Trump Fan KKK Leader Tells Univision: We Killed Six Million Jews, 11 Million Immigrants Is Nothing [VIDEO]

Univision reports:

“We killed 6 million Jews, 11 million (undocumented immigrants) is nothing,” a KKK leader tells Univision News. Those were the words of Christopher Barker, a leader of the Ku Klux Klan’s ‘Loyal White Knights’ during an interview with Univision’s late night news anchor, Ilia Calderon, for the show Aquí y Ahora. Why do white supremacists hate (white) Jews so much? Baffled? So were we. Here’s what we found out.

Throughout the day Saturday, marchers displayed swastikas on shirts, flags and posters, as well as quotes from Adolf Hitler. They yelled “Heil Hitler!” and “Heil Trump!” And they stood outside a local Jewish temple with guns.

As a result, some have wondered why white supremacists – a group associated with xenophobia and racism against people of color – would show such a strong outpouring of anti-Semitism. After all, aren’t many Jews in the United States white? (According to Pew, 94 percent of Jews identify as such.)

Not according to neo-Nazis, who believe American Jews are a non-white race that is ruining the country. Longtime civil rights strategist Eric Ward says anti-Jewish sentiment is at the core of everything the Charlottesville rally goers stand for. The white nationalist worldview, he says, suggests whites are a minority under assault, and that Jews are seeking to take away their rights.

From a June report on a Charlottesville blog:

The head of the Loyal White Knights of the KKK could decide to stay home from the rally he called in Charlottesville July 8 because his bond for a pending stabbing charge prohibits him from leaving North Carolina.

Christopher Barker was arrested in December on the eve of a parade to celebrate the election of Donald Trump after a fellow klansman was stabbed in his Yanceyville, North Carolina, home. Barker was charged with aiding and abetting assault with a deadly weapon with intent to kill, inflicting serious injury, a charge that carries up to 19 years.

  • Lazycrockett

    He seems nice.

    • JWC

      Ya Trump would to total Asshole

    • How does Trump regard his convert Jewish daughter, Ivanka and her hubby Kushner

  • AJ Drew

    He seems nice. /s

    OT: Co-author of “Art of the Deal” predicts DT will resign soon. (hmm…)

    http://www.latimes.com/politics/washington/la-na-essential-washington-updates-art-of-the-deal-writer-predicts-trump-1502993624-htmlstory.html

    • I don’t see that happening, but he knows him better than I do (which is not at all) so here’s hoping. Of course that means Mike Pence would be president. Ugh. What a shit show.

    • Carl

      That’s not how this is going to go. The 2020 Republican National Convention will have swastikas on the podium.

    • bkmn

      We can only hope he is right but I do not look forward to Pence being sworn in. Faster Mueller, faster dammit!

      • Robincho

        Recently at the airport in Portland, Maine, I sat next an extraordinary black gentleman — witty, urbane, multi-lingual and yet oddly taciturn.
        He is employed by an espionage agency of the government of the United States. He detests tRump, as do the vast majority of his colleagues. Interestingly, he says that Mr. Mueller is proceeding with all due speed. Once any possibility of a potential misstep has been ruled out, the Mueller Shitstorm will descend. And when it descends, the survivors (if any) will wish that they had never been born…

        Once I stopped obsessing on how fucking hot this guy was, I was left with a curious sense of relief based on what he told me…

        • bkmn

          I hope with my last breath you are right.

        • Beagle

          Having been involved in a few investigations as a fed employee, I can say that the federal government usually does not investigate quickly. Investigations are thorough. And if that takes time, so be it. (Disclaimer: I have no involvement with the Mueller investigation. If I did, I wouldn’t be saying this or anything else on the subject.)
          I doubt Mueller and his team will finish their investigation before the New Year. But their findings, whatever they be, will be unassailable by honest means.

    • teedofftaxpayer

      Hoping and wishing though doesn’t make it true. 🙁

      • Snarkaholic

        Not only is that Burt Bacharach’s worst song…it’s also an outright lie!!!

    • Del Sam

      No. No resignation. Impeachment. Without the lifetime check former presidents get. And preferably with jail time (but very unlikely).

      • MonochromeMouse

        If he resigns then he gets to keep the president’s retirement plan and the taxpayers are on the hook for lifetime secret service protection for him, melanoma, his kids, and his kids’ kids. Impeachment is the only option.

        • bzrd

          for the Nazi and his wife and any children under 16 unless the nazi has changed that

        • bkmn

          Secret Service coverage is only for the first 10 years. The GOP made sure to shorten it when Obama won.

          • bzrd

            President Obama changed that to lifetime protection Jan. 2013

          • bkmn

            Good to know, thanks bzrd!

        • BJORN RAGNVALDR

          Not if he’s in prison.

          • Galvestonian

            How long do you think he’ll last in prison ??? No matter how ‘country club’ it will be ?

      • Robincho

        Drumpf would by no means be the first impeached president. I want him to be the first president impeached AND convicted…

    • thatotherjean

      Dear God, I hope he’s right. Enough, already. If Trump goes back to NY, the investigation into his money-laundering there should get him jail time, eventually.

    • clay

      And Sater was more specific– mid- to late-September.

      • AJ Drew

        Sater is a wildcard, though. He seems to be oddly enjoying the attention even though it’s all negative. “Yup, I’m going to jail [probably with DT,] but whoo just wait, I’ll be the most colorful personality you’ll ever write about.”

        • clay

          But he also has practice flipping state’s witness, twice.

    • boatboy_srq

      Trouble with that scenario is that too many will breathe a sigh of relief that Lord Dampnut is gone and forget that leaves Lucius Pence in charge. The work isn’t done when tRump is ousted: in fact, it’s just beginning.

      • bzrd

        penny is in dump’s deep doodoo, he’s going down too

        • boatboy_srq

          Only if Mueller prefers charges. If tRump resigns half the country will take that as pressing the reset button and give Pence a pass.

        • FAEN

          I hope so but I don’t see how.

      • AJ Drew

        You’re right of course, but we at least know Pence’s game plan and he’s not unstable. A Pence POTUS would be awful, but we’d know what to expect and could plan accordingly. DT as POTUS is like trying to prepare for a hurricane, blizzard, and sharknado all at the same time.

  • bkmn

    Can we look forward to a Chris Barker sobbing video after he gets a visit from the FBI and is afraid they are going to lock him up, like we got from Chris Cantwell yesterday?

  • Carl

    “we?”

    Well, Nuremberg already sentenced this guy to death so at least that’s out of the way.

  • Ninja0980

    Seems like a nice guy other then his genocidal impulses.

    • another_steve

      When you go out on a date on Saturday night, you can’t be too picky.

      “He speaks in complete sentences. He doesn’t drool. Seems to have a minimal number of hairs protruding from his nostrils. He does speak about wanting to kill Jews, though.

      What to do. What to do.”

      • UrsusArctos

        That’s why Dog gave us ball gags.

  • Renfield

    Darn, that pending stabbing charge. If it weren’t for that, those Jews would find out who’s boss and fast.

  • Adam Stevens

    It is really sickening, what a man will allow himself to become.

    • Carl

      It just looks exhausting carrying that much hate around all day.

  • GanymedeRenard

    Charming, isn’t he?

  • hoover2001

    I bet he’s still pro-Israel. Cognitive dissonance and all that.

    • Todd20036

      Please tell me that’s snark.

      • hoover2001

        Yes, it is.

    • Stephen Elliot Phillips

      I want to know how bibi and gang can actually say the trump administration is an ally. At this juncture israel taking money from us is like taking it from hitler. Be very careful what you wish for

      • hoover2001

        Bibi believes Trump is his ally no matter how much of a white supremacist that fucker is. Bibi’s son even claimed leftist are a bigger danger than neo-Nazis because Nazis are irrelevant. He even used terms like antifa and alt-left like he’s been reading Brietbart.

      • clay

        They can say he’s an ally because they don’t live in the US.

      • zhera

        Without the money from USA, Israel is FUBAR. They’ll call USA an ally as long as the money’s flowing in, no matter what’s going on over there.

  • MikeBx2
    • Ross

      All brilliant. TIME though took me a moment.

      • BearEyes

        it was the short vulgarian fingers

      • Ken M

        Enlarging helped

        • bkmn

          It also needed a stream of yellow on the Statue of Liberty.

      • ETownCanuck

        The New Yorker piece is titled “Blowhard”. It’s brilliant! The New Yorker is completely out of fucks apparently 🙂

      • Lizard

        What is it? I’m not seeing it.

    • Ken M

      Back to a massive resale of “real” magazines.

    • Jefe5084

      Do we know if any of these fine covers will be displayed at Trump Hotels and Golf Resorts? /s

      • kareemachan

        We could send postcards….

      • Reality.Bites

        Sure must be tough to buy a newspaper or newsmagazine in the hotel shop!

        • bzrd

          the Resident Nazi can’t read unless there are bigly letters,
          sad

          • FAEN

            And pictures.

        • Robincho

          We’re good until the editors of Popular Mechanics and Field & Stream get “hip” to this anti-Drumpf “trend”… Once that happens, we’re fucked. Or, we could STOP STAYING AT TRUMP HOTELS…

      • liondon#iamnotatraitor

        Only on the sheets

      • Mb

        No because these are all real.

        • Jefe5084

          oh yeah. My bad.

    • zhera

      So many magazine covers for Donnie to hang up in his golf clubs!

    • Phil2u

      Are these all legit?

      • Dazzer

        yup

    • Gerry Fisher

      In addition to our comedians, our political cartoonists deserve a reward for their part in the resistance.

  • grada3784

    First there was “King Kong”. Then “Son of Kong”.

    And NOW>>>>>>

    Donald Trump now starring in “Son of Klan”.

    • GanymedeRenard

      And an evil baboon – apologies to all primates, including King Kong.

    • jerry

      “Birther of A Nation”

    • IamSmartypants

      Goniff with the Wind.

      • Christopher

        Or “Gone with the Covfefe”. 😉

  • another_steve

    Donald Trump:

    “Look, I don’t know the man. I haven’t read the transcript. Maybe the fake news misinterpreted him. Maybe he has a wife and two kids and can’t pay for their health insurance – which is why we have to repeal Obamacare.”

  • Talisman

    Here’s an idea: kill yourself and make the world a better place.

    • Chicago joe

      And just in case there is an 11th hour chicken shit moment, perhaps we could help

      • BearEyes

        maybe that girlfriend in MA who goaded her BF into killing himself could become his new GF

        • Air_Cav

          Good idea, she could do it to get her sentence suspended

  • Bryan

    Ugh, what is the purpose of this kind of tv interview.

  • bkmn

    O/T – just got an email from Campbells since I contacted them about their CEO being on Trump’s advisory panel which basically said she disagrees entirely with everything Trump said and she is quitting the panel. Appreciated but I had to fight the impulse to email them back asking how much she would be donating to Trump’s reelection fund.

    * most of her political contributions have been to the Campbell’s PAC but she did donate $2700 to Chris Christie last year.

    • netxtown

      donnie is holding a fundraiser here in Dallas next month. Admission??? “Tickets” are $2700 – $100,000.

      • UrsusArctos

        ONLY good thing in that is any $$ he vacuums up won’t go to supporting other GOPers in real races. That money might as well be flushed away by the donors.

        • netxtown

          at least some silver lining to his fat ass coming to town….

        • RoFaWh

          Cash-short deplorables won’t hesitate to sell their daughters’ virtue.

          • UrsusArctos

            If “Daddy” hasn’t already dented it.

      • bkmn

        He has to build that ‘re-election’ fund up so he can use it to fund his kids after he is done wrecking the Trump™ brand. I can’t see him running in 2020, let alone making it through four years so then he can pretty much use the millions as a PAC that will support his family.

  • Cackalaquiano

    But the violence on both sides y’all /s

    • bkmn

      We really need to start pushing back hard and publicly any time a journalist does that both sides crap. That has to end NOW

      • Tomcat

        MSNBC is pushing very hard today that it was NOT both sides.

        • JerryRich

          It was Ari Melber’s turn to shoot down a Deplorable a few minutes ago.

        • bkmn

          Good, the left has not done anything that even remotely compares to what people on the right are doing and we need to root out this ‘need’ to spin the concept that both sides do it.

        • BudClark

          It won’t do much good until we can get the Fairness Doctrine reinstated (at the very LEAST), if not find a legal way to shut down Fux News, Daily Stormershitte, WND, Breitfart, Rancid Repubics, etc., as traitorous and subversive, and that’s going to be hard to do, give the broad sweep of our First Amendment. But that’ll never be revised, absent a TRUE left-wing Revolution and an HONEST revision of the Constitution (i.e. remove the 2nd Amendment and the Electoral College, for starters) by a Second Constitutional Convention … but those are TRULY treacherous waters into which to wade.

          This whole shit-storm is making me physically ill … I hate to get out of bed in the morning, I hate to turn on the computer, I don’t feel like eating, etc. …

    • Joe in PA

      Some stupid state senator from Missouri posted something like “I hope he [Trump] gets assassinated” on Facebook and then deleted it. You should see the comments on Mediaite. Good lord, you would think every progressive was killing people in the streets. But again, how fucking stupid for a Democrat (or anyone) posting something like that?

      • AJ Drew

        Yup, that was dumb. Even the Anne Frank Center is calling for her to immediately resign.

    • Todd20036

      Only in S/M scenes.

  • netxtown

    Ain’t no amount of lipstick gonna clean up that pig….

  • ByronK

    Never in my wildest dreams did I ever think I’d be witnessing such vile and horrific events in 2017,

    • GanymedeRenard

      Not the only one, I fret.

      • FAEN

        I believe we’re all walking around with a sense of dread.

        BTW-Not that this will make you feel better but using a nuke is pretty much up to POTUS. He uses a code and it’s done. No discussion. I was listening to this on NPR. After that was over I poured myself a pitcher of margaritas and ate my weight in chips and salsa.

        • GanymedeRenard

          Honey, you’re describing my latest 3 hours! :'((

          • FAEN

            I’m sorry matey. *Hugs*.

          • GanymedeRenard

            Hugs accepted, and reciprocated!

          • FAEN

            Thanks matey. I can use all the hugs I can get these days.

          • GanymedeRenard

            More and more of those to you!

          • FAEN

            And to you.

          • FAEN

            BTW-why do you call yourself a useless linguist?

          • GanymedeRenard

            Because that’s what I am, sadly.

          • FAEN

            Can there be a useless linguist?

          • GanymedeRenard

            Why, yes. The answer is I.

          • FAEN

            Being a tad hard on yourself maybe?

          • GanymedeRenard

            Possibly. IDK.

          • FAEN

            I think you are.

    • boatboy_srq

      I was actually more surprised we didn’t see this in 2001.

      • Tawreos

        They didn’t have a black president to scare the shit out of them back then.

        • romanhans

          I know the pendulum of politics swings back and forth but this is ridiculous: from a handsome, smart, cool black man to….

    • Todd20036

      I’m surprised that the GOP has openly admitted they are the Nazi party.

      I knew for a while they were, but only in winks and nods and code words.

      It’s no longer Godwin or Poe to make the comparison

    • FAEN

      Yep-most of us didn’t. I have to fight the urge to stress eat. After watching SNL Weekend Round Up tonight all I want is cake. Lots of cake!

    • CJAS
  • GanymedeRenard

    No, no, no, no… You have got to watch the snippet to understand the level of insanity and HATRED that inhabits this miserable piece of pig shit. All I will say is, second 0:22. I. Just. Can’t.

    • AJ Drew

      for me it was around 0:50 when he calls the reporter a N* and how he plans to burn her, and his wife (?) tells him to watch his mouth, yet is laughing. Ugh.

      • GanymedeRenard

        Yes, this is beyond INSANE!

  • MikeBx2
    • clay

      Charlottesville’s biggest problem: “a chaotic scene”
      Barcelona’s biggest problem: not enough military oppression of a religious group

      Trump’s a fucking asshole.

      • Todd20036

        Fucking assholes are the best kind.

        Trump is a shitty asshole.

        • Grumpy Old Man

          Hmmm, isn’t there a name for shitty assholes – begins with an ‘S’ right?

          • bzrd

            Stinky

          • edrex

            republican.

          • glass

            I think those are pus infected assholes.

          • Dramphooey

            Sharondhaskins.

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    • greenmanTN
  • 2amor

    He seems like a nice guy…../s

  • fastlanestranger

    “Charmed, I’m sure!”

  • Publius

    Shux, with beliefs like that he’s making President Trump blush. I wonder if he’ll receive his job offer today or tomorrow.

  • LovesIrony

    19 years is a long time to avoid getting shanked

  • shellback

    Hmmm. Over-weight, droopy ears, sagging eyes. The “Master Race” is anything but.

    • Tor

      Every culture has different standards of beauty. That must be theirs.

  • Blake J Butler
    • pch1013

      I’ve asked Recon to do something about all the crypto- and not-so-crypto Nazis on there.

  • Adam King

    So what is a subhuman who makes public terroristic threats doing out of prison?

  • FloBear

    One of my suite-mates in college routinely referred to “Jews and other non-whites”. It’s how he was raised in a New England whaling city. The “other non-whites”, in his upbringing, included people of Portuguese descent (“portagees”), who to me are white. Bizarre.

    • scream4ever

      I used to think Asians were white until I was in high school because of how assimilated they were in my community.

    • David Wickham

      it has to do with religion too. The Portuguese are Catholic. No good white person could be Catholic-the Irish for example.

  • Tomcat

    Such a sweet guy right trump.

  • Wynter Marie Starr

    Sick, crazy, mentally ill, evil, racist pig. One day the shoe will be on the other foot and he will realize the horror he has inflicted on innocents. Except he won’t be an innocent and will get exactly what he deserves. He and his ilk sicken me.

  • Stephen Elliot Phillips

    Asshat has no concept of what those 11 million “illegals” bring to our economic table thru doing jobs nobody else will and contributing to sales tax and their spending on goods and services.

    • Snarkaholic

      Damn it, Stephen, how DARE you drag FACTS into this discussion?!?!?

    • bambinoitaliano

      They subscribed to the philosophy of what’s mine is mine and what’s yours is also mine.

      • Leo Tallant

        That is also my husbear’s philosophy concerning me…….. 🙂

    • clay

      any of them using stolen SS numbers means they’re also paying income and SS tax, but still unable to collect benefits.

      • Menergy

        +100!

  • JerryRich

    To the extent that we believe in miracles, it is one that there was no gunfire at the weekend Bund rally. I don’t know how long that will prevail.

  • Vinnie NYC

    Dtrump brings out the best in people doesn’t he.

    • coram nobis

      Somebody kicks over a wasps’ nest, the whole neighborhood gets stung. That’s how it works.

  • Tomcat
  • Stogiebear

    Lately, everytime I go to refresh the page for a new post I wonder, “What fresh hell is next?” and then find some shithead Nazi minimizing the slaughter of 6 million Jews at the prospect of having 11 million other “others” to wage genocide against. God bless American, indeed.

    This Cracker is another one who needs to find himself unemployed and unemployable. If he’s left alive and unemployable is someone else’s concern.

    • another_steve

      JMG today is “Nightmare on Elm Street.”

      Bless Blogmeister Joe, but boy sometimes gets heavy into the dark and morbid.

      • canoebum

        In the Wilhelm/Jung translation of the I Ching you’ll find the following words: “You can never lose what is truly yours, even if you throw it away”. I think that applies to our democratic republic and its principles. Even after this epic screw up by the voting public, in the passage of time, we’ll regain our footing and put this behind us.

        • another_steve

          Beautiful. I completely agree.

          I’m a Philosophical Daoist by nature and philosophy and believe strongly that the direction of things is toward beneficence. You can’t observe the movement, just as you can’t observe a plant growing as you sit before it.

          But still, it happens.

          • BudClark

            Steve, I send you a HUGE hug from the CA desert … I really needed to hear that today … your comments are JoeMyGod at its best (and there SELDOM *is* a “worst!”).

          • Galvestonian

            Watch a night blooming cereus blooming – you WILL see a lot of movement – and the scent is fantastic.

          • another_steve

            So coincidental that you mention that, Galvestonian. We happen to have one in our living room. Sadly, it hasn’t bloomed in years. The foliage is healthy but it no longer blooms. I need to do some internet research and see what can be done to get it flowering again.

            As you know, it’s a one-night event and the scent is unbelievable. Impossible to describe to someone who hasn’t personally experienced it.

          • Galvestonian

            Steve – don’t know where you live but when I was a kid in Philly, my Mom had a night blooming cereus that she kept in our very small lean-to green house during the winter months and then in the summer she would put it outside next to our shaded front porch where it would get filtered light and rain. It always bloomed during the summer and she would invite the neighbors over for the event and would serve snacks and drinks until the flower fully opened. They generally start around twilight and then take a bit of time to fully open but it was a remarkable sight as well as very fragrant. Here in Galveston my Night Blooming Cereus has at least 50 blooms per summer -all I have to do is water it and it just blooms like crazy as well as GROW ’cause it gets a bit big. I’m thinking it must be the heat and the humidity.

          • another_steve

            Fifty blooms! Wow! Envy. Been so long since ours bloomed here (we’re in Central Maryland) that I’m not sure I remember, but I think we’ve always had only one flower per season. You must have the touch, Galvestonian.

            I’m thinking my first step should be to repot the thing in a bigger pot and get some fresh soil in there. It’s been in the same pot for probably 30 years now and must be badly root-bound.

          • Galvestonian

            Feed it too — I ignore the poor thing and it just throws out more blooms. I moved down here from Philly about 10 years ago – cheap real estate and we’re semi-tropical plus beaches right on the Gulf. This is what I have on my property : Oranges (Navel and blood orange ), 1 sweet lemon tree – they get to be the size of an orange, a Chinese peach, two kinds of figs ( the yellow and the brown ) a loquat tree which fruits in early February, 7 banana plants – mainly Cavendish – these are the store bananas – a vanilla tasting variety, a pineapple tasting variety, a praying hands type of banana and a monkey fingers type which is an extra sweet minature type ), a dragon fruit plant , bougainvillea ( a deep red and a yellow ), a red honeysuckle plant currently taking over part of my back yard, 3 coconut palms, 4 feather palms all over 15 feet high, a grove of pygmy date palms ( 4 all together ) and well over 12 feet high, a huge planting of white Bird of Paradise – these equal the palms in height, a planting of the regular Bird of Paradise that is currently blooming – at least 8 blooms, the night blooming cereus and about a five foot section of night blooming Jasmine. Two huge jardinieres of Butterfly Amaryllis ( 12 in each pot ) by the front door with 4 other jardinieres of foxtail ferns – fully 3 feet across on both sides of the driveway. In front of the house are mature evergreen oaks which stay green all year around as they do not drop their leaves and supply really great shade. My house is less than 250 feet from the water and faces due West so I get the sunsets which are absolutely MIND BLOWING.

          • another_steve

            Sounds wonderful. Like a botanical garden. You’re a lucky guy.

            We’re on a five-acre property – four acres of which are wooded. The acre surrounding the house contains a lot of landscaping: hemlocks, tulip poplars (an amazing tree), red maples, laurels, boxwoods, forsythia, azaleas and several types of ground covers. The soil here is acidic; there’s pachysandra growing everywhere.

            Oh, and Lenten Roses. We’re particularly fond of them.

            The acre is heavily shaded so that limits the flowers we can grow. Impatiens work well though.

            We once tried traditional roses. Total failure.

          • Galvestonian

            Roses must have a bed in full sun and gotta have alkaline soil. To get the soil less acidic add ground agricultural limestone, the finer the particles the more rapidly it’ll change the soil. The amount you use varies with what you’re starting with as regards to the soil. Soil higher in clay will typically require more of the lime additive than those lower in clay. To lower the pH level, aluminum sulfate is the best thing to use. Make sure you check the pH at least a couple of times before adding too much aluminum sulfate – I used to buy a cheap pH test kit at a store that sells aquariums. You want a soil pH below 7.0 – not too far below that — but below it. Anything added to the soil will have some effect on the overall soil pH … so keep an eye on the pH level. If the rose bushes start to change in their performance or even have an overall change in natural foliage coloration or natural shine, it could very well be an out of balance soil pH problem. In addition look at the beneficial micro-organisms in the soil. Healthy micro-organisms will crowd out pathogens (the disease making bad guys…) in the soil by competitive exclusion. Do this be adding organic stuff Some good organic material to use for soil is Alfalfa meal (as it is a good source of nitrogen and is balanced with phosphorus and potassium), plus it contains something called Triacontanol, a growth regulator and stimulant. Kelp Meal is good too – as it is a slow release source of Potassium with over 70 chelated trace minerals, vitamins, amino acids, and growth promoting hormones. Oh yeah, Compost is great also as it increases a lot of microorganisms and improves the overall quality of the soils. These, along with some peat moss , are all fantastic soil building amendments. I know that’s it a lot of stuff to keep track of and do but if you’re wanting great roses this is the way to get what you want. Keep the soil moist but not too wet as roses don’t like soggy roots. Think of moist cake.

          • Galvestonian

            Another thing about the roses – THE BUGS – as soon as you see anything chewing on them – Japanese Beedles, for instance, you have to spray — use anything that contains Bacillus thuringiensis, this is a naturally occurring microorganism that completely stops any chewing insects on anything that you spray it on and is completely harmless to humans – what I’m saying is go ahead and use it on your veggies and you can eat them immediately … no problems.

          • another_steve

            Many thanks for all the good info and advice, Galvestonian. I keep a file of plant and flower-related articles and such. I’ve printed out your comments and added them to the file.

            Much appreciated. 😉

        • BudClark

          I read that as “ape-like screwup” … hmmm … my subconscious is more accurate than my consciousness, mayhap?

    • bambinoitaliano

      We could turn around and ask him how many Klans men are they that the rest of US can take them out?

    • canoebum

      He needs to find himself in prison for the next 30 years, is what he needs…

    • Ragnar Lothbrok

      Just wait til tomorrow !

      • clay

        I thought Thursday was the new Friday.

  • barrixines

    In a hell of his own making. And he stabbed another klansman – so he’s not a completely useless piece of shit. A piece of shit yes but credit where credit is due.

    • greenmanTN

      a hell of his own making.

  • Tomcat

    We have to come together for mankind to survive.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9BNoNFKCBI

  • Leo
    • kareemachan

      Bueno.

  • Cuberly
    • bzrd

      we need the picture of ISIS and Vanilla ISIS

  • zhera

    Nazis stabbing nazis? What has the world come to!

    Anyway. Another asshole acts tough on TV. Give it a few days and he’ll cry. For being arrested, or fired, or denied at the local whore house.

    • clay

      I wonder if the knife was long?

    • grada3784

      To the sound of hummingbirds.

      • AJ Drew

        that took me a minute; nice!

  • safari
    • clay

      It can be argued that Lee was the only honorable Rebel commander, but that only makes sense if you also object to the motives and actions of the rest of the Confederacy.

    • UrsusArctos

      o.O

    • Lazycrockett
      • Tomcat

        Well trump did ask people to come to his defense. No telling what will slither out from under the baseboards to defend him.

    • zhera

      Calling Rommel glorious and untarnished by the sins of his brothers?

      ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?

      • grada3784

        At least Rommel was somewhat involved in the assassination plot against Hitler/

        • zhera

          He was also involved with plenty of war activity, and he was definitely a nazi.

          • grada3784

            I know. Just pointing out his one untarnished spot, even though it was very late in Nazi history.

    • Tomcat

      I got a wall in my basement for you Geraldo. I think Hoffa is behind it.

    • Edmund Allin

      Wasn’t Rommel forced to commit suicide because he was implicated in a plot to kill Hitler?

      Even so, pretty bizarre.

    • ultragreen

      Regardless of their skills as generals, they both fought for the wrong side, killed a lot of people, and caused a lot of destruction, therefore they are both tarnished.

    • grada3784

      Only if Lee was implicated in an assassination plot against Jefferson Davis and was forced to commit suicide.

    • Cuberly

      Untarnished? Um, at Lee’s funeral he wasn’t buried in a confederate uniform. Soldiers in attendance, that served with him did NOT wear theirs either. There was no confederate flag during the ceremonies.

      He appears to have grasped the notion that monuments and symbols were what was tarnishing via their presence.

      • robindaybird

        Lee did NOT want any statues of him, and the only reason he joined the confederates was because Virginia was his home state.

    • matrem

      “The same thing happened to Geraldo and his career never recovered.”

    • Clive Johnson

      You really have to be incapable of critical thought to say something like that.

  • coram nobis

    What’s the difference between this guy and another of Joe’s collection of loonies, Rev. Kevin Swanson? They’re waving different crosses around but they talk the same kind of mass murder advocacy, or “genocidal fantasy”, NYT calls it.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/16/opinion/campaign-stops/ted-cruz-and-the-anti-gay-pastor.html

  • Ragnar Lothbrok

    Right, and week from now we will find out you are a convicted child molester and stole all your churche’s money or something.

  • clay

    Anti-Semitism, the first modern racism, founded by the Inquisition, but embraced by Catholic-hating Klansmen.

  • Ken M

    Somehow Obama supporting the LGBT doesn’t have the same ring as those claiming the support of Trump.

  • bambinoitaliano
    • clay

      But Trump’s people told the FBI that those don’t exist.

  • bambinoitaliano
    • Tomcat

      You might say they shit in their mess kit.

  • Cuberly

    OT: HOOOOOOley freakin shit! David French of all people is saying this! Amazing.

    https://twitter.com/DavidAFrench/status/898326119903936512

    • Tomcat

      They will surround him and put hands on to ward off love and understanding.

      • Cuberly

        He is on a mission from gawd! Buy buckets!

    • Stogiebear

      They lay hands on him and pray a few more times and he’s going to dump their asses too.

      • clay

        “I told you, don’t touch the hair!”

      • zhera

        Knowing he’s a germophobe gives me great pleasure when I see pictures from those meetings.

        • Octavio

          “One of us! One of Us! We will make you one of us!” The guy without arms and legs crawling under the circus wagon in the rain brandishing a knife in his mouth is an image I just can’t forget.

    • ultragreen

      The CEOs of these advisory councils are pedaling away from the Trump administration as fast as they can.

    • boatboy_srq

      FundiEvangelism is distinguishable from Nazism only in the higher quotient of Gun-toting Capitalist Jeebus.

    • Todd20036

      I’m unfamiliar. Who is David French?

      • Cuberly

        Far right author and pundit. His wife is the notorious Nancy French, Sarah Palin’s former ghost writer for her books and blogs. Nancy French parted ways with Palin after Palin signed on to backing Trump.

        Both French’s have been very vocal anti-trumpers. David has been particularly pointed in his criticism. But he’s ALWAYS been a no questions asked backer of the religious right. Though I believe he and his wife are catholic. For him to refer to Trump’s evangelical backers as throne-sniffers is extraordinary.

  • Ragnar Lothbrok
    • AJ Drew

      lolz… ok, that is the wimpiest beat-in gang initiation ritual ever. But, why is Barney asking if anyone recognizes them? They all state their names!

      • Ragnar Lothbrok

        I was waiting for them to give snuggies

      • canoebum

        Jeez, not one drop of blood. I’ve seen 12 year olds go at it with more conviction.

    • Ragnar Lothbrok

      What happens after a couple of beers ? ” Hey, let’s show each other our awesome white penises !! “

      • Treant

        So…you went to my college.

    • Ken M

      Are you ready to name 5 breakfast cereals? Seriously?

      • Ragnar Lothbrok

        LOL, IKR ! WTFFFF

        • Octavio

          Ritz Cracker crumbs.

    • DoctorDJ
    • BobSF_94117

      I assume Count Chocula isn’t considered a valid response.

  • LovesIrony

    and “we” killed millions of nazis, one more is nothing.

  • edrex

    “We killed 6 million Jews, 11 million (undocumented immigrants) is nothing,” a KKK leader tells Univision News.” let me point out that YOU didn’t do shit, asshat. german nazis did that long before your inbred ass was conceived in an outhouse. just like an uneducated cracker to claim credit for someone else’s crimes against humanity. also those undocumented immigrants are either working or looking for work. what’s your taxable contribution to your family or the US? (cooking/distributing meth doesn’t count) pendejo.

    • clay

      I’d like to buy you a drink!

      • edrex

        what do you think i’m doing right now? jeezuz. this world….

      • edrex

        oh. and “thank you.” i would totally accept.

  • Baylee Peach

    You have got to be shitting me. Did this really happen? Is this fake news?

    • kareemachan

      I was just about to say the same thing in another way:

      Fuck almighty.

  • Lazycrockett
    • clay

      Reminds me of one grave I saw in a small cemetery in rural South Dakota. It was actually just outside of the fence, and covered in cement blocks and winding spirals of barbed wire. When I asked the local, he said it was the grave of the guy who murdered the one-room-school teacher a generation before. They wanted to make sure he was never coming back, again.

      • Reality.Bites

        Clearly the students weren’t consulted. 😉

        • clay

          I know you’re joking, and it’s okay, but that one room schoolhouse meant the kids weren’t sent off to the Anglo boarding school. My dad’s dad was Ponca Creek Clan Lakota.

          • Reality.Bites

            I’m terribly sorry, clay. Of course any murder in such a small community is traumatic, and more so when it’s someone who holds a unique position (teacher, doctor).

            Even growing up in a much larger community (my elementary school had about 800 students, all living in walking distance in single-family or duplex dwellings, such a thing would have been horrifying.

      • Treant

        They used to do that to women they thought were witches, along with adulteresses and members of the LBGT community in some cases.

        Being buried outside the graveyard means you’re not buried on hallowed ground. Mythologically, that would increase the risk that you’d come back as a vampire, zombie, ghoul, or other unpleasant creature.

        Really, in this case, it just draws attention to the guy. If you really want to make sure he “never comes back,” (by which I mean people forget him and that’s that), bury him in the cemetery with everybody else and never bother to speak of him again.

        • Todd20036

          Give him a paupers grave.

          • Snarkaholic

            With a headstone bearing a downward arrow and the words “Crap Here.”

          • kareemachan

            My SO is a surveyor, and at a site they were working at, found a headstone from when the building there was an orphanage. The headstone was brief, a name and date of death, and he took it home, as the site was going to be razed. When we moved from the area, we found a place for the headstone where it wouldn’t be removed, razed, bothered, or pilfered. I hope. When a kid dies at age 6, their headstone should not be made into a tchotchke. Very sad.

    • canoebum

      I am waiting to see what happens to all those statues of Hugo Chavez. I suspect many will end up very much like this one. I don’t believe Maduro has rated a statue yet but if there were any, I wouldn’t bet on them lasting long.

      • Octavio

        I’m sure the current Venezuelan resistance will melt them down into bullets.

        • canoebum

          When Santos leaves the Presidency of Colombia next year, let’s hope Uribe is not reelected. Doubtless he’d funnel arms and explosives into Venezuela at the eventual cost of many lives. Maduro , Cabello and Patrino-Lopez are busy digging their own graves, with ample encouragement from la calle. The opposition MUD is a mess, but international pressure, lack of food, medicine and a future for the youth of the nation will force the kleptocracy out. We can only hope it’s sooner than later. Either way, the statues are going.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVF2oY2a7_g

    • Tomcat

      I am for having statues of all our confederate figures crawling out from under rocks.

    • IAMBOWLINGGREEN
      • Todd20036

        Now THAT should go to a museum

        • Stogiebear

          Perhaps it did — as a bronze railing on a grand staircase.

  • Tomcat

    Most of these statues have something else in common with the confederacy.
    They are all tarnished.

  • Jefe5084

    Great-great grandson of Stonewall Jackson: Confederate statues are meant to "intimidate black people and further white supremacy" #DNlive pic.twitter.com/kTPetgcO3K— Democracy Now! (@democracynow) August 17, 2017

    • Lazycrockett

      Well someone in that family was raised right.

      • Reality.Bites

        At least three. He co-authored a wonderful article with his brother and discussed his abolitionist ancestor.

        While we are not ashamed of our great-great-grandfather, we are ashamed to benefit from white supremacy while our black family and friends suffer. We are ashamed of the monument.

        In fact, instead of lauding Jackson’s violence, we choose to celebrate Stonewall’s sister—our great-great-grandaunt—Laura Jackson Arnold. As an adult Laura became a staunch Unionist and abolitionist. Though she and Stonewall were incredibly close through childhood, she never spoke to Stonewall after his decision to support the Confederacy. We choose to stand on the right side of history with Laura Jackson Arnold.

        Full text is here: http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2017/08/stonewall_jackson_s_grandsons_the_monuments_must_go.html

    • James

      Thank you for posting this,, I watch DemocracyNow.org every day,, it is an amazing news source .. as is JMG 🙂

      • stevenj

        I read Amy Goodman’s book Democracy Now last month. I was especially engrossed in the chapter on whistleblowers and also did not know she’d survived a massacre. Great reading and have seen her show on PBS.

    • kareemachan

      Is it just me, or should he be a character in ‘Game of Thrones’?

      ETA: I mean that in a good way, btw.

      • Jefe5084

        i think he should be generally more visible

  • ultragreen

    It would be interesting to know how many Republicans agree with this man’s murderous sentiments, just to understand how much danger we are actually in.

  • andrew

    Christopher Barker is a mutant and giving him a forum on which to show his face and spew his venom is a big mistake. Reputable news media should report on evils like Barker, but they should never allow him a platform on which to spew his hate. One of the ways that evil triumphs is by giving it public forums that make it look like these evils are just another alternative opinion in our civic discourse.

  • safari
    • Tomcat

      Probably have the driver cornered there.

      • Octavio

        News puppets report the situation as “fluid.” A Spanish National died in a house explosion last night which is suspected to be part of this morning’s van attack. In addition, they have identified four other deaths “120 k south of Barcelona” that may also be linked to today’s attack.” Current total of dead: 14 Number of injured: over 100.

        • GanymedeRenard

          Horrifying!

    • clay

      So the trains didn’t get shut down quick enough?

    • safari
  • Lazycrockett

    Well its Rosalind Russel day on TCM so I must depart for two hours and watch What A Woman. I have never seen this one so I’m interested. If its shit I’ll be back.

    • another_steve

      Girl was never shit. Some of the movies she did were shit, but never girl herself.

  • ultragreen

    This must be one of those “fine and very good people” that Trump was referring to the other day.

    • Jerry Kott

      and he can’t wait to rub elbows with them.

  • TampaDink

    Have Jared and Ivanka insisted that daddy whore bucks invite this asshole to the “summer white house” yet? Based on their chosen beliefs, I am sure that they want to make sure that they support him as much as their “devout” daddy/daddy-in-law does.

    • Snarkaholic

      If he’s a Zyklon B salesman, offering a substantial discount for volume purchases, will Chump be “all ears?”

    • boobert

      Maybe for a barbecue. Just remember the old twilight episode, it’s a cookbook!

  • Octavio

    I gotta say that I’m seriously ill, mentally, having been back in the USA for less than 30 days. The Trump problem is affecting me much worse than the election horror affected me last November. I had some trepidation when El Squeeze convinced me to move with him back to his home country. As it turns out, it was the right decision. There is racism everywhere, especially Argentina. Buenos Aires also has its own history of terror attacks. Palestinians blew up the main synagogue more than 15 years ago. Argentines regard campesinos from Paraguay and indigenous people from the Paraguay/Argentina/Brazil border area as less than human. People from that area (Bolivians and Peruvians, too) are the ones who take the jobs the Argentines refuse. But racism and hate are nothing on a scale as it is here in the USA. In every email I get from El Squeeze and friends in Buenos Aires I am asked if I’m OK and if I’m safe. I’ve got less than 24 hours left before I’m out of this country. I would like to leave in a better mood, but it’s obvious that won’t be possible. Good luck to all of you who live and fight here. I’m too old and too tired to let the Trumptanic and all it is taking down with it to destroy what is left of my life. I wish you all well.

    🙂

    • barrixines

      *tap tap*

      Is this thing on?

      • Hue-Man

        He’s starting a creative writing contest; he supplies the opening sentence fragment and you fill in the rest!

    • Michael R

      … fallen and can’t get up ?

      • Tomcat

        Hope those are not Octavio’s LAST WORDS.

        • JWC

          aswe all await in an awkward pasuse

          • clay

            (just gotta say I love the way you type)

          • JWC

            Big fingers little keys

          • FAEN

            How big?

          • Lumpy Gaga

            “It’s the keyboards that got small.”

          • JWC

            its a bummer

    • zhera

      Wishing you a safe journey back to El Squeeze, and also that you’ll stick around here at Joe’s. ♥

      • Octavio

        Thanks, but I think it is best I swear off the political news sauce for a while. It’s killing me I tells ya!

        Best to you.

        • barrixines

          And all the best to you, Octavio – I was chuffed to see you back but felt that nothing had changed for the better since you were last here. If it hurt then it was going to hurt just as much now.

          You remain a delight.

          • Octavio

            Gracias. Cuando no estoy aquí no puedo quejarme de nada. Así, vuelvo a la dulce vida. It’s called retirement for a reason. 🙂

        • zhera

          I understand. Be well and give El Squeeze a squeeze from me!

    • JWC

      oh wow

    • fuzzybits

      I wish you guys well and know you do for all of us. I’ve taken a day off here and there but have come back. But there are times when it’s too much and I’ve had the same thoughts. Sometimes I think we should let the animals take over,the humans tried and lost. Big hugs.

    • Smokey

      Be good, be safe, dear sir!
      “Hearts will never be practical until they can be made unbreakable.”

    • OdieDenCO

      peace

    • SoCalGal20

      Safe travels! Life is short! Enjoy El Squueze and Buenos Aires and things that make you happy. Hopefully, Trump’s Reign of Terror will be over sooner rather than later.

    • Refugay

      Fare thee well!

    • Stogiebear

      Safe travel home, and get to feeling better in a better country!

    • stevenj

      Good seeing you back here if only briefly.

      trump and his goons have given half of America a long lasting anxiety attack. I have not felt this ill at ease on a daily basis since the draft was hanging over my head when I was in college. Wake up every morning wondering what horror awaits us. Good luck to you and your hub. Give us a shout out once and a while.

    • FAEN

      *Hugs* matey. And to El Squeeze too.

    • Nychta

      It was great to see you here during your return, however brief it’s been. Enjoy life in Argentina! And after this U.S. nightmare subsides, assuming we’re still around, it would be good to see you again.

  • bambinoitaliano
    • Michael R

      None of these on Monument Avenue here in Richmond
      I wonder why that is ?
      ( tons of statues here , maybe more than anywhere else )

    • NZArtist

      Operation “Get behind the darkies”
      I should point out I’m apalled at the idea of using people as human shields, and this is a commentary on the historic approach of treating one segment of humanity as ‘disposable’. Obviously I do *not* support this idea.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQnEBSwdAXw

      • Todd20036

        This was a hilarious scene.

        Everyone in the theater laughed because it was so bitingly racist

    • Todd20036

      But leave off the uniforms!

      • JCF

        Slut!

    • Pat

      The “noble” Lee allowed his troops to torture and murder these soldiers.

    • Chris Baker

      I was just thinking, Colin Kaepernick made a peaceful protest and was condemned by the right. The confederate generals led a bloody, armed revolt against the US government and get statues in town squares.

    • Gerry Fisher

      I think there is one in Boston, right? Dedicated to the unit depicted in the movie, “Glory”

    • Derrick Johns

      Amen, bambinoitaliano.
      My great-grandmother had a gigantic photograph of her companion (his name was Ike) in a battalion of American Black World War 1 soldiers. When my great-grandmother died in 1977, I never knew what became of that big photograph. It breaks my heart ’till today that it may have ended up in the trash.

  • Ken M

    O/T semi amusing FOX top headline Debbie Wasserman Schultz indicted on 4 counts. “Some” Spain, and Trump and the border.

    • Tomcat

      Can’t verify anything about Wasserman Schultz being indited at all.

      • Tomcat

        Her aide, yes but not her?

        • JCF

          Of course.

      • Ken M

        Stand corrected (as usual) Misread the original..was large on front page…left him out in the original headline. Thanks for correcting.

  • Blake Mason
    • JWC

      Interesting!! I didn’t think Donnys makeup would allow him to resign from anything. Fred and (2 gallon sally hairspray) Mary would call that a quitter

    • Tomcat

      Resigning will NOT save his ass.

    • another_steve

      If Trump does in fact resign, I want some fuckin’ credit from JMGers who read my garbage in these comment threads. I’ve been saying for months that I think he’ll resign.

      His brand is being seriously tarnished by the drip drip drip of scandal. He’s a businessman, not a politician. He’s interested in money, not in governing. Mueller is closing in on him. He senses it.

      He’ll declare victory: “I drained the swamp.” He’ll play victim: “The Congress – Democrats and Republicans alike – are spineless and prevented me from accomplishing what I set out to do for you. You need to punish them. You need to take control.” He’ll blame the media, the fake news.

      His base will be more energized than ever. The Republican Establishment will rejoice. Pence is their man. Donald Trump was never their man.

      Wait for it.

      • Pat

        I hope he does and I hope he walks into multiple indictments for money laundering, election tampering and god knows what else, as I’ve lost count. Him and his spawn.

      • UrsusArctos

        Maybe, and the Sinclair folks will be glad to work with him to shear the RWNJ sheeple by giving him his own show.

  • Lazycrockett
    • Michael R

      Tony Schwartz is a pretty smart guy , after ” Art Of The Deal ” he went on a bit of a spiritual search and wrote a book called “What Really Matters ” which meant lot to me at the time ( 1996 ? ) Being around Trump too much forced him to do some soul searching .

  • safari
    • Octavio

      I recommend clicking on the above link about the Jenny Jones murder guy. It’s sickening, but the link opens up on a page of the Detroit Free Press and there is this rather wonderful first person video of riding Steel Vengeance, a roller coaster at Cedar Point. Definitely entertaining to watch. Very entertaining, (but no puppies or kittens).

      • Tomcat

        Glad to see you are still around still. After that unfinished sentence in one of your comments. Thought it might be your last words.

        • Octavio

          Disqus kicked me off for some reason. A sign perhaps?

      • fuzzybits

        Cedar Point is the place where coaster enthusiasts go from all over the world. I grew up near it and can’t believe how much it’s grown.

    • Tomcat

      That was a pretty shitty thing to do to the man.

    • Treant

      What, twenty years for murder? Seems fair, particularly since the other guy was only a fag.

      • Ninja0980

        Not a shock to me.
        Also, with MI’s parole system, they usually parole people that have been good boys/girls on their first try, no matter what they’ve done.
        An acquaintance of mine whose cousin was killed by a drunk driver watched the guy who killed her cousin get out after serving two years of a 2-15 year sentence.
        The criminal justice system is a joke sometimes, it truly is.

  • Tatonka

    Jesus. Just do us all a favor and hang yourself.

  • Scout

    If no one has mentioned it, this is a fun thread.

    https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/898302789964705793

    • Tomcat

      “I don’t even know the man” Putin, who is he?

    • Treant

      Who’s the obnoxious cheaply-bought whore, and the lady the whore is with?

    • Tomcat

      You mean the whore saying ooh your hand is cold?

    • bambinoitaliano
      • Pat

        Do you think he’s storing fish in there?

        • UrsusArctos

          Rubels

    • Refugay

      I thought I was out of WTFs today but this is so fucking twisted and just gross. WTF!

    • bzrd

      thanks

  • boobert

    Ivanka, he’s talking about you, your husband and kids! Make sure you tell daddy about that !

    • Tomcat

      She sort of realized how he felt when he ran around the room with a Menorah on his head like a bull at the wedding festival.

    • Hank

      Your hearing the Sounds of Silence from Jared and Ivanka…. Pathetic!!!

      • clay

        Is he still in the Middle East? I haven’t heard anyone giving him any credit for the Sauds letting Qataris go on the Hadj.

        • Hank

          The couple is reportedly vacationing in Vermont while Trump has made increasingly divisive and inflammatory remarks about the protest and car-ramming that resulted in the death of a counterprotester at the Charlottesville “Unite the Right” rally last weekend.
          http://www.haaretz.com/us-news/.premium-1.807353

  • JCF

    I’m torn:

    On the one hand: genocidal Nazi MANIAC. Lock him up, throw away the key! For the good of humanity!

    On the other: all talk/no action wuss. YOU didn’t do jack re “6 million Jews”, except cheer 70 years later. [Got Viagra? I bet you’re impotent! Or maybe you’re just longing to take it up the ass.]

    Both heinous AND pathetic.

  • fuzzybits

    Please give this trash all the oxycontin he wants.

    • Refugay

      Save some for his better half.

    • Treant

      I’m thinking a heroin/meth combo to even him out.

      • Tomcat

        He doesn’t have enough lead in his system.

      • fuzzybits

        That’ll work too.

      • Ken M

        In January : )

    • barrixines

      And give his sniggering dollop of a wife some shampoo to sort out that greasy hair.

      • Treant

        I make shampoo and..no. No shampoo for her. It’s…uh….$50 a quart. Yeah.

    • Furface

      He thinks he’s a hot shot, perhaps he should try one and achieve room temperature.

  • Refugay

    When does speech become an assault? This piece of shit called Ilia Calderon a N and said we was going to burn her. That is a direct threat of an assault.

  • safari
    • bambinoitaliano
    • Reality.Bites

      Wow. That’s a big way to lose Fox.

      • clay

        Yepper.

        • Reality.Bites

          It’s ironic that Trump’s sole contribution to the United States of America will likely be to destroy the lives and livelihoods of more right-wing assholes than Obama ever dreamed of when he played “If I could do everything they think I can:

    • ian

      He can piss off. Fox Fake-News has been inciting racist violence and domestic terrorism for years, and they continue to do so today. The examples of that are well documented, and too numerous to list here. If he’s serious he needs to completely revise Fox and stop pandering to his racist viewers. Oh, but thats Fox’s primary audience and there’s too much money in pandering to them.

      • SoCalGal20

        I think the sons are more liberal than dear old dad. I wouldn’t be surprised if things changed a bit around there once Rupert gets his grubby hands off of it.

        • Silver Badger

          As we say in Colorado, Rupert has a duty to die and get out of the way.

        • ian

          They are playing on both sides. Fox supports trump, and their other property the NY Post, slams him. Obviously Fox has a much larger audience and therefore more influence than then Ny Post. If Murdochs sons want to oppose what is happening they can begin with revising Fox’s output.

    • BobSF_94117

      Dear James,

      You could give away the entire fortune your father made and it still wouldn’t be enough to atone for the world he helped create.

      • Silver Badger

        The one to atone for the father is the father. His son, unless he work to support his fathers views and actions, owes nothing.

        • BobSF_94117

          The sons have been working there for years.

    • Cuberly

      They should refuse the donation.

      • Ken M

        Even organizations with greatest moral and ethical purpose and intent need money to act on it. Take it. Use it against him if you see fit. Do not turn it down.

        • Cuberly

          Fox created trump, laid the ground work for his rise. They’re currently serving as his state run media outlet. Basically it’d be like taking money from nazis.

          It’s just my opinion. They may do great work but it’s easier doing it with a clear conscience.

    • Edmund Allin

      Because of stuff they’re trying to do over here in Britain, they’re trying to appear sane.

  • Tomcat

    Sure hope Rachael is good tonight. Falling asleep.

  • DesertSun59

    So, let me get this straight.

    45’s daughter converted to Judaism. His BASE is rabidly anti-Jew, and yet they support him and he supports them.

    What am I missing here?

    • Tomcat

      Well there is a lot of sanity missing in trump world.

    • Hank

      Jared, whose real estate companies, had been getting loans from the Russians, by various means, and is under Putinesca’s thumb as well.

    • Ken M

      Nope, Nothing…you got it all : )

    • stevenj

      You’re not missing anything but the daughter and the base are missing brains.

  • Michael R
    • Tomcat

      He sure does not like WINNING.

    • boobert

      He’s an enabler ! If he had any integrity,he would resign .

      • Ross

        I think we should be careful about damming Kelly.

        Yes, he might be a piece of shit.

        But…he might be between a rock and a hard place. Perhaps he believes that his presence is keeping Donnie from nuking NK or some other insane thing. Perhaps he feels that he is all that stands between the salvation of our country and its utter ruination.

        Or not.

        I do not know the man. I do not know what is going through his mind. But he might, might, be doing a great service for our country.

    • Treant

      Shrug. Except the homophobic dad is having the wrong reaction and isn’t fully involved with his son’s interest and life. However, said dad is at least trying, and I’m willing to give him a full score just for that.

      This guy is reacting negatively to his boss being a total fuckwad in front of three hundred million people, empowering literal Nazis, belittling the death of a young woman, and then does nothing about it. I have no respect for him and award him zero points.

  • Rebecca Gardner

    I just cry all the time now. This is the new norm and I’m so exhausted by it.

    Watching Rachel. Another terrorist attack with a vehicle. Another, in less than a week. What for? Why? I’m 50 years old and I’ve seen a lot of the world and I have yet to find someone different from me. What I mean by that is my favorite part of traveling is that even if you don’t speak the language everyone on earth speaks human. A smile, a gesture, a kind act, a hug, we are all the same. So why the fuck do we all go out of our way to kill each other.

    Every second of every hour of every day of every month this year is just hate, hate, hate, hate, hate! Why? For what?

    • Rebecca Gardner

      What breaks my heart is it’s Barcelona. Of all the cities in all the countries on all the continents I’ve visited I love Barcelona. It’s not for the food, it’s not for the weather, it’s not for the Gaudy architecture which is so fun. My love for that city is the people. Such wonderful, beautiful, warm, welcoming, fun people. WTF did they do? WTF did the people in VA do? What the fuck is going on in the world!!

      • Tomcat

        Here is another anti depressant.
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nADKaoCxnYM

        • Rebecca Gardner

          You win the “I Cheered Up Becca” prize for today. The video you shared brought back one of my most cherished memories.

          My best friend in the whole world, my sister, won front of stage, on the field, tickets to the Amnesty International Conspiracy of Hope concert. She decided to take her best friend in the whole world, me, her sister, to the concert.

          We were there for about 16 hours. We saw every singer, band, celebrity, politician, etc., that you could imagine. Got a little sun burn, drank a little wine, smoked a little pot. It was awesome!!! The strongest memory of that day was Peter Gabriel singing “Biko.” I was just 4 or 5 people back from the stage. The bass was so powerful your eyes would vibrate and you couldn’t see. Everyone was moved by this song and I am still moved by it today.

          This is the song from that day. I’m in that sea of humanity in this video. Enjoy!

          https://youtu.be/iLg-8Jxi5aE?list=RDiLg-8Jxi5aE

          • Tomcat

            Here is one for later. Great video. Shows where we have been .
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PivWY9wn5ps

          • Snarkaholic
          • jimbo65

            I love Peter Gabriel. I remember watching the telecast of this concert. What a great memory to have and you were actually there. This has always been one of my favorites from Peter, his duet with Kate Bush. Dedicated to you Rebecca!
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjEq-r2agqc

          • Rebecca Gardner

            I was actually there.

            I’m sitting here smiling and remembering the whole day like it was yesterday. Holy Shit 31 years ago. I’m fucking old. I was a college sophomore. Peter Gabriel was in his mid-30s.

            I also vividly remember Muhammad Ali speaking that day and loving so much what he had to say, but being so sad at how badly he was shaking. An American Icon was right there in front of me. To see his age and disease was sad, but to hear his words was miraculous.

          • Todd20036

            You aren’t old.
            You’re vintage.

          • FAEN

            God I love love love that song.

          • jimbo65

            I can’t fully explain what that song means to me. I think it lifted me up a bit at times when I felt low. The song is sad, yet in the end uplifting. It’s just perfect.

          • FAEN

            I owe you a bit of thanks. I’ve just gone through something that’s been hard and really punched my confidence. I had forgotten about this song until you reminded me about it and it ifted my spirits when I needed it. So thanks.

          • jimbo65

            You’re very welcome!

          • JCF

            “Biko” always make me cry.

            This scene always makes me cry (truthfully, this scene makes me cry just thinking about it).

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PYsyl4xBDA

          • Lumpy Gaga

            OMG, I wuz dere!

            My one time actually seeing Joni Mitchell live and I couldn’t hear a note.

        • FAEN

          Ah-Michael before he lost his mind and so much of his nose.

          • Todd20036

            Drug addiction, it even can take people who you’d never think would introduce poisons into their body

          • FAEN

            Michael seemed like he was fighting his own demons even before the drug addiction.

      • JCF

        That’s what my BFF told me about Barcelona. Just The Best Place Evah!

        • Rebecca Gardner

          Your BFF is right. If you’ve never been you must go. Barcelona is just amazing.

          • FAEN

            I wouldn’t say no to a tour by a hot Spaniard.

    • Tomcat
    • Smokey

      It is daunting and it is spirit crushing, but we must have hope.
      We must be the love that is missing elsewhere.
      All I can offer is an internet (,,,) hug (,,,) and one from the Cub as well…
      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d98810b3f0e068ad75e1991ffe9aba2741fdd09fae1533c7553fd24f1ecafb56.jpg

    • Refugay

      I’ve been thinking about that too. I live to travel, to see the unknown, the different, and the unfamiliar. I’m thrilled to see new ways of doing things and looking at things and understanding that we humans are all the same at heart. There are so many beautiful, wonderful people in this world-everywhere. I’ve seen ugliness and evil too. Hate is a powerful tool but we have to have faith that love will win. Love always wins! Tell someone you love them right now. It’s at least a bit more love in this world right now than there was before. Sounds cheesy but do it. You’ll feel better.

    • Ninja0980

      Because so many people are miserable and have to blame others for their rotten luck in life.

    • Hue-Man

      Don’t give up. We can make a difference. Today’s hopeful headline in a horrific situation:

      Tearful reunion as Yazidi boy arrives in Winnipeg
      http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/tearful-reunion-as-yazidi-boy-arrives-in-winnipeg-1.4250422 https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/7a9f15282eed5bf8eca932bcb397760a8d0e17a6425dcc27ab7749a758f857c0.jpg

      • Rebecca Gardner

        That made me cry more. At least they were happy tears this time.

      • Cackalaquiano

        Thank you!

    • Ross

      Dear Rebecca,

      I well appreciate your pain and despair.

      Well appreciate.

      Something which helps me is the reminder that, as bad as things seem, an overview reveals another, more hopeful story.

      I find this really helpful:

      The world is actually safer than ever. And here’s the data to prove that,/em>

      https://www.pri.org/stories/2014-10-23/world-actually-safer-ever-and-heres-data-prove

      • bzrd

        Something which keeps me going is the simple fact that Mueller is a very intelligent and dedicated man who, I believe, sees the danger in having a Resident Nazi. Each day I think of the hard work he, and all those he’s chosen to get to the bottom of all the crimes, are doing so we can get the criminals out of the government. My thoughts; do a good job, and my prayers: prison uniforms for the Nazi, his family and many more.

    • Pat

      It’s a fraction of people who are infected with hate. The vast overwhelming majority of us are happy enough to live and let live. But even the most peaceful of people will get angry and frustrated by the violence and hate and that’s good, righteous anger is good. It’s when we become indifferent that evil can take hold.

    • Silver Badger

      As I have said to many others here, don’t let the BASTARDS get you down. Find things to make you laugh and hold your loved ones tight.

    • Snarkaholic

      Well, for one thing, many of these creeps were taught, from birth, that they are horrible, damaged, worthless sinners (by their parents and by the clergy)…resulting in the complete ruination of the child’s self-esteem.
      Being part of one of these “organizations” gives them a feeling of power, importance, and belonging. (For the record, I’m NOT advocating NOR excusing their vile words/deeds.)

    • Silver Badger

      Could some of that despair be fueled by the medication needed for your hand?

      • Rebecca Gardner

        Actually, today I learned that under normal circumstances I’d be just fine, but because I am dealing with so many injuries the lab work and stuff is showing my body allergic to one treatment, being completely beat up by another, and the doctors are trying to coordinate.

        I was just given one new drug today and I’m actually afraid to take it. I am apparently gonna be a zombie for 3 days until my body adjusts. Sounds like fun! FML!

        I’m currently working with HR at my company. I’m not physically, mentally, or emotionally able to work at this point. It’s gotten so out of hand. I hope maybe a month off or something to get all this behind me will be the answer.

        • Silver Badger

          Sounds much like what many of us older ones went through with the early AIDS drugs. Try to be strong and please remember that you have many, many real friends here.

        • zhera

          Some rest would probably be best for you. Hopefully the new drug will work! ♥

    • FAEN

      I know it’s hard right now but you have to hold on to yourself and to others because this too shall pass!

      I just hope the next time we have a candidate purists are not thrilled about they get off their asses and vote for them anyway instead of sitting home or voting for some pol who didn’t have a chance in hell of winning.

  • Stubenville

    Own it Cheetolini: this is one of the “fine” people you refuse to condemn, preaching genocide.

    • Dreaming Vertebrate

      Dumpf: He seems like a fine nazi. Believe me.

  • JT

    Time to consider immediate lock up for the criminally insane.

  • anne marie in philly

    ignorant fucking ugly white bastard!

  • JT

    Traitor Nazi Drumpf will pay for what his evil has wrought!

    • Rebecca Gardner

      I used to believe that. I’m starting to feel like a German in 1933.

      • JT

        Act up! Fight back! Revolt!

      • Hank

        Just keep thinking Never Again, and let us hope, that the Mossad will do its thing!!!

        • JT

          Nuttinyahoo must be perplexed that his boy Drumpf is showing his Nazi colors. What a fucking moron.

          • UrsusArctos

            Bibi doesn’t care, as long as we let him pursue his goals.

      • clay

        Were there articles of impeachment introduced against Hitler in 1933?

    • clay

      Did y’all see this: Ranking Member Cohen to Introduce Articles of Impeachment Against President Donald Trump After Comments on Charlottesville
      https://cohen.house.gov/media-center/press-releases/ranking-member-cohen-introduce-articles-impeachment-against-president

      • JT

        Yay, Steve Cohen!

      • UrsusArctos

        And to think some Democrats went after him because they felt Memphis should have a black rep, not a jewish one.

  • Mike C

    Their race war should be an interesting one since most of these guys look like they’re a light jog away from a stroke.

  • Jerry Kott

    This is all they have! Let him make threats, they make a lot of noise but make very little sense. Not saying there are no concerns but don’t let these ass wipes rule your life.

    • JT

      Organize and prepare for when they try to do more. Then hit them hard!

      • Jerry Kott

        We live in rural Pennsylvania and are very familiar with this mindset. They often appear to have the support of local Law Enforcement which adds a level of concern but when push come to shove they are sneaky cowards.

        • Ninja0980

          Same in parts of rural NY (including the area some of my dad’s relatives live in.)
          There are good people in rural areas but there is a LOT of ugly there too.

          • Pat

            When I used to attend church in a Long Island suburb close to the city line, twice hate groups sneaked their propaganda into the church lobby. One was a Holocaust denier group and the other was Christian Knights. These a-holes pop up everywhere.

          • Silver Badger

            Same in rural Colorado.

          • Jerry Kott

            I agree. We have met some decent people but the ugly is in hyper drive. I have never imagined ever meeting some of the most messed up people in my life and add substance abuse into the mix.

          • Ninja0980

            Lot of that there as well.
            When everything up there is dying, it’s the only way many folks know how to cope.

          • Jerry Kott

            This quote works
            “I imagine one of the reason People cling to their Hates so stubbornly is because they sense, once hate is gone, they will be forced to deal with pain.” James Baldwin

          • Snarkaholic

            …and personal responsibility for a large percentage of their current circumstances.

          • Jerry Kott

            They don’t know what personal responsibility is.

  • Lazycrockett

    So was Joy as boring as Rachel?

    • Tomcat

      Yes. All I can say.

  • Pat

    I won’t be sorry when one of those immigrants or someone else this dumbass patch wearing goober is threatening finally pounds his ass into the ground.

    • Silver Badger

      Will you help pay for the assault charges? I would donate.

      • Pat

        That’s what gofundme is perfect for. “Backlash for Bullies”

        • Silver Badger

          Gofundme won’t help pay for illegal acts. Punching a Nazi is the right thing to do, but still illegal.

          • Pat

            Oddly enough, I’m glad they don’t. It protects us all but if push came to shove with one of these thugs, defense money would find its way to the appropriate people.

  • Michael R

    Duck Dynasty spinoff in the making .

  • Moebym Reborn

    In the mid-90’s, while we were living in east Tennessee, my family received a threatening phone call from a white supremacist claiming his son would join the KKK. I’ve been thinking about that incident more often these days, wondering how this man and his son had turned out, and whether they had ever committed any hate crimes.

    That also brings to mind that one bitter middle-aged white woman at the bus station in lily-white Wisconsin who told a group of Chinese grad students we were stealing American jobs. I wonder if she voted for Trump, thinking he’d get rid of the “problem” once and for all.

    Must be a miserable existence to be so bitter at the loss of their inborn privilege that they are fueled by resentment and hate.

    I’m honestly afraid that I’ll be dragged down to their level and spend the rest of my life bitter and void of happiness.

    • Karl Dubhe

      How can someone steal a job she didn’t want? smh

      • -M-

        Or wasn’t qualified for.

        • Karl Dubhe

          If you want a job you’re not qualified for, there are ways…

    • DoctorDJ

      “…who told a group of Chinese grad students we were stealing American
      jobs. I wonder if she voted for Trump, thinking he’d get rid of the
      “problem” once and for all…”
      Doncha’ll worry. Lilly-white Wisconsin is just as scared and ignorant as you remember.

      http://www.npr.org/2017/08/17/544259756/trump-voters-discuss-the-presidents-comments-on-confederate-monuments

  • Ninja0980

    https://twitter.com/foxnews/status/898315076372844544
    Sorry, as much as I loathe Trump and am aware he and Republicans have made similar threats against Obama and Democrats, this is just plain STUPID.
    Why, WHY give the Republicans and the media both sides ammo?

    • houstonray

      Sigh……when will our side ever learn?

      • Karl Dubhe

        This is one time when the phrase both sides works.

        As in, “both sides are humans, and so we’re all capable of wonder and horror.” Hopefully more wonder than horror. 🙂

    • Tomcat

      Damn that was NOT a smart move. I can forgive her for it because I to have said it. I just don’t have anything to lose by saying it. She is actually the stronger person here.

    • Pat

      Apologize and be like the Republicans who say the most horrendous shit: don’t resign, tough it out. A lot of us have thought it. She was overwhelmed by her frustration and said it out loud.

      • djcoastermark

        At least an apology would be a major step up from what repubbles do.

      • Lazycrockett

        Republicans don’t apologize they double down.

        • Pat

          That’s right, they never apologize, they stare everyone in the face until they back off. With this news cycle, it’ll be forgotten pretty quickly.

        • carrot festival

          They file lawsuits.

        • UrsusArctos

          Non-apology apology. Sorry you got offended. GOPers have raised that shit to an art form.

        • Lumpy Gaga

          Don’t retreat! Re-load!!

    • JCF

      Argh, FFS, why? Rethugs are GOING DOWN: don’t get in their way!

  • Joseph Miceli

    Well that was just special. Watching that beautiful educated accomplished journalist being called the N-word by that fat inbred hate filled waddling nightmare of a gene pool has to be the nadir of my day . There will be no ovens on American soil . There are enough real Americans who will die before we let that happen . Hell, there is enough real Americans who will make sure the Nazis die before we let that happen ! Not this time fuck face !!

  • safari
  • Cuberly

    So now he says there is a warrant out for his arrest and that he plans on turning himself in.

    He’s so detached from reality, is this even real?

    https://twitter.com/saletan/status/898362630754230273

    • Tomcat

      Well I don’t want to see him crying his eyes out tomorrow.

      • Cuberly

        Oh, if he’s dragged away in cuffs blubbering It’d be worth it to see him responding to actual reality, instead of the nazi COSPlay circus going on in his brain.

    • AJ Drew

      Geesh, a guy can’t even go for a jog with his dogs without coming back to more chaos. But… wait, we’re not talking about the guy in the OP, are we?

  • Dreaming Vertebrate

    The Art of the Denial
    >> Nixon: I am not a crook.
    >> Christine 0’Donnell : I am not a witch.
    >> Chris Christie: I am not a bully.
    >> Trump: I am a Nazi!

  • ultragreen

    O/T: ACLU rethinks position about defending hate groups protesting with guns.

    http://www.rawstory.com/2017/08/aclu-rethinks-defending-hate-groups-protesting-with-guns-wsj/

    • Dreaming Vertebrate

      A welcome change. Good.

      • -M-

        Yeah. There needs to be a clear distinction between free speech and an armed mob.

        If Nazis etc want to march fine, but do it without guns just like everyone else does.

        • Dreaming Vertebrate

          It’s time to stop coddling armed Nazis.
          They use the system against a just and civil society.

          • Lumpy Gaga

            Which is what Bill Clinton said about the ‘T’ word (terrorists) way back when…

    • KnownDonorDad

      Bottom line: is it protest, or is it assault? I personally fall more on the latter than, say, the Supreme Court did when I said the Westboro Baptist Church could picket funerals (I think it can reasonably be called verbal assault). Once your protest is armed, it does affect things.

  • mark99k

    Prep the guillotines.

  • -M-

    He seems nice. /s

  • SoCalGal20

    Very interesting thread on Jefferson Davis Highway.

    https://twitter.com/heroinebook/status/898295767642759169

    Also, San Diego had a plaque for the highway that the mayor had removed yesterday!

    http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/california/la-me-horton-plaza-confederate-20170816-story,amp.html

  • Lazycrockett
    • Ninja0980

      Yup, as all of know here, sticking it to LGBT citizens have been one of the issues the GOP uses to get their voters out again and again and again.

  • SoCalGal20

    Lawrence just had a segment where they talked about this very useful TrumpRussia timeline on billmoyers.com. It has over 400 entries and is updated daily and has become a valuable tool for journalists. Sounds very interesting.

    http://billmoyers.com/story/trump-russia-timeline/

    • Hank

      Here is the link to the site. It seems to be worth following!!!

      http://billmoyers.com/story/trump-russia-timeline/

      • SoCalGal20

        I edited my post to include the link but yes, and excellent resource!

    • Cuberly

      HA! I think the Moyers website is crashing….suuuuuuper slow.

  • Xiao Ai: The Social Gadfly

    6,000,000 Jews. About the same number of Nazi’s died and even more Germans, Austrians, and their sympathizers. I’m happy to even the score a second time around. I don’t fear turds like this in the least. I flush ’em.

  • SoCalGal20

    Brian Williams’ opening is one big Trump BURN. The snark is A+!

  • houstonray

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b0a615203d020115b5dc1bc36350bdcba89ea8e53246f63c28461af9030667cf.jpg

    I HEARBY DEMAND that this statue of Trump and McConnell be removed immediately!!!

  • bkmn

    Komen, Red Cross and Salvation Army so far are refusing to relocate their fundraising events from Mar-a-Fraudo. Please contact them and let them know you will not be donating if they do not move their events. Be polite but firm. For SalArmy use the link to find your local group to post a complaint. Let them know you will no longer donate to them if they don’t move their events from Mar-a-Fraudo. Make them fear a big drop in donations.

    All three orgs are filled to the rim with right wingers. Komen (the same CEO is there from when they tried to screw over Planned Parenthood, also where Karen Handel was during the PP episode), Red Cross was stacked with right wingers by W, Salvation Army has tons of ties to the Evangelicals tied to Trump).

    http://ww5.komen.org/Contact.aspx
    https://www.redcross.org/contact-us/general-inquiry
    http://www.salvationarmyusa.org/usn/contact

    • SoCalGal20

      A+ for Mar-a-Fraudo!

    • Lazycrockett

      Well Salvation Army are a bunch of assholes, so they aren’t going to do the right thing.

      • Silver Badger

        You got that right!

      • RJ Bone

        ^This^

    • fuzzybits

      Columbus is home to the largest Susan G Koman race for the cure so I’m sure a lot of people will be in touch when they find out.

    • zhera

      I’m amazed at how many fund raising events are taking/were supposed to take place at Mar-a-Fraudo. Surely they can’t be known for giving a discount for good causes!

      • clay

        And writing it off Trumps personal taxes, even thought it’s also on the books of the Trump [legal defense] Fund(ation).

    • Lumpy Gaga

      Not a problem for me. Komen and Salvation Army were in no danger of patronage from me.

      (Was just gonna post something about Red Cross, but realized I got them confused with United Way).

  • Lamb Urgini
    • Lazycrockett

      Yeah I was just going to post that Tina Fey was on SNL tonight, so that’s must see.

  • fuzzybits
  • ohbear1957
  • Lazycrockett

    Did anyone post the video of the kid when shit went down took off his hat and shirt and said he was only there for shits n giggles and didn’t mean it?

  • Meh

    The hatred toward the undocumented is sheer, unadulterated jealousy.

    They come here with nothing, don’t speak the language, and yet manage to thrive in spite of it, because they help eachother out.

    This bigot was given free citizenship at birth, given all the advantages of white privilege, and he’s still a fucking loser.

    • Refugay

      That’s it. It should be called the white male impotency movement. They’ve failed to launch. Everyone else is to blame, up and down the food chain. They claim to be Nationalists but hate the government, aka American democracy, who’s tit the suck on. I honestly believe almost all human beings have the capacity for redemption, not the religious kind, but we have to quash this movement and address the root causes. It has the capacity to destroy us all if left unchecked.

      • GanymedeRenard

        “It should be called the white straight (and cis) male impotency movement.”

        There. More accurate, I think.

    • JCF

      Yesterday, a ***cancer nurse*** was deported. Her patients in the oncology ward (Oakland CA, not sure which hospital) were stunned. She and her husband are taking their youngest (U.S. citizen) back to Mexico, leaving two teen daughters to be raised by their eldest. (DACA: she could go next).

      It’s just appalling.

      • GanymedeRenard

        Speechless. Really.

      • Ninja0980

        And in the minds of many folks, fine by them.
        That’s what sickens me the most.

    • clay

      Uhh, let’s not use stereotypes in our own arguments– Most undocumented immigrants to the US do not sneak across a desert border at night. Less than half are Latino. A large chunk, perhaps the majority, have conversational English skills. A significant number have college degrees. The immigrants working in the mushroom caves and restaurant kitchens, farms and construction sites and nursing homes here in SE PA are more likely to be legal immigrants, who scrimp and save so they can build schools and medical clinics in their home towns, while Trump supporters are anxious about living on $52,000 per person per year.

  • edrex

    way o/t, but pretty damn funny and a good distraction:
    https://harpers.org/archive/2017/09/public-enemy/

  • safari
    • fuzzybits

      Uggg.

    • crewman

      Except you can go get another job. And you don’t get beat up or killed.

    • Ninja0980

      Were you thrown in jail or a mental hospital where you would be subject to electroshock therapy?
      No?
      Then shut the fuck up.

    • So he was beaten, then thrown in prison? Or was he committed to a mental institution against his will, then subjected to electroshock and insulin shock “therapy”?

      • Gay people were also routinely subjected to castration (both chemical and surgical). Sometimes lobotomies.

        • Ninja0980

          Yup and job wise, if you were outed, that was it for employment almost everywhere.
          Not the case for this asshole.

          • Same with trying to rent a place anywhere. And if you owned a home, you could expect to be hounded out of it.

    • Lazycrockett

      So have they cut off your testicles? Cause they use to do that in the 50’s.

      • Dreaming Vertebrate

        Well, even a genius like Alan Turing was chemically castrated. (This in 1952.)
        Imagine what Google must he doing to these poor conservative snowflakes.

    • Silver Badger

      On the bright side, they had almost stopped using lobotomy as a treatment by the 50’s

    • NZArtist

      You could choose not to be an arsehole.

    • Cuberly

      Disagreeing with an inexperienced millennial, entitled, white douche-bro……yeah, totes exactly the same.

    • zhera
    • KnownDonorDad

      We have reached peak rightsplaining.

    • UrsusArctos

      If his programming logic is as shitty as his general logic, he should have never been hired – unless Google has a slot in their diversity program that needed a few flaming hemmorhoids.
      Nope. He hasn’t been bashed for being an asshole.

    • JCF
      • coram nobis

        … in a Cinemascope production.

    • Lumpy Gaga

      Oh, Jimmy. Quit while everyone else has passed the finish line and gone home, already.

  • Statistics Palin

    I’d love to doxx that redneck to MS-13. I hope they watch Univision.

    • Rebecca Gardner

      I can Doxx him for you, but I hate MS-13 as much as these KKK fucks. However, can we put their fight on Pay-Per-View? Now that would be interesting.

      • Statistics Palin

        I like your ide. I have a friend who used to work for the Mossad. She interest the Mossad in handling the “transportation.” I have another who’s a partner at Goldman. She might arrange the initial financing.

        We’ll call it “Running Klan.”

  • Lee Grupsmith-Pedersen

    One thing I cannot wrap my head around: They hate Jews but this person deigned to have an interview with a Spanish-language TV channel? I had no idea that xenophobia was so selective.

    • Dreaming Vertebrate

      The hate takes backseat to the attention wh*re.

  • safari

    Not-so-official Tina Fey SNL “Sheetcaking” sketch
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eBWUgT-FlQ

    • Lazycrockett

      Its a great bit.

    • houstonray

      I might just have to try sheet caking….because wine bottling hasn’t worked very well yet.

    • Lazycrockett

      “You dont know how to @ someone on twitter?”

    • UrsusArctos

      I ♥ the reminder that drag queens are still 6′-4″ men that you screw with t your own risk.

    • Lumpy Gaga

      Awesome. TY.

  • Cuberly
  • Lazycrockett
  • Barry William Teske

    That is not free speech being exercised.
    That is a direct threat.
    Are your laws and judicial system up to an obvious challenge?
    Well America?

  • Stay strong… it’s only going to get worse before it gets better.
    https://twitter.com/elizabeth28536/status/898393331948023808

    But it will get better.

    • JCF
    • JCF

      Want to add: the reactions by the military branch commanders to 1) Drumpf’s ad lib Trans-ban, and 2) his C’ville racism…has me MUCH more reassured that, come Constitutional crisis—and it will likely come—illegal orders will NOT be obeyed.

    • Bryan

      And as the writer mentions, “It’s time to donate to the ACLU.”

  • Richard B

    Yikes, another tough sounding KKK asshole attention seeker – thanks Donald Trump.
    Lets find out where Christopher Barker lives and make sure everyone on earth knows everything about him and post it everywhere. If he goes off the reservation and makes any infraction of the law, let make sure the authorities are promptly notified. If Christopher Barker wants to make hostile threats and is seeking attention, let make sure he is under a microscope and gets it.

  • safari
    • Lazycrockett

      Well deserved. Rachel and Lawrence have been on fire and Joy brings the black twitter. Its good to be MSNBC right now. Also the afternoon block has gotten really really good.

      • Ninja0980

        If only Tameron Hall and Thomas Roberts (who is basically gone) were still there.

        • Lazycrockett

          Thomas still shows up on weekends but honestly as a anchor/host he’s really softball and not that interesting. Yes he looks hot shirtless but………………….Now Tameron I miss dearly.

          • JCF

            Heh, I’m kinda the other way around: Tamron looks hot, but I can’t say I really miss her that much as a journalist.

          • Ninja0980

            There are even hotter photos of him out there.
            His husband is a lucky man.

    • SoCalGal20

      Rachel and Lawrence are destroying Fox, lol. And Chris Hayes had more viewers than Tucker Carlson! Lololololol.

  • Cuberly
  • Max_1
  • Lazycrockett

    https://twitter.com/jacktink/status/898389275938504704

    Well Im officially old, cause something called juggalo is going on and it has something to do with Insane Clown Posse and something.

    • JCF

      Wow, I’m Officially Younger Than Someone! ;-p

    • safari

      They’re from Michigan. They’re sullying the Faygo (soda) brand, too.

    • Adam King

      I’m old too but I’ve heard of them because I’m “hip” and “with it” as the kids say.

    • coram nobis

      The “It” clown.

  • Lazycrockett
    • Bryan

      Going down swinging…

    • JCF
    • zhera

      Fascists have always been against women controlling their own bodies.

    • Daveed_WOW

      Trump is Hitler. What have I been saying? Deliberate, systematic attacks on all minorities, one at a time, plus women. Unwavering defense of racist white sexist men. This man is Hitler.

    • clay

      Uh, how does that work? It is part of ACA– legislated. How does an executive order trump a law?

  • bkmn

    After advocating to oppose Russian bots tonight, after rebooting I found my usual links on my toolbar were gone. I ran virus scan and malware scan today. Watch yourselves.

    The Trumpers are scared and desperate.

    • clay

      Had you been doing that incognito? Were you still incognito when you re-booted? Not saying you’re wrong, just don’t want panic, either. Play safe.

      • bkmn

        Not sure what happened. Booted my computer this morning and it was still not right. Started apps and unpinned email from taskbar and repinned it and everything came back. Will run scans but hopefully it was just a minor bug.

  • Max_1

    You know who I haven’t seen on the streets in downtown Seattle…
    … The LaRouche douches and their nazi stashes on a sitting President.

    Humm…

  • Max_1

    Dear Donald J. Trump,
    If you think fighting Nazi’s and White Supremacists makes you the violent one…
    … Go tell the Jews who fought back in the Warsaw Ghetto that they deserve ridicule.
    http://www.pzeribielsko.pl/uploaded/aktualnosci/wojna/334667.jpg

    • clay

      Needs to be addressed more broadly than Trump– he’s a lost cause. It needs to go to his Cabinet, the GOP House and Senate, and to Fox News.

  • Cuberly

    Well, the teaser for tomorrows episode of The Apprentice-45 looks promising.

    https://twitter.com/funder/status/898376899080187909

    • Lazycrockett

      The GOP is NOT going to abandon Drumpf. Its not going to happen.

      • Cuberly

        You’re right. But, I can still bitch at them about it….lol….

        • Lazycrockett

          At this point the only hope for the GOP is that the DEMS take at least the Senate so they can throw their hands up and blame them for the next 2 years. I have never been one of those “this party cant survive this” types, but honestly the GOP has gotten themselves into a shit storm. If they stay with the Drumpf base they are going to be in a lot of hurt for a long time.

          • clay

            IF the courts continue to limit the worst gerrymandering, and IF they GOP doesn’t succeed in fucking the 2020 Census, and IF . . . It’s going to take actual felony charges to spark impeachment with the current House and Senate.

      • Karl Dubhe

        They abandoned Nixon, in the end.

        Trump’s just suffering from premature Impeachment.

        *Which still isn’t premature fast enough…

        • Lazycrockett

          The base never abandoned Nixon, and these times are very very different than the 70’s. You really think Mitch and Paul are going to the WH and telling Drumpf to resign??

          • Ninja0980

            Indeed… and here in NY, his son-in law is chair of the Republican Party and has been whitewashing what Nixon did the past 40 years.
            And folks on the right believe every word of it.

          • Karl Dubhe

            I think there will come a point were they will have to do just that.

            That’s when the Constitutional Crisis will explode.

          • JCF

            Repeating my comment from below:

            the reactions by the military branch commanders to 1) Drumpf’s ad lib Trans-ban, and 2) his C’ville racism…has me MUCH more reassured that, come Constitutional crisis—and it will likely come—illegal orders will NOT be obeyed.

          • Lazycrockett

            Yeah it does give me hope that the all of the military branches are like “Fuck this Nazi Klan shit” .

          • Lumpy Gaga

            [Inhales sharply]

            “Sit down, Son….”

      • JCF

        I’m honestly not sure. The GOP “Establishment” never liked him. Probably most Rethugs were merely pragmatic about him. The DrumpfenKorp is solid…for now. But if (when?) Drumpf crashes Obama’s economy, even they will soften.

        • Lazycrockett

          Mitch, Ryan and the “est” fell in line. Those who didnt went rogue. Like it or not the GOP is the party of Drumpf.

          • Lazycrockett

            and hell even those who went rogue, i.e. Kasich still refuses to denounce him.

          • Adam King

            They’re all a bunch of closet racists. They’re happy as clams to see the envelope being pushed as far to the fascist right as they can get it. They figure what with gerrymandering, voter suppression and corrupt state governments under their control, their seats, and control of Congress, are safe enough. They’re completely devoid of principles. So why rock the boat?

    • safari

      And Mike Pence cut his South American tour short to come back for a strangely-timed “Afghanistan” meeting.

      • Lazycrockett

        What does Pence know bout Afghanistan?

        • Adam King

          Exactly fuck-all.

        • Mikey

          isn’t that right next to Alabamistan?

        • Snarkaholic

          He knows PLENTY…Mother knits them all the time!

        • clay

          Even before the election, Trump promised he would hand off foreign policy to his VP. Even before the election, Trump promised he would hand off domestic policy to his VP. Even before the election, Trump was promising to be the Tweet and golf guy.

    • Dreaming Vertebrate

      Dumpf and his Nazi goons are in free fall!
      Down, down , down, …
      Splat, … splaTTT, … SPaaaLAT!

    • coram nobis

      And Robert Mueller is offstage, ready for his entrance to end the opera.

      Him the Almighty Power
      Hurled headlong flaming from th’ethereal sky,
      With hideous ruin and combustion, down
      To bottomless perdition; there to dwell
      In adamantine chains and penal fire …
      — John Milton

      • clay

        “Penal fire” yeah, I’m thinking like a 12 year old.

        • coram nobis

          Well, yes, his last apology had all the sincerity of a 12-year-old caught with cigarettes, telling dad “I’m sorry and I’m not really going along with this.”

    • Max_1

      32% and diving by Labor Day.
      If Trump hasn’t recovered face from his ‘both-side-isms’ gaf…
      … Impeachment inevitable soon thereafter. Trump will spoil his chances with the Senate for his defense in his Trial if he keeps alienating and attacking them.

    • Treant

      “Do you strongly approve, approve, disapprove, or strongly disapprove of Donald Trump and the Republican Party?”

      “You don’t have a ‘fucking idiots’ option?”

  • bambinoitaliano
    • Lazycrockett

      https://iconicphotos.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/johnny-cash-finger-2.jpg

      That is what Cash would think of Nazis and the Klan.

    • leastyebejudged

      crying now.

    • greenmanTN

      Believe me, I understand the reasons for it, but it hurts a bit when I read blanket condemnations of Southerners. Like Johnny Cash’s family there are lots of us who weren’t raised to hate others, and many who have rejected the ugly messages they received from their families.

      Many of you have seen the videos by “Liberal Redneck” Trae Crowder. Like him or not, reading the comments about them is instructive. Tons of them are along the lines of “Thank you for giving voice to the many people of the South who are not at all like the stereotype.”

      This is one of the seminal moments of childhood. My cousins were talking about how there were black people then there were n*****s. My dad overheard it and went after them like a mongoose on a snake. “They are INDIVIDUALS just like you!” That’s when I learned not to see ANY group as a monolithic entity , but as individuals, and that includes Southerners.

      /lecture mode

  • Mickey Bitsko

    The bitch slap was created for mugs like that. That goes for the crotch kick and the sledgehammer to the cranium as well.

  • GanymedeRenard

    Of course this will be off topic, but what the hell! As other fellow JMGers have expressed, I too am moved by this tune every time I hear (and listen to) it, and I find it most appropriate today (Central U.S. time) out of all days:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkskujG0UYc

  • Max_1
    • GanymedeRenard

      Hats off to whomever created this meme. Hats off!

  • zhera

    Anyone here who would like to give this a go?

    https://twitter.com/girlsreallyrule/status/897967531641655296

    • Lazycrockett

      It really sucks that Harris isn’t getting the media attention deserved.

      • zhera

        Well, a white woman died. A black man who survives will not get the same attention. That’s the reality whether we like it or not. 🙁

        • Daveed_WOW

          Jesus. It’s always that way, isn’t it? The media is obsessed with the controversy over the speech rights of those white bigots, overlooking that they were armed and that they were beating people. The people beaten are non-persons. Straight up banal racism.

          • clay

            Fox News, and therefore our bully in the pulpit, are saying it was a “chaotic scene”, as if that’s a social sin. A “chaotic scene” used to be a good night on the town. But any crowd is bad as far as the suburbanites are concerned. Chaos can’t be handled by the law and ORDER freaks. Like most race riots in US history, it was whites going into someone else’s neighborhood to beat people selected randomly and without provocation.

      • Lumpy Gaga

        No, that would require our librul media to show pix and film evidence that our peaceful shrinking violet Real Victims of Charlottesville were delivering a Rodney King-like beatdown, using anything handy, including the parking-lot arm, on a man who had the misfortune to be by himself at the wrong place at the wrong time.

    • LesbianTippingHabits

      All persons of good will, who might have any idea who these people are, have an obligation to support the Commonwealth of Virginia’s criminal justice system which protects everyone under our Constitution. Thank you.

  • Nychta
    • Lazycrockett

      We appeased the south way to fucking much after the war, but then again the victors didn’t know what to do with the largest ethnic class in america either.

      • Mickey Bitsko

        Alas, it isn’t that simple. After the Civil War, there were many Black elected officials on the federal and state level. President Grant’s administration was quite enlightened race-wise (not counting Native Americans, because like today, nobody gave a flying fuck about them.) But that didn’t last very long.

      • JCF

        Reconstruction was good in theory, but after Lincoln was killed, it was simultaneously corrupt (the “carpet-baggers”, and their exploitation) AND didn’t actually achieve equality for newly-freed African-Americans (because, let’s face it, too few white Northerners believed in equality either).

        It was going to be a difficult project under the best of circumstances. And President Andrew Johnson was FAR from the best of circumstances!

      • clay

        Currently, the largest ethnic group in America is German-American. The single largest self-identification on the Census’ American Community Survey (formerly ‘the long form”), more common that simply American or African-American, is German-American, and it’s been that way for a long time. The English-speakers were only more in number when combining the English, Welsh, Scots, and Irish.
        Now, that’s not true in all counties and all states, particularly not in the past when people were less mobile and less urban.

        African-Americans are the largest racial class and the second largest ethnic group. They were the racial and ethnic majority in the lowland South at the time of the Civil War and are still prominent in rural areas, there, as well as the urban cores.

        Exoduster communites (Black towns settling the West) were few and not greatly successful, in part due to moving from humid cleared forest to dry uncleared steppe.

    • Mickey Bitsko

      Ms. Wolf’s words are poetry, in the classic American Gothic style.

  • Cuberly

    Nazi dating advice. It’s as good as it sounds. NOT GOOD!

    https://twitter.com/LPDah/status/898420601496289280

    • Max_1

      Cantwell is a victim of his own hate and fear… Boo-fucking-hoo!!!

      • Cuberly

        Like peeling a hate onion, icky layer upon icky layer upon fucking ewwwww….

        • Max_1

          Not as bad as peeing on an electrical fence…
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwKlFkX65Zs

          • Bryan

            Dumbass should know better than to Whizz on the Electric Fence.

          • ZRAinSWVA

            Numbnuts, now, after that foolishness.

    • Mickey Bitsko

      “Hey, I saw your profile and let’s get to know each other. First off, what’s your favorite movie?”

      “Birth of A Nation. Not the recent commie alt-left travesty of the same name, but D.W. Griffith’s epic celebration of white power.”

      “Okay… What’s your favorite color?”

      “White. Very very white. Like pink white.”

      Logs off, cancels membership, legally changes name and moves to another hemisphere.

    • zhera

      Cantwell opens a December 2014 blog post titled “8 Online Dating Tips, for the Ladies,” by sharing a bit about his dating history. “I used to meet women from chat rooms, and no matter how many disasters I run into from this habit, I just keep on trying,” he writes. “I’ve met women with fake photos, had false police reports filed against me, been sprayed
      with breast milk, you name it. It’s a god damn miracle my dick hasn’t fallen off from an STD.”

      1. Tips for the LADIES. Because men are already perfect.
      2. One disaster after another but he persists because he macho man, bro!
      3. False police reports? I’d bet a million bucks on them being real, and truthful, and hopefully your misogynistic ass spent time in jail afterwards.
      4. It’s called a condom. It protects your dick from STDs. You know, when you’re not able to say no to those disasterous, ugly, lying bitches who are squirting you down with breast milk.

      His 8 ‘tips’ were so hateful and disgusting they don’t deserve being repeated.

      • leastyebejudged

        The kinds of whores that go for white nationalists aren’t going to be swayed by reason.

        • clay

          Your use of ‘whores’ . . . it makes you sound angry and I can’t tell if it applies to the women who’d date him, or him and his ‘bros’ who went for white nationalism.

          But it also raises a question for me– were these chatrooms called ‘BackPage’ and ‘Craig’s List’?

          • Lumpy Gaga

            In my travels, I found an archive of a chatroom discussion about Cantwell and his hooking up with someone’s ex- (who was, apparently, a board-moderator groupie. I doubt there are such things, but this was the discussion.)

            I suppose, if your new girlfriend is lactating on you, she’s somebody’s ex-.

  • Max_1

    Trump believes his own racist lies… He Tweets about them casually.
    https://twitter.com/DAvallone/status/898342238584922112

  • JCF

    I know we all can just link all night: there’s so much great reporting&analysis re our Orange Abyss of a President. But I’m really liking this one:

    “Donald Trump’s Implosion Cannot Be Controlled” (Abigail Tracy)

    “In some ways, Trump would rather have people calling him racist than
    say he backed down the minute he was wrong,” one adviser told Politico.

    https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/08/donald-trump-charlottesville-john-kelly

    Yeah, Trump’s an axe-murderer…but at least he never backed down about it!

    • JCF

      Heh, unbeknownst to me, Stephen Colbert was using this same quote (in the monologue), saying

      “Well then: Mr President, you’re a racist!”

  • Travis Morrow

    But if I were to beat him until he couldn’t stand, I’d be the violent lefty terrorist.

    • OdieDenCO

      sometimes you have to take one for the team.

  • Max_1

    If haven’t already seen/read this…
    https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/898302789964705793

    • William

      Wasn’t Putin still married in 2002?

    • LesbianTippingHabits

      I think the FBI needs to focus on potential crime. Frankly, despite my total distaste for Donald Trump, it’s not at all clear how a Miss Universe pageant 15 years ago has any relevance whatsoever to any prosecutable crime.

      • Reality.Bites

        If he accepted a bribe from Putin to let her win, or simply agreed to it as a favour, it establishes long-time contact and collusion.

        It may not be prosecutable, but it’s definitely a valid avenue of investigation.

        • LesbianTippingHabits

          Thank you for the explanation. This is useful information.

  • Max_1
  • barrixines
    • JCF

      Heh, I’ve never seen this “Rosie-the-Riveter” SPAM ad before! Am I a horrible person, that it kinds of makes me hungry? [FTR, I don’t think I’ve ever had SPAM in my 55 years. I mean, ew, meat—crap meat, but mainly *fat*—in a can?] But here, it looks like something Rosie and I can enjoy together, while we’re “helping our boys win the war.” Maybe I’ve been too hard on SPAM…

      …except for assholes who post robo-ads on the intertoobz. ;-/

      • djcoastermark

        After not having spam for decades, I can still remember it from way back when. It’s closer to 50% fat and 50% salt. It’s all that salt that sticks in the mind. ( and awful taste too )

      • Ben in Oakland

        As emeril says, “the flavor is in the fat!”

  • barrixines

    Dancing round the coffee table helps.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnjOWHtSPPQ

  • BEARY FLINTSTONE

    This shit isn’t funny. It’s scary!

  • billbear1961

    And Trump won’t tell these bastards–these celebrants and advocates of GENOCIDE–that he doesn’t want their support and votes, that they aren’t part of his “movement”?!

    And there are no massive and relentless protests to DEMAND his removal from office?!

  • billbear1961

    He calls her the N-word and a mongrel during the interview, is glad 6 million Jews were murdered during the Holocaust and talks about murdering 11 million immigrants; but he says his is a Christian group, not a hate group, and he’s not a racist.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/kkk-leader-interview-latina-journalist-death-threat-black-woman-video-a7899306.html

    He uses racist insults, celebrates the Holocaust and looks forward to murdering 11 million people, but he’s not a racist or a hater.

    What do you have to say about this “man’s” support for you, Trump??

    • Daveed_WOW

      Bigot is as bigot does. Trump is winning bigotly.

  • Reality.Bites

    OT: A look into Trump’s twitter world – the small group of people he follows. From yesterday’s Washington Post, republished in the Toronto Star.

    https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2017/08/17/trumps-twitter-feed-a-window-into-his-world.html

  • Reality.Bites

    OT: Jimmy Kimmel reads angry tweets from Trump supporters.

    On Monday Kimmel called on Trump voters urging them to finally admit that voting for the president was a mistake. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t16xYMSyMXU

    They didn’t take it well.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6aEmKmPNmg

    • billbear1961

      Because they are the deplorables Hillary told us they were!

      • Reality.Bites

        Her only error was calling them baskets. There’s a huge number of them.

    • JCF

      Predictable.

      I’ve just been reading a series of Vox articles that confirm just about every stereotype about white people (like me—well, like me in paleness anyway): the more we think about race, the more racist we get.

      [I’m using the pronoun “we” here, collectively—even it presumably doesn’t explicitly apply to most white commenters here @ JMG.]

      Equality means “non-white people cutting ahead of me in line.”

      If we’re told “non-whites will outnumber whites by 2042” we freak.

      Merely being in the *presence* of two men speaking Spanish (this was a scientific study) on a train, made white Bostonians want to clamp down on immigration.

      And if we see people of color in a TV ad w/ ANY kind of measurable power (counting cash, being treated by a white nurse), we get our racist dunder up.

      All this, is why Steve Bannon is so SURE, that stories like C’ville help Drumpf&Co: they get white people thinking about race. And if we think about race, we’ll choose the racist.

      So, is there any hope? There’s some evidence that white people revolt at EXPLICIT racism: a Klansman too far, as it will (but even that evidence is contested).

      I actually found myself thinking: if only Dems can *target ads to white people*—for heaven’s sake, SHOW only white people in them!

      How much of this is human nature? Joe White Guy: “God, my life sucks. Don’t DARE tell me that someone has it worse than I do—-and that I might be even so SLIGHTLY responsible for that!”

      Oy vey.

      And on that problematic note (for which I have no answers): Good night!

      • AJ Drew
        • JCF

          Not this time. Gotta remember to not post long angsty posts before I go to bed. }-X

      • Reality.Bites

        It’s present everywhere. Canada, for all we’ve done to prevent them, has the same problems with hate the US does.

        But I think we have them to a lesser degree than any country with similar diversity.

        When you clear Customs and Immigration in Toronto and have your luggage this is what you see as the entrance to Canada. A bilingual sign, a rainbow flag and three kids, none of them white, playing basketball.

        And you know what you don’t see? An official portrait of Justin Trudeau. He’s our goddamn EMPLOYEE, not the head of state!

        https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/41d40d86134506c5e2f128b4582fce797cf722d9847953501f150a64af8c839d.jpg

        This is what America needs to do. You need to smack them in the face with your diversity and STOP paying credence to this nonsense about the first amendment requiring everyone to respect and tolerate hate speech AND give it a platform.

        I see it starting. Not at the white house. Not now. But it was there in the Obama White House. And, as we’re starting to see, it’s in corporate boardrooms, for all they’re a white men’s club they’re also a non-stupid club.

      • clay

        Teach/acclimate the kids– all childcare and educational settings should be racially and ethnically integrated. If it’s a private setting, don’t patronize it unless it’s integrated.

  • And yet we still put your leaders on chairs with ropes around their necks and kicked them off.

  • billbear1961

    Is THIS the Voice of America, people?

    Why aren’t Americans in the streets DEMANDING the murderous racists’ god be TORN from the White House he INFESTS??

    • AJ Drew

      Good morning, Bill!

      • billbear1961

        Good morning, AJ!

    • Reality.Bites

      I think they are. Not in the way you’re picturing, but extraordinary things are happening.

      We are also witnessing the same thing we saw in our struggle. These things aren’t won in the streets. They’re won in the boardroom. Is that bad? Probably. But we’ve reached the state that corporate America cares a fuckload more about individual rights and liberties than the government or (goodness knows) any church does, including the liberal ones.

      I’m not going to pretend it’s altruism. It’s good for business. I think we, gay man, taught them that.

      No, we’re not seeing people in the streets. But we’re seeing a Republican president denounced by the head of the Chamber of Commerce in one of the wealthiest cities in America, albeit, like New York, one with so many other reasons to hate Trump.

      We’re seeing business leaders abandon him. And if their motives aren’t the purest, I don’t care. I’ve had enough of purity. Purity is Bernie Sanders. Purity is letting the Nazis win.

      • billbear1961

        I’ve posted your reply to me on Political Wire, RB!

  • Ben in Oakland

    You didn’t kill 6 million Jews, dear. The scum that were your spiritual ancestors did. Please give scummy credit where scummy credit is due. Though to be honest, I generally prefer scum. At least you can wash it off.

    I just have one question: what kind of people were your parents, that raised a son like you?

    • Reality.Bites

      Sometimes the parents are horrible. Sometimes they are not, like the father who publicly disowned his son for marching.

      It’s pointless. We learn nothing from their upbringing. It either confirms our existing conceptions or challenges them. Because just like us, just like everyone, Nazis come from all kinds of backgrounds – including gay, Jewish, Black and everyone else who they hate.

      The saddest thing about Nazis is they’re not rare. At all. Germany taught us that. We forgot.

  • AJ Drew

    Good morning everyone! I had a good sleep and woke up to a world still here and with no overnight DT tweets. It changes nothing else, but I’ll accept the happy moment while it lasts!

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/6c90094b79c3a1886079ba5a50376b0929889659ef00a4dfccccb187594ff5bc.gif

    • djcoastermark

      Yay ! Cold pizza for breakfast. Yummy. G’mornin btw.

      • ZRAinSWVA

        My favorite, now that the tomatoes are coming in fast and furious: grilled cheese and pesto sandwich, with Thick slices of beefsteak tomato… Yummy…and g’morning to you as well.

        • djcoastermark

          Ooo, aaaah, tomato sandwiches. Fresh picked tomatoes still warm from the sun. Orgasmic.

    • Lumpy Gaga

      That’s it. Show Donald how we eat pizza.

    • clay

      point for puppy– trying so hard.

      • BobSF_94117

        He’s taking a moment to imagine a whole world carpeted in pepperoni pizza. Ahhhhhhhhhhhh….

        • OH be still my heart! Pizza 4ver!!!!

    • -M-

      Pizza makes things better. 🍕

  • Chris Baker

    I guess Trump didn’t realize the Nazis were anti-Jew too. Trump’s son-in-law, grandchildren and daughter* are Jewish, so that makes the situation even more puzzling. These people want to exterminate Trump’s grandchildren and he equivocates on condemning neo-nazis directly.

    *not sure if neo-nazis consider a religious convert to Judaism a ‘real’ Jew, but better to be safe than sorry.

    • Lumpy Gaga

      Donald’s wedding gift was a walk-in oven.

    • Lumpy Gaga

      Crime is passed down through the Mother, so at least his grandchildren will be real felons.

      • Reality.Bites

        Wait – crime is passed down through Pence’s wife? Why hasn’t she been locked up? 🙂

        They’re covered either way, since paternal gramps is a convicted felon who’s done time.

    • clay

      They would consider Ivanka to be a race-traitor, like my mother, and her life would be forfeit.

  • Comixbear

    Truthfully, we are at the point that we are in the final days of mankind on Earth. Our country has too many people too far gone to ever turn it around. We are gone in a short amount of time.

  • Lumpy Gaga

    “President Trump, there’s a Benjamin Mountain Yahoo on line 2 for you?”

    • Jean-Marc in Canada

      Word Play Level: Expert.

      Well played.

  • Tomcat

    Suggestion for trump. Have all the confederate statues moved to Mar-A Lago and make it Tacky- Lago.

    • clay

      If we increase the mass on the surface . . . is the sinkhole there a karst collapse, or a wash out? Maybe we can get the whole thing to cave in.

      • Tomcat

        I am for that!

    • Mar-A Lago is already tacky if you ask me. But this will make it historically tacky.

  • Jean-Marc in Canada

    But please, do tell us again how both sides are the same….funny, that refrain has a familiar ring to it, where have I heard that kind of conflation before….hmmmm….wait….it will come to me….

  • SoCalGal20
    • ohbear1957

      WHAT THE FUCK! He calls during her daughter’s memorial service and has his propaganda ministers send three more messages to a grieving parent throughout the day. Outrageous! https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/6aa8c48a3c5d4083d63fd3394f014d24b436f03a864dd193eb128569ce0b56e8.jpg

      • SoCalGal20

        Right?! At least he didn’t show up and make it all about him.

        Also, that embroidery is my favorite thing!

    • zhera

      That poor woman. Losing her child in a terror attack and then hearing the things that tRump said. He’s supposed to be a president!

      He’s so cluelessly cruel, he’ll probably attack Susan Bro now, saying she’s fake or something.

      • SoCalGal20

        Oh I don’t know how cluelessly cruel he is. He’s just cruel and an awful human being.

  • Jean-Marc in Canada

    O/T Hey guys, so….about Esteban. Well, he’s back in ICU. Sigh. He’s developed bronchial pneumonia and it’s believed to have originated from another patient on the floor, though there is no certainty since, like myself, he’s had it before**. He’s doing well as can be expected and we caught it quickly. Sean (who is still here) heard him starting to cough while I was sleeping (we’ve been taking turns) and advised the nurses immediately. He’s already been given the appropriate antibiotics and due to his stroke, will remain in ICU until further notice. Again, I am incredibly thankful to Sean and the amazing Nurses, Doctors and Staff who have been helping through this. They expect a full recovery in about 7 – 10 days as it usually takes that long for the antibiotic (Clarithromycin) to work. While this does put a hold on getting him home, I’m comforted by the knowledge he’s in good hands. His brother Jorge is arriving today so Esteban will have even more family by his side. His mother wanted to come up but Esteban (yes, he’s awake, alert and lucid) said he didn’t want her to travel because it upsets her. Again, to all of you who have sent wonderful messages of support, we thank you.

    **Note: For those who may not know; once you get pneumonia, you become more susceptible to it and it usually reoccurs.

    • djcoastermark

      Yikes. Take care, all of you. It sounds like you have good people all around you.

      • Jean-Marc in Canada

        We do. The staff and volunteers have been great. Esteban is looking forward to seeing his brother, who will be picked up by my brother this afternoon. While concerning, we’re all in high spirits…especially since Esteban has now seen the latest GoT and Shadowhunters episodes. Very talkative.

    • Tomcat

      Aspirating on drink or food is number one cause of Pneumonia in elderly or weakened people.

      • Jean-Marc in Canada

        Absolutely, I’ve gone through it. It’s something the staff are mindful of. Thankfully, with us being permitted to be in ICU with him, he’s being watched.

        • Tomcat

          Thus the strong antibiotics.

          • Jean-Marc in Canada

            Yeah. Biaxin (Clarithromycin) is great, but it does take time.

          • Tomcat

            Last time my friend got Pneumonia it took several weeks to get back even after hospitalization. Tell your friend don’t watch comedy while eating, aspirate every time you laugh.

          • Jean-Marc in Canada

            Oh I know that. When I get pneumonia (usually just after Christmas, like clockwork) my husbotter is there to care for me. As for watching anything too funny, yeah, he knows. Which is why I’m bringing him more dramas and documentaries (he loves docs like I do) to pass the time.

            Just so you know, he’s my husband, in case you were not aware.

          • Tomcat

            The best for both of you. No I did not know. Stay strong.

          • Jean-Marc in Canada

            No worries and thank you again for the kindness and the kind words.

          • ohbear1957

            In the epic words of Paul McCartney:
            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a06714ac9a6d66bac0ce0e148637ffd07d0d26b9d507ed41b67b96609e3abd0c.jpg

            Is it ok to try to make you laugh?

          • Tomcat

            Ever notice that it is almost impossible NOT to take a big breath every time you pass food to your lips. It is part of the natural swallow function, and a curse for sick and elderly.
            I know, I aspirate almost every meal. I have to force cough numerous times to clear my lungs of crumbs, liquid etc.Well I have harped on this enough so I will let you be now. Have a better day today than yesterday and so on and so on and so on.

        • Tomcat

          I take care of an elderly man. (lifelong friend) He has to be very careful to clear anything in his mouth before trying to talk or he will aspirate. Sometimes he aspirates just from coughing and trying to get his breath. Regular breathing treatments for his lungs have helped.
          I know how hard this is on you to not be able to help completely, just be there. Hope things get better real fast for you guys.

    • Ninja0980

      Glad to hear he is doing well and our thoughts are with you in the days and months ahead.

      • Jean-Marc in Canada

        Thanks sweety. The good thing is he’s young (18 years my junior) and strong, so I have every confidence. He scolded me this morning for not being online as much as I should. “You love doing that and you shouldn’t stop just because I’m a little under the weather”…seriously, he considers what he’s going through to be a simple case of being “under the weather.” This is why I loves him.

        • Ninja0980

          Sounds like you have a great man who will be up and about in no time.

    • zhera

      ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥

    • Beagle

      Good to know Esteban is getting the medical care he needs. Get well soon!

  • Caliban M

    what kind of person boasts about killing six million jews, an act he himself never participated in and if he tried doing it he would be so freaked he would run home crying for mommy. it is real easy to boast about what you did not do. As we have seen with other wannabe nazi’s, they excel only at running away crying when real men and woman challange them.

    • Jean-Marc in Canada

      True enough. As we’ve seen from a few videos, these guys love to talk about how tough and ready they are to ‘go to war’, ‘kill some Jews’, ‘attack liberals’ yet when they come face to face with the reality, they run and hide like the cowards they truly are. In fact, I am loathe to call them men or even boys…these are slugs and maggots, if only because they have no spine.

  • That_Looks_Delicious

    Yep, This is the situation we are in.

    BTW, does this Barker guy realize it’s too late to enter the Alabama senate primary, and he would have to move to Alabama to run anyways? Sounds like a GOP campaign speech to me.

  • DaveMiller135

    For some reason, it really irks me that this American KKK NEO-Nazi wants to take credit for the outrages of the German Nazis. Sure, the Nazis hid themselves behind their uniforms and crowds, and the ridiculous, “I’m just doing my job,” but the KKK were still literally hiding themselves in face-covering sheets. Their greatest modern accomplishments amount to being allowed to march through various towns and pervert the First Amendment to the point of inciting violence. Point the least bit of light on them and they scurry away and live in hiding, like roaches. Try to get a count and no one knows; the sure sign of a group that doesn’t have the numbers they want you to think they have.

    Of course, that can backfire on you. My personal theory on why Trump polled so badly, but came in 2nd on election day, is that people were embarrassed to admit they were planning to vote for him. The same way that people tell pollsters they keep their TV tuned to PBS all night. I’ve never watched a full episode of “Keeping Up With The Cardassians.”

  • Jack

    I did a Neilsen online survey the other day. When it asked my race, I put “other.”

    I’m a Jew. According to Ancestry, I am 100% European.

    On the next census, I will not check “white,” I should live so long, kenahora.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a5dda7aeb6d9c6a7fe1dccc9bbad77585f5621c10405e4a9f75b998868f4387d.jpg

  • This is so disturbing on so many levels. But the one that bothers me the most is that anyone would be proud of any group that willfully, horrifically and at times gleefully killed 6 million Jews, and 5 million other people for various reasons. Not counting the death toll from his “total war” he waged in other countries.

    I think my anger circuit has burned out. Nowadays I feel only grief, despair and fear. We live between an army base and an airforce base and whenever there is any activity that isn’t usual, my heart freezes and my stomach contracts in fear. At this rate I can see myself totally unhooking from the digital world, its become such a drain.

  • NMNative

    I’d be horrified to think that anyone would equate me or my family to these lowlifes just because we happen to be white.
    I am a proud member of the rainbow family; all stripes, all orientations, all religions, or lack thereof, all colors, all genders, all are welcome at our table.
    Well, maybe not these guys..an exception is made for hate filled bigots.

  • Ross Ewage

    Christopher Barker…appearing nightly at Bob’s Country Bunker.

  • Marides48

    You meet the nicest people in KKK & NAZI groups?

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  • Roberto Alvarez-Perez

    What a despicable creature!!!
    Please force him to take a DNA test. He has to have some Jew or some black in him. Just like Hitler had a Jewish ancestry.