Adam Schiff: It’s Premature To Talk About Removing Trump For Being Mentally Incapacitated [VIDEO]

The Washington Post reports:

Rep. Adam B. Schiff (D-Calif.) said Sunday that he sees “some serious issues” with President Trump’s capabilities that aren’t likely to get better but that it’s premature to consider invoking a constitutional provision to force him from office.

“I certainly think that there’s an issue with the president’s capability. There’s some attribute of his character that makes him seemingly incapable of introspection and a broad understanding of what the country really needs, and I think it’s a question that people are asking, you know, ‘What is going on with this president? What can explain this kind of behavior?’” Schiff said during an appearance on CNN’s “State of the Union.”

More from Politico:

Schiff’s comments came when he was asked by host Jake Tapper to respond to Democratic Rep. Jackie Speier’s call Tuesday to invoke the 25th Amendment, which empowers the vice president and Cabinet to remove a president who is incapable of serving.

That remedy, Schiff noted, was primarily envisioned for a president who has “some kind of physical incapacitation or serious mental illness, a breakdown.”

“We’re still far from concluding that that’s the case even though we find, many of us, his conduct anathema,” Schiff said. He added, “I don’t think we’re at a point of thinking about the 25th Amendment.”

  • FAEN

    As Gavin Newsome said on Maher the day-we need to give people a reason to vote FOR us rather than just against Cheeto.

    • Dan

      Well we gave a huge chunk of the country healthcare. That didnt work.
      We saved the American Auto industry from total failure and that didn’t work.
      We rebuilt American home values after two back to back collapses. That didn’t work.
      We killed Osama Bin Laden and were told we’re soft on terror.
      We began rebuilding the nuclear arsenal and were told we hate the military.
      We had a first lady who didn’t rub her vagina on airplane wings holding semi automatic weapons. She was ridiculed for going sleeveless.

      Im open to suggestions.

      • Chucktech

        Yeah, but that was all done by a negro Muslim socialist from Kenya, you see.

        • Silver Badger

          And yet they expect us to work with them. “Do as I say, not as I do.”

          • Ninja0980

            Same with the judicial branch.
            Democrats nominate centrists to the bench and Republicans call them activist judges and block them anyway.
            Meanwhile they can nominate folks to the right of Hitler and demand they be given an up or down vote or we’re obstructing.
            Once again, do as I say, not as I do.

      • Silver Badger

        Don’t forget saving the country from a depression and rebuilding the economy.

      • FAEN

        I have a feeling those ideas would work better now that people have an idea of what it’s like to live under chaos and craziness.

        • Silver Badger

          I don’t know. You really can’t fix determined stupidity.

        • TampaZeke

          Most Trump voters still support him. It’s more like a cult than an electorate.

          • Christopher

            Exactly!

            That’s why I’ve started referring to his supporters as acolytes.

          • FAEN

            True but we’re not trying to convert Trump voters. It’s the voters who are apathetic that we’re trying to reach.

          • Todd20036

            Most Bernie Bros feel the same way of their “savior” as well

      • TampaZeke

        Thank you for saying the same thing I’ve been repeatedly saying to liberal hand wringers who “both siderized” Trump and Hillary. Hillary provided a real plan for the country in healthcare, economics, foreign relations, etc. with SPECIFICS as to how she hoped to accomplish them. Trump gave nothing but wild promises and loaded broad generalities and became angry when anyone said “yeah, but HOW?” But still, middle America, poor America, unemployed America, Rust belt America, Coal country America, sick America went right out and voted for Trump.

        What exactly was it that we were supposed to do to appeal to stupid people?

        • Ninja0980

          Say that we’re willing to be racist, homophobic, sexist etc.
          Of course we’ll lose all the other parts of our base if we do that.

        • Chucktech

          What exactly was it that we were supposed to do to appeal to stupid people? Not be a woman or a colored guy.

        • Friday

          That’s kind of the problem, really, …the productive stuff is usually kinda *boring,* so it doesn’t get the coverage, even compared to stupid granstanding ideas and ‘controversies’ from the Republicans. Policies need to not only work, but be *seen* to work, and for regular folks. It’s one reason the GOP went right after attacking Obama’s infrastructure and ‘green jobs’ programs for the economic recovery, precisely cause that’d have immediately put a bunch of people back to work and made things people could *see* happen. As important as health care policies are, the nuts and bolts are …Complicated and boring news.

      • Tatonka

        The cure would be worse than the disease. The right has gotten used to being pandered to with guns, bald eagles, tits, apacolyptic screeds and authoritarian religion that would make Jesus Christ vomit. It’s not worth chasing their approval.

    • Carl

      I wish that were so. You move left like they ask for and the centrists run to the Republicans and the purity trolls still hate you.

      People like to project their insecurities on the Democratic party during relatively stable times. When they’re up against the wall they beg the Democrats to bail them out. That’s how this country rolls.

  • AtticusP
    • Bj Lincoln

      LOVE it!

    • TrueWords
      • another_steve

        Do you believe that Chipotle is still in business?

        I mean, how many people do they have to poison before they’re forced to shut down?

        • Todd20036

          Dunno, but I’ll never be one of them

          • another_steve

            Neither will we. Man and I occasionally do junk food when we’re out shopping or something and want to save time, but we’ve never done Chipotle.

            Have never done Taco Bell either.

            Anyone reading here have experience – positive or negative – with Taco Bell?

          • Joseph Miceli

            Consider: You get a taco for sixty eight cents. Or… you get two burgers for three dollars.
            Now just what do you think is in there? Where do you go to find ground beef that would make that taco or those two burgers profitable?
            THIS is why I don’t eat fast food.

          • another_steve

            When my body tells me it’s sodium-deprived, I buy a couple of McDonald’s “fish” (quotes, intentional) sandwiches.

            I like the tartar sauce, and my sodium level zooms back to normal in no time.

          • Joseph Miceli

            LOL!

        • Hanwi

          There will always be stupid college kids that think their food is healthy…..surprisingly their stock price is not off that much, all things considered. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/2bae71ceb3ac7753bc8d1a540f36001519224688fbfa4b793de395c8dc2a7c66.jpg

        • Elsewhere1010

          I used to ask questions like that, those “How could you think so many people could be that stupid?” questions.

          I stopped asking after the 2016 Presidential election when it was conclusively proved exactly how many people could be that stupid.

          I don’t have the quote exactly right, but as George Carlin once said, “Think of how intelligent the average America is, then contemplate how 50% of Americans are less intelligent than that.”

      • Treant

        I still trust Chipotle more, and Chipotle gave me super-diarrhea. It’s like regular diarrhea, but…super.

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        • Todd20036

          I’m seeing flying like supermen, jet propelled by explosive diarrhea

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    • MAGABoy

      lol why would they incapacitate him now that Trump is, at last, surrounded and controlled by the globalists?

      • AtticusP

        Why don’t you go peddle your right wing bullshit somewhere else?

        “Globalists” is just another one of those buzzwords. Like “the Southern strategy”. Or “New York values”.

        Go away. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/86b872924b7176d9dea5bfc938480fc3bda2103cbf2e5cac3165f56801d95350.jpg

        • MAGABoy

          Wow we got a permanent ruling class shoving globalism down our throats and your answer is denial? Unbelievable.

          • AtticusP

            Gee, welcome to the way the world really works. Have you really only just figured that out?

            They had people like you in mind when they designed “block this user”. And that’s what I’m going to do. Buh-bye.

          • MAGABoy

            I’m sorry for what they’ve done to you.

  • Bluto

    I prefer we remove 45 before he starts a meatball war & nukes Sweden.

  • Jerry Kott

    T45 has shown signs of mental instability for some time . “if you are poor you are insane, if you are rich , you are eccentric “. It is now just a matter to what degree it will be tolerated.

    • Todd20036

      Trump is insane.

      I’ve no sympathy for him or his family, and anyone who voted for him deserves the consequences of voting for him.

      And anyone who didn’t vote for Clinton deserves the consequences of not voting for Clinton.

      The rest of us don’t deserve this shit.

      • Jerry Kott

        AMEN!

    • JCF

      No, if you’re poor, you are a CRIMINAL (and may be executed by cops accordingly).

  • another_steve

    I’m channeling him:

    “No impeachment. No 25th Amendment. Better to keep him in the White House. No President Pence that way (Pence would be more dangerous than Trump, but in a different way) and Democrats win back control of the House next year.”

    • Gustav2

      Are you having “Joy” this morning, she is on vacation all next week.

      • another_steve

        I can’t find my TV remote.

        I think the cat kicked it under a bed or something.

        • Gustav2

          The cat doesn’t like it when you scream at the TV! lol

  • bkmn

    But can the nation survive while we wait for him to drag the rest of the GOP down with him?

    • Bj Lincoln

      They already have much to answer for and I would LOVE to see the old GOP drop dead. Maybe the new GOP will be more reasonable and willing to work toward the future instead of dragging us backward.

      • Dagoril

        The “new GOP” will likely be full blown Nazi. Swastikas waving around and everything.

      • Ninja0980

        I agree.
        Trump didn’t come out of nowhere.
        He happened because Republicans have spent the past 40 years starting with Nixon demonizing blacks, LGBT, latinos, women who dared to be more then housewives, immigrants and more.

      • bkmn

        If the GOP splits it will go 75% to the Fundies/White Supremacists and 25% to a semi-moderate right wing. I still am not sure if the semi-moderates would be willing to work with Dems but I can guarantee the FWS wing would rather die first.

  • Sam_Handwich
    • TrueWords

      This to me is the most DISGUSTING and HORRIBLE thing he EVER did…then to patently deny it and be forgiven by his voters…

      • Ninja0980

        The minute he did that is the minute my one relative who teaches special ed knew he was unfit to be President.

        • FAEN

          With all due respect to your relative there was a lot before that loathesome incident that indicated he would be a cluster fuck of a POTUS.

          • Todd20036

            The kiddie rape did it for me

        • Chucktech

          I find it interesting when Trump supporters finally throw in the towel and abandon him. I’m curious as to what the final straw actually was. The above ugly episode was very early on in the Trump Chronicles. Some have, incredibly, waited until Charlottesville came along. That it’s taken that long for some is astonishing. And, obviously, some never will. I guess it depends on the level of deplorability we’re talking.

      • Nick in Pasadena

        But many were willing to overlook this because of churning Hillary and Obama hatred, fed by the constant brainwashing of Fox, Breitbart, etc.

    • shellback

      And not a single person in the audience had the humanity to smack him across the face. Pitiful.

    • This was the start of me losing respect for anyone in my life who still supported this P.O.S.

  • Yalma Cuder-Zicci

    Talk to the Trump insiders who say, “You have no idea how much crazy stuff we kill”.

    • Chucktech

      Oh, the books that will be written…

      • geoffalnutt

        On what planet? Earth may be gone.

      • Galvestonian

        yeah … and we’ll probably piss ourselves laughing so hard reading them… or crying into our lace hankies.

  • TampaZeke

    You’ll know when it’s time once you see the mushroom clouds.

  • canoebum

    Yeah….well. Tell ya’ what. I’m going to have to disagree. Ok? So, if you could go ahead and start that 25th Amendment thing, that’d be great.
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/99f67fc7e1ba1cb89355201e17c2efa5722e5b1de0b08fd0de77a155e5c72f4a.jpg

    • Chucktech

      All snark aside, if there’s any doubt that he might actually be mentally unfit, there should be some mechanism that forces him to be objectively and professionally diagnosed.

      I, of course, have zero such doubt.

      • Beagle

        Yes. It may be premature to have a floor vote. It isn’t premature to ask for medical evaluation. Depending on the result of the evaluation, then would be the time for a floor vote.

        • Chucktech

          Rat bastard Republican traitors STILL wouldn’t vote to remove him. Not until they’ve wrung every last jot and tittle of their agenda into law.

      • canoebum

        That’s what Election Primaries are supposed to accomplish. The entire electoral system has failed.

  • Slippy_World
    • Dreaming Vertebrate

      Oh, this is just asking for a total eclipse!

      • Chucktech

        Pfft. It’l never work…

      • That_Looks_Delicious
        • David Walker

          Congratulations. You hit Post about 3 seconds before I did. Ummm…literally. Love this video.

        • BJD

          Because of this I have spent the last half hour watching various versions of Total Eclipse…

          • That_Looks_Delicious

            You’re welcome.

  • Lakeview Bob

    Sure Adam. Let’s wait until he start a nuclear holocaust. That makes good sense.

    • Chucktech

      “Well, we still shouldn’t just rush into removing him…”

    • Vira

      They need to wait until they get enough evidence to indict Pence, McConnell, Ryan and Hatch too.

  • TrueWords
  • TheGrandWazoo2

    Premature evacuation?

  • Anastasia Beaverhousen

    Something beyond comprehension is happening to America in this White House.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/617dc8d8f3bc44d7a53cf6cc6b485337957389e73fc54e3f14aeadc413f9a005.jpg

  • Gerry Fisher

    He’ said right about impeachment but dead wrong about checking his health. We have yet to receive a reliable medical report on his health status.

  • Uncle Mark

    Sounds like someone is waiting for Mueller to land the overwhelming death blows to this sick joke of a presidency

  • TheGrandWazoo2

    If your election lasts more than four months seek medical attention.

    • Todd20036

      Indeed. Trump is STILL talking about the election 7 months later.

  • Michael R

    Too early or too late ?

  • blackstar

    He knows it’s not needed . The FBI.. and New Your State have him going down Rock Solid.

    • Gretchen

      I imagine it would make it difficult to prosecute him if high ranking MoC’s were running about questioning his competency. Why give him a built-in defense when this finally comes to trial?

  • Chucktech

    So, we have to wait for Trump to dissolve into a pool of babbling incoherence, is that what you’re saying??

    Mental defectiveness manifests itself in many forms. Trump is exhibiting mental defectiveness in his own unique way.

  • greenmanTN

    If what we have seen so far isn’t enough, then what the fuck is it going to take?!

    Killing hookers in the Lincoln bedroom?

    Taking a dump on the White House lawn?

    Playing the National Anthem with his armpit?

    Taking off his shirt and shimmying like Pat Benatar in the “Love Is A Batllefield” video?

    https://i.makeagif.com/media/4-17-2015/UrNNIv.gif

    (Get that one out of your brain! Mwahahaha! 😈)

    What does it take?

    • Silver Badger

      I am afraid it may take a heart attack at the top of a large staircase.

      • houstonray

        Shudder…then we’d have airports named after him, roads, etc with the contingent of “he would have done so many great things but God had other plans”

        • Silver Badger

          If that were to take place, all we can say Amen.

      • boatboy_srq

        No. No martyrdom. No “accidents”, no strokes, no coronaries, no convenient falls. Investigation and prosecution. It’s the only way to kill the beast once and for all.

      • jerry

        It was Jared, in the Green Room, with the candlestick.

        • Robincho

          I distinctly saw Professor Plum furtively leaving the conservatory while clutching a lead pipe…

      • Robincho

        An event that SHOULD have happened when he was poised atop Stair Farce One. At least it would have prevented him from calling
        all Mexicans rapists…

    • Tomcat

      Vetoes to republican bills.

    • JCF

      Thanks for Pat!

  • geoffalnutt

    He just lost me. We have a rabid dog running around with a nuclear bomb in his mouth. Its detonation is “too late”.

  • Dagoril

    Schiff is one of the good guys. He’s not saying Drumpf *shouldn’t* be removed. He’s saying the Republican votes aren’t there yet. If you live in an area with gop representatives, contact them. Keep up the pressure on them. Most of the GOP reps will flip to impeach when they see it as a safe thing to do.

    • Joe Maynard

      You are right. If an attempt to remove Trump from office by whatever means – 25th Am’t, impeachment, palace coup – were to fail, the result would be to cement him in office.

      We will get at most one shot at this. Best to make sure it is a foregone conclusion.

      The thing that keeps me awake at night is the fear that a real international crisis will arise. Maybe it will be military, maybe financial, maybe something else. Every time Trump demonstrates his weakness and incompetence he increases the likelihood of a crisis, while offering yet more proof that he is incapable of handling it. If/when the crisis happens, the consensus to remove him will finally be there… too late to matter. You might hope that people would have enough forethought to figure that out, and act to remove Trump before the crisis hits. Yet, from supply-side economics to climate change, the Republican tendency is to look for any mitigating factor and, without cause or reason, amplify it into a complete compensation for the problem of the day, but only if we change nothing.

      We’re all gonna die.

  • Sam_Handwich

    In both Michigan and Wisconsin, 64 percent of voters surveyed say
    they’ve been embarrassed by Trump, and 63 percent of voters in
    Pennsylvania said the same.

    https://twitter.com/thehill/status/899284406359261185

    • SoCalGal20

      Yeah, and how many of those voters still approve of the job he’s doing and would vote for him tomorrow if they could?

    • That_Looks_Delicious

      Trump did not win a majority in any of those three states; he just got very slightly more than Clinton. He won Wisconsin with 47.2% (compared to Clinton’s 46.4%), Michigan with 47.5 % (compared to Clinton’s 47.3%) and Pennsylvania with 48.2% (compared to Clinton’s 47.5%). In all three of those states, if even 1/5 of the 3rd party/other voters had voted for Clinton, Trump would have lost.

    • Chucktech

      “But Hillary didn’t go there and kiss our ass during the campaign so we voted for Trump.”

      • FAEN

        And her emails 🙄.

    • FAEN

      That doesn’t mean they won’t for him though.

    • Renfield

      we’re embarrassed. That they even exist. How are we worthy of respect in the world when 40% of the electorate are dumber than turds?

  • SDG

    So you want to wait until AFTER he nukes N. Korea?

    • Treant

      Well…maybe we should see how bad the fallout is in California first…

      • -M-

        /s

  • Tomcat

    Democrats just don’t want to see Pence as president. Maybe they have a point there.

  • jimbo65

    Boy, they’re really trying to play it safe. Kinda like saying, “It’s too soon to talk about gun restrictions ” after a maniac has mowed down school kids. If not now , then when?!??

    • That_Looks_Delicious

      I think he’s really saying that the Dem leadership wants to ride this out to the 2018 election at least (if not until 2020) to see if Trump ends up giving them control of the House and maybe the Senate and some state governments again.

      • jimbo65

        Yeah, I get it. It’s just exhausting having to live through all this. There definitely needs to be a huge change come 2018.

      • Chucktech

        God, I hope I’m wrong but I just don’t see 2018 as anything more than Democrats not losing ground. We’re talking the American electorate here.

  • abqdan

    Efforts started by Democrats in Congress are doomed. Without cross party support, there is no way for them to pass anything. It might be a statement of no-confidence, but doesn’t otherwise do much. In any case, I suspect Trump’s mental problems are not related to failing mental ability, but rather personality disorders – so even if they forced a psych evaluation, he’d probably pass – where pass = functional. The Republicans won’t impeach, and the cabinet will not exercise the 25th amendment powers, so we should probably forget about that for now. And it doesn’t seem likely that he’ll resign; because he thinks everything that goes wrong is somone else’s fault. And being stuck with a blustering, blundering, and ineffectual Trump until 2020 may turn out better than having Pence in power for the next three years.

    • Chucktech

      …unless, of course, something blows up overseas or some other incident that requires any semblance of presidential leadership or acumen on our part. That’s hardly out of the question.

  • JWC

    It will be one of 4 options but it is coming

    • Todd20036

      Is one of the options a burlesque show?

      • JWC

        oh fuck scarreeee Impeach quitr Mental or Pop goes the weasel

  • coram nobis

    Rep. Schiff needs to reconsider the 25th Amendment’s wording, “… unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office.” Manifest incompetence, or, as this week’s Economist lead editorial puts it, “politically inept, morally barren and temperamentally unfit for office.” Today’s NYT lead op-ed has much the same accusation.

    Time to stop waiting for Donald to show up in public dressed as Bonaparte, or drooling on himself. Inability is the criterion for the 25th.

    One measure of the despair caused by Mr. Trump’s behavior is that we find ourselves strangely comforted by things that in any normal presidency would be cause for concern. One of these is the sheer incompetence that this president has displayed.
    — NYT

    • Natty Enquirer

      Where is the bright line? Removing a President from office, even temporarily, is a grave action. Is the 25th meant to subject the officeholder to a popularity contest? I am playing devil’s advocate here.

      • coram nobis

        Understood, about the devil’s advocate, and the incapacity criterion should be understood as “totally incapable”, otherwise it’d be a subjective (and maybe frivolous) excuse to remove an unpopular president, in the sense that Bill Clinton’s impeachment was on a fairly frivolous basis.

        Also, it’s worth remembering that the 25th Amendment doesn’t remove a living president entirely, but sets up the VP as an acting president. The original president would still be present, sort of like a crazy aunt locked in the attic. That may not be a pleasant scenario for the next 3 years or so.

  • netxtown

    Is “premature” before or after donnie decides to “outsmart” Kimmie and hit the big red button? Would it be “premature” to invoke the 25th after he dismantles the constitution?

    Dumbass.

  • KnownDonorDad

    Good cop, bad cop.

  • Maybe after Trump launches a nuclear war?

  • Joseph Miceli

    See, THIS is why we can’t get things done! Okay “Mr. I got beaten up a lot in High School!” Thanks for going off message. If this is how Nancy Pelosi keeps party discipline and her people on message then its time for her to go.

  • thatotherjean

    Why? Why is it premature to consider that the President is mentally unfit to hold office? What does he have to do to prove it? He has already bragged about sexual assaults, accused Mexicans of being rapists, broken innumerable campaign promises (most of them terrible, but he shouldn’t have made them in the first place), made it clear that he’s cozying up to the Russians, defamed Hillary Clinton–which he continues to do, months after the election is over), fired the FBI Director for not declaring loyalty to him personally, drawn a “red line” by his finances and attempted to prohibit Robert Mueller from investigating them, threatened North Korea, and made statements in support of the alt-right and Nazi demonstrators in Charlottesville.

    He rants uncontrollably about things he doesn’t like, insists that respectable newspapers are reporting “fake news,” sends bizarre Twitter messages to the world at 5 am, wanders off at a signing ceremony without actually signing anything, shoves other world leaders out of the way to get to the front of a photo, and demands a ride in Queen Elizabeth’s gold coach on an upcoming–but postponed–State visit. What else, exactly, does the man who is President of the United States have to do before you and your colleagues and the Vice President decide that this is abnormal enough to invoke the 25th Amendment, let the Vice President take over the office, require him to see a psychiatrist, and to accept the results of his examination? You, and others, admit that Donald Trump is abnormal, but refuse to consider doing anything about it. Why not?

    • Galvestonian

      They’re all praying for the Tax Cuts – after that he’s in the toilet.

      • thatotherjean

        That sounds about right. The country in the meantime? Pfffffft.

  • Ann Kah

    I disagree. I think it’s a quarter past get-the-net time.

    • Jukesgrrl

      Given his position on the House Intelligence Committee, Rep. Schiff “knows stuff.” Stuff we’ll never know. From Mueller, for the IC, from the Senate. I trust him to use that information wisely. When he says it’s time, it will be time.

  • Queequeg

    We are not at a point of talking about the 25th Amendment because Mike Pence, who would have to initiate it, has no balls. There is certainly more than sufficient evidence that Trump is mentally ill.

  • JT

    Adam Schiff: It’s Premature To Talk About Removing Trump For Being Mentally Incapacitated

    Yeah, give it another couple of weeks.

  • Galvestonian

    You keep using that word. I do not think that it means what you think it means.

  • Jay Silversmith

    I don’t understand why Schiff has been soft-peddling Hair Furor lately, unless he’s itchin’ to take him down financially. The mental diagnosis is already in:
    http://crooksandliars.com/2017/08/5-traits-define-trump-and-guarantee-he

  • Jukesgrrl

    “People are saying …” It’s about time someone used Trump’s favorite cliche on him.

  • Rick Zajac

    It’s not premature…it’s overdue.