Mike Pence: I Stand With The President (But I Won’t Defend His Some Nazis Are “Fine People” Comment)

The Associated Press reports:

Vice President Mike Pence says he is standing by President Donald Trump in the aftermath of deadly violence at a white supremacist rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, but he declined Wednesday to defend the president’s statement from the day before that “both sides” were to blame.

Asked at a news conference whether he agreed with Trump that there were good people among the white supremacist demonstrators, and that there was blame to be had on both sides, Pence largely sidestepped the question.

“What happened in Charlottesville was a tragedy, and the president has been clear on this tragedy and so have I,” Pence said. “I spoke at length about this heartbreaking situation on Sunday night in Colombia, and I stand with the president, and I stand by those words.”

Pence also was asked and would not comment about Trump’s off-the-cuff comparison of Confederate generals Robert E. Lee and Stonewall Jackson with Founding Fathers George Washington and Thomas Jefferson, the first and third U.S. presidents.

  • Todd20036

    He’s wishy washy. He knows if he speaks out too harshly, Trump might fire him, but he knows if he is up for election and he comes out as pro-Nazi, he won’t win.
    The problem is, many of his views are already in line with the Nazis:
    anti LBGT
    Pro straight privilege
    pro white privilege.
    Pro Christian privilege.
    He really isn’t that much better than Trump, merely a bit saner.

    • Jonathan Smith

      serious question: can you actually fire the VP?

      • Jonathan Smith

        ‘’The vice president is the only person the president can’t fire,’’ Bob Wood said,
        you CAN find anything on the interwebs…..

        • Still can trade him off in 2020 should the shit show run that long.

          • Jonathan Smith

            I hear David Duke will be available……..

        • Harveyrabbit

          “you CAN find anything on the interwebs”

          Yes, yes you can. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/088bd33d0589fcfa4edf409c1cc6ed21fd630acba1c7211c306629b15135ecea.gif

          (I assume she just saw a closeup of tRump’s hair weave or something equally disgusting)

          • Lumpy Gaga

            “2 Girls 1 Cup”, but who’s counting?

        • Steverino

          He can’t be fired, but he certainly can resign, or the president can “ask for his resignation,” and likely without telling him beforehand, knowing Trump.

          I’m thinking Spiro Agnew, who resigned as Nixon’s VP in October, 1973, approximately ten months before Nixon himself resigned.

    • watchthewingnuts

      VP’s are elected… Trump can’t fire him.

    • bkmn

      Except Trump can’t fire him. He could make his life hell, but he can’t fire him.

      • Todd20036

        True. But Trump can fire Pence in the sense that in 2020 (If Trump lasts that long) he can pick a new VP to be on his ticket.

      • Carl

        Surely he can ask him to resign though, right?

        • Todd20036

          Of course he could, but don’t call bkmn Shirley.

      • Xiao Ai: The Social Gadfly

        Why should he get off any easier than us?

    • ben-andy

      The Vice President does not serve at the pleasure of the President. Only impeachment can remove him from office until the next time a President is sworn in. However, he might be shoved out into the cold, losing all influence in the White House and he might not be chosen to be the VP by the next Rethuglican nominee, whoever that is.

      • JIM W

        Frankly, I look for Pence to resign in a flourish of condemnations toward Trump. Then Pence will be off and declaring he will run for president in 2020. The R’s will line up to eat his shit.

        • Todd20036

          Pence won’t take that long a view though.

      • coram nobis

        That happened twice to FDR’s VPs. But he had to wait till the next Presidential convention to jettison each of them.

    • Uncle Mark

      Poor Pence. Can’t speak out against his boss, yet he can’t support his racist beliefs, lest he commit political suicide. He’s gonna need a wider stance than Larry Craig…and we all know how that worked out for him. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c5f733c001aee0fb58704e2a0806a60806c81cf4f3bc3f9f17062681ac4cb94d.gif https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ca751040d241b094b0ad3de020fdd496e2d055413a70b17ca4bfa1e4ad83532e.jpg

  • bkmn

    Dear VP Pence and the Evangelical court lackies –

    if you think Trump won’t toss you under the bus to save his ass you are sorely mistaken.
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/561e7c844b875f0d99c4e6f5392ea1f199a7f6da5c25c8109a3e1abe0f3f009e.jpg

    • The_Wretched

      I hate seeing “slut” used as a slur.

  • Smell of the ass you’re kissing starting to get to you yet Pencey. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a166cfd8f4d566f09856694bd6432b1f2dde6bec40c8fd73a5f3292d99b77464.jpg

    • bkmn
      • Uncle Mark

        Damn…now I want to force-feed lit torches to Nazis

        • JIM W

          Rectally!

          • Xiao Ai: The Social Gadfly

            Beat me to it.

          • Joseph Miceli

            Well, yes…but after that can we do something to them that they won’t like?

          • Tawreos

            If you feed them at both ends at the same time it cuts down on the screaming and crying.

          • BearEyes

            Human/tiki centipede

        • BearEyes

          Sideways

      • Carl

        We could have had taco trucks on every corner instead of Nazis.

      • Phil2u

        Mmmmm. Me gustan elotes.

  • Do Something Nice

    When we’re done picking apart Trump, he’s next.

    • bkmn

      I am pretty sure he is on Mueller’s radar already.

    • Xiao Ai: The Social Gadfly

      Never have I felt such great affinity for vultures.

  • AtticusP
    • Chris Gardner

      Truer words have never been spoken.

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  • FAEN

    We’ve been here before-“I can’t endorse him or his actions but I’ll vote for him.”

    • Gustav2

      And he will stand next to Trump with that Nancy looking at Reagan expression.

      • FAEN

        Exactly. His smirk just pisses me off.

    • Ninja0980

      Jeff Flake and other Republicans voted to confirm a man to the 6th Circuit who believes in birthrism and called gay people faggots.
      Actions speak louder then words.

    • M Jackson

      “We need something new. Why not just give the guy a chance?”

  • Jefe5084

    Just don’t say anything you dimwitted twit. We know where you stand on everything. You’re the Nazi Theocrat in a suit and tie.

    • Xiao Ai: The Social Gadfly

      I don’t know who you’re responding to. Blocking is a great thing. 😉

      • Dreaming Vertebrate

        Poster is addressing Pence.
        Friendly fire??

        • Xiao Ai: The Social Gadfly

          Maybe, I can’t say at this point since I don’t know who it is but, I don’t usually just block anyone.

          • Xiao Ai: The Social Gadfly

            Wait, yes friendly fire. I thought he was addressing someone who was just immediately above him but now they’re in a different position on the thread. My bad. 😀

  • Jonathan Smith
    • Tawreos

      Please tell me the ice cream is bacon flavored.

      • kareemachan

        🙁

        • Tawreos

          Sorry, the thought of it makes me laugh and I need all of that I can get right now.

          • Canadian Observer

            Gallows humour is still humour after all.

    • Derrick Johns

      LOL
      When I was little and stupid visiting down in south Georgia, I caught a little piggy. I turned around and there were a bunch of pigs coming after me. I dropped the little piggy. I ran into an electric wire that ran across the barnyard. I guess I got exactly what I deserved. A burned foreleg (shin). I don’t believe I’ve told anybody that story until today.

      • Jonathan Smith
        • Derrick Johns

          All right. Yes LOL At least this guy is standing up.

        • William

          I learned to test electric fences with the back of the fingers, palm down and raise the hand toward the wire. No telling if there was a reason for that.

          • jerry

            And it was better to not do that after a rain, or early in the morning when it was still damp with dew.

          • William

            When I was in first and second grade, us kids would see how long we could hold onto the electric fence wire at the neighbor’s pasture.

          • jerry

            Will Rogers: “There are three kinds of men. The ones that learn by readin’. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves.”

        • Cattleya1

          ‘There are 3 kinds of men: the one who learns by reading, the few who learn by observation, and the rest have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. – Roy Rogers

      • Phil2u

        Good story. My friend, Sandra, when she was a little girl, picked up a little piggy and clutched it tightly as she fled towards a fence chased by an angry sow. Unfortunately, she fell while crossing the fence and crushed the poor little thing. The next day at dinner (that’s the noon meal in the South), and being Sunday, there were two tiny fresh hams on a platter surrounded by baked apples and new potatoes.

        • Derrick Johns

          LOL Oh my. Maybe your cousin Sandra got her revenge. I’ve been chased by angry sows, but on public transit in Philadelphia, not down South.

        • Derrick Johns

          Oh, my, I’m still laughing. “two little tiny fresh hams” Well. That’s life…or a pig’s life.

      • jerry

        You remember in “Christmas Story” when Ralph was dared to stick his tongue on the pole? In my rural upbringing, they used to try tricking kids into pissing on an electric fence.

        • Derrick Johns

          That’s terrible.

      • boatboy_srq

        I once caught a little piggy in the South, too. Turned out I had to send him back to his husband.

        • Derrick Johns

          LOL

  • Skeptical_Inquirer

    You can’t thread the needle, Pence.

    • edrex

      and it’s easier to fit a camel through the eye of one, than pence.

  • JIM W

    Some say that D. Trump will throw anyone under the bus. I think that Pence is willfully crawling under the bus for Trump.

  • shellback

    If you support trump, YOU ARE A NAZI.

  • Carl

    Wrong answer.

    You either stand with or against Nazis. It’s hardly a groundbreaking idea.

  • Judas Peckerwood

    “’What happened in Charlottesville was a tragedy, and the president has been clear on this tragedy and so have I,’ Pence said.”

    Yeah, you’ve both been perfectly clear that you support nazis.

    • Carl

      He’s been so clear he had to try three times and still failed.

  • KnownDonorDad

    The KKK and Nazis were/are Christian in membership.

  • Reality.Bites

    And may you fall with him too.

  • Ninja0980

    Man who has waged war on women’s reproductive rights, voting rights, LGBT rights from his time as Congressman, Governor and now VP says what?

  • Jerry Kott

    “When people tell you who they are, believe them” Maya Angelou

  • Natty Enquirer

    At least he’s smart enough to keep his mouth shut, unlike his boss.

    • The_Wretched

      He has to or a woman might see his tongue.

      • kareemachan

        Is it forked?

        • Todd20036

          It’s like one of the “V” aliens.

  • Derrick Johns

    President Pence is evil, and Donald Trump is stupid.

    • Todd20036

      I’d say both are pretty evil.
      W is stupid.

    • Steverino

      Using apocalyptic terms, I refer to Trump as The Beast, The Man of Sin, and Pence as The False Prophet.

      • Ding ding! Now make that baby step, Christianity is the religion of the Biblical Beast.

  • kareemachan

    The Human Q-tip waffles again. Quelle surprise.

    Hey Mikey, go with you BFF to the SE Asian security conference tomorrow. Don’t let him start WWIII, okay? We’ll be lenient with you if you can manage this.

  • coram nobis

    It’s a very uncomfortable fence to straddle, isn’t it Mr. Vice-President?

  • Gigi
  • joe ho

    Trump just said he has no regrets about his comments yesterday.

  • Tomcat

    Hey trump have you got any more facts yet???

  • Dan Weagraff

    ….will you eve grow a spine? What is it with this guy? Is he going to brown nose trump until the very end?

    • Jefe5084

      Yes, cuz white jeebus.

  • Ninja0980

    Nope, I won’t defend his comments.
    Instead we’ll just stack the courts with people who will do just that and more.

    • billbear1961

      They’ve got to go, too–we can’t have a NAZI in the Oval Office, surrounded by NAZI aides, appointing NAZIS to the courts!

      The term “Trump judge” is going to become NOTORIOUS.

      There can be no circumstances under which a genuinely democratic society can accept governance at the hands of fascist GANGSTERS.

  • joe ho

    Question remains. How will Democrats mess up their chance to take major political advantage of this? They’ll find a way.

    • Joseph Miceli

      Every fucking time.

    • Ninja0980

      Just look at the courts.
      The fact Trump is filling seats Democrats could and should have filled angers me to no end.

      • Tomcat

        I guess there just isn’t enough bad news today so you guys drag out the old bash Democrats AGAIN.

      • Tomcat

        Do the research and you would know republicans kept us from putting in Obama’s picks for Judges.

    • Tomcat

      Problem is Democrats apparently have too many stupid people in the party, because they keep saying Democrats do nothing for people and Democrats have no message for the people. How about that?

      • joe ho

        Look how they failed to come up with a forceful, coordinated defense of Obamacare. Most voters were totally confused. That allowed the GOP narrative to prevail. Even now leading Dems appearing on cable fail to point out that the problems in Ocare were caused by the GOP failing to expand Medicaid everywhere and destroying risk corridors for insurers. Incredible that the DNC does not push a coordinated message. But that’s why Dems lose.

        • CottonBlimp

          In fairness, I don’t know how you beat Republican messaging. Someone comes up with some new idiotic catchphrase and all the toadies and sheep and repeating it the very next day.

          I’m already seeing scum repeating “alt-left” as if that’s a fucking thing that exists.

        • Tomcat

          Why don’t you run for something, you seem to have ALL the answers.

    • Tomcat

      Problem is Democrats apparently have too many stupid people in the party, because they keep saying Democrats do nothing for people and Democrats have no message. How about that?

    • KnownDonorDad

      Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

  • Cuberly

    I asked the same question after donnie’s fail on saturday. Where does this take the GOP, or the government? Is the GOP going to ignore the gravity of the situation, say, “yeah that was icky”…..”now about those tax cuts for the uber-wealthy”.

    So far it’s looking like this isn’t going away, it sure as hell shouldn’t. But what is the GOP going to do?

    • billbear1961

      People should be marching to DEMAND the Nazi’s removal from office.

      His Nazism isn’t the ONLY charge we can lay against him, but at the moment, until Mueller reveals what HE uncovers, it’s the most serious.

      There’s also an effort underway, a new one directly related to Charlottesville, to CENSURE him:

      https://jerroldnadler.house.gov/news/email/show.aspx?ID=KJIZX5WV4RH7ODUDEKKU466V7A

      • clay

        Anyone else thinking of going to the counter-protest of the Sept. 16th Trump march in DC?

  • Ninja0980
    • Gustav2
    • Joseph Miceli

      Who cares what that bitch has to say. He’s THE most despised man in Congress and I think his district is going to oust him next election.

      • Jonathan Smith
        • Steverino

          I think “conservative Christians” should more aptly be termed “neo-Hebrews.” The only parts of the Judeo-Christian Bible they read are the Hebrew Scriptures (aka the Old Testament), and the only parts of the Christian Bible they read are the Apocolypse (Revelation), a few passages of the Epistles taken out of literary and historical context, and otherwise completely ignore the four gospels, except maybe for John 3:16 and the “born again” passages (which in the original Koine Greek was rendered “born from above.” It was Nicodemus who misinterpreted that teaching as meaning being “born again”).

        • jerry

          They’re not too favorable on “giving unto Caesar what is Caesar’s” either.

      • William

        Ted’s district is the entire state of Texas. It would be nice to get rid of him.

    • JIM W

      Yes Ted and your father killed JFK. Remember that!

    • Tomcat

      Good thing it WAS unmarked bills or we might find some of it in politicians hands by now.

      • billbear1961

        Yes, I thought there had been a court ruling in their favour, as well.

    • Tomcat

      Good thing it was unmarked bills or we might find it in some republican politicians hands by now.

      • Gustav2

        You mean like the president?

        • -M-

          Trump Org and Ivanka did work with people who laundered money for the Republican Guard.

    • billbear1961

      Facts matter: the money returned to them was THEIRS.

      • Steverino

        He’s a typical right-wing Republican: cherry-picks facts to suit the narrative, and completely out of context.

        • billbear1961

          And God FORBID that the serious news media and the Democratic party should relentlessly point that out and SAVE this democracy from baldfaced LIARS and extremists!!

    • CB

      This is completely false. But beyond that, this achieve exactly WHAT? Anyone with a brain knows you’re lying, and for all the other mouth breathers, you’re just fanning their hatred of Obama. Shameful.

      • Gustav2

        What else does he have to campaign on other than Obama hate?

    • billbear1961

      Facts matter: your leader is a NAZI.

    • KnownDonorDad
    • Phil2u

      ‘Tis a deflection… the grandest of Republican strategies.

    • clay

      and the new president isn’t named Obama.

    • bambinoitaliano
      • beariac

        General Cattis!

      • Derrick Johns

        he’s a speed reader.

    • Danieruw

      So it’s not terrorism unless Iran funds it? Fuck you two times! With a shovel! I lived in TX! And voted against you! Is this how you try to “bring the country together”?
      And you are at least a Nazi apologist, Ted!

    • Cattleya1

      Ask his wife to be sure, but I’d bet good money his dick is not long enough.

  • Highmoremotel

    Pence is a racist
    Pence is a bigot
    Pence is a coward
    Pence is being blackmailed. (I have no proof but I know it to be true.)

    • Joseph Miceli

      How many times do the Republicans have to be told: stay away from Meth and male hookers!

      • William

        I bet Pence is like a dead walrus in bed.

        • Joseph Miceli

          But honey (whine!) I was the top last time !

  • billbear1961

    If you stand with Dump, you stand with him and his fellow NAZIS.

    There are two sides in this matter: Good vs. Nazi EVIL, Good vs. white supremacist EVIL, Good vs. hateful, bigoted, racist, murderous EVIL.

  • TheManicMechanic

    “Mother” told him prior that “we don’t like those dark people either.”

    • Lazycrockett

      Indiana has like one of the largest chapter of the KKK, so It’s not surprising.

      • MaryJOGrady

        Indiana was a major center of the second instar of the KKK in the 1920’s.

  • Cuberly
    • Gustav2

      Anyone here shocked Bannon was thrilled?

      • Lazycrockett

        That’s not even the worse, last night it was reported that the whole staff is aware of the racism that Drumpf talked bout. They were just hoping the public wouldn’t find out.

        • Gustav2

          And would keep doing the racist dirty work if no one found out.

        • Cuberly

          Wonder if Omarosa is in the room when those conversations get bandied about.

          • Tomcat

            Would it matter?

          • Cuberly

            Nope.

          • Reality.Bites

            Wonder if she’s ever in the room when anything important is being discussed.

          • clay

            Only when they need to “reach out” to get black people to show up for them.

        • The_Wretched

          Have they met Trump? The only way it wouldn’t come out is if they managed to keep him from being on camera or talking to anyone.

      • OdieDenCO

        I am. I would have bet anything his limbic system was shot, pickled, deceased, non-functioning.

    • KnownDonorDad

      The sooner the stain of Bannonism is removed from the White House, the better.

      • Lazycrockett

        just the WH?

        • KnownDonorDad

          Touché.

      • Cuberly

        Sure seems Donnie and Bannon are a package deal. All of the alt-righters should be out of the WH. Sure seems like that just isn’t going to happen.

      • geoffalnutt

        Right. There would be utter silence.

    • clay

      I’m seeing them dancing in a heavily choreographed extended music video, wearing scare make-up, during the 1980s.

  • Ninja0980
  • ohbear1957
  • Tomcat

    Site screwing up today, have to input comments several times or they don’t go in.

    • Tomcat

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    • clay

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  • MaryJOGrady

    My hypocrisy meter just broke.

    • ohbear1957

      His committed suicide.
      Self-electrocution, I believe.

    • William

      You have to go for quality when buying sensitive electronics.

      • MaryJOGrady

        Mine came bundled with my brain when I was born.

  • Rick Jackson

    The bumblebee bat has more balls than this guy Hell, my granny had more balls …

  • William

    Piss off you undead ghoul!

  • JWC

    hey Mikie twit sidestepping is not what this country needs Direct comments For or Against Wella’s dont cut it

  • Kenster999

    Such a good Christian!

    • geoffalnutt

      I’ve discovered there’s really no such thing. You’re either a good person or not.

  • Tom Mears

    I wonder who is coaching Donny on his history homework. I would have bet that he didn’t know enough about Washington or Jefferson to know they were slave owners until a few days ago.

    • clay

      Wellington and Jeffress, what?

    • -M-

      I could make a few guesses.

    • Steverino

      He likely thinks Washington sold Dred Scott to Jefferson. And Frederick Douglass told him so.

    • EdA

      The giveaway being the riff on “Did you know that …?” Maybe he and his deplorables had problems with fifth grade but most people probably didn’t.

  • geepster

    Anyone who chooses to “stand by” or support this monster is no less responsible for empowering neo-nazis to believe this horror would be just and good for America too. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c93ac6b042dc8828c48185af81e33c8b2563a9042c8913c121dea97dbbf86fee.jpg

  • Cackalaquiano

    Tie yourself as tight as you can to Trump. I want to see you sink with him.

  • -M-

    http://m.memegen.com/ibkkww.jpg
    How exactly does that work?

  • Mike_in_the_Tundra

    Pence is in all likelihood as big a racist as the orange one. The KKK was really big in Indiana.

  • Boy Elvis

    As Dan Savage once said, “I won’t endorse this dick, but I am going to suck it.”

  • But Mike, are you forgetting? The Nazi’s hate gays!

  • Oscarlating Wildely

    Favorite GoT quotation:

    “There’s no cure for being a c–“

  • clay

    Vice President Mike Pence says he is standing by President Donald Trump . . .

    because it’s easier to push him under the bus that way.

    • Karl Dubhe

      Hope so, but I’ll bet Trump would hang onto Pence as he falls.

      Lots of hope…

  • Len Ricci

    Seriously, you cabbage doll faced moron, get your head out of TRUMP’s ass and stand up for what is right. Stop standing behind your bible and your paycheck and grow a set. Why must all republicans put up with our juvenile in chief instead of calling him out on his pathetic lack of leadership. The whole white house is deplorable.

  • Gerry Fisher

    History will not be kind to you, waffling, spineless little man

  • geoffalnutt

    Wants to have it both ways, eh? Well ya can’t, asshole. What a perfect glimpse into the hell a Pence presidency would be.

  • anne marie in philly

    then YOU are just supporting the white racist alt-right movement, putz! why not be a REAL man and stand up to the orange shitgibbon and say RACISM/ALT-RIGHT IS WRONG! EVERY TIME!

  • GayOldLady

    You stand with Trump? You stand with a Nazi.

  • Thorn Spike

    Did he just shart? It looks like he just sharted. And not out of his mouth this time.

  • Michael R

    Faced with a moral dilemma …………………….. derp

  • shivadog

    “What happened in Charlottesville was a tragedy, and the president has been clear on this tragedy and so have I,”
    So you are both Nazi sympathizers. This should follow this asshole till his dying day. Pence might be less likely to start WW3, but domestically he is just as bad as Trump, maybe worse.

  • stanhope

    Pence is like a turd that won’t go down the toilet regardless of several flushes. It swirls and swirls and swirls leaving nasty marks on the toilet bowl.

  • normadesmond

    Gee, it kinda smells like santorum.

  • leastyebejudged

    This greaseweasle is our next President.

  • JCF

    Complicity.

    Disqualifying.

  • thatotherjean

    Mike Pence: ” I really need to split this right down the middle, because I can’t afford to alienate either religious Trump voters or alt-right/Nazi Trump voters if I run in 2020. So I’ll just spout neutral garbage and hope that nobody notices.”

  • andrew

    Poor Pence. He has an impossible job, trying to be a decent man and trying to be a loyal V.P. It can’t be done.

    • Phil2u

      I extend him no pity. If he didn’t really know what he was getting into, he knows it now and needs to deal with it.

  • Jean-Marc in Canada
  • Dale Snyder

    Oh no, you 400 pound sinful glutton. You are a vile, homophobic racist christian C$NT. Full Stop.

  • Robert Adams

    If you are ball-less I guess you need not worry about jeopardizing them when you try to straddle the fence.

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