bills. Goodnight all.

    • MaryJOGrady

      Rest well.
      I am rapt in the usual horrified fascination.

      • another_steve

        I keep pinching myself.

        Let me wake up. PLEEZE let me wake up.

    • another_steve

      We love our working grunts.

      Nighty night.

    • jimbo65

      Sweet dreams.

  • Lazycrockett

    No matter what the fuck you say, youre still a fucking racist.

  • safari

    I’d turn the volume on, but I can’t bring myself to. what’s he up to?

    • Bluto

      praising nazis & condemning antifa

    • ByronK

      You mean what he’s down to.

    • jimbo65

      If you’re watching Lawrence they’re on split screen. They’ve muted 45 now.

  • Sam_Handwich
    • jimbo65

      Needs more lightening bolts. ;P

      • RoFaWh

        I think the doctored version of that sequence is trying to portray corona discharge, as in St. Elmo’s Fire.

  • Stogiebear

    So he loves all people. Except the members of the press, anarchists, antifa, Democratic “enemies”.

    • TimCA

      And the night is still young.

    • SoCalGal20

      Trans soldiers.

    • MaryJOGrady

      And Mexican-Americans, especially if they are judges.

    • -M-

      …Republican enemies…

  • fuzzybits
    • ByronK

      LOL

  • boobert

    Has he realized the place is half empty yet?

    • Dreaming Vertebrate

      Dumpf: It is completely full and packed to the rafters! Fake news!!

    • clay

      They keep the lights in his eyes.

  • Bluto

    he sounds like someone talking to their pet when he’s quoting himself. “who’s a good nazi?!”

  • Ninja0980

    Jefferey Lord!

    • Dreaming Vertebrate

      He of “Sieg heil!” fame?
      Good lord, Dumpf is so tone deaf!!

  • SoCalGal20

    Go Lawrence go!!!!

  • Hank

    Lawrence keeps calling out all his lies tonight!!!

    BRAVO!!!

    • ByronK

      It’s awesome.

  • Stogiebear

    Now he’s called the killer a murderer twice in a nationally broadcast event.

    • MaryJOGrady

      Urinating in the jury pool. Swell.

  • Lazycrockett
  • MaryJOGrady

    “The driver of the car is a murderer…” #45 claims he said. First, he never said that. Second, Nixon saying that about Charles Manson almost caused a mistrial. There’s this little thing about presumption of innocence prior to trial.

  • Bluto

    “race relations are much better now than with that darkie president!”

  • Hank

    Mute = DRINK!!!

  • halfwaythere

    Lawrence: “clearly there’s nothing he’s saying worth listening to. ” Ha!

  • ByronK

    He’s just fucking insane. No ifs, ands, or buts. Just. Fucking. Insane.

    • halfwaythere

      Well, and evil.

  • MaryJOGrady

    Oh, boy. History and heritage.

    • Dreaming Vertebrate

      Dumpf: … , and lebensraum!

  • Bluto

    “they’re trying to take away our history & heritage.”

    • Hank

      Let me know if he breaks into singing Dixie!

      • MaryJOGrady

        That’s amazing; the same possible outrage occurred to me too.

        • RoFaWh

          Not amazing when you deal with someone as predictable as President Liar.

    • Oscarlating Wildely

      The South was a bunch of traitors and losers. They lost. Big time. They’re just crap soldiers. The South screwed the pooch. Dixieland shit the bed. Splat! There went the South and the Confederacy bit the bag big time. Losers. Total losers.

      If you can just put up a monument to acknowledge that fact, we’ll chat. Oh, and you can’t have enough statues of Sherman. Should be one at every corner.

    • Lumpy Gaga

      Someone closing down his mother’s old brothel?

  • Stogiebear

    I”m really enjoying hearing about his plans for defeating ISIS.

  • Lazycrockett

    My how Presidential.

  • fuzzybits

    I remember reading and seeing video awhile back about professional cuddler’s. I wonder if their business has picked up since last Nov.?

    • halfwaythere

      I’ve used one a few times (been single a loooo-oooong time) but actually not since November I think. It’s lovely.

  • Stogiebear

    Lugenpresse! TRINK!

    • KnownDonorDad

      Ach du lieber…

  • Michael R
    • fuzzybits

      And his batteries are bigly.

  • Bluto

    fox & friends are the mostest honest news

  • Ken M

    For all the reminding we get about him winning, he sure sounds like he needs to be reminded again. These lies remind me of him on the campaign trail. Someone needs to remind that his 100 days are over, and he hasn’t done anything he promised he would do. He can’t blame Obama forever, and the GOP can be more hell that he ever imagined. He’s learning, though VERY slowly, that being President isn’t what he thought. He doesn’t make all the rules, there are 3 parts to the govt for a reason. I just want him, and all his painful lies to go away.

  • houstonray

    Lawrence is ON FREAKIN FIRE tonight!

  • SoCalGal20
    • lenvus

      It looks like red balls are hanging down from the chicken’s lips.

  • Stogiebear

    “I’m an honest person.”

    Honest people don’t have to say they’re honest. Liar.

  • boobert

    I did turn on Lawrence. Those are some scary women behind him. I ‘m glad I’m gay !

    • halfwaythere

      Honey, I’m a queer/bi girl and they ALL scare me!

      • ohbear1957

        LOL

  • Refugay

    I can not watch or listen to him speak. Thank you for your comments as I follow along. You are all braver than I am.

    • ultragreen

      I’m not watching him either. I’m tired of him and he’s so predictable.

    • MaryJOGrady

      In my case, my longtime personal Know Your Enemy program can become awfully masochistic.

    • RoFaWh

      Your response is my response and I too say thank you.

      • worstcultever

        Me three

    • Hank

      I watch Lawrence Odonnel, and hit the mute when I need to

  • Stogiebear

    Here comes the announcement of Arpaio’s pardon.

  • lenvus

    Is he going to do it now?
    Bring out the Sheriff?

  • Lazycrockett

    Well twitter isn’t being kind tonight.

  • Michael R


    They were talking about beetles on NPR today

    and we came across this on our walk

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/3af41a6dad3815455aa34e4307ea2a0847429adce28962bad1a42c2b49551a53.jpg

    • fuzzybits

      Beautiful.

      • Dreaming Vertebrate

        Especially the gorgeous colors.

        • another_steve

          There are so many different kinds of beetles it’s ridiculous.

          • djcoastermark

            George, Paul, John, Ringo, just a few that come to mind right off the bat,

          • another_steve

            I’m glad Paul McCartney and Ringo Starr are still with us.

            Age 75 and 77, and goin’ strong.

          • RoFaWh

            Darwin was a beetle enthusiast. The story goes that one time he had a beetle new to his collection in each hand and spotted yet another, so he popped one in his mouth.

            Bad idea. Turned out to be one of those species that squirt vileness when disturbed.

    • worstcultever

      The older I’ve gotten the more I dig spiders and bugs. Just a bunch of critters trying to make an honest living.

      • Oscarlating Wildely

        Ditto but with bats. Fascinating. Utterly fascinating.

        Those and rats.

      • RoFaWh

        When I was in grad school I scored a huge bell jar, the kind you put over a good microscope, and kept spiders in it in my apartment.

    • Ninja0980

      Neat!

    • djcoastermark

      Now I want Lobster for some reason.

    • Dreaming Vertebrate

      Looks like a stag beetle. It is an endangered species in many parts of its habitat.

    • Adam King

      Beautiful. Like waxed and polished mahogany.

  • lenvus

    We are now officially fucked in Arizona. /oy vey

    • lenvus

      I take that back. We “can feel good,” but not tonight…according to that fucking pig of a “president.”

    • another_steve

      Arizona is a beautiful state with beautiful people. We love our good Arizonians – of which there are many.

      • lenvus

        Yes, we have many great people here. “Sheriff” Joe is by no means representative of the people of Arizona. He would like to think he is, but he is just one asshole. Everyone has one asshole, but he was unfortunately born with two. One he uses to spew shit, and his other asshole is the last stage in his digestive process. (And with him, the shit he spews from the first asshole is so nasty, pungent, and harmful, people have been injured and murdered.)

        • another_steve

          Fuck Sheriff Joe. Fuck him royally.

          My husband has family on his mother’s side in Tempe and in Phoenix. We’ve visited.

          Great cities. Lots and lots of great people.

          • lenvus

            I’m so sorry you’ve had that experience. If I ran into him, I don’t have any idea what I would say. I would certainly need someone to restrain me though. I’ll tell you that much.

  • Lazycrockett
    • fuzzybits

      I’m not watching and reading that makes me want to dry heave.

    • Hue-Man

      Panem et circenses

    • RoFaWh

      Momos from Mesa, probably.

  • houstonray

    I'm getting calls from friends watching the #PhoenixRally expressing shock at this spectacle.— Peter Daou (@peterdaou) August 23, 2017

  • jimbo65

    Love how Lawrence broke in to remind the audience that Arpaio is a convicted criminal

  • MaryJOGrady

    Heavy hint of pardon for the loathsome Arpaio to come. Strike that– “Sheriff Joe can feel good.” That’s not a hint, it’s a pledge.

    • jimbo65

      Hopefully the joy of being pardoned will be too much for the old mule and he’ll keel over.

  • Sam_Handwich

    this is ludicrous

    what jury would convict his assassin?

    • Stogiebear

      I wouldn’t.

    • ultragreen

      I’d support building a monument to his assassin.

      • Sam_Handwich

        and the horse in upon which he rode

        • ultragreen

          Pence DID say we should build more monuments to record our history.

        • Oscarlating Wildely

          Who said anything about just a he?

  • Lazycrockett
  • MaryJOGrady

    I am so glad that I have y’all to help me endure this.

  • Matt

    OK… I admit it… I am truly speechless. 🙄

  • Lazycrockett

    MSNBC is throwing out the word liar like they are playing scrabble.

    • jimbo65

      And to that I say Bravo!

    • houstonray

      EVERY news outlet needs to start doing this. I hate when they say ‘misspoke’ or ‘stretched the truth’ or ‘did state the facts clearly’. UGH, for fuck’s sake get off the pot and call it what it is: A lying liar!

      • RoFaWh

        That’s why he’s widely referred to as President Liar.

    • Lumpy Gaga

      “liar” doesn’t even get you a big score on Triple Word.

  • Bluto

    without hyperbole this is a nazi rally

  • Lazycrockett
    • Oscarlating Wildely

      Arms crossed, looking downward, thinking “oh fuck, now what?”

    • houstonray

      I would say I wish he would resign but I worry that he’s all that stands between Trump and the nuke buttons….

  • ultragreen

    So has Trump wandered off the trail again? Meaning, not reading from the teleprompter?

    • Hank

      Who Cares??

    • houstonray

      I don’t think he’s been on the teleprompter at all tonight. It’s there but I’m not sure he’s said anything from it.

    • Sam_Handwich

      but he wanders off, much to the despair of his handlers

    • Bluto

      how can you tell? he rambles from 1 boogeyman to the next.

  • Lazycrockett

    The Wall BS.

  • Sam_Handwich

    Pakistan is now paying for the wall.

    • ultragreen

      Why? What have they done? Didn’t allow Trump to build another hotel?

      • Hank

        No, a Golf Course!

    • Oscarlating Wildely

      [You do know he doesn’t know where Pakistan is, right? He thinks it’s after Mexico in the alphabet so it has to be close.]

  • Lazycrockett

    Well enough of this bullshit, I got The Defenders to watch.

    • jimbo65

      Oh me too. Will try to watch at least the first two episodes tonight. Enjoy.

  • Sam_Handwich

    jesus christ

    Jenn Rubin. gotta give her credit

    • SoCalGal20

      I want to see her and Ana Navarro on a panel lol!

  • Michael R
    • worstcultever

      these are such great lil’ movies! and the pooch is so adorable

    • fuzzybits

      Makes me think I need to quit eating these potato chips and have a shot of wheat grass.

    • fuzzybits

      He/she? looks like they had a great evening.

    • Lazycrockett

      That seems like an incredible happy dog. Good Job to you.

    • FAEN

      ❤️🐶❤️🐶❤️🐶

      xoxo + pats

  • ohbear1957

    Has he said anything tonight that could get him impeached? Hoping.

    • Bluto

      the insanity thing is becoming more evident.

      • ohbear1957

        Thank you. I just couldn’t make myself watch this shitshow. I’ll catch pieces of it tomorrow on MSNBC or JMG.

    • boatboy_srq

      Impeached? not AFAIK. Committed? Quite possibly.

  • Natty Enquirer

    A demagogue in his natural element.

  • worstcultever

    Bats were mentioned downthread. Have some baby bats!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbTWWWtFFUs

    • djcoastermark

      Aaaawww.

    • Oscarlating Wildely

      Little fox faces!

    • houstonray

      Such an enigmatic creature. Furry adorable kitten/fox faces and freakin leathery wings!!! Love nature….

      • worstcultever

        I know, really amazing – their wings are just really webbed fingers, sorta

    • Ninja0980

      Love flying foxes!

    • Ross

      F A B U L O U S ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !

    • Adam King

      Baby bat burritos!

  • lenvus

    How funny for him to talk about obstruction in the Senate when there was nothing BUT obstruction from the Republicans under President Obama for eight, count them, EIGHT damn years!! /angry

    • worstcultever

      also too, it’s his own farkin party

      • Hank

        The GOP does not want him anymore. /s

        • boatboy_srq

          The establishment GOP didn’t want him in the first place. They took him because they were afraid their voters would go full metal Johnson if they didn’t.

    • Ninja0980

      He and the entire GOP have a memory lapse from those years.

    • boatboy_srq

      Well, TABMITWH back then. Can’t have one o’them uppity Blah People Presidentin’, now can we?

      /s

      • lenvus

        “TABMITWH”?

        • boatboy_srq

          There’s A Black Man In The White House.

  • boatboy_srq

    When you’re tanking and you know it, go campaign!
    When you’re tanking and you know it, go campaign!
    When you’re tanking and you know it,
    And your poll results all show it,
    When you’re tanking and you know it, go campaign!

    • Stogiebear

      The Ballad of Lord Dampnut

    • Treant

      When they’re saying “25th,” throw a nuke! …

  • jimbo65

    Oh no Lawrence. Thanks. You did it the right way breaking in to point out the lies!

  • Bluto
  • Sam_Handwich

    Where does this leave Kelly?

    Is there a WH press briefing scheduled for tomorrow?

    Many of the best people are calling for popcorn.

  • lenvus
  • Natty Enquirer

    Okay, had to hit the STOP button. Couldn’t take any more of that poisonous peacock.

    • Hue-Man

      • Cuberly

        Awwwwww…..I miss my cockatiel. She was so cute and affectionate. 🙁

  • Ken M

    Kid behind him on his phone. Thank you for telling it like it is. His generation couldn’t care.

  • blackstar
    • ultragreen

      Yeah, no more celebrating people who commit treason and support slavery. Boo-hoo, Trump.

      • KnownDonorDad

        No participation trophies for traitors!

    • Paul

      You’re in freaking ARIZONA, which didn’t become a state until 50 YEARS AFTER the Civil War!

  • Michael R

    Interesting fact :
    Fuckface Von Clownstick is NOT going to improve with age .

    • TampaDink

      Something that he, himself has claimed has not happened since he was 7 yrs. old.

  • Stogiebear

    OH, what I would give if someone behind him were to hold up a sign that said, “Grab the Pussy.”

    • boatboy_srq

      Thanks: now I’m waiting for the Wierd Al spoof of the Peter Gabriel tune.

  • Lazycrockett
    • SoCalGal20

      Bravo Phoenix!

  • Bluto

    he just bounces back & forth from self-fellating to pissing on everyone else.

    • boatboy_srq

      And all that just to prove that he is has a d!ck.

    • Adam King

      That’s all he’s ever done. That’s his entire life and body of thought, in one sentence.

  • Oscarlating Wildely
  • Bluto

    clean coal!

  • bambinoitaliano
    • boobert

      done, lol.

    • Dreaming Vertebrate

      Melania: He gets really agitated about his actual size in the sac, too.
      So disappointing. Sad!!

  • Stogiebear

    Beautiful, clean coal. It shines, it glitters, it’s smells springtime fresh!

  • Ken M

    He’s got their money…isn’t he done yet?

  • ohbear1957
  • MikeBx2

    While her husband is spewing hate…
    https://twitter.com/FLOTUS/status/900190933274308608

    • djcoastermark

      Ooooh is somebody gonna be in trouble when donnie gets home.

    • Skeptical_Inquirer

      My eyes are rolling back into my skull. Sure, she probably does appreciate kind words for her son, who I actually believe she cares about, but she’s pretty much makes it clear he’s the only target she cares about.

    • JCF

      “…and I promise my husband will stop slandering your mother as ‘Crooked’!”

      No?

    • Treant

      “Also, fuck your loser whore of a mother.” #StopBullying #FirstWhore #ContractWife

  • Oscarlating Wildely

    We’re still here, asshole.

    And we still hate you.

    https://img1.etsystatic.com/170/0/10884303/il_340x270.1178005819_cbn3.jpg

  • ohbear1957
  • Bluto

    so now Canadians are assholes too.

  • worstcultever

    1) all you watchers deserve a bravery medal 2) as expected, he’s more obviously unhinged by the day & moment 3) crowds for this bullshit are clearly dwindling (down now to what – half what they were?) 4) Lawrence O’Donnell is more and more a national treasure 5) Charlottesville has wrecked his divisive schtick nationally – but it’s all he knows so he’ll keep flogging it for the cultists 6) overall I feel good, his self-destruction continues 7) Hey Dumpy – MUELLER MUELLER MUELLER *evil laugh*

    • Ken M

      Smaller in size and, no offense intended, further along in years.

      • worstcultever

        good!

  • Michael R
    • Oscarlating Wildely

      They forgot that it’s “sushi”– still better and more authentic than Trump.

  • Bluto
  • Ninja0980

    https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/900194365859143682
    Reminder of the one area where Trump IS truly fucking us over… the courts.

    • JCF

      Barf, don’t remind me…

  • Stogiebear

    Patriotic platitudes falling like droppings from the ass of a rabbit.

  • Nychta

    He invoked god. Sheesh. “The future belongs to us.” Gee, where have I heard a phrase like this before?
    https://youtu.be/29Mg6Gfh9Co

    • boatboy_srq

      Why does it feel wrong to upvote that?

      Oh, right, Nazis.

    • MaryJOGrady

      That occurred to me immediately. Terrifying.

    • Oscarlating Wildely

      “But he can’t be bad! That cute little boy… no…. it’s just heritage! How dare they try to take that from us!”

    • Jim Gallagher-Barker

      OMG Am I the only one that sees the resemblance to Barron?

      • RoFaWh

        But Barron apparently has enough backbone to tell the old man off when nagged about wearing coat and tie all the time. Poor, poor Donny-boy didn’t have the balls to do, neither did his first two sons.

  • Jim Gallagher-Barker

    And there it is… Tomorrow Belongs to Me

  • Jean-Marc in Canada

    So, America wants a trade war…so be it. Here’s hoping we cut off water, electricity, oil, gas, minerals, metals, ores, wheat, corn, radiology isotopes, etc. As our PM said, Canada will go around Trump’s America.

    UPDATE: Please don’t think my angry outburst is meant as a slight to the many sane Americans out there…it’s just this is truly the final straw for many of us up here.

    • boatboy_srq

      Lord Dampnut: Making America Isolationist Again.

    • Bluto

      Take away my maple syrup & I’ll cut you.

      • SoCalGal20

        Vermont maple syrup! Buy American!!! MAGA!!!!!!!!!!!

        • Jean-Marc in Canada

          Actually, have you tasted Vermount Maple Syrup, not even close. Canadian MP is the gold standard by which all others are judge.

    • Jim Gallagher-Barker

      Donny wants a trade war, not America.

      • Jean-Marc in Canada

        Many of us no longer see it that way; more to the point, we just don’t care anymore. He’s your president, that means, whether you like it or not, he speaks for you. As my still recovering American born but Canadian by choice husbotter said moments ago, “Americans have had months to deal with this asshole and they’ve done nothing. Protests are fine, but more direct action was called for months ago and they did nothing.” Suffice to say, he’s pissed off and I think he’s also frustrated and embarrassed by what his country of birth has become. Simply put, the platitudes and the “it isn’t us” is wearing thin. #2ndor25thDecideAmerica

        • Jim Gallagher-Barker

          Hey, I’m not disagreeing with you, Jon. I didn’t vote for the motherfucker and I’ve done what I can to protest his continuing presence as a boil on the ass of the country and the Presidency. Hell, I’d move to Canada if I could. Nice people, relatively sane government, and I think I qualify due to my Canadian-born Grandmother.

          • Jean-Marc in Canada

            Hot PM, you forgot HOT PM

          • Jim Gallagher-Barker

            That I’m hoping my husband will let me put on the “not only are you forgiven, but you’d better invite me” list.

    • Lazycrockett

      The world is going around Drumpf. He has greatly harmed US power status and more than enough countries are willing and eager to fill the gap.

    • SoCalGal20

      (Please open diplomatic relations with the California Republic)

  • Jim Gallagher-Barker

    He needs to remember that. You don’t always get what you wan t…

    • Nychta

      Did he really end the rally with that song? I seem to recall he used it during the campaign, too. I thought the Stones had asked him to cut it out.

      • Oscarlating Wildely

        I am sure they did.

        As usual, he didn’t give a shit.

        • RoFaWh

          Wait until he gets a bill, refuses to pay it, then later arrives at Drumpf Dower and finds the sheriff on the steps auctioning it off.

      • boatboy_srq

        IIRC they did. Lord Dampnut still operates as if he can do what he pleases because has the nastier lawyers.

  • SoCalGal20
    • boatboy_srq

      Crazification factor plus 8%.

  • People4Humanity

    GOP Senate candidate Roy Moore has said he doesn’t believe Obama is a natural-born citizen – CNN
    https://apple.news/AFASfI6B_TPWdFep0ycxGUA

    • boatboy_srq

      Can we counter that we don’t believe Donald Trump is human?

      • safari

        Ana Navarro gave us permission

      • RoFaWh

        Nor is Roy Moore.

    • billbear1961

      Yes, I just read that on Political Wire.

      Hello, P4H!

    • worstcultever

      next he’ll comment on Hillary killing Vince Foster

  • Ninja0980

    O/T but just saw pics of Don Lemon with his bf/latest fling.
    Lucky men, both of them.

  • Skeptical_Inquirer

    If those white supremacists were as superior as they claimed they were, they’d insist on being given MORE obstacles just so they could clear them and show how much more superior they were. They talk as if they were Superman but demand a head start just to keep up.

    • worstcultever

      and it’s those ni-CLANGs who get everything!!!1!!

  • Tom G

    Whatever happened to South Korea!?

    • Skeptical_Inquirer

      Someone gave him a fidget spinner.

  • MikeBx2
    • Oscarlating Wildely

      Shit, I think that the Midwest has seen bigger Tupperware parties.

      • Bluto

        please tell me this is not leading into shredded veggies in jello molds.

    • Sam_Handwich

      Many people are talking about the very bigly crowd

    • SoCalGal20

      I kept laughing when Trump kept bitching about the cameras not showing the big crowd.

    • Bluto

      I had 4 tickets, some of that empty space is mine.

      • JCF

        Applause, applause!

      • Treant

        2 here, via a throwaway SMS and throwaway e-mail addy!

    • Duck

      There was that much room?!

    • RoFaWh

      That guy in the black jammers: needs someone to point out that using the flag for clothing is verboten and what is he, some sort of anti-american?

  • halfwaythere

    A commentator earlier spoke of possible violence as Trumpanistas left the rally. Let’s hope not.

    • RoFaWh

      Can we pray for an unexpected asteroid strike?

  • worstcultever

    Dumpy is so over. I mean he’s still a menace, but god damn, he’s over.

  • Ken M

    And Twitter fully explodes in 10.9.8.7.6.5.4.3.2……….

  • Michael R
  • Ken M

    “We love cameras” LMAO

  • bambinoitaliano
  • people at my other blog are having a field day, just like here, with this rally. wow the man is an idiot thru and thru. i almost feel sorry for people associated with this train wreck. almost.

    he clearly has lost all command and understanding of how the media works. they are preying on him now, and he still thinks he’s their darling. they are still making money off him, but now? it’s because, to put it in terms he might understand, he’s now the income-generating ‘bad guy,’ where once he was the new, fresh, alternative ‘outsider’ voice. wow did he burn that brand to ashes fast. like, faster than any other president i can think of. i guess that’s what the combo of drugs, dementia, and willful ignorance brings a washed up failure of a social climber.

    • -M-

      Professional wrestling, is a good metaphor.

    • RoFaWh

      I doubt he’s ever had any “command and understanding” of how the media works.

      No three year old knows that kind of thing.

  • safari
    • Ninja0980

      Or family values etc.

  • BobSF_94117

    There are 1.6M people in Phoenix, 4.5M in the metro area.

    Why is it that we couldn’t assemble 100,000 people to stand outside, non-violently, in protest? Nothing would rattle him more than seeing a crowd that size.

    • billbear1961

      Well, they managed 10K.

      • djcoastermark

        10 k kkk’s? Were at the rally?

        • billbear1961

          10K anti-Trumps.

          How many WERE at his rally to cheer him?

          • djcoastermark

            Oops, I meant 10 k in the rally. If that . ( doesn’t seem any where near that figure) It seems like there were a lot more protesters ( anti t rump) than 10k.

          • billbear1961

            Only the front half of 50% of the space available was filled.

            So, 7 or 8 thousand, tops?

          • Nychta

            I haven’t seen any figures yet.

    • Sam_Handwich

      what was the count inside the rally?

      it’s 100F outside and humid. it’s a work/school night for many.

      trump will crash on his own.

      • RoFaWh

        Still, it doesn’t hurt to give him a little nudge closer to the precipice.

      • Nychta

        After living in Phoenix for a while, 100 degrees starts to feel like sweater weather, LOL.

  • safari
    • Bluto

      shits ‘n giggles.

    • billbear1961

      To please their beloved NAZI-in-chief.

    • Oscarlating Wildely

      So he can emerge from the fog?

      • billbear1961

        Gasping for air, falling flat on his goddamned face.

    • Nychta

      To paraphrase Trump asking about nuclear weapons in 2016: “If we have tear gas, why can’t we use it?”

    • Ken M

      Standard crowd dispersion. Even by conservative numbers, the police were looking at 25000 people between both sides.

      • Lumpy Gaga

        It’s a 29K capacity facility.

        Why not hold it at an opera house or TV studio?

        • Ken M

          Shrugging my shoulders. Why did the narcissist we currently have for a president have to go against the respectful request of the city and state leaders and simply cancel it? You may have noticed, he never did give a reason for not doing so.

  • bambinoitaliano
  • safari
    • djcoastermark

      In the vid, the little guy looks like he’s in his natural habitat, peeking out the window, just waiting for someone to come back home.

    • Mickey Bitsko

      John Cage’s “4’33” has never been performed so poignantly.

  • bambinoitaliano
  • Nychta

    So I listened to the part of Trump’s rant about The Wall on my drive home this evening. All I heard was someone who likes to whip up a crowd and pit people against one another.

    In contrast to the leaden delivery yesterday of his Afghanistan plan, tonight he sounded like someone on fire, manipulating the audience – which was already on his side anyway.

    There’s no appeal to logic or facts in a setting like this. During the campaign I came across the phrase “post-factual democracy” (forgot where I first read it), and that’s where we are. Trump knows nothing about the reality of those of us “white” folks who live in AZ and who don’t fear but respect Mexicans and Latinos, who recognize that Mexico is AZ’s chief trade partner, who realize that many farms and nurseries in the state rely on immigrant labor (though working conditions and pay for immigrants/migrants is a whole other issue). He doesn’t know and he doesn’t care and it doesn’t matter. He knows that he can toss out references to MS-13, and talk about retaking American towns, as if MS-13 is an occupying force like ISIS, and the crowd will eat it up.

    Oh, and what exactly is “the Yuma sector?” I always thought Yuma was a city here in AZ where they grow lots of lettuce and where it’s even hotter than Phoenix. Maybe it became a sector after Trump drove out MS-13. He bragged that it was 115 degrees today, but he stood outside for an hour signing autographs.

    • Sam_Handwich

      butter emails

      • Lumpy Gaga

        buttery males

        • JCF

          creamy females 😉

    • Michael R

      ” The very point of Trump is to validate the pleasure of spouting shit, the joy of pure emotion, often anger, without any sense. And an audience which has already spent a decade living without facts can now indulge in a full, anarchic liberation from coherence. ”

      Peter Pomerantsev

      Why We’re Post Fact

      https://granta.com/why-were-post-fact/

  • bambinoitaliano
    • Max_1

      He prefers soldiers that don’t die?
      … We know how he feels about them captured.

  • Ken M

    I’m going to side with the police for their methods of crowd dispersion. Whoever was effected (from either side) will get over it. The rally went off without anything “newsworthy” to report. The speech was a laugh, but I will let twitter have its way there.

    • billbear1961

      You don’t disperse a peaceful crowd by GASSING them, except in a goddamned POLICE STATE.

      • Ken M

        We’re going to butt heads here Mr.B. What would you suggest as a way to disperse 25000 people who disagree with each other?

        • Oscarlating Wildely

          If that’s the process, I dread being in wherever the RNC is held for 2020. There has to be another way.

          • Ken M

            I was asking for an alternative. 25000, at night, at emotional odds, in the middle of a major city.

          • Oscarlating Wildely

            But at the very least, was a warning given? That has to be protocol. Was notice given to disperse or gas?

          • Ken M

            I mentioned above that there isn’t anything on line or twitter that is showing anything except “after the fact.” Any protocol may, or may not have been followed. More than one person questioned made claims of having video the event. When some of that is released, we will hopefully have those answers.

        • stevenj

          Doesn’t the Phoenix PD have bullhorns? Usually an order to disperse is issued first.

          • Ken M

            All I’ve been able find is “after the fact” comments and video reactions. I don’t know what, if anything, was done before hand.

          • Oscarlating Wildely

            I have no idea of their process either but would also note that a page may have to be taken from expected protest protocol of the past: camps set up very separate from each other. I know. It decreases the impact but welcome to America.

          • Ken M
          • stevenj

            You still think it’s a good idea to spray peaceful protesters with tear gas (even with no order to disperse)?

          • Ken M

            I never said I thought it was a good idea.

          • stevenj

            “I’m going to side with the police for their methods of crowd dispersion.”

          • Ken M

            As opposed to what other methods? We don’t know if the crowd(s) received warnings or not. We do know it ended without further incident. Many there claim to have videos. When released we will have a better idea of ALL that went on.

          • stevenj

            If “we” know it ended without further incident and you don’t know if a warning was issued why would you side with the police using tear gas? I have been in demonstrations where that starts a riot.

          • zhera

            Time. Patience. Sensible leadership. Proper training of cops.

            You know, like they do in real democracies.

        • billbear1961

          Unless there is violence, you DON’T use tear gas, Ken, not in a CIVILIZED society, you don’t.

  • fuzzybits

    Remember when all we had to worry about was rhubarb theft? https://youtu.be/SDKuWphUaWI

    • safari

      I’m still waiting for her cabinet or judicial nomination.

    • Bluto

      Give her the ambassadorship to Aruba.

    • CharlestonDave

      I’m pretty sure she has a column on Breitbart.

  • bambinoitaliano
  • Lazycrockett
    • safari

      I mean. We know he’s going to die in jail.

      • Jean-Marc in Canada

        I would just settle for die at this point….I suspect I’m not alone in feeling this way

        • 1amgroot

          No you are not.

        • billbear1961

          No, you are NOT alone.

  • 1amgroot

    Trump is a global embarrassment. The truth has him completely rattled.

  • Jean-Marc in Canada

    Credit where due. Don Lemon finally grew a pair of brass ones and didn’t mince words.

    https://twitter.com/yashar/status/900204473389383685

    Where was all this chutzpah when Trump was running?

  • Oscarlating Wildely
  • Lazycrockett
    • Oscarlating Wildely

      They’re just standing there! Why they fuck are they being gassed?

      • safari

        The police are bored

        • billbear1961

          God damn the bastards!

      • billbear1961

        It’s the new Police State USA.

        It’s OUTRAGEOUS!

    • SoCalGal20

      That seems like some good ol’ boys kind of shit. “Yeah, we’ll let your protest happen but, “Oh! Look, here have some tear gas””.

    • Ken M

      Est crowd of 25000, between both sides. Maintaining the peace during crowd dispersion is all the police were trying to do. The gassing wasn’t exclusive to the protesters.

      • safari

        …the crowd looked pretty dispersed.

        • Oscarlating Wildely

          Exactly. Why are they gassing people who are not threatening but just standing still– all facing in different directions?

          • billbear1961

            Because they’re sadistic, fascist ASSHOLES?

          • NZArtist

            Because that’s what happens in dictatorships. Dont you watch the news?
            The USA is now that country you see on the news with images of gassing citizens. It’s that country you see and you shake your head thinking you never want to go to a broken place like that.

          • zhera

            This is true. I have a friend who’s going to the US next month. I’m not pleased.

          • Lumpy Gaga

            Hoping to fill up the arena?

        • Ken M

          The crowd was dispersed in Charlottesville too. I’m not saying it was needed, but after last weekend the police everywhere are taking NO chances. Have you read about the police plans for SF for the weekend? It’s going to look ugly no matter where these rallies take place. Maintaining a lack of group violence is the goal.

          • stevenj

            Actual plans. Imagine that. Berkeley and SF are not Phoenix. The usually heavily armed “Patriots” will be gathering on federal land at GGNRA Crissy Field where federal law permits carrying a weapon. Just hoping enough people will get down there first and take all the parking. Of course there is going to be a heavy police presence. And Berkeley…….

          • Ken M

            http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/08/22/with-all-hands-on-deck-police-action-bay-area-cities-prepare-for-free-speech-rallies/ I have this down further. You may, or may not, have seen it. It’s the start of the “plans” for SF. Too many people, on both sides, don’t seem to realize that, very much without notice, the plans, and the rules are changing. Not always for what seems to be the better.

      • billbear1961

        You don’t “maintain the peace” by GASSING peaceful protesters!

      • djcoastermark

        Gassing people doesn’t sound to peaceful to me.

        • Ken M

          Was there any violence from the crowd on either side?

        • BobSF_94117

          Depends on which gas you use…

      • zhera

        What? That’s insane! Gassing peaceful people to maintain peace? Sure they weren’t trying to incite a riot?

        • Ken M

          Even the people there haven’t been clear on what all happened before the gas was implemented. There are many claims of videos being taken. Let’s hope they answer the questions we all have.

    • stevenj

      Roughin up what’s left of the crowd, trump style.

    • Lumpy Gaga

      Entertainment.

    • djcoastermark

      And t rump will proudly proclaim, “see, those leftwingantifablacklives thugs are so violent we had to tear gas them last night” And you can bet, every single right wing nut job web site will be shouting this tomorrow.

      • TonberryPi

        They’re shouting it now, on Twitter.

  • Stephen Elliot Phillips

    Me me me me me me me me
    Oh did i tell you about me and how I am being treated?????

  • DaveMiller135

    In the film, “Soapdish,” Sally Fields plays an aging soap star, who makes Whoopi Goldberg, her favorite writer, take her to the mall, whenever she feels down or unpopular, so that her fans can “discover” her in their midst and fawn over her. Sorry, why did I think of that?

    • Dreaming Vertebrate

      Well, this is the sequel, DopeDish.

  • Oscarlating Wildely
  • Ninja0980

    https://twitter.com/scottwongDC/status/900207785010442242
    Nope, the GOP owns Trump and laid the groundwork for him.
    They need to go down along with him on the ship.

  • JCF

    Oh darn, I missed it!

  • Lumpy Gaga

    Bombing hippies: cheap entertainment since 1968

  • SoCalGal20
  • Nychta
    • Dreaming Vertebrate

      It would be terrible if he slipped and fell under the treads of that massive tank. Terrible!

    • Oscarlating Wildely

      WWJD?

      • Cuberly

        Clap?

        • carrot festival

          Golf clap

          • Cuberly

            Most definitely.

    • JCF

      PLEASE tell me this is a parody?

    • Cuberly

      Misty’s retweets are…..uh…..well…

      https://twitter.com/W_C_Patriot/status/867373560611733504

      • Only, according to the myth, unlike the American soldier Jeebus didn’t stay dead. So, basically Jeebus sacrificed his weekend for your sins.
        Thanks Obama!

    • William

      Putin did it first.

  • Cuberly
    • Robincho

      Trump lied. Must be a day ending in “y”…

      • Cuberly

        And thinking people are surprised…..nope….(sigh)

        I mourn for the Cult45.

        • Robincho

          I agree, yet I still encourage the Cult 44…

          • Cuberly

            Ha!

    • Talisman

      Any publicity is good publicity.

    • He also claimed it was the biggest crowd ever in history…in an arena with 10,000 estimated attending where capacity is 29k.

      • Robincho

        This shit is so EASY to disprove. And yet he persists…

        • carrot festival

          All he has to do is utter his fallback phrase, “fake news” and his deplorables just squirm in their basket.

          • Robincho

            And I’ve seen WAY better (and usually bigger) baskets…

        • billbear1961

          Why aren’t the Democrats organizing massive and relentless protests to DEMAND this maniac’s removal from power?

          Even without what Mueller may uncover, there is already PLENTY to use to demand he step down!

          This NAZI is unfit and DANGEROUS–there is no excuse, at this point, not to launch protests to demand his removal from office!

          That we are NOT in the streets to demand he step down is INEXCUSABLE!!

        • whollyfool

          I see what you did there. 🙂

      • Cuberly

        Well, that 25% of the population laps this shit up.

        Gawd is this tiring.

        • We’re all trying to counter and argue with a certifiably insane man whose pathological narcissism has caused him to reject reality itself.

          Yeah, it’s exhausting.

          • Cuberly

            Best to not engage the un-en-gageable. I threw my hands up a long time ago when it came to Cult45.

            Best to hoe new rows, the dems can’t win over donnie’s chaos crew.

          • billbear1961

            It is INEXCUSABLE that there is not ONE prominent elected voice DEMANDING his removal from power for all the reasons I and others have listed again and again and AGAIN.

          • Lumpy Gaga

            Which reminds me. Taylor Swift is re-emerging from her hiatus.

      • billbear1961

        So, there were as many protesters as there were deplorables.

      • whollyfool

        He was including the protesters

  • This is why I haven’t slept well since November:
    https://twitter.com/CAPAction/status/900210924912508932
    Because it’s true. And Clinton warned us all, even though most of us didn’t need that warning.

    • billbear1961

      Trump has to be forced from office.

      We need massive and relentless protests to force Congress to ACT.

    • Max_1

      Something, something, e-mails, something, something…
      … Oh, and she gave speeches to goldManSucks.

      • Whereas Donnie just went and hired the whole lot to run everything money-related in his admin.

        Yeah, no difference between them. /s

        • Max_1

          None, whatsoever…

          edit: … /s

      • whollyfool

        You mean all those White House advisors?

    • houstonray

      He’s very somber and that’s very disturbing. What the fuck is it going to take?

  • Nychta
    • billbear1961

      LET them protest peacefully against the demented NAZI who SQUATS in the White House!

      IT IS THEIR RIGHT!!

      • Max_1

        I’ve often wondered in similar cases, as to exactly why the police are used to defend elements of society that are a menace to society as a whole. Instead dispatched to sometimes attack the riled citizens.

        • clay

          They are used to protect “the peace”, the current “social order” regardless of the law.

  • Jay Mills

    HOly shit! Phoenix police just opened fire with chemical weapons against peaceful protesters with no warning! The police are openly taking sides. We are fucked!

    • William

      They will have some explaining to do.

      • MBear

        No. No they wont

    • Jay Mills

      update: a police officer just drove by a group of protesters and yelled:
      “Fuck you!”.

      • JCF

        Arpaio’s Boys?

      • Max_1

        Well, talk about serving and protecting the people…

  • Max_1
  • MBear

    Wow. Just freakin wow

  • Cuberly

    OT: I so wish I wasn’t allergic. 🙁

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JG34rEIyGhs

    • safari

      Kitty!

      • Cuberly

        I wanna give it a skritch so bad!

      • JCF

        with Kitty Motor!

    • JCF

      Just for you, kitty! [apropos :35 and after 🙂 ]

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6nfpxZ2Nz4

      • Mikey

        awww, that was my husband’s and my wedding song!

      • Cuberly

        Have always loved her voice. This is a fave of course. 😉

    • Duck

      OMG that purr.

  • Lumpy Gaga

    Altamont ’17.

  • Cuberly

    OT: I don’t like to pile on in a sexist manner. That’d be messed up. Munchin is a train wreck of a human being to begin with. Cashing on on foreclosed homes is monumentally worse than the train wreck that is his spouse. But, alas. We have another “reality” show cast member here. And, it gets uglier.

    https://twitter.com/LPDah/status/900230242878578688

    • Lazycrockett

      But his spouse played a complete “let them eat cake” with her ” how cute your life must be”. That bitch needs to be dragged.

    • safari

      Donald pitiched a pilot about a wealthy family based on his own life. The faux-family’s name: The Barrons.

      • Cuberly

        Comedy or another season of Horror Story?

    • William

      Louise’s parents own a castle.

      • Cuberly

        Yep, and it shows.

      • CharlestonDave

        She seems like the kind of person who would make sure you knew that within moments of meeting her.

      • bambinoitaliano

        Did they buy from Maleficent?

  • kevin vincent

    Those saying it is tear gas are incorrect reading from other sources it was a smoke bomb not gas

    • Jay Mills

      thank you “kevin” lol

      • kevin vincent

        Why the quotation marks around my name? I’m pointing out what I heard on other places

        • clay

          Phoenix police, themselves, say they used “pepper balls” that release pepper spray.

  • JWC

    te man is really really Nuking Futz

  • Cuberly

    “He is the first president I feel in my lifetime that speaks his mind and speaks from the heart,” Hutson said. “He says what needs to be said.”

    http://www.sfgate.com/news/politics/article/Trump-protesters-expected-to-flood-downtown-11950255.php

    https://media.giphy.com/media/paWPW8rANqucw/source.gif

  • Cuberly
    • JCF

      rim-SHOT!

  • MBear

    Was reading some of the news feeds. Reviewing the comments makes it apparent the Russian trollbots are out in full force

  • Cuberly
  • Max_1
  • blackstar
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  • That_Looks_Delicious

    I didn’t watch the speech, but I just looked at the recaps/”highlights” on The Hill, MSNBC, Politico, Kyle Griffin, Ana Navarro, David Corn, Don Lemon, etc. and it would appear that he gave another hour of WTF.

  • Treant

    I got very lucky and missed it! We had incredibly severe thunderstorms here, with two tornadoes down and constant EBS (Emergency Broadcast System to non-Americans) interruptions letting us know where the storms were.

    At the height of the storms, we were down on the ground floor with one TV on the local news to keep us updated. Yet we only got a quarter inch of rain.

    I amused myself by writing two-sentence horror stories based loosely on our predicament.

    “The EBS signal just went off and warned us that if we hear our name whispered in an unfamiliar voice, we should run and hide. They also said not to look at the ceiling under any circumstances.”

  • hdtex

    Make no mistake — if you are watching you know this — Donald Trump is literally holding a white supremacist rally in Phoenix right now. Inciting violence and hate against media, immigrants, Democrats, all of his opponents. He’s speaking directly to the neo-Nazis and haters he wouldn’t condemn. And they are praising him. And saluting him at the rally and beyond.

  • Michael R
  • bambinoitaliano
  • Michael R
    • Treant

      Here’s the sadder truth, Hillary. So many Americans didn’t care that it was enough to tip the EC his way. Possibly. Russian involvement can’t be ruled out.

  • Gene Perry

    Watched Perz T____ bash the “media” again last night, especially CNN. If I owned CNN, I would have turned off my cameras and walked away. Let’s see what happens when the “media” refuses to carry his rants live!

  • doninkansas

    I listened to some short clips, all that I could stand, and am I the only one that thinks he gets more like Mussolini every day? His facial expressions, hand gestures, intonation, message etc.

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