GOP Sen. Jeff Flake Pens A Conservative Mea Culpa: Republicans Are To Blame For The Mess That Is Trump

GOP Sen. Jeff Flake goes to TOWN against Trump in an op-ed published tonight by Politico. An excerpt:

Who could blame the people who felt abandoned and ignored by the major parties for reaching in despair for a candidate who offered oversimplified answers to infinitely complex questions and managed to entertain them in the process? With hindsight, it is clear that we all but ensured the rise of Donald Trump.

I will let the liberals answer for their own sins in this regard. (There are many.) But we conservatives mocked Barack Obama’s failure to deliver on his pledge to change the tone in Washington even as we worked to assist with that failure.

It was we conservatives who, upon Obama’s election, stated that our No. 1 priority was not advancing a conservative policy agenda but making Obama a one-term president—the corollary to this binary thinking being that his failure would be our success and the fortunes of the citizenry would presumably be sorted out in the meantime.

It was we conservatives who were largely silent when the most egregious and sustained attacks on Obama’s legitimacy were leveled by marginal figures who would later be embraced and legitimized by far too many of us.

For a conservative, that’s an awfully bitter pill to swallow. So as I layered in my defense mechanisms, I even found myself saying things like, “If I took the time to respond to every presiden­tial tweet, there would be little time for anything else.” Given the volume and velocity of tweets from both the Trump campaign and then the White House, this was certainly true.

But it was also a monumental dodge. It would be like Noah saying, “If I spent all my time obsessing about the coming flood, there would be little time for anything else.” At a certain point, if one is being honest, the flood becomes the thing that is most worthy of attention. At a certain point, it might be time to build an ark.

You’ll want to read the entire thing. Not incidentally, Flake is one of the GOP Senators most at risk of losing his seat next year.

  • IAMBOWLINGGREEN

    Flake News.

    • JCF

      Points!

  • deaconrta

    He’s a likely endangered republican in a state we democrats intend to turn blue.

    • Xiao Ai: The Social Gadfly

      No offense, but I’ve watched that show before. Everyone RAVED about it and in the end,… we are still stuck with a Rethuglican dominated, state legislature. Where is the money????

      • That_Looks_Delicious

        It’s coming, but slowly. The GOP’s base in Arizona and Texas is slowly dying off.
        2004: Bush won AZ by 10 points
        2008: McCain won AZ by 8.5 points
        2012: Romney won AZ by 9 points
        2016: Trump won AZ by only 3.5 points

        If only people under 40 had voted in the last election, Clinton would have won both Texas and Arizona (Interestingly, this is not true for much of the Midwest, Appalachia or Maine). This is especially notable because Hillary Clinton was not a candidate that connected especially well with millenials for a Democrat.

        https://thumbs.mic.com/MWU5YjY4YjUyNiMvSGpxMExMSW5ENTZEbXF5MlFmS253OGJqU0Y4PS84NHgxNTY6MTQ1Mng4NTMvODAweDQ1MC9maWx0ZXJzOmZvcm1hdChqcGVnKTpxdWFsaXR5KDgwKS9odHRwczovL3MzLmFtYXpvbmF3cy5jb20vcG9saWN5bWljLWltYWdlcy9jZm9tOWdoZmV0ZW01a3FteGFsYnJ5YjJ4eWQ2dmI2NjVoMHJzdGpuNWxvbGN1bDdrZDdlYnFtcXVuY2ZweWF3LmpwZw.jpg

        • Xiao Ai: The Social Gadfly

          The old ones keep moving here because of what they thought was the weather. Then they vote shitty. We have a constant influx of the old and nasty. They die but, they keep on coming.

          • Galvestonian

            I’m 74 and a ‘yellow dog’ Democrat – I moved to Texas 10 years ago from Philly – yes !!! … for the friggin’ weather and the fact that it’s a semi-tropical paradise. Just couldn’t take that damn half a year of winter anymore. Here winter is around 6 weeks long (average winter temp is 62.5 degrees).
            NOTE: I do not vote ‘shitty’ – I vote consistently Democratic Party – no matter what.

          • Xiao Ai: The Social Gadfly

            The climate’s changing though. And because of that the macro and micro environments are a changin. It might be the thing that tips us elders over the edge healthwise. We certainly won’t outrun it.

      • deaconrta

        None taken. I’m part of a group of about 150 people from California who went to Nevada in 2008, 2012 and 2016. We knocked on doors, drove people to vote and registered people like crazy. We democrats retook both houses of the Nevada legislatures in 2016 and elected the first woman Latina (Sen. Cortez Masto) to retain Sen Reid’s seat in democratic hands. It can be done. I don’t know where the money is, but I do know where the will is. Right now, we have been meeting every month since January and we are targeting 7 vulnerable rethugs in Ca for 2018. We are already walking their district, talking to voters in those districts, registering new voters and planning to do whatever we can to take back the house in 2018. I’m hoping what we did in Nevada (and Colorado) can be replicated in Arizona and then Texas.

        • bkmn

          Thank you for the efforts and if you are in contact with anyone else who helped let them know we really appreciate what all of you did.

      • Christopher

        Kinda like Geraldo Rivera with Al Capone’s vault.

    • That_Looks_Delicious

      He’s probably the second-most endangered Republican next year, after Heller. Although Cruz is not looking so good in the polls either. But on the Democratic side, if Claire McCaskill manages to keep her seat again, she’ll be the luckiest politician in America.

    • JCF
  • bkmn

    You left out the parts about how often you vote in support of what he wants and the fact that GOP leadership is behind him 100%.

  • Lazycrockett

    Someone is gonna get tweeted.

  • Ragnar Lothbrok

    Oh, thoughts and concerns. Thanks so fucking much.

  • Hanwi

    His voting record tells a different story. This is just a cheap stunt to sell his book.

    • zhera

      He probably doesn’t mind the policy all that much. It’s the constant embarassment on an international level that’s bothering him (I guess).

      • iambu

        I’m getting to a Whatever It Takes point on that one. The more conservatives who turn on him – for whatever reason – the faster we can kick the fucker out of the WH.

    • kaydenpat

      Yes. Very disappointed to see that this is from an excerpt in his latest screed. Shame.

    • Boy Elvis

      Yep. Looking for a brainless toad to vote against Obamacare every time? Flake is your guy.

      It’s great that he spoke up against Trump, sure, but he’s a political coward and a conniver and he can go fuck himself.

  • Cackalaquiano

    No. Too little, way too late.

  • Stev84

    I stopped reading when he started with bothsiderism right away

  • coram nobis

    Why, Jeff, if you sold your soul for the world, you’d gain nothing. But for Obamacare repeal?

    (appropriated from A Man For All Seasons)

  • Sam_Handwich

    who the hell is opposing Flake? is it a viable Dem?

    • Blake J Butler

      Deedra Abboud, a muslim attorney. So far that is.

    • thom

      Yes, Abboud, who has been facing a lot of hate for being a Muslim.
      Flake condemned the attacks pretty forcibly.
      I think he will win easily, tbh

      • That_Looks_Delicious

        Why don’t the Dems run Greg Stanton? I think he could beat Flake.

  • DisqusD37

    He sound like a wife-beater who sounds so fracking sincere that he’ll never do it again. Yeah, right.

  • RJ Bone

    Translation: Liberals are horrible, horrible people and should answer for all the evil in the world, because their sins are so many and are going to destroy us all!!!!1111 Horrible horrible! Sad *foams at mouth*

    (also we’re maybe kinda sorry for kinda being meany jerks and maybe if we act like we apologize people might actually buy it)

  • Blake J Butler

    I’m iffy about his opponent in the fall though. I’m not sure a muslim attorney woman, can defeat him even with strong backing.

    Since no one else has declared and shes already running, i would assume Deedra Abboud will be the democratic nominee. I do not think it would be an issue at all given the democratic party’s non prescence of islamaphobia in comparison to the republicans who are the antithesis.

  • coram nobis

    “You tell me mistakes
    Are part of being young
    But that don’t right
    The wrong that’s been done …”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBkGdbci-wM

  • KnownDonorDad

    But we conservatives mocked Barack Obama’s failure to deliver on his pledge to change the tone in Washington

    Well, the tone has certainly changed….

  • KnownDonorDad

    To adapt the old Polish proverb, “Your circus, your monkey.”

    • zhera

      Or, Your circus, your elephant shit.

      • Stephen Elliot Phillips

        How about
        “you took the shit. The smell is all yours”

  • Ross

    WTF?????????

    Who could blame the people who felt abandoned and ignored by the major parties for reaching in despair for…Trump?

    Who could blame them?

    I BLAME THEM!

    I blame all 63 million asswipes who voted for a man PROFOUNDLY unqualified, PROFOUNDLY idiotic, and PROFOUNDLY disgusting.

    • Proud MOFO Beaner (bkb)

      PREACH

    • Hank
      • kaydenpat

        Locks!! He looks so good there!

    • thom

      Right. And I bet he feels that way too. But he needs a majority of Trump voters to vote for him

    • Stubenville

      Actually I do understand their motivation. They just didn’t think it through. I believe the average American justifiably thinks that the deck is stacked against them in favor of big money, and they really want change. Maybe getting Wall Streeters and corporations to pay their fair share of taxes as a start?

      Unfortunately Cheetolini was the huckster who sold them cases of snake oil. The government does not work like a business and being a successful businessman is actually an impediment to being President; you can’t fire Congress.

      All that said, they would have been far better off with Bernie Sanders, but Cheetolini was a better communicator.

      • That_Looks_Delicious

        It’s less logical and more emotional than even that. I think it’s just spite and hate. Most Trump voters deeply, intensely resent what they think of as “New York City”, “San Francisco”, “Washington”, “Hollywood” and everybody that they don’t consider white. They did this out of spite. That’s what it comes down to.

        • Chucktech

          And spite goes hand in hand, very amicably, with stupidity.

        • j.martindale

          It was a whole big pot of different motivations: racist, homophobic, low income/unemployables, libertarian, rich, economic conservatives, evangelicals, nazis…whatever. “Deplorables” works pretty well.

        • trog

          totally. Slate has a great Q&A today about how rural folk are led to believe they’re getting screwed over by city people (even though rural areas get more tax $$$). Our billionaire overlords have done a great job of deflecting blame to minorities and those in cities.

          http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/interrogation/2017/08/what_rural_wisconsin_voters_think_of_donald_trump.html

      • JT

        Of course, the deck is stacked against them. They had ample opportunity to get behind Occupy Wall Street and then Obama, but they were too fucking stupid, racist, and Fux-gullible. They did absolutely the worst thing for their own interests.

      • justmeeeee

        Right-o. Thanks, DWS!

      • RemusL

        Better communicator? Surely you jest!
        He’s a better con artist. I’ll give him that.

        • Better? A hell of a lot more “communication” than anyone running at the time. 24/7 shit gibbon, let’s entertain, not inform.

      • lymis

        If you think the game is stacked against you in favor of Big Money, you look for a Jimmy Carter, not a Donald Trump.

        Even if you honestly believed that politics was the problem and you needed a fresh approach from a successful businessman with integrity, you’d look for an actual successful businessman with integrity, and then insist that he surround himself with the actual best advisors he could get.

        Whatever else he may or may be, Donald Trump is not a successful businessman.

        Even if you appreciate someone who speaks his mind and tells it like it is, you pay attention to whether he’s telling anything resembling the truth and is actually remotely aware of “how it is” – not someone who never pays his bills and spent nearly a decade buying into bullshit conspiracy theories.

        • DonnaLee

          That’s the part that got me, that he was able to pitch himself as a good businessman. I read things decades ago which said he was not, and the stories which came out during the campaign were horrible. I just don’t understand why they were not believed. They were about individuals and small businesses getting screwed by him, and in many cases winning against him! I mean THOUSANDS of lawsuits??

      • Galvestonian

        …you mean better ‘bullshitter’ … ’cause he doesn’t communicate he throws manure and hopes it sticks.

    • safari
      • another_steve

        Ohmigod is that a very young Benedict Cumberbatch?!?

    • safari

      I hold a very dim view of many in this nation.

      • Galvestonian

        DIM VIEW ??? Hell, it’s like ‘totally black’. All I can think of is WWII and black out curtains in every room – no lights showing at all.

    • Ninja0980

      And the folks who stayed home or voted third party with the BS both parties are the same or that Democrats needed to be taught a lesson/purity etc.

    • JT
      • Todd20036

        What a “moran”

        • Daveed_WOW

          He needs to grow a brian.

        • bzrd

          he’s listening to too much bot-radio filing his head with bot flies

          • liondon#iamnotatraitor

            It makes him feel special that’s why. Instead of feeding into the fear he could get off his ass and make his community better.. be a big brother, volunteer at the hospital… the opportunities are endless. He is sadly typical.

          • Xiao Ai: The Social Gadfly

            I’m torn. Do we really want these people around impressionable children?

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        • cleos_mom

          A US Senator from Kansas.

      • Nic Peterson

        Brought to you by racial purity.

    • zhera

      With hindsight, it is clear that we all but ensured the rise of Donald Trump.

      We all, Flake? Own your goddamn monster and don’t shift the blame over on ‘we all’.

      • Craig Howell

        Or as Tonto once famously asked the Lone Ranger: “What you mean ‘we,” Kimosabee?”

      • Stephen Elliot Phillips

        yeah they cant just blame themselves for the monster they created. Somehow because we dems elected a black man Its at least 50% our fault

    • Todd20036

      Right? if the GOP wants to absolve themselves, ITMFA

      • thom

        Why would they? If they impeach him we will all still rail against them. It won’t absolve them on the left. It’ll anger the base.
        In the meantime they can put up with the manchild in office for a few years while seating conservative judges. Which will do more to advance their worldview than any legislative actions

        • Stephen Elliot Phillips

          and somehow federalist judges, gutting the EPA, pulling out of the paris accords, and disenfranchising liberal voters was lost on the hard left.

          • thom

            Yep

          • RoFaWh

            The Bolsheviks were “hard left” and the Russian Revolution they put into motion killed a nascent democracy.

    • Stephen Elliot Phillips

      Profoundly bigoted and profoundly sexist.
      Most of trumps voters are racist. full stop.

    • teeveedub

      Flake is the first in what will likely become a long line of Republicans who attempt to diagnose the illness while simultaneously distancing themselves from the outcomes of their individual actions. In this article, he characterizes eight years of unprecedented obstruction as “robustly assert[ing] our constitutional prerogatives as a co-equal branch of government.” Sorry, Jeffy. Not buying it.

      The GOP created this mess. The GOP has been laying the foundation, through its policies, its voting record, and its de facto media arms (Fox News, Rush Limbaugh, etc.), for the kind of dumbed-down populace that put #Dolt45 in office.

      You broke it, you pay for it.

      P.S. He’s got a book to sell to the low-info hordes, so that kinda puts all of his current rhetoric in context.

      • Dot Beech

        He has an interesting challenge there, selling a book to a constituency that is functionally illiterate. There are a few customers out there, but maybe not enough to pay for the printing and distribution.

      • NMNative

        And, let us not forget, that Flake pretty much went right along with all of the current trump/party line republican shit that’s been happening. Up to, and including, voting for the “skinny” repeal of the AHCA. He’s no independent, or, innocent.

        • bandanajack

          and, he has a gay son…

    • Carl

      I’m getting tired of being told I have to take the blame for all of this and must tip toe around the feelings of Trump voters, write-in voters, and non-voters.

      I actually tried to stop this.

      • DonnaLee

        I did too, but entirely too much of PA thought a total novice would be better in office than a seasoned professional.

    • David in Palm Springs

      I blame them every single day for destroying our country. I will never forgive them.

    • narutomania

      Your ‘WTF’ needs to be in the biggest most capitalest letters ever, Ross. WTF, indeed. And I’m right there with you in outrage at the suggestion that the idiots who spent 8 years hating on Obama somehow felt ignored and abandoned, so that’s how Drumpf got elected. Hell, no.

    • Do Something Nice

      Keep it up and we will lose again. Even Michael Moore says that a majority of those who voted for Trump are fans of his, but they felt so desperate that for them, a Trump vote was the equivalent of tossing a Molotov cocktail.

      The middle class is shrinking, mostly due to government policy. That needs to change. Democrats need to put forth a thoughtful plan for change.

    • Rambie

      The GOP’ers will try to sweep Trump under the run and pretend they had nothing to do with creating him.

    • lymis

      I blame them too, but that’s not what he said.

      He asked “who could blame the people who felt abandoned and betrayed” when the PARTY sold it’s soul and embraced Trump because he was a popular shit-show rather than someone who could actually govern.

      Basically, he’s admitting that the people who not only stood by and let this happen when they could have worked against it, but also actively worked for it, betrayed themselves, their own principles, and the people they were pretending to represent.

      There is a lot of room for blame and outrage. This piece, however, (assuming it’s both genuine and backed up with actual action) is an important one – and one that a hell of a lot more Republicans need to buy into.

      • Ross

        You wrote: “but that’s not what he said.”

        My quote was accurate. He did not state that only the Republicans party is the problem, but the “major parties”.

  • coram nobis
  • thom

    Wow! I think this will carry weight. He has given others an oppurtunity to speak out now.
    Also, I agree with almost everything he says

  • Hank

    “It was we conservatives who, upon Obama’s election, stated that our No. 1 priority was not advancing a conservative policy agenda but making Obama a one-term president—”
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b7d360fe96338767b050cb8e43c32b024947b9cb317b4ca88947abd405787451.jpg

  • Blake J Butler

    Capture it for ads and run it, i’m sure the fruitcake doctor will be running ads trying to oust him for the primary.

  • thom

    Important that he’s up for reelection. It means his polling, his focus groups, his team have decided this is a winning issue

  • Natty Enquirer
    • JT

      That can’t be Drumpf. His peepee is too big.

  • danolgb

    “This article has been excerpted from his new book, Conscience of a Conservative. Excerpted by permission of Random House.”

    Oh wait.. it’s from his new book. He’s making money off this. That makes it make more sense. This is an ad.

    • JT

      Stealing from Barry Goldwater, eh?

      A more apt title would be “The Semi-Consciousness of a Conservative.”

      • JCF

        Or “The Con-Job of a Conservative”!

    • porsupah

      “Conscience of a Conservative”

      – so, a pamphlet, then?

    • prixator

      The first invisible book!

  • Stubenville

    Crocodile tears. This asshat was perfectly fine voting last week to strip 465,000 of his constituents of health insurance.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8162e3277bf102a60925a0e4a7413413d9935ef95038e61986832b8d17c7c10a.gif

    • Adam King

      When they announce they’re leaving the Republican Party and caucusing with the Democrats I’ll listen. Until then it’s all empty, disgusting, hypocritical mouth noises.

  • HZ81

    Too. Late. Fuck. Face.

    Let’s stop applauding these assholes when they finally do one good thing, too.

  • It’s worth noting that in Arizona, Donald’s approval rating is under water.

    • Hank

      May Flake and every other Rethuglican DROWN with him!!!!

    • thom

      Yep, and I’ll be in the minority here. But an emboldened Republican who has just won reelection by running against Trump will do more to hinder Trump than a Dem will.

    • JCF

      Minus 9!

  • Ninja0980

    https://twitter.com/ZoeTillman/status/892145450391924738?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fdisqus.com%2Fby%2FNinja0980%2F
    See this story Jeff?
    This is why Republicans were willing to let someone like Trump into office and like the rest of your party, you have voted yes on every far right creep Trump AKA Pence has put forward.
    You will continue to do so so spare me this bullshit over Republican angst.
    You wanted Trump for judges, the country and world be damned.

    • Todd20036

      Health care is fine. It’s Trump’s screwing up of it that collapsed.

  • Mike C

    He’s just hoping history will judge him by this book and not that he votes to support Trump policies and nominees 95% of the time.

  • JT

    Flake: We’re sorry we saddled you with a demented fascist, but … it’s all Obama’s fault for not doing what we said!

    • thom

      What? He clearly said it was conservatives fault too. Drawing a clear line from the Republicans treatment of Obama to Trumps ascendancy

      • JT

        Read what he says! Open your fucking eyes!

        Who could blame the people who felt abandoned and ignored by the major parties for reaching in despair for a candidate who offered
        oversimplified answers to infinitely complex questions and managed to entertain them in the process? With hindsight, it is clear that we all but ensured the rise of Donald Trump.

        I will let the liberals answer for their own sins in this regard. (There are many.)

        • thom

          Lol. I read that.
          But that was one line, followed by a couple paragraphs blaming conservatives.
          Far from saying its all Obamas fault

          • JT

            Right. One line. He’s blaming Obama and liberals for not doing what the Rethugs wanted! Don’t you get it????

          • thom

            I don’t get you saying that he blamed Obama only, when he certainly didn’t

          • JT

            You’re still not getting it. He’s saying that they were prompted to go as far as they did because of the failures of Obama and the liberals. If only the Dems had been more like them, maybe they wouldn’t have gone as far as they did.

          • thom

            I didn’t see that in any of this article. But, OK

          • JT

            It’s like the maniac who just put his wife in the hospital saying, “Yeah, I regret getting so angry, but she shouldn’t have set me off with that look!”

  • Larry Lautzenheiser

    FIRE HIM anyway!

  • DesertSun59

    House members are completely safe. Consequently, not one of them will make a complaint.

  • thom

    Nate Silver:
    “re: Flake. There are a lot more signs of Congress pushing back on Trump now than there were a couple months ago.”
    https://t.co/PuV9CA0E1E

    • Adam King

      We need a hell of a lot more than “signs.”

    • Adam King

      Ha ha ha ha ha!

  • Jean-Marc in Canada

    The name is Flake, enough said.

  • Gregory Mullins

    Still won’t keep me from attempting to move to either Tucson or Flagstaff and vote his ass out next year. Just need a sponsor.

    • RoFaWh

      I have friends who take a winter vacation in Tucson every year. They like it a lot, and they’re people whose opinions are entirely trustworthy.

      Maedythe likes thrift stores and says the ones in Tucson are pretty good, if that’s something that interests you.

  • JerryRich

    Which is the most appropriate cliché?
    No s**t, Sherlock
    or
    Thank you, Captain Obvious?

    • Treant

      “Smooth move, Ex-Lax.”

  • Ninja0980

    You obstructed Obama along with the rest of the Republicans to ensure he couldn’t get anything done to help the economy.
    Go fuck yourself with both sides Flake.

  • Keith D Plane

    Fuck this asshole! I live in AZ and he is a dickwad!

    • thom

      Good points 🙂

    • Cackalaquiano

      But how do you REALLY feel 😉

      • Todd20036

        My guess? Keith really does not feel like fucking that particular asshole.

  • Bill Evans

    My god, a Republican who tells the truth. Good man.

  • Mike

    Screw Flake for blaming liberals for Republicans’ abominations, as always. He may take his mea culpa and shove it. It’s worthless. Is there a dicey election coming up for Jeff? I hope he is crushed by one of those dastardly liberals he pretends to be victimized by.

    • thom

      He will almost certainly win, be a lot.
      This will probably help.

  • safari
    • Adam King

      Shit, the fucking “Olympics.” An ongoing capitalist scam.

      • Adam King

        I wonder if they’ll “honor” that Caitlyn Jenner person. She lives around there, doesn’t she?

        • Blake J Butler

          I think somewhere in Malibu. I try not to pay so much attention to the second in command American Horror Story that is Caitlyn Jenner and the Kardashians.

          Next to well, the orange shitgibbon that comes first.

      • Skeptical_Inquirer

        I just think they should hold the Olympics permanently in Greece for the summer and Vancouver for the winter because otherwise it’s a freaking money pit to constantly move it around.

  • bambinoitaliano

    What a flake!

  • another_steve

    Rats. Titanic.

    Sinking.

    • thom

      One can only hope!

      • another_steve

        Our queer sisters and brothers reading here (as well as our beautiful straight allies) deserve something of beauty.

        And here it is.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNyKDI9pn0Q

        • RoFaWh
          • another_steve

            Gorgeous. Sumptuous. Thanks, RoFaWh.

            One of the classical pieces that most people will recognize but be unable to identify.

          • ClevelandJim

            Oooooo, that really posh version of Never Gonna Fall In Love Again by Eric Carmen, Love it! 😉
            (I adore this movement, so lush)

          • another_steve

            Lol.

            Here in the Baltimore area we have a classical music radio station that on Sunday nights has a segment called “Music from the Movies.” They play classical pieces that have been used in popular movies.

            Amazing how we sometimes fail to “register” just what it is we’re listening to. 😉

          • Mike_in_the_Tundra

            I’m a pushover for Rachmaninov. Hubby knows it, and he better be ready to cuddle.

          • teeveedub

            Thanks. I needed that.

    • perversatile

      That time KeKe was talking about Rose and we all went ”Mmm huh”. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFqFwXPDC48

  • j.martindale

    Liberal sins my fucking ass. The other side does it too is pure CRAP. The Democrats offered Hillary Clinton who argued issues. The prick the Republicans put forward was a petty mobster, sham, fraud who ripped people off and was only around because of his rich father. Shove your bullshit about Democratic “sins,” asshole. You have created a fucking monster who is destroying our government, day after day.

    • RoFaWh

      “a petty mobster, sham, fraud who ripped people off and was only around because of his rich father”

      Bravo!

      Now tell that to the people who voted for Drumpfy-boy in North Dakota and Montana and who now stand to lose their once-a-day passenger rail service (in each direction). The “Empire Builder” train is just about those folks’ only link with the outside world; some of them live over two hundred miles from the nearest interstate highway., though at least the roads are paved.

      • bzrd

        well, you know, it’s more important to bomb foreigners that to supply transportation for our own

      • UrsusArctos

        Were paved. ND has done a LOT of “unpaving”. Bismarck has more gravel roads than paved.
        http://www.myndnow.com/news/bismarck-news/gravel-road-bootcamp/699436752

      • Skeptical_Inquirer

        Why does nobody ever tell THEM that they made the choice to live out in the middle of nowhere and hey, why should everybody have to subsidize their moochy choices? (I’m actually for public transportation, I just loathe it when people don’t acknowledge that it’s only because of the big bad government & tax money from “da coastal eleets” that this program exists)

        • RoFaWh

          My impression, admittedly based on very little evidence, is that the residents of such places only live there because that’s where they’ve always lived.

          Very similar, in a way, to the many “farmers” who are only farmers because their fathers were. By way of contrast, around here (Victoria, BC) some farming families of Dutch descent still send their sons to the Netherlands to attend agricultural college.

          As for flyover country, those residents with get up and go got up and went a long time ago.

    • lymis

      Hillary wasn’t perfect.

      Trump… words fail.

  • Treant

    (Tugs sleeve) Take the liberal “responsibility” for Trump and shove it up your ass, widthwise. You voted for this in your primaries. You voted for this in the election. I voted for the sane stateswoman. This is your fucking fault.

    • JCF

      “I voted for the sane stateswoman.”

      PREEEEEEEEEEACH!!!!!

  • Coooooooold
    https://twitter.com/SteveKopack/status/892164452845531137
    Just like the best way to serve up a dish of revenge.

    • zhera

      My mum’s visiting, and we were watching the news. The Schmuck’s face came on screen, the story of his firing being told.

      Oh, how we laughed. Then I told my mum how his wife left him while 9 months pregnant, and the baby being born and he weren’t there because BIG JERB IN D.C.! All for nothing.

      Then we laughed some more.

      • Adam King

        Your mom deserves an extra hug.

        • zhera

          Considering a few facts about my father, you’re damn right! The Schmuck’s story is… familiar.

    • Prost Seattle

      I thought it was best served cold, not fresh from deep fat fryer.

  • margaretpoa

    Well, Mr. Flake, the only “sin” I see on the liberal side was how our leadership didn’t call out conservative lies and political nihilism for what it was decades ago. The only responsibility we liberals have in this situation is our failure to push back strongly enough and harshly enough. We let you set the tone on the Sunday political theater, we allowed you to get away with redefining reality as an expedient to avoid being distracted from an overarching point, we allowed you to define the terms and conditions of the conversation. In short, we are guilty of giving you too much respect. You aren’t honest brokers and haven’t been since the 1970s. Your precious ideology is the most important thing to you, reality be damned. And we should have pointed that out too, instead of letting you get away with telling lies and then daring us to call you a liar.

    “Sins”? Screw you. The only sin I’ll cop to is neglect and too much forbearance.

    • -M-

      + infinity

    • Todd20036

      The only sin I’ll cop to is LUST.

      And not with any Trump or even any Trumpanzee.

    • Treant

      “Abstraction?” Sessions asked in return. “This is pretty abstract, yes. No more questions. Good day.”

    • DaddyRay

      The really don’t think there will be consequences

      • Bryan

        Like a true authoritarian kleptocracy!

        • RoFaWh

          Just wait until Drumpfy-boy is impeached and then convicted by the Senate — and refuses to go.

      • TampaDink

        He’s never had to face them before, with the exception of wife #1 taking him to the cleaners over his dating would-be #2.

        • bzrd

          and he said such nice things about #2 just before he married her, “vaginas are so expensive.” sounds like true love to me

          • TampaDink

            I believe that he is also on the record (maybe from one of his “own” books…that Marla was given an ultimatum. “Abort the little bastard or no wedding until after you get your figure back!”

    • thom

      Woah! Goodbye, plausible deniability

    • IAMBOWLINGGREEN

      The gun is smokin’

    • Flying home from Germany on July 8 aboard Air Force One, Trump personally dictated a statement in which Trump Jr. said he and the Russian lawyer had “primarily discussed a program about the adoption of Russian children” when they met in June 2016, according to multiple people with knowledge of the deliberations. The statement, issued to the New York Times as it prepared a story, emphasized that the subject of the meeting was “not a campaign issue at the time.”

      The claims were later shown to be misleading.

      No, the claims were later shown to be complete lies.

      Although misleading the public or the press is not a crime, advisers to Trump and his family told The Washington Post that they fear any indication that Trump was seeking to hide information about contacts between his campaign and Russians almost inevitably would draw additional scrutiny from Mueller.

      Trump, they say, is increasingly acting as his own lawyer, strategist and publicist, often disregarding the recommendations of the professionals he has hired.

      “He refuses to sit still,” the presidential adviser said. “He doesn’t think he’s in any legal jeopardy, so he really views this as a political problem he is going to solve by himself.”

      He is very, very mistaken.

      • RoFaWh

        You nasty leftist you, don’t you know President Donald Jammerflatzen Drumpfy has the best genes?

        He’s more expert in every field than the usually acknowledged experts, including law, political strategy, and publicity.

        • Adam King

          And autofellatio.

          • Karl Dubhe

            You know that when Trump heard that term, he tried to suck a car.

      • Todd20036

        WaPo reported this. Trump is even trying to cover up for his son

        • Sporkfighter

          He doesn’t want Jr. deposed under oath.

      • William

        ” …is increasingly acting as his own lawyer, strategist and publicist,
        often disregarding the recommendations of the professionals he has
        hired.”

        Remind you of anyone?

        https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/933ece75ba13612f4e822e564c6aedafcb8777f9c40195e6243af9d81f790550.jpg

    • Refresher about the genesis of this: NYT reports about the Russia/TrumpJr meeting during the campaign. Donald Trump himself crafts the implausible first pushback, an asserted narrative later proven to be a complete lie. NYT told them they have a copy of the relevant email chain (*likely* provided by Kushner’s attorneys to save his hide and toss Don Jr under the bus). Don Jr releases the email chain, thereby providing the proof his father lied.

      • thom

        Becca, I’d totally tune into your show if you ever got one. You have a knack for organizing and providing context for all these chaotic newsflashes

        • You’re most kind.

          • Brian Burleson

            And you are a great follow on Twitter too! Thank you for all that you do to help keep us informed.

        • ByronK

          She’s like JMG’s own Maddow. Only more to the point. 😉

        • perversatile

          “To condense fact from the vapor of nuance”
          ‘Neal Stephenson ‘SnowCrash’

    • bkmn

      He and his entire family simply think the laws do not apply to them. Hopefully Mueller and NY AG Schneiderman will prove them wrong.

    • JCF
    • UrsusArctos

      He figures “What’s one more lie”.

  • netxtown

    I’m sorry – I know it’s somewhat shallow – – – but with the kinda money dude is knocking down, he could at least afford to get his nose straightened out….

    • ByronK

      But it also gives him some individuality. Like Owen Wilson (who I find strangely adorable).

  • Blake J Butler

    I was bored doing investigative journalism, but since i was looking at the Steel Magnolias cast, i never knew the actor Ronald Young that played Clairee’s brother the one that was the father to the Nancy Beth and Marshall (gay tract lighting).

    I never knew he went onto to have a career in politics and is currently a member of the Maryland state Senate as a democrat And voted for marriage equality in Maryland.

    • grada3784

      God, I am old. I read the “actor Ronald Young” as the “actor Roland Young” (Topper in the 1930’s movies).

    • TampaDink

      Interesting. I did not know. I do remember though that Clairee’s relatives, the Marmillion’s looked “like they were carved out of cream cheese”. And that Nancy Beth was the first Miss Merry Christmas to have her title stripped away after she’d been found in a motel room with a high ranking local official. “They were BOTH high. They’d been smoking everything but their shoes.”

  • Homo Erectus
    • j.martindale

      Perfect. No real remorse. Saving his own skin.

    • Karl Dubhe

      God said to David “have another brewskii, and shag that army.”

      • justme

        and to today’s Republican party he would say
        “have another brewskii, and get shagged by that army. .. I’ll never tell”

  • JohnJay
    • ByronK
      • ChrisInKansas

        I know it’s not the point, but this is my favorite Eurythmics song. 😊

        • That_Looks_Delicious

          Mine is “Paint A Rumor.”

          • porsupah

            Other than Sweet Dreams (including that wonderful video), I’m particularly partial to “Better to Have Lost in Love (Than Never to Have Loved At All)” – a sentiment which I must reluctantly agree with.

  • andrew

    Well said Mr. Flake, but how will your future actions align with your words.

    • Brian Burleson

      Your….

  • William

    I’ve seen Flake do interviews two days in a row. He is master at keeping a smile no matter how unpleasant the subject. It’s an excellent quality in a used car salesman.

    • Adam King

      A talent that’s common among sociopaths.

    • UrsusArctos

      Mormon. He’s used to peddling sociopathic BS.

  • Michael R

    This quote works against Trump and against those whose sole aim was to make sure Obama failed

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/be08ada56cfebdf6600bb5d20a36fa0f3d50b6304df9eebb3ea06d7086cec58e.jpg

    • justme

      the GOPT lost that just after Teddy was president.. And have never found it again

  • justmeeeee

    Jeff Flake is an ass…and has he not supported every Trump initiative to come before the Senate? Still, he is fuckable….

    • thom

      I don’t think he’s saying that Trump is wrong on the issues.
      But he’s an unstable manchild who will run this country into the ground

    • William

      Maybe ten years ago.

  • Michael R

    Where was Flake on health care this week ?

    • Hank

      Where he has always been!!! Looking to give Tax Breaks to the Rich and taking away Health Care from the People, of course!!!

    • grada3784

      Being a GOP Flake, as usual.

  • Al Petterson

    Read the second-to-last paragraph of the original article and tell me again that he’s seen anything remotely like “the light”. What he plans to “do about it” is utterly laughable. There’s no indication he will oppose any of the things he claims to be horrified by in any meaningful way.

    The entirety of his call to action:

    So, where should Republicans go from here? First, we shouldn’t hesitate to speak out if the president “plays to the base” in ways that damage the Republican Party’s ability to grow and speak to a larger audience. Second, Republicans need to take the long view when it comes to issues like free trade: Populist and protectionist policies might play well in the short term, but they handicap the country in the long term. Third, Republicans need to stand up for institutions and prerogatives, like the Senate filibuster, that have served us well for more than two centuries.

    Completely at odds with the rest of the article. It’s words and nothing else.

    • thom

      He’s not opposed to policy of Trump.
      But doesn’t think he’s capable of being President

      • I figure anything that represents a loss of personal loyalty between the GOP Congress and their President is a positive development.

        It’ll never be as much as I want, but it’s still way the fuck better than the lockstep “let’s give this inexperienced but brash new president a chance” narrative they were embracing just a few months ago.

        • Refugay

          Only when Trump is a political cost, not an asset, will they begin to abandon him. Once that tips-he’ll sink quickly.

          • The bow of the Trumptanic is approaching the waterline…

  • Adam King

    The emptiest of empty words.

  • Homo Erectus

    One way or another, I’m gonna lose ya’

    I’m gonna give you the slip

    A slip of the lip or another I’m gonna lose ya’

    I’m gonna trick ya’, I’ll trick ya’

    One way or another, I’m gonna lose ya’

    I’m gonna trick ya’, trick ya’, trick ya’, trick ya’

    One way or another, I’m gonna lose ya’

    I’m gonna give you the slip

  • Joe Smith

    Trump’s next tweet:

    “FLAKE NEWS!!! FLAKE NEWS!!! FLAKE NEWS!!!
    FLAKE NEWS!!!”

    • Todd20036

      I heard. Frosted Flakes come cinnamon flavored!!!

      • Karl Dubhe

        Oh? Where would someone find such things?

        Asking for a ‘friend’.

  • thom

    LOL at everyone thinking that questioning Trumps sanity or judgement or tempermant means they should suddenly abandon all their positions and caucus with the Dems.
    We will never be a country where everyone will align with one political party.
    No matter how much we want it.
    I’m glad Flake called out Trump. And will be just as glad to see a Dem take his spot.
    But, this is a good step to ridding us of a truely dangerous leader

  • The original leak of the email proving Don Jr (and other campaign members) took a meeting with Kremlin officials early in the campaign plausibly was sourced to Kushner and his attorneys.

    Now the proposition is today’s confirmation that Donald wrote Don Jr’s initial phony explanation also came from Kushner.

    https://twitter.com/MattBors/status/892172550142283777

    Reason? Kushner isn’t in any personal or legal jeopardy with this leak. But Donald and Don Jr very much are.

  • Professor Barnhardt
    • JT

      “minister of private parts”

      Heh. I’ll bet he loves being a hands on guy.

    • porsupah

      “And here comes his opponent in a district that backed Democrat Hillary Clinton over Republican Donald Trump in last year’s presidential election: a transgender woman who sings in a metal band, has a boyfriend and doesn’t make it a point to talk about any of it.

      “Traffic. Jobs. Schools, in that order,” Roem said about her platform and her issues. “And equality.””

      <3 As much as I want any Dem to succeed in their efforts next year, I'm especially hoping she manages to bring Marshall's career as government leech to an end.

  • That_Looks_Delicious

    Ah, the warm glow of the drumpfster fire. IT’S A GREAT DAY IN THE WHITE HOUSE!1!!

    https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/892170812651864065

    • JT

      Drumpf Junior: I only said what daddy told me to. I can’t be guilty because he told me to do it.

      • That_Looks_Delicious

        What the WH lawyers are panicked about, apparently, is that this could put Trump personally in legal jeapordy.

        But no problem. The GOP will just start another round of Benghazi hearings.

        • Hank

          E-MAILS!!!!! /s

      • Todd20036

        Yeah, that won’t impress the judges much

      • UrsusArctos

        Following orders, like a good German (Drumpf).

  • billbear1961
  • bkmn

    Saw that Robert Reich talked to a GOP friend of his (former Congressman) who said they think Trump is losing his marbles and is paranoid that his Cabinet is moving to use Art. 25 against him (which is not true, at present) but if he continues the erratic behavior they will end up using Art. 25 against him. They are very afraid about 2018 and 2020.

  • fuzzybits

    Blah,blah,blah,Obama. Blah,blah,blah,Obama.

  • Rebecca Gardner
    • That_Looks_Delicious

      Benghazi! Emails!

    • safari

      Is it obstruction or collusion yet?

      • JCF

        Yes!

  • Ninja0980

    https://twitter.com/mjs_DC/status/892147540136734720
    Thank you for saying what we all feel Mark.

  • Mark McGovern

    Senator Flake has a terrible record on LGBTIQ issues. I find his politics repulsive for the most part.

    That said, I find there is hope in this article. There are now 4 GOP Senators open about asserting their equality as a branch of government rather than simply acquiescing to the Executive. This is necessary to change things, regardless of Mr. Flake’s social and fiscal policies. We need to encourage this as much as possible in order to reduce the chances of some chaotic bloody power grab. I suspect Trump will be like a cornered badger as things worsen. He can yet inflict some substantive damage. He will pursue scorched earth options. The best way to shut him down is having enough GOP powers in opposition to the President before he wreaks more havoc.

    This is not an endorsement of Mr. Flake. It is like agreeing to put out a fire in a home two people claim ownership to in order to save the home, and argue about stewardship another day.

    I fully expect many may disagree, and so you should. It seems like an impossible situation. If only the VP were in any way palatable.

    • Ninja0980

      There is a sad backstory on Jeff Flake.
      He has a cousin that is gay and was dating the son of Matt Salmon Sr., a very anti- LGBT congressman.
      Bottom line, they dated for a couple of years but Kent (Jeff’s cousin) finally had to let Matt Jr. go, due to the fact Matt still couldn’t fully accept himself and was still trying to get the love of parents who will never give it.
      No pity for Jeff at all.

    • The sane thing to do. Not the satisfying thing to do. Why do we have to be the good ones? Sulk.

  • greenmanTN

    NOW you see it? You’re a bit fucking late with these incisive remarks, Jethro.

    “Oopsie-Daisy! Funny story, but after 20 years of partisan opposition, unmoored from policy but more concerned with partisanship, party over country, 8 years of covert (and overt) racism and homophobic political activity, it surprisingly turned out not to be a good thing!” (Ya think?!)

    Our bad! I call backsies!

    Fuck you.

  • kaydenpat

    Yet he probably always voted lockstep with Trump’s agenda. He voted to repeal the ACA after all.

  • DaddyRay

    Just saw this for the first time on Chris Hayes
    Awesome

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqCZzs7UXIo

    • Lazycrockett

      Great Stuff.

  • Henry Auvil

    Too little, too late, Senator SnowFlake.

  • That_Looks_Delicious
    • Carl

      I’ll pass on my turn.

      • Bad Tom

        Yeah. I’m good too.

  • jimbo65
  • bdsmjack

    Too late.

  • Lazycrockett

    Joy!!!!

    • DaddyRay

      Love Joy but I bet Rachel would love to be there for the breaking news

      • Lazycrockett

        She can always call in.

      • safari

        Where is Rachael?

        • Lazycrockett

          “A much deserved night off.”

          • safari

            I worry about her sometimes.

        • DaddyRay

          She probably pulled a muscle laughing this morning over Mooch

        • Natty Enquirer

          There is but one ‘a’ in Rachel, my dear.

    • another_steve

      Joy Reid is MSNBC’s golden treasure. Cable news does not get better than Joy Reid.

      I hope her rating numbers reflect that.

      • Lazycrockett

        and the thing is 2 years ago Joy was an entirely different persona.

        • Ninja0980

          Yup… and it hurt her and her show.
          Now that she can be herself, whole different story.

  • Ken M

    It should be called “How I spent my summer vacation.”

  • JCF

    Drumpf drafted Jr’s LYING statement (“it was about adoption”): OBSTRUCTION, Full Stop!

    • That_Looks_Delicious

      I saw the funniest joke about that. Goes like this:

      A lawyery, a spy and a money-launderer walk into a bar.
      The bartender says, “You guys must be here to talk about adoption.”

  • safari

    “Fake news” is like the boy crying “wolf”

    • Friday

      At shepherds when he’s stealing sheep. 🙂

  • DaddyRay

    Trump Tweet after Jr finally had to release the emails

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/885081181980590084

  • boobert

    A president that claims not to know about any meetings with Russians now accused of writing an explanation about it ! lol

  • jimbo65

    With his Altzheimers I’m surprised 45 was able to string together a letter covering for Jr.

    • DaddyRay

      Lies come naturally to Donald

      • JCF

        The Lying part of his brain will be the last to go.

        • Bad Tom

          It is the best developed part of his brain. He exercised it multiple times every day.

      • Natty Enquirer

        Sometimes he lies about as many as six impossible things before breakfast.

    • Bad Tom

      It was a stupid, stupid lie, against advice, which adds to the narrative of Trump’s obstruction of justice.

      Yeah, he was able to write a letter. A deeply damning letter.
      It wasn’t an achievement.

  • jimbo65

    Please hurry up Mueller. This madman is likely to start a war as the ultimate distraction to save his sorry ass.

    • safari

      I just hope it is slow enough to drag his family brand through the coals a few dozen times.

    • Ross

      All of Donnie’s problems would vanish in an instant if there was major terrorist attack in the US.

      He would be granted extraordinary powers because of the emergency.

      And his first steps would be to silence the media, and start rounding up his critics.

      We would suddenly be untouchable. Even Mueller would not be able to take him down.

      Because people are EASILY led if they are afraid.

      Bannon and Putin understand all this. And they are capable of orchestrating such an attack.

      THIS is my single biggest fear.

      • I’m not so sure. Given early missteps and expected incompetence, such an event could well be met with a military coup instead.

        • Galvestonian

          Don’t forget that Gen Kelly is a Marine – once a Marine – always a Marine – probably one of the most patriotic and honorable branches of the service – I believe that he’ll do what is good for the country and curb Trumphetta if at all possible and hopefully smack this blood sucking parasite that passes for POTUS into a condition that would render the orange nit and his minions into nothing more than a stain on the history of the country.

      • Friday

        I’m honestly not so sure there wouldn’t be a Praetorian solution ripped out of a color coded envelope if it came to that, honestly. I mean, honestly honestly. This kind of thing must have been keeping professionals up nights since Reagan started slipping about what country he was in and ‘Is the mike on’ when he ‘joked’ about full scale attacks against the USSR.

  • houstonray
    • Natty Enquirer

      Trumpzilla!

  • fuzzybits
    • Natty Enquirer

      But I wouldn’t resist a snog with that sexy beard.

    • AJ Drew

      great T! and a Spoonful of Sugar to boot!

  • DaddyRay

    New thread

  • AJ Drew

    Take the wins as they come, be prepared for future greater awfulness, but for now, a moment of Schadenfreude. (I bet Spicer is somewhere having a lil’ happy dance too.)

    https://media.giphy.com/media/zEndcYZYLmxz2/giphy.gif

  • Cuberly

    He’s saying a lot of purdy things but, prove it! Do something!

    https://twitter.com/mattmfm/status/892156656729108480

  • DreadPirateZed

    This article (as noted at the foot) is an excerpt from Flake’s upcoming book.
    Now, I’ve been re-watching The West Wing (I blame podcasts!), and so I am now convinced that every politician’s book signals a presidential run… I don’t actually think Flake is crazy enough to try it, but wouldn’t it be fun to watch?

  • Tempus Fuggit

    Nawwwww shit. Rilly?

  • Steverino

    What a Flake.

  • greenmanTN

    This didn’t happen on one day last November. It took a sustained effort, lasting for more than 30 years of demonizing, not just “liberals” but anyone who hold positions other than those of the religious right. It took gerrymandering in local elections, voter suppression, etc.

    (Call me paranoid (an aluminum foil beret would be nice), but I believe it is very possible that voter results were “hacked” and changed in some states.)

    In any case it’s a bit too late to start whining that the monster you created isn’t the monster you intended.

    • Friday

      It’s not paranoid to observe those simply prevented from voting. Actual factually. And there should never have been a removal of the paper trail for voting with these Diebold Cheney subsidiary machines, nor the removal of certain whole corners from cardboard ballot boxes in Rust Belt States when a recount was called for. (How was that supposed to have even happened, except for the cameras?)

      • greenmanTN

        To me the FIRST priority is that we have to have paper ballots everywhere, something without it we hsve nothing,

  • aagold76 .

    he could prove it by switching parties- if he can get Lisa and Susan to follow- that’s a Democratic Majority.

    • Ben in Oakland

      But he,d still vote Republican.

  • abqdan

    There is little we’d agree on in policy terms, and this is a man probably looking to his reelection chances in 2018. Even so, it is heartening to see a Republican willing to talk in these terms. We do have to restart the discussion across party lines; the two sides of the Senate have to work together if they are going to achieve a compromise on anything that works for the the American people. I’d like everything to just be Democratic policy, but that isn’t how our Republic is supposed to work.

  • David in Tucson

    Well, this still won’t make me vote for him.

  • edrex

    anyone can claim to have a conscience. your voting record says otherwise.

  • Hue-Man

    Senator Flake is on PBS Charlie Rose tonight. Here’s a teaser – full video should be available tomorrow.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1YHWuVS0rs

  • Yalma Cuder-Zicci

    So, why did we not read, “Collins, Murkowski, McCain, and Flake” last week?

    • canoebum

      He said “conservative principles”. As if there were such a thing. “Conservatives” will say or do anything, tell any lie, betray any citizen, just to keep power. They lack all principles. They are morally empty.

  • SDG

    Another, “um duh” moment.

  • Joe Maynard

    I’ll give Flake credit that, when I looked up where he was on birtherism, the first link that popped up was a TV interview from 2011 and he was clear and unambiguous in calling it nonsense.

    So the guy has at least heard of the country called reality, though on abundant other evidence he appears to be an occasional tourist there, not a citizen.

    But here’s the acid test to apply to his Politico op-ed. Senator Flake, say this and make me believe you mean it:

    “Neil Gorsuch should not be Justice Gorsuch. The Republicans in the Senate owe President Obama and Judge Garland an apology. We will atone for this by cloning Justice Sotomayor for the next Supreme Court vacancy.”

    You manage to choke that out loud enough so they can hear it in Arizona, and I’ll give you props.
    Until then you’re just a right-wing concern troll with a book to hawk.

  • Oh, you just noticed?

  • TKW

    Wow! A voice of clarity! A tad late, but still!

  • Gianni

    “Who could blame the people who felt abandoned and ignored by the major
    parties for reaching in despair for a candidate who offered
    oversimplified answers to infinitely complex questions and managed to
    entertain them in the process?” I have no problem blaming them for being so stupid as to be hoodwinked by an obvious charlatan. a circus ringmaster, a liar who then denies he ever said a lie.

    • canoebum

      It’s damned depressing knowing I share a country with that many idiots.

    • BillysWilly

      I actually have friends, a gay couple, who refuse to believe anything is wrong. They say he’s just shaking things up a bit. Seriously! It’s just maddening.

      • Gianni

        Apparently they really like Donnie. When that’s the case, he can do no wrong.

  • Do Something Nice

    Great read. Thanks for posting, Joe!

  • Texndoc

    Oh, and BTW, didn’t ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, FoxNews, MSNBC cover him like he was a ‘rock star’?

  • Boreal
  • AmeriCanadian

    Guillotine! Traitor! I fully expect the Repubes to throw him out of their club.

  • joe ho

    And he voted Yes on the Skinny Bill.

    But now he’s afraid of losing his seat. So he’s doing the politically slimy thing of cynically asking for forgiveness.

  • madknits

    If Flake had any decency, he’d fall on his sword.

  • Bj Lincoln

    I read the whole thing yesterday. Wow. It’s about time someone on their side said this. There are people in my neighborhood who still have Drumpf signs in their yard. How can they still support this idiot?!

    • Ben in Oakland

      No matter how bad my balls might smell, my jockstrap simply doesn’t care, but cradles them lovingly.

      Does that answer your question?

    • BillysWilly

      There used to be a Ginormous (as in billboard size) tRump sign built with framing and mouldings in the front yard of a house on Rt 1 in Sussex County Delaware. Once the Russia stuff began looking more realistic and truthfiul, the guy actually painted over it!

  • joe ho

    Except that Flake has voted 96% for Trump’s position.

    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/congress-trump-score/jeff-flake/

    He’s just trembling now he’s going to lose his seat.

  • This might be more convincing if he’d voted against Trumpcare. An op-ed. Well now he can join Lindsey Graham in the tough talk but wimpy acts club.

  • Beagle

    Nice words. But he who talketh by the mile, and doeth by the inch, should be kicketh by the foot.

  • Jacob

    Still an ahole.

  • joe ho

    He didn’t mention anything about his role in stealing the Garland nomination.

  • #soMuchWhining

  • Ben in Oakland

    We, of the party of Leopards Eat Peoples’ Faces, are very shocked… shocked, I tell you!….that we have leopards that are eating peoples faces. *reaches up and pull the remains of what looks like a nose out from between his large, sharp, teeth*

    We certainly didn’t intend, err plan for that information to be so obvious, err, revealed.

  • Tom

    Yeah that’s nice Senator…WHAT’CHA GONNA DO ABOUT IT??!!

  • Galvestonian

    Hell, millions of us knew that already and quite a lot of those in the know are Republicans but for a Rethug politician to actually admit it is kind of sweet.

  • Richard

    “Who could blame the people who felt abandoned and ignored by the major parties for reaching in despair ” ? Really Flake ? Is Flake talking about all those bigots, racists, xenophobes that voted for the exceedingly unqualified idiot? Yes, they are ALL TO BLAME for the daily destruction of our democracy, and should be blamed when we start losing blood and treasure in a war with NK because the idiot they voted for knows nothing about diplomacy and is desperate to deflect from the current criminal investigations into his regime.

  • cleos_mom

    Who could blame the people who felt abandoned and ignored by the major
    parties for reaching in despair for a candidate who offered oversimplified answers to infinitely complex questions and managed to entertain them in the process?

    We need to keep in mind that the people Flake was referring to were close to 100% white. Apparently no other groups feel “abandoned and ignored”.

    Of course, we have been asked over the past 8 months or so to pretend to believe working class white people are the one group who are “never listened to.” WTF. they’re the only group with an average annual income under 7 figures that is listened to.